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Eye-man
Mar 9th, 2006, 02:15 PM
Has anyone heard about it or tried it? If so, is it as good as it claims?
deep
Mar 9th, 2006, 02:28 PM
Isn't that the stuff that gives Joe Eigo super powers? I say go for it!
botai
Mar 9th, 2006, 02:31 PM
what is noni juice?
is it like redbull or something
rhainman
Mar 9th, 2006, 02:33 PM
Is it better than yoni juice? :cheesygri
Squiggles
Mar 9th, 2006, 02:49 PM
Noni Juice: A Miracle (?) "Cure" from the South Pacific
from Deborah Wirtel
Too Good To Be True?
Recently, a woman who had the "cure" to Migraine "headaches" contacted me. She found this "cure" in Tahitian Noni Juice, and claimed that after using Tahitian Noni Juice for just a few weeks, her chronic daily Migraines disappeared. She now only experiences an occasional Migraine, which she says she quickly relieves with a tablespoon or two of Tahitian Noni Juice. Does it sound too good to be true?
Tahitian Noni Juice comes from the morinda citrifolia fruit, found in the South Pacific region. The claim is that natives of the region have used it for their health for thousands of years. Advocates for Noni Juice claim it is found on the U.S. Food and Drug Administration's and Department of Agriculture's list of generally recognized safe products. They point to many alleged nutraceutical benefits.
According to the International Noni Communication Council, and Dr. Neil Solomon, the Council's physician, Tahitian Noni Juice is dosed in four phases: a test serving used over three days, a loading serving used for one month, a therapeutic serving, used for two to six months, and a maintenance/prevention serving for month seven and beyond. Depending on your age, Solomon lists the number of ounces per day a person should use in each phase.
Noni advocates say it can be used for several conditions and to achieve many goals: increasing energy, lessening allergy symptoms, improving asthma, losing weight, improving arthritis and diabetes, decreasing pain (including headache pain) and to lessen symptoms of cancer, fibromyalgia, multiple sclerosis and stroke.ƒT The advocate who contacted me claimed it was safe to take with all medicines, even, she specifically pointed out, blood pressure medicines. Such claims scare me to death. With just a little research, I found not only was this juice risky, but many advocates making these claims are in violation of at least three FDA acts.
According to the Natural Medicines Comprehensive Database, morinda citrifolia taken with potassium sparing diuretics might increase the risk of hyperkalemia, a condition where potassium builds to possibly fatal levels in the blood stream. Use of the fruit can also interfere with diagnostic tests; and the increase in stomach acid due to ingestion of any food "will cause destruction of the enzyme required for formation of the active ingredient xeronin in the intestine."ƒU
The dosing information provided on the International Noni Communication Council's web site "make" it a drug, under the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (the Act).ƒU Many advocates with web sites selling Tahitian Noni Juice have received warning letters from the FDA. The claims these web sites make may cause the product to be a drug under the Act.
Further, in relation to these claims, the FDA has noinformation that the juice is generally recognized as safe, thus it may also be considered a "new drug" under the Act. New drugs cannot be legally marketed in the United States without prior approval from the FDA according to the Act.ƒV
The Federal Trade Commission publishes a brochure called Miracle Health Claims: Add a Dose of Skepticism for consumers who might consider using nutritional and/or food supplements that make grandiose claims of cures and good health. Fraudulently marketed health-related products promise quick cures and easy solutions for many problems. The FTC and the FDA say health fraud promoters target people who are overweight or have serious conditions for which there are no cures.ƒW Some of these conditions include cancer, diabetes, HIV/AIDS, arthritis and weight loss.
False claims are easy to spot. Look for products that claim a quick effective cure-all; statements that claim the product can treat or cure diseases. For example "shrinks tumors" or "cures impotency." Claims of a scientific breakthrough, miraculous cure or secret ingredients are also warning signs that the herbal or dietary supplement may be too good to be true.ƒW
Products sold online are also suspect. Buyers have no way to investigate the product and may not receive what they thought they were buying. Cost is a consideration in examining these nutritional and food supplements. The price of a bottle of Noni Juice varies, ranging from $30 - $100.ƒU
With any nutritional or food supplement where there are fantastic claims of cure or great improvement in health, careful examination is prudent in order to make sure the claims are true, safe, and legal. That said, we don't want to "throw the baby away with the bath water" either. If a product seems reasonable to you, gather information and discuss it with a doctor you already know and trust. Always do your homework, and always consult your physician before trying any health product.
Is this what you are talking about?
Kuurgen
Mar 9th, 2006, 03:49 PM
I lived at the source of the Noni Juice for a year.
Native Tahitians use Noni mainly used as a poultice , it IS NOT a cureall.
