Any changed there winter tires to all season yet? [Archive]

Rehan

Mar 8th, 2006, 08:30 AM

deep

Mar 8th, 2006, 08:35 AM

Was just saying the same thing to the wife last night....what was the point of winter tires this year?

I think I'll change mine out this weekend.

FastFokker

Mar 8th, 2006, 08:40 AM

I`m in N.S. so we`ve got a ways to go yet .Really? But it's been so nice lately!

We really haven't had much of a winter.. it snowed a few times, but it never stayed and we rarely were much below zero. I quite enjoyed this "winter".

But that's because I'm a summer person.

Bullseye

Mar 8th, 2006, 09:00 AM

I'm bringing my summer car out of storage next weekend, it only has summer performance tires on it. However, this car is not our main family vehicle, if we get hit with a big snow storm, I can just park it and wait till it's nice again.

I can't wait to get rid of my winter beater, even though it's been a great car (15 year old Tercel).

GunnerX

Mar 8th, 2006, 09:11 AM

I usually change my tires in the 3rd week of April. A couple of years ago it was really nice in March so I changed to summer tires early. Then there was a snow storm in early April and it was not fun driving with summer tires on. Even though the winter tires are very loud, I don't mind waiting a couple more weeks. :)

yelworC_

Mar 8th, 2006, 09:18 AM

Hey just wondering if you guys/girls changed your winter tires back to all season yet?

Since the average (not maximum) temperature in GTA has not been above 7C for at least 5 consecutive days the answer is NO.

tsis3

Mar 8th, 2006, 09:18 AM

I've thought about it, but haven't done it yet. It'll probably get done on one of the cars this week, and then I'll do the other one in April after the Costco tire sale starts (need to get new tires on that one anyway).

Costco tire sale starts in April? That's a good news, I have to get new all-season tires for my car :)

Rehan

Mar 8th, 2006, 09:19 AM

Costco tire sale starts in April? That's a good news, I have to get new all-season tires for my car :) March 27 to April 30 this year.

tsis3

Mar 8th, 2006, 09:26 AM

March 27 to April 30 this year.

Cool! Thanks! :)

robattoronto

Mar 8th, 2006, 09:32 AM

After looking at the 14 day forecast, it looks like there's going to be a dip below 0 coming up late next week and through that weekend and goes up from there. So methinks, I'll change it after next week.

The threshold the way I see it is, around zero fluctuations + freezing rain.

sleepyguy

Mar 8th, 2006, 10:01 AM

I'll probably change mine in mid-April.

700mb80min

Mar 8th, 2006, 10:05 AM

Really? But it's been so nice lately!

We really haven't had much of a winter.. it snowed a few times, but it never stayed and we rarely were much below zero. I quite enjoyed this "winter".

But that's because I'm a summer person.

definately a great winter for us . especially due to the fact that i only had to plow the driveway twice , and most of the snow melted within a week . had a bit of a cold snap but the next week is sure to be nice . but then again , we have been hit with nor-easter`s well after this period . ;)

HighFlyer

Mar 8th, 2006, 10:24 AM

Not until April.

gilboman

Mar 8th, 2006, 10:30 AM

why would you change it when winter is not over yet :confused: makes no sense.

Bullseye

Mar 8th, 2006, 10:34 AM

why would you change it when winter is not over yet :confused: makes no sense.

My brother in law is always eager to change them asap because he doesn't like the ride of his winter tires compared to his z-rated summers, changes the whole 'driving experience' for him. But I know what you mean, I wouldn't risk doing it with my main driving vehicle.

nsx

Mar 8th, 2006, 10:43 AM

I'll probably change mine in mid-April.

Same here. ;)

Rehan

Mar 8th, 2006, 10:43 AM

In warm weather, the softer rubber compound on winter tires wears away a lot quicker than in winter.

http://www.theweathernetwork.ca/weather/cities/can/Pages/CAON0696.htm#longTerm

gilboman

Mar 8th, 2006, 11:03 AM

In warm weather, the softer rubber compound on winter tires wears away a lot quicker than in winter.

http://www.theweathernetwork.ca/weather/cities/can/Pages/CAON0696.htm#longTerm

ya but avg temp is not even near 7 degrees yet. and there's still some cold and ice/snow left yet that could come.

kmltick

Mar 8th, 2006, 11:03 AM

I figure I'll change my tires at the end of the month or beginning of April.

This is the first week in which we've had nice weather in Toronto, and I'm sure mother nature would like to give us one more slap in the face before it's over for good measure.

