WTF - pics of guy going berserk on female courier at Kensington Market

[diddy321]

Boingboing is linking this now, way to go Toronto!

WTF is wrong with people. This dude apparantly threw a coffee cup out of his car, and she threw it back in. He gets out and goes nuts. What a low life.

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:8Khg0SaM6HEJ:www.citynoise.org/article/2770+bike+courier+toronto&hl=en&gl=ca&ct=clnk&cd=7&client=firefox-a

* Google cache as main site seems to be overloaded

Totallycrap has the pics and a summary hosted here:

http://www.totallycrap.com/media/motoristvscourier/

[D-Sisive]

what kind of lowlife beats on a female

you can see in one of the pics another guy suckerpunches him though so good for that

so did he throw out a cup of coffee that hit the courier so she threw it back or she picked it up and threw it back in (if the latter, she has some issues too)

[duckdown]

Wheres this magical hardcore suckerpunch?

[frogger]

I only see him beating on her bike.

[duckdown]

No kidding, and that courier looks like a bee hotch.. If she threw some nasty messy coffee cup into my leather interior SUV like they are fighting in front of I'd be pretty ticked off too

[Binden]

if the dude threw the coffee cup and hit her... thats totally what i would do.


If it was cause he was littering or something like that... i would have just handed the cup back to him

[spm24]

read the comments .

the dude littered so the girl threw the garbage back at him . he then threw his coffee on her . she keys up his window and the attack you see was him acting on her keying up his car .

kinda stupid when you think about it if she didnt key his car he wouldnt have done nothing .if she so much cares about the litter she should have thrown it away . not everyone uses garbage cans even though they should ,

[Ojam]

i did not see the beginning of this, but the report goes as follows:
motorist throws food out of window. courier, disliking littering, picks up food and throws food back in car. motorist dumps coffee on courier. courier scratches car with key. road rage ensues.

the courier is female. i 'got away' with taking pics by just doing it openly. nobody noticed me because the focus is obviously on the altercation at hand.

i followed the motorist back to his car to photograph his license plate number. he proceeded to open his trunk, take out a baseball bat, and charge me. i walked away, and was one of only two witnesses to stay at the scene and give a statement to police.

Quote from photographer.

[x86asm]

for some strange reason I can't get to the site. Can anybody post a pic?

[hyperion]

I don't know on who's side to stand on, both did a wrong.

Guy threw his coffee on her...
Chick keyed his car..

[steve.m]

while i am waiting for pics to show up i noticed this:

Hello all! I am the girl in the pics. My name is Leah and although I am a courier, I was WALKING my bike up Agusta when the incident took place. He was driving and opened his door (while driving) and yelling profanities he threw his beef patty on a bun out of his door. I walked over to his car, and right or wrong, I opened the door and "gave" him back his food (which he MUST have dropped by accident!) He then lost it, and jumped out of his car and threw 2 large Timmies at meand then grabbed me by my helmet and tried to toss me around a bit.It was at that point that my bike lock key (that I wear on a bracelet around my wrist) scratched his car. I have read all the postings about people sympathetic to the car driver due to the expense of repairing the scratch but sorry folks, i doubt that it will cost him anything to repair as it was a 1.2cm mark in the clearcoat only(did not damage the paint) but regardless a scratch none the less. Then with some "encouraging" from some helpfull bystanders he got in his car and drove away...or so I thought! People were comming up to me and saying that I should have him charged but at that point I just figured I had made my anti-littering point and and eye for and eye with the coffee shower, I mean I did throw that patty right. But just as I was getting on my bike to ride home he came running back and thats when the photos start. He had driven half a block and decided that the scratch was worthy of a more thorough beating I guess.
Now for a bit of clarity on a couple of things...
The blonde girl is his girlfriend...she also makes a pretty good shield from an angry mob!
I was NOT punching anyone! especially not with keys in my hand! I was just trying to save my bike (I just built it a week ago!!)
And as for the police charging him....
He took off in his car as soon as he heard the sirens....they chased him down but it is not a crime to leave the scene. They were going to charge him with a variety of things including assult with a weapon x2, mischief x2, aggravated assult, etc, but the police informed me that if I went ahead and placed those charges then they would have to charge me with mischeif for the scratch.
So in the interests of good karma (and my own sanity) I have opted to "let it go" and allow the universe to repay this angermanagement case in its own way.
And finally to those who say that i must have had a sudden case of self ritousness in regard to littering.....YOU ARE WRONG! I hate littering and NEVER do> In fact I am constantly picking up litter and make my son pick up litter at the park. I just feel that it is such a fixable issue in the world today. If everyone would not throw their own piece of litter then there would be none!! What a concept eh!?
enjoy the beautiful winter riding!


