2006 BMW sedan vs coupe?

[shin]

I am thinking about BMW be my next car, any idea why I need to pay 9K more for less power, smaller engine and only 5 speed ? ( of course less 2 drs :cheesygri ) Oh, there is only 1 model in 2006 which is M Sport Ed.
No more 330ci? Or waiting for 2007 model???


Here is the spec from their official web site.

2006 325Ci Coupé M Sport Edition
MSRP: $ 49,500
Horsepower: 184 hp
Drivetrain: Rear-wheel Drive
0-100 km/h: 7,6 s
5 speed manual


2006 325i Sedan
MSRP: $ 40,300
Horsepower: 215 hp
Drivetrain: Rear-wheel Drive
0-100 km/h: 7,1 s
6 speed manual

P.S.
Do u know any canadian BMW forum ?

[Andro]

okey they both suck and are really overpriced.....40000$ for 215hp that;s a joke, not to say that 184hp for 49,000$ is even bigger one, and don't even say that you are paying for quality or brand name cause those days are long gone for bmw.....have fun ;)

[Spray]

okey they both suck and are really overpriced.....40000$ for 215hp that;s a joke, not to say that 184hp for 49,000$ is even bigger one, and don't even say that you are paying for quality or brand name cause those days are long gone for bmw.....have fun ;)

Erm... :confused:

[ch1zo]

okey they both suck and are really overpriced.....40000$ for 215hp that;s a joke, not to say that 184hp for 49,000$ is even bigger one, and don't even say that you are paying for quality or brand name cause those days are long gone for bmw.....have fun ;)

what are u talking about??? BMW is one of the most reliable cars ever made...i have 2 bmw 2001-2002 and i have had no problems with them since owning them. i take care of it, following the maintainence schedule and doing the oil changes and i couldnt be happier with the purchase of my 325ci's. u wanna talk about overpriced...maybe you're thinking about mercedes benz.

[Andro]

what are u talking about??? BMW is one of the most reliable cars ever made...i have 2 bmw 2001-2002 and i have had no problems with them since owning them. i take care of it, following the maintainence schedule and doing the oil changes and i couldnt be happier with the purchase of my 325ci's. u wanna talk about overpriced...maybe you're thinking about mercedes benz.

im talking about paying almost 50 grand for a 184hp joke........why would you ever do it.....plus as you know bmw's maintenance is also one of the most expensive one's, so once you pay 50k it's not over you'll need almost as much to keep it up, not to say what's gonna happen if it'll brake and once again all the parts are overpriced.

[Evil Techie]

what are u talking about??? BMW is one of the most reliable cars ever made...i have 2 bmw 2001-2002 and i have had no problems with them since owning them. i take care of it, following the maintainence schedule and doing the oil changes and i couldnt be happier with the purchase of my 325ci's. u wanna talk about overpriced...maybe you're thinking about mercedes benz.

or hes thinking about the 01ish 5 series

lots of problems here and there
esp electrical ones and door problems

and yeah 50k for a 325Ci isnt really worth it
i still dont understand why coupes are so much more expensive than sedans even in second hand markets

meh

id rather get IS

[McLaren]

im talking about paying almost 50 grand for a 184hp joke........why would you ever do it.....plus as you know bmw's maintenance is also one of the most expensive one's, so once you pay 50k it's not over you'll need almost as much to keep it up, not to say what's gonna happen if it'll brake and once again all the parts are overpriced.

BMW has a free scheduled maintence program 4yrs/80,000km. Get with the times man.

[jerryhung]

Make sure the coupe's insurance doesn't kill you
while sedan is cheaper for sure

[B0000rt]

im talking about paying almost 50 grand for a 184hp joke........why would you ever do it.....plus as you know bmw's maintenance is also one of the most expensive one's, so once you pay 50k it's not over you'll need almost as much to keep it up, not to say what's gonna happen if it'll brake and once again all the parts are overpriced.