Tahitians had a good laugh when I told them how much it's "supposed" to cure.
BTW - You can buy a 55 gallon drum in Polynesia for $85.00 USD.
A typical bottle of Noni from Morinda is like 10% noni and the rest is grapefruit juice or something to cut the godawful taste.
dasaylay
Mar 9th, 2006, 05:31 PM
You can actually buy some of this stuff for about $6 a bottle at some asian supermarkets. My dad is a cancer patient currently and surprisingly it has reduced, and also slowed down the rate of growth of some tumors, so I would give it some credibility. It was recommended by a family friend which apparantly cured her of cancer. I can't guarantee that it's a cureall as there might be varying effects with each individual. Yes, I heard it is a god awful taste and I took a sniff of it and didn't bother tasting it. It's more cost effective to buy a 100% or as close as possible extract and mix it with fruit juice such as apple or grape juice to mask some smell. Some pomegranate extract also helps as it is an incredible anti-oxident. Just my personal experience guys. :)
fantom
Mar 18th, 2006, 08:30 PM
You can actually buy some of this stuff for about $6 a bottle at some asian supermarkets. My dad is a cancer patient currently and surprisingly it has reduced, and also slowed down the rate of growth of some tumors, so I would give it some credibility. It was recommended by a family friend which apparantly cured her of cancer. I can't guarantee that it's a cureall as there might be varying effects with each individual. Yes, I heard it is a god awful taste and I took a sniff of it and didn't bother tasting it. It's more cost effective to buy a 100% or as close as possible extract and mix it with fruit juice such as apple or grape juice to mask some smell. Some pomegranate extract also helps as it is an incredible anti-oxident. Just my personal experience guys. :)
you have any idea which asian supermarkets carry this at $6 a bottle? I'd kill for the information...
the cheapest I've seen it is around $50/litre... which is nuts.
trini
Mar 18th, 2006, 08:43 PM
40.00 at the holistic healing/food show this weekend at the metro convention center.
fantom
Mar 18th, 2006, 08:45 PM
40.00 at the holistic healing/food show this weekend at the metro convention center.
hmm... if they are selling it at $40, then there's a distributor/supplier somewhere that is selling it to them for half that price...
plus it's $10 to get into the metro convention center, so unless you're buying at least half a dozen bottles, it doesn't pay off much...
hot_potato
Mar 18th, 2006, 08:45 PM
Wow! 50 bucks a litre? Used to be 85 bucks a few years back.. glad to see prices dropping. Yeah, they dilute the stuff quite a bit (10%). As for efficacy, I suppose it's similar to other herbal remedies..
Stoe99
Mar 18th, 2006, 08:51 PM
I met Joe Eigo once, he used to come to my high-school. He SWORE by that stuff, he said stuff like it cures the common cold and it helps heal pulled muscles faster and such. He seemed pretty adament and passionate about it.
fantom
Mar 18th, 2006, 08:53 PM
I met Joe Eigo once, he used to come to my high-school. He SWORE by that stuff, he said stuff like it cures the common cold and it helps heal pulled muscles faster and such. He seemed pretty adament and passionate about it.
and I know enough people that can say the same after using it for a while... ;)
Steeve Urkel
Mar 18th, 2006, 09:56 PM
My friends mom used to sell Morinda brand noni juice.
so, I did get to try some.
most people I know who tried it told me it was "expensive grape juice" and didn't see huge effects.
But from what I read it could reduce inflamation because it thins your blood.
Alot of other herbs and medecines from what I read can also thin your blood tho- like ginger, garlic ect...also taking regular Aspirin thins your blood too and is much much cheaper.
The only thing I had noticed with Noni juice for myself was that my digestion was better.
But I doubt that it would help too many people with that as I have a problem with not making enough stomach acid...so anything acidic helps!
I know last year Nutrition house was selling noni juice really cheaply- less than 30? maybe.
haven't been to the store since last year, so don't know the price thesedays.
I would definitly do more reading before taking stuff like this again....
gordholio
Mar 18th, 2006, 10:58 PM
It's another one of those scams - a product that will "cure" anything and everything, yet there is no explanation as to how it "cures".
I am very wary of "health" products that proclaim to be a wonder cure.
Usually these products are sold through multi-level marketing schemes (not all the time) and are very expensive, since the products are presented as unique and has "life saving qualities".
People can use it, but the reason it may work is because of the placebo effect - if you believe something will work, it gives you hope.
Every year or two, another new fad product comes out and the promise is usually that it will "cure" almost anything. Then, when the fad dies down, the marketers start up a new one to make more money.
fantom
Mar 18th, 2006, 11:10 PM
It's another one of those scams - a product that will "cure" anything and everything, yet there is no explanation as to how it "cures".
