Official Day 8: Dell's 9 Business Day of Deals - HOT! 24" LCD $899, 30" $1599!

[Derek]

It's only January but that isn't stoppping Dell. Starting January 10th, they're holding their Dell's 9 Business Days of Deals (http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/stat?id=CAqD7bLWUPI&offerid=55419.10000067&type=3) on software and peripherials. Every business day, probably around 8:00 AM EST, they'll have a new deal with big savings on on products like flat panel monitors, external storage devices, memory products, Dell servers, and more for one day only. Some items may be limited quantity so be sure to check it out early.

Second last day... saved the best for second last? We'll see in the morning... earlier and earlier in the morning it seems...

Day 8 Deals (http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/stat?id=CAqD7bLWUPI&offerid=55419.10000067&type=3)
- Dell W2306C 23" Widescreen LCD TV - $699
- Dell W2606C 26" Widescreen LCD TV - $947
- Dell UltraSharp 2405FPW 24-inch Wide Aspect Flat Panel LCD Monitor with Height Adjustable Stand - $899
- Dell UltraSharp Widescreen 3007WFP - $1599 (HOT!)

Amazing deal on the 30" LCD considering it's a brand new product and it's still selling for $2199 US at Dell.com! You can add a nVidia 256MB GeForce 7800GTX PCI-E Graphics Card for only $449 to the 30" LCD during customization which is also a great deal!

Click Here for the Deals (http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/stat?id=CAqD7bLWUPI&offerid=55419.10000067&type=3)

[seshwan]

please be the 2405fpw

[eelfliw]

Quad Xeon servers for $999! :cheesygri

[gprime]

didnt they have the 2005 without the 2405? that was strange. maybe that means they'll have the 2405 + 3007 :D

[kingsley]

didnt they have the 2005 without the 2405? that was strange. maybe that means they'll have the 2405 + 3007 :D

hmmmm....maybe!

3007 for $1599

[HowEver]

Not their best round, but still extracting $$ from us.

[chowda]

printers

[weesur]

may be inspiron 630m for $800

[corolla]

Remember seeing an entry-level rack server for $400 once. Hope to see it again. :)

[rookie]

Projectors PLZ!

[Montague]

Montague prays for this item (and have it be 50%)

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/ProductDetail.aspx?sku=310-4168&c=ca&l=en&cs=CADHS1&category_id=5631&first=true&page=productlisting.aspx

($12.50 for a USB Cable - and that is the 50% off price! :lol: )

[Siefer999]

Montague prays for this item (and have it be 50%)

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/ProductDetail.aspx?sku=310-4168&c=ca&l=en&cs=CADHS1&category_id=5631&first=true&page=productlisting.aspx

($12.50 for a USB Cable - and that is the 50% off price! :lol: )
I will sell you one for $5.00 NO TAX!!! thats 83% off! :lol: :!: :!: :!:

[s2k]

It's up.

Everyone should be happy, both the 24" and 30" LCD on for $400 off.

[Curiosity]

http://img.dell.com/images/ca/segments/bsd/banners/7_days_title.jpg

[DVST8]

argh I want that 30"! it's a want not a need. :cheesygri

[ds-]

argh I want that 30"! it's a want not a need. :cheesygri

I need it :cheesygri

[mahjongmaniac]

argh I want that 30"! it's a want not a need. :cheesygri

lol... it's a "want" for every 1 of us on here... =D

[deadlineDan]

lol... it's a "want" for every 1 of us on here... =D

oh you got that right.. as Homer Simpson might say: "aaarrrghrghghrhgrhgh..."

[hagbard]

What wait, they're LCD displays, including the 30" for $1599. The 2405 for $899. And some TVS. Hot deal on that 30", but only one year warranty.

[squeezee]

Well i ordered the damn 30" lcd.. i was considering getting an 32" lcd tv for around the same price since i already have the 24" dell. But at this price i had to jump on it, not quite as good as the 30% off error people were hoping to get in on the other day.. but still a good deal considering its brand new.

Also, theres a bonus deal if yer ordering the 30" lcd. The 256MB 7800GTX is $449 if you add it to your order in the cusomization stage. I already have a dual 7800GTX setup.. but that is a good price!

*Also it looks like just about everything you can add with the dell in the customize section is discounted somewhat, both for the 30" and the lcd tvs. wall mounts/dvd players/cables/powerbars/speakers

[chienpourri]

Wow! I am really surprised the 30'' is already on sale!

I already bought the 24'' a while ago (when it was 989$), plus I don't have the money now to upgrade to a dual link DVI video card.

[computerguy]

OMG great deals today!!

Can't decide on which one to get... the 23" lcd tv or 2405 for my main pc monitor?!?
I think the 2405 might be a better choice, but I also want to hook up my consoles to the one I get..... decisions decisions :confused:

What do you guys think?

[mahjongmaniac]

OMG great deals today!!

Can't decide on which one to get... the 23" lcd tv or 2405 for my main pc monitor?!?
I think the 2405 might be a better choice, but I also want to hook up my consoles to the one I get..... decisions decisions :confused:

What do you guys think?

get both if u can afford it. :razz:

[kcjchan]

OMG great deals today!!

Can't decide on which one to get... the 23" lcd tv or 2405 for my main pc monitor?!?
I think the 2405 might be a better choice, but I also want to hook up my consoles to the one I get..... decisions decisions :confused:

What do you guys think?

Just get an external video box to hookup everything to the 2405.

[computerguy]

Just get an external video box to hookup everything to the 2405.
What's that and what exactly does it do?
gotta a link?

[swales]

OMG great deals today!!

Can't decide on which one to get... the 23" lcd tv or 2405 for my main pc monitor?!?
I think the 2405 might be a better choice, but I also want to hook up my consoles to the one I get..... decisions decisions :confused:

What do you guys think?

Can't you use the s-video or better yet the component video inputs to hook up your consoles to the 2405?

[SLee]

OMG great deals today!!

Can't decide on which one to get... the 23" lcd tv or 2405 for my main pc monitor?!?
I think the 2405 might be a better choice, but I also want to hook up my consoles to the one I get..... decisions decisions :confused:

What do you guys think?
The 2405FPW includes a composite, S-Video and component input.

[computerguy]

But is the quality good when playing a console on a computer lcd?
and what about the audio... how would you get sound on the 2405 from the console :confused:

[Homer88]

But is the quality good when playing a console on a computer lcd?
and what about the audio... how would you get sound on the 2405 from the console :confused:
Get an adapter, white/red RCA female to stereo 3.5mm female, and plug in your speakers male plug into it. The quality of the video depends on the source, PS2, XBOX, GC will look like crap. But XBOX360 will look good

[swales]

But is the quality good when playing a console on a computer lcd?
and what about the audio... how would you get sound on the 2405 from the console :confused:


For sound you could get the optional sound bar or just hook up your consoles to a Home Theater receiver so you get 5.1 surround sound :cheesygri

[Chadburn]

But is the quality good when playing a console on a computer lcd?
and what about the audio... how would you get sound on the 2405 from the console :confused:

For immersive gaming you don't want the tv speaker sound anyway. They're only good for watching the news and the weather channel. :) Just connect your audio out from your console to an amp and speakers, preferably a surround system while your video feeds the lcd panel.

[swales]

Just bought the 2405FPW :cheesygri

[xarekusu]

Anyonw knows with the dell 30 inch LCD
What is the max resolution I can get with my 6600gt which doesn't have dual link DVI.

[squeezee]

Anyonw knows with the dell 30 inch LCD
What is the max resolution I can get with my 6600gt which doesn't have dual link DVI.

