[Re-Active] BestBuy - HP 50-Pack 8X 4.7GB DVD-/+R $9.97

[snow925]

BestBuy - HP 50-Pack 8X 4.7GB DVD-/+R is now on sale:

$9.97 :lol:
Price was raised to $12.97
Price reduces back to $9.97 now :razz:


http://www.bestbuy.ca/multimedia/products/large/10066672.jpg

Click here for direct link! (http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0926INGFS10066672&catid=24036&logon=L&langid=EN#)

[vric]

If it's anything like the HP CD-R, I would stay far away..

[Exhibit]

Nice

[burnaby]

Anyone know who makes these? Are they MIC and not MIJ? Any comments from the Gurus?

[enforcerviper]

I had all sorts of problems with these..

My V2310CA laptop burned it incredibly slowly.
2 of 3 BenQ DW1620 drives would burn, the other would not recognize the disc.

[willy]

+R too ... http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=L&langid=EN&sku_id=0926INGFS10066651&catid=24035

For the same prices, I think these are WAY better than those fake TY discs (*cough* DataWare *cough*) ... ;)

[willy]

Anyone know who makes these? Are they MIC and not MIJ? Any comments from the Gurus?
Neither ... They are MIT (CMC).

[burnaby]

I've an HP burner and with such cheap price will risk a pack. Question is -R or +R, probably go -R cause I haven't used +Rs.
+R too ... http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=L&langid=EN&sku_id=0926INGFS10066651&catid=24035

For the same prices, I think these are WAY better than those fake TY discs (*cough* DataWare *cough*) ... ;)

[willy]

I've an HP burner and with such cheap price will risk a pack. Question is -R or +R, probably go -R cause I haven't used +Rs.
At this price, split half of each with your friends/relatives :)

[enforcerviper]

I bought 2 +R's. Hopefully better than the -R's.

[madman604]

eh, for $10 i'm in for 6.

if they are crap back they go. no big deal

[southnam]

is this only online?

[mok86]

bought 4 lol heres hoping this cmc is as good as the phillips :D if not back they go! hehe

[The Shirker]

Damn you RFD! I so don't need anymore of these but ordered a single pack (restraint is good) of the +Rs. Hope these work - I recently bought the BenQ 1650 and have only tried Verbatim discs.

[Johnny Powel]

Mixed results on the +R.

http://www.videohelp.com/dvdmedia.php?dvdmediasearch=hp&dvdmediadvdridsearch=&type=3&size=4.7&dvdburnspeed=All&order=Name&hits=25&search=Search+or+List+Media

[wysiwyg]

is this only online?

Page says "Online only", but it gives you the option to pick up in store, so I'm confused. Not even sure if they carry these ones in their stores.

[burnaby]

The pickup option will eventually fail when you actually proceed with it.
Page says "Online only", but it gives you the option to pick up in store, so I'm confused. Not even sure if they carry these ones in their stores.

[burnaby]

Was about to take your advise of 1 each till viper posted.


Problem is at that price usually end up giving them away cause friend/relative wants like 20. Can't ask them for 4 bucks!
At this price, split half of each with your friends/relatives :)


Now I'm not sure about getting 2 +R or one of each. Just don't want to waste time burning onto unreliable disk.
I bought 2 +R's. Hopefully better than the -R's.

[[buck]]

Oh no... the DVD+R is OOS. >:(

[burnaby]

Damn you RFDers. Added the +R but was OOS when I check out immediately afterward.

The -R was @ 200 earlier, now down to 135.

[Darko]

Damn you RFDers. Added the +R but was OOS when I check out immediately afterward.

The -R was @ 200 earlier, now down to 135.

i dont even know the diffrence between +r and -R >:(

[burnaby]

dash R is the older standard, plus R is newer. Supposely shouldn't make a difference in new player but I have an older vintage player ($700 DVD karaoke machine). Some MFR are better at -R, some at +R. Way to complicated, much easier in BETA vs. VHS days :twisted:
i dont even know the diffrence between +r and -R >:(

[[buck]]

DVD+R is back in stock. 200 left.

[burnaby]

+R just went back up to 200. Damn, already submitted my -R order (incidentally they've already processed, that was quick). Have to enter another order, thanks goodness for free shipping.

[burnaby]

Looks like you too have been checking. As one of the DVD gurus any suggestions on -R vs. +R. Obviously you're endorsing the product by ordering some for yourself.
']DVD+R is back in stock. 200 left.

[[buck]]

Looks like you too have been checking. As one of the DVD gurus any suggestions on -R vs. +R. Obviously you're endorsing the product by ordering some for yourself.

Well, I haven't ordered QUITE yet, but I'm seriously considering!! In this case DVD-R and DVD+R are of similar quality, with perhaps a slight edge to the DVD+R.

[[buck]]

Okay, this is weird. While the product page says the price is $9.97, it's $12.97 when you add it too your cart. Anyone else experiencing this?

[Battscrew]

+r is good if you have the ability to set the bitrate of your burner

[rahzel]

']Okay, this is weird. While the product page says the price is $9.97, it's $12.97 when you add it too your cart. Anyone else experiencing this?
i see 12.97 on the product page now, too.

+r is good if you have the ability to set the bitrate of your burner
you mean booktype?
setting the booktype for DVD5 media isnt very important anymore IMO. both + and - should be compatible with any DVD player these days. setting it for DVD9 media might be a good idea, though.

[[buck]]

i see 12.97 on the product page now, too.

I guess that means I missed this sale. :mad:

[cl281]

mine is HP DVD-r, I can only find this number on the disc:CMDR47G-CAEWM03-036 , MADE IN TAIWAN?