edit: tried a few times but:
http://picpop.com/gallery/albums/userpics/1-14-05/icanseeshit.jpg

[hyperion]

Ok. Never mind, definetly guy's fault. What a douche. He doesn't deserve a girlfriend that looks like that.

[ledorky]

They were both wrong.
But the dude has some serious issues. If I were the chick, I'd have him charged.

He pays for the damage to the bike (and the fines for littering) and she pays for his car damage.
Oh and the brave little dude is hilarious.

[steve.m]

reading near the last few post I found:

"h00l: 29th Jan 2006 - 23:35 GMT

OK folks. It's time for me to reveal that this whole stunt was an attempt to gauge public reaction
to a hypothetical scenario. I hope that none of you feel that you have been fooled or abused by this
project. Thanks for taking the time to comment."

---
When I look at the OP of the pics name it is the same username
eg:
"hool: 26th Jan 2006 - 07:58 GMT

the first few are dark because i was set to manual exposure for a bright shot before this suddenly appeared across the street."

---

so is this all BS?

maybe because i am thinking he had pics and could have easily sold them to city tv or the sun and made some money , at least a few hundred dollars for the story if it were real. Also how come the story was not in the media?

this hool is a prick for duping ppl and getting them worked up if the story is fake.


edit2: wait a sec this is confusing I just noticed something in the detail of the hool username. one is spelt h00l and the other is hool. One uses zeros and the other uses o's. So this is not the same username.
oh crap is this story real or fake?

also "They were going to charge him with a variety of things including assult with a weapon x2, mischief x2, aggravated assult...So in the interests of good karma (and my own sanity) I have opted to "let it go" "

she says she decided not to press charges but I know that with serious charges the police will charge you even if the victim does not want to press. how can the police not charge him for weapons charge (ie baseball bat). hmm story smells funny.

[Truth]

The Rick James guy in Kensington would have beaten them both down for stomping on his turf.....

[nano]

http://photos1.blogger.com/img/217/1285/640/rick%20james.1.jpg The Rick James guy in Kensington would have beaten them both down for stomping on his turf.....

[Truth]

http://photos1.blogger.com/img/217/1285/640/rick%20james.1.jpg


Kensington and Alexandra park aint no joke!

[googoo]

".if she so much cares about the litter she should have thrown it away . not everyone uses garbage cans even though they should .

Only people with a moral compass use the garbage cans, People that don't give a ****, or want "be a rebel", or are too lazy.


Brent

[Kasakato]

At least no one was hurt. Interesting read and pics.

[Peni5]

were punches thrown??? Did the lady fight back at all?

[ephemera]

I see fights between bike messengers and drivers all the time. This is nothing.

I saw this lady bike messenger riding fast in front of Union yelling at like 100 people to move out of her way. She ended up hitting some old man with her bike (he was walking). The guy was unharmed amazingly but she went flying off. No one bothered to help her, just the old man.

If you need a licence to drive on the road, maybe we should consider having a bike licence if your going to ride in traffic.

[Anessa]

Well Peni5 is Truth...that makes sense.

[curtis]

You see so many people making fun of the guy getting 'beat' by the girl, when the fact of the matter is, if he were REALLY crazy, she would have gotten her ass kicked.

[x86asm]

Wow Truth is banned now, the things that happen while I'm playing Low Grav rockets in UT 1. Damn, what an ass that guy is. It's like he came out of nowhere and just starting smashing her bike.

[kingsley]

The girl was stupid for trying to be a vigilante. The guy could've had a gun or something.