I'm pretty sure the 3007WFP only supports two full-screen display modes, which are 1280x800 and 2560x1600. Other modes might be supported but only with 1:1 mapping (not stretched, in the middle of the screen).

If you can't run this display at native resolution its really not worth buying.

[s1301950]

From what i've heard and read, you need a card that have dual DVI to run this monitor.


I'm pretty sure the 3007WFP only supports two full-screen display modes, which are 1280x800 and 2560x1600. Other modes might be supported but only with 1:1 mapping (not stretched, in the middle of the screen).

If you can't run this display at native resolution its really not worth buying.

[s1301950]

Anyone knows if you could apply EPP on the deal?

[rookie]

Anyone knows if you could apply EPP on the deal?

I would like to know as well!

[warpdrive]

Wow....nice deal on the 30".....too bad my system isn't up to snuff or else I'd be all over it.

[g_goo_goo]

Dell 30" $1299 by summer time...

[KitKatDark]

Can anyone confirm that the Sapphire GTO2 has a dual-link DVI connector?

[dragonkaoboy]

Dell 3007 FWP is just too big. :(

Note: will not let you run SLI. Not for gamers. No game out there runs at 2560 x 1600 pixels natively.

[gprime]

didnt they have the 2005 without the 2405? that was strange. maybe that means they'll have the 2405 + 3007 :D

Who called it! :)

[ieatkittens]

didnt they have the 2005 without the 2405? that was strange. maybe that means they'll have the 2405 + 3007 :D

I did! :confused:

[fitbrit]

Great price on the 30". I almost went for it, but then I thought that getting two of the 24" for a couple of hundred more is better value:

1) More screen real estate over all- greater desktop resolution.
2) Dual screen flexibility, for those who like to keep apps separate etc.
3) No need for a dual DVI card.
4) Can run games at a playable resolution in one monitor only if you wish.
5) You get TWO screens, so if you ever need to move one to another computer temporarily, you can.
6) Pivot!
7) You get TWO screens, so if you ever need cash in a hurry, you can sell one and still have a gorgeous screen.

[Out Of Stock]

Oh my.... that's tempting....

[uman]

From what i've heard and read, you need a card that have dual DVI to run this monitor.
Why does it need the dual DVI?

[df329]

Why does it need the dual DVI?

This monitor DOES require dual Dvi to run at native resolution.

The resolution is too high for one single DVI port to support, so without DVI you can't run at native resolution.

[ainsane]

This monitor DOES require dual Dvi to run at native resolution.

The resolution is too high for one single DVI port to support, so without DVI you can't run at native resolution.

The monitor doesnt use 2 DVI connectors... it uses a single DVI-D Dual Link connector.

[JaYBirD]

Just ordered my second 2405FPW. Any video card recomendations to run both of this? (I dont need to be able to game il full 1920x1200).

[SaraLee]

Dual DVI. So one 7800GTX should be enough to run this then?

[ainsane]

Just ordered my second 2405FPW. Any video card recomendations to run both of this? (I dont need to be able to game il full 1920x1200).

If you can afford 2 of these monitors, you don't actually need a suggestion on the video card. Just buy the most expensive one. You're only posting this to show off and using the video card recommendation as an excuse.

[noname]

Dual DVI. So one 7800GTX should be enough to run this then?


the 3007 needs DUAL-LINK DVI not DUAL DVI. two different things. but yes, a 7800gtx has dual-link dvi

[volan]

I'm a bit of a dummy about monitors. Can anyone tell me why the 24" LCD monitor is so much more expensive than the 23" TV? I would think that theTV would be closer in price or even more expensive than the monitor.

[ainsane]

I'm a bit of a dummy about monitors. Can anyone tell me why the 24" LCD monitor is so much more expensive than the 23" TV? I would think that theTV would be closer in price or even more expensive than the monitor.

one word: resolution

[noname]

I'm a bit of a dummy about monitors. Can anyone tell me why the 24" LCD monitor is so much more expensive than the 23" TV? I would think that theTV would be closer in price or even more expensive than the monitor.

pixel density. The 23" lcd tv will likey have 1366x768 resolution. a 24" monitor is 1920*1200 i believe

[Thimble]

Great price on the 30". I almost went for it, but then I thought that getting two of the 24" for a couple of hundred more is better value:

1) More screen real estate over all- greater desktop resolution.
2) Dual screen flexibility, for those who like to keep apps separate etc.
3) No need for a dual DVI card.
4) Can run games at a playable resolution in one monitor only if you wish.
5) You get TWO screens, so if you ever need to move one to another computer temporarily, you can.
6) Pivot!
7) You get TWO screens, so if you ever need cash in a hurry, you can sell one and still have a gorgeous screen.

i'd rather watch movies/tv on the 30". if you've already got a 30" or bigger tv, then this point is moo.

[ainsane]

the 3007 needs DUAL-LINK DVI not DUAL DVI. two different things. but yes, a 7800gtx has dual-link dvi

NO, not all 7800GTX boards have a DVI dual link conector. Most have 2 single DVI-I connectors. Don't go on NCIX and buy just any 7800GTX.

[squeezee]

I'm a bit of a dummy about monitors. Can anyone tell me why the 24" LCD monitor is so much more expensive than the 23" TV? I would think that theTV would be closer in price or even more expensive than the monitor.

The 24" lcd has a resolution of 1920x1200(2,304,000pixels) where the 23" lcd tv has a resolution of 1366x768(1,049,088 pixels). That is a difference of 1,254,912 pixels or over double the resolution. Its the higher resolution lcd panel that makes up most of the cost.

[charliebrown]

I'm a bit of a dummy about monitors. Can anyone tell me why the 24" LCD monitor is so much more expensive than the 23" TV? I would think that theTV would be closer in price or even more expensive than the monitor.

I thought the same way before :)

At the basic level, the two serve different purposes
The W2306 is a TV first, and can be used as a monitor at 1366 x 768 pixels (Total = 1049088); ok response times, ok contrast ratios

The monitor is for ppl who use their PCs extensively and have good enough graphics cards coz the monitor has a resolution of 1920x1200 (Total = 2304000; or 120% more than the TV)

And the monitor has better response times (12 ms vs 16) and contrast ratio (1000:1 vs 550:1)

[hagbard]

Odd, none of the now first page was showing this morning at 3:40am, hense the reason why I posted the deal. Now, this morning, it is.

[volan]

Thanks. So then is the 24" monitor a good deal?

[squeezee]

NO, not all 7800GTX boards have a DVI dual link conector. Most have 2 single DVI-I connectors. Don't go on NCIX and buy just any 7800GTX.

Best thing to do is check the manufacturers website if in doubt.

No, not ALL 7800GTX cards have a dual-link dvi connector.
Most have ONE Dual Link DVI-I connector and one Single link DVI-I connector. Some will have two Single-Link DVI-I connectors. I haven't seen any that have either a DVI-D or DVI-A connector on them sofar (altho they may exist).

(DVI-I carries both analog and digital, DVI-D is digital Only, DVI-A is analog only)

[KurwaMasz]

is the 30" a good deal or what? like i mean shoudl i wait for a sale on those no name lcd panels that are 32" and are like 900 bux tops? why should i pay 600 dollars more?

[s1301950]

EPP? anyone EPP? that's an extra 5% off a 1k item. 50$ is quite a difference.

And anyone got any ETA if they order today?

Oh about the buy now or buy for less but later question - the answer is always buy it now, if you want it now.

