would u ask your friend to pay you bak if he lost ur laptop?

[UrbanPoet]

Say your friend borrows your $2500 laptop...
He gets mugged. The muggers stabbed him sending him to the hospital with a severe wound in his stomach.

wHen he Recovers... Would you ask your friend to pay you back for the laptop he erm.. sort of lost?

[Squiggles]

Wow. That's harsh

[FastFokker]

Note to self and others, do not lend that which is not insured and which can not be easily/affordably replaced.

[Siefer999]

if your freind loses something of yours while it is in his possesion, he should reimburse you whether he simply lost it or whether he got the snot beaten out of him and it taken from him unless he wants another beating and stabbing :lol:

[old_old_7]

I will pay without my friend ask me, since I borrow from him.
I expect my friend will do the same to me.

[aquariaguy]

unless he wants another beating and stabbing :lol:

LOL

[deal_lurker]

I wouldn't ask for anything back... I would just be glad it wasn't me getting mugged/robbed. :(

[DJ_Peanuts22]

if your freind loses something of yours while it is in his possesion, he should reimburse you whether he simply lost it or whether he got the snot beaten out of him and it taken from him unless he wants another beating and stabbing :lol:

DMX style?

[nsd]

If it was me that lost it, you wouldn't even have to ask for another one, you'd have a fresh new one waiting for you asap.

[blainehamilton]

You learned an important lesson here: never loan anything to anyone. :|

Seriously tho

Is it possible his homeowner's insurance would cover something like this? It's possible.

[purple_rabbit]

Is it because you idiots (to everyone in this thread) are kids and don't have money?

This shouldn't even be an issue, you should be glad that your friend is fu.ckin alive.

I guess I am on the wrong forum considering that this place is creeping with materialistic people who put their personal effects ahead of life.

Anyhow, your friend should feel morally responsible and repay you with whatever he can afford. BUT I WOULDN'T FORCE HIM. Are you really willing to finish your friendship over a fu.ckin laptop? Or maybe its just me who has money (and therefore makes it a non-issue) and cares more for my friends

[divx]

Is it because you idiots (to everyone in this thread) are kids and don't have money?

This shouldn't even be an issue, you should be glad that your friend is fu.ckin alive.

I guess I am on the wrong forum considering that this place is creeping with materialistic people who put their personal effects ahead of life.

Anyhow, your friend should feel morally responsible and repay you with whatever he can afford. BUT I WOULDN'T FORCE HIM. Are you really willing to finish your friendship over a fu.ckin laptop? Or maybe its just me who has money (and therefore makes it a non-issue) and cares more for my friends
depends how good he is your friend.

[Siefer999]

Is it because you idiots (to everyone in this thread) are kids and don't have money?

This shouldn't even be an issue, you should be glad that your friend is fu.ckin alive.

I guess I am on the wrong forum considering that this place is creeping with materialistic people who put their personal effects ahead of life.

Anyhow, your friend should feel morally responsible and repay you with whatever he can afford. BUT I WOULDN'T FORCE HIM. Are you really willing to finish your friendship over a fu.ckin laptop? Or maybe its just me who has money (and therefore makes it a non-issue) and cares more for my friends
i dont use the word "friend" as liberaly as most use it and i would automatically assume that if one of my "friends" did manage to lose something of mine while its in their possesion that I wouldnt have to ask for anything in return cause they would already have the money or replacement item for me waiting whether i want to accept it or not.

if i lost my friends 3k laptop, if i couldnt afford it, he would still get it replaced regardless.

before we start making judgements about ppl here we have to first define "friend."
Just because you call him a friend, doesnt mean he is one. how about all those pple on friendster (no offense to you friendster jockeys out there) that go around boasting about how they have 8562+ friends?

you talk about paying back what he can afford, what if you cant afford to purchase another laptop for school and you really need it? there are two people affected here remember. if the op left out the part about the stabbing /beating would you have changed your opinion?

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it could have been a set up, where the guy stabbed himself, blamed it on some latinos and sold it x amount of money. i've seen ppl do a lot more for a lot less...