[burnaby]

Uh-oh, you're right, both -R and +R went from 10 to 13. I checked out one of each around 2pm at $10 each.
']Okay, this is weird. While the product page says the price is $9.97, it's $12.97 when you add it too your cart. Anyone else experiencing this?

[burnaby]

Retail package should have a label indicating the country of origin unlike bulk packaging.
mine is HP DVD-r, I can only find this number on the disc:CMDR47G-CAEWM03-036 , MADE IN TAIWAN?

[trinh]

mine is HP DVD-r, I can only find this number on the disc:CMDR47G-CAEWM03-036 , MADE IN TAIWAN?

According to http://www.videohelp.com/dvdmedia.php?selectmedia=2750#comments

THese discs are very fine.

[sowandreap]

bought 2 -R each $12.97, thanks

[mahjongmaniac]

bought 2 -R each $12.97, thanks

um... i'm sure BB would have another sale on these soon for $10 (or the equivalent for larger pks)

so... IMO u should've refrained f/ buying @ $13.

$10 is good deal, but so-so for $13 IMO.



btw, what's up w/ BB jacking up the price all of a sudden? :|
was actually gonna p/u a pk at $10... no way at $13.

[burnaby]

They changed it sometime between 14:00 to 17:00 yesterday. Talk about a short sale. Technically they didn't "jack up the price", they reduce the sales amount.

OT: Gonna get rid of the PEPSI IPOD WINNER thing in your sig, yes it was sweet like the XMas hats but is now lingering like a stale bread/thread.
um... i'm sure BB would have another sale on these soon for $10 (or the equivalent for larger pks)

so... IMO u should've refrained f/ buying @ $13.

$10 is good deal, but so-so for $13 IMO.



btw, what's up w/ BB jacking up the price all of a sudden? :|
was actually gonna p/u a pk at $10... no way at $13.

[mahjongmaniac]

They changed it sometime between 14:00 to 17:00 yesterday. Talk about a short sale. Technically they didn't "jack up the price", they reduce the sales amount.

well, however u put it, it's kinda dumb that they put a ~3 hr sale...

OT: Gonna get rid of the PEPSI IPOD WINNER thing in your sig, yes it was sweet like the XMas hats but is now lingering like a stale bread/thread.

haha... lol.... i'll prbly remove it soon.

but i gotta say i was an XBOX360 loser,... so that kinda keeps me happy if u will... :P

[southnam]

Just picked up a 100 pack 4x dvd-r Kodak brand at futureshop. Is this a good deal?

[mahjongmaniac]

Just picked up a 100 pack 4x dvd-r Kodak brand at futureshop. Is this a good deal?

no not at all.

search for "kodak" on RFD and u'll find LOTS of threads on this media... u'll realize that those threads aren't even "welcome" on RFD anymore lol :P

[southnam]

thanks just searched and found the 25xxth thread on it... So I need some dvd discs within next few days. Are the HP 50 pack BB sale for $13 the best there is out there now for a 50 or 25 pack?

[burnaby]

If you put it that way keep the winner quote over the proposed loser one, happyhappy.

but i gotta say i was an XBOX360 loser,... so that kinda keeps me happy if u will... :P



[buck] , one of the resident experts on DVD, mentioned about missing the deal @ 10 bucks. Extrapolate from that 10 bucks is good deal, 13 is so-so.

Keep in mind it's "online only" so if store pickup is not available you won't get it till next week with free shipping.
thanks just searched and found the 25xxth thread on it... So I need some dvd discs within next few days. Are the HP 50 pack BB sale for $13 the best there is out there now for a 50 or 25 pack?

[[buck]]

[buck] , one of the resident experts on DVD, mentioned about missing the deal @ 10 bucks. Extrapolate from that 10 bucks is good deal, 13 is so-so.

$0.20 really is an insane price on DVDR media from a major brand like HP. NOBODY is making a penny off these.

[burnaby]

Throw in FREE CanadaPost Ground shipping to boot. Wonder if they're losing money on this.

PS. Just got confirmaion my yesterday order of -R and order of +R just shipped.
']$0.20 really is an insane price on DVDR media from a major brand like HP. NOBODY is making a penny off these.

[jbird2001]

HEY, just wanted to let people know that I ordered for 12.97 but when I got there today the pickup lady said "hmm, it says on the computer that it's on sale for 9.99...so I'll give it to you at that price."

Sweet deal, got 2 dvd-r packs. Hope they do the same math for you guys.

[NG]

']$0.20 really is an insane price on DVDR media from a major brand like HP. NOBODY is making a penny off these.

Yep....got 2 packs of the + for $10 each and even tho I usually don't touch media this low in quality anymore knowing that Best Buy didn't make a cent off this (and perhaps lost a few) is the only reason I ordered :lol: Hopefully the 1650 likes 'em.

Throw in FREE CanadaPost Ground shipping to boot.


Yep :D

Wonder if they're losing money on this.


One can hope.

[mahjongmaniac]

HEY, just wanted to let people know that I ordered for 12.97 but when I got there today the pickup lady said "hmm, it says on the computer that it's on sale for 9.99...so I'll give it to you at that price."

Sweet deal, got 2 dvd-r packs. Hope they do the same math for you guys.

hm... so according to what u claim, these are still $10 instore?

[burnaby]

Definitely a YMMV with BB frequent price change.
hm... so according to what u claim, these are still $10 instore?

