The Great Kobe Bryant

[babysham]

As you'd imagine, there was some interesting Kobe chatter in the desert in the wake of Game 7.

One story circulating among the Suns is that Bryant strongly encouraged teammates not to linger on the floor after the final buzzer for post-series handshakes. Suns ex Jim Jackson was one of the few Lakers who did stick around to congratulate his ex-teammates, as well as the L.A. coaches.

"I got the handshake I wanted," said Suns forward Tim Thomas, referring to Lakers coach Phil Jackson, whom Thomas called "a legend."

• Trivia question: Which player from the Lakers and Suns, before Saturday night, had played in the most Game 7s?

Surprising answer: It's the Suns' Raja Bell, who returned from a Game 6 suspension to play in his fourth career Game 7, one more than Bryant or Nash. Bell is now 4-0 in those games.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailydime?page=dailydime-060508

It's one thing not to shake hands with the winning team, but to discourage the rest of your team from shaking their hands as well? I mean really...what's wrong with this guy?

[gilboman]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailydime?page=dailydime-060508

It's one thing not to shake hands with the winning team, but to discourage the rest of your team from shaking their hands as well? I mean really...what's wrong with this guy?

one story circulating....there are many stories circulating, such as jesus is black, he is chinese named jesus hong.. :lol: :lol:

only thign wrong is he is the undisputed best player in abilities in the NBA right now and that causes alot of jealousy and hatred. when you are so good, people get jealous and make up reasons to make themselves feel better for being inferior.

[Rometiklan]

I have no idea if this story is true or not, but in the end, Kobe's still a jerk...and a rapist.

[babysham]

only thign wrong is he is the undisputed best player in abilities in the NBA right now and that causes alot of jealousy and hatred. when you are so good, people get jealous and make up reasons to make themselves feel better for being inferior.

Undisputed? :lol:

Like I've said in other threads. Kobe has game, but he just doesn't have that impact that players like Duncan, Shaq, Magic, Jordan, etc. have....that impact to take their team to the next level. He's just another T-Mac. Amazing talent, but just can't win when it counts.

It's what seperates the boys from the men.

[bluetroll]

I have no idea if this story is true or not, but in the end, Kobe's still a jerk...and a rapist.

hahahahahaha... well said.

[akt921]

one story circulating....there are many stories circulating, such as jesus is black, he is chinese named jesus hong.. :lol: :lol:

only thign wrong is he is the undisputed best player in abilities in the NBA right now and that causes alot of jealousy and hatred. when you are so good, people get jealous and make up reasons to make themselves feel better for being inferior.
But MVP is our very own Steve Nash! Where's Kobe? How good a player is if he can only score points and not able to win games? Think about that.

[gei]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailydime?page=dailydime-060508

It's one thing not to shake hands with the winning team, but to discourage the rest of your team from shaking their hands as well? I mean really...what's wrong with this guy?

He was outplayed... plain and simple. Probably didn't want to embarass himself on the court any longer than he already had to.

[Anessa]

Nash summed up Kobe Bryant by saying: "I don't know what to expect of him. Sometimes it's a little strange."

[Bargain_Junkie]

Kobe is an arrogant prick rapist who should be in jail. Kobe has no class at all


Kobe should watch Nash and take a few tips on how to be a team player and on how to be classy on and off the court and on how to put your money to good use.

[spike-spiegel]

Nash summed up Kobe Bryant by saying: "I don't know what to expect of him. Sometimes it's a little strange."

I like Nash's quotes. He's humble and insightful and he does mince words. Doesn't shy away from what should be said.

[Hanniganite]

Yay, more rapist bashing:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=bayless/060508&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab4pos1

[gei]

Excellent article. Anyone who still thinks Kobe is better than Nash should definitely read it.

[killbillvol1]

Kobe's a total showoff with no integrity.

Dude totally quit in the second half, they're gonna come out with the KB8 White Towel jersey anytime soon.

[babysham]

Did you guys hear about how Kobe text messaged Charles Barkley about "20 times" after Barkley's comments about Kobe's performance in game 7.

20 times???

:lol:

[ji2o0k]

Did you guys hear about how Kobe text messaged Charles Barkley about "20 times" after Barkley's comments about Kobe's performance in game 7.

20 times???

:lol:


hahah no........

so please elaborate.....I missed it, what did Sir Charles say about spoiled-brat Kobe ?

And what was Kobe's response ?

[babysham]

I don't know all the details but they were talking about it on the TNT show last night after the Clippers/Suns game.