I am very wary of "health" products that proclaim to be a wonder cure.
Usually these products are sold through multi-level marketing schemes (not all the time) and are very expensive, since the products are presented as unique and has "life saving qualities".
People can use it, but the reason it may work is because of the placebo effect - if you believe something will work, it gives you hope.
Every year or two, another new fad product comes out and the promise is usually that it will "cure" almost anything. Then, when the fad dies down, the marketers start up a new one to make more money.
well, there is obviously more proof that this stuff works to a certain degree, and is good for you... than there is that it's a total B.S...
and NOWHERE did I read that Noni Juice was expected to cure everything... and NOWHERE did I notice that it's sold ONLY through MLM schemes or whatnot... so I dunno why some of you are tripping out so much.
you don't believe it's good for you, keep it to yourself... once you try it and it doesn't do jack to you, then you can bother replying with your personal opinions on the subject ;)
jesus...
Dugg
Mar 19th, 2006, 01:47 AM
Our family has been on TNJ for 9 years and we can honestly say that this Noni juice does actually work! My wife has had terrible allergies for 30 years and this natural product is the only thing that has helped. We were very doubtful and dubious due to many other MLM health items we have tried. Over the years (10 now) There have been many Olympic athletes that endorse Tahitian
Noni Juice not to mention Pro athletes and celebraties (the latest being Danny Glover, of the Leathal Weapon Movies). This product has been used in the equine community in the US for a few years now with amazing results which negates the statement that it is a placebo effect. To be honest with you because of the positive response she has had my wife has become a Tahitian Noni Distributor deleted[/url]
fantom
Mar 19th, 2006, 09:30 AM
Our family has been on TNJ for 9 years and we can honestly say that this Noni juice does actually work! My wife has had terrible allergies for 30 years and this natural product is the only thing that has helped. We were very doubtful and dubious due to many other MLM health items we have tried. Over the years (10 now) There have been many Olympic athletes that endorse Tahitian
Noni Juice not to mention Pro athletes and celebraties (the latest being Danny Glover, of the Leathal Weapon Movies). This product has been used in the equine community in the US for a few years now with amazing results which negates the statement that it is a placebo effect. To be honest with you because of the positive response she has had my wife has become a Tahitian Noni Distributor deleted
cool, $63 a bottle...
you're not helping this quest for the cheaper source of Noni juice here...
nickyb
Mar 19th, 2006, 09:14 PM
Noni juice can be purchased vitually anywhere including Costco but beware of content as the saying is true that you get what you pay for! (I believe Costco is around 30% morinda citrifolia content)
Past post mentioned 10% noni content that is true of some Noni's however not correct with Tahitian Noni as it is 89%Noni 11% grape and blueberry. Some Noni's tested contained absolutely no Morinda Citrifolia at all. So learn how to read the content labels carefully as you are wasting money not saving. You may spend $20.00 for a bottle thinking you are getting a deal but only getting 10% of the bottle being Noni. Tahitian Noni is in the Physicians desk reference for natural remedies.
Anyone interested in any more info may PM me.
Dugg
Mar 21st, 2006, 02:24 AM
I guess you could say that sometimes "you get what you pay for"
gordholio
Mar 21st, 2006, 02:57 AM
I don't have to try it to know it's another snake oil scheme developed by a very smart person.
$63 a bottle and I'll be in the poor house and the maker will be living in the lap of luxury.
Let him (and others) make their millions from other suckers.
nickyb
Mar 21st, 2006, 03:35 PM
Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Research is what is needed before making any decissions!
I feel people should keep those opinions to themselves if they can not be bothered to do any research.
Kai Viti
Mar 21st, 2006, 03:57 PM
You can actually buy some of this stuff for about $6 a bottle at some asian supermarkets. :)
Care to share & point us noni noobs to which Asian supermarkets? Thanks.
Paolo
Mar 21st, 2006, 06:14 PM
Im wondering why they spelled it as Noni juice? It should be spelled Nonni juice. Nonni means Grandparents in Italian. We have this stuff back home in Italy, and its nothing more than a blend of grapes and other fruits juices, which have no preservatives.. I am guessing they called it Nonni juice is because one of the origional creators of this brand or product were elderly, or were someones grandparents, and the name Nonni since means grandparents in italian, the name stuck with them. Many of my italian relatives here in Canada also have talked highly about this Nonni juice. though ive never tried it personally
Kai Viti
Mar 21st, 2006, 06:49 PM
Im wondering why they spelled it as Noni juice? It should be spelled Nonni juice. Nonni means Grandparents in Italian. We have this stuff back home in Italy, and its nothing more than a blend of grapes and other fruits juices, which have no preservatives.. I am guessing they called it Nonni juice is because one of the origional creators of this brand or product were elderly, or were someones grandparents, and the name Nonni since means grandparents in italian, the name stuck with them. Many of my italian relatives here in Canada also have talked highly about this Nonni juice. though ive never tried it personally
Because it isn't Italian? Noni is a bitter fruit from South Pacific mainly - Tahiti, Hawaii, Fiji, etc.