[Warrior101]

is the 30" a good deal or what? like i mean shoudl i wait for a sale on those no name lcd panels that are 32" and are like 900 bux tops? why should i pay 600 dollars more?

Umm those are LCD Tvs..
For 1599 the 30" monitor is a crazy deal!
I already have the 2405FPW but I wish I had 30" instead!

30" would be so much cooler for games ;)

[volan]

EPP? anyone EPP? that's an extra 5% off a 1k item. 50$ is quite a difference.

And anyone got any ETA if they order today?

Oh about the buy now or buy for less but later question - the answer is always buy it now, if you want it now.

I just checked with Dell EPP. The person I spoke with told me that EPP does not apply to the 9 days deal.

[xwar]

Dell 30" $1299 by summer time...

Agreed ... I'm gonna have to wait until I build my new rig when Vista comes out.

[charliebrown]

I just checked with Dell EPP. The person I spoke with told me that EPP does not apply to the 9 days deal.

which would make sense because if i used my friend's COMPANY's EPP, DELL might want to deliver it to that company instead of my "small business" :lol:

[sparrow_69]

Volan: that CSR was wrong. I had my 5% EPP discount added back in sept. when I purchased the 2405 during their days of deals. You need to call an EPP rep, not just any sales rep. I believe you can ask any normal sales rep what number to call to speak to an EPP rep.

[s1301950]

Couple of things i don't like about the 30", that i got from 2405:

1. Lower contrast (700:1 instead of 1000:1): that attributes to sharper image.
2. Cannot swirvel (i guess it's a physical limitation): with swirvel, you can view one and a half page of a doc at a time.
3. Brightness: 400 instead of 500 (on paper only, hardly unnoticeable)

But hey, it's bigger... and... yea, just bigger. I got a 7800 GTX so i wouldn't have a problem, but my friend who got a X800, have a little performance problem. It could very well be a driver problem.

Kenneth

Umm those are LCD Tvs..
For 1599 the 30" monitor is a crazy deal!
I already have the 2405FPW but I wish I had 30" instead!

30" would be so much cooler for games ;)

[najibs]

Can this thing display 1080p, considering it's resolution?

I've got my Rogers HD box I could hook up via component..is that possible, and would I see 720p, or 1080p?

[transnote]

I just checked with Dell EPP. The person I spoke with told me that EPP does not apply to the 9 days deal.

I used my EPP code on the purchase of the 24" last 12-days deal. The rep is incorrect.... the agreement with Dell is that it applies to the lowest price advrtised or offered. For example say it's a monitor for $899. Try and bargain the rep down to $850.... once you have an agreed upon price THEN provide the EPP code and ask for the %5 discount. In talking with Dell reps that it what they have suggested and it works.

[volan]

Volan: that CSR was wrong. I had my 5% EPP discount added back in sept. when I purchased the 2405 during their days of deals. You need to call an EPP rep, not just any sales rep. I believe you can ask any normal sales rep what number to call to speak to an EPP rep.

Hi, thanks for the info, but I did talk to an EPP rep. In fact I spoke with 2 different EPP reps and both told me I couldn't use my discount.

I've been speaking with people around my office too and it seems that it's up to the CSR whether he wants to give it to you or not. There are folks around my office that got an EPP discount after arguing with the CSR for a while...I'm not one to argue too much.

[ainsane]

Can this thing display 1080p, considering it's resolution?

I've got my Rogers HD box I could hook up via component..is that possible, and would I see 720p, or 1080p?

First off, does Rogers even have any 1080P stations? I don't think any programming is in 1080P yet. Second, this monitor's only interface is the dual-link DVI-D connector... so you wouldn't be able to even connect it to your Rogers box. I also doubt, but am not sure, that it can accept and decode any HD signals... so using a DVI-HDMI connector probably wouldn't help. I'm not sure about this though.

[Hugh]

Well i ordered the damn 30" lcd..
i already have the 24" dell.
Also, theres a bonus deal if yer ordering the 30" lcd. The 256MB 7800GTX is $449 if you add it to your order in the cusomization stage. I already have a dual 7800GTX setup.. but that is a good price!

*Also it looks like just about everything you can add with the dell in the customize section is discounted somewhat, both for the 30" and the lcd tvs. wall mounts/dvd players/cables/powerbars/speakers
Interesting. I too have the 24" and have ordered the 30". I actually ordered it yesterday, but at this same price (another thread suggested how).

The video card is an issue. I'll tell you what I'm thinking of, in the hope that you guys will make useful suggestions.

I'm leaning towards a card based on the ATI x1600XT (~$200). It supports dual link at the required resolution. Unfortunately, it cannot support any other monitor at the same time, even though it has a second DVI connector. Apparently both RAMDACs are allocated when it is supporting a dual link monitor. I only found this out by phoning ATI's pre-sales support. If seems hard to find much out about dual link DVI on the web.

That leaves me wondering where I plug in my 24". My computer has only one PCIe slot. The on-board video is VGA-only, not DVI (it does actually manage to drie the 24" at full resolution, but I'm not sure that the picture is as good). I don't even know if the on-board controller is disabled when a PCIe video card is installed (ATI said that that depends on the BIOS).

The cheapest suitable nVidia cards seem to start at twice as much money. Only the 7800 seems to support dual link at the wqvga resolution. Can the nVidia-based cards support dual link DVI and another DVI at the same time?

I don't need 3d performance (I use Linux and try to stick to open source drivers; 3d stuff for modern ATI and nVidia is kept as trade secrets). Probably an x1300 card would be good enough for me, but they seem scarce on the ground and not that much cheaper than the x1600.

I should mention that I've ignored the "workstation" cards (ATI's FireGL; nVidia's Quadro). These seem aimed at deeper pockets. The FireGL card offered as an add-on on the 30" monitor page doesn't even seem to support the required resolution (it could just be that Dell's "product details" are incomplete).

[guest3721]

But hey, it's bigger... and... yea, just bigger. I got a 7800 GTX so i wouldn't have a problem, but my friend who got a X800, have a little performance problem. It could very well be a driver problem.

Kenneth

I have the X800 Pro and just called ATI, unfortunately that card does not support DVI-D, the rep suggested a 850XT Platinum or X1800 XT or XL, unforunately I don't have the budget to upgrade :(

My brother has a PowerColor X800XL which does have dual DVI out, now I gotta find out if its pci-express to fit my board!

[SaraLee]

Best thing to do is check the manufacturers website if in doubt.

No, not ALL 7800GTX cards have a dual-link dvi connector.
Most have ONE Dual Link DVI-I connector and one Single link DVI-I connector. Some will have two Single-Link DVI-I connectors. I haven't seen any that have either a DVI-D or DVI-A connector on them sofar (altho they may exist).

(DVI-I carries both analog and digital, DVI-D is digital Only, DVI-A is analog only)

You are absolutely right. Most 7800GTX don't have DVI-D. They have Daul DVI-I connectors. So beware when you decide to make the purchase on the 30". Read the specs really carefully before you do so. I know I am out of luck cos I have a Leadtek 7800GTX only!

[ainsane]

That leaves me wondering where I plug in my 24". My computer has only one PCIe slot. The on-board video is VGA-only, not DVI (it does actually manage to drie the 24" at full resolution, but I'm not sure that the picture is as good). I don't even know if the on-board controller is disabled when a PCIe video card is installed (ATI said that that depends on the BIOS).

Why don't you just get a PCI graphics card that has a DVI connector to run the 24" on?

