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Staples_Insider
Feb 8th, 2006, 03:19 AM
YMMV but here's a memo sent out by Staples H.O. talking about some deals on older video cards coming up. You may want to go to your local shop NOW and buy them...(you know the rest of the process)...even better if you have a friend on the inside (like me!!!).

In an effort to clear through on some of the older model skus, BFG has offered extremely aggressive rebates from Feb 15 – Mar 15.

The following rebates will be active beginning Feb 15:

585212 – BFG FX5700 256MB AGP
REG PRICE: $149.97
EASY MIR: $70
PRICE DROP: $30
NET PRICE: $49.97

584776 – BFG FX5500 128MB AGP
REG PRICE: $119.95
EASY MIR: $50
PRICE DROP: $20
NET PRICE: $49.95

584775 – BFG FX5200 256MB PCI
REG PRICE: $99.97
EASY MIR: $50
PRICE DROP: $20
NET PRICE: $29.97

These promos should help us clear through most of this inventory and make room for some new exciting technology in the coming months.

Remember, you can also use the 50% off on Staff Shopping day for associates. This makes each card free, or less than free after rebates![I]

terranaj98
Feb 8th, 2006, 03:27 AM
it smells like im getting a new 256 card THANKS :D

terranaj98
Feb 8th, 2006, 03:29 AM
how about this card?
http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Catalog/cat_sku.asp?CatIds=89%2C93%2C3840,316&webid=596280&affixedcode=WW

tjuzer
Feb 8th, 2006, 03:54 AM
5500 128MB or 5200 256MB which is beter :?:

Badger
Feb 8th, 2006, 04:21 AM
5500 128MB or 5200 256MB which is beter :?:

Both are crap, but I'll take the 5500. =P

Staples_Insider
Feb 8th, 2006, 04:27 AM
Well, none of these are for intensive gaming but they're definitely better than any onboard stuff. If you have a friend on the inside, they're almost paying you to take it off their hands...seems like a good deal to me. Buy them now before the stock is pulled. I will be getting mine later today. I'll look up on the AS400 to see which stores have them and have them transferred in. :twisted:

Badger
Feb 8th, 2006, 04:37 AM
I'm interested in 5700, but the rebate is huge, and I pay the tax before the rebate. The card comes to about $66 after rebate and tax.

Staples_Insider
Feb 8th, 2006, 04:41 AM
I'm interested in 5700, but the rebate is huge, and I pay the tax before the rebate. The card comes to about $66 after rebate and tax.

Best to pick one up now to make sure you have one in hand. :cheesygri

FusionSenses
Feb 8th, 2006, 05:17 AM
Omg, I was excited when I see the title, because I can finally pick up a cheap card to replace my half broken old 9600XT to play better in Battlefield 2.

I go to toms and 5700 out, it has 1/3 of my 9600xt scores in 3Dmark05.

lol, I thought I was using a piece of junk.

jla0
Feb 8th, 2006, 07:19 AM
Omg, I was excited when I see the title, because I can finally pick up a cheap card to replace my half broken old 9600XT to play better in Battlefield 2.

I go to toms and 5700 out, it has 1/3 of my 9600xt scores in 3Dmark05.

lol, I thought I was using a piece of junk.

What you need to understand is... the entire FX line was a piece of junk! Nvidia is happy to have moved AWAY from those!

bellboy26
Feb 8th, 2006, 08:37 AM
Will any of these work in AGP 2x?

doublejack
Feb 8th, 2006, 08:47 AM
I go to toms and 5700 out, it has 1/3 of my 9600xt scores in 3Dmark05.

lol, I thought I was using a piece of junk.

Where can I pick up a 9600xt for $50?

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Thank you OP I scooped the only one on the floor (didn't ask) in Pickering. I'm hoping to see an improvement from my mx420 (not 4200, 420!) LoL!

Heads up people: The box was in the clearance section and says GeForce FX 5700 LE overclocked. The barcode is not on the box, actually on the card and they'll have to type it in because it won't scan through the plastic. $150 for now.

Thanks for sharing. Good luck everybody.

sfu_engineer
Feb 8th, 2006, 08:53 AM
Some of the integrated video cards are better than this. :(

coolman217
Feb 8th, 2006, 09:09 AM
when is staff shopping day???

JWL
Feb 8th, 2006, 09:13 AM
YMMV but here's a memo sent out by Staples H.O. talking about some deals on older video cards coming up. You may want to go to your local shop NOW and buy them...(you know the rest of the process)...even better if you have a friend on the inside (like me!!!).



Sorry, but I don't know the rest of the process. Is it "Return and Re-buy" within 30 days of the original purchase and during between rebate period? Or will they just PM it and effectively give you the MIR as an immediate refund?

Thanks for helping out a newb.

crxmugen
Feb 8th, 2006, 09:16 AM
don't need it right now, but hey, staple staff rulz!!!

cheap4tw
Feb 8th, 2006, 09:18 AM
Can anyone tell me if these cards would out perform a Geforce 4 TI4800 128?

Strikerjs
Feb 8th, 2006, 09:18 AM
I don't understand what the big hype is. Why would people want to spend their hard earned money for these junky cards? It isn't like they will allow you to play Oblivion or any of the new games coming out. Save your pennies and buy a 6600 GT instead.

The best of these cards, the 5700, is only about the same speed as a GF4 Ti. The 5200, on the other hand, is probably about the same speed as my old beastly GF 3 Ti 200. Not worth upgrading for me.

hardcoredummy
Feb 8th, 2006, 09:28 AM
I don't understand what the big hype is. Why would people want to spend their hard earned money for these junky cards? It isn't like they will allow you to play Oblivion or any of the new games coming out. Save your pennies and buy a 6600 GT instead.


Because not everybody needs a videocard to play Oblivion... or any games.

yuprules
Feb 8th, 2006, 09:41 AM
Because not everybody needs a videocard to play Oblivion... or any games.

Exactly, I agree. Like people who bought the Dell $299 deals and need a better video card "in general". That PCI one at Staples for $29 will be an amazing upgrade..infact the BEST and LAST upgrade you could do for the "now dead PCI graphics card market".

hardcoredummy
Feb 8th, 2006, 09:50 AM
The PCI one is also good for testing systems... or for multiple monitors... or for an HTPC. I would pick one up if it didn't involve a MIR.

cipher
Feb 8th, 2006, 09:54 AM
Can anyone tell me if these cards would out perform a Geforce 4 TI4800 128?

You're kidding us right? These cards couldn't outperform a snail. These cards are for people who just need a system for surfing and basic tasks.

Wrocky
Feb 8th, 2006, 09:59 AM
For all those looking for comparisons between Video cards, you can view charts at: http://www.tomshardware.com/site/vgacharts/index.html

cheap4tw
Feb 8th, 2006, 10:07 AM
Right now my brother is using my old ti card but you can't play BF2 with anything less then an FX for some stupid reason.

That is why I asked.

yuprules
Feb 8th, 2006, 10:10 AM
Right now my brother is using my old ti card but you can't play BF2 with anything less then an FX for some stupid reason.

That is why I asked.

Same goes for Stubbs the Zombie :)

psychoPat
Feb 8th, 2006, 10:14 AM
What you need to understand is... the entire FX line was a piece of junk! Nvidia is happy to have moved AWAY from those!