woovic
Apr 8th, 2006, 02:00 AM
Saw some in Costco Calgary for $19.99 (960mL) in the pharmacy section. Made by a company named "Naturally"
Naturally Noni
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woovic
Apr 8th, 2006, 02:02 AM
I think those $60 bottles are manufactured by a company named "Tahitian".
Tahitian Noni
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/6817/nonilg2nh.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
woovic
Apr 8th, 2006, 02:15 AM
By the way, I'm kinda skeptical about how this stuff works... but if it's a scam, someone is making great money at $60 a bottle!
gh05t
Apr 8th, 2006, 03:13 AM
Is it better than yoni juice? :cheesygri
Nothing can be better than Yoni Juice. ;)
My sister live in the Tropics and has a friend who owns a noni tree. Her Friend prepares freshly made Noni Juice for her every week and my sister while she does not swear by it, uses it as part of her regimen in her fight against a non medically explained crippling disease she suffers from and it's free and fresh.
From the little I have read about commercially available Noni juice, the purity and strength of active ingredients differ from brand to brand and depends a lot on shelf life, extraction process etc and price varies considerably so keep in mind the old adage that you get what you pay for.
So thorough research is recommended before embarking on the purchase of Noni Juice.
purple_rabbit
Apr 8th, 2006, 03:24 AM
I think those $60 bottles are manufactured by a company named "Tahitian".
Tahitian Noni
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/6817/nonilg2nh.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
I once had a roommate who ordered a whole box of it!! I honestly don't think this stuff gives you any special powers or anything since the guy didn't change much over the next 8 months lol
nickyb
Apr 10th, 2006, 05:43 PM
what is on Naturally Noni (Costco Brand)
$20.00
Each 30 mL contains:
Medicinal Ingredient:
Noni fruit juice from 10 mL
concentrate (Morinda citrifolia)
Non-medicinal ingredients: purified water ***** note this is their first ingredient....!!!!
natural fruit juice concentrates,
xanthan gum
Manufacture for
Naturally Noni,
Hillside, NJ 07285, USA/E.U.
Distributed by
MMP Enterprises,
33- 103 Industry Street,
Toronto, Ontario M6M 5G3
Compared to
Tahitian Noni
$60.00
same size bottle
89% Noni
11% grape and blueberry
Each batch tested for over 500 contaminants and
quality controlled from tree to bottle. Every bottle has a code on it that allows the company to trace that bottle back to the island tree and who picked the fruit.
So if you poured out 1/3 of the Tahitian noni
bottle and added water you would have the same
amount of Noni in as in the Costco bottle.
quality and quantity
or cheap????????
fantom
Apr 10th, 2006, 11:39 PM
what is on Naturally Noni (Costco Brand)
$20.00
Each 30 mL contains:
Medicinal Ingredient:
Noni fruit juice from 10 mL
concentrate (Morinda citrifolia)
Non-medicinal ingredients: purified water ***** note this is their first ingredient....!!!!
natural fruit juice concentrates,
xanthan gum
Manufacture for
Naturally Noni,
Hillside, NJ 07285, USA/E.U.
Distributed by
MMP Enterprises,
33- 103 Industry Street,
Toronto, Ontario M6M 5G3
Compared to
Tahitian Noni
$60.00
same size bottle
89% Noni
11% grape and blueberry
Each batch tested for over 500 contaminants and
quality controlled from tree to bottle. Every bottle has a code on it that allows the company to trace that bottle back to the island tree and who picked the fruit.
So if you poured out 1/3 of the Tahitian noni
bottle and added water you would have the same
amount of Noni in as in the Costco bottle.
quality and quantity
or cheap????????
it's not exactly as simple as comparing quantities of ingredients and such...
the original Tahitian Noni juice has been made in a certain way where they preserve the certain ingredients in a specific way (thus adding to the quality), whereas all these other ripoffs and cheaper alternatives do not necessarily do that.
gordholio
Apr 11th, 2006, 01:54 AM
Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Research is what is needed before making any decissions!
I feel people should keep those opinions to themselves if they can not be bothered to do any research.
At $63 a bottle, I'll let others do the research. If you can barely pay your bills, what's the use of taking something like this?
nickyb
Apr 11th, 2006, 02:46 PM
You can also have all the money in the world but if you are
not able to enjoy life and spend it, it really does not mean much does it?
