Best Weight Gainer Powder

[Bargain_Junkie]

I'm just wondering what is the best weight gainer powder on the market right now? I heard it's either Muscle Juice or Mammoth, is that true?

Also what would happen if someone took weight gainer but didn't work out? I tend to miss a few workout days here and there because of work.

[poedua]

I'm just wondering what is the best weight gainer powder on the market right now? I heard it's either Muscle Juice or Mammoth, is that true?

Also what would happen if someone took weight gainer but didn't work out? I tend to miss a few workout days here and there because of work.

Just a thought , but instead of spending money on supplements to gain weight, why not just eat more - i.e add 20% to your daily calories ?

By the way, how much do you weigh now ( and height ? ) and how many pounds do you want to gain ?

Also, you asked " what would happen if someone took weight gainer but didn't work out ".......are you under the assumption these supplements only work if you " work out " ? Not quite sure of what relationship you think there is bewteen supplementation and " working out " when it comes to gaining weight - are you referring to carbs or protein ? Perhaps you could elaborate.

[krocket]

Weight gainers are just sugar loaded carbs. Avoid them like the plague.

Buy fish oil, creatine, and protein along with ramping up your caloric intake. That's the essential four right there for lean muscle mass gain. I learned this all in 1/2 a day from the "scrawny to brawny" flash classes (5 day crash course) found in my thread just a few notches below this one.

[poedua]

Weight gainers are just sugar loaded carbs. Avoid them like the plague.

Buy fish oil, creatine, and protein along with ramping up your caloric intake. That's the essential four right there for lean muscle mass gain. I learned this all in 1/2 a day from the "scrawny to brawny" flash classes (5 day crash course) found in my thread just a few notches below this one.

Good post.

I'd simply add that for most average gym rats just tryinjg to get in shape and trying to add a bit of muscle, you don't need protein supplements at all - with some basic meal planning, you can get all the protein ( grams ) you need in a day from your diet .i.e fish, chicken, dairy etc....just takes a bit of work and planning.

Carbs are the primary fuel for muscles and their growth - and carbs should be 60%/65% of our diet - not protein, which should only make up 15% / 20% of our total intake of calories in a day.

[Bargain_Junkie]

I have a very fast metabolism and I don't think I get as many calories a day. What's the best weight gainer out there?


Hey poedua i've read some of your posts and you really seem to know your stuff. Do you mind if I asked you a few questions about working out and getting bigger by pm?

[UrbanPoet]

make ur own!

1tblspoon of natty penut butter
1/2 cup of oats
1.5 scoops of whey
1 cup milk.

Shake and drink it..... FAST!
Thats 500 calories easy!

[Bargain_Junkie]

make ur own!

1tblspoon of natty penut butter
1/2 cup of oats
1.5 scoops of whey
1 cup milk.

Shake and drink it..... FAST!
Thats 500 calories easy!how many cals should I be taking in daily?

[UrbanPoet]

how many cals should I be taking in daily?

when i bulk.. igo for 3500 calories.
But it hurts!
I can only get up to 3000.
Its hard to get high calorie intake if you are eating clean.
Ppl with fast motabalism should go for 3500 calories minimum. But of course.. it depends on the person and their goals.
I once ate 4500 calories a day for a week and gained only 10 pounds strangely... (no reccommended)

[poedua]

I have a very fast metabolism and I don't think I get as many calories a day. What's the best weight gainer out there?


Hey poedua i've read some of your posts and you really seem to know your stuff. Do you mind if I asked you a few questions about working out and getting bigger by pm?

I have no problem with a PM.

But, another thought is, instead of a PM, to simply put any questions you have on to this thread or start another - and in that way you can get the benefit of the experience of other RFD members in seeing their replies, and so can they ( and so can I :) )

Not only that, but I'll learn something to by reading replies from other RFD members as well ...there's a ton of good weight training fitness knowledge / experience in this forum....any questions you have would likely be of interest to the entire forum and we can all learn something more along the way.

Just a thought. :)

[poedua]

how many cals should I be taking in daily?

A very good question....from an earlier post of mine........