$50k for 184hp, that's $271.74/hp (excluding taxes PDI, freight etc)

Now if we go by your standards, the Lamborghini Gallardo.

$295k for 520hp, that's $567.31/hp

So, what's overpriced now?

[Neb]

There is more to a car than just HP. You can't really look at it that way, yes you can get some POS american car with 500 hp.. for half the price of a BMW. U have to look at the whoel package.

The Lotus would be a very expensive buy to you if you look at HP vs Price.

[Andro]

$50k for 184hp, that's $271.74/hp (excluding taxes PDI, freight etc)

Now if we go by your standards, the Lamborghini Gallardo.

$295k for 520hp, that's $567.31/hp

So, what's overpriced now?

and if we go by my standarts sivic si has almost 200hp for 25K that's 125/hp! ......why would you even compare gallardo are you stupid? that car has it's price for a reason plus when you are paying 295k it's not like you care too much about another 10-20k.......so there you go

p.s. if you think civic is different class try 205hp tsx it retails at 36k so that makes it 175.61/hp, still much much cheaper then bmw and better by quality too, also much cheaper maintenance and repairs!

[Andro]

BMW has a free scheduled maintence program 4yrs/80,000km. Get with the times man.

and after 4 yrs you are ****ed for life, get with the times yourself! maintenance after 4 yrs will cost you much more then any asian or domestic car.

[B0000rt]

and if we go by my standarts sivic si has almost 200hp for 25K that's 125/hp! ......why would you even compare gallardo are you stupid? that car has it's price for a reason plus when you are paying 295k it's not like you care too much about another 10-20k.......so there you go
LOL did you just realize you made your point moot by mentioning the Civic? Clearly the BMW has something else to offer than it's price/hp ratio.

p.s. if you think civic is different class try 205hp tsx it retails at 36k so that makes it 175.61/hp, still much much cheaper then bmw and better by quality too, also much cheaper maintenance and repairs!
Meh so? TSX is FF, and also, like most Honda engines, has no torque.

How about you gtfo of this thread and get back on topic with what the OP is talking about?

[Spray]

and after 4 yrs you are ****ed for life, get with the times yourself! maintenance after 4 yrs will cost you much more then any asian or domestic car.

Theres a LOT more than a car than just looking at it's hp..why dont we look at the Elise? I guess you'd never drive it because it has a putsy 180hp? The new BMW 3-Series is one of the greatest handling, best sedans to drive on the market today. Power isn't everything man...my car has GOBS of power as you can see in my signature, but a proper wheel drive car will toast me on the track.

I've seen you post on here before and you continue to show your ignorance and are always turning posts into flamewar's and belittling other people.

The BMW has great resale value, and is an amazing and reliable car to drive.

[corrupt123]

I wouldnt recommend a 3 series... but thats because I've spent most of my BMW ridership time in a 7 series.

Honestly I'd look for a used 5 series atleast. Or maybe save up another 40k and buy the M5. mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Okay i'll stop daydreaming.

[climacus]

andro: Have you actually driven any of these cars or are you just talking out of your ass?

I'd wait for the E90 coupe if you must insist on a new car. The E46 coupe is at the very end of it's model cycle, so there is no point in buying a new one unless you can get the price down. The new engines in the E90 are a significant improvement over the ones in the E46, and you get the 6-speed gearbox as standard equipment.

[shin]

First of all, thanks for everyone response.

40K for 325 BMW is overprice or not? Well, very depend on, compare G35, the HP, is overprice, but compare with brand name, BMW, 40K for Luxury Euro car, I don't think is too bad.... ( C class, A4, volvo, saab..similar price range )

I am waiting for 07 coupe to, just like to compare between 06 coupe and sedan until they have 07 model in showroom. (But i like E46 style more than E90.... ;) )

[Neb]

I am waiting a few years for the E90 tow ork out it's kinks. But ya I would go with the coupe too. The E46 looks nice, but the E90 will grow on u, give it a year. You dont' want to buy an out going model, paying that much and driivng it around, you kick urself for having a dated looking car.


