vigilante? guy killed 2 child molesters

[UrbanPoet]

vigilante?!
Spark notes.
Guy wanted for killing 2 sex offenders.
Guy is caught in a stand off with police. He commits suicide in front of them.
Sparks debate whether to sex offender registery should have full names and addresses of offenders.


A Canadian man wanted in connection with the deaths of two registered sex offenders in Maine is dead after police in that state caught up with him.

Maine authorities said 20-year-old Stephen Marshall, from Cape Breton, shot himself in the head with a .45 calibre handgun after Boston police officers cornered him on a bus Sunday.

Cops stopped the vehicle and climbed on board.

"Several second later the officers heard a gun shot," said David Procopio, spokesman for the Suffolk district attorney.

Marshall was rushed to hospital but succumbed to his massive head injuries.

Investigators had been looking for the 20-year-old after finding the bodies of Maine men Joseph Gray, 57, of Milo, and William Elliott, 24, of Corinth.

Both individuals, registered sex offenders in the state, had been fatally shot – their bodies were discovered Sunday morning.

Marshall was reportedly seen leaving the home of one of the victims in a pick-up truck belonging to his father. It’s not clear at this point whether there’s any connection between Marshall and the two men.

Marshall had gone to Maine for the first time to meet his dad, who lives there.

State police warned Boston authorities that Marshall could be heading their way after the vehicle was found abandoned.

Police discovered bullets linked to him in the bathroom at a bus station in Bangor.

No one else on the bus was injured when Marshall took his own life, Procopio said, but five passengers sitting nearby were taken to area hospitals to be checked out.

The killings prompted police to take down the Maine Sex Offender Registry as a precaution – it lists the photos, names and addresses of more than 2,000 registered sex offenders.

http://www.pulse24.com/News/Top_Story/20060417-003/page.asp

[danfromwaterloo]

Vigilante to others. Hero to those families.

[UrbanPoet]

Weird.. im reading this story, and for some reason im wondering what the background behind this guy is...

was he just a total whack job that thought he could be super man?
Or did he get abused as a child and wanted revenge.

Weird...

[Rehan]

No one else on the bus was injured when Marshall took his own life, Procopio said, but five passengers sitting nearby were taken to area hospitals to be checked out.
http://www.statesboroherald.net/showstory.php?$recordID=5887 has a de-sanitized version of that info:
No one else on the bus was injured, Procopio said, but five passengers who were splattered with blood were taken to area hospitals to be examined.
Gross.

[Blunt]

Maybe he found out his dad was a sex-offender and decide to off him and his other sex-offender friend.


3 birds with one stone?

[UrbanPoet]

i read the article rehan posted.. and apparently the same thng happened last summer

[dmatthew]

while it may not be the best way to handle the situation
this guy sure knew how to take care of business

i'm sure the families of those affected by the sex offenders are somewhat grateful

[w4rrior]

i say those two molestors got what they deserved, but of course, killing shouldnt be the answer. tough decision on whether this guy should've been punished, too bad hes dead, he woulda been a hero to most people anyways. I think he should get a very light sentence if he were to be convicted.

[Crotchety Old Man]

Would you really like to live in a society which practices frontier justice?

"Hey! I think you did somebody wrong" - so I act as judge, jury, and executioner. "Oops, I made a mistake - oh well, I got lots more executions to get to today".

Personally, I think I'll stick with our current justice system, even if it does fail occasionally.

[rfdrfd]

Vigilante to others. Hero to those families.

Very true.

I don't have kids, but if I did, I'd probably won't feel to bad for the 2 deaths of the sex offenders.

So everyone who's commenting, imagine if your daughter or son got molested, probably messed up their minds for the rest of their lives. Perhaps our comments will be a little different?

Yes, its not a proper way of dealing with criminals, but if someone molested ones daughter, one would probably do extreme things to stop that guy from doing it again.

[Crotchety Old Man]

Very true.

I don't have kids, but if I did, I'd probably won't feel to bad for the 2 deaths of the sex offenders.