[mahjongmaniac]

If you put it that way keep the winner quote over the proposed loser one, happyhappy.


nah... if i don't put the loser one, i'll never have to remind myself that i was a loser :cheesygri

[snow925]

$9.97 is back !!!

[wing0]

just noticed fujifilm has new packaging for their 50s and 100s.
Anybody know the quality??

This deal is tempting at the price factor...but i really worry how long data will last on it.

[wwtsang]

i still have a spindle of memorex, and 2 MIJ maxell 25-disc spindles from the $3 or $4 150% PM days at stooples

and 8x is a bit slow, not that good of a deal

[Kainnon]

Soooo... should I pull the trigger on this deal?
There are so many mixed messages on wheither these disks are actually good.

[wwtsang]

Soooo... should I pull the trigger on this deal?
There are so many mixed messages on wheither these disks are actually good.

i guess you can leave it, it should have better reliability (i hope) for hd burners, and it's still a decent price (20 cents is about right)

[Kainnon]

Not intentionally diverting the topic or anything, but what disks should I be hunting for? I've read that sony ones have good bonding... But I don't really understand what that means...
Actually, I'm not quite sure what ppl are refering to, when they say these aren't good? Do they have some sort of expiration date or something? Does your data go bad after a few months?
:confused:

[mahjongmaniac]

i still have a spindle of memorex, and 2 MIJ maxell 25-disc spindles from the $3 or $4 150% PM days at stooples


yeah, actually back in the days of 150% PM, i remember it was more like $5-6 for a 25pk of MIJ Maxell discs... pretty hot deal back then.

but AFAIC, those weren't even the hottest deals....

the hottest i recall was this deal: http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=185417

:D

[snow925]

the hottest i recall was this deal: http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=185417

:D

I think Fujifilm 25 pack spindle $0 after mail-in-rebate and free McFurry from last year November is also great!! :lol:

[mahjongmaniac]

I think Fujifilm 25 pack spindle $0 after mail-in-rebate and free McFurry from last year November is also great!! :lol:

hehe... yeah, not to mention some ppl that bought a few spindles and send one UPC in, and they still were sent the "X" x $7 MIR cheques :-0 what a bonus. >_>

the deal was pretty hot if u managed to p/u any MIJ spindles... (some did)
but after a few recurring PM deals, most places including FS/BB/TS only had the MIT stock left...


btw, come to think of it, i still have some unopened fuji discs which might have some free McFlurries stuck, lyin around somewhere...lol (good thing they expire like end of this yr :) )

[tjuzer]

Well I buy 200 for $20 from futureshop a while back. Do I nee more :?: :twisted:

[maxgohan]

cool, i just ordered 2 packs, at 20 bucks i dont think this is a bad deal at all, i got some of the dvd+r's at 10 bucks each...

prolly gonna do a return/sell with my gift card once they come in...

[mrken]

Which type is of higher quality and reliability? Both formats are fine. I already have a spindle of 4X Taiyo Yuden DVD-Rs, but having some cheaper media for less important data would be nice.

Are both types made by CMC?

[c001m4n]

It seems as though the DVD-Rs are more popular. I ordered 2 packs.

[rahzel]

Which type is of higher quality and reliability? Both formats are fine. I already have a spindle of 4X Taiyo Yuden DVD-Rs, but having some cheaper media for less important data would be nice.

Are both types made by CMC?
yup, both are made by CMC Magnetics, but HP seems to get pretty high grade CMC magnetics with their branded media. if i needed some DVDR's for stuff of less importance, i would definitely pick these up.

i haven't bought any HP DVDR's in a while, but buck said that the +R might be slightly better, but both should be ok.

[willy]

just noticed fujifilm has new packaging for their 50s and 100s.
Anybody know the quality??

This deal is tempting at the price factor...but i really worry how long data will last on it.
If you only have important files to backup, I don't think you should even start reading this thread in the first place ;) Like quite a few peeps here, I/we like to keep a few 'tiers' or classes of discs on hand - 'very good' class (for important files) and 'cheap' class (everything else) ... These HP at this price fit the latter perfectly.

[southnam]

I went to store and they refused to give it to me for $10 saying they don't price match online deals only. anyhow, just for that, I"m ordering 2 and making them ship it to me in separate packages. With the $5 shipping they'll have to pay... hahaha. should have given it to me in store.

[burnaby]

Good to reflect and learn from the past, more important though is are there any current or upcoming better deals.

Those PM deals are great (150% is dead) but way too time consuming. This one ia a couple of clicks for merchandise to arrive at your home. TIME is MONEY.

BTW: I didn't even bother trying to buy instore to use GCs. Couple bucks saving is just not worth the time.
i still have a spindle of memorex, and 2 MIJ maxell 25-disc spindles from the $3 or $4 150% PM days at stooples

and 8x is a bit slow, not that good of a deal

[willy]

Good to reflect and learn from the past, more important though is are there any current or upcoming better deals.

Those PM deals are great (150% is dead) but way too time consuming. This one ia a couple of clicks for merchandise to arrive at your home. TIME is MONEY.

BTW: I didn't even bother trying to buy instore to use GCs. Couple bucks saving is just not worth the time.
And, nowadays, GAS :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :|

[burnaby]

BTW: order one of each on Wed around 2pm, shipped out yesterday from ...ausga with ETA to GVA May 3. Easterner will get it a lot faster. Canadapost tracking states NO SAFE DROP.


Absolutely right, 2 bucks of gas barely gets the minivan out of the driveway.
And, nowadays, GAS :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :|

[AnitaPeterson]

So...

ANYONE WILLING TO POST ADVICE ON WHETHER THE -R or +R ARE A BETTER BUY?

