RDX official release date in Canada

[rdx]

I have been searching on the internt for the RDX's official release date and its suggested retailed price. But don't seem to find any, does anyone have any updated info ? I only know Acura will probably start selling it in Summar this year.

[gilboman]

just go buy the CRV..its the samething.

[Nismo]

just go buy the CRV..its the samething.


samething?!?! , not really if you get the turbo'd version. Plus you get acura badging :cheesygri

[rdx]

Redesigned CRV won't come out until 2008. It will probably on the same platform, but lower end material

[climacus]

I think it's scheduled for summer 2006. As for pricing, I'm guessing $39k-$44k.

[gilboman]

samething?!?! , not really if you get the turbo'd version. Plus you get acura badging :cheesygri

you'll also get paddleshifters like the civic CSX :lol:

[Narci]

Check Here:

http://rdx.acurazine.com/forums/

[Sgt_Strider]

Is it true that the RDX getting the SH-AWD mode that's present in the RL? If so, it would be pretty sweat. Though I'm no where close to have the funds to purchase such beauty :(.

[GangStarr]

Is it true that the RDX getting the SH-AWD mode that's present in the RL? If so, it would be pretty sweat. Though I'm no where close to have the funds to purchase such beauty :(.
not only does it have SH-AWD it also has a 2.3 liter turbo charged 4 banger. Producing the eqivilant or more torque / hp then most competitors in its class.

[Sgt_Strider]

not only does it have SH-AWD it also has a 2.3 liter turbo charged 4 banger. Producing the eqivilant or more torque / hp then most competitors in its class.

Impressive.

[bubs]

does anyone have any more info on the rdx? release dates? pricing? trim levels?

how much cheaper than the mdx will it be?

[bembol]

It's at Erin Mills Acura...$41k, $46k for Navi/Package

Convinced my sister & brother to pick it up...share the monthly...!!!

Test Drive will probably be this Friday

[sixer]

I'm sorry, but the CRV doesn't even come close to comparing to the Acura MDX or RDX.

[ES_Revenge]

Does the RDX have the AWD system from the RL or from the MDX? Both employ the ingenious EM clutchpacks but the system in the RL is more advanced than the one in the MDX. Why would they put the same system from the RL in the cheaper-than-MDX RDX?

[frogger]

Too bad about the fuel economy numbers 19/23mpg

[Andro]

I'm sorry, but the CRV doesn't even come close to comparing to the Acura MDX or RDX.

well it's based on same platform and they look almost the same, so yes it does.....well already, did to be precise......oh yeah, and MDX could only be compared to Pilot not CRV.

2007 CRV
http://i6.tinypic.com/262nrcp.jpg http://i7.tinypic.com/262nrqb.jpg

2007 RDX
http://i5.tinypic.com/262ns6c.jpg http://i1.tinypic.com/262nts3.jpg

[radeonboy]

Too bad about the fuel economy numbers 19/23mpg

If you buy an easily over $40-45K vehicle, heck you shouldnt care about gas mileage.

If you are buying a small 4 banger like a corrola or civic, or swift, THEN gas mileage specs matter.

[Andro]

Too bad about the fuel economy numbers 19/23mpg

well in other words it's 12.4l city 9.8l highway/100km, which is not very bad for a small SUV that powerfull.......it does however require premium, which could be an issue to some ppl.

[frogger]

If you buy an easily over $40-45K vehicle, heck you shouldnt care about gas mileage.

If you are buying a small 4 banger like a corrola or civic, or swift, THEN gas mileage specs matter.
Well compared to another crossover SUV like the rav4 v6, somehow the RDX manages to be slower, less roomy, and get worse fuel economy. Its not even close in any of those categories!

[Andro]

Well compared to another crossover SUV like the rav4 v6, somehow the RDX manages to be slower, less roomy, and get worse fuel economy. Its not even close in any of those categories!

well it's more luxurious over rav 4, better looking(personal taste), standart xenon lights(not even optional on rav 4), and it's only about 0.4 s slower then rav 4 v6.