What a piece of $%?! statement... I'm still running an FX5900U & it plays ALL the latest games out there... it even beats the crap out of a 6600gt in most of them... except for when it comes to SM 3.0... don't go bashing when not knowing... :mad:

msandra
Feb 8th, 2006, 11:19 AM
What a piece of $%?! statement... I'm still running an FX5900U & it plays ALL the latest games out there... it even beats the crap out of a 6600gt in most of them... except for when it comes to SM 3.0... don't go bashing when not knowing... :mad:


since when has 5900u outperformed 6600gt? try running anything at 1280x1024 up before talking. not to mention with AA on. :lol:

shuffle
Feb 8th, 2006, 11:36 AM
As for the HTPC statement, I would think to be somewhat future proof you would want a DVI based card for that purpose...

cy
Feb 8th, 2006, 11:54 AM
when is staff shopping day???


Feb 19.

They tried to do "Friends + Family" before, but now it's only limited to employees only and to that ONLY store that they work in.

Easy rebates are pretty good, i've gotten 4/4 so far within 6 weeks.


Employees gets another 50% off the price before rebate, that's what makes it a hot deal. Free card, good to throw in any random machine, servers, HTPC ;)

I think i'll grab a few, incase i need to build some basic comps.

cy
Feb 8th, 2006, 11:57 AM
Sorry, but I don't know the rest of the process. Is it "Return and Re-buy" within 30 days of the original purchase and during between rebate period? Or will they just PM it and effectively give you the MIR as an immediate refund?

Thanks for helping out a newb.


the rest of the process only applies to employees, and only apply to certain stores.


As supposed there's 30 days price guarentee. If you buy it today at full price, wait til employee shopping day, do the 50% off adjustment. That way you can have your new toy earlier, and most important, it won't be OOS ;)

On the policy, it saids you can only purchase it on the employee shopping day, and shouldn't be any price guarentee, that's why i said it's kinda optional, depending on the store managers.

Good luck hunting, all stores should be very good on inventory on these ;)


In conclusion, you guys shouldn't be grabbing these if you are not an employee, or if you dont' have a friend working at staples, since it's the 50% that makes the difference

hardcoredummy
Feb 8th, 2006, 11:57 AM
As for the HTPC statement, I would think to be somewhat future proof you would want a DVI based card for that purpose...

Why? Because you think the DVI on a videocard is the same DVI used in an HDTV set? :rolleyes:

JB7
Feb 8th, 2006, 12:10 PM
Cool, I'll check this out. :)

Staples_Insider
Feb 8th, 2006, 12:36 PM
Feb 19.

They tried to do "Friends + Family" before, but now it's only limited to employees only and to that ONLY store that they work in.

Easy rebates are pretty good, i've gotten 4/4 so far within 6 weeks.


Employees gets another 50% off the price before rebate, that's what makes it a hot deal. Free card, good to throw in any random machine, servers, HTPC ;)

I think i'll grab a few, incase i need to build some basic comps.

There is no policy in place regarding the purchase of products on staff shopping day to an employee's home store. As long as they identify themselves as an employee, the MOD will more than likely to process the sale. If the purchase is unusual then they may call to verify but I've never seen this happen in the 6 years I've been with the company. If you don't believe me call ahead to the store you want to purchase and speak to the MOD and ask them if it would be okay to buy stuff from their store instead of yours. You can even call ahead to a remote location and tell them that your "sister" will be shopping on your behalf that day.

As for the individuals discussing the "playability" of the cards that's why I listed "(older)" in the title so you high rollers can keep rolling along in the forums to one that says "brand new, state of the art, plays every game out there, mortgage my house video card deal!".

realize
Feb 8th, 2006, 12:42 PM
There is no policy in place regarding the purchase of products on staff shopping day to an employee's home store. As long as they identify themselves as an employee, the MOD will more than likely to process the sale. If the purchase is unusual then they may call to verify but I've never seen this happen in the 6 years I've been with the company. If you don't believe me call ahead to the store you want to purchase and speak to the MOD and ask them if it would be okay to buy stuff from their store instead of yours. You can even call ahead to a remote location and tell them that your "sister" will be shopping on your behalf that day.

As for the individuals discussing the "playability" of the cards that's why I listed "(older)" in the title so you high rollers can keep rolling along in the forums to one that says "brand new, state of the art, plays every game out there, mortgage my house video card deal!".

LOL
toooo funny

cy
Feb 8th, 2006, 12:56 PM
There is no policy in place regarding the purchase of products on staff shopping day to an employee's home store. As long as they identify themselves as an employee, the MOD will more than likely to process the sale. If the purchase is unusual then they may call to verify but I've never seen this happen in the 6 years I've been with the company. If you don't believe me call ahead to the store you want to purchase and speak to the MOD and ask them if it would be okay to buy stuff from their store instead of yours. You can even call ahead to a remote location and tell them that your "sister" will be shopping on your behalf that day.

As for the individuals discussing the "playability" of the cards that's why I listed "(older)" in the title so you high rollers can keep rolling along in the forums to one that says "brand new, state of the art, plays every game out there, mortgage my house video card deal!".


challenge me? make a bet? I will pull out the policy tomorrow for you.

Puchase has to be made in home store, most of the time the managers will be ok for purchase form a different store with proof. On employee shopping day, NO TRANSFERS are allowed, accoridng to policy. Managers can bend the rule, but i am talking about the policy. For all headoffice associates, mobile technician, they can make purchases at any location with the proof of employment, usually a paystub.


6 years? I hope you worked in staples canada not staples in africa. Learn english and read the policy over again.

6 years? what position? which location? let's see your achivement. Move on in your life.

doublejack
Feb 8th, 2006, 01:03 PM
challenge me? make a bet? I will pull out the policy tomorrow for you.

Puchase has to be made in home store, most of the time the managers will be ok for purchase form a different store with proof. On employee shopping day, NO TRANSFERS are allowed, accoridng to policy. Managers can bend the rule, but i am talking about the policy. For all headoffice associates, mobile technician, they can make purchases at any location with the proof of employment, usually a paystub.


6 years? I hope you worked in staples canada not staples in africa. Learn english and read the policy over again.

6 years? what position? which location? let's see your achivement. Move on in your life.

Wow - you sure got him. Do you feel better now?

And is something wrong with Staples Africa?

Staples_Insider
Feb 8th, 2006, 01:11 PM
challenge me? make a bet? I will pull out the policy tomorrow for you.

Puchase has to be made in home store, most of the time the managers will be ok for purchase form a different store with proof. On employee shopping day, NO TRANSFERS are allowed, accoridng to policy. Managers can bend the rule, but i am talking about the policy. For all headoffice associates, mobile technician, they can make purchases at any location with the proof of employment, usually a paystub.


6 years? I hope you worked in staples canada not staples in africa. Learn english and read the policy over again.

6 years? what position? which location? let's see your achivement. Move on in your life.

easy dude, how did this get to a bashing when the original post was to offer a deal for our fellow RFD'ers? For those RFD'ers who would like to test out this practice then go ahead and call your local store and ASK them. Most associates are more than happy to help you out.
As for my position, I'm at the General Manager level...where are you?

coolman217
Feb 8th, 2006, 01:13 PM
Wow - you sure got him. Do you feel better now?