First of all, thanks for everyone response.

40K for 325 BMW is overprice or not? Well, very depend on, compare G35, the HP, is overprice, but compare with brand name, BMW, 40K for Luxury Euro car, I don't think is too bad.... ( C class, A4, volvo, saab..similar price range )

I am waiting for 07 coupe to, just like to compare between 06 coupe and sedan until they have 07 model in showroom. (But i like E46 style more than E90.... ;) )

[bluetroll]

and after 4 yrs you are ****ed for life, get with the times yourself! maintenance after 4 yrs will cost you much more then any asian or domestic car.

dude, i drive a civic, love hondas, but i'm not as F'd as u... the 3 series is not even in the same category as the TSX.

[PCDawg]

I know some local toronto bmw forums..but not sure if u are in toronto.

But word of advice. STAY AWAY from 1st yaer production cars. There will be recalls upon recalls. Sure they are a great handling machine and its got great power range from low to high, but i find it a bit overrated.

I've had a 2001 Bmw 330ci convertible and my wife has a 2004 bmw 325xi so i know how they are. A PITA to maintain, i got rid of my 330 for a TSX and never been happier with the better reliability.

[Andro]

Theres a LOT more than a car than just looking at it's hp..why dont we look at the Elise? I guess you'd never drive it because it has a putsy 180hp? The new BMW 3-Series is one of the greatest handling, best sedans to drive on the market today. Power isn't everything man...my car has GOBS of power as you can see in my signature, but a proper wheel drive car will toast me on the track.

I've seen you post on here before and you continue to show your ignorance and are always turning posts into flamewar's and belittling other people.

The BMW has great resale value, and is an amazing and reliable car to drive.

im not flaming and definately not ignorant, i was just trying to explain that these cars are a waste of money......now speaking of elise first of it has 190hp and not 180 so check your stats before you post and try to flame my posts on here, second it's a nice car, kinda small but still very nice, but this car cannot be compared to 3 series totaly opposite maybe z4.....i didn't quite get where you were getting with that.

[Andro]

andro: Have you actually driven any of these cars or are you just talking out of your ass?

I'd wait for the E90 coupe if you must insist on a new car. The E46 coupe is at the very end of it's model cycle, so there is no point in buying a new one unless you can get the price down. The new engines in the E90 are a significant improvement over the ones in the E46, and you get the 6-speed gearbox as standard equipment.

of course i have, and not my choice of a car, i've also driven S600 mercedes, cadillacs and and some other sport cars.....so yeah bimmer is not my choice, that's just my opinion im not trying to tell you not to buy it, im just telling you that you will blow your money on nothin special.

[psywash]

Thats true there's a lot more to a ca than just horsepower. Plus theres no point of higher horsepower if you nca;t use it. Speed limit is 100km/H max.

On consumers report BMW retains its value far longer then the competition and is more reliable then a Mercedes.

I personaly think japanese cars are the most efficient and reliable and affordable. Inifiniti has one of the most reliable 6 cylinder engines on the market.

Just to add, you can't compare bhp to $...THeres soo much more to it than that, chasis, transmision, safety, computers.

A good example of how much extra's cost is the Chrysler 300c...Base is like 40000, with extras it can go up to 80000 obviosuly the HEMi adds alot but still all other features are significant in cost.

I would purchase the 5 series if you must. I think thats teh best buy from BMW

[Andro]

Thats true there's a lot more to a ca than just horsepower. Plus theres no point of higher horsepower if you nca;t use it. Speed limit is 100km/H max.

On consumers report BMW retains its value far longer then the competition and is more reliable then a Mercedes.

I personaly think japanese cars are the most efficient and reliable and affordable. Inifiniti has one of the most reliable 6 cylinder engines on the market.

Just to add, you can't compare bhp to $...THeres soo much more to it than that, chasis, transmision, safety, computers.

