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beatbox
May 3rd, 2006, 06:22 PM
hey
so i finsihed building the computer and it posted fine and i pressed F2 to check the cpu temp and its running at 62-63C and i havent even left the computer on for 2 min

is there something i did wrong.....im using the stock fan and heatsink that came with the Pentium D820 processor

and have a big fan at the back and a smaller one in front of the hard drive

also this temp is when the side panal is open

and no OS is installed yet

thanks

Oversized Rooster
May 3rd, 2006, 06:28 PM
That's well within operating range. With the stock heatsink, my 830 reached over 80 degrees.

Welcome to the world of baseboard heater substitute (aka Smithfield).

beatbox
May 3rd, 2006, 06:36 PM
ok now i was monitoring it and when it hit 64 and a few seconds later my computer just turned off....
and i checked some webpages and it says the max temp loading on the 820 is 63-65C

its the third post for the below link
http://hardware.mcse.ms/archive23-2006-1-273315.html

http://www.heatsink-guide.com/content.php?content=maxtemp.shtml

Oversized Rooster
May 3rd, 2006, 06:41 PM
That stuff is bull.

Mine was running inside a cramped Sonata 2 case at over 80 degrees.

I of course use an aftermarket cooler now. Even with the Zalman 9500 (one of the very best air coolers), I idle at 50 and load at around 60-65.

Mine's an 830, which has a higher thermal rating though.

beatbox
May 3rd, 2006, 07:38 PM
so then why does it just shut off then?

if the temp are like this for most dual core then why doesnt intel do something about this?

EDIT: I read a few guides on installing the heatsink/fan and all of them were "make sure you remove any protective cover on the thermal compound before installation"

but when i check under mine there was no protective covering just a gray coloured thermal paste

but now im in doubt that if i checked properlly....... :| :(

Cafe_333
May 3rd, 2006, 07:53 PM
check your motherboard's bios settings. it could be the safety shutoff feature that's enabled.

beatbox
May 3rd, 2006, 07:56 PM
if its a safety method doesnt that mean i shouldnt tamper with it.....i dont want to end up frying my cpu

xwar
May 3rd, 2006, 08:12 PM
check your motherboard's bios settings. it could be the safety shutoff feature that's enabled.

Agreed, turn it off .. or get a better cooler.

beatbox
May 3rd, 2006, 08:19 PM
^^

if its a safety method doesnt that mean i shouldnt tamper with it.....i dont want to end up frying my cpu

Kasakato
May 3rd, 2006, 08:57 PM
65* is normal. Im at 80* too with no problems.

beatbox
May 3rd, 2006, 09:05 PM
65 is normal :-0

im running at 50 or so on a pentium 4 2.9GHZ

i know thats a dual core but 65 is a lot especially if i just turned on the computer and it hasnt even been like 2 min and plus the fan speed gets faster and faster

oh i took out the fan/heatsink to see the compund on the cpu and all it is covering is
http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/3607/cpu5lx.jpg



but maybe a little more around the sides but should't it cover the entire area of the cpu??

thanks

Cafe_333
May 3rd, 2006, 09:06 PM
if its a safety method doesnt that mean i shouldnt tamper with it.....i dont want to end up frying my cpuIt's not technically possible to fry the cpu through normal operation. Pentium4 mobos support cpu throttling and have sensors so that if your cpu is close to thermal death, it will throttle the cpu speed down. Heck it'll even run without an HSF. Think of the bios setting as just an extra safety feature or backup. Either way, it's perfectly fine to disable it. As an above poster suggested, get a better cpu cooler if you are worried about the high temps.

beatbox
May 3rd, 2006, 09:14 PM
no what i want to clear up something, is it something i have neglected that is causing this over heating or its a fact that the 820D goes to 65C within 2 minutes

and in terms of cooling my system temperature is 37-40 with the side panal open, so how do i upgrade my cpu cooling im not failimalr with this whole thermal paste and cleaning of the residue with alcohol and scrape it off with a credit card

Oversized Rooster
May 3rd, 2006, 09:21 PM
Get a Zalman 9500. It "cures" the heat problem with dual cores. But even so, you'll still see much higher temperatures than on any other processor.

The Smithfield generation is one of the hottest processor lines ever made. Your CPU is actually two Prescott cores side by side. And we all know how much hotter Prescotts were compared Northwoods.

beatbox
May 3rd, 2006, 09:39 PM
if i contact intel and tell them that your processor is causing to go that high
and its going as high as your maximum specified temeraturs with you stock cooling will they do something

heres the reference to the max temp, its at the very bottom in table form

http://www.intel.com/cd/channel/reseller/asmo-na/eng/216412.htm

Oversized Rooster
May 3rd, 2006, 09:41 PM
if i contact intel and tell them that your processor is causing to go that high
and its going as high as your maximum specified temeraturs with you stock cooling will they do something

heres the reference to the max temp, its at the very bottom in table form

http://www.intel.com/cd/channel/reseller/asmo-na/eng/216412.htm

I've seen that chart before. It's BS. It's impossible to achieve those temperatures unless you run it in a case with 10 fans at 10000rpm each.

Even with no overclocking, and my Zalman 9500, my 830 idles at around 50 and loads around 60-65. That's very close to their max. And this is with one of the best air coolers out there, complete with AS5 and all.

Just think what would happen to my processor with the stock cooler!

beatbox
May 3rd, 2006, 09:49 PM
so you guys think 65 is safe....ill check it for 5 min to see if it comes to a constant temp

and just for clarifacation im checking this temperature from the BIOS hardware monitor option...if that makes a diffrece, there is still no os or anything
thanks

hp
May 3rd, 2006, 10:02 PM
if i contact intel and tell them that your processor is causing to go that high
and its going as high as your maximum specified temeraturs with you stock cooling will they do something

heres the reference to the max temp, its at the very bottom in table form

http://www.intel.com/cd/channel/reseller/asmo-na/eng/216412.htm

The chart states taht 65 is the max case temperature. not sure what this means.

We use a D820 at work as a file server, the temperatures on the CPU is usually at 63 to 64 degrees. Maybe we should get a better HSF. hmm.

hp

beatbox
May 3rd, 2006, 10:12 PM
The chart states taht 65 is the max case temperature. not sure what this means.

We use a D820 at work as a file server, the temperatures on the CPU is usually at 63 to 64 degrees. Maybe we should get a better HSF. hmm.

hp

is that when it starts up or is this during mid-day?

hp
May 3rd, 2006, 10:18 PM
never did a check on cold boot, but this is after the computer has been running for several days, around 63 degree.

We use Intel D945 mobo with a ThermalTake Sprano case, pretty quiet. What components are you using?

beatbox
May 3rd, 2006, 10:46 PM
same intel 945PSN
intel D820
and a cooler master centurion with a 380W PSU

is that 380W PSU ok.... might be a silly question but would upgrading my PSu decrese my temperatures?

rchong
May 3rd, 2006, 10:49 PM
same intel 945PSN
intel D820
and a cooler master centurion with a 380W PSU

is that 380W PSU ok.... might be a silly question but would upgrading my PSu decrese my temperatures?


No it won't. Make sure you have an exaust fan at the back. There should have been some sort of tape protecting the thermal pad on the heatsink. Is your heatsink fully in place? You could try another brand of thermal paste like Arctic Silver 5. When you removed the heatsink to have a look, it may have affected the ability to transfer heat as well.