bump trading

[goffeebeans]

I think bump trading should not be allowed, as often the for sale thread is bumped several times a day. Seems like a way to circumvent forum rules, as the thread can be bumped in excess of 6times a day without the original poster bumping.

[deep]

Ha - I just read hustla's reply to my comment, and decided I would post a new thread here as well. I totally agree - the whole reason behind the 2 bumps per day is to prevent people from hogging the front page of the BST forums. Having other people do it for you and reciprocating is not "common courtesy", it's the exact opposite.

I would say extra bumps without relevant questions or comments should be treated as self-bumps, and limited to 2 per day, or threads should be locked. I'd love to do business with more people here, but when I just keep seeing the same crap on page one, I leave. I don't think that is healthy for the community.

[jollyeskimo]

Ha - I just read hustla's reply to my comment, and decided I would post a new thread here as well. I totally agree - the whole reason behind the 2 bumps per day is to prevent people from hogging the front page of the BST forums. Having other people do it for you and reciprocating is not "common courtesy", it's the exact opposite.

I would say extra bumps without relevant questions or comments should be treated as self-bumps, and limited to 2 per day, or threads should be locked. I'd love to do business with more people here, but when I just keep seeing the same crap on page one, I leave. I don't think that is healthy for the community.

How would such a system prevent malicious drive-by-bumpings then? It'd be a pretty easy way to lock up a competitor's thread.

I'm not necessairly against this...just tossing ideas around.

[teknoluv]

To be honest, I don't mind people bumping their own sales thread, except those which only have the word "bump". At least please come up with something more "creative". ;)

[Carnage]

I've noticed this once before.

When I noticed that there was 2-3 people bumping the thread daily it made me suspicous of the seller. Didn't really feel like trusting someone like that.

[deep]

How would such a system prevent malicious drive-by-bumpings then? It'd be a pretty easy way to lock up a competitor's thread.

I'm not necessairly against this...just tossing ideas around.

Good point. I guess what I'd rather see is BST threads being limited to one post. I don't know if the forum software could prevent additional posts in order to bump the thread, yet still allow sellers to edit the initial post to reply to questions posed to them via PM. This would eliminate thread crapping, public lowballing, and overbumping. Bad offshoot: someone who has genuinely useful information that the seller would rather you NOT read would be unable to comment on the item(s).

[Amourek]

I can see why it bothers you, but I wouldn't call it bump trading. There's no organized bump trading ring. I do bump the threads of people who I've dealt with before and are good traders, but I don't ask or expect the gesture to be returned and neither does anyone else AFAIK.

[stevethewheel]

I can see why it bothers you, but I wouldn't call it bump trading. There's no organized bump trading ring. I do bump the threads of people who I've dealt with before and are good traders, but I don't ask or expect the gesture to be returned and neither does anyone else AFAIK.

Some days you can notice that the bumps are going back and forth between traders who all have something for sale. It's surprising easy to see if you come at the right time of day after one of them has done like a bump ride down the threads, hitting up maybe 6 of them with just a :arrowu: . If you look close enough you might be able to find out who is scratching who's back. I don't think it's out of control (yet) though.

Then again there's this line in one seller's thread:

**Please help with bumps and I'll do the same for your threads! Thanks!**

[Hu$tlah]

Ha - I just read hustla's reply to my comment, and decided I would post a new thread here as well. I totally agree - the whole reason behind the 2 bumps per day is to prevent people from hogging the front page of the BST forums. Having other people do it for you and reciprocating is not "common courtesy", it's the exact opposite.

I would say extra bumps without relevant questions or comments should be treated as self-bumps, and limited to 2 per day, or threads should be locked. I'd love to do business with more people here, but when I just keep seeing the same crap on page one, I leave. I don't think that is healthy for the community.

You need to relax buddy and find something better to do with your time then to go and threadcrap like you did in my thread.

Some of You guys are taking this thing way too seriously. If people are bumping the threads I don't see any harm in that. If you are looking for something that you want, then there is a search button then can do wonders.

Have a nice day and Keep it bumpin :)

[ji2o0k]

friendly bumps are ok. I do it for excellent traders that I have dealt with, to convey that the particular trader can be trusted. But there is some etiquette involved. Excessive bumping isn't good for anyone since it takes away from new sale threads and also regulars on the board get tired of seeing the same item.

So they end up ignoring the thread and the item doesn't get sold.

As long as it isn't too excessive, I don't have a problem.

[Hu$tlah]

I understand what you are saying but what right does it give anyone to threadcrap in other peoples thread??????

Deep, who has been around these forums for a while comes into my thread and said all that nonsense and that is okay? What happened to the rules? As a senior member he/she should be setting an example and if anyone has a problem with that then take it to the mods. That is what they are there for. No one has the right to go in people's thread and saying their product is a fake. It makes the seller look like a scammer. I think what he did was unfair for my thread and it was very IMMATURE of deep to do that.

[Mok]

bumps should be allowed a certain amount of times per time period...

no one else should be able to post in the thread except the thread starter, if you got a question, PM the thread starter...

[ji2o0k]

I understand what you are saying but what right does it give anyone to threadcrap in other peoples thread??????


of course threadcrapping shouldn't be tolerated. If he crapped in your thread, report it to the mods. I wasn't aware of any threadcrapping, but if you feel he did, report and let the mods decide.