A good example of how much extra's cost is the Chrysler 300c...Base is like 40000, with extras it can go up to 80000 obviosuly the HEMi adds alot but still all other features are significant in cost.

I would purchase the 5 series if you must. I think thats teh best buy from BMW

price check.......300 goes for $30,255 - $50,695 and yes the 50k is 300c srt8

[psywash]

price check.......300 goes for $30,255 - $50,695 and yes the 50k is 300c srt8

Sorry or the over estimation. I just cheched the website and i saw $31000 Standard 300 and .....$56,000 SRT8

But then again the popularity of this car dropped and the demand is not as much as it use to be. I remeber the costs were higher 2 yrs back (the margin was higher)

Besides the point...this is just exapmple of how horsepower should not be a comparison to price...there are other factors.

...thanks andro for the update.

[Andro]

Sorry or the over estimation. I just cheched the website and i saw $31000 Standard 300 and .....$56,000 SRT8

But then again the popularity of this car dropped and the demand is not as much as it use to be. I remeber the costs were higher 2 yrs back (the margin was higher)

Besides the point...this is just exapmple of how horsepower should not be a comparison to price...there are other factors.

...thanks andro for the update.

no prob......there's a good website where you can check prices and most of the stats for cars, even for older models>>> www.auto123.com

[shin]

I know some local toronto bmw forums..but not sure if u are in toronto.


Yea ~ I live in Toronto

[xien0n]

Sure Bimmers are overpriced but they have snob appeal. Most people would be much more impressed when they see someone in the BMW than a Acura. BMW knows this and that's why they have the pricing power. Does that make them overpriced? Depends on how much you like showing off.

It's the same reason people buy Vaio laptops.

[jda]

Sure Bimmers are overpriced but they have snob appeal. Most people would be much more impressed when they see someone in the BMW than a Acura. BMW knows this and that's why they have the pricing power. Does that make them overpriced? Depends on how much you like showing off.

It's the same reason people buy Vaio laptops.

Plus all acura besides the RL are FF. Enough said.

[xien0n]

Plus all acura besides the RL are FF. Enough said.

You forgot the MDX ;)

[Evil Techie]

Sure Bimmers are overpriced but they have snob appeal. Most people would be much more impressed when they see someone in the BMW than a Acura. BMW knows this and that's why they have the pricing power. Does that make them overpriced? Depends on how much you like showing off.

It's the same reason people buy Vaio laptops.

not really

there are so many BMW 3 series in vancouver that its not even worth turning the head for

unless its an M3 but then theres plenty of that in vancouver too

i get more head turning factor with my lexus GS300 because it is more rare in canada and has great body design and styling

[B0000rt]

M35 and M45 turns my head all the time too

[Toronto Gamblers]

Just an FYI, the Lexus isn't turning any heads in TO...far from rare. Don't get me wrong but the city is loaded with great cars.

Wow this string got way off topic!!

I'm also in the market for a new car. I want something fun, drives well, dependable and not a rip off.
I like some speed but I'm 34, well past the idiot days of racing so I don't need the horsepower of a 330.

Considering BMW 325i, Audi A4, G35, Volvo S40

Any advice?

[kevs]

How come no one has mentioned the 2006 Lexus IS250 yet? That car was built to directly compete with the BMW 325i. RWD, 6 speed manual, and legendary Lexus quality and service. Yes, it's a bit slower than the 325i, but it starts at over $3000 less than the 325i. Plus it's a lot better looking than the current 3 series IMO. I really hate the tail lights on the new 3 series, the rest of it looks okay.

http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_geneva/lexus_is/images/z2006%20IS%20250_03.jpg
vs
http://www.autobytel.com/images/carcom/06_BMW_3Series/400/06_BMW_3Series_exrrdrvr34.jpg

Then there's the IS350 which just leaves the 330i in the dust (albeit in a straight line, the 3 series is definitely a better handling car), although it starts at close to $49,000.

[Taiphun]

BMW has a free scheduled maintence program 4yrs/80,000km. Get with the times man.