And is something wrong with Staples Africa?


come on now.... i'd like to see what's pulled out :cheesygri

i think he meant to say Staples Antartica, where there's only 1 quantity of everything and it's on display only, otherwise OOS.

JackyTheBeaver
Feb 8th, 2006, 01:16 PM
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6 years? I hope you worked in staples canada not staples in africa. Learn english and read the policy over again.

6 years? what position? which location? let's see your achivement. Move on in your life.


That's uncalled for and downright inappropriate. Rather than calling for someone else to "move on in [his/her] life", think about how these statement make you look in the eyes of others. You think these make you sound like a mature adult?

I hope the victim of your remark don't reply back and sink down to the same level as you.

Staples_Associate
Feb 8th, 2006, 01:16 PM
challenge me? make a bet? I will pull out the policy tomorrow for you.

Puchase has to be made in home store, most of the time the managers will be ok for purchase form a different store with proof. On employee shopping day, NO TRANSFERS are allowed, accoridng to policy. Managers can bend the rule, but i am talking about the policy. For all headoffice associates, mobile technician, they can make purchases at any location with the proof of employment, usually a paystub.


6 years? I hope you worked in staples canada not staples in africa. Learn english and read the policy over again.

6 years? what position? which location? let's see your achivement. Move on in your life.

As far as shop day rules go... no transfers are allowed. This simply means the transfer of stock into a store for the purpose of associate shopping is not allowed to happen. There are exceptions to the rule, however :) ... such that both stores can agree to "transfer product in" by agreement of both GMs. The reason why they made this a rule is because of the shipping costs associated with the transfer of merchandise, and the paperwork required to complete the transfer properly. They do not see it worthwhile...

You are more then able to go to another store, you just have to call the GM and get the go ahead to do it. Dont show up on shop day and expect to get it, its better to call ahead to make sure its cool.

And for the record, 6 years is an accomplishment. Kudos to you for staying in a job for so long, most people cant do that even if they tried.

ijcl
Feb 8th, 2006, 01:17 PM
challenge me? make a bet? I will pull out the policy tomorrow for you.

6 years? I hope you worked in staples canada not staples in africa. Learn english and read the policy over again.

6 years? what position? which location? let's see your achivement. Move on in your life.

Two things about your post that made me want to reply:

1) If you are correct, come and prove it. State the facts and the incorrect poster can stand corrected (just let them do it in their own accord). There is no need to get personal and insulting, like you just did. So what if their command of the English language is not as strong as yours. Maybe the poster speaks more than one, or five, language(s). Does that make them less of a person to talk to them like that?

2) Just because a person has not moved the corporate ladder, it does not mean they have not achieved anything. Maybe for you this is a way to measure a person up. For others, there are more important things in life to use as a measuring stick. (do you want me to name a few?)

Why the hostiliy? If you are not happy because someone posted incorrect information, that's fine. Just don't be hostile and correct them. Tell them that you have actually read the policy and that, in fact, it states this and that without getting personal.

It's not a challenge. It's not a bet. It's not about your ego.
It's a public forum where people post correct and incorrect information all the time.

Staples_Associate
Feb 8th, 2006, 01:18 PM
That's uncalled for and downright inappropriate. Rather than calling for someone else to "move on in [his/her] life", think about how these statement make you look in the eyes of others. You think these make you sound like a mature adult?

I hope the victim of your remark don't reply back and sink down to the same level as you.

Assuming he/she is an adult :lol:

Staples_Insider
Feb 8th, 2006, 01:24 PM
As far as shop day rules go... no transfers are allowed. This simply means the transfer of stock into a store for the purpose of associate shopping is not allowed to happen. There are exceptions to the rule, however :) ... such that both stores can agree to "transfer product in" by agreement of both GMs. The reason why they made this a rule is because of the shipping costs associated with the transfer of merchandise, and the paperwork required to complete the transfer properly. They do not see it worthwhile...

You are more then able to go to another store, you just have to call the GM and get the go ahead to do it. Dont show up on shop day and expect to get it, its better to call ahead to make sure its cool.

And for the record, 6 years is an accomplishment. Kudos to you for staying in a job for so long, most people cant do that even if they tried.

Thanks fellow Staples dude. Yeah, transfers are generally not allowed only because the products are often below cost so the original FULL cost is charged to the store the product was first put into inventory at so the true cost to the receiving store can be much more than just the delivery cost. Paperwork wise, it's really only a 2 minute process from both stores. And as you restated from my earlier post, just call ahead to get the okay instead of just showing up.

BTW, 6 years is not too bad (the pay is actually pretty good for a retail job - even better is you are enrolled in the stock option program as GM's get an additional 1000 options on top of the regular offerings each year...I also get to go to the Global conference this year...Vegas, baby!).

jla0
Feb 8th, 2006, 01:30 PM
What a piece of $%?! statement... I'm still running an FX5900U & it plays ALL the latest games out there... it even beats the crap out of a 6600gt in most of them... except for when it comes to SM 3.0... don't go bashing when not knowing... :mad:

Oh man.. I don't even want to think at how much you paid for that POS! Those cards suck big time. Please don't compare the great 6600GT to your old junk card.

I feel sorry for you loss man...

Staples_Associate
Feb 8th, 2006, 01:32 PM
Thanks fellow Staples dude. Yeah, transfers are generally not allowed only because the products are often below cost so the original FULL cost is charged to the store the product was first put into inventory at so the true cost to the receiving store can be much more than just the delivery cost. Paperwork wise, it's really only a 2 minute process from both stores. And as you restated from my earlier post, just call ahead to get the okay instead of just showing up.

BTW, 6 years is not too bad (the pay is actually pretty good for a retail job - even better is you are enrolled in the stock option program as GM's get an additional 1000 options on top of the regular offerings each year...I also get to go to the Global conference this year...Vegas, baby!).


Ahhh so you are a GM then eh? Well... that makes it all the better then :) . Glad to see you on RFD!

fl4wless
Feb 8th, 2006, 01:39 PM
Where can I pick up a 9600xt for $50?

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Thank you OP I scooped the only one on the floor (didn't ask) in Pickering. I'm hoping to see an improvement from my mx420 (not 4200, 420!) LoL!

Heads up people: The box was in the clearance section and says GeForce FX 5700 LE overclocked. The barcode is not on the box, actually on the card and they'll have to type it in because it won't scan through the plastic. $150 for now.

Thanks for sharing. Good luck everybody.

u can get it easily for 60-70 in the BST, and its far better than any of those cards above. If i were you, look for a cheap 9500pro or 9700pro, would be even better and around the same price.

Siefer999
Feb 8th, 2006, 01:44 PM
the fx5200 pci is a good price for those 299 dell buyers that need a little extra

Haz
Feb 8th, 2006, 01:48 PM
Why? Because you think the DVI on a videocard is the same DVI used in an HDTV set? :rolleyes:
I've done it on with an old Radeon VE on a Sony TV with a DVI input. :)

cy
Feb 8th, 2006, 02:06 PM
Thanks fellow Staples dude. Yeah, transfers are generally not allowed only because the products are often below cost so the original FULL cost is charged to the store the product was first put into inventory at so the true cost to the receiving store can be much more than just the delivery cost. Paperwork wise, it's really only a 2 minute process from both stores. And as you restated from my earlier post, just call ahead to get the okay instead of just showing up.

