Crawford turfed in Vancouver . . Quinn for Crawford coaching swap ?

[wpooh888]

TSN Link (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=163847&hubname=)

[Bargain_Junkie]

Breaking News: The Canucks have just fired Marc Crawford.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=163847&hubname=

Craw's had problems with players this year and i'm glad he's gone.

So who'll be the next Canucks head coach?

Pat Quinn?
Ted Nolan?
Paul Maurice?
Brent Sutter?
Andy Murray?

I wonder what other changes are ahead?

[Bargain_Junkie]

:mad:
i made this thread before you

[Headhunter]

I'd be shocked if Quinn didn't return to Vancouver.

[tinythetiger]

TSN Link (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=163847&hubname=)
quinn going to vancouver- likely
crawford going to toronto- highly unlikely... paul maurice probably has hte edge here

[SergesPlace]

I'd be shocked if Quinn didn't return to Vancouver.
But do you think as coach? I think he's going upstairs

[najibs]

Crawford as coach of the Maple Leafs and Quinn coachin the Canucks. I'm willing to bet my left testicle, this will be what will happen...

[najibs]

Bring the Crowe to T.Dot!

[Shaner]

The Canucks made a huge mistake by getting rid of Brian Burke. They responded with emotion after being beat out by Calgary in the first round, instead of waiting until the playoffs were over and thinking about what they needed to do.

Burke turned that team around and wasn't far off from winning a cup. They were without Bertuzzi, who was the most dominant player in the league that year, and they lost by one goal to a team that damn near won the Stanley Cup.

Now that Brian Burke is gone, look what happens. They should beg him to come back.

[aZn_Popcorn]

ya i think the leafs may sign Crawford

[SergesPlace]

ya i think the leafs may sign Crawford
Paul Maurice is the new Leafs coach. It will be announced soon enough.

[babyboy06]

are you high? :)
crawford benched gretzky on a shoot out at the olympic's or something. i remember watching that - i could never invest faith in him again.

[Shaner]

Paul Maurice is the new Leafs coach. It will be announced soon enough.

Did you hear what Leafs management said about the next Leafs coach, they said "Rookies need not apply." They said they were going with a proven, experienced coach.

Now, Paul Maurice isn't a rookie, but he's not overly experienced nor has he proven himself. Crawford is a proven winner and very experienced.

I think it's going to be Crawford. He fits the Leafs style more than Maurice. Maurice likes to play the trap, whereas Crawford likes a fast paced, high scoring game.

[SergesPlace]

Did you hear what Leafs management said about the next Leafs coach, they said "Rookies need not apply." They said they were going with a proven, experienced coach.

Now, Paul Maurice isn't a rookie, but he's not overly experienced nor has he proven himself. Crawford is a proven winner and very experienced.

I think it's going to be Crawford. He fits the Leafs style more than Maurice. Maurice likes to play the trap, whereas Crawford likes a fast paced, high scoring game.
Well, this definitley throws a big curve ball now that Crawford is a possibility but i think Junior really likes Maurice and he's a very good coach. I'd be really surprised if they didn't sign him. I think Crawford's price would be way too high. Don't you think?

[Shaner]

Well, this definitley throws a big curve ball now that Crawford is a possibility but i think Junior really likes Maurice and he's a very good coach. I'd be really surprised if they didn't sign him. I think Crawford's price would be way too high. Don't you think?

Nah, Crawford hasn't won much in quite a few years now. He won't get all that much. Besides, his salary won't count against the cap so what does MLSE care. They'll pay whatever, if there's any team that can afford to overpay for a coach, it's the Leafs.

[north77]

I think the Leafs would do well to go with Maurice. He's familiar with the young talent in the Marlie club and has done a marvelous job developing them. I think many of these young guys would come up (i.e. Suglobov, Williams, Bell, White), and we'd save on cap space and be able to sign a few big names.

I think the Canucks will sign Quinn, or make an effort to grab Maurice.

[TechRock]

quinn is so going to van

[SergesPlace]

I think the Leafs would do well to go with Maurice. He's familiar with the young talent in the Marlie club and has done a marvelous job developing them. I think many of these young guys would come up (i.e. Suglobov, Williams, Bell, White), and we'd save on cap space and be able to sign a few big names.