The question of how many calories you should be taking in during the course of a day is an important one. It'll help you figure out a solid strategy on which to either sustain a current weight level , gain or lose weight. It'll also - give you some idea as to how an balance your diet in terms of carb, fat and protien intake....and if you read enough of these threads, the issue of much protein you should be taking each day always seems to in the background ( i.e protein shakes, bars etc. ). Let's assume you're 175 lbs.

Quick and dirty method: ( 2,670 calories ) : ( Found this a book I've read and noticed it cited on the web in a few places ). I usually stick with 15.25 ( below )

- Very Light Exercise..................Multiply your weight in pounds by 13

- Light Exercise .......................Multiply your weight in pounds by 14

- Moderate Exercise..................Multiply your weight in pounds by 15.25

- Moderate-Heavy Exercise .......Multiply your weight in pounds by 16.5

- Heavy Exercise......................Multiply your weight in pounds by 18

So, if you're 175 lbs. and moderately active, it's 15.25 x 175 ..which is 2,670 calories.

The RMR Method ( 2,625 calories ) : ( Got his from a nutrition book ) RMR stand for your Resting Metabolic Rate . RMR is the number of calories you need to simply exist - breathe, pump blood, etc.

1. Find your RMR. Take your weight and multiply by 10 calories per lb. bodyweight. Say you're 175 lbs. 175 x 10 calories = 1,750 calories RMR

2. How many calories for " normal " ( non- exercise ) daily actvity : This getting up, going to school/ work, shopping, etc.

Sedentary ................20% - 40% RMR
Moderatley Active.......40% - 60% RMR
Very Active ...............60% - 80% RMR

Say you're moderately active ( assume 50% RMR ). 50% x 1,750 RMR = 875 calories. Now you're total is up to 1,750 RMR plus 875 for moderate actvity for a total of 2,625 calories. You'll notice 2,670 ( from the quick and dirty method ) and 2,625 are almost the same.

3. Find the calories for your exercise : Try as best you can to figire out how many calories your activity takes..i.e 30 minutes or weights, 30 minutes of cardio, 1 hour of hockey etc. For example, if 30 minutes of cardio needss 350 calories ...add 350 calories to 2,625 and you get 2,975 calories.

Gain/ Lose Weight: Remember that adding an additional 3,500 calories to your diet will add 1 pound of fat to your body - and losing an additional 3,500 calories in your diet will drop 1 pound of fat from your body. That is 500 calories a day to add or lose a pound in a week( 3,500 calories in a week / 7 days )

A good rule of thumb is to adjust your total calories up/down 20% to gain/ lose fat.

Want to gain weight ???........ Say your total as above is 3,000 calories. Eat more and bump up your calories by 20 % ...3,000 x 20% = 600 calories a day. With an additonal 600 calories a day you'll gain a pound in less than a week.

Want to lose weight ??? ........Eat less, do cardio, do weights and burn off / reduce your calories by 20 % ...3,000 x 20% = 600 calories a day. With an additonal 600 calories being lost a day you'll lose a pound in less than a week.

Track Your Calories: You need to become savvy about serving sizes and exactly how many calories you are putting in your mouth each day...these tables will also tell you how many grams of protien carbs and fat your taking in.

Take some time and check out the calories in a sub sandwich, glass of milk, can of tuna, a hamburger, fries, a pizza slice, a muffin, a can of Coke, chocolate bars, an apple, eggs, protien shakes, iced cappuccino etc. etc. ...you'll be surprised

[poedua]

when i bulk.. igo for 3500 calories.
But it hurts!
I can only get up to 3000.
Its hard to get high calorie intake if you are eating clean.

Actually, I would disagree. You simply have to ratchet up the quantity of and range of healthy food you eat. It can be done without supplements ( like carb and / or protien shakes ) without too much trouble.

Ppl with fast motabalism should go for 3500 calories minimum..

Again, I'd disagree. There is no mimimum. The example in my other post started at 2,700 calories for someone who is 175 lbs. - using a safe bump of 20%, it only puts him at 3,250...3,500 would almost be a bump of calories by 30%. Much of it depends on your curent weight and activity level. You simply can't pick a mimimum/ maximum out of thin air and apply it to everyone.