I wouldn't be surprised if they ditched this soon.. MB and Audi have stopped this service, BMW would probably be next...

[Taiphun]

I'm also in the market for a new car. I want something fun, drives well, dependable and not a rip off.
I like some speed but I'm 34, well past the idiot days of racing so I don't need the horsepower of a 330.

Considering BMW 325i, Audi A4, G35, Volvo S40

Any advice?

Test drive them all. Then take a test drive in a Subaru Legacy GT.

I drove them all save for the A4, here's what I thought:
. 325i - excellent car, handles great, expensive long term maintenance
. G35 - fit and finish could use a bit of improvements, very heavy
. S40 - Too small, felt disconnected from the road.

Then I drove the Legacy GT.. brakes could use some improvement, but it's got AWD, handles really well, powerful, and super-fun to drive.

Ended up taking home a Legacy GT Limited in wagon trim..

[blizzah]

My family just bought a 2007 BMW 530i, delivery at the end of the month. The fact is that BMW is a driver's car, may not be as comfy as a GS or as big and brand pleasing as a E-Class but it's a hell of a car.

The maintenence is only an issue if you plan on keeping in 6, 8 10 years, but at this price point, is that the problem? If you're going to be dishing out 80k in my case for a car, a couple hundred or even thousand dollars in repair isn't going to break the bank.

I wouldn't suggest the 325, but the 330 is a nice car. Also take a look at the G35 if you need bigger and the A4 and IS 250 to get some second thoughts on the purchase. Also, I would get the E90, if you want the coupe, wait for the E90 version, you don't want to spend 50k on a car only to find out that it looks like you bought it 6 years ago!

Oh yea, to the above poster, I think a LS or GS would turn some heads in Toronto, but there are SO MANY RX and Es here, its not even funny. Also a lot of E-Class and 3 series.

[Evil Techie]

yeah im pretty sure my GS would turn heads even in toronto
there just arent that many GS around in canada

A4 is a great driving car too but if i was to go German... i think id rather get a BMW 325i

subaru legacy GT drives very well from what ive been hearing too
never got the chance to test drive it
but i could never really settle on its styling either

anyways if you are interested in BMW 3 sedan, you should compare it with lexus IS series
just to have more choices and u never know, u might like IS a lot more

[Evil Techie]

My family just bought a 2007 BMW 530i, delivery at the end of the month. The fact is that BMW is a driver's car, may not be as comfy as a GS or as big and brand pleasing as a E-Class but it's a hell of a car.

The maintenence is only an issue if you plan on keeping in 6, 8 10 years, but at this price point, is that the problem? If you're going to be dishing out 80k in my case for a car, a couple hundred or even thousand dollars in repair isn't going to break the bank.

I wouldn't suggest the 325, but the 330 is a nice car. Also take a look at the G35 if you need bigger and the A4 and IS 250 to get some second thoughts on the purchase. Also, I would get the E90, if you want the coupe, wait for the E90 version, you don't want to spend 50k on a car only to find out that it looks like you bought it 6 years ago!

Oh yea, to the above poster, I think a LS or GS would turn some heads in Toronto, but there are SO MANY RX and Es here, its not even funny. Also a lot of E-Class and 3 series.

congrats with the new 530
what a gorgeous car
what colour did u guys get?

i agree with the maintenance part, it does cost a lot and ppl buying these cars SHOULD be able to afford it without much complain but since we are RFDers, we'd like to save as much as possible

[xien0n]

yeah im pretty sure my GS would turn heads even in toronto
there just arent that many GS around in canada


Well, the new 3 series turns heads too - but that's because it's so ugly. I'm looking at one right now parked on my street and its got such odd curves. I think the coupe will probably look better b/c BMW's new design does look better on coupes (ie: 6 series).

I believe it was Top Gear that said the new 3 series looks like 20 feet of "car". It's not pretty like it used to be. The 05 330ci with M-sport package had me drooling every time I walked by it.