So everyone who's commenting, imagine if your daughter or son got molested, probably messed up their minds for the rest of their lives. Perhaps our comments will be a little different?

Yes, its not a proper way of dealing with criminals, but if someone molested ones daughter, one would probably do extreme things to stop that guy from doing it again.
What if your child was mistakenly killed by a vigilante?

[Blunt]

What if the vigilante was mistakenly killed by the child?

[rfdrfd]

Maybe I'm reading the story wrong.

Was a child present at this shooting?


Oh, or u mean they shot them DURING the act ?

[mattpiloto]

Would you really like to live in a society which practices frontier justice?

"Hey! I think you did somebody wrong" - so I act as judge, jury, and executioner. "Oops, I made a mistake - oh well, I got lots more executions to get to today".

Personally, I think I'll stick with our current justice system, even if it does fail occasionally.

I would prefer a balance between the two. Our current "justice" system has failed on a grand scale, and the criminal has become the victim. A vigilante system, although it sounds nice, would be just a little to extreme. It would become nearly impossible to sort the good killings from the bad. A system which holds criminals accountable for their actions and gives the victim the opportunity to defend themselves would be ideal.

[CodecX81]

Would you really like to live in a society which practices frontier justice?

No, but I would like one that favors the victim over the criminal.
We've become too tame in comparison to our European counterparts.

[Bullseye]

An eye for an eye reduces the vigilante down to the same level as the criminal. If we want a civil society, vigilante-ism can not be tolerated. The justice system is not perfect, but this is not the answer.

[UrbanPoet]

I dont support random killing of criminals. I do however support them being locked up for an appropiate time...
none of that "few months in the yard then some probabtion after beating up a liquor store owner for a tray of cash" type of gig that is all too common up here.

Im just curious as to what led someone to something that seemed to dramatic.
Ive read another case on a vigilante that killed 2 sex offenders, but lived to testify in court....
apparently he got some sympathy from the judges. He was sexually abused as a child.

[Shaner]

My opinion is this.
I am against vigilante justice and would never support such a system.
With that said, I feel absolutely no remorse for the two sex offenders in this case. In my eyes, society is better off with them dead so I couldn't care less. It doesn't mean I agree with the killing of sex offenders though.

[divx]

heh, looks like people are finally agreeing with me on this forum, killing is fine if it can be justified. i thought most people were pro-life thumpers before, it's all good now. :)

[Shaner]

http://www.statesboroherald.net/showstory.php?$recordID=5887 has a de-sanitized version of that info:

Gross.

You think just being sprayed with blood is gross, a guy I work with got sprayed with blood from a guy who has full blown AIDS and Hep C.

Now that's gross.

[cheeseshredder]

Some of you guys here are so against child molestors that you hate them more than killers. :|

[divx]

Some of you guys here are so against child molestors that you hate them more than killers. :|
na, killers are more evil than any other criminal

[UrbanPoet]

Some of you guys here are so against child molestors that you hate them more than killers. :|

pyschological affects stay with the kids forever.
Imagine if your uncle tore you a new ass hole when you were 6... would you ever live life the same after that?

[Kommander_KornFlakes]

Vigilante to others. Hero to those families.

What happens if I jokingly touch the butt of a woman, do I deserve to be shot? That action can make me a sex offender, heck even wolf-whistling to a woman can make me a registered sex offender if she complains.

[emptypocket]

pyschological affects stay with the kids forever.
Imagine if your uncle tore you a new ass hole when you were 6... would you ever live life the same after that?

Better to be killed than be psychologically damaged?

[divx]

What happens if I jokingly touch the butt of a woman, do I deserve to be shot? That action can make me a sex offender, heck even wolf-whistling to a woman can make me a registered sex offender if she complains.
Yes. But then again, it all comes down to who is more loaded. A good lawyer cost money.