After Game 7 of the Suns/Lakers series, Barkley said that Kobe is "selfish" and gave up on the team in the 2nd half. Supposedly, Kobe wasn't too happy about that and text messaged Barkley over 20 times, swearing and voicing his displeasure. LOL.

[rc51]

only thign wrong is he is the undisputed best player in abilities in the NBA right now and that causes alot of jealousy and hatred. when you are so good, people get jealous and make up reasons to make themselves feel better for being inferior.

It's got nothing to do with his 'skills'...but more so the fact that he's a complete 'idiot'. MJ, Bird, Magic, Wilt, Dr. J, and the list goes on..were all great players in their time..and I don't think they had the same stigma attached to them as does Bryant.

At a younger age, Lebron James seems to be much more polished and mature than Bryant will ever be and eventually James will take over in the 'skills' dept. as well.

[ji2o0k]

hahaha poor little Kobe........doesn't like getting "raped" on the air by Sir Charles.

Have some class and "be a man" Kobe............tip your hat off to Nash and the Suns since they thoroughly spanked you in Game 7.

[gilboman]

Kobe is an arrogant prick rapist who should be in jail. Kobe has no class at all


Kobe should watch Nash and take a few tips on how to be a team player and on how to be classy on and off the court and on how to put your money to good use.

this is pro sports..not the best humanitarian league..... i never once said kobe was classy or what not. just that he is the best player int he league in skills. and all the writers agree with that, even the bashers.

[gilboman]

Excellent article. Anyone who still thinks Kobe is better than Nash should definitely read it.

ya...it says lebron and kobe are way way way better than nash is what the article says.

the article agrees kobe's a better shooter than even MJ and way better than lebron. kobe's D puts lebron to shame and is way more graceful while lebron is like a robot.

so the article is great.

[bluetroll]

ya...it says lebron and kobe are way way way better than nash is what the article says.

the article agrees kobe's a better shooter than even MJ and way better than lebron. kobe's D puts lebron to shame and is way more graceful while lebron is like a robot.

so the article is great.

MJ made players around him better... MJ helped Scottie into who he was... Nash makes players around him better... I agree Kobe is probably the one of the best players in the NBA, but he lacks in leadership skills... that is what separates players and champions.

[shaolinmonk]

MJ made players around him better... MJ helped Scottie into who he was... Nash makes players around him better... I agree Kobe is probably the one of the best players in the NBA, but he lacks in leadership skills... that is what separates players and champions.

Kobe has skills but likes to imitate mike james.. :cheesygri

[ElChico]

Oooo a Kobe hate thread.....I want in on this...

He's a ball hog, If he wasn't so worried about looking flashy and padding his stats maybe the Rapers...um er Lakers could win more games.

http://lakerssuck22.tripod.com/00Kobe_rapers.jpg

[findingnemoscar]

Hahaha, here's the funny thing. Y'all know that if Toronto were to miraculously land Kobe or anything close to a Kobe, you'd embrace him with arms wide open. Especially when he scores 81 points for you and NOT against you. :lol:

[shaolinmonk]

Hahaha, here's the funny thing. Y'all know that if Toronto were to miraculously land Kobe or anything close to a Kobe, you'd embrace him with arms wide open. Especially when he scores 81 points for you and NOT against you. :lol:

dude if kobe played like he did in the first 4 games against phoneix... i think i'd warm up to him...

[findingnemoscar]

I saw this on CNNSi.com but the quote is from a different news source:

Kobe Bryant, as he dejectedly walked from the locker room to a post-game media conference following the Lakers' Game 7 loss to the Suns, was approached by a woman who said, "You look like someone who could use a hug.'' The woman? Raja Bell's mother.
-- Racine Journal Times

Ooooouch. Can someone say "OWNED!" :lol:

[Rometiklan]

:arrowu: HahA!! I don't know if she should be offering a hug to a rapist. But a classic moment, nonetheless.

[gilboman]

I saw this on CNNSi.com but the quote is from a different news source:

Kobe Bryant, as he dejectedly walked from the locker room to a post-game media conference following the Lakers' Game 7 loss to the Suns, was approached by a woman who said, "You look like someone who could use a hug.'' The woman? Raja Bell's mother.
-- Racine Journal Times

Ooooouch. Can someone say "OWNED!" :lol:

why? raja bell is a nobody and never will be and will never make 10% of what kobe makes. this is the highlight of her son's life/career :lol: :lol:

[Rometiklan]

why? raja bell is a nobody and never will be and will never make 10% of what kobe makes. this is the highlight of her son's life/career :lol: :lol:

True...Bell won't ever make the same kind of money Bryant makes, but Bryant is still a rapist and that makes him lower than pondscum no matter how much money he has, and no amount of money can change that. Bryant's got talent, there's no denying that, which makes it pretty easy for people to forgive what he did.