[xien0n]

Getting really OT, speaking of Lexus GS's, I saw a GS300 limo when I was in NY. That was one of the oddest choices of cars for limo's I've ever seen along with the FX45 limo.

http://www.mvlimo.com/details.php?car=50

[DJ_Peanuts22]

I am thinking about BMW be my next car, any idea why I need to pay 9K more for less power, smaller engine and only 5 speed ? ( of course less 2 drs :cheesygri ) Oh, there is only 1 model in 2006 which is M Sport Ed.
No more 330ci? Or waiting for 2007 model???


Here is the spec from their official web site.

2006 325Ci Coupé M Sport Edition
MSRP: $ 49,500
Horsepower: 184 hp
Drivetrain: Rear-wheel Drive
0-100 km/h: 7,6 s
5 speed manual


2006 325i Sedan
MSRP: $ 40,300
Horsepower: 215 hp
Drivetrain: Rear-wheel Drive
0-100 km/h: 7,1 s
6 speed manual

P.S.
Do u know any canadian BMW forum ?


no point of getting any new 3 Series, since the Lexus IS350 will smoke the doors off all of them, and is easily built with higher quality standards than the BMW, this also goes for the Infiniti G35 as well, comparing RWD Sport Sedans

therefore, Lexus IS350 > * cars mentioned here.

my 2 cents.

[doubleA]

Plus all acura besides the RL are FF. Enough said.

What is "FF"??

What about the Acura TL? That's a great looking car, and a great drive.

[jda]

no point of getting any new 3 Series, since the Lexus IS350 will smoke the doors off all of them, and is easily built with higher quality standards than the BMW, this also goes for the Infiniti G35 as well, comparing RWD Sport Sedans

therefore, Lexus IS350 > * cars mentioned here.

my 2 cents.

Woohoo IS350 with AUTOMATIC transmission only....fun fun fun....

[joo]

The reason the 2006 325Ci is only 184 HP is that it's the older model (E46 chassis). 2007 models will be the new chassis (E90) with 215 HP.

And remember, we are talking about 184 ***German*** HP, not the pansy Japanese HP. You'll find the BMW is much more dynamic and responsive than the Lexus, MB or Volvo.

There is an advantage to getting a car from the last year of a model's run: the factory has worked out all the bugs so reliability is the best it'll ever get.

The bonus is that dealers will want to move it off the lot and will do a deal.

The only real competitor to the 3-Series is the G35.
The rest are all pretenders (yeah, I own a 330i and I've driven all the others).

sites to check out:

www.e46fanatics.com
www.e90fanatics.com
www.e46toronto.com

[xien0n]

What is "FF"??

What about the Acura TL? That's a great looking car, and a great drive.


Front Engine Front Wheel Drive.
It's a Gran Turismo thing.

[Anessa]

yeah im pretty sure my GS would turn heads even in toronto
there just arent that many GS around in canada

A4 is a great driving car too but if i was to go German... i think id rather get a BMW 325i

subaru legacy GT drives very well from what ive been hearing too
never got the chance to test drive it
but i could never really settle on its styling either

anyways if you are interested in BMW 3 sedan, you should compare it with lexus IS series
just to have more choices and u never know, u might like IS a lot more

Uhh I know of 3 Lexus GS430s in my neighbourhood alone. They're not as rare as you think...sorry to burst your bubble ;)

[R23]

i read it was going to be called 4-series.
http://www.motortrend.com/future/spied_vehicles/112_0601_2007_bmw_3_series/

ya the 3-series looks worse than the lexus is.
it looks like just another car, only thing it has is its handling and performance.
at least the c-class looks like a baby s, but would you really even want a baby 7?
at this point, id probably take the IS just cuz the bmw and mercedes just look so much uglier (as far as handling, im sure aftermarket add-ons will help)

[demha88]

i read it was going to be called 4-series.
http://www.motortrend.com/future/spied_vehicles/112_0601_2007_bmw_3_series/

ya the 3-series looks worse than the lexus is.
it looks like just another car, only thing it has is its handling and performance.
at least the c-class looks like a baby s, but would you really even want a baby 7?
at this point, id probably take the IS just cuz the bmw and mercedes just look so much uglier (as far as handling, im sure aftermarket add-ons will help)

where the hell does it say that?