[fakishan]

What happens if I jokingly touch the butt of a woman, do I deserve to be shot? That action can make me a sex offender, heck even wolf-whistling to a woman can make me a registered sex offender if she complains.

yeah, you should? why would you go touch someone without their consent? or is breathing enough consent for you?

[rc51]

yeah, you should? why would you go touch someone without their consent? or is breathing enough consent for you?

How do you prove consent? Or if consent was re-tracted...women have lied about rape in the past.

[fakishan]

How do you prove consent? Or if consent was re-tracted...women have lied about rape in the past.

please don't tell me you don't know this one? You can use Dave Chapelle's Love Contract.

Seriously, it's a good idea. Might be a little ackwards to get used to at first, but this thing will save lives.

[gordholio]

An eye for an eye reduces the vigilante down to the same level as the criminal. If we want a civil society, vigilante-ism can not be tolerated. The justice system is not perfect, but this is not the answer.
The problem is that our justice system is not a justice system at all.
They slap criminals on the wrist and let them leave jail to commit more crimes.
There is little justice.

[fakishan]

The problem is that our justice system is not a justice system at all.
They slap criminals on the wrist and let them leave jail to commit more crimes.
There is little justice.

you don't know how lucky and safe you are with our current laws...until you loose them.

[Bullseye]

My opinion is this.
I am against vigilante justice and would never support such a system.
With that said, I feel absolutely no remorse for the two sex offenders in this case. In my eyes, society is better off with them dead so I couldn't care less. It doesn't mean I agree with the killing of sex offenders though.

Sorry, you can't have it both ways, morally. You can't say you don't agree with the killings, then say you're glad they happened, it's contradictory. Either you support vigilante justice, or you don't. Get off the fence.

[Bullseye]

The problem is that our justice system is not a justice system at all.
They slap criminals on the wrist and let them leave jail to commit more crimes.
There is little justice.

Common perception, but mostly untrue. Criminals getting light sentences is much more meaty for the media than ones getting long ones, it gives them something to rail about. And rail they should! But it's not the norm for that to happen.

[Amourek]

The whole legal system is f*cked up. Sexual offenders are more likely to re-offend, but instead of keeping them locked up longer or looking for *SOME* kind of solution, they let them go, then publish their names/addresses for any crackpot to look up.

[fakishan]

The whole legal system is f*cked up. Sexual offenders are more likely to re-offend, but instead of keeping them locked up longer or looking for *SOME* kind of solution, they let them go, then publish their names/addresses for any crackpot to look up.

and you're saying this is not effective? :lol:

officialy, the goverment cannot execude them...but if some good samaritan was to....we might be lenient on his sentencing too. after all, we are known to givel ight sentences to criminals :lol:

(just kidding)

[cheeseshredder]

pyschological affects stay with the kids forever.
Imagine if your uncle tore you a new ass hole when you were 6... would you ever live life the same after that?

Someone being killed would arguably have more of an effect on people's lives, plus someone's life is taken away.

[Shaner]

Sorry, you can't have it both ways, morally. You can't say you don't agree with the killings, then say you're glad they happened, it's contradictory. Either you support vigilante justice, or you don't. Get off the fence.

Actually I can have it both ways.
I don't want people to go around killing sex offenders, as I don't agree with that kind of a system. But if it does happen, I'm not going to lose any sleep. I really could care less if every sex offender on earth gets killed. If it happens, so be it, but I won't be sitting here hoping for it to happen.

[ballz]

Give this man a medal behind bars.

[cyberknight]

as long as the killers kill the killers, it's okay. just keep the innocent out of it. i'm sure most of us don't lose that much sleep when we hear gangsters killing each other over turf wars.

[Casanova]

Actually I can have it both ways.
I don't want people to go around killing sex offenders, as I don't agree with that kind of a system. But if it does happen, I'm not going to lose any sleep. I really could care less if every sex offender on earth gets killed. If it happens, so be it, but I won't be sitting here hoping for it to happen.


I agree!