But of course.. it depends on the person and their goals.


Agreed...pretty much what I'm saying too. :)

[UrbanPoet]

Actually, I would disagree. You simply have to ratchet up the quantity of and range of healthy food you eat. It can be done without supplements ( like carb and / or protien shakes ) without too much trouble.
)

Its hard for me to eat!
I eat... alot of brown rice, chicken, and fibre filled veggies like carrots and broccoli, and mushrooms to give it a watery flavour.

I eat a meal like taht twice a day.
My breakfast is 1/2 a cup of lrg flake oatmeal which really fills me.
Before i sleep... 1/2 cup of cottage cheeze.
This only adds up to about 2500 calories even with my post work out shake.
For some reason its hard for me to take in alot of calories unless its Dirty!!!

600 calories worth of burgers and fries is So much easier to down then 500 calories worth of brown rice and Jerk Chicken...

Poodle, you should just start your own "Ask me anything about health/fitness" thread. :cheesygri

[Bargain_Junkie]

Is Mammoth 2500 any good?

[mpt]

I have a question why would anyone want to gain weight? There are no physiological advantages of being heavier. I can see it if you are a professional athlete, but the average person :?:

Are you all looking to add muscle mass, or do you just want to add weight?

[batcave]

I heard Frito Lay chips are good for weight gain - especially if you combine it with beer or soda pop.

I wonder if there is any difference between flavour combinations. Is sour cream & onion with dr. pepper better than all dressed and pepsi?

[batcave]

make ur own!

1tblspoon of natty penut butter
1/2 cup of oats
1.5 scoops of whey
1 cup milk.

Shake and drink it..... FAST!
Thats 500 calories easy!
This is a sure-fire way for liver cancer. Peanuts contain aflatoxins (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aflatoxin). Aflatoxins are toxic and carcinogenic to animals, including humans. After entering the body, aflatoxins are metabolized by the liver. By itself, alatoxins are not dangerous, however, if you ingest casein, a protein found cow's milk, it seems to activate the propesity for developing liver cancer. All peanuts contain aflatoxins, however, the most are found in peanuts that are used in peanut butters.

This is from the book, The China Study (http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/1932100385/qid=1149008095), the most important book you can read for your health.

btw, the best, most concentrated sources of protein is from plants. Hemp has about 55% protein by weight and chlorella has about 65% by weight.

[mpt]

This is a sure-fire way for liver cancer. Peanuts contain aflatoxins (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aflatoxin). Aflatoxins are toxic and carcinogenic to animals, including humans. After entering the body, aflatoxins are metabolized by the liver. By itself, alatoxins are not dangerous, however, if you ingest casein, a protein found cow's milk, it seems to activate the propesity for developing liver cancer. All peanuts contain aflatoxins, however, the most are found in peanuts that are used in peanut butters.

This is from the book, The China Study (http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/1932100385/qid=1149008095), the most important book you can read for your health.

btw, the best, most concentrated sources of protein is from plants. Hemp has about 55% protein by weight and chlorella has about 65% by weight.

Hmmm... I like your lays/pop/beer analogy better...

[mpt]

One tablespoon of peanut butter isn't going to give you cancer...

Just remember its a book, anyone can write a book, and say thats its backed by research. The atkins book was backed by research too, even though when you read it, its completely flawed. Not saying that The China Study isn't true, just a small amount of peanut butter (1 tablespoon) isn't enough to kill you. Our water probably has more cancer causing agents than our peanut butter.

[UrbanPoet]

This is a sure-fire way for liver cancer. Peanuts contain aflatoxins (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aflatoxin). Aflatoxins are toxic and carcinogenic to animals, including humans. After entering the body, aflatoxins are metabolized by the liver. By itself, alatoxins are not dangerous, however, if you ingest casein, a protein found cow's milk, it seems to activate the propesity for developing liver cancer. All peanuts contain aflatoxins, however, the most are found in peanuts that are used in peanut butters.