Sorry, but the thread's already 5 pages long and nobody's posted any useful information yet.

Does anyone here have any of these discs? Can you please post the media code and *maybe* some test results with Nero DVD speed etc. ???

[The Shirker]

So...

ANYONE WILLING TO POST ADVICE ON WHETHER THE -R or +R ARE A BETTER BUY?

Sorry, but the thread's already 5 pages long and nobody's posted any useful information yet.

Does anyone here have any of these discs? Can you please post the media code and *maybe* some test results with Nero DVD speed etc. ???

I found the link posted on the bottom of pg 1 to be useful.

[NG]

just for that, I"m ordering 2 and making them ship it to me in separate packages. With the $5 shipping they'll have to pay... hahaha. should have given it to me in store.


:lol: I should have done that. My two spindles of + arrived today. Wonder if I should order 2 more in seperate shipments and return the ones I got today :twisted:

[zwanzig]

If it's anything like the HP CD-R, I would stay far away..

whats wrong with HP CD-R?

I had no problem using them...

[plymouthhater]

Mine arrived today. :)

[mahjongmaniac]

Those PM deals are great (150% is dead) but way too time consuming. This one ia a couple of clicks for merchandise to arrive at your home. TIME is MONEY.


150% PMs instore, maybe... but online PMs most of the time were pretty easy ... buy it, fire off the PM request, next day check ur email and hope to have recv'd a PM confirmation ... :)


but yes nowadays, it's more about the gas :!:

[[buck]]

wow they're back to $9.97!! I guess no one was buying at $12.97. :lol:

[mahjongmaniac]

']wow they're back to $9.97!! I guess no one was buying at $12.97. :lol:

i know i definitely wouldn't :P

[wabbit]

Thanks, bought 3 packs of +Rs

[enforcerviper]

Anyone get them yet? Mine say "out for delivery" at 9:00 am but were never delivered. Hopefully I'll get them Monday and will post the results.

[bodobodo]

Anyone get them yet? Mine say "out for delivery" at 9:00 am but were never delivered. Hopefully I'll get them Monday and will post the results.

I received my 2 packs of DVD-R and 1 pack of DVD+R discs today.

[burnaby]

GCs, MJ, gonna remember the GC factor. Can't use GCs online, gonna go instore to rebuy thus time and gas.
150% PMs instore, maybe... but online PMs most of the time were pretty easy ... buy it, fire off the PM request, next day check ur email and hope to have recv'd a PM confirmation ... :)


but yes nowadays, it's more about the gas :!:

[cheukiecfu]

some info about the deck i got:

Nero CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
Basic Information
Disc type: : DVD-R
Book Type : DVD-R
Manufacturer: : CMC
MID : CMC MAG. AE1
Write speeds: : 2.4 X - 4 X - 8 X - 12 X
Blank Capacity : 4.38 GB
: 4489 MB
: 4707321856 bytes
Extended Information
Layers : 1
Usage : General
Recorder information
Disc Status : Empty
Raw Data
Pre-recorded Information in Lead-in (0Eh)
0000 - 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 35 0D 0E 88 9A 80 00 - .@....R..5......
0010 - 03 43 4D 43 20 4D 41 00 04 47 2E 20 41 45 31 00 - .CMC.MA..G..AE1.
0020 - 05 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 E0 D4 05 00 18 EE 90 7C - ...............|
0030 - 78 FB 90 7C FF FF FF FF 71 FB 90 7C 18 6A DD 77 - x..|....q..|.j.w
0040 - 51 6A DD 77 00 00 16 00 02 00 00 80 30 00 00 00 - Qj.w........0...
0050 - 18 00 00 00 30 00 00 00 18 D5 05 00 40 00 01 00 - ....0.......@...
0060 - 0B 00 00 00 20 D4 05 00 4E 00 4E 00 98 D5 05 00 - ........N.N.....

[wing0]

I thought they're 8X not 12X.

[ilikecheapstuff]

I thought they're 8X not 12X.

depends on your burner... compatibility with some discs
i know the 8x fuji MIJ's i got a while back burned at 12x on my LG burner... but only 8x with my memorex external burner

[NG]

Anyone get them yet? Mine say "out for delivery" at 9:00 am but were never delivered. Hopefully I'll get them Monday and will post the results.

Yep. Mine came earlier today too.

[DealJunky1]

I don't really care what brand it is when its that cheap!

[NG]

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/5558/bqdvd5qj.gif

Meh...ok I guess. I'm crediting the quality score to the 1650 and not the media. Wonder how many discs it'll take b4 the solidburn increases the scores...

[[buck]]

Meh...ok I guess. I'm crediting the quality score to the 1650 and not the media. Wonder how many discs it'll take b4 the solidburn increases the scores...

Man, you need to update CD Speed.

But yeah, good result, but don't think solidburn is magically going to make burn quality 10x better on a well supported MID.

[jameslinux]

']Man, you need to update CD Speed.

But yeah, good result, but don't think solidburn is magically going to make burn quality 10x better on a well supported MID.


Hey Buck, did you buy these media? These are cheaper than my costco TDKs, I always burn stuff for people so may want to pickup a spindle or two just for that purpose.

[[buck]]

Hey Buck, did you buy these media? These are cheaper than my costco TDKs, I always burn stuff for people so may want to pickup a spindle or two just for that purpose.

I ordered them tonight. And yes, these are probably, on average, better than the TDKs at Costco. Especially the DVD+Rs.

[NG]

']Man, you need to update CD Speed.

But yeah, good result, but don't think solidburn is magically going to make burn quality 10x better on a well supported MID.