[purple_rabbit]

i dont use the word "friend" as liberaly as most use it and i would automatically assume that if one of my "friends" did manage to lose something of mine while its in their possesion that I wouldnt have to ask for anything in return cause they would already have the money or replacement item for me waiting whether i want to accept it or not.

if i lost my friends 3k laptop, if i couldnt afford it, he would still get it replaced regardless.

before we start making judgements about ppl here we have to first define "friend."
Just because you call him a friend, doesnt mean he is one. how about all those pple on friendster (no offense to you friendster jockeys out there) that go around boasting about how they have 8562+ friends?

you talk about paying back what he can afford, what if you cant afford to purchase another laptop for school and you really need it? there are two people affected here remember. if the op left out the part about the stabbing /beating would you have changed your opinion?

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it could have been a set up, where the guy stabbed himself, blamed it on some latinos and sold it x amount of money. i've seen ppl do a lot more for a lot less...

Good points,

I agree, friendship is very subjective ranging from the really close highschool friend to the insignificant friendster *****.

Firstly, I wouldn't lend my laptop to someone who I solely knew on friendster. That being said, I am assuming that the OP lent this to a close friend because he wouldn't do so if it wasn't the case. In order for you to lend a $2500 laptop to a friend, you must trust him and you must have known him for a while.

I am basing my judgement on the facts given by the OP, having a friend stabbed and mugged are completely different than having a friend being careless and leaving the laptop in the subway. If the friend was careless, then YES I would tell him to give the money back.

Obviously the other friend didn't willingly give the laptop away, so it's not like he was careless. On the contrary, he probably got stabbed because he faught back on behalf of the laptop.

Yes, it could have been a setup, but then again, why would a friend (whom I am assuming you've known for a while) do something like that. If that was the case, then yes circumstances changes. Again, this is very unlikely, because of the fact that the Op wouldn't have lent a $2500 laptop to someone he knew overnight.

[nfnx]

id prob ask ffor half back.

[gamovafan]

I wouldn't because: 1) I'd be more concerned with my friends life than a laptop 2)a true friend will pay you back.

[65505201]

Assuming that it was a close friend and that he/she wasn't purposely exposing himself in a dangerous neighborhood, I will have to say no. I will not ask my friend for $$.

If he/she offers to pay me back, I will have to reassess our financial situations. If I'm much more well off than my friend, I would refuse. If we're about the same, I would go 50/50. If he's/she's much more well off, then I would accept 100%.

Considering that my friend got stabbed in the stomach for the laptop, I wouldn't treat this the same way as my friend dropping the laptop.

[aznboi180]

hmm.. this is a tough one.. if he got robbed for it, i dont think i'd ask him to pay for it cause his life is more important and especially if he was a long and good friend of mine.. but other wise if it was an not so close friend.. i think i might be tempted to ask for my money back .. lol

[d_jedi]

Tell me, what do you care more about? Money, or your friend?
Demanding compensation for the laptop is a good way for you to lose a friend over this.

[blackhawk]

tough choice in that situation but if he was your friend, you wouldn't have to bring it up

[sans]

friend or not a decent person would pay back what he owes without having to be asked.

lending the person a $2500 is almost the same as $2500 cash (taking into consideration depreciation value, etc.). let's suppose you lend your friend this cash, he gets stabbed and robbed, does this mean he doesn't have to pay you back?

a good, decent person will always pay back what he owes.

if i was stabbed and robbed, i would still pay back what i had borrowed. heck you should pay back because this person was nice enough to lend it to you...not paying back means you are trying to take advantage of his goodwill gesture towards you.

it's kind of like the friend is victimized by this robber and then goes out to victimize the lender of the laptop.

it's up the the lender as to whether the laptop should be repaid. it is up to the borrower to make financial restitution.

a person who lends stuff out and not getting it returned will eventually end up as poor as a homeless person...depending on how many friends you have and how often you lend stuff out. and who wants to be homeless. :D homeless with friends doesn't sound too good to me.

[CodecX81]

way back when, I lent my Playstation to my friend with Final Fantasy 7..

His older brother hung out with a pretty sketchy crowd and one day the house was robbed and they targetted the Playstation (naturally)

It was an awkward situation and I did not push anything, but he felt really crappy about it and when his mom found out, they purchased a new one for me.. the system was only about 4 mos old so its not like I got a 'deal' out of it.

He sorta got jealous that his mom got me the playstation and not him in the first place, the friendship broke off soon after. :p

But he fell into the same crowd as his older brother and now he's a deadbeat too.

The end.

[Princess Buttercup]

the laptop is unimportant, your friend is alive, and if he/she is your friend they would probably get you a new laptop anyway, if they don't then at least you still have your friend even if you don't have a laptop.