BTW, 6 years is not too bad (the pay is actually pretty good for a retail job - even better is you are enrolled in the stock option program as GM's get an additional 1000 options on top of the regular offerings each year...I also get to go to the Global conference this year...Vegas, baby!).


If you think staples pay is pretty good, head over to FS and BB. Being on salary now at staples, for the amount of work, it's not worth it. GM only get pays decent if it's a A volume store, B/C are only so so, definitely not worth the time.

Staying at a job for 6 years is nothing special. However if you switch jobs every few years, then you have a problem.

I was offended by the fact that he said "..if you dont' believe me.." That's a challenge.

May i ask which store you are from ( I assume you are GM since you are going on conference next week?) ? I would like to visit you or give you a call for a chat.

cheers,
cy

Siefer999
Feb 8th, 2006, 02:17 PM
I would like to visit you or give you a call for a chat.

cheers,
cy
to discuss you $10 samsung printer that you didnt get? I'm in too, tell me when and where!

cy
Feb 8th, 2006, 02:26 PM
Sorry, never done a PM in my life.

employees not allowed. only 100%

Desolatax
Feb 8th, 2006, 02:43 PM
Nice Price if you need a new graphic card for minimal gaming, 5200 is horrible, even for the price, spend the extra and get the 5700, its not much more, but if you ever runn anything 3D, the 5700 will own the 5200

shuffle
Feb 8th, 2006, 02:47 PM
Why? Because you think the DVI on a videocard is the same DVI used in an HDTV set? :rolleyes:

Um, yes. Is this a trick question?

shuffle
Feb 8th, 2006, 02:50 PM
I've done it on with an old Radeon VE on a Sony TV with a DVI input. :)

Of course you have, its pin for pin compatible. OP must be getting at something else.

cy
Feb 8th, 2006, 02:54 PM
Nice Price if you need a new graphic card for minimal gaming, 5200 is horrible, even for the price, spend the extra and get the 5700, its not much more, but if you ever runn anything 3D, the 5700 will own the 5200

i have a 5200 now, it's horrible, haha. Good thing about my 5200 is dual vga ;)

Strikerjs
Feb 8th, 2006, 03:03 PM
What a piece of $%?! statement... I'm still running an FX5900U & it plays ALL the latest games out there... it even beats the crap out of a 6600gt in most of them... except for when it comes to SM 3.0... don't go bashing when not knowing... :mad:


I am calling bull***** on this one. A 6600GT will easily blow any FX card out of the water.

mech9t5
Feb 8th, 2006, 03:05 PM
is there a staples employee here willing to pick up a card for me with their 50% discount? thanks

i am interested in the
584775 – BFG FX5200 256MB PCI
REG PRICE: $99.97
EASY MIR: $50
PRICE DROP: $20
NET PRICE: $29.97

i don't care if people say it is crap. i have an old computer that is currently using a 4mb on board card. I can say for sure, this card will be a huge improvement.

Haz
Feb 8th, 2006, 03:10 PM
Of course you have, its pin for pin compatible. OP must be getting at something else.Only problem is that some TVs need drivers to function properly. The other alternative for those would be using Powerstrip to "make" it work.

FusionSenses
Feb 8th, 2006, 04:55 PM
Nice Price if you need a new graphic card for minimal gaming, 5200 is horrible, even for the price, spend the extra and get the 5700, its not much more, but if you ever runn anything 3D, the 5700 will own the 5200


I wouldn't think 5700 is any better than those new intergrated video cards. If you want to play any 3D games at all (not even talking about the new ones), then you should get ATI 9000 series or Nvidia 6000 series. And I am serious. You can't even play Warcraft 3 properly with with 5700, which is like 3 years old game. Even the 299 dell is fast enough to play in terms of CPU and stuff.

I almost want to throw my 9600xt away already, if i can buy a 1 year old video card to replace it. Have been thinking about some cheap 850xt or 800 or 6600gt. 9600 nowadays isn't worth much, you can probaly find it at 70.

kness_30
Feb 8th, 2006, 05:01 PM
Everysingle one of those cards are complete pooo.

Siefer999
Feb 8th, 2006, 05:02 PM
Everysingle one of those cards are complete pooo.
but will go will with some pooo systems that a lot of ppl have since its not worth pimping up a pooo system with a 6800...

duster
Feb 8th, 2006, 06:38 PM
EDIT: I'm stupid...

sxz
Feb 8th, 2006, 06:43 PM
Why would we buy them now? Wouldn't the rebates NOT apply to purchases made before the rebate period?

express.items
Feb 8th, 2006, 06:47 PM
Why would we buy them now? Wouldn't the rebates NOT apply to purchases made before the rebate period?

I'd assume so... what's an "easy MIR"? the Staples EasyRebate thing?

mahjongmaniac
Feb 8th, 2006, 08:34 PM
Everysingle one of those cards are complete pooo.

agreed :lol:


but if u need it for normal usage and not heavy gaming, it's not a bad "upgrade" to replace the onboard video cards.



anyway, i think this will only be a "hot deal" and worth considering if u can get it for 50% off stooples employee shopping price.
(the big $MIR$ don't make it any more attractive.)

otherwise, i'd spend a lil more to get a better vid. card.

mahjongmaniac
Feb 8th, 2006, 08:39 PM
I'd assume so... what's an "easy MIR"? the Staples EasyRebate thing?

check out info here: http://staples.onlinerebates.ca/

Coolme
Feb 8th, 2006, 08:54 PM
hmm.. I couldn't find the link for the PCI FX 5200 card. I tried to enter the item number in the URL, but it just returns to the font page. I just want to see if it supports DirectX 9c.

joeschmo
Feb 8th, 2006, 09:00 PM
If they have this promo going on, they prolly wont put 50% off on all disco video cards on this upcoming staff shopping day list.

jory29
Feb 8th, 2006, 09:26 PM
Hey, can anyone let me know if there are any for sale @ Staples that are better than the NVIDIA GeForce 4 Ti4200? I don't know enough about specs/features for gaming cards to be a good judge, and I trust you guys. :)

divx
Feb 8th, 2006, 09:36 PM
fx5200 price is quite hot, it has dx 9.

doublejack
Feb 9th, 2006, 01:33 AM
u can get it easily for 60-70 in the BST, and its far better than any of those cards above. If i were you, look for a cheap 9500pro or 9700pro, would be even better and around the same price.

Thanks. I don't know much about video cards, just thought that this might be a good deal to replace the mx420 I have on my daughter's computer. Now that I research it though, I'll take it back tomorrow (a 5700 will be in Pickering if anyone wants it.)

I'm going to get the 6200 instead. I have a x800 in my computer and just want hers to keep up so we can play lan games (all new stuff to me). It's only got 128m but it should be better than this 5700, no?

RogerSingh
Feb 9th, 2006, 01:43 AM
Why? Because you think the DVI on a videocard is the same DVI used in an HDTV set? :rolleyes:

I am not sure what you are talking about, but I have my DVI from 6600 GT hooked up to my HDTV just fine. I use it to watch DVB and video files all the time.