[Emancipated]

Intentional or not, that lady defaced his car. How many of you would let that slide? Imagine the scenario where you come back to a scratch mark on your parked car; the first thought that enters your mind is "Son of a b... I'll kill that [expletive] if I get my hands on them". This carrier is obviously too green peace centric for her own good. Kudos to the guy for not just slugging her in the face. Cops should really charge people with littering, if they don't do it, why bother having the by-law?

[CSR]

herLeah: 27th Jan 2006 - 22:45 GMT

Hello all! I am the girl in the pics. My name is Leah and although I am a courier, I was WALKING my bike up Agusta when the incident took place. He was driving and opened his door (while driving) and yelling profanities he threw his beef patty on a bun out of his door. I walked over to his car, and right or wrong, I opened the door and "gave" him back his food (which he MUST have dropped by accident!) He then lost it, and jumped out of his car and threw 2 large Timmies at meand then grabbed me by my helmet and tried to toss me around a bit.It was at that point that my bike lock key (that I wear on a bracelet around my wrist) scratched his car. I have read all the postings about people sympathetic to the car driver due to the expense of repairing the scratch but sorry folks, i doubt that it will cost him anything to repair as it was a 1.2cm mark in the clearcoat only(did not damage the paint) but regardless a scratch none the less. Then with some "encouraging" from some helpfull bystanders he got in his car and drove away...or so I thought! People were comming up to me and saying that I should have him charged but at that point I just figured I had made my anti-littering point and and eye for and eye with the coffee shower, I mean I did throw that patty right. But just as I was getting on my bike to ride home he came running back and thats when the photos start. He had driven half a block and decided that the scratch was worthy of a more thorough beating I guess.
Now for a bit of clarity on a couple of things...
The blonde girl is his girlfriend...she also makes a pretty good shield from an angry mob!
I was NOT punching anyone! especially not with keys in my hand! I was just trying to save my bike (I just built it a week ago!!)
And as for the police charging him....
He took off in his car as soon as he heard the sirens....they chased him down but it is not a crime to leave the scene. They were going to charge him with a variety of things including assult with a weapon x2, mischief x2, aggravated assult, etc, but the police informed me that if I went ahead and placed those charges then they would have to charge me with mischeif for the scratch.
So in the interests of good karma (and my own sanity) I have opted to "let it go" and allow the universe to repay this angermanagement case in its own way.
And finally to those who say that i must have had a sudden case of self ritousness in regard to littering.....YOU ARE WRONG! I hate littering and NEVER do> In fact I am constantly picking up litter and make my son pick up litter at the park. I just feel that it is such a fixable issue in the world today. If everyone would not throw their own piece of litter then there would be none!! What a concept eh!?
enjoy the beautiful winter riding!

[Brandon]

reading near the last few post I found:

"h00l: 29th Jan 2006 - 23:35 GMT

OK folks. It's time for me to reveal that this whole stunt was an attempt to gauge public reaction
to a hypothetical scenario. I hope that none of you feel that you have been fooled or abused by this
project. Thanks for taking the time to comment."

---
When I look at the OP of the pics name it is the same username
eg:
"hool: 26th Jan 2006 - 07:58 GMT

the first few are dark because i was set to manual exposure for a bright shot before this suddenly appeared across the street."

---

so is this all BS?

maybe because i am thinking he had pics and could have easily sold them to city tv or the sun and made some money , at least a few hundred dollars for the story if it were real. Also how come the story was not in the media?

this hool is a prick for duping ppl and getting them worked up if the story is fake.


edit2: wait a sec this is confusing I just noticed something in the detail of the hool username. one is spelt h00l and the other is hool. One uses zeros and the other uses o's. So this is not the same username.
oh crap is this story real or fake?

also "They were going to charge him with a variety of things including assult with a weapon x2, mischief x2, aggravated assult...So in the interests of good karma (and my own sanity) I have opted to "let it go" "

she says she decided not to press charges but I know that with serious charges the police will charge you even if the victim does not want to press. how can the police not charge him for weapons charge (ie baseball bat). hmm story smells funny.

Those aren't the same usernames...

h00l vs hool ???