Ahhh ok - so solidburn is to increase burn quality for under supported/new MID's then that's not in the 1650's firmware?

I am confused tho - There's a new version of CD Speed? I think it was part of my Nero install bundle. How is the new one better?

[[buck]]

Ahhh ok - so solidburn is to increase burn quality for under supported/new MID's then that's not in the 1650's firmware?

I am confused tho - There's a new version of CD Speed? I think it was part of my Nero install bundle. How is the new one better?

Solidburn is for unsupported/poorly supported media types, media of variable quality or from multiple manufacturers, etc. CMCMAGE01 is a very well supported mid (in this drive), and your particular batch is quite good so gains will be negligible.

Having said that, solidburn usually doesn't hurt to leave on. It really depends disc-to-disc.

[NG]

']Solidburn is for unsupported/poorly supported media types, media of variable quality or from multiple manufacturers, etc. CMCMAGE01 is a very well supported mid (in this drive), and your particular batch is quite good so gains will be negligible.

Having said that, solidburn usually doesn't hurt to leave on. It really depends disc-to-disc.

Ahhh interesting. Just to confirm - is solidburn on by default for this drive? I'm still trying to set the booktype to DVD-Video so I have no idea what I'm doing with this drive so far :lol:

[rahzel]

Ahhh interesting. Just to confirm - is solidburn on by default for this drive? I'm still trying to set the booktype to DVD-Video so I have no idea what I'm doing with this drive so far :lol:
theres 2 settings for solidburn - one for supported media, and one for unsupported media. by default, supported media is disabled, and unsupported media is enabled.

by setting the booktype to DVD-Video, do you mean to DVD-ROM? BenQ drives automatically set all + media to -ROM.

[enforcerviper]

For those that received they packages, did you have to sign for it?

Please tell me that they don't drop the box and run.

[sannin]

I just bought I pack of +R's. I've always used -R, so i'll give this a shot.

Also, no more free shipping for the -R's, well at least when I checked it, there wasn't!

[NG]

theres 2 settings for solidburn - one for supported media, and one for unsupported media. by default, supported media is disabled, and unsupported media is enabled.

by setting the booktype to DVD-Video, do you mean to DVD-ROM? BenQ drives automatically set all + media to -ROM.

Hmmm...perhaps I do - if that's the setting that enables better reading in DVD players. How would I turn it on for supported media?

[[buck]]

Hmmm...perhaps I do - if that's the setting that enables better reading in DVD players. How would I turn it on for supported media?

QSuite (http://support.benq.com/files/Storage/Software/QSuite/QSuite%20v2.1%20Setup.zip)

[jameslinux]

No more free shipping, wants $12 for $10 dollar product, now that's crazy. Looks like alot of stuff on BB doesn't have free shipping anymore, well at least to where I live. :mad:

[[buck]]

No more free shipping, wants $12 for $10 dollar product, now that's crazy. Looks like alot of stuff on BB doesn't have free shipping anymore, well at least to where I live. :mad:

Shipping is still free on the DVD+Rs.

[NG]

For those that received they packages, did you have to sign for it?

Please tell me that they don't drop the box and run.

I had problems with them doing that even when it was signed delivery - or them just not bothering to buzz even tho I was home and taking it to the post office so I complained to Can Post HQ about a year ago and they stopped doing both of those.

My delivery was weird. Guy buzzed, I went out, got handed the package, started to walk back in side, then he said "oh does that need to be signed for", I showed him the front then he said "oh no never mind"; the box by "signature required do not safe drop" was not checked so it could be possible that's what happened with yours.

You're in the same city as the warehouse and I'm in a neighbouring city so by all right you should have got yours either when I got mine or before so I'm wondering if something is up with your delivery.

[NG]

']QSuite (http://support.benq.com/files/Storage/Software/QSuite/QSuite%20v2.1%20Setup.zip)

Ahhh - so that's what QSuite is for. I've heard of it before. Thanks :D

[[buck]]

For those that received they packages, did you have to sign for it?

Please tell me that they don't drop the box and run.

BB/FS doesn't request signature required unless the value of package is ~$80.

[Iron Chef Ajax]

OOS once again.

[burnaby]

What does your CP tracking status say? Mine say "Do Not Safe Drop", will find out likely Wed if they drop and run.

Why doesn't BB ship out of GVA, darn extra 3 days from ON.
For those that received they packages, did you have to sign for it?

Please tell me that they don't drop the box and run.

[jameslinux]

']Shipping is still free on the DVD+Rs.

I just checked and it appears Bestbuy no longer offer free shipping here, but free in Toronto where I use to live.

Even more reason to move back to Toronto, home of all the deals.

[[buck]]

What does your CP tracking status say? Mine say "Do Not Safe Drop", will find out likely Wed if they drop and run.

Why doesn't BB ship out of GVA, darn extra 3 days from ON.

In my experience, "Do Not Safe Drop" means absolutely nothing. In theory, it means they have to hand it to an actual person, but CP always leaves "Do Not Safe Dropped" packages on the doorstep is no one is home.

[[buck]]

I just checked and it appears Bestbuy no longer offer free shipping here, but free in Toronto where I use to live.

Even more reason to move back to Toronto, home of all the deals.

Wow, that's really surprising. You think they'd open a warehouse for western Canada.

[NG]

']In my experience, "Do Not Safe Drop" means absolutely nothing. In theory, it means they have to hand it to an actual person, but CP always leaves "Do Not Safe Dropped" packages on the doorstep is no one is home.