Staples_Insider
Feb 9th, 2006, 02:05 AM
don't need it right now, but hey, staple staff rulz!!!

Well, some of do. I must say that I've been visiting this site for quite a while now (though only registering a short time ago) and I've seen some real boneheads posting junk on this forum. They've seem to have forgotten the whole philosophy and purpose behind this site...to inform others of bargains and other good deals. Sometimes, not everyone can take advantage of them and I congratulate those that do. However, to diss someone for trying to help others is purely a waste of other people's time.

When I came across this memo I just wanted to share some info with others that have allowed me to take advantage of deals they have found elsewhere. Remember that we are all consumers as well when we're not at work.

I wanted to make the post/thread as clearly as possible and as succinctly as possible. If I knew this was going to end up being a discussion about the framerates that these cards can generate then I've wouldn't have bothered. What are these guys expecting for a $30+ video card? Not everyone uses these things to play games. For many of us, they are an upgrade. For those of us who would laugh at them, save your breath and move on to the next thread.

I, believe it or not, have nothing to do with the staples.ca website! I do not control what happens there and I certainly did not have anything to do with the Samsung laser printer fiasco. In fact, I too tried to buy one online and was promptly denied the next day (I only got the filler item). If any of you are looking to speak to someone about the Staples website then you can contact Craig Taylor, head dude in charge of the site and its operations.

Thanks to those who appreciate the efforts of those that post deals, continued ignorance to those who waste our time with useless rebuttals.

Staples_Insider
Feb 9th, 2006, 02:07 AM
to discuss you $10 samsung printer that you didnt get? I'm in too, tell me when and where!
I, believe it or not, have nothing to do with the staples.ca website! I do not control what happens there and I certainly did not have anything to do with the Samsung laser printer fiasco. In fact, I too tried to buy one online and was promptly denied the next day (I only got the filler item). If any of you are looking to speak to someone about the Staples website then you can contact Craig Taylor, head dude in charge of the site and its operations.

Staples_Insider
Feb 9th, 2006, 02:12 AM
If you think staples pay is pretty good, head over to FS and BB. Being on salary now at staples, for the amount of work, it's not worth it. GM only get pays decent if it's a A volume store, B/C are only so so, definitely not worth the time.

Staying at a job for 6 years is nothing special. However if you switch jobs every few years, then you have a problem.

I was offended by the fact that he said "..if you dont' believe me.." That's a challenge.

May i ask which store you are from ( I assume you are GM since you are going on conference next week?) ? I would like to visit you or give you a call for a chat.

cheers,
cy
If I may comment on the issue of pay, it really depends on where you're from. There are different pay scales throughout the country so going from one province to another province could net you a healthy "market adjustment" (ie. raise for a lateral transfer). In any case, the hours are definitely better than those GMs from FS/BB as I get to make the schedule and only really have to work every other weekend. Days are about 9 hours (any more and you're just not doing your job!) and all GMs get the same stock options regardless of the volume of your store. Translation, take a look the splits and growth of the stock and you'll see why I stated earlier that the job is pretty good.

Yes, you may ask which store but I'd like to keep my job so I'll have to politely decline your invitation.

fl4wless
Feb 9th, 2006, 02:32 AM
What a piece of $%?! statement... I'm still running an FX5900U & it plays ALL the latest games out there... it even beats the crap out of a 6600gt in most of them... except for when it comes to SM 3.0... don't go bashing when not knowing... :mad:

Its a true statement, the FX line completely flopped, everyone knows it.

and 6600GT >>>>>>> 5900Ultra.
http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/07/05/vga_charts_vii/page4.html

Read the next few pages, for game benchmarks and you can see the winner by a hefty margin.

Enjoy.

Siefer999
Feb 9th, 2006, 02:57 AM
I, believe it or not, have nothing to do with the staples.ca website! I do not control what happens there and I certainly did not have anything to do with the Samsung laser printer fiasco. In fact, I too tried to buy one online and was promptly denied the next day (I only got the filler item). If any of you are looking to speak to someone about the Staples website then you can contact Craig Taylor, head dude in charge of the site and its operations.
sorry, i dint mean to put you on the defensive. i was just making fun of cy for his invitation... it sounded kindof obsessive...

sentinel
Feb 9th, 2006, 03:01 AM
Yes, you may ask which store but I'd like to keep my job so I'll have to politely decline your invitation.
Would you be willing to say what city or province at least? (as an ex-associate, you've gotten me curious ;))

fl4wless
Feb 9th, 2006, 03:05 AM
Why would we buy them now? Wouldn't the rebates NOT apply to purchases made before the rebate period?

return on the 15th, and buy it back, DUH!

its to gaurantee you get one.

mrken
Feb 9th, 2006, 03:23 AM
Would you be willing to say what city or province at least? (as an ex-associate, you've gotten me curious ;))
:eek: You mean you do not work at Staples anymore?! Did Futureshop/BestBuy PM you over?

I would like to have a PCI video card for a second monitor from my Dell 2400, but such a large MIR and I do not know any Staples friends. :(

sentinel
Feb 9th, 2006, 03:50 AM
:eek: You mean you do not work at Staples anymore?! Did Futureshop/BestBuy PM you over?

I would like to have a PCI video card for a second monitor from my Dell 2400, but such a large MIR and I do not know any Staples friends. :(
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=210532 ;)

Staples_Insider
Feb 9th, 2006, 03:55 AM
return on the 15th, and buy it back, DUH!

its to gaurantee you get one.

That's correct...buy one NOW to secure stock and have them re-issue the receipt when the rebate period begins. Most stores will do this without any hassles, often not even needing an MOD's approval. You won't even need to bring the product back in... :cheesygri

doublejack
Feb 9th, 2006, 10:16 AM
Well, some of do. I must say that I've been visiting this site for quite a while now (though only registering a short time ago) and I've seen some real boneheads posting junk on this forum. They've seem to have forgotten the whole philosophy and purpose behind this site...to inform others of bargains and other good deals. Sometimes, not everyone can take advantage of them and I congratulate those that do. However, to diss someone for trying to help others is purely a waste of other people's time.

When I came across this memo I just wanted to share some info with others that have allowed me to take advantage of deals they have found elsewhere. Remember that we are all consumers as well when we're not at work.



It's easy to be a bonehead on an internet forum. And it's easy to ask someone "where are you - I'm gonna come see you and we'll have a little one-on-one chat..."

What's not so easy is being altruistic, caring about total strangers, and going out of your way to help people when it doesn't benefit you at all.

My friends bug me all the time because I've been wih my company for seven years. At least my one friend used to because now he's laid off since he moved so much he has no seniority.

Please don't regret helping us because for every person who threadcraps your deal there are many others out here that appreciate your help. You are a credit to your company; they are lucky to have you.

etcbq
Feb 9th, 2006, 10:25 AM
Well, some of do. I must say that I've been visiting this site for quite a while now (though only registering a short time ago) and I've seen some real boneheads posting junk on this forum. They've seem to have forgotten the whole philosophy and purpose behind this site...to inform others of bargains and other good deals. Sometimes, not everyone can take advantage of them and I congratulate those that do. However, to diss someone for trying to help others is purely a waste of other people's time.