Rehan

Mar 8th, 2006, 11:07 AM

ya but avg temp is not even near 7 degrees yet. and there's still some cold and ice/snow left yet that could come. That's why I'm changing them on only one car at this point. :) There may be one or two days left where winter tires will be useful, and I can choose the appropriate vehicle for those days.

gilboman

Mar 8th, 2006, 11:15 AM

That's why I'm changing them on only one car at this point. :) There may be one or two days left where winter tires will be useful, and I can choose the appropriate vehicle for those days.

i get your point, if i had two cars i would do the same, but if i swtiched my summers on and there is even a little bit of snow or ice i'm not going anywhere :lol:

bensa138

Mar 8th, 2006, 11:42 AM

I'm probably goign to swap to summer's on my Integra this weekend... My reason is because I have developed a slow leak in both rear tires and I'm too cheap to repair them.... since spring is around the corner I guess I'll just get a head start and tip toe around or take the bus if it snows again.

lumlum1013

Mar 8th, 2006, 12:00 PM

I'll go back to Summer Mode once the salt is clearly clean up on the GTA roads.....

bembol

Mar 9th, 2006, 04:44 PM

Will have to keep my Winters until I get my 5Zigen GN+ 17s this April...!!!

mudmojo

Mar 9th, 2006, 07:47 PM

Even though she's a toy/non-daily driver, the easter/halloween rule of thumb has served me well.

Course there was the odd year I ran studded Hakka2's well deep into a Toronto August... aight!

akito925

Mar 10th, 2006, 12:33 PM

not util the that salt dust, sand and dust is cleared.. not until the street cleaners clean the roads.. the highways still white from the salt.. and dust.. so no.. not yet..

Anessa

Mar 10th, 2006, 10:09 PM

Mid to the end of April when May showers start coming. I have a feeling that winter's not gone just yet...

bensa138

Mar 10th, 2006, 11:11 PM

Even though she's a toy/non-daily driver, the easter/halloween rule of thumb has served me well.

Course there was the odd year I ran studded Hakka2's well deep into a Toronto August... aight!

Studded tires are illegal in Ontario!

B0000rt

Mar 10th, 2006, 11:38 PM

Went and ordered the Kumho SPTs.

Don't wanna get caught in the rush of people buying tires! Should be ready by Monday, then they go back into storage until I can be sure that them Summer Only tires won't ever see snow!

bug

Mar 11th, 2006, 12:48 AM

I usually wait until April to change my tires.

ch1zo

Mar 11th, 2006, 01:34 AM

from recent years, ive always stuck to waiting til the last week of march or first week of april

NLI10D

Mar 11th, 2006, 03:17 PM

here is where i can see the advantage of WRs

mlc2000

Mar 11th, 2006, 04:13 PM

Bullseye

Mar 11th, 2006, 06:09 PM

What kinda car is that?

'87 Mustang Cobra. It's my second baby, less than 100K km on it.

jr!

Mar 11th, 2006, 06:50 PM

I'll probably do it mid April maybe over Easter.
I need to buy new summer rubber for my car as well.

commie

Mar 28th, 2006, 11:05 AM

Who has taken off their winter tires?

I am debating whether to take off my winter tires and hardtop off of my convertible this week..

I know murphy's law, that after I take the tires off and put in my summer stickies..there will be a big snowstorm..hahaha

Spray

Mar 28th, 2006, 11:50 AM

got mine off! Toyo Proxies T1-S
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/8/web/680000-680999/680985_10_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/8/web/680000-680999/680985_11_full.jpg

Mariano_Deals

Mar 28th, 2006, 11:57 AM

Got to take mine off soon!

wrcfocus

Mar 28th, 2006, 12:03 PM

Definetely take them off. I shoulda took them off last weekend :(, they're taking a beating with these warm temperatures.

Just checked the weater network no snow for the next 14 days!!
http://www.theweathernetwork.com/weather/14day/pages/CAON0696.htm

expergo

Mar 28th, 2006, 12:49 PM

took winters off 2 weeks ago! :)

xien0n

Mar 28th, 2006, 12:49 PM

Changed them last weekend. I saw the forecast for this week and the fact that there was no line up at Costco made me do it. Car looks so much better now without those ugly black steel wheels.

Anessa

Mar 28th, 2006, 12:50 PM

Soon enough if this pretty weather keeps up and we don't get any surprises like Edmonton or Nfld.

robattoronto

Mar 28th, 2006, 01:07 PM

Took mine off yesterday. Handles so much better now. Glad to not have to see the ugly rims anymore too. Bring on the summer!

ronin893

Mar 28th, 2006, 01:32 PM

Not going to take off mine. I need new winter tires next winter so I'm going to drive my old ones in the summer.

timmui

Mar 28th, 2006, 02:04 PM

Not going to take off mine. I need new winter tires next winter so I'm going to drive my old ones in the summer.

that will kill your mpg..
plus it is easier to skid with winter tires on in summer and put other people on the road in danger

Webhead

Mar 28th, 2006, 02:35 PM

Changing to my 3 season tires this weekend. As someone mentioned the next 14 days looks like Spring weather and no snow.