Morinda
Jun 6th, 2006, 06:26 PM
Immune System
TAHITIAN NONI® Juice supports the immune system, which strengthens the body's natural ability to fight disease and infection.
Circulatory System, Tissues, and Cells
TAHITIAN NONI® Juice is a superior antioxidant that helps your body rid itself of harmful free radicals and may increase your energy level.
Digestive System
TAHITIAN NONI® Juice supports proper digestion, which means you absorb more nutrients at the cellular level.
Metabolic System
TAHITIAN NONI® Juice boosts the metabolic system, which helps you enjoy increased energy and vitality.
Skin and Hair
Because TAHITIAN NONI® Juice is good for so many systems of the body, it helps give your hair a healthy shine and lets your skin glow.
Other benefits you may notice include extended mental clarity, increased attention span, and greater physical performance.
x-batman
Jun 6th, 2006, 06:30 PM
its $28/litre in Hamilton...
Kuurgen
Jun 6th, 2006, 11:24 PM
it's not exactly as simple as comparing quantities of ingredients and such...
the original Tahitian Noni juice has been made in a certain way where they preserve the certain ingredients in a specific way (thus adding to the quality), whereas all these other ripoffs and cheaper alternatives do not necessarily do that.
What exactly is preserved? How is it processed that makes it different?
Noni is Noni is noni. It grows like weeds in Tahiti. If it rots and falls to the ground, nobody cares, it's thrown in the barrel.
Tahitian noni is called Tahitian Noni because Morinda corp based their marketing on it. If they had just called it Noni they wouldn't have to pay off the French Polynesian government on it.
There is nothing special done to Tahitian Noni over any Noni.
As for the tracking right down to the picker, that's not absolutely true,
there are many free agents buying and selling noni on the islands.
People pay cash up front for it while Morinda cuts a cheque. Guess who people sell their Noni to?
I smell marketing hype in some of these comments.
Bordello
Jun 7th, 2006, 12:01 AM
Wow, that's a lot of vague claims. Has any scientific testing been done to support this? What's the mechanism of action? What are the exact ingredients in the plant extract?
Immune System
TAHITIAN NONI® Juice supports the immune system, which strengthens the body's natural ability to fight disease and infection.
Circulatory System, Tissues, and Cells
TAHITIAN NONI® Juice is a superior antioxidant that helps your body rid itself of harmful free radicals and may increase your energy level.
Digestive System
TAHITIAN NONI® Juice supports proper digestion, which means you absorb more nutrients at the cellular level.
Metabolic System
TAHITIAN NONI® Juice boosts the metabolic system, which helps you enjoy increased energy and vitality.
Skin and Hair
Because TAHITIAN NONI® Juice is good for so many systems of the body, it helps give your hair a healthy shine and lets your skin glow.
Other benefits you may notice include extended mental clarity, increased attention span, and greater physical performance.
K@$H!F
Jun 7th, 2006, 12:20 PM
The Tropical Fruit with 101 Medicinal Uses
Conditions Helped by People Who Drank TAHITIAN NONI® Juice
by Dr. Neil Solomon, M.D., PhD
“This list contains the statistical analysis of the data, including both primary and secondary applications, that I obtained from surveying over 1,227 health care professionals representing over 25,314 TAHITIAN NONI® Juice drinkers from over 80 countries.”
Conditions
# who took TNJ
for that condition
% Helped **
Allergies
3,198
86%
Arthritis
1,675
78%
Asthma
8,077
71%
Cancer
2,188
69%
CEFIDS, Fibromyalgia
3,524
77%
Depression
1,512
80%
Diabetes, Types 1 & 2
5,575
82%
Digestion
3,171
90%
Energy
16,056
90%
Heart Disease
2,158
76%
High Blood Pressure, decreased
1,869
84%
HIV
150
55%
Immune System
3,707
77%
Kidney Disease
3,764
67%
Menstruation
3,798
79%
Mental Acuity, Inc. Alertness
5,543
73%
Multiple Sclerosis
25
52%
Muscle Increase, Body Building
1,216
70%
Obesity, lost some excess weight
5,526
72%
Pain, including headaches
6,828
86%
Parkinson's Disease
25
52%
Respiratory Problems
3,857
72%
Sexual Enhancement Increased
2,984
84%
Skin and Hair Problems
877
78%
Sleep, improved
2,025
75%
Smoking, stopped
876
56%
Stress, coped better
6,743
74%
Stroke
1,806
53%
Well-being, felt better
7,879
80%
** Pooled percentage of people who experienced objective and/or subjective improvement of their symptoms after taking TNJ.
