FS Panasonic DVD recorder $199

[sockboy]

Futureshop has the DMRES20 DVD recorder on for $100 off the regular price of $299. (so $199 now - but there are only 5 left to order online)

This seems to be a pretty reliable model based on web reviews.

Good deal? I was also looking at the LG 536 for $249.

Any major advantages of one vs the other?

[kingofwit]

Thanks. I was looking for a new DVD recorder and was considering another liteon, but I think I will give this one a try as it has decent reviews.

Also there seems to be a firmware update on the Panasonic support site but only a few details on what is updated.

[Gymbag]

Check cnet for a good review of this product:

http://reviews.cnet.com/Panasonic_DMR_ES20S/4505-9141_7-31497649.html?tag=tpr

Unfortunately it says it has no "IR blaster", which means that for digital set-top boxes that have only one incoming channel, you need to have the right channel set on the box in order for the recorder to pick up the right program.

At least, that's the way I read it. Maybe a DVD recording expert will chip in here.

P.S. 3 left.

[sockboy]

Well they must have found some more! It now says 14 available!

[mahjongmaniac]

LINK (http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10063216&catid=22226)

http://www.futureshop.ca/multimedia/products/large/10063216.jpg

[Wiseman]

It says 14 left for me.

Does anyone know if the discs recorded on this unit can be played on other dvd players?

[alkapone]

It says 14 left for me.

Does anyone know if the discs recorded on this unit can be played on other dvd players?


I would think so.....they do with other Panny DVD recorders/players.
I have an E80HD....love it....Ram discs work only with Panny players (most) that play Ram. Ram discs are like little Hard Drives. Try and buy in the US.

DVD-r generally plays well on most of the later version DVD players.

I also have an Panny DVD player....saves wear and tear on recorder (allows me to record while watching a disc on a PLAYER only)
Also player is much faster to read and play a disc....than the recorder...at least with my setup.

A HD is VERY nice to have but the RAMS do a good job...if u have enough of them.....and u can always share with another PANNY owner.

US Amyzon price is $150 so this is a good price

[Freelancer-Mountaineer]

Can you record from VCR to DVD player with this machine? I have a bunch of VHS tapes to transfer onto DVD.

[alkapone]

Amyzon.com Product Description
Record your home movies and your favorite TV programs easily to DVD disc with the Panasonic DMR-ES20 progressive scan recorder/player, which can record to write-once DVD+R and DVD-R media or rewritable DVD-RW and DVD-RAM discs (the latter being a great choice for temporary storage of recorded material as it can be rewritten more than DVD-RW). It's easy to record TV programming with the built-in analog TV tuner with RF pass-through and seven-day electronic programming guide (EPG). In addition to standard DVD movie and CD audio discs and its compatible recordable formats, the DMR-ES20 can play back DVD+RW, CD-R/RW, VCD, JPEG, and MP3.
Panasonic's Time Slip function consists of two features designed to give you added flexibility and control when making DVD recordings: Chasing Playback and Simultaneous Record & Play. With Chasing Playback, you don't have to wait for an entire program to be recorded before watching it from beginning to end. This feature allows you to watch a program that's currently being recorded from any point that's already been recorded--while continuing to record the live program in progress. Simultaneous Record & Play allows you to record a program onto a disc while simultaneously watching any other program that's previously been recorded on the same disc.

You can set your recorder to one of five different recording speeds, each varying in recording quality and length. EP mode yields the most recording time, LP & SP modes provide less recording time with higher quality recording, and XP mode gives you the highest quality recording. There's also the FR (Flexible Recording) mode that lets you record with the best picture quality possible for the recording time and remaining space on the disc.

[Aske001]

This is the place to find out all about these Panasonics and other competing models:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=106
(most active DVD Recorders forum)

Keep in mind that almost all DVD recorders comply with copy protection rules, i.e., they will not copy a commercial VHS tape or DVD source with Macrovision copy protection. Some premium cable and satellite channels are also now starting to use the same copy protection to prevent DVD copying, most notably HBO (but not so far in Canada as far as I know).