Yeah :( One time I was home, it said do not safe drop, and they left it infront of my apt door with 10 other apts on the same floor - the same floor as the laundry room so anybody could have walked by. That's what prompted me to call and complain. It's been fine since then tho.

[Montague]

I just checked and it appears Bestbuy no longer offer free shipping here, but free in Toronto where I use to live.

Even more reason to move back to Toronto, home of all the deals.
Free shipping to Vancouver - home to one of the "three islands of red".

[jameslinux]

Free shipping to Vancouver - home to one of the "three islands of red".

Yeah, I need to move to a city one of these days but life in Whistler is awesome but now that the snow has melted I may decide to move but Golf is pretty good here too and I get really cheap rates as a local.

At least Futureshop still offers free shipping here, not sure why BB change that.

[cheukiecfu]

for mine.. the guy just left it in front of the door.. buzzed my door and left
by the time i got to the door.. he was already in the car.. backing out my driveway..
so i guess if i wasn't home.. sb could have taken the package anytime..

[enforcerviper]

FOUND IT! The box was fallen off my porch onto the grass at the side.

Great delivery. What if it was more expensive? That's pretty terrible shipping.

[NG]

Any word on the HP's stand on the bonding issue?

With the quality score of the burns I'm thinking that these might rate higher than the Fuji +MIJ 8x DVDs I have around here.

[NG]

FOUND IT! The box was fallen off my porch onto the grass at the side.

Great delivery. What if it was more expensive? That's pretty terrible shipping.

...or if it was fragile. Fedex or somebody should consider directly competiting with the post office on a letter/parcel carrier basis.

[[buck]]

...or if it was fragile. Fedex or somebody should consider directly competiting with the post office on a letter/parcel carrier basis.

Well there's FedEx Ground... but they're generally considered terrible for reliability and package handling. The biggest problem is that all FedEx Ground couriers are contractors, and don't give a ***** about anything.

[mahjongmaniac]

']BB/FS doesn't request signature required unless the value of package is ~$80.

$80 or not, i don't even remember the last time i SIGNED for a pkg...

the last 10 +/- times i've ordered f/ FS/BB, they just ditched it either in the mailbox or at a local Canadapost/Purolator :mad:

they didn't even bother to check if there was sb at home and drop it off there 1st...


well, i guess this is still better than ditching it on the front door and leaving immediately...



lol... poor enforcerviper

[burnaby]

How the heck can a box just fall off unless they toss it in like newspaper delivery. Earthquake or racccons moved the package; sprouted legs :confused:
FOUND IT! The box was fallen off my porch onto the grass at the side.

Great delivery. What if it was more expensive? That's pretty terrible shipping.

[burnaby]

Great, was expecting CP to ignore "Do Not Safe Drop". Guess what, got a label to pick up @ post office.

I'm in a good neighbourhood where it's actually safe to drop off package @ front door. Haven't lost one yet in a decade nor had any that sprouted legs and ran off into the grass.


Looks like yoyo price is back to $12.97


']In my experience, "Do Not Safe Drop" means absolutely nothing. In theory, it means they have to hand it to an actual person, but CP always leaves "Do Not Safe Dropped" packages on the doorstep is no one is home.

[Johnny Powel]

I got mine today.Left at my front door in plain view of a public sidewalk.
Mine are orange ? I thought they were supposed to be Purple.
Will the Orange work as good ? :D

[NG]

I got mine today.Left at my front door in plain view of a public sidewalk.
Mine are orange ? I thought they were supposed to be Purple.
Will the Orange work as good ? :D

The bottoms were orange? Buck? DD? Somebody? What the hell does that mean?

[[buck]]

I got mine today.Left at my front door in plain view of a public sidewalk.
Mine are orange ? I thought they were supposed to be Purple.
Will the Orange work as good ? :D

Let me just clarify: the bottoms are orange? :-0

[rahzel]

im guessing he means the top.
+R's are purple and -R's are orange.

[Johnny Powel]

The bottoms were orange? Buck? DD? Somebody? What the hell does that mean?


Its a joke.The BB photo shows purple Tops mine showed up and they are orange

Sorry Guys !

Note: I have +R

[rahzel]

Its a joke.The BB photo shows purple Tops mine showed up and they are orange

Sorry Guys !

Note: I have +R
hmm, according to the pics, +R are supposed to be purple... it shouldnt matter though, as long as they are infact +r.

[NG]

Its a joke.The BB photo shows purple Tops mine showed up and they are orange

Sorry Guys !

Note: I have +R

Dang! I wanted some orange botttomed dvds :D

[mahjongmaniac]

Dang! I wanted some orange botttomed dvds :D

WRT orange-bottomed blanks, i think i still have some metallic cd-rs that have diff. coloured bottoms (red/yellow/purple/orange/blue)...

hm... do metallic dvds exist??

[willy]

Hmmm ... Orange ..... It should look like my 12x CD-RW ....

http://images.tigerdirect.ca/SkuImages/gallery/large/K51-2008P-a.jpg

[sowandreap]

I ordered two packs of DVD-R on Saturday April 29th, each was $9.97. It was sold out online but if you choose to have it delivered to your local store, for mines, I chose Downsview, it was available. The order went through and received notification email to pick up at Downsview.