[klai]

If it were up to me...I'd take a passive approach..give him some time.
see if the friend volunteers to pay for the laptop. If he does then I'd think this guy is very responsible and you bet a good friend to keep around.

If the friend pretends nothing happens after a while, I'd ask him to pay it back or hint to him that you need a new laptop if you're shy about it...if he pays, great.

If he doesn't pay...what can I do, take him to court?? But it obviously shows what kind of person he is. Cheap, irresponsible, etc...
he's probably thinking "hey, I'm the victim, I got stabbed...so I'm king and I don't care if this guy trusted me with his laptop and now it's gone. Too bad for him. It's all about Me!" I just won't deal with scrubs like him...

[Driftwood]

He was stabbed! If he lost it due to his own carelessness that's one thing but come on... I would be really offended if someone were to ask for the money back. If he died would you ask his family to reimburse you? Just be glad he's still alive and don't lend out valuable items anymore. :)

[dmatthew]

A close friend will reimburse you one way or another. That's what a good friend would naturally do.

No need to even question or ask for it - he/she will do the right thing (BE A MAN)

lol

[Spiderpal93]

My Answer: No

But if your friend is a good friend, he should have offer to pay you back after he recovers.

[sans]

He was stabbed! If he lost it due to his own carelessness that's one thing but come on... I would be really offended if someone were to ask for the money back. If he died would you ask his family to reimburse you? Just be glad he's still alive and don't lend out valuable items anymore. :)


if he dies it would be heartless to ask his family to reimburse you. after all, they didn't borrow it from you. but if he has money after he dies, then his family ought to do the right thing and offer to pay you back without you even asking for it. that is, if they know for certain he had borrowed your laptop. it is up to you to decline the payment though.

of course one would be glad the victim lives through the ordeal...but would you still want to be friend with such a person? let's say he is able to pay you but won't or figured that a good friend would never ask for payment thereby taking advantage of the friendship.

the lesson of "don't lend out valuable items anymore." (you're joking?) would only work against you in the future. a friend would help out another friend who is in need of help.

what use is it to have friends who won't help you when you need it. better off with no friends.

again i say a good, decent person will pay back what he owes.

[keanefan]

so-called "friend" might be lying about being stabbed and robbed just to keep the laptop.

no joke.

:mad: :| :( >:( :confused:

[AmberMoon]

Unless I am way off, but I would think most people who have a little bit of decency would want to replace your item they lost regardless of the reason it was lost/broke.

Those who could care less on replacing someone else’s items when they broke/lost it I do believe as just being white trash and well lets just say you need better friends

[keanefan]

some people don't have $2500 to give back.

50% chance when you lend stuff to people- YOU DON'T GET IT BACK.

so don't lend VALUABLE STUFF to people.

don't leave your kids with a babysitter

[TheOneBarton]

lol, friend, you better pay it up, otherwise I'LL HAVE TO DO SOMETHING TO YOU THAT YOU WON'T LIKE.

[Amuthini]

don't lend anything that you're not willing to lose.

[klai]

lol, friend, you better pay it up, otherwise I'LL HAVE TO DO SOMETHING TO YOU THAT YOU WON'T LIKE.
are u gonna feed me your mom's dinner?
F*** you, I ain't giving you nothing, what u gonna do, you want to tell that to my knife, sucker?

[UrbanPoet]

so-called "friend" might be lying about being stabbed and robbed just to keep the laptop.

no joke.

:mad: :| :( >:( :confused:

most d!ck headed answer yet!

[Toronto]

depends how good he is your friend.


You don't exactly lend a $2500 laptop to someone you don't care too much for.

Is it because you idiots (to everyone in this thread) are kids and don't have money?

This shouldn't even be an issue, you should be glad that your friend is fu.ckin alive.

I guess I am on the wrong forum considering that this place is creeping with materialistic people who put their personal effects ahead of life.

Anyhow, your friend should feel morally responsible and repay you with whatever he can afford. BUT I WOULDN'T FORCE HIM. Are you really willing to finish your friendship over a fu.ckin laptop? Or maybe its just me who has money (and therefore makes it a non-issue) and cares more for my friends

I gotta say, I was thinking the same thing as this guy (but with a bit less cursing). I don't know what kind of friends you other people have, but I won't lend something worth $2500 unless it's a good friend. On top of this, you people will really ask for the money back after your friend was stabbed and had it stolen from him/her? Is this the kind of friendship you have with others? Is this the kind of friendship you give to others? If so then you have much more to worry about then a stupid laptop.

