Need Advice - 2003 BMW 320i

[OpT22]

just wondering what any of you would pay for a 2003 BMWi 320i, the list price is $27k and it has 49000km.

what you would pay for this car on the road?

[chicadam]

Depends...

Is it on the Certified Series extended warranty?
What options does it have?

[acck]

The Price and Km can't tell at all.

like chicadam said it depences if it is certified as well as what options

Other issues to consider
1) Auto or Stick (auto is ususally more expensive)
2) Packages or base model (Premium packages will cost more)

from Autotrader.ca 320I price range can be from (GTA)
Low 24.8k Middle 27.9K High 30.9k

[OpT22]

sorry... its certified series, stick, no packages

[chicadam]

It really doesn't stop at $27K... you'll have to add 15% tax and Licensing costs.

But if it was me... the most I'll drop on this car is $24K which will probably end up being $28K after everything.

Its a nice car to drive and has good mileage but its a base model and the new e90s are on the road.

[Pete_Coach]

Check the black book, it is a Toyota Canada link but it is real usefull to start with:

http://www.toyota.ca/NWS/english/confighelp/appraise_tradein_vehicle.html

BMW Canada has a page where ou can search its' dealer network for exactly your type of BMW and you can get an idea what dealers are asking.

I own a BMW and personally, 27K is way too much for a 2003, very basic 3 series, with that much milage.

[OpT22]

thanks for the link Pete_Coach!

[chickenbones]

Seriously if you don't have the money for a "real" bimmer (330i) then don't buy one. For that money you can get an accord or something that's more bang for the buck, more reliable, more power.

Of course don't twist my word as me saying accord is better than a bimmer, I'm saying don't buy a low class bimmer, it's not that good. If you want a bimmer at least buy a 330i or something close. I'm not sure about the 2003 model year, I think 320i is pretty much the lowest class right? Just my 2 cents.

[Slimfast]

I guess you could call the 1 series the lowest class..

[Pete_Coach]

Seriously if you don't have the money for a "real" bimmer (330i) then don't buy one. For that money you can get an accord or something that's more bang for the buck, more reliable, more power.

Of course don't twist my word as me saying accord is better than a bimmer, I'm saying don't buy a low class bimmer, it's not that good. If you want a bimmer at least buy a 330i or something close. I'm not sure about the 2003 model year, I think 320i is pretty much the lowest class right? Just my 2 cents.
One of the reasons BMW is a great car is that it has technology and performance to offer in many price ranges. One of the reasons BMW is a great car and has a reputation of being kind of snotty is because of comments like those from chickenbones. A 330 is a nice car, as are almost all others in the BMW line-up, in price ranges for all folks, not just the ones that think they are better.
Just my 2 cents.

[chicadam]

Seriously if you don't have the money for a "real" bimmer (330i) then don't buy one. For that money you can get an accord or something that's more bang for the buck, more reliable, more power.

Of course don't twist my word as me saying accord is better than a bimmer, I'm saying don't buy a low class bimmer, it's not that good. If you want a bimmer at least buy a 330i or something close. I'm not sure about the 2003 model year, I think 320i is pretty much the lowest class right? Just my 2 cents.

Its odd many people think this way... :confused:
- The 320i has a 2.2L V6 engine, its has the power you are looking for, of course it depends what you are doing with it.
- Reliability does not change between a 330i and a 320i.
- If bang for your buck is what you are looking for than Hondas and Toyotas are for you...

[chickenbones]

Its odd many people think this way... :confused:
- The 320i has a 2.2L V6 engine, its has the power you are looking for, of course it depends what you are doing with it.
- Reliability does not change between a 330i and a 320i.
- If bang for your buck is what you are looking for than Hondas and Toyotas are for you...


It has a 2.2L V6? WOW! I didn't know they made 2.2L V6 engines. 320i is like the most basic bimmer, it does not have the luxury options that a 330i offers. I didn't say Hondas are better, I said it's a waste of money to buy a base bimmer, 'cus it's not even near "luxurious" The whole point of getting a bimmer and paying the extra money is for the luxury.