Went to Downsview today and they dont have any available. Showed them my email and Manager decided to give me the Maxell 50-Pack 8X 4.7GB DVD-R as substitute, $9.97 each. I paid and gave me a receipt, showing paid for 2 packs of Maxell. Went home and noticed there is a $8 mail in rebate for each pack. I am going to mail it in and see, hopefully it will go through. Then I would be only paying $9.97 + tax = $11.47 minus $8 mail in rebate = $3.47 for 50 disc = $0.07 per disc. SUPER HOT DEAL. :lol: :lol: :lol:

I just checked the bestbuy site, showing $12.97 and 50 available. For the people living close to Downsview Best Buy, order it and instead of shipping, pick up at Downsview. If they give u the Maxell as subsitute, $12.97 + tax = $14.92 minus $8 mail in rebate = $6.92 for 50 disc = $0.14 per disc. Still a great deal, I think.

[mahjongmaniac]

Went to Downsview today and they dont have any available. Showed them my email and Manager decided to give me the Maxell 50-Pack 8X 4.7GB DVD-R as substitute, $9.97 each. I paid and gave me a receipt, showing paid for 2 packs of Maxell. Went home and noticed there is a $8 mail in rebate for each pack. I am going to mail it in and see, hopefully it will go through. Then I would be only paying $9.97 + tax = $11.47 minus $8 mail in rebate = $3.47 for 50 disc = $0.07 per disc. SUPER HOT DEAL. :lol: :lol: :lol:

what? $8 MIR for the maxell discs? where?

since when did BB start having MIRs for blank media?
i think they did a long time ago, but i haven't seen a MIR deal on blank media offered by FS/BB for a LONG time....

[sowandreap]

what? $8 MIR for the maxell discs? where?

since when did BB start having MIRs for blank media?
i think they did a long time ago, but i haven't seen a MIR deal on blank media offered by FS/BB for a LONG time....


Rebate Form (http://www.bestbuy.ca/Rebate/rebateform.asp?RebateID=2400210044069&logon=&langid=EN)

[willy]

Rebate Form (http://www.bestbuy.ca/Rebate/rebateform.asp?RebateID=2400210044069&logon=&langid=EN)
We should definitely keep this rebate form handy .... It still got another almost 3 months before it expires ...

[burnaby]

Love to get orange dye and orange cover, LOVE orange, such a beautiful color.
The bottoms were orange? Buck? DD? Somebody? What the hell does that mean?

[mahjongmaniac]

Rebate Form (http://www.bestbuy.ca/Rebate/rebateform.asp?RebateID=2400210044069&logon=&langid=EN)

thx4da link.

i must say that is quite a surprise...


now i've got my heads up for future PM/MIR opportunities :cheesygri


EDIT: btw, here's the link to the +R $8 MIR: http://www.bestbuy.ca/Rebate/rebateform.asp?RebateID=2400210040636&logon=&langid=EN

[ilikecheapstuff]

as much as that is 'cheap' for the maxell's... i'm never going back to them again
still got another 50 to burn and already 15-20 are coasters...
i've got a few decent ones, but who knows how much longer before CRC errors occur

[mahjongmaniac]

as much as that is 'cheap' for the maxell's... i'm never going back to them again
still got another 50 to burn and already 15-20 are coasters...
i've got a few decent ones, but who knows how much longer before CRC errors occur

15-20 coasters?

u should try and go back to .. FS/BB? ... and ask for an exchange refund (if it's still w/n the 30 day period)

YMMV tho. i've heard some ppl go back w/ just a few coasters (don't remember brand of media tho) and they've been offered an exchange.

well, since u claim ur not going back to 'em again, i guess u should try asking for refund...

[wiplash]

So which ones are better, the maxell's or the hp? Just looking for a good stable disc to burn to.

[NG]

So which ones are better, the maxell's or the hp? Just looking for a good stable disc to burn to.

Maxell or Fuji if they're made in Japan. The HP ones I have look good but since they're back to $13 I'd honestly wait and get some Verbatim's next time The Source/Staples has a spindle for $20 on sale again.

[[buck]]

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/9292/hpcmcmage01scangraph8xsolidbur.png

Sweet. :twisted:

[burnaby]

Hey [buck] can you comment (or point to link) on what good numbers are for these tests.

My LG can't do disc test so I'm not familiar with what's a good result.

Did you get and -R?

[NG]

']http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/9292/hpcmcmage01scangraph8xsolidbur.png

Sweet. :twisted:

Nice. Looks like we got the same batch. For what it's worth with the QSuite software installed I was able to burn these at 16x with a quality score of 94%.

[[buck]]

Hey [buck] can you comment (or point to link) on what good numbers are for these tests.

My LG can't do disc test so I'm not familiar with what's a good result.

Did you get and -R?

I will start by repeating what the DVD standard states:

-PI Errors must not exceed 280 at any time
-PI Failures must not exceed 4 at any time (unfortuantely, BenQ drives scan at "8ECC", which means they add up 8 consecutive ECC blocks and display it as a single block. This makes it nearly impossible to be 100% certain of the actual max value, but 16 is a nice number for 8ECC drives)
-Jitter must not exceed 8 or 9% (not 100% sure on this) It's not a big deal if jitter goes higher than this, but higher than 12% is undesirable. I personally prefer jitter max to be under 11% and average under 9%.
-NO PO Failures (see bottom right hand corner of CD Speed)

My preferences (Dolph thinks I'm super picky):

-PIE max under 30, average under 10
-PIF max under 10, total under 1000-1500, depending how tightly packed they are
-see above for jitter

By my standards, the scan I posted is a "very good" result. Be advised though, you're not guaranteed scans like me, and this media can be quite variable. It's still probably pretty good media.