[ainsane]

You are absolutely right. Most 7800GTX don't have DVI-D. They have Daul DVI-I connectors. So beware when you decide to make the purchase on the 30". Read the specs really carefully before you do so. I know I am out of luck cos I have a Leadtek 7800GTX only!

DVI-D actually refers to DVI Digital, which can come in either single link or dual link.

[gprime]

Finally decided not to get the 3007. A 2405 and 2005 is good enough for me.

It was tempting though :D Don't think I would have had anywhere to put it, though.

[guest3721]

You are absolutely right. Most 7800GTX don't have DVI-D. They have Daul DVI-I connectors. So beware when you decide to make the purchase on the 30". Read the specs really carefully before you do so. I know I am out of luck cos I have a Leadtek 7800GTX only!

This is getting rather complicated. So DVI-D is not the same as Dual DVI outputs? In this case, I may as well scrap this idea unless I want to buy their Nvidia 7800GTX Pci-e card for $450. Too much money for now :(

[ENG101]

Ordered 5 2405 :)

[gprime]

Ordered 5 2405 :)

O_O

that will be quite a setup.

[ainsane]

This is getting rather complicated. So DVI-D is not the same as Dual DVI outputs? In this case, I may as well scrap this idea unless I want to buy their Nvidia 7800GTX Pci-e card for $450. Too much money for now :(

There are different types of DVI connectors: DVI-I (analog & digital), DVI-D (digital), and DVI-A (analog). DVI-I and DVI-D can both come in dual-link. Most high-end cards come with 2 DVI-I connectors on the board... but what this monitor needs is a card with a single dual-link DVI-D connector.

Here's an image to clarify this since everyone seems confused:

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/qa/images/DVI-video-connectors-diagram.jpg

[ENG101]

For work. :razz:

Although, 5 at home sounds goood too. I would have to sell my wife though.

[7jai]

sigh, it comes up to 1000 bucks for the 24" widescreen.. should i buy it?

[ainsane]

I would have to sell my wife though.

I'll give you $500 ;)

[Hugh]

I have the X800 Pro and just called ATI, unfortunately that card does not support DVI-D, the rep suggested a 850XT Platinum or X1800 XT or XL, unforunately I don't have the budget to upgrade :(
I'm pretty sure that the X800 Pro supports DVI-D and that it does not support dual link DVI.

My brother has a PowerColor X800XL which does have dual DVI out, now I gotta find out if its pci-express to fit my board!
"Dual dvi out", meaning two DVI connectors, is not at all the same thing as dual link DVI, meaning one connector with two sets of digital signals. Burried in this Wikipedia article is some information on dual link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Visual_Interface

As far as I know, the only non-workstation ATI cards that are suitable for the 30" are x1* (i.e. x1300, x1600, and x1800) and the oddball 9600 PC and Mac Edition (name is approximate).

The 30" Apple monitor has had the same requirements for a couple of years, so the folks with that monitor have been down this road before. Most video cards don't work in both a Mac and a PC; I don't know why. Here's an nVidia article about supporting the Apple 30" on Macs and PCs http://nvidia.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/nvidia.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=59&p_created=1097092529&p_sid=UpjwTPXh&p_lva=&%20p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PS ZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MTU5JnBfcHJvZHM9MCZwX2NhdHM9MCZwX3B2 PSZwX2N2PSZwX3NlYXJjaF90eXBlPWFuc3dlcnMuc2VhcmNoX2 ZubCZwX3BhZ2U9MSZwX3NlYXJjaF90ZXh0PUR1YWwgRFZJIFN1 cHBvcnQ*&p_li=&p_topview=1

[ainsane]

Haha I wonder how many people are going to be complaining that their brand new 30" can't display full resolution with their dual DVI-I graphics cards! It seems to have been mentioned several times in this thread already by me and a few others that DVI-D dual-link is NOT the same as dual DVI-I but no one seems to get it. :lol: I'm looking forward to some threads in the coming weeks where their only option is to shell out another $500 for a video card!

[squeezee]

There are different types of DVI connectors: DVI-I (analog & digital), DVI-D (digital), and DVI-A (analog). DVI-I and DVI-D can both come in dual-link. Most high-end cards come with 2 DVI-I connectors on the board... but what this monitor needs is a card with a single dual-link DVI-D connector.

Here's an image to clarify this since everyone seems confused:

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/qa/images/DVI-video-connectors-diagram.jpg

Also one little note to that, The connector on the back of your card will likely look the SAME nomatter if its single or dual link. You need to read the manual/spec sheet or check with your cards manufacturer to be sure.

[JaYBirD]

If you can afford 2 of these monitors, you don't actually need a suggestion on the video card. Just buy the most expensive one. You're only posting this to show off and using the video card recommendation as an excuse.

You are TOTALLY off base here. A few points to consider:

1. I do very little gaming on my PC and mostly use it for playing poker (10 tabling)
2. I have an AGP mobo.

Therefore it is a waste of money buying a $500 video card when I will be using it mostly for 2D. I don't spend my money on things I don't need. ;)

[JaYBirD]

A little piece of advice for anyone else ordering a 2405FPW:

I asked the rep if he could give it to me for $850. At first he said no. But after checking with his manager and putting me on hold, he agreed to give it to me if I bought a laser printer for $50 including tax! (normally $127=tax). So for the sale price of $900 I got a free laser printer.

Printer details here (http://www1.ca.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/print_1100?c=ca&cs=CABSDT1&l=en&s=bsd&~tab=specstab#tabtop)

[s1301950]

Seeing that this deal is exactly identical to the one around xmas, i'd like to remind you guys that someone did get the 2405FPW for 825$. It'll be great if that guy could come up and tell us how he did it :)

Kenneth

[midg8]

A little piece of advice for anyone else ordering a 2405FPW:

I asked the rep if he could give it to me for $850. At first he said no. But after checking with his manager and putting me on hold, he agreed to give it to me if I bought a laser printer for $50 including tax! (normally $127=tax). So for the sale price of $900 I got a free laser printer.

Printer details here (http://www1.ca.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/print_1100?c=ca&cs=CABSDT1&l=en&s=bsd&~tab=specstab#tabtop)

If you're in the toronto area I'll buy that printer from you for the price you paid. Send me a PM if you're selling and interested.

[voyager6868]

First off, does Rogers even have any 1080P stations? I don't think any programming is in 1080P yet. Second, this monitor's only interface is the dual-link DVI-D connector... so you wouldn't be able to even connect it to your Rogers box. I also doubt, but am not sure, that it can accept and decode any HD signals... so using a DVI-HDMI connector probably wouldn't help. I'm not sure about this though.

Someone pointed out when the monitor was launched that it supports HDCP, so in theory, you should be able to connect any Rogers HD box to the monitor (you might need a HDMI-> DVI cable if your box has an HDMI output rather than DVI. but they're really cheap at http://svideo.com)

[fl4wless]

A little piece of advice for anyone else ordering a 2405FPW:

I asked the rep if he could give it to me for $850. At first he said no. But after checking with his manager and putting me on hold, he agreed to give it to me if I bought a laser printer for $50 including tax! (normally $127=tax). So for the sale price of $900 I got a free laser printer.

Printer details here (http://www1.ca.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/print_1100?c=ca&cs=CABSDT1&l=en&s=bsd&~tab=specstab#tabtop)

nice deal.

[s1301950]

Oh yea, only 3001 have HDCP. 2405FPW doesn't.
Someone pointed out when the monitor was launched that it supports HDCP, so in theory, you should be able to connect any Rogers HD box to the monitor (you might need a HDMI-> DVI cable if your box has an HDMI output rather than DVI. but they're really cheap at http://svideo.com)

[fl4wless]

Oh yea, only 3001 have HDCP. 2405FPW doesn't.

the 2407 coming out soon is rumored to (i think thats the model)

[guest3721]

Thanks for the clarifications between dvi-d and dual dvd-i.