[john widow]

If he doesn't pay up, just stab him again. Hey he doesn't want to go through the same thing eh? Teach him a lesson.

Either that, you 2 unite and find out who these dudes are and kill him.

[asim99]

it'll depend on his financial situation compared to mine

[awesome-o]

could be an expensive lesson.
only lend "true" friends highly valuable things, and even then be careful.

[x86asm]

Excuse my ignorance UrbanP, but I still don't know if this is hypothetical?

Did this actually happen?

[dark169]

the only people I'd lend something like that out to are the people whose friendships I value more then the item itself. Money and stuff are not whats important in life.

Now if after he got better and he went out and bought a new laptop for himself, he'd find himself in the hospital again. I'd hope my firends would at least step up and offer to at least help replace the thing.

but know I wouldn't ASK, but I would at least expect teh conversation to be brought up by him at a later date. Sitting in the hopspital is not the place to worry about the little things liek a laptop,

[Hellfire]

Wouldn't either yours or his insurance cover something like this?

[RenegadeX]

If own something that is worth $2500, you either:
1) take full responsibility for it and anything that happens to it while in your possession - and don't lend it out.
2) make sure its covered under home ownership insurance
3) let **** happen, and suffer the consequences when it does.

Therefore, you must take some responsibility for the loss - as you lent out your laptop. If you do not have insurance, then the loss is on you..

Having said that, your friend no doubt feels terrible guilt, despite his pain and what appears to have been an effort to defend himself/the laptop from being robbed..

If you have insurance and the computer is covered then the right thing to do is tell your friend not to worry about it, that's what insurance is for. (Not really right to get reimbursed for insurance premium against the claim - see comment about you making the decision to lend it out.

If you do not have insurance, and the friend is informed of this - his feeling might be "well, that's not MY fault! I tried to do everything I could to stop getting robbed!". Hopefully, if the friend is a decent person, they will nonetheless feel the guilt of losing another individual's possession, and attempt to reimburse you fully.

Depending on how well you know this person, and depending on both of your financial situations, whether you accept a full repayment or a partial repayment is up to you. If the friend does not even offer to reimburse you, then consider this a lesson learnt:
- the friend is not a good a friend as you thought..
- don't lend out stuff you can't afford to replace
- or make sure you have insurance before you loan stuff out.

[john widow]

If he's your friend. He will feel guilty and either commit suicide or fight and survive and find a job and pay you back quickly.

[UrbanPoet]

If it happened to me... Id just ask him to pay me back whenever he has the money... Id straight up tell him that i dont care if it takes 3 months or 3 years. As long as he makes an effort at paying me back a reasonable value of the laptop i would be happy.

[PrimoTurbo]

I wouldn’t lend a laptop to anyone to be honest. But if it happened and it was a really close friend and he was seriously injured then I would let it go, or maybe cover half of it.

[sxz]

Some people here are going to the two extremes of this situation. What you should do is make sure your friend makes a full recovery first of all before asking him/her anything about the laptop. If the laptop topic does come up just tell him/her that they shouldn't worry about it. As said previously if you just mention the laptop slightly without pushing the envelope too far then your friend will likely help you get another one. If not then you shouldn't lend out anything valuable to said friend anymore since it's not very likely he/she will pay you back if they do lose it.

[synaptech]

Don't lend something unless you're willing to never see it again. If your insurance does not cover it then it's a loss I'd take. Consider it a bonus if your friend replaces it.

[kingfencer]

if he's still eating and breathing then he better pay me back, in fact, it better be enough to get a newer model. Now if he would of died... it would be pretty damm hard to get money from their family. Extorting death is pretty scumbag low.

[sxz]

if he's still eating and breathing then he better pay me back, in fact, it better be enough to get a newer model. Now if he would of died... it would be pretty damm hard to get money from their family. Extorting death is pretty scumbag low.
And milking your injured friend for every penny he/she's got isn't? Chances are if the friend asked to borrow the laptop in the first place he/she cannot afford one of their own. :rolleyes:

[ttt]

Say your friend borrows your $2500 laptop...
He gets mugged. The muggers stabbed him sending him to the hospital with a severe wound in his stomach.

wHen he Recovers... Would you ask your friend to pay you back for the laptop he erm.. sort of lost?

yes..