I think the Canucks will sign Quinn, or make an effort to grab Maurice.
Yea, i think Maurice would be a better fit for the Leafs.

[NDman]

:mad:
i made this thread before you
What the hell are you talking about?

[`McGillicutty`]

Players have more respect for Paul Maurice than they have for Mark Crawford. We need Paul.

[Rometiklan]

I might be wrong, but I don't think Quinn wants to come back to Vancouver. I don't know if he wants to serve under another rookie GM, and it would be very difficult for Quinn to be in a situation where he isn't completely holdiing the reigns. On the other hand, Nonis is trying to make his mark on this team, so does he want a coach who will be challenging every GM decision he makes, considering how much GM experience Quinn has? There's no doubt in my mind if the Canucks hire Quinn, who the alpha male would be in that organization. But then again, the new part-owner of the Canucks, Francesco Aquilini is a local businessman, and he may be a big fan of Quinn and may pursue his services. Time will tell.

As for Crawford, I can't say I'm surprised about his firing. He's a tough competitor, but I have some issues with his methodology. His post-game interviews have got to be the dryest of any of the 30 coaches, and I hate how he calls out certain players night after night, especially Morrison, but he gives Bertuzzi and Naslund free passes for their lazy play. Sure it's okay to make players accountable, but why continually harp on certain players? Why was Morrison his favourite whipping boy? It's a new NHL when coaches like Andy Murray (9 games over .500) and Crawford (10 games over .500) are fired.

[NDman]

Question is, will the Canucks brass be interested in bringing Quinn back as a coach? You can draw some sort of parallel between the Leafs and Canucks failure this season. It was about veterans, and distractions. Quinn already showed that his style, with a veteran team, couldn't really cope with the new NHL. Unless the Canucks do some house-cleaning to their roster, I think it'll be a bad idea to have Quinn as a coach.

I always like Crawford though

[spike-spiegel]

Crawford's good coaching lasts about a few years. Especially after hitting high success. He's pretty hot-headed, not really fitted for a young Leafs team.

He'll find a job somewhere that wants a fiery coach. Maybe Philly will fire Hitchcock after this blunder of a series against Buffalo.

[Irb]

Quinn very well could end up back in Vancouver as that's his full time residence.

[game]

bye bye Crawford and stay away Quinn (been here done that). Canucks should make play for Sutter as coach and then unload Bertuzzi to the Leafs (who else would be stupid enough to pick up the floater). Then use extra cash and pick up
a couple of mid level speedy free agents (hello Daniel Briere).

[Geese_Howard]

Quinn > Crow

in 7+ years with the nucks I think vancouver has only made it past the 1st round once.

[mallik]

Quinn > Crow

in 7+ years with the nucks I think vancouver has only made it past the 1st round once.

Yeah, but Crawford didn't have the benefit of facing the Senators every year. ;)

[NDman]

Yeah, but Crawford didn't have the benefit of facing the Senators every year. ;)
Kind of low, but absolutely funny :cheesygri

[rdtx2002]

Did you hear what Leafs management said about the next Leafs coach, they said "Rookies need not apply." They said they were going with a proven, experienced coach.

Now, Paul Maurice isn't a rookie, but he's not overly experienced nor has he proven himself. Crawford is a proven winner and very experienced.

I think it's going to be Crawford. He fits the Leafs style more than Maurice. Maurice likes to play the trap, whereas Crawford likes a fast paced, high scoring game.

took the woeful Canes to the Cup Finals.. that is experience enough imo.

and i don't see Crawford as a JFJ kind of guy

[sonick]

They responded with emotion after being beat out by Calgary in the first round, instead of waiting until the playoffs were over and thinking about what they needed to do.

Burke turned that team around and wasn't far off from winning a cup. They were without Bertuzzi, who was the most dominant player in the league that year, and they lost by one goal to a team that damn near won the Stanley Cup.
Quite the contrary, although Burke did build up the team, he was was also mere days away from blowing apart the core of the team after they lost to the Flames. The owners didn't want that to happen, so they got rid of him.