[mau108]

If you want to drive class, in that price range a one - two year old TSX will do. Its reliable, much more features and just as quick if not quicker then that 320i (it may not have the torque but top end power is there).

Seriously, older BMW 3 series is smaller then a fakin civic! I could fit in a civic, in the bmw 3 series (not sure which model I was sitting in) but my legs were cramped up soo badly, im 6'2 btw)

My vote goes for TSX.

http://www.trader.ca/powerpage/details.aspx?vlotid=79460&adid=5043148

http://images.trader.ca/autotrader/7/72/1478837.jpg.fpx?large

[Pete_Coach]

It has a 2.2L V6? WOW! I didn't know they made 2.2L V6 engines. 320i is like the most basic bimmer, it does not have the luxury options that a 330i offers. I didn't say Hondas are better, I said it's a waste of money to buy a base bimmer, 'cus it's not even near "luxurious" The whole point of getting a bimmer and paying the extra money is for the luxury.
You are right, BMW does not make a V6, never has. It is a straight 6. If you want to compare cars, go to http://www.nctd.com/index.cfm, go to the comparison page and compare vehicles. They go back as far as 1994 vehicles (not every car) and a fair spec comparison can be made.
For those of you hung up on horsepower, torque is what you want out of a car, horsepower keeps you at speed but torque gets you there.

[chicadam]

You are right, BMW does not make a V6, never has. It is a straight 6. If you want to compare cars, go to http://www.nctd.com/index.cfm, go to the comparison page and compare vehicles. They go back as far as 1994 vehicles (not every car) and a fair spec comparison can be made.
For those of you hung up on horsepower, torque is what you want out of a car, horsepower keeps you at speed but torque gets you there.

Thats right it is a inline 6. Not sure what the differences are between V6 and L6 other than then fact the L6 takes up more space.

The TSX is also a very good car, I second that suggestion, but IMO BMW e46 interior and exerior design is second to none.

[PrinceMS]

I use http://autos.msn.com for comparisons

(.ca sites sucks, don't even bother visiting)

[rockyandy]

old bmw 3 series ar too small. i think its for chicks ....if u ar a guy and cant afford 5,6,7 series. you should consider a 2 doors 3 series bwm.
325 ci.330ci.or even a 2000 323ci....

[PrinceMS]

old bmw 3 series ar too small. i think its for chicks ....if u ar a guy and cant afford 5,6,7 series. you should consider a 2 doors 3 series bwm.
325 ci.330ci.or even a 2000 323ci....

LOL ya my friends categorize cars for gurls and for guys as well. Never did understood that. Its a car, an object ... a tool on steriods. It not designed for a specific gender. Get what you feel comfortable with in terms of want, needs and budget (as long as you don't get a pink hehehe).

[chickenbones]

You are right, BMW does not make a V6, never has. It is a straight 6. If you want to compare cars, go to http://www.nctd.com/index.cfm, go to the comparison page and compare vehicles. They go back as far as 1994 vehicles (not every car) and a fair spec comparison can be made.
For those of you hung up on horsepower, torque is what you want out of a car, horsepower keeps you at speed but torque gets you there.

I think it has about 150 max in torque? Which is decent. But I never really was dissing the BMW brand, just that getting a used bimmer might not be that good of a decision. W/O warranty these things might be expensive to maintain.

[chicadam]

I think it has about 150 max in torque? Which is decent. But I never really was dissing the BMW brand, just that getting a used bimmer might not be that good of a decision. W/O warranty these things might be expensive to maintain.

I think OpT22 picked '03 for a reason. There is still 1 year left in the original warrranty. And if he got it from the dealership he has the CPO (Certified Pre-Owned) warranty.... '03 is a pretty reliable year for the 3 series.

Max torque of the 320i is actually 155 @ 3500 (lb.ft@rpm) which means it reaches max pull at a lower rpm than most cars. This is important b/c speed is all about gearing, and you want to pull longer at each gear. This is the case for all BMWs.

I wouldn't go to the 323i sure it has a bigger engine but:
- Warranty is all gone unless you do the CPO
- Engine is bigger but it weighs more so its probably the same speed in a 1/4 mile
- Second year of the new model so issues still to work out.