The majority of drinkers who did not get optimal results failed to do so because they either drank a lesser amount and/or drank it for a lesser amount of time than recommended.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
It could help you…It can’t hurt you…and it might change your life!
gordholio
Jun 7th, 2006, 09:06 PM
The Tropical Fruit with 101 Medicinal Uses
Conditions Helped by People Who Drank TAHITIAN NONI® Juice
by Dr. Neil Solomon, M.D., PhD
“This list contains the statistical analysis of the data, including both primary and secondary applications, that I obtained from surveying over 1,227 health care professionals representing over 25,314 TAHITIAN NONI® Juice drinkers from over 80 countries.”
Conditions
# who took TNJ
for that condition
% Helped **
Allergies
3,198
86%
Arthritis
1,675
78%
Asthma
8,077
71%
Cancer
2,188
69%
CEFIDS, Fibromyalgia
3,524
77%
Depression
1,512
80%
Diabetes, Types 1 & 2
5,575
82%
Digestion
3,171
90%
Energy
16,056
90%
Heart Disease
2,158
76%
High Blood Pressure, decreased
1,869
84%
HIV
150
55%
Immune System
3,707
77%
Kidney Disease
3,764
67%
Menstruation
3,798
79%
Mental Acuity, Inc. Alertness
5,543
73%
Multiple Sclerosis
25
52%
Muscle Increase, Body Building
1,216
70%
Obesity, lost some excess weight
5,526
72%
Pain, including headaches
6,828
86%
Parkinson's Disease
25
52%
Respiratory Problems
3,857
72%
Sexual Enhancement Increased
2,984
84%
Skin and Hair Problems
877
78%
Sleep, improved
2,025
75%
Smoking, stopped
876
56%
Stress, coped better
6,743
74%
Stroke
1,806
53%
Well-being, felt better
7,879
80%
** Pooled percentage of people who experienced objective and/or subjective improvement of their symptoms after taking TNJ.
The majority of drinkers who did not get optimal results failed to do so because they either drank a lesser amount and/or drank it for a lesser amount of time than recommended.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
It could help you…It can’t hurt you…and it might change your life!
I don't buy into this hype.
Bordello
Jun 7th, 2006, 09:11 PM
What's the source? A study by one person isn't very reliable.
The Tropical Fruit with 101 Medicinal Uses
Conditions Helped by People Who Drank TAHITIAN NONI® Juice
by Dr. Neil Solomon, M.D., PhD
“This list contains the statistical analysis of the data, including both primary and secondary applications, that I obtained from surveying over 1,227 health care professionals representing over 25,314 TAHITIAN NONI® Juice drinkers from over 80 countries.”
Conditions
# who took TNJ
for that condition
% Helped **
Allergies
3,198
86%
Arthritis
1,675
78%
Asthma
8,077
71%
Cancer
2,188
69%
CEFIDS, Fibromyalgia
3,524
77%
Depression
1,512
80%
Diabetes, Types 1 & 2
5,575
82%
Digestion
3,171
90%
Energy
16,056
90%
Heart Disease
2,158
76%
High Blood Pressure, decreased
1,869
84%
HIV
150
55%
Immune System
3,707
77%
Kidney Disease
3,764
67%
Menstruation
3,798
79%
Mental Acuity, Inc. Alertness
5,543
73%
Multiple Sclerosis
25
52%
Muscle Increase, Body Building
1,216
70%
Obesity, lost some excess weight
5,526
72%
Pain, including headaches
6,828
86%
Parkinson's Disease
25
52%
Respiratory Problems
3,857
72%
Sexual Enhancement Increased
2,984
84%
Skin and Hair Problems
877
78%
Sleep, improved
2,025
75%
Smoking, stopped
876
56%
Stress, coped better
6,743
74%
Stroke
1,806
53%
Well-being, felt better
7,879
80%
** Pooled percentage of people who experienced objective and/or subjective improvement of their symptoms after taking TNJ.
The majority of drinkers who did not get optimal results failed to do so because they either drank a lesser amount and/or drank it for a lesser amount of time than recommended.
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It could help you…It can’t hurt you…and it might change your life!
lkn4deals
Jun 7th, 2006, 09:12 PM
I don't buy into this hype.
that's great...may I ask why you are repeatedly posting in this thread to tell us the same thing again and again?
kitty darko
Jun 9th, 2006, 09:12 AM
I'm sure this stuff that really is just juice does help make people feel better when they're feeling a little under the weather due to the natural vitamins and such in it but I don't believe that it's all that people say it is. I had a friend who was convinced by a Noni Juice seller that this stuff would make his cancer go away or at least control it enough so that the chemo and radiation therapy could do the rest. He spent a fortune on the stuff, followed the instructions to a T and still died a horrible and painful death.