[d_jedi]

Well, at the one site (the only one I could get on), we only have the woman's view of the situation - which certainly is not very objective. Notice how she tries to downplay her scratching the guy's car?
"my bike lock key scratched his car" - translation: I scratched his car with my keys
"i doubt that it will cost him anything to repair as it was a 1.2cm mark in the clearcoat only"

I wasn't there, but based on the information given, I've come up with what I think is a plausable scenerio:
a) Car stops at red light.
b) Guy throws garbage out of car.
c) Girl, seeing the litter, picks up the garbage, opens the car door (by her own admission), and throws it back inside, probably uttering profanities at the driver.
d) Guy gets out of car, confrontation ensues. Coffee cups (with coffee?) are thrown, car is scratched, profanities uttered by both sides.
e) Guy drives off, potentially at urging of bystanders, potentially to prevent further damage to his car.
f) Guy gets out of car, and inspects car - finds scratch.
g) Guy runs back, altercation continues as seen in photos

In my opinion, neither side is in the right in this. Littering is a minor annoyance - and she had no right to open his car door and throw the garbage back at him. She also had no right to scratch his car. On the other hand, we can see clearly from the pictures that he didn't act in a way that he should have, either..

[Slimfast]

None of them are in the right. They both screwed up equally. I hate it when people go vigilante.

[runamuck]

lol..this is all over the net..



http://www.worksafevideos.com/photos/canada/road_rage.html
http://www.boingboing.net/2006/01/28/berserk_motorist_bea.html

[airodus]

crazy crazy world

i wish they both had guns and just killed each other. they probably would have if they did.

[ZenOps]

Haha, this is pretty funny.

A quick google of littering fines in Toronto comes up with $105 to $305 for throwing that burger/coffee cup out the window.

If I was a merchant in the area in Kensington and not just a bike courier, I'd probably throw it back at him too (mess up my business area with your crap, your gonna get the same treatment back)

Had it been Chicago, I would have expected the bike courier to be packing and at least blackjack his front windshield in addition to keying it.

BTW: By throwing coffee at someone, that would be considered assault (criminal offense) Keying a car would be a misdemeanor with a heavy fine (usually damages to repair) If it went to court, the guy would be in serious ****.

Reminds me of that guy that squirted (with water, and luckily only water) Tom cruise with the fake microphone. Or the guy who cream-pied Ralph Klein, if pursued both can carry serious jailtime.

[jedijome]

the guy had no excuse for what he did.

yes she keyed his car but he assaulted her with hot coffee (twice) and then decided to beat on her and her bike? the damage to her bike will probably be worth more than the scratch on his car anyways.

on the other hand she shouldn't have thrown the food back in his car either and the scratch could very well have been accidental as he was pushing and kicking her.

[gordholio]

It was wrong of the guy to do what he did.
However, the guy was obviously upset when he threw his burger out of the car, so I don't think it was the wisest idea to make him even more upset by giving him back his burger.
That said, there's no excuse for a man beating on a woman.

[CSR]

the guy had no excuse for what he did.

yes she keyed his car but he assaulted her with hot coffee (twice) and then decided to beat on her and her bike? the damage to her bike will probably be worth more than the scratch on his car anyways.

on the other hand she shouldn't have thrown the food back in his car either and the scratch could very well have been accidental as he was pushing and kicking her.

She did nto key his car,she scratched it when they were scuffling the first time.

Read her personal account.

[Darkdream]

I think its bull **** that it was and accident that she keyed his car.. But then again i wasn't there..... but its plausible that after someone pours coffee on you, i think its a normal reaction for her to seek revenge... and in this case she decided to key his car.... With that said it was stupid for her to throw the burger back in..... she had no right to do that, but neither did he have the right to beat her up and her bike....

So both of them are equally wrong.... The guy definitely needs anger management lessons and she needs to think about the consquences before she does stupid things like that cause by doing what she did is just asking for trouble which she didn't expect..... But seesh what did she expect a person would do after throwing the burger back in his car??? it pisses me off how people don't think about the consequences of their actions....