[Evil Baby]

Quite the contrary, although Burke did build up the team, he was was also mere days away from blowing apart the core of the team after they lost to the Flames. The owners didn't want that to happen, so they got rid of him.


I wonder how that worked out for them....


haha

[GR8oNE]

Hrudey/Maclean brought up a good point (if it's true ;)) that half of the Canucks ownership is still there that fired Quinn way back when, so he might not be their first choice... I also agree with some of the other posts about saying how Quinn wouldn't wanna deal with a rookie GM again, etc. I could see Quinn returning to Vancouver as management, but not as coach...

A bit off topic, and maybe there was already a thread on the topic, but apparently Bobby Clarke thought the Quinn firing was stupid and that MLSE didn't handle it properly, etc. (using plenty of expletives along the way ;)) -- I think it was in the Sun... saw a post about it on another forum. If things continue between Sabres-v-Flyers, maybe Quinn goes to Philly haha (btw, Quinn coached Clarke a while back ago with the Flyers, i think)

EDIT: here's a link to the Bobby Clarke interview... http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=163915

[mpt]

I dont want Quinn back, I don't think he'd come back with Nonis as GM. Nonis' first decision this off season should have been to fire himself. Tambellini should have gotten the GM job. It's Nonis' fault the team failed to make the playoffs. Last summer he said that defense and goaltending were the two areas needing improvement, so he signed park and carter (great acquisitions IMHO) however it didn't address the concerns, and got rid of sopel and signed two bums (butenschon and mccarthy - however its spelt). At the end of the summer canucks were worse on defense than before. That was the downfall.

Sure the players are really to blame but Nonis needs to take responability for his screw ups.

If anything, I think Alain Vigneault would do a decent job as the Canucks rebuild.

[Rometiklan]

Hrudey/Maclean brought up a good point (if it's true ;)) that half of the Canucks ownership is still there that fired Quinn way back when, so he might not be their first choice... I also agree with some of the other posts about saying how Quinn wouldn't wanna deal with a rookie GM again, etc. I could see Quinn returning to Vancouver as management, but not as coach...

A bit off topic, and maybe there was already a thread on the topic, but apparently Bobby Clarke thought the Quinn firing was stupid and that MLSE didn't handle it properly, etc. (using plenty of expletives along the way ;)) -- I think it was in the Sun... saw a post about it on another forum. If things continue between Sabres-v-Flyers, maybe Quinn goes to Philly haha (btw, Quinn coached Clarke a while back ago with the Flyers, i think)

HahA! It's kind of funny how there's talk about Quinn going back to his old stomping grounds like Vancouver or Philadelphia. I hear LA is looking for a new coach...how about Quinn going back there too? I guess if you've been around long enough like Quinn has, what's old is new again...or what goes around, comes around.

That's a good point about ownership not wanting Quinn back since they fired him in the first place.

On a side note, Quinn was coach of the Flyers when they established the NHL's longest undefeated streak at 35 games in 1979-1980.

[Shaner]

Quite the contrary, although Burke did build up the team, he was was also mere days away from blowing apart the core of the team after they lost to the Flames. The owners didn't want that to happen, so they got rid of him.

Pure speculation, nothing more. Burke did say changes needed to be made and he was right. There were some people on Vancouver who were just along for the ride, they weren't contributing. Burke is a smart, successful guy. The Canucks should have kept him. He did after all turn that team around. They were a joke for 5 years before he came around.

[Bargain_Junkie]

I'd like to see Quinn back as the coach or VP. I'd like to see Quinn or Sutter as the Canucks coach next year.

On another note I heard Ken Hitchcock will be fired if the Flyers lose in the first round and Hitchcock could land the Canucks job.

[Shaner]

I'd like to see Quinn back as the coach or VP. I'd like to see Quinn or Sutter as the Canucks coach next year.

On another note I heard Ken Hitchcock will be fired if the Flyers lose in the first round and Hitchcock could land the Canucks job.

I wish the Leafs could get Hitchcock. He is a great coach who pays close attention to detail. Quinn doesn't even know what the word detail means.