Slavery in Israel

[fakishan]

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/705920.html

The abuse was not confined to withholding of payment. According to her statement, M.R. was verbally abusive toward her and humiliated her. In one case he bit her wrist. When she threatened to go to the police, he himself called the police  to complain about her. The policeman who came to the house heard them both out, asked them to work things out, and left. Afterward it turned out that previous complaints against the employer existed, including the use of violence against policemen.

The woman did not know where to turn. She had not arrived in Israel through a manpower company and did not know anyone. When the situation became utterly intolerable, she turned to a neighbor, who got her the phone number of Yaakov Lev, a Russian-speaking volunteer from Kav La'oved.

Lev took her to the Immigration Police, to file a complaint of exploitation, false incarceration, nonpayment of wages and other offenses, and he found her a job in Haifa. Last week Lev sent a letter to M.R., demanding that he pay the caregiver NIS 150,000 for her three years of work. "He kept threatening her that the moment she stopped working, she would be deported. It was only fear that made her stay there," Lev says.


Where are those who criticized Dubai? :lol:

People like M.R.  and there are many of them, it turns out  are giving Israel a bad name as a country in which trafficking in human beings for purposes of servitude exists. This stigma, if it receives official validation, is liable to make Israel a member of a very unpleasant club, and also result in international sanctions. The Justice Ministry's struggle against the phenomenon is being led by Rachel Gershuni, head of the ministry's penal section. Half a year ago she described in the Knesset the conditions that usually characterize servitude: "Work during most of the day, severance from external centers of support, refusal to return a passport, fraudulent behavior, use of force or other means of pressure, false incarceration, lack of medical care, substandard living conditions, being forced to work during illness and low payment for work.

[Casanova]

to be fair, slavery and extreme working conditions for those people are very prelevant there. The is the sex trade (they almost force women to work in that) for Russians is a huge market there.

[Casanova]

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/705920.html




Where are those who criticized Dubai? :lol:


Israel is a destination country for women trafficked for the purpose of sexual exploitation and men and women trafficked for the purpose of labor exploitation. Women from European and former Soviet countries are trafficked to Israel, often through Egypt, and sold to brothel operators, after which they are forced to work off debts through involuntary sexual servitude. Most trafficking victims for sexual exploitation originate from Uzbekistan, Moldova, Russia, Kazakhstan, and Ukraine — with Uzbekistan increasingly becoming the principal source country.

Poedua, why don't you comment on this situation as wll? seems to be alot of human rights issues here, as bad if not worse than Duabi :cheesygri

Then again, to be fair, each country has its hidden dirsty laundry.


Sex slavery rife in Israel

http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_1681087,00.html

On average the women receive $4 for every $120 that clients pay their pimps for their services.

[PrinceMS]

Fight! Fight! Fight!

*** (In Before The Lock) :p

[Zeev20]

The Sex trade industry in Israel is a travesty and something should be done about it. It is a world wide epidemic. Israel is just one of the many locations where women are brought in (Usually against their will) and forced to work in the sex trade.

They are usually promised high paying jobs and when they arrive in Israel it is to late to leave. The women are in massive debt and their pimps will do everything in their power to stop them from leaving.

I could tell you what sections of Tel-Aviv for example are full of wh**e houses. The police know about it and the public knows about it yet nothing gets done about it. No one really wants to do anything about it.

It is rumored that certain people in power are given kickbacks to prevent anything from happening. That being said Israel is not the only location with this problem, However it is serious enough that something should be done about it.

Now hopefully the Pro-Palestinian side and Pro-Israel side can agree that this is a crime and something needs to be done about it. So lets please avoid having this thread degenerate into the normal my side is better then your side thread. The kind of thread I have seen from certain posters the last few weeks.

[Casanova]

I agree with you Zeev on this issue, I am just bringing this up to Poedua to show him how hypocritical he is when he complains (numerously) about Daubai and remains mute on this. Both situations are deplorable and need to be fixed.

[keanefan]

sex slavery happens in Canada, USA, Japan, Europe.

people don't care about girls and women

you better warn your daughter about the danger of being kidnapped and forced into sex slavery because it does happen to the naive, weak and gullible

[fakishan]

you better warn your daughter about the danger of being kidnapped and forced into sex slavery because it does happen to the naive, weak and gullible
that's most young women, rich and poor.

The reason something is not being done about it is because our our community leaders make use of these services, but at the same time preach that prostitution should remain illegal because there's too much profit to be lost if it became legal and the women were able to take control of their bodies.