[ainsane]

You are TOTALLY off base here. A few points to consider:

1. I do very little gaming on my PC and mostly use it for playing poker (10 tabling)
2. I have an AGP mobo.

Therefore it is a waste of money buying a $500 video card when I will be using it mostly for 2D. I don't spend my money on things I don't need. ;)

No, I'm not off base at all. In you're previous post, you didn't say what you use the monitors for, what type of motherboard you have, NOTHING. So how can anyone make any kind of recommendation? That's why it's obvious you were just gloating about your 2 monitors. You couldn't have expected any real recommendation without even a bit of info. Give me a break!

Just ordered my second 2405FPW. Any video card recomendations to run both of this? (I dont need to be able to game il full 1920x1200).

[ainsane]

Someone pointed out when the monitor was launched that it supports HDCP, so in theory, you should be able to connect any Rogers HD box to the monitor (you might need a HDMI-> DVI cable if your box has an HDMI output rather than DVI. but they're really cheap at http://svideo.com)

That's pretty sweet then. Too bad it doesn't have dual connections so you could switch between 2 different sources :)

[JaYBirD]

If you're in the toronto area I'll buy that printer from you for the price you paid. Send me a PM if you're selling and interested.

Tempting but I think I'm going to keep it. About time I upgraded my crappy ink-jet printer. $50 for a laser printer inlcuding cable, shipping and tax is a good deal. Try calling Dell Business and see if they will sell you the printer by itself.

[Jag]

Salivating at the 30" LCD

[kaikara]

I have the 24" and it is huge. I couldn't imagine going to the 30" althought the price is hot.

Oh and the 24" is a great monitor i have had it for two days and the eyes are still adjusting to it. I find i am getting more eye strain with it then I did with my 21" crt. I thought LCD's were suppose to be easier on the eyes? Maybe i just need to get used to it. I find i have to pan side to side now with my eyes to see the entire screen. Maybe that is the cause of the strain.

[warpdrive]

I have the 24" and it is huge. I couldn't imagine going to the 30" althought the price is hot.

Oh and the 24" is a great monitor i have had it for two days and the eyes are still adjusting to it. I find i am getting more eye strain with it then I did with my 21" crt. I thought LCD's were suppose to be easier on the eyes? Maybe i just need to get used to it. I find i have to pan side to side now with my eyes to see the entire screen. Maybe that is the cause of the strain.

Adjust the brightness and turn on ClearType

[kaikara]

yeah i did that...used the cleartype power toy and adjusted it. I have the brightness set to 0 - i can lower it more if I need to in the vid card settings but it seems good now. I think i was straining to see some of the text on it so i upped the size of the font and see if that helps.

All i have to say is Half life 2 looks great at 1920x1200 though.

[LNahid2000]

I'm drooling over that 24". Too bad I'm a poor student.

[Hayaku]

If you bought a 20" during the last deal days dealie, you can return it (w/o being charged a restocking fee), and "upgrade" to a 24" (or 24 -> 30, if you will).

Friend talked me into getting a 24, so I called, got it all done.

You'll have to purchase the new LCD in full, then speak to customer service to return the old one. Apparently they don't credit you back until they receive the LCD (makes sense... just hope I get my money back actually... been reading some horror stories).

7-10 business days before I receive.

[vpower]

I have the 24" and it is huge. I couldn't imagine going to the 30" althought the price is hot.

Oh and the 24" is a great monitor i have had it for two days and the eyes are still adjusting to it. I find i am getting more eye strain with it then I did with my 21" crt. I thought LCD's were suppose to be easier on the eyes? Maybe i just need to get used to it. I find i have to pan side to side now with my eyes to see the entire screen. Maybe that is the cause of the strain.

comming from 2 x 20.1" LCD to the 2405, I may say that's it's harder for my eyes. And I dont think I need a 30" for PC. Having hard time to get use to the 24"

[Weber]

I just ordered the 2405,

I was wondering though, I ordered over the phone and I got the confirmation e mail but I heard there was the apporval mail. Will I get that and how long will it be???

Thanks

[s1301950]

For those who have ordered before, how long did it take you to get the LCD ?

[Siefer999]

it seems like the 20inch is the new 17inch and the 24 is the new 19. soon 19/20inch is going to be the standard, just like how 17 took over 15. :( i hope prices go down a lot this year so i can have a merry xmas 06 :)

[weesur]

it seems like the 20inch is the new 17inch and the 24 is the new 19. soon 19/20inch is going to be the standard, just like how 17 took over 15. :( i hope prices go down a lot this year so i can have a merry xmas 06 :)
Then I am planning to buy a 17 inch lcd for 30$ :lol:

[itsyours]

For those who have ordered before, how long did it take you to get the LCD ?
About 10 days.

[taob]

It looks like there is some confusion or misunderstanding over the various flavours of DVI interconnects. DVI-D means a digital signal over a DVI cable. DVI-A means an analog signal over a DVI cable. DVI-I is a cable that can carry both digital and analog signals. So if you buy a video card with a "DVI-I" port on it, you can connect either a DVI-D or a DVI-A cable to it. Given how rare DVI-A is, you can pretty much assume anything you run into is DVI-D. :)

DVI-D (or a DVI-I in digital mode, same result) can be single-link or dual-link, which refers the number of timing signals sent down the wire. The maximum timing spec on DVI results in a resolution of 1920x1200. That's why the 2405FPW (and most LCDs) only requires a single-link DVI-D, and the 3007WFP (also Apple's 30" display) requires a dual-link DVI-D. Truly monstrous displays like the IBM T221 (at 3840x2400) require two dual-link DVI-D connections (for a total of four timing signals).

So when choosing a video card, the issue is not so much whether the card is DVI-D or DVI-I (both will work), but whether it supports dual-link DVI. If you don't have that (and most don't), you will not be able to drive the 3007WFP to its fullest potential.

[itsyours]

it seems like the 20inch is the new 17inch and the 24 is the new 19. soon 19/20inch is going to be the standard, just like how 17 took over 15. :( i hope prices go down a lot this year so i can have a merry xmas 06 :)
Next Christmas 19" LCDs will be the standard size and it will stand at that position for a long time (as long as 5 years). And then it will move up to the 24" as a new standard for the first half of next decade.
After that... I don't know, may be we'll use computers without monitors.

[taob]

I ordered my 3007WFP last Wednesday evening (Jan 11) for $1999 and it arrived at my doorstep on Monday afternoon, so not even three full business days. When I saw the $400 discount today, I called up Dell to see if they could offer any price protection. Technically, the guy on the phone said he was not authorized to refund $400... something about it taking him into "negative margin" territory (hmmm, is Dell losing money at this price?). However, he could instead offer me $400 in credit at the Dell store.

I ended up going with 2GB SanDisk Ultra II SD cards, which Dell has for $198 each, and that is the best deal I've seen up here too (they normally go for $215 or more). So if anyone bought in at $1999, call up Dell and see what they can do for you. Then go laugh at the Americans who are still paying US$2199 (60% more!) for the same hardware, though with a 3-year warranty. :cheesygri

[kingsley]

Everybody that got the 3007, I want to see some reviews with pictures when you guys get it!