[lkn4deals]

Kobe has skills but likes to imitate mike james.. :cheesygri



ahahahhaaha

[Hanniganite]

why? raja bell is a nobody and never will be and will never make 10% of what kobe makes. this is the highlight of her son's life/career :lol: :lol:

Doesn't change the fact that if this did indeed happen, the rapist got slapped in the face by his own juvenile comments.

And as for findingnemoscar, like hell I'd embrace him.

[gilboman]

ahahahhaaha

yup... kobe has skills ...in fact all agree he is most talented in the NBA today even from the haters at the major sports publishers.

[gilboman]

True...Bell won't ever make the same kind of money Bryant makes, but Bryant is still a rapist and that makes him lower than pondscum no matter how much money he has, and no amount of money can change that. Bryant's got talent, there's no denying that, which makes it pretty easy for people to forgive what he did.

how is he a rapist? he is no more of a rapist than you are one or steve nash. or maybe you are one with a criminal record. :lol:

[lkn4deals]

yup... kobe has skills ...in fact all agree he is most talented in the NBA today even from the haters at the major sports publishers.


i don't disagree; he's the guy I want taking the shot at the end of the game...BUT he is certainly NOT the guy I would choose to build around..he has not consistently shown that he can make his teammates better...

[babysham]

why? raja bell is a nobody and never will be and will never make 10% of what kobe makes. this is the highlight of her son's life/career :lol: :lol:

Raja Bell has bigger fish to fry now.

:lol:

[babysham]

Kobe made the cover of the new Mag Magazine....



http://www.dccomics.com/media/covers/5514_450x600.jpg

[gei]

i don't disagree; he's the guy I want taking the shot at the end of the game...BUT he is certainly NOT the guy I would choose to build around..he has not consistently shown that he can make his teammates better...

Depends on what you define as skills.

Like I said before, if you took Kobe off the current Laker team, and put Nash in his place.. I think the team with Nash would do better (and I'm sure most people would agree... that's precisely why nash is the MVP). So I think that shows Nash has more "skills".

[ElChico]

how is he a rapist? he is no more of a rapist than you are one or steve nash. or maybe you are one with a criminal record. :lol:

He was accused of Rape and is an Admitted Adulterer. Steve Nash and Myself have never been charged with rape or adultery. Thus Kobe is more of a Rapist.

[Rometiklan]

how is he a rapist? he is no more of a rapist than you are one or steve nash. or maybe you are one with a criminal record. :lol:

You Kobe's lawyer? You have to be a good one to get Kobe out of serving jail time for raping that woman.

[gilboman]

He was accused of Rape and is an Admitted Adulterer. Steve Nash and Myself have never been charged with rape or adultery. Thus Kobe is more of a Rapist.
i accuse you of rape now...there you are just as much a rapist.

[gilboman]

You Kobe's lawyer? You have to be a good one to get Kobe out of serving jail time for raping that woman.
the same woman w ho had sex with two different guys on same day after she was raped :lol:

[gilboman]

Depends on what you define as skills.

Like I said before, if you took Kobe off the current Laker team, and put Nash in his place.. I think the team with Nash would do better (and I'm sure most people would agree... that's precisely why nash is the MVP). So I think that shows Nash has more "skills".

no... nash is a PG and its his main priority to handle and distribute the ball. but in terms of all around abilities be it scoring, ball handling, athleticism ,defence, rebounding, penetrating, breaking down defence etc... nash doesnt come close.

[ElChico]

i accuse you of rape now...there you are just as much a rapist.

There's no proof of your case.

A. We never had Sex
B. You're not beat up like Kobe's victim

[shaolinmonk]

Before

no... nash is a PG and its his main priority to handle and distribute the ball. but in terms of all around abilities be it scoring, ball handling, passing ,defence etc... nash doesnt come close..

After

no... nash is a PG and its his main priority to handle and distribute the ball. but in terms of all around abilities be it scoring, ball handling, athleticism ,defence, rebounding, penetrating, breaking down defence etc... nash doesnt come close.

Nice Save lol...

[ElChico]

the same woman w ho had sex with two different guys on same day after she was raped :lol:

So are you saying it's okay to rape women that had sex earlier in the day?

Well it's not, and this kind of stuff is not allowed in court. Besides, Kobe's the Adulterer. He's not a good person.

[babysham]

no... nash is a PG and its his main priority to handle and distribute the ball. but in terms of all around abilities be it scoring, ball handling, athleticism ,defence, rebounding, penetrating, breaking down defence etc... nash doesnt come close.