[blizzah]

congrats with the new 530
what a gorgeous car
what colour did u guys get?

i agree with the maintenance part, it does cost a lot and ppl buying these cars SHOULD be able to afford it without much complain but since we are RFDers, we'd like to save as much as possible

Wanted the Carbon Black but they needed the M Package too, and for 6500, it wasnt worth it. So went with tried and tested. Black Saphire with Black Dakota Leather.

[McLaren]

Heres the E92 coupe in action

http://www.mwerks.com/gallery/albums//BMW/Technology%20and%20Development/E92%203%20Series=Spy%20Photos/005.jpg

http://www.mwerks.com/gallery/generated//BMW/Technology%20and%20Development/E92%203%20Series=Spy%20Photos/006__scaled_600.jpg

[Toronto Gamblers]

Test drive them all. Then take a test drive in a Subaru Legacy GT.

I drove them all save for the A4, here's what I thought:
. 325i - excellent car, handles great, expensive long term maintenance
. G35 - fit and finish could use a bit of improvements, very heavy
. S40 - Too small, felt disconnected from the road.

Then I drove the Legacy GT.. brakes could use some improvement, but it's got AWD, handles really well, powerful, and super-fun to drive.

Ended up taking home a Legacy GT Limited in wagon trim..

Thanks! I appreciate the first hand opinion.

Has anyone else driven these cars and have an opinion. I didn't realize the G35 had so much more HP.

Also someone mentioned the IS250. My colleague has one and it really seems quite small inside...one other thing..Audi still has a service program, I believe its 6 years 160KM...someone said they had cancelled it.

[Toronto Gamblers]

no point of getting any new 3 Series, since the Lexus IS350 will smoke the doors off all of them, and is easily built with higher quality standards than the BMW, this also goes for the Infiniti G35 as well, comparing RWD Sport Sedans

therefore, Lexus IS350 > * cars mentioned here.

my 2 cents.

The IS350 certainly seems like a great car but it should blow the doors off the BMW 325 and the other vehicles, this car lists $10k more.

[Evil Techie]

Wanted the Carbon Black but they needed the M Package too, and for 6500, it wasnt worth it. So went with tried and tested. Black Saphire with Black Dakota Leather.


if that was the case, shouldve gone for white

IS350 vs BMW 330i though...

[R23]

where the hell does it say that?

i read that in tuningnews or something, it was a while ago, when the 6 series came out.

apparantly, odd numbers will be for four-door models, and even will be for two-door models.

[Vladcanada]

canadian bmw forum

maxbimmer.com

[Slimfast]

Wow, just curious. What do you guys do for a living that lets you buy such expensive cars? I was under the impression that most of RFD members were poor university students.

[DJ_Peanuts22]

Woohoo IS350 with AUTOMATIC transmission only....fun fun fun....

fast = fun

paddle-shifters, schumacher-style = fun

showing your tailights to any new 3-series, G35, S40 A4, etc. etc. etc. = fun


your sense of sarcasm on the other hand fails to provide me with any impression of you having a sense of humour at all.

[i-o_o-i]

I would go with the coupe because it looks much hotter than a sedan

[jda]

fast = fun

paddle-shifters, schumacher-style = fun

showing your tailights to any new 3-series, G35, S40 A4, etc. etc. etc. = fun


your sense of sarcasm on the other hand fails to provide me with any impression of you having a sense of humour at all.

paddle-shifters, schumacher-style = fun when you can't shift and cant coordinate your left foot with your right hand.
Also it might be "shcumacher-style" but it is nothing close to a standard transmisson. It's not close to the same sequential shifting system on a porsche or ferrai.

