The Real Reasons Why Iran is the Next Target

[xKagex]

The Iranians are about to commit an "offense" far greater than Saddam Hussein's conversion to the euro of Iraq’s oil exports in the fall of 2000. Numerous articles have revealed Pentagon planning for operations against Iran as early as 2005. While the publicly stated reasons will be over Iran's nuclear ambitions, there are unspoken macroeconomic drivers explaining the Real Reasons regarding the 2nd stage of petrodollar warfare - Iran's upcoming euro-based oil Bourse.

In 2005-2006, The Tehran government has a developed a plan to begin competing with New York's NYMEX and London's IPE with respect to international oil trades - using a euro-denominated international oil-trading mechanism. This means that without some form of US intervention, the euro is going to establish a firm foothold in the international oil trade. Given U.S. debt levels and the stated neoconservative project for U.S. global domination, Tehran's objective constitutes an obvious encroachment on U.S. dollar supremacy in the international oil market

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CLA410A.html

Just in case people didn't realize the real reason for war in Iraq (Saddam switching to the euro in his oil exports), it now looks like Iran is doing the same. Of course, with all the rhetoric and propaganda about 'weapons of mass destruction' (AGAIN??) it's hard to get real facts, and you're definately not going to get them from the mainstream media.

Why is nobody talking about the REAL reasons for war? ie: American Imperialism and 'global domination', at least economically?

comments?

[kingsley]

Look, we all know what the US is really doing but what can we realistically do about it?

[TheRide]

IMO most people don't talk about the real reason is because they're fed all this media propaganda and they just suck up what they're told rather than finding out the real reason behind the war, or 9/11, or whatever.

There's so much stuff that goes on behind the scenes, it's not even funny...

[kingsley]

IMO most people don't talk about the real reason is because they're fed all this media propaganda and they just suck up what they're told rather than finding out the real reason behind the war, or 9/11, or whatever.

There's so much stuff that goes on behind the scenes, it's not even funny...

That's so wrong. Who here on this board takes the US "War on Terror" at face value?

[TheRide]

That's so wrong. Who here on this board takes the US "War on Terror" at face value?

trust me, people do...maybe not on RFD but there are people who take it face value, gimme a break...

[xKagex]

I wish I could understand the real reasons for 9/11. From what I can see, it's totally unrelated to Iraq/Iran, although the US government has definately tried to connect the two.

I've read a ton of conspiracy theories, but so far none of them answer all my questions. I don't believe it was strictly a terrorist attack either, because there are too many ties back to the CIA and Pentagon.

Either way, I digress :)

[Ojam]

That's so wrong. Who here on this board takes the US "War on Terror" at face value?

Lots, even on this very forum.

[pd0x]

hah...id like them to try Iran...if they thought Iraq is / was tough...Iran would be hell on earth redux.

[sMoothEric]

If the gov't of Iran is run by religious right-wing hooligans, akin to mafiaoso as posted in another thread, wouldn't the people support intervention?

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=245481&page=3&pp=15&highlight=iran

Perhaps some remember things weren't so bad under the Shaw, who was tight with the USA.

I'm also pretty sure the US could take over Iran pretty quickly...They would be faced with occupation as in Iraq, but the actual war would be quick.
Anything military is probable already targeted using satellite, waiting for "clean-up". The only thing left after a few weeks would be individual "freedom fighters" as in Iraq.



-=sMoothEric=-

[CheapScotsman]

Look, we all know what the US is really doing but what can we realistically do about it?

Which is the best comment written in this and about 2 bazillion of the other "US is the bogeyman" threads on this board.

Almost squat ... join the appropriate groups or make a difference by volunteering in helping people in your community in the areas that interested or affect you

[doc_ock]

By ERIC MARGOLIS

NEW YORK — The U.S. and Israel are preparing to attack Iran’s nuclear infrastructure, according to U.S. and European intelligence sources.

The U.S. and EU are exerting maximum diplomatic and psychological pressure on Iran to prevent it from enriching uranium in spite of its legal right to do so. Tehran remains defiant, but may yet compromise by shipping uranium to Russia for enrichment.

President George Bush claims Iran’s limited but growing nuclear program poses “a grave threat to the security of the world.” What he really means is that Iran could one day challenge Israel’s Mideast nuclear monopoly.