[frogger]

Motortrend #'s
Rav4 0-60 6.4s 1/4 Mile 15s @91.6mph
RDX 0-60 7.3s 1/4 Mile 15.6s@88.9mph

[Andro]

Motortrend #'s
Rav4 0-60 6.4s 1/4 Mile 15s @91.6mph
RDX 0-60 7.3s 1/4 Mile 15.6s@88.9mph

well actually rav 4 is 6.9 sec (MT est).......and here's the link (http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/suv/112_0601_2006_toyota_rav4_v6_sport/specs_pricing.html) .......so yeah, 0.4s difference...........also consider that new rav 4's will be made in Canada soon not Japan anymore, if that makes any difference for you.

[frogger]

well actually rav 4 is 6.9 sec (MT est).......and here's the link (http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/suv/112_0601_2006_toyota_rav4_v6_sport/specs_pricing.html) .......so yeah, 0.4s difference.
That was an estimate (thus the EST) released before they were able to run it through its paces.
http://www.caranddriver.com/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=75668&pageNo=1

[ricky13579]

someone in my area is driving one of it, RDX Turbo

yes i know it's not release yet, but he is driving one

it looks very nice!!

[bluetroll]

i saw it on the weekend as well... it was in black.

[Evil Techie]

and apparently, Honda chief engineer designed the turbo system for RDX so that there is no turbo lag

she (the engineer) is pretty darn smart

[ES_Revenge]

and apparently, Honda chief engineer designed the turbo system for RDX so that there is no turbo lag

she (the engineer) is pretty darn smart
That's not necessarily a miracle. Lots of turbo systems have been designed for minimal lag effect. It's nice to have, particularly in normal road-going cars but just because the RDX has it's turbo set up this way in no way makes it unique. The way it accomplishes it might be unique perhaps, but it's not the first car to be designed with a turbo with minimal noticeability of the turbo operating.

[Narci]

The RDX had a variable turbo system (Same set-up found int he 2006 911 Turbo):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable_geometry_turbocharger

Variable geometry turbocharger (VGT) improves upon turbocharger design by being able to change the orientation of the vanes of the turbine, thus changing the surface they present to the exhaust gases. With this technology, it becomes possible to present a greater turbine surface at low engine rotations (therefore minimizing turbo lag) and a smaller one, nearly zero, at high engine rotation (therefore removing the need for a waste gate). The same kind of control is used on power plant turbines.

These VGT turbochargers have a minimal amount of lag, have a low boost threshold and are very efficient at higher engine speeds. In many setups these turbos don't even need a wastegate. The vanes are controlled by a membrane identical to the one on a wastegate but the level of control required is a bit different.

[kingsley]

That's not necessarily a miracle. Lots of turbo systems have been designed for minimal lag effect. It's nice to have, particularly in normal road-going cars but just because the RDX has it's turbo set up this way in no way makes it unique. The way it accomplishes it might be unique perhaps, but it's not the first car to be designed with a turbo with minimal noticeability of the turbo operating.

Dude it's more than just no turbo lag, which is quite easy to accomplish by putting in a smaller turbo.

The RDX engine has a turbo that has it's own VTEC! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[TenzoR]

Dude it's more than just no turbo lag, which is quite easy to accomplish by putting in a smaller turbo.

The RDX engine has a turbo that has it's own VTEC! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

wonder how often the turbo needs replacing and how much ;)

[SkiD]

Man, who's doing the styling for Honda these days, I thought new generations of a platform were supposed to look better than the previous generation, Honda's new designs don't seem to be consistent with each other and really look like there are a lot of tacked on bits.

IMHO, the new Civic, CRV and MDX's all look worse than their previous generation (seemed to have started with the Ridgeline). If Honda screws up the Accord they could be trouble.

In general though, I have noticed that the Acura versions tend to have a nicer look than the Honda's.

[new_vr]

Impressive.
Why is this impressive? I would rather have a less trouble prone v6? What advantage are you getting with the turbo engine? Save some weight? Makes sense in a car, but in the SUV, the engine is just a small fraction of the weight

[BD006]

IMHO, the new Civic, CRV and MDX's all look worse than their previous generation (seemed to have started with the Ridgeline). If Honda screws up the Accord they could be trouble.

IMO, this was the start of their awkward styling.
Though, it doesn't mean they still don't/won't sell well.

[Andro]

That was an estimate (thus the EST) released before they were able to run it through its paces.
http://www.caranddriver.com/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=75668&pageNo=1

the link takes you to forum, not official car and driver review....where's the official review with stats?