All my friends said the paddle-shifters is fun UNTIL they actually own and learnt how to drive a standard transmission car.
Notice the op have standard transmission in his configuration, I am pretty sure it's in there for a reason.

Sure IS might be faster on the straight acceleration, but the e90s will own all the cars you have listed on winding mountain road.

If going fast on a straight road is your thing, save your money and buy a legacy gt, it'll be just as fast as the IS and 20K cheaper.

[Andro]

Sure IS might be faster on the straight acceleration, but the e90s will own all the cars you have listed on winding mountain road.



Are you planning on racing IS and 3 series on mountain roads?alps maybe? :lol: most races you get in t.o are traffic light to traffic light with very smooth turns, we are not in switzerland, you know that right?

[PCDawg]

Some local bmw forums to check out (toronto)

www.e46toronto.ca
www.maxbimmer.com
www.tuningemotion.com

Maxbimmer being a wide range of BMWS...from the 70s to the newer versions.
With the latter site, its more of a german car group, but most of them are BMW drivers.

[Spray]

I've driven most of the mentioned vehicles, as well as a Sunaru Legacy GT LTD and a mazdaspeed6. The Legacy GT is hands down one of the most fun vehicles to drive and cheapest as well...it's fast and handles pretty well, not as good as some of the others but the Spec B will help that out somewhat.

I'm currently pricing SPEC B's out in the USA, they can be had for 36k CAD brand new.

[Toronto Gamblers]

Has anyone leased a BMW, Lexus, Infinity, Audi or similar lately? What kind of finance rate have you recieved? A friend said his BMW 325 was leased at 2.9%, but everything I see is 7.9%.

I'd prefer to not put more money down but with this kind of lease rate I'll have to put more cash in to have a reasonable payment.

[veryhuman]

i love how OP's original question is totally ignored. :lol:

[achc]

i saw someone saying "most reliable cars ever made" is bmw...NONO...might be one of the best car to drive besides expensive sport car but not reiable onces it gets old....super high mantainance car and lots of computer problems can happen..

back to the question...the 06 sedan looks f-ed up
the coupe will chage some day but before it does, i will get the coupe...yes...its more expensive...and yes, low HP but what about torque? its all tat matter...u won't need 300hp coz ur not gonna do 260km/h all da time...maybe once 2 weeks max?...but high torque means fast accerlation and your car can move better when its loaded..

[DaLurker]

I'd go for the 4 door. Insurance cost being the major factor here, and practicality being the other.

For all those saying the BMW's not worth it, give it a drive. If you think its not the best handling 4 door sedan you've driven, then step away. All there is to it.

BMW's are for drivers.

[dealers]

(1) Anybody has a pre-owned BMW now? How do you feel about the purchase?

(2) Is this a good pre-owned car?

2003 BMW 320i Sedan: $ 27,900 - 56,000 km

[r1lee]

I wouldn't be surprised if they ditched this soon.. MB and Audi have stopped this service, BMW would probably be next...

When did Audi stop this service?

[Mclaren-7]

When did Audi stop this service?


Audi has not stop it yet, but starting in the 2007 model year, Audi USA (Audi Canada still wouldn't confirm or deny) will stop free schedule maintenance.

[trolldealhunter]

just my INPUT - we looked at the 3 class (dad and i) test drove it, the 3 class is slow as HELL...330ix is a bit faster..in the end we opted to go for an Acrua TL under 50G with Navigation, bluetooth voice technology, great choice!

[climacus]

(2) Is this a good pre-owned car?
2003 BMW 320i Sedan: $ 27,900 - 56,000 km

Should be $25.5k with automatic.

[gilboman]

just my INPUT - we looked at the 3 class (dad and i) test drove it, the 3 class is slow as HELL...330ix is a bit faster..in the end we opted to go for an Acrua TL under 50G with Navigation, bluetooth voice technology, great choice!

so you bought an accord instead of a 3series. big difference.. totally different class of car there.