I talk to people who endorse this product and ask them what proof or study exists that shows that this juice works. I try to keep an open mind because I know that not every treatment works for every person. But really the only answers I get are "Well, it's by word of mouth." and "Just stories I hear from people who drink it." I have to admit that this isn't very compelling evidence as breakthroughs are usually heavily supported in the medical society with years and years of study and research. Remember the craze over Barley Green about 10 years ago? Same fad that came and went.
If this stuff actually works, don't you think the Cancer Society, the Heart and Stroke Foundation, etc. would come out and encourage people to use it? What better way to spread the word than to have a respected foundation endorse it? It seems that all the current support from the doctors are all backed by the Noni Juice company. All these testimonials and surveys are from their own people and therefore skewed. Aren't there any independent studies that are non-biased that would be more trustworthy? Just my 2 cents.
Kai Viti
Jun 9th, 2006, 01:16 PM
How does Noni compare to other tonics of this genre like GOJI from Himalayas and LIMU from Tonga?
K@$H!F
Jun 9th, 2006, 08:28 PM
Comparisson - Noni, Mangosteen, and Goji
Click (on site below) to read 3 documents done up by Jeff Nesbitt rom Phoenix, Arizona comparing Noni with Mangosteen and Goji. It was compiled from Dr. Dukes web site at www.arsgrin.gov/duke Dr. Duke is a world renowned ethnobotanist who spent 30 years with the USDA, has written 29 books and maintains the worlds most complete database of biological activities of foods and herbs. Print each out, lay them all out on a table and compare the "Antitumor", "Anticancer", "Antioxidents", "Cancer prevent" and even the "Anitumer". You will notice that Noni has 389 uses as to only 201 for Mangosteen and only 157 for Goji.
http://www.noniusers.com/downline/support/pdf/comparison.pdf
mannyb
Jun 9th, 2006, 09:24 PM
I tried Noni for a while. Did nothing for me & it taste like crap. I'm more of a believer in modern medicine, excercise, and diet instead of taking this quack doctor remedy crap. If it's a cure all as many claim, why don't I see Onconlogists recommending it to their cancer patients?
poedua
Jun 9th, 2006, 09:30 PM
I'm sure this stuff that really is just juice does help make people feel better when they're feeling a little under the weather due to the natural vitamins and such in it but I don't believe that it's all that people say it is. I had a friend who was convinced by a Noni Juice seller that this stuff would make his cancer go away or at least control it enough so that the chemo and radiation therapy could do the rest. He spent a fortune on the stuff, followed the instructions to a T and still died a horrible and painful death.
I talk to people who endorse this product and ask them what proof or study exists that shows that this juice works. I try to keep an open mind because I know that not every treatment works for every person. But really the only answers I get are "Well, it's by word of mouth." and "Just stories I hear from people who drink it." I have to admit that this isn't very compelling evidence as breakthroughs are usually heavily supported in the medical society with years and years of study and research. Remember the craze over Barley Green about 10 years ago? Same fad that came and went.
If this stuff actually works, don't you think the Cancer Society, the Heart and Stroke Foundation, etc. would come out and encourage people to use it? What better way to spread the word than to have a respected foundation endorse it? It seems that all the current support from the doctors are all backed by the Noni Juice company. All these testimonials and surveys are from their own people and therefore skewed. Aren't there any independent studies that are non-biased that would be more trustworthy? Just my 2 cents.
You're bang on..this Noni juice is a scam IMO..I know of no studies in reptuable journals that have purported to scientifically prove it's medicinal benefits.
It's all anecdotal evidence ....." snake oil " IMO.
mannyb
Jun 9th, 2006, 09:40 PM
Yes it's anecdotal evidence at best. When you ask someone who promotes this crap to produce irrefutable scientific evidence/studies, they can't. Show me studies done by a reputable medical school which says Noni works. And don't show me evidence by some doctor who got their degree from a box of Kelloggs cereal. It's always some study done by a doctor in some third world country who paid USD $50 to get some medical diploma from the University of Diplomas are Cheap. Show me where the Harvard School of Medicine or John Hopkins Medical School says this stuff works on their patients. Show me!!
gordholio
Jun 9th, 2006, 10:33 PM
How long has noni juice been available in North America?
Not many years I would suppose.
When something is new, some marketers try to make it appear like it's better than other juices - orange, apple, etc.
Why is it so expensive compared to other fruit juices?
gordholio
Jun 9th, 2006, 10:35 PM
that's great...may I ask why you are repeatedly posting in this thread to tell us the same thing again and again?