[Evil Techie]

the new Camry is already taking a 10 day delivery in every dealerships in US

it is extremely back-ordered and Honda would really have to do something desperate to get the accord sales up to half of that of camry

i hope the new accord can look nice too
this RDX is just terrible looking but i suppose it might grow on me... or not

[frogger]

the link takes you to forum, not official car and driver review....where's the official review with stats?
http://rdx.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=294 has scans

[Andro]

http://rdx.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=294 has scans

well according to article RDX is on 1st place and Rav 4 V6 is on 2nd, while Mazda cx7 gets last(3rd) place.....so i ask again what's your point? :D

[frogger]

well according to article RDX is on 1st place and Rav 4 V6 is on 2nd, while Mazda cx7 gets last(3rd) place.....so i ask again what's your point? :D
I was just pointing out facts, not subjective ranking by a car magazine that values cornering of a utility vehicle over utility.

[Andro]

I was just pointing out facts, not subjective ranking by a car magazine that values cornering of a utility vehicle over utility.

im pretty sure they have better reasoning then most of us, i mean after all it's their job.

[frogger]

The RDX only has 6 more cubic feet of storage than a Matrix or Vibe, and can only tow 1500lbs, or about the same as any 4 cylinder compact like a Civic or Corolla. For people who want a fun small wagon with some luxury it is a good bet I guess. But if you've got a kid or two and a dog, or a business where you need to carry stuff around etc etc something a little larger and powerful (with the same fuel economy) for the same price makes a lot more sense.

[new_vr]

well actually rav 4 is 6.9 sec (MT est).......and here's the link (http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/suv/112_0601_2006_toyota_rav4_v6_sport/specs_pricing.html) .......so yeah, 0.4s difference...........also consider that new rav 4's will be made in Canada soon not Japan anymore, if that makes any difference for you.
The RDX is being built in Ohio.
Better to buy made in Canada in either case

[airodus]

I test drove the RDX with my dad last night. I have to say, it's a very impressive ride. He's going to be buying it either tonight or tommorow.

We tried X-Trail, Forester NA and Turbo, Rav4 v6, CX-7, CR-V, Sante Fe and now the RDX. They all have their strong points, but the RDX felt best overall. Plus, the SH-AWD is unbelievable. Never felt anything that sure footed (my previous car was a Legacy GT and now I drive an A4 Quattro... so I have some AWD experience).

Our experience when trying out these mini SUVs -

X-Trail - excellent braking, decent handling. but only a 4 cylinder available and no curtain airbags took this off the list. one nice thing is that although it is part time AWD, you can lock the system to full-time up to 80 kph (good for winter)

Forester - i love scoobies and the forester was an awesome ride. feels like you're driving a car, not an SUV. the acceleration on the Turbo is unbelievable and definately felt the fastest of everything we tried (Rav4 might be faster, but Forester "felt" faster). but once you put in all the options, the sticker gets pretty high for a Subaru (40K + tax) and still doesn't include things like dual zone climate which my dad wanted.

Rav4 - cheap power. for low 30s you can get an incredible V6 engine. but I think they made the size too big and i personally didn't like the interior. handling was so-so. u also couldn't get curtain airbags without buying the top, top model (with leather and 7 passenger seating for high 30s).

CX-7 - impressive package for the money and closest thing to the RDX on paper. in reality however, it didn't drive as well as you thought it would. significant turbo lag and exhibited understeer on hard cornering. brakes were very impressive and there are lots of neat gadgets and gizmos. i REALLY liked the exterior, but found the interior to be kind of gloomy.

CR-V - we didn't like at all. slow, poor handling and confusing cockpit. it's outdated and has a complete redesign coming out in a few months.