[Emancipated]

i read the article rehan posted.. and apparently the same thng happened last summer


So he came back from the dead and shot two more molesters than shot himsefl again only to resurrect at a later time?

[Emancipated]

Actually I can have it both ways.
I don't want people to go around killing sex offenders, as I don't agree with that kind of a system. But if it does happen, I'm not going to lose any sleep. I really could care less if every sex offender on earth gets killed. If it happens, so be it, but I won't be sitting here hoping for it to happen.


Shouldn't you make the distinction between sex offender and child molester? I don't think some guy who had sex with a girl only to find out later she reported it as rape because she's no longer drunk is at all justified punishment. What do you think?

[UrbanPoet]

So he came back from the dead and shot two more molesters than shot himsefl again only to resurrect at a later time?

I never said it happened last summer by the same person. REad carefully.
There was a case in the US last summer where another man killed 2 sex offenders. He told ppl in court that he was sexually abused as a child. He got the names/addresses from one of those online sex offender registries.

[Sonbuster]

whoa, he was still alive after shooting himself in the head.

[cheeseshredder]

I never said it happened last summer by the same person. REad carefully.
There was a case in the US last summer where another man killed 2 sex offenders. He told ppl in court that he was sexually abused as a child. He got the names/addresses from one of those online sex offender registries.

I wonder if there are any killers who pick out their victims randomly in a phonebook.

[Shaner]

Shouldn't you make the distinction between sex offender and child molester? I don't think some guy who had sex with a girl only to find out later she reported it as rape because she's no longer drunk is at all justified punishment. What do you think?

Well of course, but I wasn't trying to be technical in my post. I think you know what I meant.

[Crotchety Old Man]

Shouldn't you make the distinction between sex offender and child molester? I don't think some guy who had sex with a girl only to find out later she reported it as rape because she's no longer drunk is at all justified punishment. What do you think?
Let alone a "child molester" accused by his ex-wife as leverage. It's a really twisted planet sometimes. Do we really want to let vigilantes sort it out?

[Flyer]

The problem is that our justice system is not a justice system at all.
They slap criminals on the wrist and let them leave jail to commit more crimes.
There is little justice.
Exactly why we need to have stroggofication! Or at the very least, that neural reworking they do to the Terran Marines...

[Bullseye]

Actually I can have it both ways.
I don't want people to go around killing sex offenders, as I don't agree with that kind of a system. But if it does happen, I'm not going to lose any sleep. I really could care less if every sex offender on earth gets killed. If it happens, so be it, but I won't be sitting here hoping for it to happen.

So what you want is a nice tidy moral package to abide by, where you can both take the moral high ground, and also sleep well if some criminals are killed by vigilantes. Doesn't work that way, you're dodging the issue by trying to have it both ways. It is impossible to not care if all sex offenders are killed by vigilantes, but also say you don't support such a thing.

I'm not trying to pick on you, it's a common, and very human, sentiment to hold. It's the minds way of rationalizing a tough issue.

[raptorfan]

2 words..capitol punishment. Let the justice system take care of them for good. No need for vigilantes. Take care of all the murderers, sex offenders and the lot. I personally doubt there is such thing as rehabilitation. If you've taken each step further into depravity, I find it unlikely you'll wake up one day and think "wow, what i did was wrong". I'm tired of people sitting in prison with almost the same amenities as decent people ie tv, computers, books etc and the tax payer footing the bill. And then getting out to probably re-offend and put innocent people in jeopardy again. How many times do we hear the person had a history? Get rid of them, done deal. I realize this brings up innocent people in prison, and I don't know the statistics on how many there really are so I can't comment. My rant is not taking in the full scope of the situation and how to fix it but I lean towards capitol punishment for the proven without a doubt, DNA evidence provided, guilty criminal.

[kingfencer]

my question is why did he stop at 2? we may never know. This story sounds familiar, same thing happened, but it wasn't a canadian.

[bionicbadger]

Am I missing something? I see nothing in the story about "child molesting". All I see is sex offender, that doesn't equal child molester. Where did the "child molester" thing come from? :confused:

[Shook1s]

Either way ... this kid should get a medal of honor.

He spit in the face of the broken justice system and should be heralded rather than looked down upon.

[Bullseye]

Either way ... this kid should get a medal of honor.

He spit in the face of the broken justice system and should be heralded rather than looked down upon.

He's a murderer, I have no respect at all for him. If his beef was with the justice system, he should have fought to change it, that's what civilized people do. In doing that, he is no better than the criminals he killed.

[Shook1s]

He's a murderer, I have no respect at all for him. If his beef was with the justice system, he should have fought to change it, that's what civilized people do. In doing that, he is no better than the criminals he killed.


Tell me he didn't open anyones eyes.

He is a murderer yes. .. if he didnt smoke himself he did deserve time, but that is not an issue any more.

YOu are telling me that you believe that we keep a registry of sex offenders because they are "rehabilitated" and/or "no longer a threat"????

One wacko takes out another. Guess what ... thats two wackos I don't have to worry about anymore.

[chococrazy]

Investigators had been looking for the 20-year-old after finding the bodies of Maine men Joseph Gray, 57, of Milo, and William Elliott, 24, of Corinth.
I actually went on the registry site to find out information on these two individuals and their crimes....

Joseph Gray:
Statute: Indecent Assault And Battery On A Child Under 14
Statute: Rape Of A Child

William Elliott:
Offense: Sexual abuse of minor

[rfdrfd]

Excellent comments on both sides of the argument.

I'll throw this question out there, because I think realistically, whether you support this action or not, doesn't matter. Because:

Can we actually STOP vigilantes ??


Does the Police know ahead of time who's going go out and kill someone they don't think deserves to live?


So no matter what we all agree on, bottom line in real life is, our ability and chances of stopping vigilantes is just as good as stopping sex offenders in the first place.

[Shook1s]

Try this one on for size.

Dude is a known child molester, you see someone pounding the crap out of them ... are you gonna run and tell someone???

We need a few more of these to happen before the police stand up and take charge. They need to be proactive and monitor these offenders to ensure our safety.

Like I said ... a vigilante takes on out. Now I don't have to worry about that guy.

If somone licks off the vigilante ... meh ... he was a killer anyway.

[Crotchety Old Man]

Try this one on for size.

Dude is a known child molester, you see someone pounding the crap out of them ... are you gonna run and tell someone???

We need a few more of these to happen before the police stand up and take charge. They need to be proactive and monitor these offenders to ensure our safety.

Like I said ... a vigilante takes on out. Now I don't have to worry about that guy.

If somone licks off the vigilante ... meh ... he was a killer anyway.
Try this one on for size.

Shook1s looks just like a known child molester, you see someone pounding the crap out of him ... are you gonna run and tell someone???

We need a few more of these to happen before the police stand up and take charge. They need to be proactive and monitor these offenders to ensure our safety.

Like I said ... a vigilante takes on out. Now I don't have to worry about Shook1s.

If somone licks off the vigilante ... meh ... he was a killer anyway.

[chococrazy]

I don't agree with vigilante killings. To me, any violent action is wrong.

At the same time, I'm not going to mourn their deaths. These men were responsible for their actions... if they had not assaulted minors, they would not have found themselves in this situation.

[Shook1s]

Try this one on for size.

Shook1s looks just like a known child molester, you see someone pounding the crap out of him ... are you gonna run and tell someone???

We need a few more of these to happen before the police stand up and take charge. They need to be proactive and monitor these offenders to ensure our safety.

Like I said ... a vigilante takes on out. Now I don't have to worry about Shook1s.

If somone licks off the vigilante ... meh ... he was a killer anyway.

Don't use my name ... that sounds more like the description of a Crotchety Old Man

Look at the next post ... whats so different about what he said.

Sure killing somone is obviously wrong, but does anyone mourn the deaths of a child molester?

Maybe some Crochety Old dudes do?