[taob]

1. I do very little gaming on my PC and mostly use it for playing poker (10 tabling)
2. I have an AGP mobo.
For those who don't have PCI-E motherboards (like me with my two-year old system) and aren't into heavy gaming, the ATI Radeon 9600 Pro "PC & Mac Edition" (could they have come up with a worse name?!?) is a pretty darned good deal. I had a friend pick one up for me at the CompuSmart in Missassauga for $280 ($300 - $20 instant rebate... I think the deal ended Jan 18). It is a 256MB AGP card with two DVI-I ports, one of which can be dual-link.

I have my 3007WFP running at 2560x1600 on one DVI port and my LaCie 22" CRT running at 2048x1536 @ 85 Hz on the other DVI port. Let me tell you, this is one sweet desktop setup. :cheesygri :cheesygri :cheesygri

http://www.luxography.ca/Images/DWF/brian_dell_30.jpg

[taob]

Everybody that got the 3007, I want to see some reviews with pictures when you guys get it!
kingsley, I'll put up a review on my blog (http://blog.luxography.ca/) once I've had a chance to play with it some more. You should see full-screen Google Earth on this beast! :D

[xwar]

I have the X800 Pro and just called ATI, unfortunately that card does not support DVI-D, the rep suggested a 850XT Platinum or X1800 XT or XL, unforunately I don't have the budget to upgrade :(

My brother has a PowerColor X800XL which does have dual DVI out, now I gotta find out if its pci-express to fit my board!

I have a x850XT PE AGP ... will this work with the Dell 30 inch?

[SaraLee]

I'm pretty sure that the X800 Pro supports DVI-D and that it does not support dual link DVI.

"Dual dvi out", meaning two DVI connectors, is not at all the same thing as dual link DVI, meaning one connector with two sets of digital signals. Burried in this Wikipedia article is some information on dual link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Visual_Interface

As far as I know, the only non-workstation ATI cards that are suitable for the 30" are x1* (i.e. x1300, x1600, and x1800) and the oddball 9600 PC and Mac Edition (name is approximate).

The 30" Apple monitor has had the same requirements for a couple of years, so the folks with that monitor have been down this road before. Most video cards don't work in both a Mac and a PC; I don't know why. Here's an nVidia article about supporting the Apple 30" on Macs and PCs http://nvidia.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/nvidia.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=59&p_created=1097092529&p_sid=UpjwTPXh&p_lva=&%20p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PS ZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MTU5JnBfcHJvZHM9MCZwX2NhdHM9MCZwX3B2 PSZwX2N2PSZwX3NlYXJjaF90eXBlPWFuc3dlcnMuc2VhcmNoX2 ZubCZwX3BhZ2U9MSZwX3NlYXJjaF90ZXh0PUR1YWwgRFZJIFN1 cHBvcnQ*&p_li=&p_topview=1

According to your second link, all 7800GTX should support the 30" LCD, but I've read in other forums that not all 7800GTXs do. I am truly confused. I have a Leadtek 7800GTX 256 and I can't find the info on their website. :mad:

[hagbard]

does x850xt do dual link?

[zoob]

Thinking of picking one 30" up. Would anyone buy it from me if I decide not to keep it? I have the 24" right now. >:(

[Vinman]

I am so close to ordering the 30" Dell, but too bad I had a long day at work and just noticed it now. I have a compatible video card (X1800 XL) but I really need to weigh the $1500 expenditure, as well as measuring my desktop. :|

[madman604]

i SOOOO want the 24" but i have a 20" already...if only someone would take it off my hands..... :twisted:

[ainsane]

Thinking of picking one 30" up. Would anyone buy it from me if I decide not to keep it? I have the 24" right now. >:(

Of course someone will buy it. The question is for how much! If you expect to take 0 loss or like a $50 loss... probably not.

[Hugh]

For those who don't have PCI-E motherboards (like me with my two-year old system) and aren't into heavy gaming, the ATI Radeon 9600 Pro "PC & Mac Edition" (could they have come up with a worse name?!?) is a pretty darned good deal. I had a friend pick one up for me at the CompuSmart in Missassauga for $280 ($300 - $20 instant rebate... I think the deal ended Jan 18). It is a 256MB AGP card with two DVI-I ports, one of which can be dual-link.

I have my 3007WFP running at 2560x1600 on one DVI port and my LaCie 22" CRT running at 2048x1536 @ 85 Hz on the other DVI port. Let me tell you, this is one sweet desktop setup. :cheesygri :cheesygri :cheesygriGood info (and nice picture). Thanks.

Your information seems to contradict what ATI told me: that a dual link monitor "uses up" both RAMDACs so that a second monitor cannot be supported. Since then I've read that RAMDACs aren't used at all for the digital part of DVI, so something was wrong with that answer. Each link takes a TMDS. Now you say that you can support two monitors on your card, one of which is dual link. Very interesting.

Some things I've read suggest that ATI x1* cards have either one or two dual link DVI interfaces (x1800 cards always have two; others have two if the board maker chooses to provide them) http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=26937

I've got a query into Dell about their nVidia 7800GTX card. Things I've found suggest that this class of card generally has one dual link and one single link DVI.

This stuff sure is hard to find out. Spec sheet should but generally don't address these questions.

The other question that I don't know how to attack: how much noise does the card generate?

[Nukey]

For those who have ordered before, how long did it take you to get the LCD ?

I ordered a monitor last monday and got it last friday. It might take longer during the Deals weeks though.

[zoob]

Of course someone will buy it. The question is for how much! If you expect to take 0 loss or like a $50 loss... probably not.

My Dell Rep guaranteed me full money back 30 days. That's good enough reason to order! I hear muffled crying from my wallet right now.

[donye]

Is this LCD TV "Dell W2606C LCDTV" $947 good deal? Or
Is better buy LCD TV from costco when sale?
Because easy to return to costco than dell ,if not work.

[taob]

I have a x850XT PE AGP ... will this work with the Dell 30 inch?
I'm guessing "no", but I'm not 100% sure. Aside from the Radeon 9600 Pro PC & Mac Edition, you need an X1K or FireGL to get dual-link DVI support. I used ATI's product comparison page, and it claims that the Radeon 9600 Pro PC&ME does *not* support dual-link DVI, which is clearly wrong. So it seems even ATI does not know their own product line. >:(

When reading manufacturer descriptions, if it says it supports the Apple 30" Cinema HD display, then that means it has dual-link DVI. Do not confuse this with "dual DVI", which is simply two single-link DVI ports.

[bfg_16]

wow! nice prices on the LCD's......
i guess this is what everyone was waiting for!!
don't have a rig that can support that 30" right now!!....how we can all dream eh?

[taob]

Your information seems to contradict what ATI told me: that a dual link monitor "uses up" both RAMDACs so that a second monitor cannot be supported. Since then I've read that RAMDACs aren't used at all for the digital part of DVI, so something was wrong with that answer. Each link takes a TMDS. Now you say that you can support two monitors on your card, one of which is dual link. Very interesting.
Yes, that's right. People (and companies) still have the habit of referring to the RAMDAC frequency when talking about display output, which drives the maximum resolution and refresh rate on the monitor. With DVI, the RAMDAC is removed from the equation, the the TMDS protocol takes over. As near as I can tell, a TMDS transmitter can generate multiple signals, but the DVI spec says that both signals in a dual-link interconnect must be synchronized. I don't know what would happen if I tried to connect two 30" panels to the 9600. There is enough bandwidth on a single-link TMDS signal to support 2560x1600 @ 40 Hz... not good for 3D gaming, but likely quite sufficient for general desktop use. Since we're talking about LCD panels, there is no issue with phosphor persistence at 40 Hz.