RECOGNIZING PROTITUION AS LEGITIMATE WORK WILL FREE DOZENS OF MILLIONS OF WOMEN. Young girls won't be forced into this life by a "pimp", only they could choose it. Existing sex slaves can keep their money and start a life with it if they choose. When shows talk to prostitues, they say that eventually hope to be freed from their pimps and buy real estate, start a business, go back to school with all the money they would have.

[poedua]

sex slavery happens in Canada, USA, Japan, Europe.

people don't care about girls and women

you better warn your daughter about the danger of being kidnapped and forced into sex slavery because it does happen to the naive, weak and gullible

I'd agree it's not limited to any one country. For example, in the UAE.....

" Despite their value to both their home countries and the societies in which they work, many migrant workers suffer from discrimination, exploitation and abuse. Migrants, including large numbers of women employed as domestic servants, face intimidation and violence, including sexual assault, at the hands of employers, supervisors, sponsors and police and security forces. Children are especially vulnerable to labor and sexual exploitation and denial of basic rights.

"Thousands of children are trafficked to the United Arab Emirates for use as beggars and camel jockeys," Mungoven said. "The World Bank can't claim to fight child labor in poor countries and then turn a blind eye when it crosses borders."

http://hrw.org/english/docs/2003/09/19/uae6388.htm

http://www.hrw.org/press/2003/04/gccuae.htm

Human Rights Watch ( HRW ) seems compelled to wade in on alleged labour abuses and abuses of children in UAE - I'd hope and expect HRW would do the exact same for allegations in any other country as well...including allegations of "slavery " in Israel.

[poedua]

Poedua, why don't you comment on this situation as wll? seems to be alot of human rights issues here, as bad if not worse than Duabi :cheesygri

Then again, to be fair, each country has its hidden dirsty laundry.


Sex slavery rife in Israel

http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_1681087,00.html

On average the women receive $4 for every $120 that clients pay their pimps for their services.

My sincerest apologies for not responding any sooner than within 4 hours of your first post on this thread addressing me....just got back from the hospital.

The OP was back on April 14th and no one has responded till today ...9 days later...perhaps that speaks for itself.

In any event, any allegations of human rights abuses - allegations of slavery included - should be immediately and aggressively investigated.

Let's hope HRW follows up on these allegations as well. :)

[Casanova]

My sincerest apologies for not responding any sooner than within 4 hours of your first post on this thread addressing me....just got back from the hospital.


sorry to hear that, hope all goes well. I am happy you responded to http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3187882#post3187882 at the same time ;)

in any event, human right abuses are a serious problem in both countries, however in this case, it invloves minors and ppl who dont come by choice, the same can't be said generally to UAE.

[fakishan]

in any event, human right abuses are a serious problem in both countries, however in this case, it invloves minors and ppl who dont come by choice, the same can't be said generally to UAE.

that's not an honest statement. :|

[poedua]

sorry to hear that, hope all goes well. I am happy you responded to http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3187882#post3187882 at the same time ;)

in any event, human right abuses are a serious problem in both countries, however in this case, it invloves minors and ppl who dont come by choice, the same can't be said generally to UAE.

Suffice it ( and sadly ) to say, allegations of human right abuses are a serious problem in ALL countries - including Canada, the U.S., Israel, China, N Korea, China, Iraq, UAE etc. etc.

That said, I'm thankful that organisations like Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International are around to both level and respond to such allegations.

[poedua]

sorry to hear that, hope all goes well. I am happy you responded to http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3187882#post3187882 at the same time ;)

in any event, human right abuses are a serious problem in both countries, however in this case, it invloves minors and ppl who dont come by choice, the same can't be said generally to UAE.

" people who come by choice "...not sure how that is relevant to "alleged" human rights abuses. Perhaps you can elaborate.

[Rehan]

poedua, I take it from your recent post history that you won't be moving to Dubai anytime soon? :rolleyes: You've already posted other places about Dubai....let's keep this thread on topic.

[poedua]

poedua, I take it from your recent post history that you won't be moving to Dubai anytime soon? :rolleyes: You've already posted other places about Dubai....let's keep this thread on topic.

It was not my intention to go " off topic " at all. Others brought Dubai up as a topic - not me.

fakishan - post #1 : made the orignal post ...HE brought up Dubai as being a relevant issue in this thread in post #1...not me. Why he brought it up in the context of Israel.....you''d have to ask him....but I assume he didn't feel it was off-topic.

casanova - post #3 : again brought Dubai and asked me - citing my name - to respond .

I first responded to the issue in post #9 - to 2 previous posts citing Dubai - with a reference to Dubai as well....since the OP felt it was relevant somehow. :)