[gsrrr]

I actually went on the registry site to find out information on these two individuals and their crimes....

William Elliott:
Offense: Sexual abuse of minor


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060418.wxmarshall18/BNStory/National/home
Mr. Elliott was convicted of having sex with a girl under the legal age. Maine's age of consent is 16.

However, Mr. Elliott's father said the girl in question was 17. She and William Elliott, who was 20 at the time, were dating, Wayne Elliott said. "They had consensual sex and she told her father and he made a big problem for them.

"He had to register for 10 years. Now he won't be able to. So, he [the girl's father] will be happy now."


Not that I approve of such a relationship...
But if the relationship was indeed consensual, and it had occurred in Canada, it would not have been a crime. Age of consent in Canada is 14.

[Crotchety Old Man]

Sure killing somone is obviously wrong, but does anyone mourn the deaths of a child molester?

Does anyone mourn the death of an innocent person mistaken for a child molester?

[Byrns]

Sure killing somone is obviously wrong, but does anyone mourn the deaths of a child molester?



Either way ... this kid should get a medal of honor.

He spit in the face of the broken justice system and should be heralded rather than looked down upon.


Murder is wrong, and anyone who thinks otherwise, praising the murderer, has no moral compass, and needs help.

[cheeseshredder]

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060418.wxmarshall18/BNStory/National/home


Not that I approve of such a relationship...
But if the relationship was indeed consensual, and it had occurred in Canada, it would not have been a crime. Age of consent in Canada is 14.

If this was indeed consensual, then the guy got killed for nothing. The problem here is that all you vigilante supporters just assume that these sex offenders are the scum of mankind.

Just because you feel absolute hatred for these individuals doesn't mean that murder is justified.

How would you feel if you were living in a country where the general consensus is against pornography. Say you got caught and had to be listed in a registry...and since the people of this country are so against pornography, a vigilante decides to murder you.

It seems to me that you guys automatically label sex offenders as cold hearted people with no remorse. No one is considering that they could be trying to get rid of their problem, only labelled as such under a stupid law, or perhaps even falsely convicted.

[fakishan]

It seems to me that you guys automatically label sex offenders as cold hearted people with no remorse. No one is considering that they could be trying to get rid of their problem, only labelled as such under a stupid law, or perhaps even falsely convicted.

You don't understand, these guys are savages. They should be living in Afghanistan under the Taliban, and they'll love it.

They can delude themselves into thinking that killing someone through vigilante action or through state execution is more humane/civilized than chopping off their heads on the streets in public.

They just want blood, not justice, that's all, it's normal, they're human. They just conveniently forget it from time to time when they want to pass judgment on others.

[Bullseye]

So the truth comes out, one of the men killed was a guy who was 20 and had sex with a 16/17 year old. Most reasonable people would surely not consider this a serious offence, most definitely not one deserving of death at the hands of a misguided revenge killer.

I bet all you vigilante supporters are feeling pretty stupid right about now.

[relativity]

as long as the killers kill the killers, it's okay. just keep the innocent out of it. i'm sure most of us don't lose that much sleep when we hear gangsters killing each other over turf wars.

The only problem is that sometimes an innocent bystander may get hit by one of their bullets while they're having a gunfight near a parking lot or something.

Regarding this issue, it's a tough one...

I'm sure some sex offenders have learnt their lesson and have changed, and (probably a lot more than the former) have gone on to repeat their crimes, but how are you supposed to know?

I don't have any kids, but I think my perspective of this will change when I do have them some day. If (God forbid) one of my kids were assaulted in such a way, I would be tempted to seek the harshest punishment permissible by law.

[rc51]

Either way ... this kid should get a medal of honor.

He spit in the face of the broken justice system and should be heralded rather than looked down upon.


He's a coward cuz he killed himself..he didn't want to be held accountable for his actions. He took the easy way out..now if he did this and was still around to 'tell' his side of the story then maybe....