[carabunny]

BestBuy - HP 50-Pack 8X 4.7GB DVD-/+R is now on sale:

$9.97 :lol:
Price was raised to $12.97
Price reduces back to $9.97 now :razz:


back to 12.97

[rahzel]

it also depends on what drive you're scanning with. some drives (NEC and Pioneer in particular) are very inaccurate scanners. some drives also report errors differently. BenQ drives use an 8ECC, while Lite-On and Plextor drives use 1ECC, so Lite-On/Plextor drives will report lower errors than BenQ drives would so they should also have lower standards.

my standards are pretty close to bucks (maybe not QUITE as picky =P). I prefer my PIE's under 50max, PIF's under 10max and right around 0.10 average, and my jitter under 11%. jitter should be ok under 12% max, and even if its a little higher, it might be ok too.

[burnaby]

Thanks to the resident DVD experts [buck] and rahzel for that detail analysis. Too bad neither my LG nor HP burners will do quality test.

So has anyone tested the -R.

PS. Go Senators, GO.

[mahjongmaniac]

back to 12.97

man, wtf's up w/ BB changing prices every now and then...?
can't they just put it up on sale for a wk straight and THEN raise up the price...geesh....



btw, thx to buck & rahzel for the indepth analysis :)

[[buck]]

PS. Go Senators, GO.

w00t :cheesygri

[rahzel]

im a HUGE leafs fan, so its VERY hard to cheer for the sens, but since theyre the only cdn team in the east, i have to root for them.

[burnaby]

I think there's still two Canadian teams :twisted: in the West but sure ain't rooting for either. Much rather see the Sens wins (Ottawa, home of cruel winters follow by hot muggy summer, at least they deserve a winning hockey team to compensate for that nasty winter, brrrrrrrrrrrr).

[mahjongmaniac]

im a HUGE leafs fan, so its VERY hard to cheer for the sens, but since theyre the only cdn team in the east, i have to root for them.

... there's still the Montreal Canadians :)

[mahjongmaniac]

I think there's still two Canadian teams :twisted: in the West but sure ain't rooting for either. Much rather see the Sens wins (Ottawa, home of cruel winters follow by hot muggy summer, at least they deserve a winning hockey team to compensate for that nasty winter, brrrrrrrrrrrr).

heh... flames/oilers? ;)

well, i see why, since the canucks didn't make it....

whoever ur cheering for, if it's Canadian it's all good.

cheers :cheesygri

[NG]

Although I never follow hockey I'll have to support Ottawa against Alberta ;)


GO SENS GO!

[rahzel]

... there's still the Montreal Canadians :)
unfortunately, they just got eliminated tonight =[.

also, even if the flames win (which they probably will) it will be the battle of alberta, and one canadian team will have to take out another. but man, what a series that will be.

anyway, back on topic =].

[mahjongmaniac]

unfortunately, they just got eliminated tonight =[.

also, even if the flames win (which they probably will) it will be the battle of alberta, and one canadian team will have to take out another. but man, what a series that will be.

anyway, back on topic =].

ah damn... really?
didn't get a chance to watch the game 2nite...

damn hurricanes...



EDIT: omg i just checked and i can't believe the hurricanes won 4 straight in a row, after Canadians were initially leading the series 2-0 :eek:
that's quite a shocker...

[Johnny Powel]

Question - I bought the +R, the discs play fine and the nero quality score is 97% but if I examine the bottom after a burn I can see faint patchy black spots ? This occurs on both of my Benq 1620.
Has anyone else noticed this and is this even a problem ?


Thanks

[burnaby]

Price has yoyo to sale $13, reg $15. That +R orange is so pretty. FUGLY on that -R red.


OT question: Burned a +R on LG4163. Six year old DVD player played it OK but 2 year old APEX wouldn't recognize, says "no disc". Works fine on PC. First time to burn +R. Do I have to bitset or something like that to get it to work.

Burned same movie on -R, worked fine. Both +R and -R took about 8 minutes to burn full disc.

[Johnny Powel]

Price has yoyo to sale $13, reg $15. That +R orange is so pretty. FUGLY on that -R red.


OT question: Burned a +R on LG4163. Six year old DVD player played it OK but 2 year old APEX wouldn't recognize, says "no disc". Works fine on PC. First time to burn +R. Do I have to bitset or something like that to get it to work.

Burned same movie on -R, worked fine. Both +R and -R took about 8 minutes to burn full disc.

Bitsetting for +R makes them more compatable for standalone players.

[NG]

Question - I bought the +R, the discs play fine and the nero quality score is 97% but if I examine the bottom after a burn I can see faint patchy black spots ? This occurs on both of my Benq 1620.
Has anyone else noticed this and is this even a problem ?


Thanks


That's weird. Bump! for any advice someone can give.

[burnaby]

Didn't notice any patchy black spots. Were they all over or near the center or edge? How big were the patch? Was it obvious or do you have to look closely?
Question - I bought the +R, the discs play fine and the nero quality score is 97% but if I examine the bottom after a burn I can see faint patchy black spots ? This occurs on both of my Benq 1620.
Has anyone else noticed this and is this even a problem ?


Thanks

[Johnny Powel]

Didn't notice any patchy black spots. Were they all over or near the center or edge? How big were the patch? Was it obvious or do you have to look closely?

You have to look close under a light or something.It doesn't seem to affect playback, I just thought it was odd.

[mahjongmaniac]

Price has yoyo to sale $13, reg $15. That +R orange is so pretty. FUGLY on that -R red.


what's wrong w/ the red 1s? :P

[burnaby]

Not a Ferrari red, more like a Cavalier red, rather have purple. Did I mention that Orange is pretty.
what's wrong w/ the red 1s? :P

[mahjongmaniac]

Did I mention that Orange is pretty.

yes u most certainly did :lol: