Fake Motorola products

[staronedirect]

People,
watch out for fake motorola headsets coming from unauthorized chinese factories. visit www.alibaba.com to see many of these factories selling fake motorola, sony ericsson, and others.

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[MrWizard]

Why do we care?

[Jokez Guy]

Why do we care?

do you wanna pay full price for a pieace of crap item

[staronedirect]

its called consumer awareness.
why go and pay $50 or $60 bucks for a fake item thinking that is original?
Why do you think the HS850 has so many bad reviews? echo, low volume, bad ergonomics, person can't hear you, crap battery, etc... becuase many of the products are fake - try to only get the US or Canadian versions...
many people are fooled at buying these items and they do no guarantee the warranty.

[shivash39]

yeah yeah

they are on this site.......

[sfu_engineer]

Thanks staronedirect! I hate fake stuff too. :(

EDIT: Is http://www.alibaba.com/ a wholesale site? There's no prices listed...just contact info.

[charger]

Thanks staronedirect! I hate fake stuff too. :(

EDIT: Is http://www.alibaba.com/ a wholesale site? There's no prices listed...just contact info.


Alibaba is an online buyer and seller place for international buyer to meet etc. I am a member, but I get so much junk mail in broken english trying to sell me stuff that isn't related to my business.

[staronedirect]

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Thanks staronedirect! I hate fake stuff too. :(

EDIT: Is http://www.alibaba.com/ a wholesale site? There's no prices listed...just contact info.

The best thing is that on that site, the illegal factories will tell you that they sell the Copy of the original - why do you think they have the motorola H3 for $20 or the HS850 for $25. Also, if they were legit sellers how come motorola has authorized so many factories to sell their products? and for such a dirty cheap price.
I am going to make a short clip showing the difference between real and fake headsets so I will keep ya posted
Later!

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[HughG]

how do i know they are fake ?
i bought a h500 of here and as you said the other side cant hear me at all and i cant hear that well either.

it was in a chinese writing box.

i paid 50 bucks for it.

i ended up buying a full retail version of the hs850 and no problems.

any ideas on how to spot the fakes

[dmendes]

in some cases like the h500 its a matter of

plain chinese writing cardboard blue/orange box (probably fake)

VS

plastic clear box (real)

[Oversized Rooster]

http://images.tigerdirect.ca/skuimages/large/L420-7200.jpg

I guess I'm glad I bought my Moto HS820 from TigerDirect.ca. I know I won't get scammed from there! :)

[RonyPal]

is it me or does it seem that this is somewhat of an advertisement for www.alibaba.com

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Its a bit tricky to know if your getting the original headset but here are a few tips that you can follow to make sure your getting the Original goods:

1) Is the package opened or closed? In many cases, open packages means that they did not come from a OEM or authorized manufacturer. Do not be fooled by sellers that say that they purchased factory stocks and that is why they come opened - There is no such thing. Only authorized dealers can deal w/ the manufacturer and they get them in sealed original retail packages.

2) Are the manuals in English only? or in English and Chinese. I guarantee that any motorola headset you buy coming from China is the fake one - the grey market is too big there and it is so easy to get hands on a fake headset for $5 and sell on ebay or something for $50-$60. Thus, only buy the package w/ US or Canadian manuals only!

3) Ask the seller if the item is coming from an authorized distributor

4) inspect the material of the headset: for the HS850, the fake headsets have a crappy ear hook (in many it was stiff or too maleable).

5) Ask the seller if they give a return policy - This is the best option in order to get back your money in case the headset malfunctions on the first day!

6) Check the quality: do you get loud echo, low volume, digitized voice, battery doesn't last the 6hours talktime promised (fake products usually last 2-3 hours), disconnect problem, does not connect to your BT unit when you get a call, and many many more problems -- NO WONDER MOTOROLA has had crap reviews on all its products!

MY ADVICE TO YOU: ONLY BUY YOUR HEADSETS FROM AN AUTHORIZED US OR CANADIAN DISTRIBUTOR ( OR AT LEAST SOMEONE WHO GETS THESE ITEMS FROM AN AUTHORIZED DEALER - LIKE MYSELF!)

For example: The HS850 retails for $150cad at many retail stores ==> ANYONE WHO SELLS YOU THIS HEADSET FOR LESS THAN $70CAD IS NOT MAKING ANY MONEY WHATSOEVER! ANYONE WHO SELLS YOU THIS HEADSET FOR $50CAD IS LOSING MONEY NOT MAKING! I DEAL WITH ONE OF THE BIGGEST DISTRIBUTORS FOR MOTO IN CHICAGO AND YOU CANNOT GET THE ORIGINAL HS850 FOR LESS THAN $70CAD ANYWHERE!

SO IN THE END MY SINCERE ADVICE TO YOU IS TO BE WISE WHEN YOU PURCHASE AND KNOW THAT YOU ARE GETTING WHAT YOU ARE PROMISED. I TELL YOU IF YOU PAY $90-$100 FOR A HS850 THEN YOU ARE GETTING THE ORIGINAL - BUT PAYING $50 FOR A HEADSET THAT RETAILS FOR $150 MEANS YOU ARE TAKING A CHANCE WITH YOUR MONEY AND WILL DEFINITELY END UP WITH A HEADSET THAT WILL STOP WORKING AFTER 4 MONTHS.

REGARDS,
STARONE DIRECT

[RFDInquiery]

in some cases like the h500 its a matter of

plain chinese writing cardboard blue/orange box (probably fake)

VS

plastic clear box (real)
Dr. Joe Daoud

:arrow: :arrow: :arrowd: :arrowd:

[staronedirect]

is it me or does it seem that this is somewhat of an advertisement for www.alibaba.com

No not an advertisement, but just to let you guys know that unauthorized factories are listing their companies on that site and tons of crap products are being brought into the States and Canada claiming that they are original.

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:arrowu: .....and OP, can u please post the video u were talking about, u said u have a video to show us how to tell the difference from real and fake. And if they make fake headsets, can't they make phones too? Do you have a video for that as well?

If you don't have the video to show us fake from real, you're just causing chaos for no reason!

I said that I will be making a video and keep you guys posted on when it is done. I will be using it to try let people (esp. on ebay) what kind of quality the chinese products are made of.
I actually opened one of the fake headsets (HS850) and found that they are made of real cheap material: The wires were all stripped from any covering; the ear peice looked as if it were at least 50 years old. The the multi-function button was stuck on their as weak as can be. The silver BT logo on the headset was glued on with some cheap material - at anytime it would fling right off.

As for the phones, it is sad to say that some illegal factories are able to make the phones - I am not sure exactly how, but I guess they get defective phones and fix them up (refurbish) and send them out as brand new. Even Rogers has been selling many of their phones as new (refurbished) and that is why many phones have had problems. I guess they need to get this type as to offer such good deals on their phones as well (i.e: $49.99 for V3) even though they lock you in for 3 years - losing well of $120 / customer does not make any logical sense.
I was actually inquiring about phones from China a while ago, and a factory actual offered to sell me three types of black V3. I was surprised at what they meant about that. It turned out that they offer type 1: Motorola V3 withought bluetooth function, type 2: moto V3 second grade, type 3: moto V3 first grade. I was like what the hell? I didn't know motorola had some of their V3's w/out the BT. It turned out that this company was selling refurbished products as new!

You should see how many different fake mobile phone batteries are being sold from there! crazy

I once read a feedback from one seller on Ebay, the customer was claiming that they recieved the headset in a Ziplock bag and it had ear wax on the speaker unit! and the seller would not reply to him! crazy stuff

[LeeBoA]

thanks for hte heads up

[Paolo]

i seen fake moto and sony headsets, be ware of the boxes they come in, they arent real if the instructions are in chineese, also they come in packaging, and not paper boxes, so u know its fake by thatto

[RFDInquiery]

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I said that I will be making a video and keep you guys posted on when it is done. I will be using it to try let people (esp. on ebay) what kind of quality the chinese products are made of.
I actually opened one of the fake headsets (HS850) and found that they are made of real cheap material: The wires were all stripped from any covering; the ear peice looked as if it were at least 50 years old. The the multi-function button was stuck on their as weak as can be. The silver BT logo on the headset was glued on with some cheap material - at anytime it would fling right off.

As for the phones, it is sad to say that some illegal factories are able to make the phones - I am not sure exactly how, but I guess they get defective phones and fix them up (refurbish) and send them out as brand new. Even Rogers has been selling many of their phones as new (refurbished) and that is why many phones have had problems. I guess they need to get this type as to offer such good deals on their phones as well (i.e: $49.99 for V3) even though they lock you in for 3 years - losing well of $120 / customer does not make any logical sense.
I was actually inquiring about phones from China a while ago, and a factory actual offered to sell me three types of black V3. I was surprised at what they meant about that. It turned out that they offer type 1: Motorola V3 withought bluetooth function, type 2: moto V3 second grade, type 3: moto V3 first grade. I was like what the hell? I didn't know motorola had some of their V3's w/out the BT. It turned out that this company was selling refurbished products as new!

You should see how many different fake mobile phone batteries are being sold from there! crazy

I once read a feedback from one seller on Ebay, the customer was claiming that they recieved the headset in a Ziplock bag and it had ear wax on the speaker unit! and the seller would not reply to him! crazy stuff


Dr. Joe Daoud

Plantronics (http://cgi.ebay.com/Plantronic-Discovery-640-better-than-H500-V3-Razr-HS850_W0QQitemZ9709799785QQcategoryZ108660QQssPage NameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)...Did somebody buy too many PLANTRONICS... :lol:...and why is it all in RED and BLUE

and what's this CHINESE shyt...prolly 90% of all our shyt is made in SHYNA
Yemechish

[sfu_engineer]

Dr. Joe Daoud

Plantronics (http://cgi.ebay.com/Plantronic-Discovery-640-better-than-H500-V3-Razr-HS850_W0QQitemZ9709799785QQcategoryZ108660QQssPage NameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)...Did somebody buy too many PLANTRONICS... :lol:...and why is it all in RED and BLUE

and what's this CHINESE shyt...prolly half ur shyt is made in SHYNA
Yemechish

OMG! I didn't know the OP had an EBAY store selling BT headsets. Now this is fishy....

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People,

If I didn't sell headsets how the hell would I know between fake and original?
I did my research... It took me a few months and a couple hundred dollars down the drain to figure out that illegal factories are selling these headsets. Here is a conversation I had with a company in China through alibaba - Exactly January 30, 2006

"
cgs_beckybohong(20:34:55): hello,Mr Joe.
cgs_beckybohong(20:35:01): how are you!
staronedirect(20:35:50): I am doing great thanks
staronedirect(20:35:52): and yourself?
cgs_beckybohong(20:36:27): I am ok, you still on working.it is night,right?
staronedirect(20:37:27): yes it is 8:37pm now
cgs_beckybohong(20:39:54): how hard working you are!this is 9:39 AM for us.
staronedirect(20:40:04): hehe
cgs_beckybohong(20:40:09): the begining of our working day.
staronedirect(20:40:16): yes
cgs_beckybohong(20:40:38): I saw you want to buy bluetooth?
staronedirect(20:41:31): well I am searching for Original Bluetooth headsets not the copy versions
staronedirect(20:42:15): I previously purchased the HS850 from a company in Shenzhen and they specifically told me that they are original, but it turned out to be a copy
cgs_beckybohong(20:42:38): yes. i believe that.
cgs_beckybohong(20:42:51): most of the bluetooth is copy one
staronedirect(20:43:28): but how is that legal? because the North American market is fulled with them, and they have terrible performance
cgs_beckybohong(20:43:35): only the Moto company have original bluetooth and housing and other accessories
staronedirect(20:43:40): Alot of people are complaining that they do no
staronedirect(20:44:07): do not work properly
staronedirect(20:44:45): some people are saying that they sell the original HS850 from China
staronedirect(20:44:59): and the price is higher, like 58USD or so
staronedirect(20:45:12): while the copy versions go for about 28USD
cgs_beckybohong(20:46:18): yes.maybe they could find ,but very hard.
staronedirect(20:47:15): I am just curious, how much is the original HS850 selling in the chinese market for?
cgs_beckybohong(20:49:48): i don't know,maybe above $50
cgs_beckybohong(20:50:04): and the copy we have a better price for HS850
staronedirect(20:50:40): well yes but I guess there is a difference in quality. Do you make the HS850 on your premises?
cgs_beckybohong(20:52:06): yes. have little different. they looks like the same
cgs_beckybohong(20:52:18): what is you mean "premise:
cgs_beckybohong(20:52:29): do you mean legal permission?
staronedirect(20:52:37): do you have a factory that makes the HS850?
cgs_beckybohong(20:52:47): yes.
staronedirect(20:53:21): that was my second question: Do you have Legal permission to make these items? Does motorola or authority know about your work?
cgs_beckybohong(20:54:42): actually, they know nothing about us. .
cgs_beckybohong(20:55:11): this is why a lot of company come to china to buy goods.
cgs_beckybohong(20:55:44): we have the permission to produce bluetooth but not Nokia, Moto brand bluetooth.
staronedirect(20:55:53): ok. " - End of conversation

Motorola has AUTHORIZED factories in China that make the ORIGINAL headsets BUT only authorized dealers can have access to their products and The price difference between buying there and here (CANADA + US) is very very minimal.

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[RonyPal]

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Its a bit tricky to know if your getting the original headset but here are a few tips that you can follow to make sure your getting the Original goods:

1) Is the package opened or closed? In many cases, open packages means that they did not come from a OEM or authorized manufacturer. Do not be fooled by sellers that say that they purchased factory stocks and that is why they come opened - There is no such thing. Only authorized dealers can deal w/ the manufacturer and they get them in sealed original retail packages.

2) Are the manuals in English only? or in English and Chinese. I guarantee that any motorola headset you buy coming from China is the fake one - the grey market is too big there and it is so easy to get hands on a fake headset for $5 and sell on ebay or something for $50-$60. Thus, only buy the package w/ US or Canadian manuals only!

3) Ask the seller if the item is coming from an authorized distributor

4) inspect the material of the headset: for the HS850, the fake headsets have a crappy ear hook (in many it was stiff or too maleable).

5) Ask the seller if they give a return policy - This is the best option in order to get back your money in case the headset malfunctions on the first day!

6) Check the quality: do you get loud echo, low volume, digitized voice, battery doesn't last the 6hours talktime promised (fake products usually last 2-3 hours), disconnect problem, does not connect to your BT unit when you get a call, and many many more problems -- NO WONDER MOTOROLA has had crap reviews on all its products!

MY ADVICE TO YOU: ONLY BUY YOUR HEADSETS FROM AN AUTHORIZED US OR CANADIAN DISTRIBUTOR ( OR AT LEAST SOMEONE WHO GETS THESE ITEMS FROM AN AUTHORIZED DEALER - LIKE MYSELF!)

For example: The HS850 retails for $150cad at many retail stores ==> ANYONE WHO SELLS YOU THIS HEADSET FOR LESS THAN $70CAD IS NOT MAKING ANY MONEY WHATSOEVER! ANYONE WHO SELLS YOU THIS HEADSET FOR $50CAD IS LOSING MONEY NOT MAKING! I DEAL WITH ONE OF THE BIGGEST DISTRIBUTORS FOR MOTO IN CHICAGO AND YOU CANNOT GET THE ORIGINAL HS850 FOR LESS THAN $70CAD ANYWHERE!

SO IN THE END MY SINCERE ADVICE TO YOU IS TO BE WISE WHEN YOU PURCHASE AND KNOW THAT YOU ARE GETTING WHAT YOU ARE PROMISED. I TELL YOU IF YOU PAY $90-$100 FOR A HS850 THEN YOU ARE GETTING THE ORIGINAL - BUT PAYING $50 FOR A HEADSET THAT RETAILS FOR $150 MEANS YOU ARE TAKING A CHANCE WITH YOUR MONEY AND WILL DEFINITELY END UP WITH A HEADSET THAT WILL STOP WORKING AFTER 4 MONTHS.

REGARDS,
STARONE DIRECT

I dont mean to TC whatsoeevr, however i did find this point interesting. You do mention that anyoen selling it less than 70 is not making any money, now in yoru auction you are selling it for 75, and i am aware of ebays fees, so once ebays final value fee has been paid as well as initial listing fee has been paid, then you recieve less than 70 canadian, so are you not making any money of your auctions? just out of curiosity, want ot make sure your not contradicting yourself

[Homer88]

I dont mean to TC whatsoeevr, however i did find this point interesting. You do mention that anyoen selling it less than 70 is not making any money, now in yoru auction you are selling it for 75, and i am aware of ebays fees, so once ebays final value fee has been paid as well as initial listing fee has been paid, then you recieve less than 70 canadian, so are you not making any money of your auctions? just out of curiosity, want ot make sure your not contradicting yourself
The shipping fee looks like it covers the ebay fee so he'll be making 5 dollars profit each?

[RonyPal]

Yes, i did myself sell on ebay for some time and canada post really butchers canadian sellers as it is pricey to post with them as opposed to a US retailer

Also he is selling it on the forums for 75, so only $5 profit? thats odd, But kudos to you if you are only making that much, good rfder in that case :)

[Asun]

In spirit of RFD, why do you guys buy Motorola Bluetooth headset anyways? The logitech bluetooth headset can be had for less than $30 and works well with any cellphone.

[RonyPal]

RFD is about finding the best prices, not necessarily the cheapest device, i liek motorola headsets becuase they are more stylish than the logitech ones and i find range is better and clarity

[Hellfire]

Thanks for the heads up, ebay seems to be full of these cheap knock offs. Even the ppl who claim to ship from the US has them.

[batman321123]

is it me or does it seem that this is somewhat of an advertisement for www.alibaba.com

It's just you.

[ainsane]

is it me or does it seem that this is somewhat of an advertisement for www.alibaba.com

Yeah, it's just you. Alibaba is a MASSIVE site that wouldn't even notice if every single RFD user came on at the same time. They're number 29 on the Alexa top 500 site. Here is a graph compared with RFD. I think the red RFD graph is somwhere near the bottom axis ;)

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/7426/alibabarfd9cl.jpg

[Flux]

I bought a fake H850 off ebay, to replace the H850 i lost.

Damn thing lasted about a week before dying and being unable to recharge. OEM my ass!

Never buy OEM off ebay. Only new in original package (and even then, you never know)

[RonyPal]

LOL bump for the guy who put the graph!

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Yes I have only been making $5 profit or less - Even lost money in cases. Its because Its hard to compete with the grey market especially if the customer doesn't know what they are getting. HS850 selling for $50, what kind of joke is that. The best thing is that some send the headset in a plastic bag to their customers!

I was at a local computer shop today to buy a optical mouse. The guys shows me this logitech mouse in a plastic bag, no box or anything and wanted to sell it to me for $20 - then I noticed that the shop that I thought had good deals turned out that they don't sell anything that is sealed. All their boxes are opened or not in genuine packaging. Definitely selling cheap refurbished products claiming that their new and selling for a price like $8 cheaper than buying brand new. I am not surprised if many of his stuff is also fake products from China. Alot of stuff likeBT dongles and headsets are being sold fake and for a high price.

[sfu_engineer]

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Yes I have only been making $5 profit or less - Even lost money in cases. Its because Its hard to compete with the grey market especially if the customer doesn't know what they are getting. HS850 selling for $50, what kind of joke is that. The best thing is that some send the headset in a plastic bag to their customers!

I was at a local computer shop today to buy a optical mouse. The guys shows me this logitech mouse in a plastic bag, no box or anything and wanted to sell it to me for $20 - then I noticed that the shop that I thought had good deals turned out that they don't sell anything that is sealed. All their boxes are opened or not in genuine packaging. Definitely selling cheap refurbished products claiming that their new and selling for a price like $8 cheaper than buying brand new. I am not surprised if many of his stuff is also fake products from China. Alot of stuff likeBT dongles and headsets are being sold fake and for a high price.

I worked in a family computer store. Our suppliers, who are totally legit as my university computer store also purchases from them, sell things called OEM products that don't come with the original box or packaging. But they are still considered real products. I wouldn't worry about it too much. I normally buy OEM if I can as its just so much cheaper. But I NEVER buy OEM as a gift as there's no original box!

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Just was asked a question if there was a way to determine between fake and original headset units. The points I discuss are solely from my experience with this issue and may or may not be legit and reliable (you decide :) ):

There are a few things you can see on a headset that may make it suspicious of being fake: (this is what I have noticed)
1) almost all of the fake headsets have a clear sheet of plastic covering that is removable on the Moto logo and the Multifunction button.
2) the multifunction button is not fitted into its place correctly (very weakly placed).

3) when you open the boom, there is by default an imprint by the motorola factory - This imprint is usually consistent with every headset from motorola and has a significant pattern. Fake headsets don't have this pattern (either imprinted too weakly, to strongly) and do not have a consistency (each headset imprint doesn't look the same)
4) Fake headsets usually use crappy material, especially on the earhook that is either too weak or too rigid.
5) The bluetooth logo should be made of stainless steel, not plastic and should also be glued properly with a strong glue - not a silicone based glue that easily allows the signal to pop right off.

6) do the volume buttons function properly? When put on the right ear, the top vol. button should increase volume and the bottom should decrease - If this does the opposite, they you MAY have a fake product.

7) is the headset set up for use on your right ear or left ear when taken from the package? Motorola headsets are set by default for use with you right ear - if you get a headset set for your left ear, then you may have a fake product.

8) are the manuals in english and chinese? if the manuals are in chinese, then you have an asia headset and I am sure that 95% of the time you have a fake headset. The thing is, that it doesn't matter if motorola has their manufacturing facilities in china, their prices for the headsets are actually the same as they are in North America. So it doesn't make sense to buy an ORIGINAL headset from China (say for $130) and pay $15-$30 shipping to Canada + taxes and customs. So a customer ends up paying $170 for a headset that they can buy for $130 here in Canada.
That is why these so called factories are making headsets, it costs them less than a dollar to manufacture and they sell it abroad for $50-$60.

You should only get manuals in ENGLISH only, with US and Canadian warranty information.

Other than that, all these steps can be useful in identifying fake from real, but I cannot guarantee that if you follow this advice, that you will %100 differ the fake from original. The most important thing is to get items with US and Cad retail packaging, sealed either completely or by 2 points at the top of the package.

[RonyPal]

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Yes I have only been making $5 profit or less - Even lost money in cases. Its because Its hard to compete with the grey market especially if the customer doesn't know what they are getting. HS850 selling for $50, what kind of joke is that. The best thing is that some send the headset in a plastic bag to their customers!

I was at a local computer shop today to buy a optical mouse. The guys shows me this logitech mouse in a plastic bag, no box or anything and wanted to sell it to me for $20 - then I noticed that the shop that I thought had good deals turned out that they don't sell anything that is sealed. All their boxes are opened or not in genuine packaging. Definitely selling cheap refurbished products claiming that their new and selling for a price like $8 cheaper than buying brand new. I am not surprised if many of his stuff is also fake products from China. Alot of stuff likeBT dongles and headsets are being sold fake and for a high price.


So you go through all that trouble of listing on ebay and making the auction for a profit of less than $5? my apologies but you need to learn some new business practises then. It's one thing to offer a good deal, then theres just a waste of time.

[staronedirect]

Its something called building clientele and gaining their respect. I don't care if I sell on ebay and make a minimal profit, go see the many sellers on ebay (USA) that sell headsets and are only making $5-$8 profit. I depend on quantity through ebay, anyways I guess thats the only way you will make money on ebay. People come on ebay to find a bargain. The market is competitive, especially if you have at least 30 other sellers selling the fake version for $50

[RonyPal]

Its something called building clientele and gaining their respect. I don't care if I sell on ebay and make a minimal profit, go see the many sellers on ebay (USA) that sell headsets and are only making $5-$8 profit. I depend on quantity through ebay, anyways I guess thats the only way you will make money on ebay. People come on ebay to find a bargain. The market is competitive, especially if you have at least 30 other sellers selling the fake version for $50

I quite enjoy this banter we have, seriously becuase its' a different perspective. I respect your auctions and i used ot be a gold power seller on ebay so i like yoru setup esepcially your dialouge on the auctions pages, however if you are in fact making only 5 dollras, why be in that market at all? why sell them on ebay sell them here locally, i mean if you sell on ebay do you not find it's a waste of time? i know selling there is a big comittement, not sure how many you sell a day but when the sales are high it takes over your life, just interested in your opinion why you choose to do it for so little.

[staronedirect]

Ebay helps me in two ways: 1) I can sell some of my clearance merchandise and make some money off of it 2) cheap advertisment for my services : Clients who purchase from me are automatically added to my mailing list and everytime I get a shipment I send out mass mails to my previous clients. So far, many have come back and purchased other items, and requested from me other products as well
Regards.
staronedirect

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[shopper-X]

http://images.tigerdirect.ca/skuimages/large/L420-7200.jpg

I guess I'm glad I bought my Moto HS820 from TigerDirect.ca. I know I won't get scammed from there! :)

I hope your joking. I just bought the Motorola HS850 off tigerdirect.ca (http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1583131&CatId=1811) b/c of the $20 off promo and I think they sent me a knock-off.
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/7462/hs8501ys2.jpg
http://www.avisualtech.com/temp/HS850-2.JPG
http://www.avisualtech.com/temp/HS850-3.JPG

I can't hear from it, but people can hear me.

[chapel]

So funny. That's exactly what happened to me. I bought a motorola 820 and plantronics BT adaptor packaged for $60 off ebay and both came in a plastic bag and although the BT adaptor works fine, the headset never even powered up, the volume button was broken and i could smell the ear wax on the the headset. unit was obviously a fake, but why even bother selling a used fake? seller told me to send it to motorola for warranty replacement and lie that i actually paid $70 for it (just the headset) when i paid much less. Btw, the seller is la-tronics. stay away!

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I once read a feedback from one seller on Ebay, the customer was claiming that they recieved the headset in a Ziplock bag and it had ear wax on the speaker unit! and the seller would not reply to him! crazy stuff

[staronedirect]

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Too big of a black market - Only buy in Sealed US or Canadian Retail Packaging. Make sure the manuals are in ENGLISH ONLY!

[JMWarren]

I hope your joking. I just bought the Motorola HS850 off tigerdirect.ca (http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1583131&CatId=1811) b/c of the $20 off promo and I think they sent me a knock-off.
http://www.avisualtech.com/temp/HS850-1.JPG
http://www.avisualtech.com/temp/HS850-2.JPG
http://www.avisualtech.com/temp/HS850-3.JPG

I can't hear from it, but people can hear me.

I just bought the same one. I havn't really tested it yet. The sales guy (who I've known along time from highschool) explained that the noname packaging was because the headsets were originally packaged with a phone as a bonus and were repacked and sold seperatly....

[Steeve Urkel]

I worked in a family computer store. Our suppliers, who are totally legit as my university computer store also purchases from them, sell things called OEM products that don't come with the original box or packaging. But they are still considered real products. I wouldn't worry about it too much. I normally buy OEM if I can as its just so much cheaper. But I NEVER buy OEM as a gift as there's no original box!


I think that for the headsets or any other product you should know who you are dealing with.
I don't think the packaging matters as much wether its plastic or a cardboard box- but more what the writing on it says.

One of my friends had a computer store and would get tons of OEM products in plain packaging, but from the authorized distributor and not a factory in China.
He was dealing with Ingram micro? maybe or another Canadian distributor who even checks out your references before you can buy anything.

Just because you are buying from a big chain store doesn't mean they are going to be any more honest.
Look at Future shop, mdg- Future shop sells alot of "open box" .refurb items for only a few $ off....

[webdoctors]

these headset scams snd so fishy...horrible

I thought it was the same factory that made the legit motorola headsets during the day making knockoff ones at night, if that's the case wouldnt the quality be da same?

[superfigz]

i know this post is old but im sure others have bought fakes online so ill post anyway
i think a friend of mine might have just bought a knockoff

im used to seeing refurbished and oem electronics in plain packing which turns out to be authentic and didnt have a problem with this in the past but im pretty sure the motorola h3 my friend won is fake

by the way, im pretty sure the OP said one of the characteristics of fake headsets is the clear plastic coating- i think the REAL ones have plastic coating as i purchased a motorola h3 from futureshop which had plastic on it and was in sealed plastic packaging- the reception was great, good battery life

i found this link which shows the key differences in genuine and authentic headsets:

http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Counterfeit-Fake-Headsets---How-to-recognize-and-avoid-them-what-are-the-differences-article-a_1753-p_4.html

good read with side by side photos and the key differences to look for