[cheeseshredder]

So the truth comes out, one of the men killed was a guy who was 20 and had sex with a 16/17 year old. Most reasonable people would surely not consider this a serious offence, most definitely not one deserving of death at the hands of a misguided revenge killer.

I bet all you vigilante supporters are feeling pretty stupid right about now.

Funny how everyone is ignoring this fact eh?

[FastFokker]

Cape Breton is a beautiful part of Nova Scotia, but in my opinion it can also produce some pretty wacky people.So the truth comes out, one of the men killed was a guy who was 20 and had sex with a 16/17 year old. Most reasonable people would surely not consider this a serious offence, most definitely not one deserving of death at the hands of a misguided revenge killer.Quoting, because I don't want to ignore it.. even though if it hadn't been a 16/17 year old, I don't see any justification in the killing.

I didn't bother reading most of this thread, as I knew the type of people on this board who would flock to this thread and cheer in the death of sex offenders.

[wali]

Why he killed himself when police caught up with him?

Either the justice system is going to fix its inability to prosecute child molesters or we're going to have more of these vigilantism... Child molesters have no business being free, and child killers like Homolka needs to be hanged in a public square!

[Bullseye]

Why he killed himself when police caught up with him?

Either the justice system is going to fix its inability to prosecute child molesters or we're going to have more of these vigilantism... Child molesters have no business being free, and child killers like Homolka needs to be hanged in a public square!

And what are you doing to effect change in the justice system? Have you written your MP? Started a letter campaign? Anything at all besides complain on an unrelated forum?

I doubt you'll get anywhere with your public hanging idea, though, I think most civilized people would not want us to be reduced down to the criminals level by doing such a thing.

[Crotchety Old Man]

CTV reports on the content of the Vigilante's Blog (http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060421/marshall_blog_060421/20060421?hub=Canada).

Witness the new face of justice:

Under Marshall's list of favourite websites, one link included a guide on "How to spot a pedophile."

He had also posted a list of 10 suicide methods in "How to kill yourself like a man," as well as a link to a website with some 3,000 photos of firearms he called "the sweetist (sic) pics of weapons that you can find anywhere."

Perhaps even more enlightening are his lists of "likes" and "dislikes."

The "likes" include food, chicks, maple syrup, Canadians, hockey, porn as well as home and "your mom," The Globe reports.

The "dislikes" include law enforcement, "drag queens," "gays" and "minorities getting special treatment." He also wrote that he disliked "loudmouths, society, the media, cancer, women in general and rich people."

At the bottom of Marshall's home page, he appealed to readers to "Please email me, I'm lonely."

Sadly, he doesn't sound much different than some of the younger participants in this forum.

[poedua]

Murder is wrong, and anyone who thinks otherwise, praising the murderer, has no moral compass, and needs help.

Agreed. In all cases and particualrly when it involves the death of an innocent person - whether an innocent person is murdered at the hands of a disturbed man from the east coast or an innocent person is murdered at the hands of a terrorist.

Murder is wrong

[UrbanPoet]

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Witness the new face of justice:



Sadly, he doesn't sound much different than some of the younger participants in this forum.

this guy is a whack job. :|
He probably woulda killed me since im a Minority that wants to be a cop.. and if i did become one he probably thought i got the job b/c of my race rather then merit >_<

[galanz]

I bet all you vigilante supporters are feeling pretty stupid right about now.

I wouldn't bet on it.

Edit,

Although it does appear that they've wisely decided to quit posting after hearing a couple of facts.

[masterhapposai]

So the truth comes out, one of the men killed was a guy who was 20 and had sex with a 16/17 year old. Most reasonable people would surely not consider this a serious offence, most definitely not one deserving of death at the hands of a misguided revenge killer.

I bet all you vigilante supporters are feeling pretty stupid right about now.

I fail to understand why you don't seem to understand.

There's real pedophiles released on the street, and police give general locations at times. They've only given warnings about the ones that have admitted to the crimes and are actually guilty.

Anyone that's sane wouldn't bother with some stupid list, they'd just follow the news and get the right person every time.