This is from the book, The China Study (http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/1932100385/qid=1149008095), the most important book you can read for your health.

btw, the best, most concentrated sources of protein is from plants. Hemp has about 55% protein by weight and chlorella has about 65% by weight.

NAtty peanut butter is just plain roasted un salted peanuts that are grinded up in a mush... nothing else added.

100% natural.

[mpt]

NAtty peanut butter is just plain roasted un salted peanuts that are grinded up in a mush... nothing else added.

100% natural.

But they cause cancer! :lol:
I've never tried Natty myself, but I do love Adams (essentially the same I believe)

BTW props to my 1000th post... I'M A DEAL ADDICT!!!!!!!!!!

[batcave]

One tablespoon of peanut butter isn't going to give you cancer...

Just remember its a book, anyone can write a book, and say thats its backed by research. The atkins book was backed by research too, even though when you read it, its completely flawed. Not saying that The China Study isn't true, just a small amount of peanut butter (1 tablespoon) isn't enough to kill you. Our water probably has more cancer causing agents than our peanut butter.Atkins was a fat bastard when he was living.

The China Study was written by a phd who set out to prove that many illnesses/afflictions are caused by what we ingest rather than 'genetic influences'. China was the perfect place because 80% of the population has basically the same genetics. Yet, some people got high cholesterol, heart disease, etc. while others did not. It is common sense that our diets cause many of our 'diseases of affluence'.

Who would you believe? A fat man or a smart man?

This is making me hungry...I might just go get a LARGE bag of all dressed.

[mpt]

LOL... remember all dressed goes down well with cream soda! I totally agree, our diets do come down to a lot of diseases, but 1 tablespoon of peanut butter isn't the end of the world.

[Bargain_Junkie]

I have a question why would anyone want to gain weight? There are no physiological advantages of being heavier. I can see it if you are a professional athlete, but the average person :?:

Are you all looking to add muscle mass, or do you just want to add weight?
With weight gainers like Mammoth and Muscle juice you gain mass and some flab on your muscles. It's good for hard gainer like me.

So does anyone know if Mammoth is any good???

[poedua]

With weight gainers like Mammoth and Muscle juice you gain mass and some flab on your muscles. It's good for hard gainer like me.

So does anyone know if Mammoth is any good???

These supplements like Mammoth and Muscle juice . Is there something in them that can't be found in food ? I thought they're just a simple combo of carbs and proteins.

Wouldn't it be just as easy to " gain mass and some flab on your muscles " by simply boosting your caloric intake from food sources ?

Or are you wanting to take these supplements in shakes strictly for the convenience factor they provide ?

[Div]

Natty Peanut Butter is another way of saying Natural Peanut Butter.

[buffet boy]

here's a good home made weight gainer recipe:

one serving:

-2 eggs
-1 cup of whole milk
-2 table spoons of peanut butter
-1 banana
-1/4 cup of cooked oatmeal

blend. there's plenty of calories there, plus healthy fats and slow burning carbohydrates

[sonick]

This is a sure-fire way for liver cancer. Peanuts contain aflatoxins (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aflatoxin). Aflatoxins are toxic and carcinogenic to animals, including humans. After entering the body, aflatoxins are metabolized by the liver. By itself, alatoxins are not dangerous, however, if you ingest casein, a protein found cow's milk, it seems to activate the propesity for developing liver cancer. All peanuts contain aflatoxins, however, the most are found in peanuts that are used in peanut butters.

This is from the book, The China Study (http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/1932100385/qid=1149008095), the most important book you can read for your health.

btw, the best, most concentrated sources of protein is from plants. Hemp has about 55% protein by weight and chlorella has about 65% by weight.
Aflatoxins are only found on moldy/stale peanuts. Fresh peanuts/peanut butter will have low, if any traceable amounts of it.

[Bargain_Junkie]

These supplements like Mammoth and Muscle juice . Is there something in them that can't be found in food ? I thought they're just a simple combo of carbs and proteins.

Wouldn't it be just as easy to " gain mass and some flab on your muscles " by simply boosting your caloric intake from food sources ?

Or are you wanting to take these supplements in shakes strictly for the convenience factor they provide ?
You didn't return my pm :mad:

convenience is great