Because other people are repeatedly saying the same hype. :)
Geese_Howard
Jun 9th, 2006, 10:38 PM
bump for punani juice! :lol:
mannyb
Jun 9th, 2006, 11:18 PM
bump for punani juice! :lol:Now that's real juice!!
ronin893
Jun 9th, 2006, 11:50 PM
And don't show me evidence by some doctor who got their degree from a box of Kelloggs cereal. I take it that you're not a believer on Dr. John Kellogg's theories? Not sure of you intended it or not, but I find it hilarious that you alluded to a personality who was associated with one of the more famous health fads of the 19th century.
Anyone not familiar with Dr. Kellogg should read this.
http://www.rotten.com/library/sex/masturbation/kelloggs-cornflakes/
mannyb
Jun 10th, 2006, 01:21 AM
Mmmmmm....Cornflakes & Noni juice. Breakfast of Champions!
poedua
Jun 10th, 2006, 09:45 AM
Yes it's anecdotal evidence at best. When you ask someone who promotes this crap to produce irrefutable scientific evidence/studies, they can't. Show me studies done by a reputable medical school which says Noni works. And don't show me evidence by some doctor who got their degree from a box of Kelloggs cereal. It's always some study done by a doctor in some third world country who paid USD $50 to get some medical diploma from the University of Diplomas are Cheap. Show me where the Harvard School of Medicine or John Hopkins Medical School says this stuff works on their patients. Show me!!
Great post.
Couldn't agree more.
NONI - No One Needs It :)
poedua
Jun 10th, 2006, 09:57 AM
The Tropical Fruit with 101 Medicinal Uses
Conditions Helped by People Who Drank TAHITIAN NONI® Juice
by Dr. Neil Solomon, M.D., PhD
“This list contains the statistical analysis of the data, including both primary and secondary applications, that I obtained from surveying over 1,227 health care professionals representing over 25,314 TAHITIAN NONI® Juice drinkers from over 80 countries.”
Conditions
# who took TNJ
for that condition
% Helped **
Allergies
3,198
86%
Arthritis
1,675
78%
Asthma
8,077
71%
Cancer
2,188
69%
CEFIDS, Fibromyalgia
3,524
77%
Depression
1,512
80%
Diabetes, Types 1 & 2
5,575
82%
Digestion
3,171
90%
Energy
16,056
90%
Heart Disease
2,158
76%
High Blood Pressure, decreased
1,869
84%
HIV
150
55%
Immune System
3,707
77%
Kidney Disease
3,764
67%
Menstruation
3,798
79%
Mental Acuity, Inc. Alertness
5,543
73%
Multiple Sclerosis
25
52%
Muscle Increase, Body Building
1,216
70%
Obesity, lost some excess weight
5,526
72%
Pain, including headaches
6,828
86%
Parkinson's Disease
25
52%
Respiratory Problems
3,857
72%
Sexual Enhancement Increased
2,984
84%
Skin and Hair Problems
877
78%
Sleep, improved
2,025
75%
Smoking, stopped
876
56%
Stress, coped better
6,743
74%
Stroke
1,806
53%
Well-being, felt better
7,879
80%
** Pooled percentage of people who experienced objective and/or subjective improvement of their symptoms after taking TNJ.
The majority of drinkers who did not get optimal results failed to do so because they either drank a lesser amount and/or drank it for a lesser amount of time than recommended.
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It could help you…It can’t hurt you…and it might change your life!
I'll pick out one of those real easy claims above - energy.
You get energy for your muscles from carbs. Call me a skeptic, but when it comes to juice, carbs are carbs IMO...and when it comes to carbs, juice is juice....Noni, orange, grape, apple etc.- whatever.
If I buy a 6 pack of Powerade 365 g ( 12 oz ) bottles, they're about a $1 each per bottle ...for that, according to the nutironal lable, I get about 29 grams of carbs in a bottle of Powerade.
Powerade cost per gram of carb ........ 3.4 cents.
A bottle of Noni is about $50 ( Cdn ) per 1 litre ( 32 oz ) bottle. Each litre bottle of Noni has just under 100 grams of carbs in it.
Noni cost per gram of carb .............50 cents.
Noni is just juice ( Pure Juice Puree from French Polynesia, Natural Grape Juice Concentrate, Natural Blueberry Juice Concentrate, and Natural Flavors - per the website ) and the cost of a gram of carbs is 14 times more than a sports drink ! Let me put it another way........
- A bottle of Powerade ( 12 oz/ 365 grams ) will give you 29 carbs to fuel your muscles...... cost is $1.
- To get 29 carb grams from Noni, you need 10 oz - equivalent cost for 29 grams ...............cost is $15 !!!!!
You say " It can’t hurt you " - I say it can - in the pocket book. !!!!!
Want more energy ? Powerade for $1 ...Noni for $15 - it speaks for itself. :)
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