Someone have another 3007WFP for me to play with? :cheesygri

Some things I've read suggest that ATI x1* cards have either one or two dual link DVI interfaces (x1800 cards always have two; others have two if the board maker chooses to provide them) http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=26937
Right again... also, some (all?) of the FireGL cards are capable of dual-link signalling on *both* DVI ports at the same time. You need that for the 3840x2400 displays from IBM, Viewsonic, etc.

Here is some reading for those still confused by the whole DVI thing:

http://www.pctechguide.com/07panels_DVI.htm

The other question that I don't know how to attack: how much noise does the card generate?
The ATI Radeon 9600 Pro PC&ME has no fans on it... just a flat heatsink over the chipset. It is a surprisingly simple card, and seems to weigh about half that of the Asus Radeon 9800XT/TVD it replaced in my system.

http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/mac/ATIRadeon9600Pro/card.jpg

(sorry, borrowing from Anandtech...)

[thebsharp]

Is the dell page down for anyone?

[tweakerxp]

Is the dell page down for anyone?
Yep, down, down, down :|

[riskit]

the redirect link is down but the Dell Canada page works directly

[taob]

It comes up fine for me:

http://www1.ca.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/7_days_savings?c=ca&cs=CABSDT1&l=en&s=bsd

EDIT: Ah yeah, it looks like the RFD redirected link is timing out, but the rest of the site is still up.

[champ91]

http://www1.ca.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/7_days_savings?c=ca&cs=CABSDT1&l=en&s=bsd

probably havta use this for now. but wait if you do purchase wait till they fix the redirected link

[duster]

Tempting but I think I'm going to keep it. About time I upgraded my crappy ink-jet printer. $50 for a laser printer inlcuding cable, shipping and tax is a good deal. Try calling Dell Business and see if they will sell you the printer by itself.

Sure?

The printer details say no:

Included:
Bullet Ship with Cartridge (1,000 Page Yield2), and 150-sheet standard drawer (cable not included)

I don't care about the cable anyway since I have 3-4 in stock, bought @ 0.99$ but I'm just curious...Does the rep said he will send a cable with?

Oh...I also WANT (do I NEED?!) the 24"...but ~1000$ for a monitor is too much for my "priority sense".

And 30" is really too big for me...except if I wanted to look television on my computer with a TV-Tuner card, playing game hard or watching DVDs. I do...but not mainly. For day to day computer related work (excepting for CAO or stuff), it's damn too big IMO. I just think about neck torture... :| But for those which find an utility (and can afford...), go for it! Your needs are probably not the same as mine. I'll not be jealous anyway. ;)

Betting for tomorrow? Does this guy (don't remember his name...) will finally have a projector? :D

[xwar]

I'm guessing "no", but I'm not 100% sure. Aside from the Radeon 9600 Pro PC & Mac Edition, you need an X1K or FireGL to get dual-link DVI support. I used ATI's product comparison page, and it claims that the Radeon 9600 Pro PC&ME does *not* support dual-link DVI, which is clearly wrong. So it seems even ATI does not know their own product line. >:(

When reading manufacturer descriptions, if it says it supports the Apple 30" Cinema HD display, then that means it has dual-link DVI. Do not confuse this with "dual DVI", which is simply two single-link DVI ports.

Thanks, I don't think so either ... it doesn't say it supports dual-link DVI anywhere.

[s1301950]

Hi all, got two 2405FPW shipping to Ottawa (arriving tomorrow) but my friend decided to get the 30" instead. Anyone wants this one for the same price? (900$+tax) Remember you could wait 1 week to 2 weeks to get it.

PM me.

[ichpen]

Almost got the 3007 but I also have a need for a decent LCD TV and this won't make a good TV by the sound of it.

Those who want a tv and monitor I would suggest you investigate the new 1080p LCD TVs out there (1920x1280 res).

Currently looking at the Sceptre 37SX-Naga. 800:1 contrast, 8ms panel that runs 1080p and currently at $2000 non-sale price in a few outlets. Has DVI, component, svideo, deinterlacer and plays all HD resolutions.

As a single PC monitor this thing is outstanding bar two issues:
1) Native resolution is out of reach for 90% of systems (if you like playing recent games)
2) Pivot/mounting is limited and likely a little 'too' big purely as a PC monitor

[shuffle]

I ordered my 3007WFP last Wednesday evening (Jan 11) for $1999 and it arrived at my doorstep on Monday afternoon, so not even three full business days. When I saw the $400 discount today, I called up Dell to see if they could offer any price protection. Technically, the guy on the phone said he was not authorized to refund $400... something about it taking him into "negative margin" territory (hmmm, is Dell losing money at this price?). However, he could instead offer me $400 in credit at the Dell store.

I ended up going with 2GB SanDisk Ultra II SD cards, which Dell has for $198 each, and that is the best deal I've seen up here too (they normally go for $215 or more). So if anyone bought in at $1999, call up Dell and see what they can do for you. Then go laugh at the Americans who are still paying US$2199 (60% more!) for the same hardware, though with a 3-year warranty. :cheesygri

I don't have any sympathy dude for you not getting the cash back - you have a damned 30" display!

j/k - must be nice!

[Vinman]

Hey, do these 30" LCDs come with cables?

[Weber]

what happens when you order by phone??? will they send you any e mails like if you order online?

[JaYBirD]

Sure?

The printer details say no:

I don't care about the cable anyway since I have 3-4 in stock, bought @ 0.99$ but I'm just curious...Does the rep said he will send a cable with?


Im 99% sure it does. I asked him if it came with the cable and he mentioned something about a special deal with cable and no tax. I couldnt make out all the words cause of his thick indian accent. Maybe he was trying to say "no cable". :confused:

[kingsley]

kingsley, I'll put up a review on my blog (http://blog.luxography.ca/) once I've had a chance to play with it some more. You should see full-screen Google Earth on this beast! :D

heh, great, I can't wait.

Make sure you get a picture with your keyboard in it or something 'cause I want to see how big it is in relationship to other thngs. I hate how websites in their reviews they put just a picture of the LCD. Or they put a picture of the two LCDs that there are comparing. It's like, "wow thanks for putting two 24 inch LCDs together, that puts everything into perspective" :rolleyes:

[thebsharp]

The 30 inch was really temping but I just got myself a 24" figure I'll be getting a real TV soon and Id hate to be spending too much time on the computer so I think I've made the right choice :/

[chrisc2]

Sweet ass! Ordered 2x 30" LCD's. I ordered via phone and haggled a bit and got $50 off each. Total price: $1549!

They kept trying to offer me "free shipping" which was already included in the deal and when I told them I was going to just order online to get airmiles, they caved and gave me $50 off each.

Thanks RFD. Are you working with TD to prevent me from ever paying off my line of credit?

[kingsley]

Sweet ass! Ordered 2x 30" LCD's. I ordered via phone and haggled a bit and got $50 off each. Total price: $1549!

They kept trying to offer me "free shipping" which was already included in the deal and when I told them I was going to just order online to get airmiles, they caved and gave me $50 off each.

Thanks RFD. Are you working with TD to prevent me from ever paying off my line of credit?

Wow, man....enjoy

I'd be happy with just a 2405 :D

[sparhawk909]

Out of my price range. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

http://members.shaw.ca/sk5969/Dell3.jpg

[kcjchan]

What's that and what exactly does it do?
gotta a link?

Back in the days when TV cards were non-existent or unpopular, the only way to get TV on a monitor was to use an external TV tuner. It will usually have the RGB/S-video input for you to hook stuff to your mon. Later on, the TV tuning functions were dropped and only the hookup options remained. A brand called NPSexy (weird name) use to make them. Don't know if they still do.