[airodus]

actually she assualted him first. she opened his car door and threw a hamburger at him. that is assualt. so he littered, she assaulted him, he assualted her back, she keyed his car, etc....

they are both idiots and should both be locked up

[gordholio]

I just re-read this woman's account and she states how she hates littering.
Causing an issue over someone littering is a bit over the top for me.
If she was so worried about the litter, she should have just picked the burger up and put it in a nearby garbage can, rather than taunt someone who was obviously angry already.

[gordholio]

actually she assualted him first. she opened his car door and threw a hamburger at him. that is assualt. so he littered, she assaulted him, he assualted her back, she keyed his car, etc....

they are both idiots and should both be locked up
Just because people are idiots, doesn't mean you lock them up.

[airodus]

Just because people are idiots, doesn't mean you lock them up.

it does when they assault each other and commit various other crimes

[gordholio]

it does when they assault each other and commit various other crimes
You can fine them instead or make them do hours of community service instead.

[sans]

they're both nuts.

[sfu_lifer]

The guy should be charged and then ordered to go to anger management therapy. He's nutso. The greenpeace chick is also stupid but the dude is so far in the wrong on this one. He was beating on her and afterwards then he goes to his car to get a baseball bat for the guy taking pics?
He's obviously out of his gourd and needs the therapy badly. If I were his blondie, I'd dump him ASAP. She'll probably end up in the hospital someday.

[steve.m]

Those aren't the same usernames...

h00l vs hool ???

no they are not the same username. One uses 0 and the other O. Serves me right for not checking the details and falling into the trap of believing at face value stuff on the internet. But they have a weird forum setup there too. Anyone can put any username and just post. Also I am not totally convinced the story is true for multiple reasons and I posted my concerns/questions on their forum.

[airodus]

You can fine them instead or make them do hours of community service instead.

Hahah that's ironic. Let's have them pick up trash or something.

[sMoothEric]

Every day at one particularly long light I see people emptying their ash trays on the street in front of me.
Some days I want to get out of my car and stuff their butts back in their cars.
Now I know its assult I won't.

Thanks RFD!

-=sMoothEric=-

[FastFokker]

Hahah that's ironic. Let's have them pick up trash or something.
I think it's a fantastic idea.

When you commit a crime you should be subjected to endure the other side of your crime.

[65505201]

Question:

If the courier was a guy, would any of you guys actually care?

[ZenOps]

If the courier was a guy, nope I wouldn't care until actual blood was spilt...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=163331162673210702

Old lady knows what to do, wisdom counts :lol:

[webdoctors]

why didnt the guy just call da police instead of beating on her....what if he killed her?

violence in such an insignificant scenario is ludicrous..

this story is just weird, ultra bizarre...

[thelefteyeguy]

why didnt the guy just call da police instead of beating on her....what if he killed her?

violence in such an insignificant scenario is ludicrous..

this story is just weird, ultra bizarre...


lol...have you ever called the police before...all I know if you tell them a girl threw a beef patty at me...they would definitely consider it low priority ;)


on a side note...it took me 1 hour just to return a wallet I found at first markham place...another hour to drive thru the freaking traffic to McCowen and Hwy10...what a waste of time getting the cop involved

[ttt]

If the courier was a guy, nope I wouldn't care until actual blood was spilt...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=163331162673210702

Old lady knows what to do, wisdom counts :lol:

i wonder what did the lady have in the bag.. must be something heavy in order to set off the air bag..

[The_Madz]

I just re-read this woman's account and she states how she hates littering.
Causing an issue over someone littering is a bit over the top for me.
If she was so worried about the litter, she should have just picked the burger up and put it in a nearby garbage can, rather than taunt someone who was obviously angry already.

how is he obviously angry already??

besides i think it's good fo rher to give it back to him, it's sickening when people just throw stuff out the car cause they can't take the time to find a garbage can themselves.


besides.. no matter what.. the guy has NO RIGHT what so ever to beat on a girl.. i don't care if she kneed him in the groin..

he is simply a prick.. and i hope that his girlfriend witnessed how nice he is by beating up on a girl.. i hope she realizes that she is probably going to be next... and gets away from him asap.