King James

Mar 28th, 2006, 02:48 PM

Where do you guys change them if you don't have the equipments yourself? I am afraid I will damage my summer alloy wheels.

myapple

Mar 28th, 2006, 03:13 PM

Where do you guys change them if you don't have the equipments yourself? I am afraid I will damage my summer alloy wheels.
If your summer tires are already pre-mounted on your alloy wheels, you can easily swap them with your winter tires/rims. All you need is a crow bar (or torque wrench preferrably) and a car jack (with jack stands preferrably).

bembol

Mar 28th, 2006, 03:19 PM

Changing either tomorrow or Thursday...I bought my 17's last night...5Zigen GN+ Pro with Fuzion ZRi and Rays Lugs @ tires23...$2,300...!!!

I'll start a thread/post pics...also putting up my Kumho's KW11 Winters up for sale

RBK

Mar 28th, 2006, 03:24 PM

I've had my summers on since the first week of march. ;)

King James

Mar 28th, 2006, 05:00 PM

If your summer tires are already pre-mounted on your alloy wheels, you can easily swap them with your winter tires/rims. All you need is a crow bar (or torque wrench preferrably) and a car jack (with jack stands preferrably).

Is the alloy wheels easier to be damaged? Could I measure how much torque I apply to them?

timmui

Mar 28th, 2006, 05:36 PM

Is the alloy wheels easier to be damaged? Could I measure how much torque I apply to them?

USUALLY around 60-68 ft/lb

Wiseman

Mar 28th, 2006, 05:46 PM

Changed the tires on one car.. the other still has winters on them. Does anyone know when Costco has their 'annual' tire sale?

Rehan

Mar 28th, 2006, 05:47 PM

Changed the tires on one car.. the other still has winters on them. Does anyone know when Costco has their 'annual' tire sale? The latest set of weekly coupons has a $60 coupon ($15 per tire) for Michelin tires, valid from March 27 - April 30...nothing for the other brands, though.

ronin893

Mar 29th, 2006, 02:05 AM

that will kill your mpg..
plus it is easier to skid with winter tires on in summer and put other people on the road in dangerI know that, but you got any hard numbers? I don't want to go through the hassle of changing to all-seasons now and back to winters next November. So how much more gas would I waste? $20?

mannyb

Mar 29th, 2006, 07:32 AM

I know that, but you got any hard numbers? I don't want to go through the hassle of changing to all-seasons now and back to winters next November. So how much more gas would I waste? $20?Just "google" it. There's lots of evidence why winter tires shouldn't be used in the summer. The structural integrity maybe compromised as they're not designed to be used in hot temperatures....hence the term "winter" tires.

timmui

Mar 29th, 2006, 08:00 AM

I know that, but you got any hard numbers? I don't want to go through the hassle of changing to all-seasons now and back to winters next November. So how much more gas would I waste? $20?

If you have the summer on rims already, it's going to take less than 40mins to swap even only with hand tools.
If not, it's not a bad idea to mount your summer on the original alloy rims and your next set of winter on some cheap steelies. This save you the money for tire balancing and mounting every now and then if you store them right.

B0000rt

Mar 29th, 2006, 09:28 AM

Eeeeeeeep.

I always have a feeling that it's gonna dump a little, even abit of flurries before mid April.

And my off Winter tires, are now summer tires, so I'd rather risk my Winters wearing abit more, rather than skiing around the city with my summers.

ronin893

Mar 29th, 2006, 11:22 AM

Just "google" it. There's lots of evidence why winter tires shouldn't be used in the summer. The structural integrity maybe compromised as they're not designed to be used in hot temperatures....hence the term "winter" tires.I did. I didn't find anything. Just other message boards where some guys say not to use winter tires in summer. Do you have any links for me?

If you have the summer on rims already, it's going to take less than 40mins to swap even only with hand tools.Yes, I do. It's going to take 80 minutes actually. I still need to reinstall the winters when I go buy new tires because I can't fit all 4 wheels in the trunk.

warpdrive

Mar 29th, 2006, 11:40 AM

I changed over to summer tires today

kmltick

Mar 29th, 2006, 02:49 PM

Finally got to changing them on the weekend. Fortunately my summers are all seasons anyways, so it'll definitely be able to take any light snow coming our way.

belgiangenius

Mar 29th, 2006, 02:55 PM

Hey just wondering if you guys/girls changed your winter tires back to all season yet?

I don't use winter tires.