[kingofwit]

Going to have to cancel my order with FS as I just found out that there is no Chapters (Chaptering?) available for DVDR (only DVD-RAM!). Read it first on Cnet then I downloaded the manual to confirm.

Not for me.

[aw124]

When you finalize a disk at the end, it will create chapters every 5 minutes.

Going to have to cancel my order with FS as I just found out that there is no Chapters (Chaptering?) available for DVDR (only DVD-RAM!). Read it first on Cnet then I downloaded the manual to confirm.

Not for me.

[microBe]

Going to have to cancel my order with FS as I just found out that there is no Chapters (Chaptering?) available for DVDR (only DVD-RAM!). Read it first on Cnet then I downloaded the manual to confirm.


If the ES20 is like the ES10 it replaces, then it will automatically create a new chapter every 5 minutes when you finalize a DVD-R.

[burnaby]

So this device won't back up DVD movies?
Any reason NOT to use a DVD burner with software like AnyDVD and DVDClone?
Like to hear what others are using this for, thanks?
This is the place to find out all about these Panasonics and other competing models:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=106
(most active DVD Recorders forum)

Keep in mind that almost all DVD recorders comply with copy protection rules, i.e., they will not copy a commercial VHS tape or DVD source with Macrovision copy protection. Some premium cable and satellite channels are also now starting to use the same copy protection to prevent DVD copying, most notably HBO (but not so far in Canada as far as I know).

[bembol]

Can you EDIT the Commercials out...???

[alkapone]

Can you EDIT the Commercials out...???


I believe so...

[alkapone]

Backing up movies.....
Copy from TV no problem...
Copy Commercial DVD?....will prob need a device..I have one but prefer PC and burner..much easier and faster. With Recorder...slower.
Best to use a PC and Burner.

[Sprite_TM]

how many 480dpi or ????? u know what i mean?

[tenthirteen78]

Ok this a bit off topic, but how do you setup to record from a digital receiver while being able to watch different channels?

If you have......

a digital cable receiver with coax + composite connections

a dvd recorder with coax in/out, component, svideo, composite

a tv with coax, composite, component and svideo

does the dvd recorder have to have this IR blaster feature for this to work?

Thanks.

[ElectricEclipse]

Just bought the last one at Heart Land. Trinity Common Fs is sold out, luckly for me the last one they had was open box so i got an additional 15$ off the 200$ price tag. :)

[TheHans]

Hi,

There are 10 more available as of now. They're coded as out of stock, but will ship when available.

The Hans

[midget_man]

Does this model have commercial advance?

[kcjchan]

Does this model have commercial advance?

I've always wondered how that works.

[sandman804]

Heh. RSX club.

Can you EDIT the Commercials out...???

[microBe]

Does this model have commercial advance?

Most probably yes. On the ES10, the "CM Skip" button skips 1 minute ahead every time you press it. No rocket science at all, so don't expect it to magically skip over the commercials. Also this button only works on a disc that hasn't been finalized. I'm not sure if things have changed on the ES20 but I doubt...

[Aske001]

Ok this a bit off topic, but how do you setup to record from a digital receiver while being able to watch different channels?
Thanks.

Probably can't be done. Most digital satellite or cable receivers have only a single tuner, which means that you can only tune in one digital channel at a time. The analog TV tuners in your TV, VCR, or DVD recorder are not able to help.

Solutions:
1. Buy a premium digital receiver with two tuners (there are some, but mostly very expensive models combined with a built-in PVR)
2. Buy a 2nd digital receiver, maybe a cheap used one
(for either 1 or 2 you may need a separate digital connection registered with your cable or satellite company at extra monthly cost though)
3. Have analog cable hooked up too, allowing you to watch or record an analog channel in addition to the one digital channel