[65505201]

besides.. no matter what.. the guy has NO RIGHT what so ever to beat on a girl.. i don't care if she kneed him in the groin..

he is simply a prick.. and i hope that his girlfriend witnessed how nice he is by beating up on a girl.. i hope she realizes that she is probably going to be next... and gets away from him asap.

Hurray for gender equality!

[TRK9]

This is on the front page of today's Toronto Star. January 31, 2006

Online, there is a link from the main page to the article....

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1138661412479&call_pageid=968332188492&col=968793972154&t=TS_Home

EDIT: The Star doesn't have the pictures online that I can see, but the print edition does.

[Rehan]

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1138661412479&call_pageid=1109682110623&col=1109682108702

Edit: D'oh! Too slow. :razz:

[DJ_Peanuts22]

lol... yeah the Star was pretty slow as well.

[The_Madz]

Hurray for gender equality!


perhaps.. but beating on a woman, no matter what you think "justifies" it is just plain wrong.

[airodus]

perhaps.. but beating on a woman, no matter what you think "justifies" it is just plain wrong.

what if the woman is stabbing you with a knife?

[thelefteyeguy]

the Star article is quite funny...most of the article was depicting the Photographer was the evildoer and pretty much ignoring the main parties... :rolleyes: consider the fact the Star does this everyday...

[Yaowsers]

If a woman attacks me then I see no reason why I can't defend myself. We live in a world with equal rights. Step to me like a man and be dealt with like a man. It's not so much a gender issue. I would not step up to a 300lb lineman and start something with him.

I think it's ok to defend yourself no matter who it is that is trying to hurt you physically. Starting something is a whole new can of worms.

[gamovafan]

I would be scared too if I was just walking/cycling and then a bag out of nowhere came flying in my direction. Though I wouldn't scratch another person's property.

[ledorky]

His GF/Wife/Fiancee should dump him ASAP. With anger problems like this (he was yelling at her in the car originally), she's gonna be thrown around someday.

[masterhapposai]

They're both nuts.

If I was him, I'd step outside the car and ask her for her personal ID showing name/address and get her phone number, to pay for the damages and so that I can bring her to court.

If she didn't give it, I'd probably try to stand in her way, and ask someone to help block for a citizen's arrest while police may come. But, I'm guessing you can't make a citizen's arrest like that, just block the person.

Think about it, she is in the most wrong, she did it because she knows there's basically no way to stop her. Abuse of our weak law system. She could actually do the same thing to 100 cars in a row all in the same traffic line, and there's nothing anyone could do without getting charged themselves.

Chaos.

[Div]

I can't believe this made the frontpage of the Star today.

[masterhapposai]

I can't believe this made the frontpage of the Star today.

It's because of ignorance. At first glance it looks very bad and such an injustice towards the woman.

When infact it's just a simple case of some guy standing up for the rest of us. Doing something the police are incapable of during winter.

If it was summer, she'd get owned by bicycle police, since they'd be more available to capture someone like her.

[cnbc]

CBC picked up the story as well.
http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2006/01/31/toronto-fightphotos060131.html

[krash322]

It's because of ignorance. At first glance it looks very bad and such an injustice towards the woman.

When infact it's just a simple case of some guy standing up for the rest of us. Doing something the police are incapable of during winter.

If it was summer, she'd get owned by bicycle police, since they'd be more available to capture someone like her.
Standin up for the rest of us? What planet are u on? I'm nowhere near being an environmental guy, but just dumpin garbage out onto the street as you are driving is pretty ignorant. I wouldnt have picked it up and thrown it back into the car myself, but I would have at least said something to da guy cuz I aint pickin nuttin off the street. I dont know which neighbourhood u live in to accept this sort of behaviour. Why dont u let us know so that we could use your home as a dump site. And we wonder why our downtown streets are filthy. Sheesh....

[B40]

His GF/Wife/Fiancee should dump him ASAP. With anger problems like this (he was yelling at her in the car originally), she's gonna be thrown around someday.

Ahh ok so that was the case. He was just taking out his frustration on the courier...simple transference.

[thelefteyeguy]

all this can be solved if Toronto is enforcing the litter law...but the law is a joke and isn't enforced....the ad campaign last year is a joke.