Since most winter tires provide worse performance on wet and dry roads than regular all-seasons do, and even in winter the road is not snow or ice covered 90% of the time, you're just sacrificing your safety 90% of the time to achieve improved safety 10% of the time when the road is actually icey or snowy.

Doesn't make any sense to me.

timmui

Mar 29th, 2006, 03:11 PM

I don't use winter tires.

Since most winter tires provide worse performance on wet and dry roads than regular all-seasons do, and even in winter the road is not snow or ice covered 90% of the time, you're just sacrificing your safety 90% of the time to achieve improved safety 10% of the time when the road is actually icey or snowy.

Doesn't make any sense to me.

The rubber material winter tires use doesn't harden/freeze under certain degree of temperature like summer tires do.
So you do benefit from using them in the winter even with no snow.

I do agree many winter tires do very poorly on ice.

belgiangenius

Mar 29th, 2006, 03:16 PM

The rubber material winter tires use doesn't harden/freeze under certain degree of temperature like summer tires do.
So you do benefit from using them in the winter even with no snow.

I do agree many winter tires do very poorly on ice.

That's not what Consumer Reports recently reported.

Virtually all winter tires it tested did worse on dry and wet roads in winter than decent all season radials did.

The winter tires only had the edge on snow covered and icey roads, which we see, what, maybe 10% of the time? They're pretty quick at clearing roads here in Toronto.

timmui

Mar 29th, 2006, 03:32 PM

That's not what Consumer Reports recently reported.

Virtually all winter tires it tested did worse on dry and wet roads in winter than decent all season radials did.

The winter tires only had the edge on snow covered and icey roads, which we see, what, maybe 10% of the time? They're pretty quick at clearing roads here in Toronto.

I do see your point, it really depends on which part of the country you are living in.
If you live in some place that is constantly -15 to -20C in winter, it's better to have them on than all season.

belgiangenius

Mar 29th, 2006, 04:10 PM

I do see your point, it really depends on which part of the country you are living in.
If you live in some place that is constantly -15 to -20C in winter, it's better to have them on than all season.

Agreed. I'm sure they're needed in Quebec.

mannyb

Mar 29th, 2006, 06:16 PM

Agreed. I'm sure they're needed in Quebec.70% of Quebecers use winter tires.

myapple

Mar 29th, 2006, 06:18 PM

I don't use winter tires.

Since most winter tires provide worse performance on wet and dry roads than regular all-seasons do, and even in winter the road is not snow or ice covered 90% of the time, you're just sacrificing your safety 90% of the time to achieve improved safety 10% of the time when the road is actually icey or snowy.

Doesn't make any sense to me.
My winter tires handle just fine on wet and dry roads. no sacrifice what so ever! I wouldn't mind using them all year round if it wasn't for the fact that they are loud and wear down quicker in warm weather due to their softness. winter tires are a 1000% improvement over my all seasons in snowy weather. :D

B0000rt

Mar 29th, 2006, 07:06 PM

That's not what Consumer Reports recently reported.

Virtually all winter tires it tested did worse on dry and wet roads in winter than decent all season radials did.

The winter tires only had the edge on snow covered and icey roads, which we see, what, maybe 10% of the time? They're pretty quick at clearing roads here in Toronto.
Well look at it this way:

You sacrifice abit of dry and wet traction/handling or ALOT of snow handling.

And besides, if you say that 10% of the time your winter tires actually do see snow, of that 10%, you only need one scenario in which your winter tires allow you to stop faster to avoid an accident, to make them worthwhile, right?

commie

Mar 29th, 2006, 10:46 PM

I just took my winters off today....and put in my summer's....17 inch Racing Hart, with Toyo proxies..

Felt so good to really drive on a nice set of stickies, instead of the winters..

Then took my hardtop off...and went cruising around topless..

wow....Driving with the top down in march is a great feeling...

ieatkittens

Mar 30th, 2006, 09:06 PM

What do you guys do to your summers before you remount them?

Do you check the tire pressure or anything like that?

joshmxpx

Apr 1st, 2006, 02:28 PM

Where should I get a cheap set of all seasons from? I need four 13s, Crappy Tire has some on sale for $40 each, are those okay? Anything is better than what I have now, I just don't want to pay over $200 for 4 new tires. Walmart also has some cheap tires that I saw.

Also, when I take the winter tires off the rims and put the all seasons on, where do I go in the fall to get them changed again? For a tire swap, how much would a shop charge?

weedb0y

Apr 1st, 2006, 02:31 PM

baymoe

Apr 1st, 2006, 07:04 PM

Just got my rims with Yoko ES100 tires on the car and it was totally awesome. The amount of grip and responsiveness was phenomenal compared to my winters, but what's better is that it made my Falken Ziex 512s feel like they're all seasons :cheesygri .