When I came across this memo I just wanted to share some info with others that have allowed me to take advantage of deals they have found elsewhere. Remember that we are all consumers as well when we're not at work.

I wanted to make the post/thread as clearly as possible and as succinctly as possible. If I knew this was going to end up being a discussion about the framerates that these cards can generate then I've wouldn't have bothered. What are these guys expecting for a $30+ video card? Not everyone uses these things to play games. For many of us, they are an upgrade. For those of us who would laugh at them, save your breath and move on to the next thread.

I, believe it or not, have nothing to do with the staples.ca website! I do not control what happens there and I certainly did not have anything to do with the Samsung laser printer fiasco. In fact, I too tried to buy one online and was promptly denied the next day (I only got the filler item). If any of you are looking to speak to someone about the Staples website then you can contact Craig Taylor, head dude in charge of the site and its operations.

Thanks to those who appreciate the efforts of those that post deals, continued ignorance to those who waste our time with useless rebuttals.

There are too many juveniles posting. So I wouldn't take it to heart. Just keep up the good work.

redflagcountry
Feb 9th, 2006, 10:46 AM
I want to buy the 5200 PCI card, could any nice staple guy do me a favour to check which store has the card in Ottawa now?

Thanks

Siefer999
Feb 9th, 2006, 10:58 AM
I want to buy the 5200 PCI card, could any nice staple guy do me a favour to check which store has the card in Ottawa now?

Thanks
call some stores

yuprules
Feb 9th, 2006, 11:00 AM
I want to buy the 5200 PCI card, could any nice staple guy do me a favour to check which store has the card in Ottawa now?

Thanks

Sure, pick up the phone and call...then someone will tell you if it is in stock.

isthatallugot
Feb 9th, 2006, 11:29 AM
Right now my brother is using my old ti card but you can't play BF2 with anything less then an FX for some stupid reason.

That is why I asked.

the reason u cant play BF2 on it is because the game requires shaders used in DX9 video cards. I know my Ti4400 couldnt play it so i purchased a 9800pro which did have it. I honestly would rather spend the few xtra bucks and buy a 6600gt which is very cheap still and the price for performance totally kills these. these rnt even the 5700 ultra :| i agree with the person who stated these are for internet surfing... i'd rather use my Ti4400.

viperman999
Feb 9th, 2006, 11:40 AM
on to topic. I need an upgrade for my other computers and the fx5700 is a sweet deal if I can get the 50% off. Any Staples friends want to help a follow RFD? Pm me if you can help. Thanks for the post.

lithiumli
Feb 9th, 2006, 11:56 AM
i'm going to see if i can pick one up, then i'm going ot buy the extended warrenty so in a couple of years i can't get a better one if this video "stops working" for some reason ;) ...hahaha

Spewn
Feb 9th, 2006, 12:05 PM
Why would you buy an extended warranty for a BFG product? they come with true lifetime warranties.

lithiumli
Feb 9th, 2006, 12:12 PM
oh damn forgot... damn! hahahaha


Why would you buy an extended warranty for a BFG product? they come with true lifetime warranties.

Staples_Insider
Feb 9th, 2006, 12:36 PM
Why would you buy an extended warranty for a BFG product? they come with true lifetime warranties.

Actually, I recall (someone correct me if I'm wrong) reading somewhere that BFG defines "lifetime warranties" as the product's lifecycle, not the owner, so the warranty you're getting may be shorting than you think. Besides, in a couple of years, the mucho coveted 7800GTX will probably at the same price levels as these are now.

lithiumli
Feb 9th, 2006, 05:26 PM
what is a product life cycle? is it untill they stop making the card? if it is then doesn't that mean that these cards don't have warrenty any more?


Actually, I recall (someone correct me if I'm wrong) reading somewhere that BFG defines "lifetime warranties" as the product's lifecycle, not the owner, so the warranty you're getting may be shorting than you think. Besides, in a couple of years, the mucho coveted 7800GTX will probably at the same price levels as these are now.

i-rui
Feb 9th, 2006, 05:37 PM
on to topic. I need an upgrade for my other computers and the fx5700 is a sweet deal if I can get the 50% off. Any Staples friends want to help a follow RFD? Pm me if you can help. Thanks for the post.

Yea, i'll second that statement.If any staples employee in teh misssissauga area wants to hook me up I'd apereciate it (except I'm looking at the PCI version)

airodus
Feb 9th, 2006, 06:03 PM
Actually, I recall (someone correct me if I'm wrong) reading somewhere that BFG defines "lifetime warranties" as the product's lifecycle, not the owner, so the warranty you're getting may be shorting than you think. Besides, in a couple of years, the mucho coveted 7800GTX will probably at the same price levels as these are now.

And you will let us know when Staples clears them out? :cheesygri

Kurtz7834
Feb 9th, 2006, 06:40 PM
Man, some of you guys are video card snobs. I've had a FX 5600 Ultra (128 MB) for a few years now and I can still run the latest games. Doom3 and Quake4 run ok on lower resolutions. F.E.A.R. is a slideshow but it is on most PCs anyways.

Not everyone can afford $200+ for a video card, or needs that kind of power. These cards can run most 2 year old plus games well. For peak performance, always run the latest official driver.

I was thinking of this 5700 256 MB deal, but I wonder if it's a big upgrade over what I have.

I'm looking for a good cheap (sub $200) video card deal, what would those in the know suggest?

airodus
Feb 9th, 2006, 06:47 PM
Man, some of you guys are video card snobs. I've had a FX 5600 Ultra (128 MB) for a few years now and I can still run the latest games. Doom3 and Quake4 run ok on lower resolutions. F.E.A.R. is a slideshow but it is on most PCs anyways.

Not everyone can afford $200+ for a video card, or needs that kind of power. These cards can run most 2 year old plus games well. For peak performance, always run the latest official driver.

I was thinking of this 5700 256 MB deal, but I wonder if it's a big upgrade over what I have.

I'm looking for a good cheap (sub $200) video card deal, what would those in the know suggest?

Don't bother, it's a marginal increase. Unless you can offload your old card for more than what you're paying.

Staples_Insider
Feb 9th, 2006, 07:21 PM
And you will let us know when Staples clears them out? :cheesygri

Absolutely!

doublejack
Feb 9th, 2006, 07:38 PM
I'm looking for a good cheap (sub $200) video card deal, what would those in the know suggest?

http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Catalog/cat_sku.asp?webid=614324&CatIds=89%2C93%2C3840%2C316&AffixedCode=WW&=

149.95 +filler-30 coupon -10 coupon - 70 easy rebate

Originally posted by frenzie2 in the other staples video card thread - mx4000.

May be in stock for you, it was for me when I ordered it yesterday. I'm wondering if it'll be better than this 5700.

THE JEW (RaVeN)
Feb 9th, 2006, 07:57 PM
Its a true statement, the FX line completely flopped, everyone knows it.

and 6600GT >>>>>>> 5900Ultra.
http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/07/05/vga_charts_vii/page4.html

Read the next few pages, for game benchmarks and you can see the winner by a hefty margin.

Enjoy.