Looking at the 2005-06 year:

Scoring
Kobe averaged 35.4 points on 45% shooting
Nash averaged 18.8 points on 51% shooting

Although Kobe scores more, he also took twice as much shots as Nash, but was much less efficient.

Verdict: Tie


Rebounding:
Kobe averaged 5.3 rebounds per game this year
Nash averaged 4.2 reboiunds per game this year

Verdict: Tie

Kobe is 3 inches taller, jumps higher, has a longer wingspand, but is only getting 1 more rebound per game than Nash? That's pathetic.



Ball Handling:

Advantage: Nash

This one is self-explanatory.


Athleticism:

Advantage: Kobe

Not even close. LOL.


Defence:

Advantage: Kobe

Kobe is a much better on the ball defender than Nash. However Nash has shown signs of improvement.


Penetrating

Advantage: Nash

Self-explanatory.


Breaking down defences

Both do this well. However, the difference is Nash can break down a defense and take a high percentage shot or find the open man for an easy basket. Kobe breaks down a defence and jacks it up.

Advantage: Nash


Free Throw Shooting

Nash is the best free throw shooter in the NBA, but Kobe gets to the line alot more.

Verdict: Tie


Team Play

The Suns have a similar cast as the Lakers, yet managed to have a better record, win their division, and also managed to come back from a 3-1 deficit in the playoffs to beat the Lakers.

Nash also makes the players around him better. Kobe doesn't.

Advantage: Nash


MVP Awards:

Nash: 2
Kobe: 0

:lol:

So according to my count...Nash wins 5-2.

Nash > Kobe.

[Hanniganite]

More fun rapist bashing :lol: :
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2006/news/story?id=2438021

[thug-life]

kobe bryant is a hog only thing the team made it to the play offs was because he hogged it and did everything by him self. i know they have no one on the lakers that is good but he should atleast give them chances so they can improve n sh*t for next year you no what i mean? its like the maple leafs they got bad players but like sundin and sh*t passes to them

[ElChico]

More fun rapist bashing :lol: :
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2006/news/story?id=2438021


I enjoyed the Canadian Wit at the end

Poor David Blaine. He spends a week in a water-filled bubble only to have Kobe come along and pull the greatest disappearing act of all time. What a shame.
-- Neil L., Burns Lake, British Columbia

[ryan123]

So are you saying it's okay to rape women that had sex earlier in the day?

Well it's not, and this kind of stuff is not allowed in court. Besides, Kobe's the Adulterer. He's not a good person.
im sorry but almost 80%+ NBA players are adulterers... I guess we should only judge a baksetball player by their ability to play baksetball instead of thier personal lives.

[ElChico]

im sorry but almost 80%+ NBA players are adulterers... I guess we should only judge a baksetball player by their ability to play baksetball instead of thier personal lives.

I don't know where you got the 80%+ from. But that shouldn't be an excuse. If 80% of the NBA raped girls in Colorado that doesn't make it right either.

[coomar]

True...Bell won't ever make the same kind of money Bryant makes, but Bryant is still a rapist and that makes him lower than pondscum no matter how much money he has, and no amount of money can change that. Bryant's got talent, there's no denying that, which makes it pretty easy for people to forgive what he did.

you would think so wouldn't you but I remember a study where women barely preferred (and this was almost forced out of them) a five foot man to a sex offender.

The man is a great, great ball player but he doesn't have leadership skills and since no one else on his team is allowed to show him up, he's pretty much screwed

but this rapist thing is getting old, give it up

[coomar]

and are we talking about the commonly accepted feminist version of rape where a girl gets drunk of her own accord, gets picked up by a guy goes back to his place and in the morning feels that he raped her (even though she consented the whole night)

[Sajjad]

Looking at the 2005-06 year:

Scoring
Kobe averaged 35.4 points on 45% shooting
Nash averaged 18.8 points on 51% shooting

Although Kobe scores more, he also took twice as much shots as Nash, but was much less efficient.

Verdict: Tie


Rebounding:
Kobe averaged 5.3 rebounds per game this year
Nash averaged 4.2 reboiunds per game this year

Verdict: Tie

Kobe is 3 inches taller, jumps higher, has a longer wingspand, but is only getting 1 more rebound per game than Nash? That's pathetic.



Ball Handling:

Advantage: Nash

This one is self-explanatory.


Athleticism:

Advantage: Kobe

Not even close. LOL.


Defence:

Advantage: Kobe

Kobe is a much better on the ball defender than Nash. However Nash has shown signs of improvement.