This kid wanted to kill himself from the get go, and obviously has mental issues. He couldn't clearly distinguish a list from actual predators.

[fakishan]

This kid wanted to kill himself from the get go, and obviously has mental issues. He couldn't clearly distinguish a list from actual predators.

yes, CLEARLY, mr. telepath :rolleyes:

[cheeseshredder]

I fail to understand why you don't seem to understand.

There's real pedophiles released on the street, and police give general locations at times. They've only given warnings about the ones that have admitted to the crimes and are actually guilty.

Anyone that's sane wouldn't bother with some stupid list, they'd just follow the news and get the right person every time.

This kid wanted to kill himself from the get go, and obviously has mental issues. He couldn't clearly distinguish a list from actual predators.

Does that matter? It's just funny how everyone was saying things like "Sick bastard deserved it" "No sympathy for the child molester" Then we find out that the victim was a guy who was dating someone a few years younger.

It's as if some people lose all logic when they hear a sex offender gets killed because they just assume that the sex offender is the scum of Earth. (only considering the worst case scenario).

From the article up there, that guy sounds like a wackjob.

[fakishan]

It's as if some people lose all logic when they hear a sex offender gets killed because they just assume that the sex offender is the scum of Earth.
Maybe all these people have been molested and know first had of the horror?

[masterhapposai]

Maybe all these people have been molested and know first had of the horror?

Oh yeah, that makes sense now doesn't it.

yes, CLEARLY, mr. telepath :rolleyes:

Why don't you try reading the thread you're replying to every few seconds? It might just help you next time! :D

The information is all here.

[masterhapposai]

Does that matter? It's just funny how everyone was saying things like "Sick bastard deserved it" "No sympathy for the child molester" Then we find out that the victim was a guy who was dating someone a few years younger.

It's as if some people lose all logic when they hear a sex offender gets killed because they just assume that the sex offender is the scum of Earth. (only considering the worst case scenario).

From the article up there, that guy sounds like a wackjob.

Some ppl in the thread jumped the gun

Instead of saying "lol you guys were wrong" a bunch of you are going all apeshit thinking that you've once and for all proven that not only vigilantes are wrong, but the justice system is perfectly fine.

Send your local PM a complaint? That type of comment is a slap in the face to those who support change in law.

The reality of the matter is, the canadian government has shown recently that it protects pedophiles. Motions to change the law of consensual sex (age 14) gets denied by the judges. And there's no way to stop/change the law regarding prison time for them.

Ask shaner.

[cheeseshredder]

Some ppl in the thread jumped the gun

Instead of saying "lol you guys were wrong" a bunch of you are going all apeshit thinking that you've once and for all proven that not only vigilantes are wrong, but the justice system is perfectly fine.

Send your local PM a complaint? That type of comment is a slap in the face to those who support change in law.

The reality of the matter is, the canadian government has shown recently that it protects pedophiles. Motions to change the law of consensual sex (age 14) gets denied by the judges. And there's no way to stop/change the law regarding prison time for them.

Ask shaner.

I'm sure people don't think the justice system is perfectly fine, but why spend time arguing over it when we can't really do much. We can protest or write to our MPs, but it's limited. We all know that the justice system is unfair to victims, it doesn't need to be argued about.

[NiMSo]

So the truth comes out, one of the men killed was a guy who was 20 and had sex with a 16/17 year old. Most reasonable people would surely not consider this a serious offence, most definitely not one deserving of death at the hands of a misguided revenge killer.

I bet all you vigilante supporters are feeling pretty stupid right about now.

As this thread has shown, people tend to make assumptions and are quick to make judgement without a proper assessment of full details.

That is why vigilante justice is not a proper approach. People will think with their emotions and will act impulsively. The justice system may be imperfect as well, but at least it gives an opportunity for people to discuss all available facts and come to a more reasonable conclusion.



Violence, of any sort, should not be tolerated. The killer should not be embraced as a "hero".