While I agree that the 6600gt overall is a better card, you'll note that in the very link you provided that these scenarios occur:

HL2, Coast Demo, 1024X768, no AA/AF
5900Ultra>6600GT

Pacific Fighters, beau_torp, 1024X768, no AA/AF
5900Ultra>6600GT

Pacific Fighers, beau_torp, 1280X1024, no AA/AF
5900Ultra>6600GT

Sims 2, max quality, 1024X768, no smoothed edges
5900Ultra>6600GT

The 6600GT beats it in everything else, but as long as the person who said that their card was better was refering to these situations, they'd be correct.

Though, turn on AA/AF and the 5900Ultra sucks it up.

beljevina
Feb 15th, 2006, 12:43 PM
Today's the 15th for this - anyone had any success in picking these up prior to today? I have visited no less than 4 Staples, & only 1 of them had 1 of the items in stock; I'm after the $30 PCI one as a second card. No ill intent to the very conscientious 1st poster - in fact a big thanks to him - but this is such a non-sale & non-event; I'm surprised corporate Staples would go to the trouble of authoring such an internal memo or intention of sale memo, when there seems to be no stock in the stores, and there's no online presence to these items.

Creeper21
Feb 15th, 2006, 01:06 PM
one of my co-workers went on his luch to pick up one but there was none in stock. Nothing advertised either.

I checked and nothing on the website either.

Anybody else gave this deal a try?

polaris
Feb 15th, 2006, 01:10 PM
Actually, I recall (someone correct me if I'm wrong) reading somewhere that BFG defines "lifetime warranties" as the product's lifecycle, not the owner, so the warranty you're getting may be shorting than you think. Besides, in a couple of years, the mucho coveted 7800GTX will probably at the same price levels as these are now.

I doubt it. prices come down, but not that fast. Probably closer to 100-150.

WpgDeals
Feb 15th, 2006, 01:10 PM
I was hoping to snag one of the PCI cards for my Dell Dimension so I could get TV out. I phoned one of the stores this morning and asked them to check stock - none in Winnipeg. :(

I think I saw some AGPs on the clearance table last week.

WpgDeals
Feb 15th, 2006, 01:12 PM
one of my co-workers went on his luch to pick up one but there was none in stock. Nothing advertised either.

I checked and nothing on the website either.

Anybody else gave this deal a try?

I checked on the rebate section - the rebates show up there.

Kurtz7834
Feb 15th, 2006, 02:07 PM
I called Staples looking for the PCI card. Of the entire GTA, only a few stores have 1, and I'm told that is most certainly a demo / return / open box. Probably the other 2 cards are similar. I would only consider a new sealed box.

No stock for this deal. The PCI card is worth getting, the other 2 are not IMHO.

Don't waste your time guys, call the stores first as 90% of the stores likely won't have any.

mahjongmaniac
Feb 15th, 2006, 03:49 PM
deal's dead.

none of the vid. cards in OP can be found on stooples website now. (via item SKU search)

WpgDeals
Feb 15th, 2006, 04:20 PM
deal's dead.

none of the vid. cards in OP can be found on stooples website now. (via item SKU search)

They're weren't on-line from the beginning of the post. These are discountinued items. Staples staff can search for them on their internal system and tell you if there are any in your city. Rebates are in the Staples rebate section.

mahjongmaniac
Feb 15th, 2006, 04:23 PM
They're weren't on-line from the beginning of the post. These are discountinued items. Staples staff can search for them on their internal system and tell you if there are any in your city. Rebates are in the Staples rebate section.


heh... oops my bad :o

JustMike
Feb 15th, 2006, 04:56 PM
Why? Because you think the DVI on a videocard is the same DVI used in an HDTV set? :rolleyes:

I'm not sure why you think it's different...

Kurtz7834
Feb 15th, 2006, 05:14 PM
They're weren't on-line from the beginning of the post. These are discountinued items. Staples staff can search for them on their internal system and tell you if there are any in your city. Rebates are in the Staples rebate section.

What I don't understand is why they would bother having an MIR offer on discontinued items that there is almost no stock of? They're not advertising this either.

So they can have 50 people or less in Canada send in this MIR? Doesn't make sense to me.

WpgDeals
Feb 15th, 2006, 05:27 PM
What I don't understand is why they would bother having an MIR offer on discontinued items that there is almost no stock of? They're not advertising this either.

So they can have 50 people or less in Canada send in this MIR? Doesn't make sense to me.

I suspect this is a BFG rebate to help their retailers clear out obsolete stock.

TRK9
Feb 15th, 2006, 09:31 PM
I got a 5700LE a little while ago.

I called the catalogue orders dept. and asked if they carry the item, they told me it was out of stock, but they called the store closest to me and found one.

It was $137.97 after tax and it has an easy rebate, no cutting UPCs... so it'll cost me $67.97 after MIR....

I wonder if I can go back and switch my payment to gift cards, and save an extra $17....

i-rui
Feb 17th, 2006, 01:17 AM
would the BFG FX5200 256MB PCI card be a worth while upgrade from my stock integrated card ATI Radeon Xpress 200 (which shares 128 mb frommy memeory)... from a eMachines T654.

What kind of TV out does it have?

WpgDeals
Feb 17th, 2006, 01:58 AM
would the BFG FX5200 256MB PCI card be a worth while upgrade from my stock integrated card ATI Radeon Xpress 200 (which shares 128 mb frommy memeory)... from a eMachines T654.

What kind of TV out does it have?

The BFG FX5200 has only SVideo out. Not sure how the speed compares. It is discontinued and probably out of stock by now. I tried to get one on the 15th. No luck :(

JB7
Feb 17th, 2006, 03:17 AM
I tried to find the fx5200 pci today but no luck. Apparently there are none in BC. Does anybody know of any other places to check for pci video cards? I'm trying to find one that can at least play guild wars.

WpgDeals
Feb 17th, 2006, 10:55 AM
I tried to find the fx5200 pci today but no luck. Apparently there are none in BC. Does anybody know of any other places to check for pci video cards? I'm trying to find one that can at least play guild wars.

Best Buy has the 3DFuzion GeForce FX 5500 256MB PCI Graphics Card on sale for $79.99 after rebates. Sold out on-line but still available in some stores. http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0926INGFS10069205&catid=20397

akito925
Feb 17th, 2006, 11:09 AM
I'd think I'll just pick up the 6600 at canada computers for $150.

162
Feb 17th, 2006, 11:28 AM
would the BFG FX5200 256MB PCI card be a worth while upgrade from my stock integrated card ATI Radeon Xpress 200 (which shares 128 mb frommy memeory)... from a eMachines T654.

What kind of TV out does it have?


I was thinkin' the same thing.

AzNCrAzYcOoLeR
Feb 17th, 2006, 12:01 PM
dont even bother with the GTA, they are all OOS, checked the system already

fratello25
Feb 20th, 2006, 12:48 PM
I just picked-up the BFG FX5200 256MB PCI card in Ottawa. I was told the downtown location (Bank St.) still had 2 of these left, but I didn't call to confirm. It may be worth a shot.

BlueMax
Feb 20th, 2006, 02:04 PM
I was thinkin' the same thing.

No. The onboard video is the same speed or slightly better. Better quality too.