[scouzi]

This guy could have used this deal.!

http://flickr.com/photos/visualseed/86410009/in/pool-41224503@N00

[s1301950]

Anyone got their ETA?

[swales]

Anyone got their ETA?

Mine says Jan 25

[s1301950]

Cannot believe i ordered mine last saturday, turns out couldn't get it until tuesday, a mere one day difference to you guys who only ordered it yesterday. How de heck does dell operate?

[Weber]

how long does the order process take for you guys

[soupnazi]

My ETA is Jan31st and I'm in Vancouver. Are these shipping from Texas or Toronto?

[s1301950]

From what i've heard, texas. So it have to get over the border and then handed over to purelator, which, DOESN"T operate on saturday.... monday it is.

My ETA is Jan31st and I'm in Vancouver. Are these shipping from Texas or Toronto?

[oc613]

I asked a CSR today if it was from Texas and she confirmed that.

Also, what was the lowest people managed to get the 2405?

I had the first guy down to 840$, but then my cordless died! When I called back I got India again and he wouldn't budge from 886$ "Not a DOLLAR less", so I told him 850$ or I hang up right now - needless to say he agreed. But then I called in today to make sure the order went through (no email confirmation when done over the phone) and he pulled a fast one on me (or i just couldn't understand him) becuase I was invoiced for 860$. Bastard!

Anyways, not worth my time to deal with Dell support anymore, I'll keep my sanity for 10$ thank you.

So anyone manage to get less than 860$? I got him to promise that if I could prove a lower price I would get it, the call just might be worth it if someone managed, say, 825$ :lol:

[JaYBirD]

I asked a CSR today if it was from Texas and she confirmed that.

Also, what was the lowest people managed to get the 2405?

I had the first guy down to 840$, but then my cordless died! When I called back I got India again and he wouldn't budge from 886$ "Not a DOLLAR less", so I told him 850$ or I hang up right now - needless to say he agreed. But then I called in today to make sure the order went through (no email confirmation when done over the phone) and he pulled a fast one on me (or i just couldn't understand him) becuase I was invoiced for 860$. Bastard!

Anyways, not worth my time to deal with Dell support anymore, I'll keep my sanity for 10$ thank you.

So anyone manage to get less than 860$? I got him to promise that if I could prove a lower price I would get it, the call just might be worth it if someone managed, say, 825$ :lol:

Got mine for $850. The catch was that I had to buy a $50 laser printer that is normally $127-$150. Seemed like a good deal to me. Came with the cable, free shipping and no tax. Laser Printer Model was 1100.

[ancientdude]

Call up this guy:
18664893355 ext. 71702

Gave me 520 on the 20" and gave me 2 free printers... :-0
even if they were injet's...at least i can sell them for 20bucks each and get my monitor for 480?

Not that he remembers who i am but say Sebastian referred you...haha

[swales]

Anybody get their shipment yet?

[thebsharp]

Blasted! I called dell 2 days ago and they said my order will be ship on the 31st because they need to make the LCD LOL

[s1301950]

Ahh... got mine on monday.. I had a 19" before, and it turns out the 2405FPW isn't any much higher than my old 19". But the width.. man.. it's wide. And did i mention that it swirvel ? but seriously, it really isn't as practical as i initially thought. 'cause i do a lot of coding so i thought it's gonna give me a productivity boast. Well.. it does show more.. but the thing is it's rrrreeally tall. I have to move my head a lot while working. Is there any software that splits the monitor in a half and lets you work on each independently? Maybe i should combine my other 2405FPW.

[vpower]

Ahh... got mine on monday.. I had a 19" before, and it turns out the 2405FPW isn't any much higher than my old 19". But the width.. man.. it's wide. And did i mention that it swirvel ? but seriously, it really isn't as practical as i initially thought. 'cause i do a lot of coding so i thought it's gonna give me a productivity boast. Well.. it does show more.. but the thing is it's rrrreeally tall. I have to move my head a lot while working. Is there any software that splits the monitor in a half and lets you work on each independently? Maybe i should combine my other 2405FPW.

1. you got another 2405FPW? well, go to......grocery. :D
seirously, i think you can split the screen 50%DIV / 50%VGA.

not sure...will test it tonight.

[SaraLee]

Shoot, I asked this in the wrong thread earlier...

Is anyone here using the 3007 with a reference, 7800gtx 256MB card? I would like to know if it works with it as I am planning on to buy this later on in the year. I still can't find out if my card supports dual-link dvi.

Thanks.

[zoob]

You can only do Picture-in-Picture with (VGA OR DVI) and Composite/SVideo/Component.

You can NOT do PIP with VGA AND DVI.

but seriously, it really isn't as practical as i initially thought. 'cause i do a lot of coding so i thought it's gonna give me a productivity boast. Well.. it does show more.. but the thing is it's rrrreeally tall. I have to move my head a lot while working.

Have you used a dual monitor setup before? You still have to move your head around.

I have the 24" at home, and I move my head around a lot less than I do at work with 3 x 19".

[swales]

Mine arrived this afternoon :cheesygri

[7jai]

wow guys, lets stop bringing back OLD deals lol.

it's confusing me =( makes me think it is on again haha.

[fl4wless]

anyone get there 30Incher yet? post some pics!!!

[Geeps]

Dell's order status page says my 2405 is to arrive at work tomorrow !!!

Now I'm waiting for the new mac mini's / Power mac's to be released !!!

[Henry Low]

Ahh... got mine on monday.. I had a 19" before, and it turns out the 2405FPW isn't any much higher than my old 19". But the width.. man.. it's wide. And did i mention that it swirvel ? but seriously, it really isn't as practical as i initially thought. 'cause i do a lot of coding so i thought it's gonna give me a productivity boast. Well.. it does show more.. but the thing is it's rrrreeally tall. I have to move my head a lot while working. Is there any software that splits the monitor in a half and lets you work on each independently? Maybe i should combine my other 2405FPW.

I got two 19inch Dell lcds and it gave me a HUGE productivity boost when coding and designing my layouts for prints. (Previously had a Dell 17inch)
Best $600 dollars Spent ever!

[swales]

I hope someone on here can help me.

I just got the 2405FPW and I want to use it and my other monitor at the same time but it doesn't seem to be working. I'm using an ATI 9500 Pro, can I use both the DVI and D-Sub at the same time?

[KoolOne]

I hope someone on here can help me.

I just got the 2405FPW and I want to use it and my other monitor at the same time but it doesn't seem to be working. I'm using an ATI 9500 Pro, can I use both the DVI and D-Sub at the same time?


This page says so... (check under display support...)
http://www.ati.com/products/radeon9500/radeon9500pro/specs.html

Regards.

[swales]

This page says so... (check under display support...)
http://www.ati.com/products/radeon9500/radeon9500pro/specs.html

Regards.


Thanks, I figured it out :cheesygri

[tbagg]

I ordered the 3007 and the 7800gtx 256 and Dell says I receive it February 1st. Of course it will work with the monitor since it's a 'recommended add on card' by dell.

Not sure if you read the earlier posts but the card has to be DUAL LINK DVI-D to support the monitor. THere are 7800 GTX's out there with DUAL LINK and some without.


Shoot, I asked this in the wrong thread earlier...

Is anyone here using the 3007 with a reference, 7800gtx 256MB card? I would like to know if it works with it as I am planning on to buy this later on in the year. I still can't find out if my card supports dual-link dvi.

Thanks.