[sandie]

Its in the GLOBE today. Its definitely gaining popularity

I hope the man suffers. He coulda just thrown the coffee at her and that would be fair. beating her down when shes on the ground is just plain wrong

[EchoAngel911]

I was reading the citynoise.org forums and I found this suppose comment from the driver, don't know if it's true

DRIVER: 1st Feb 2006 - 15:01 GMT

"hello my name is alex solski and i just wanna say that i had the reaction that i did simply because this ugly dyke threw the litter right in my girlfriends beautiful face.and i dont give a f**k what you people think if somebody did this to your girlfriend you wouldn't put up with it either.b-sides i didnt attack a lady i attacked a man wannabe,and her dyke of a girlfriend wich you can see in picture number 8 was the first to attack me,as you can see.dont miss judje me.i was just minding my own bussiness,and the streets of kensington are packed with **** anyway,so what difference does it make"

he shouldn't have litter!!

[The_Madz]

I was reading the citynoise.org forums and I found this suppose comment from the driver, don't know if it's true

DRIVER: 1st Feb 2006 - 15:01 GMT

"hello my name is alex solski and i just wanna say that i had the reaction that i did simply because this ugly dyke threw the litter right in my girlfriends beautiful face.and i dont give a f**k what you people think if somebody did this to your girlfriend you wouldn't put up with it either.b-sides i didnt attack a lady i attacked a man wannabe,and her dyke of a girlfriend wich you can see in picture number 8 was the first to attack me,as you can see.dont miss judje me.i was just minding my own bussiness,and the streets of kensington are packed with **** anyway,so what difference does it make"

he shouldn't have litter!!


i doubt it was him writing it, because if it is, then this proves his mental instability. he has some serious issues at that.

as i have said before, no reason to hit a woman, in worst case, restrain if you are being attacked. those pictures were posted from a third party in the order they appear so it's pretty clear that he is lying.
and wtf is with him calling her a dyke? and even then what does it matter.. he has no justification for what he did.

[The_Madz]

what if the woman is stabbing you with a knife?

well sure go with the big "what ifs" i'm saying it in context with what happend.. she obviously did not have a weapon or a knife.


restrain the person if you are being attacked by hand, don't punch or inflict damage in anyway.. and not just because it's wrong, but if cops show up and you dont have a cut but you gave the girl a black eye, you will not be treated well.

[R23]

i doubt he wrote that.
i blame him for littering, but ya if i saw someone litter i dont think i would throw it back in cuz its not like hes the only one who litters, mabey id put it on the hood of his van or something if i was really pissed.
why do people litter, i dont get it.

end of the day, keep your car doors locked, and don't litter.

[spm24]

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lol now fan art

[sfu_lifer]

They're both nuts.

If I was him, I'd step outside the car and ask her for her personal ID showing name/address and get her phone number, to pay for the damages and so that I can bring her to court.

If she didn't give it, I'd probably try to stand in her way, and ask someone to help block for a citizen's arrest while police may come. But, I'm guessing you can't make a citizen's arrest like that, just block the person.

Think about it, she is in the most wrong, she did it because she knows there's basically no way to stop her. Abuse of our weak law system. She could actually do the same thing to 100 cars in a row all in the same traffic line, and there's nothing anyone could do without getting charged themselves.

Chaos.
What damage? The only thing I give the woman bad marks on is stupidity for instigating the whole thing by throwing the trash back in his face. She took it personal at that point. She says she didn't key his car on purpose ( I believe her on this point ).
But he's obviously so far in the wrong on this one. He's mentally unstable. The fact he came back a second time for another beatdown proves this.

[aquariaguy]

What damage? The only thing I give the woman bad marks on is stupidity for instigating the whole thing by throwing the trash back in his face. She took it personal at that point. She says she didn't key his car on purpose ( I believe her on this point ).
But he's obviously so far in the wrong on this one. He's mentally unstable. The fact he came back a second time for another beatdown proves this.

Yup, the 2nd time he could've just came back and asked for her info. or called the police, cuz he did get a scratch on his car. But coming back just to beat her down...that's friggin anger problems.