Today, Iran’s handful of inaccurate, 1,200-km range Shahab-3 missiles can barely reach Israel, and have only non-nuclear conventional warheads. Many of Israel’s estimated 200 nuclear warheads are targeted on Iran, including new, nuclear-armed, U.S.-supplied Tomahawk land-attack missiles on its Dolphin-class submarines in the Indian Ocean.

U.S. and British special forces, and U.S. drones, have been probing Iran’s defences for a year. A major land invasion is unlikely, however, since they are overstretched in Iraq.

The U.S. and Israel would likely use air and missile strikes to destroy Iran’s nuclear industry and cripple its military. Much of Iran’s critical nuclear facilities are far underground or dug into hillsides.

Israel’s hawkish defense minister, Shaul Mofaz, while calling for diplomacy, warned last weekend his nation “would not tolerate” a nuclear-armed Iran. Israel’s Mossad has been claiming this March is the absolute deadline to stop Iran’s nuclear program. Israel’s many supporters in the U.S. Congress are loudly calling for war against Iran.

German intelligence leaks claim last December the CIA briefed Turkey, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and Jordan about U.S. plans to attack Iran. Israeli warplanes would overfly Jordan and Iraq to strike central and southern Iran. U.S. air and missile strikes could come from Diego Garcia, Qatar, Oman, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Central Asia, and from carriers, surface warships and subs in the Indian Ocean.

Iran’s Persian Gulf nuclear reactor complex would be struck. Enrichment and heavy water plants and uranium mines are primary targets. Second priority: Missile-assembly plants, air and naval bases, power stations, etc.

Radiation risks

Iran vows to retaliate against an Israeli attack by firing conventionally armed missiles against Israel’s nuclear weapons complex at Dimona. Iran’s dilapidated air force is barely airworthy, never mind a threat to Israel. Even an improbable missile hit would probably do little damage. Still, Europeans are fretting over the risk of radiation releases from Dimona and, more likely, Iran’s bombed nuclear plants.

The Iranians could retaliate more effectively by attacking U.S. forces in neighbouring Iraq and getting their Iraqi Shia allies to join in. Iran could mine the Gulf, interrupt oil exports, launch raids against U.S. bases in the Gulf, Afghanistan and Central Asia. Iran is the world’s fourth-largest oil exporter; any shutoff would inflict enormous disruption on the West.

Mass air and missile attacks would badly damage Iran’s nuclear capability, but probably not put it out of business for good, as did Israel’s 1981 attack on Iraq’s sole reactor.

The beleaguered Bush administration may try to escape mounting woes by launching an air campaign against Iran to whip up war fever among Americans before mid-term elections, boosting Republican fortunes. But this is dangerous business because, like the supposed jolly little colonial adventure in Iraq, a war with Iran could go terribly wrong.
Here's the link. (http://www.torontosun.com/News/Columnists/Margolis_Eric/2006/01/28/1416265.html)

[xKagex]

Here's the link. (http://www.torontosun.com/News/Columnists/Margolis_Eric/2006/01/28/1416265.html)

So I guess you're buying the 'weapons of mass destruction' argument, huh?

[doc_ock]

So I guess you're buying the 'weapons of mass destruction' argument, huh?

No. It's probably more to do with Israeli insecurity. What he really means is that Iran could one day challenge Israel’s Mideast nuclear monopoly.

Israel’s many supporters in the U.S. Congress are loudly calling for war against Iran.

[hagbard]

No. It's probably more to do with Israeli insecurity.

That's what Afghanistan, Iraq, and soon to be Iran and Syrian invasions are mostly about. Oil and preventing a move away from the dollar are bonuses.

[masterhapposai]

Canada's West which also coincidentally supports the conservatives mainly, and wanted to break away to the U.S are very ignorant when it comes to politics.

Try talking about Bush in B.C and you're likely to get into a fight.

That's what I've found, and there's many people like this off the forum. The only reason you may not find them online is because people online (eventhough this may come as a shock considering what they post!) are more intelligent and more likely to question authority.

Search engines and independant web pages are definitely about freedom of thought and written speech.

[JoKeRr]

watch Loose Change 2nd edition, for 911 related question marks. It's so far the best and most convincing 911 documentary out there.