Penetrating

Advantage: Nash

Self-explanatory.


Breaking down defences

Both do this well. However, the difference is Nash can break down a defense and take a high percentage shot or find the open man for an easy basket. Kobe breaks down a defence and jacks it up.

Advantage: Nash


Free Throw Shooting

Nash is the best free throw shooter in the NBA, but Kobe gets to the line alot more.

Verdict: Tie


Team Play

The Suns have a similar cast as the Lakers, yet managed to have a better record, win their division, and also managed to come back from a 3-1 deficit in the playoffs to beat the Lakers.

Nash also makes the players around him better. Kobe doesn't.

Advantage: Nash


MVP Awards:

Nash: 2
Kobe: 0

:lol:

So according to my count...Nash wins 5-2.

Nash > Kobe.


That doesn't mean a thing...it's the MOST VALUABLE PLAYER ... NOT THE MOST STATISTICALLY BEST PLAYER, please comission for a MSBP if you insist. Who is more valuable to their franchise...I think of it this way:
PHX - NASH vs LAL - KOBE vs DAL - Dirk vs DET - Chauncey etc etc
IMO it is clearly evident that the DAL-DIRK and CLE-LBJ is the greatest (in terms of effect on team w/o the player). However, I somewhat see of a reason of PHX - Nash being a great difference, LAL - Kobe even more compared to Nash.

[Rometiklan]

but this rapist thing is getting old, give it up

I did give it up. However, you should take your own good advice because in your very next post, you bring up the rape again.

[Hanniganite]

Some more rapist bashing (sorta) :cheesygri
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=cnnsi-youcanwinforlos&prov=cnnsi&type=lgns

[babysham]

That doesn't mean a thing...it's the MOST VALUABLE PLAYER ... NOT THE MOST STATISTICALLY BEST PLAYER, please comission for a MSBP if you insist. Who is more valuable to their franchise...I think of it this way:
PHX - NASH vs LAL - KOBE vs DAL - Dirk vs DET - Chauncey etc etc
IMO it is clearly evident that the DAL-DIRK and CLE-LBJ is the greatest (in terms of effect on team w/o the player). However, I somewhat see of a reason of PHX - Nash being a great difference, LAL - Kobe even more compared to Nash.

Uhh...what are you talking about?

[mingcourt]

That doesn't mean a thing...it's the MOST VALUABLE PLAYER ... NOT THE MOST STATISTICALLY BEST PLAYER, please comission for a MSBP if you insist. Who is more valuable to their franchise...I think of it this way:
PHX - NASH vs LAL - KOBE vs DAL - Dirk vs DET - Chauncey etc etc
IMO it is clearly evident that the DAL-DIRK and CLE-LBJ is the greatest (in terms of effect on team w/o the player). However, I somewhat see of a reason of PHX - Nash being a great difference, LAL - Kobe even more compared to Nash.

Using the criteria of "who is more valuable to their franchise" is a load of crap.

Look at Chris Bosh, without him, Raps would prob be 0-82... does that make him mvp?

Hell no.

[Sajjad]

Using the criteria of "who is more valuable to their franchise" is a load of crap.

Look at Chris Bosh, without him, Raps would prob be 0-82... does that make him mvp?

Hell no.

Hah, you wish they'd be 0-82, they still have James, Villy and Peterson.
WHO is more valuable is crap ... I wonder what they name of the tropy/acheivement is. Most Valuable Player, keyword valuable.
You and Mr. Babysham start a petition and force the NBA to create the MSBP (most statistically best player).

[lkn4deals]

Looking at the 2005-06 year:


Penetrating

Advantage: Nash

Self-explanatory.




You sure about this one? :lol:

[Sajjad]

You sure about this one? :lol:

I know considering, Kobe got in with great force... :cheesygri

[shaolinmonk]

I know considering, Kobe got in with great force... :cheesygri

you mean shaq pentrated kobe with great force and made him his biaaaaatch!

[babysham]

Hah, you wish they'd be 0-82, they still have James, Villy and Peterson.
WHO is more valuable is crap ... I wonder what they name of the tropy/acheivement is. Most Valuable Player, keyword valuable.
You and Mr. Babysham start a petition and force the NBA to create the MSBP (most statistically best player).


Uhhh....I still have no idea what you are talking about.

Steve Nash won the MVP this year.

:confused:

[Sajjad]

Uhhh....I still have no idea what you are talking about.

Steve Nash won the MVP this year.

:confused:

He's saying that I'm wrong by basing the MOST VALUABLE PLAYER
on how valuable they are to their franchise.