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mparsons
Feb 5th, 2006, 03:02 PM
First time rogers picks to simsub a hd program, and they pick the freakin' superbowl. Man, people are going to go nuts tomorrow on Rogers.

Sigh.. why rogers.. why..
malbadon
Feb 5th, 2006, 05:51 PM
because Global broadcasts in HDTV and have the rights for the Canadian broadcast. They say simsub it, it gets simsubbed.
d-man
Feb 5th, 2006, 06:05 PM
Man, that's total BS.
Stupid Global :mad:
mparsons
Feb 5th, 2006, 07:01 PM
as a side note, both shaw and starchoice are not simsubbing... lol

And I believe theres a crtc regulation that stipulates if you dont have an OTA signal, you cant simsub, and globalHD does NOT have one....

ANyone in ottawa/london confirm/deny that their detroit ABC signal is NOT being simsubbed?
mlerner
Feb 5th, 2006, 07:08 PM
as a side note, both shaw and starchoice are not simsubbing... lol

And I believe theres a crtc regulation that stipulates if you dont have an OTA signal, you cant simsub, and globalHD does NOT have one....

ANyone in ottawa/london confirm/deny that their detroit ABC signal is NOT being simsubbed?

Just quickly checked, looks like they're simsubbing in Ottawa.
mparsons
Feb 5th, 2006, 07:13 PM
Just quickly checked, looks like they're simsubbing in Ottawa.

on the HD abc detroit channel?

I know for a fact that all normal SD channels are being simsubbed, as its been in the past, but this is new for HD.
malbadon
Feb 5th, 2006, 07:15 PM
Shaw doesn't carry GlobalHD (does Starchoice?)
My understanding is that its not a OTA requirement, its a requirement that the network can demand their signal is simsubbed over the US version as long as their version is the same video quality.
Would assume if by next year Shaw carries GlobalHD, then the US HD feed will be simsubbed by Global.
mparsons
Feb 5th, 2006, 07:18 PM
Shaw doesn't carry GlobalHD (does Starchoice?)
My understanding is that its not a OTA requirement, its a requirement that the network can demand their signal is simsubbed over the US version as long as their version is the same video quality.
Would assume if by next year Shaw carries GlobalHD, then the US HD feed will be simsubbed by Global.

Ive heard that too, unfortunately seeing as ABCHD is 720p, and global is 1080i, the same signal quality should also be thrown out, as global now has to convert it. Dont think global really cares anyways.

It really does suck though.. oh well.. :-(
blizzah
Feb 5th, 2006, 07:18 PM
What's Simsub?
malbadon
Feb 5th, 2006, 07:26 PM
When you watch American Idol of Fox, yet you are seeing Canadian commercials, thats simsubbing.
The network that has the Canadian broadcast rights of the show has ordered the broadcaster to overlay their networks broadcast of the show over the US networks feed.
In the case of American Idol as an example, it means whether you watch Global or Fox, you see the same Canadian commercials.

No one ever cares, except for Superbowl time :)
Ojam
Feb 5th, 2006, 08:11 PM
No one ever cares, except for Superbowl time :)

I do, there has been lots of time when one show is subbed, and then the next shows are different but whoever is in charge of switching it back doesn't do it till the different show is half over, its a BS policy.
mparsons
Feb 5th, 2006, 08:15 PM
And seeing as HD is its infancy in Canada, and HD canadian channels screw up ALL THE TIME, the crtc made new rules for HD simsubbing... Too bad rogers doesnt feel need to obey them.

Definitely worst looking PQ of any HD football game Ive seen. Go Rogers! Go Global!
mlerner
Feb 5th, 2006, 08:17 PM
on the HD abc detroit channel?

I know for a fact that all normal SD channels are being simsubbed, as its been in the past, but this is new for HD.

Right, I forgot this thread was about the HD feed.
bembol
Feb 3rd, 2008, 06:30 PM
CTV is ****ing getting worse with their BS network promo. :evil: :evil:

Commercials is part of Super Bowl and I doubt I'll see them.


Now I have no sound!!!
nano
Feb 3rd, 2008, 06:38 PM
http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/NEWS/RELEASES/2008/i080128.htm

this explains why
CSK'sMom
Feb 3rd, 2008, 09:02 PM
Star Choice is not simsubbing the SD feed. We're watching the SuperBowl on Fox Rochester and getting all the US commercials...
Haris
Feb 3rd, 2008, 09:05 PM
Guys.. ROGERS is NOT simsubbing in the toronto area on fox HD channel 531... confirmed when i compare it to my charlie FTA.. rogers 531 is true fox signal with the american commercials!!!

as of the giants touchdown.. they are now back to canadian feed ... boo
GO GIANTS GO!!!
nalababe
Feb 3rd, 2008, 09:26 PM
Actually I just finished watching a CTV commercial on Fox 531 on Rogers in Toronto....
Haris
Feb 3rd, 2008, 09:28 PM
Actually I just finished watching a CTV commercial on Fox 531 on Rogers in Toronto....

yes it was on from 9:00 but changed back at 9:11 hence me editing my post!!!

anywayz, the commercials can be seen if you guys had charlie or star choice or bell express vu with FOX Detroit
CSK'sMom
Feb 3rd, 2008, 09:36 PM
Most of the commercials can already be seen at http://www.myspace.com/superbowlads . By the end of the game they wioll all be up...
ClubberLang
Feb 3rd, 2008, 11:26 PM
To avoid this entire mess do what I did: Watch it using an antenna. You can pick up the direct broadcast from FOX Buffallo. All without having to pay and all in HD :D
1226
Feb 3rd, 2008, 11:44 PM
To avoid this entire mess do what I did: Watch it using an antenna. You can pick up the direct broadcast from FOX Buffallo. All without having to pay and all in HD :D

Good thing we all live in southern Ontario. :rolleyes:
ClubberLang
Feb 4th, 2008, 11:45 AM
Good thing we all live in southern Ontario. :rolleyes:

I mentioned Buffallo because it's where I get my signal. U mad? Southern Ontario is not the only place in Canada where you can get OTA HD. There's people in your neck of the woods that get it too: http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=41173&page=3


A complete forum:
http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=129
1226
Feb 4th, 2008, 03:18 PM
I mentioned Buffallo because it's where I get my signal. U mad? Southern Ontario is not the only place in Canada where you can get OTA HD. There's people in your neck of the woods that get it too: http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=41173&page=3


A complete forum:
http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=129

Not mad, no. It's just not a viable avenue for the vast majority of us outside southern Ont. (due to the mountains for us out here, distance from the border for the rest) Not that you can't get it out here, but you have to be at a certain elevation in certain areas to get US stations consistently, if at all. Downside of living in a mountainous area.
jhardy
Feb 4th, 2008, 08:50 PM
Most of the commercials can already be seen at http://www.myspace.com/superbowlads . By the end of the game they wioll all be up...

Yeah, as far as the US commercials are concerned, simsubs on the Superbowl don't matter much anymore.
zod
Feb 5th, 2008, 12:49 AM
I noticed a few weeks ago when watching the seahawks games that they weren't simsubbing (I didn't realize before now that there was a term for this :) ), over the US network feeds.

Therefore yesterday we got to watch the superbowl with the US ads for probably only the 2nd time I can remember (friend of mine had some directtv thing going on a number of years ago and he pulled a us network via satellite).
It was nice, and PQ was very solid.

I'm on Shaw in Edmonton btw, I hope shaw doesn't have to subsim next year, its always bugged me, no matter what they're simsubbing.