Coolme
Feb 20th, 2006, 03:34 PM
No. The onboard video is the same speed or slightly better. Better quality too.

I am sure the 256mb FX 5200 is better than the ATI xpress 200 onboard or Intel GMA 900/950.

BlueMax
Feb 20th, 2006, 03:46 PM
I am sure the 256mb FX 5200 is better than the ATI xpress 200 onboard or Intel GMA 900/950.

Better than GMA900, yes. Better than a Radeon 8500/9200? No. (The ATI xPress 200 is almost tied with the new GeForce 6150 for the fastest IGP out on the market, which is a little slower than a GeForce 6200 or Radeon x300.

The 5200 may even be a step DOWN.

So you're wrong. ;)

northeastwind
Feb 20th, 2006, 05:22 PM
I have tried xPress 200 once, the deal of that HP 3500+ machine. Not very good in Counter Strike. But 5200 does a really good job in that game. I guess that may be because of the shared memory. On-board(card board, I mean) ram will always run faster than those shared rams. And this 5200 should have DVI,right? Good for LCD with DVI input.


Better than GMA900, yes. Better than a Radeon 8500/9200? No. (The ATI xPress 200 is almost tied with the new GeForce 6150 for the fastest IGP out on the market, which is a little slower than a GeForce 6200 or Radeon x300.

The 5200 may even be a step DOWN.

So you're wrong. ;)

Kurtz7834
Feb 20th, 2006, 06:27 PM
The 5200 PCI was a good deal IMHO simply because it's PCI. PCI cards are becoming rare and is the one type of videocard you can use in pretty much any PC, including a low end Dell Dimension. Plus as mentioned good for multiple monitor setups. The card is slow for gaming but probably fine for most other stuff.

The 5700 AGP was not a bad deal either IMHO, for someone who just plays 2 year old+ games and wanted an upgrade from crappy onboard video.

But in the GTA it doesn't look like anything was available. So unfortunately a non deal.

Spewn
Feb 20th, 2006, 07:08 PM
Actually, I recall (someone correct me if I'm wrong) reading somewhere that BFG defines "lifetime warranties" as the product's lifecycle, not the owner, so the warranty you're getting may be shorting than you think. Besides, in a couple of years, the mucho coveted 7800GTX will probably at the same price levels as these are now.

The reason why I said "True lifetime warranty" is because it lasts you're lifetime not the card's. People have rma'ed 6600gts and got 6800 ultras in return. BFG,EVGA,and XFX all have true lifetime warranties.

162
Feb 20th, 2006, 07:55 PM
No. The onboard video is the same speed or slightly better. Better quality too.

My thoughts were to also increase my Ram to the level of 512mb instead of 512-128shared video. Know what I mean?

BlueMax
Feb 20th, 2006, 11:11 PM
My thoughts were to also increase my Ram to the level of 512mb instead of 512-128shared video. Know what I mean?

Video memory does NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING for speed.
Video memory holds the pretty pictures, so it might POSSIBLY look a little prettier.... but I doubt it. You will gain nothing by purchasing a 5200 card. If you're going to spend any money for video (put it in a jar for a while) make it BETTER than a Geforce 6200 (eg: 6600 or higher) or better than a Radeon x300 (eg: x600, 700, 800, x1600, etc.)

Anything else is just a waste of money for minimal-if-any gain.

BlueMax
Feb 21st, 2006, 12:43 PM
Oh... and one more thought. If you've got Radeon Xpress200 video, that means you've got a PCI-e16 graphics slot - not AGP. Installing a regular PCI card would be even sillier - unless you REALLY needed 2nd monitor support.

JackyTheBeaver
Feb 21st, 2006, 12:59 PM
Video memory does NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING for speed.
Video memory holds the pretty pictures, so it might POSSIBLY look a little prettier.... but I doubt it. You will gain nothing by purchasing a 5200 card. If you're going to spend any money for video (put it in a jar for a while) make it BETTER than a Geforce 6200 (eg: 6600 or higher) or better than a Radeon x300 (eg: x600, 700, 800, x1600, etc.)

Anything else is just a waste of money for minimal-if-any gain.

I'm pretty sure he means he has 512MB system memory but his video is taking up 128MB. By getting a dedicated video card, he has the benefit of releasing more memory for main application on the side. If that's the case then I agree he's on the right track. 386MB of memory is okay with WinXP, but 512MB is better. Although for the sole purpose of releasing more memory, you might consider getting a new stick of 256MB memory and gain more memory that way - personally if the price point is good on the video card, I would just get the video card, because for dual DDR and other considerations, getting a lone stick of 256MB isn't practical some of the time.

I would also like to add that for high end video cards, there is a difference between a 128MB and 256MB version (isn't that why Nvidia made 256MB versions of 6800GT PICe very hard to get stock for a while?), but at the fx5200 level, I agree it doesn't make much of a difference.

stoneblade
Feb 21st, 2006, 01:19 PM
wondering is the dell 2400 use PCI or PCI express card??
any card it better then the buildin onboard card ??

BlueMax
Feb 21st, 2006, 01:24 PM
wondering is the dell 2400 use PCI or PCI express card??
any card it better then the buildin onboard card ??

There is no AGP/PCI-e, as seen here. (http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1610&page=3)
The PCI 5200 would be a very noticable improvement in this case.

Montague
Feb 21st, 2006, 01:28 PM
There is no AGP/PCI-e, as seen here. (http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1610&page=3)
The PCI 5200 would be a very noticable improvement in this case.
What about for a Dell 3100? :?:

BlueMax
Feb 21st, 2006, 01:28 PM
I'm pretty sure he means he has 512MB system memory but his video is taking up 128MB. By getting a dedicated video card, he has the benefit of releasing more memory for main application on the side. If that's the case then I agree he's on the right track. 386MB of memory is okay with WinXP, but 512MB is better. Although for the sole purpose of releasing more memory, you might consider getting a new stick of 256MB memory and gain more memory that way - personally if the price point is good on the video card, I would just get the video card, because for dual DDR and other considerations, getting a lone stick of 256MB isn't practical some of the time.

I would also like to add that for high end video cards, there is a difference between a 128MB and 256MB version (isn't that why Nvidia made 256MB versions of 6800GT PICe very hard to get stock for a while?), but at the fx5200 level, I agree it doesn't make much of a difference.

Good points. For $50 you could add a stick of 512MB giving that extra system memory so you can dedicate 128MB for video without penalty. Money better spent than on a video card that's almost the exct same speed as what's already onboard.

As to nVidia's 128MB vs 256MB cards, the difference in speed was not by having more RAM (95% of the time) but in BETTER, FASTER RAM being used (eg. DDR vs GDDR3) That's what makes the 7800GTX 512MB so awesome - it's not the extra 256MB of RAM, it's that the RAM is clocked about 20% higher than the regular 256MB versions! (as well as extra pipelines, but that's not a RAM thing.)

What can I say? I love video cards and know entirely TOO much about 'em. :)

WpgDeals
Feb 21st, 2006, 02:00 PM
What about for a Dell 3100? :?:
According to Dell's web site the 3100 has:
2 PCI slots
1 PCIe x1 slot

So PCI graphics is a waste of $ in the 3100. Go with PCI Express if you need better graphics performance.