The 911 comission report is somewhat horsecrap.

[TheRide]

^^ That loose change doc is great. A MUST watch.

HERE IT IS...http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2023320890224991194

[xKagex]

That documentary explains a lot, but not everything. For example, if they wanted to use it as a war against Iraq, why use Saudis as terrorists.. it just doesn't make any sense.

Either way, 9/11 aside, I still think Iraq/Iran are about the move away from the US dollar, which would absolutely destroy the US economy and dollar. Israel is just being used along with the 'war on terror' to justify it to the people (imo).

Canada's West which also coincidentally supports the conservatives mainly, and wanted to break away to the U.S are very ignorant when it comes to politics.

Try talking about Bush in B.C and you're likely to get into a fight.
As for people in BC being pro-Bush, it's just not true. The Conservatives actually lost seats in BC this election, in favour of the NDP. BC is naturally not conservative at all, especially when compared to much of Ontario's rural areas. In fact, both coast-lines of Canada and the US (pacific and atlantic) are generally much more democrat/liberal when compared to non-coastal states and provinces.

[d_jedi]

OK.. let's follow this line of thought. If it's really about switching from the American dollar to the Euro.. why would European countries and the EU side with the US against Iran's nuclear (weapons) program?

[R23]

great video, thanks for the link.
the only thing i would have liked to see was more info about the actual structure of the wtc, i mean just cuz those other buildings lasted that long doesnt mean that one did. although that letter from the steel maker did raise some eyebrows.

i never heard about that euro conversion reason, but i guess it does make some sense, but does it make enough sense to throw americans in there for many years?
but then if anyone has read 1984 by orwell, it makes some sense...

one more big question is what happened to the real planes? were they 'hijacked' and taken to an afb where they were taken apart and shipped out?

and another question is the hijackers he said are still alive, and living normally in saudi arabia, who were these guys and can someone confirm theyre living normally?

does anyone have an educated theory on why they ran this massive plot?
did they need this to move on iraq, or was it just the first phase on tightening control and achieving a nwo?

[poedua]

watch Loose Change 2nd edition, for 911 related question marks. It's so far the best and most convincing 911 documentary out there.

The 911 comission report is somewhat horsecrap.

So is the stuff being spewed out by Alex Jones ....as it is with most conspiracy theories....horsecrap.

[Tristan910]

If you believe that Iran's move to adopt the Euro will do significant damage to the US economy, wouldn't it also harm Canada's as well? Imagine if the value of the US dollar fell below $1 CAD. Our manufacturing sectors would be in serious trouble.

[hagbard]

Yeah, we're screwed too. Buy Euros or gold.

[mattpiloto]

Canada's West which also coincidentally supports the conservatives mainly, and wanted to break away to the U.S are very ignorant when it comes to politics.

Try talking about Bush in B.C and you're likely to get into a fight.

That's what I've found, and there's many people like this off the forum. The only reason you may not find them online is because people online (eventhough this may come as a shock considering what they post!) are more intelligent and more likely to question authority.

Search engines and independant web pages are definitely about freedom of thought and written speech.

I don't know. Maybe it's just cause I'm in the "Liberal stronghold" of Edmonton, but I haven't met too many bush fans around here. If nothing else, you gotta admit he's a bit of a clutz, and English seems to be his second language :lol:

[anandwww]

I heard Iran was the actual target 3 yrs back..but on the drawing board a foolish commander wrote iraq instead of iran by mistake!!

[hagbard]

I heard Iran was the actual target 3 yrs back..but on the drawing board a foolish commander wrote iraq instead of iran by mistake!!

No. Bush made it clear the day he stepped into office he was going after Iraq any way he could. This report, producted for the Israeli gov't in 1993 by many of the people currently comprising the Bush Administration, lists Iran and Syria as also being targets:

http://www.israeleconomy.org/strat1.htm

[Boss_Scorpius]

OK.. let's follow this line of thought. If it's really about switching from the American dollar to the Euro.. why would European countries and the EU side with the US against Iran's nuclear (weapons) program?

You really believe that european countries are going to impose sanctions against Iran. They have for years dealt with Iranian government, openly and secretly. Even if they do openly say they will impose sanctions they will still trade behind the closed doors.