Santa Fe - good bang for the buck, but nothing really stands out. best warranty in the biz too. a good pick for price conscious buyers

RDX - quick, but not the fastest. strangely (for a honda), it had a very flat power band. the turbo is definately well designed and exhibits minimal turbo lag. i tossed it around on the wet roads and the car just stuck like glue. the AWD system seems very active (you can feel it shifting power all over), unlike my subaru and audi where you don't really notice. however, where i could bring the subaru or audi into a controlled oversteer or slide... the rdx felt like it was on rails. i could not get it to shake loose, even on the wet road. now this isn't very fun, but it goes to show how advanced the AWD system is. it's a shame that they don't make it available for other Acura models (just the uber expensive RL).

i don't care much for the exterior. the interior is nice, but nothing special. the leather seats are very plush and comfortable. it also had curtain airbags and dual zone climate standard which my dad was especially insistent on. at the end of the day, it was the only vehicle that delivered on everything my dad wanted and that's why he is taking it

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I definately think it's a nice ride. And that is saying a lot cause I hate Hondas. Hahah. But to me, the RDX is an anti Honda (turbo engine, AWD)... so maybe that is why I like it.

[konfusion666]

nice review airodus.

i was at Acura North today, apparently the RDX is pretty popular over there right now... and next week (or the week after?) they are supposed to be getting the redesigned MDX.

[Evil Techie]

i wonder how this car compares to BMW X3 and Lexus RX330/350?

and whats the MSRP of the RDX here in canada?

[Andro]

i wonder how this car compares to BMW X3 and Lexus RX330/350?

and whats the MSRP of the RDX here in canada?

it does compare to X3 but not rx 330 totally different class, to compare that you need MDX.

[konfusion666]

except the RX330 is smaller than the MDX.

[airodus]

Just a follow-up. We went in to negotiate the purchase of the car. There's not a whole lot of wiggle room since they had about 40 people who had made a $1000 deposit to get on the waiting list and only 5 cars in the first shipment.

That said, we managed to get $500 off sticker plus some all-weather floor mats and 3M rock guard for the hood (retail of mats and guard is about $550, cost is probably $2 heheh). I would definately wait a few months or a year before buying this if you want to get a good deal.

There was actually one guy who was behind us on the waiting list who offered my dad $1000 to trade spots (so he could get one of the first batch). He said that in front of the sales manager which kind of hurt our negotiating position. Thankfully we were friends with our salesman so the sales manager gave us the small discount (instead of just going to the next person on the list until he got full MSRP).

C'est la vie. The price you pay to be an early adopter...

[Andro]

The RDX only has 6 more cubic feet of storage than a Matrix or Vibe, and can only tow 1500lbs, or about the same as any 4 cylinder compact like a Civic or Corolla. For people who want a fun small wagon with some luxury it is a good bet I guess. But if you've got a kid or two and a dog, or a business where you need to carry stuff around etc etc something a little larger and powerful (with the same fuel economy) for the same price makes a lot more sense.

oh and btw here (http://www.toyota.ca/cgi-bin/WebObjects/WWW.woa/16/wo/Home.Vehicles.Rav4-Gm3eHh7nmB1ESGPQnpT5Jg/7.13?v121015e%2ehtml#) are the stats from toyota website: saying that rav4 v6 0-100km is 6.7s, just click on v6 engine.

[shinichi]

it does compare to X3 but not rx 330 totally different class, to compare that you need MDX.

how about fx 35 (size wise)?

[Andro]

how about fx 35 (size wise)?

no, since fx35/45 is in lexus 330/acura mdx and so on class......the vehicles that could be compared to this car are: CRV, RAV4, X-trail, CX7...and so on...........fx 35/45 is way bigger.

[daftfunk]

airodus, nice reviews. I have very similiar impressions of the compact SUVs that you reviewed

[rdx]

Anyone knows if any Acura dealer has sold out all 7 in stock (I was told each dealer gets 7 from the first shipment. Terragate Acura told me they have sold 3 already. Not sure when will be the next shipment. Does it usally take 3 months ?

The salesperson at Acura must be happy. No negotiable/bargaining, easy job for them. I am wondering if customer can even order online (since all are sold at suggested retail price any way). Maybe dealer can pass the commission saving to the consumers. :cheesygri

[bembol]

I took it for a Test Drive...amazing response from Turbo and the SH-AWD...!!!

I was told the wait is roughly 2-3 weeks...who knows...???

[rdx]

You mean 2-3 weeks for the next shipment ?

[Narci]

My friend got a call saying his was ready to be picked up last week. He only put a downpayment on it a week earlier. Suffice to say, he had to decline it since he is away on vacation and won't make up his mind till he comes back.