I was just saying courtesy bumps are ok, as long as not excessive IMO.

[SergesPlace]

http://show.imagehosting.us/show/1082118/0/nouser_1082/T0_-1_1082118.jpg

[felix]

friendly bumps are ok. I do it for excellent traders that I have dealt with, to convey that the particular trader can be trusted. But there is some etiquette involved. Excessive bumping isn't good for anyone since it takes away from new sale threads and also regulars on the board get tired of seeing the same item.

So they end up ignoring the thread and the item doesn't get sold.

As long as it isn't too excessive, I don't have a problem.
I agree. :)

[THE JEW (RaVeN)]

friendly bumps are ok. I do it for excellent traders that I have dealt with, to convey that the particular trader can be trusted. But there is some etiquette involved. Excessive bumping isn't good for anyone since it takes away from new sale threads and also regulars on the board get tired of seeing the same item.

So they end up ignoring the thread and the item doesn't get sold.

As long as it isn't too excessive, I don't have a problem.

Agreed. I try not to bump anyone's thread more than twice a day. If people feel the forum is cluttered (there's always someone on any forum who thinks so), there's always this:


http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/search.php?

[Hu$tlah]

Agreed. I try not to bump anyone's thread more than twice a day. If people feel the forum is cluttered (there's always someone on any forum who thinks so), there's always this:


http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/search.php?

Thank you Raven :). Even I mentioned the search button to the original poster of this thread and deep in my poker set thread. I will never bump someone else's thread more than twice per day either and I only do it to those who I have traded with or who have helped me out somewhat with what I was looking for.

[goffeebeans]

Im the original poster and nobody said anything to me.

The issue about bump trading is not about trading a friendly bump every once in a while, it's when its excessive on a daily basis.

It seems as if people are trying to interpret
10. Bumping a thread- No more that 2 bumps per 24 hour period (00:00 - 23:59)
Into no more than 2 bumps PER PERSON for a thread.

I.E. Person A and B bump the thread twice than original poster bumps his Thread twice.
or. Original poster bumps his thread twice, than person A/B/C continue to bump original posters thread twice a day.

If somebody already bumps your thread for you twice a day, you're not allowed to bump it twice yourself, nor should other members be allowed to bump your thread even more. Again this is in regards to bumping on a daily basis and not just a one off thing. IE. Your thread is constantly bumped 6-12 times a day by the same people

[SergesPlace]

Im the original poster and nobody said anything to me.

The issue about bump trading is not about trading a friendly bump every once in a while, it's when its excessive on a daily basis.

It seems as if people are trying to interpret

Into no more than 2 bumps PER PERSON for a thread.

I.E. Person A and B bump the thread twice than original poster bumps his Thread twice.
or. Original poster bumps his thread twice, than person A/B/C continue to bump original posters thread twice a day.

If somebody already bumps your thread for you twice a day, you're not allowed to bump it twice yourself, nor should other members be allowed to bump your thread even more. Again this is in regards to bumping on a daily basis and not just a one off thing.

I thought it was you can't bump your own thread more than twice a day. Does it specify anything other than that? It seems Vague to me. The mods have to put in the rules 2 bumps by anyone PERIOD!

[goffeebeans]

I thought it was you can't bump your own thread more than twice a day. Does it specify anything other than that? It seems Vague to me. The mods have to put in the rules 2 bumps by anyone PERIOD!

If the original poster bumps his thread after it has already been bumped twice, thats against the rules. Its not quite clear if other members bump your thread ontop of the two bumps, hence seems like an easy way to get around the rule.

[SergesPlace]

If the original poster bumps his thread after it has already been bumped twice, thats against the rules.


Where does it say that?

[goffeebeans]

Oh sorry, it doesnt say it, but it appears to be what the mods are enforcing in the for sale forums.
Ie when several people have posted to ask you questions about your item, they tell you to edit a previous post to respond to the questions and not to make more posts as they count as bumps.

[SergesPlace]

Oh sorry, it doesnt say it, but it appears to be what the mods are enforcing in the for sale forums.
Ie when several people have posted to ask you questions about your item, they tell you to edit a previous post to respond to the questions and not to make more posts as they count as bumps.

But i think that's directly related to the thread starter not replying to questions being asked. That counts as a bump. I've never seen the mods tell anyone that too many people are bumping your thread. This is what i've learned in my 2 years here. If you post a fantastic deal guys are going to let everyone know about it. You won't ever have to bump your own thread, everyone will do it for you.

[goffeebeans]

If you post a fantastic deal guys are going to let everyone know about it. You won't ever have to bump your own thread, everyone will do it for you.

Now take your example remove the "fantastic deal" and make the "everyone" into a few select people.

What you have is a personal forsale thread with a the same people including the original poster bumping the thread a lot more than 2x a day, everyday for weeks.

The same people are not just random people who stumble onto the thread and deem that its a good deal, its people who you've dealt with and are trading bumps with. ie. Ill bump your thread if you bump mine.

Question is if this is a way around the rule of bumping only twice a day.

[lkn4deals]

:arrowu: bump


:lol:



j/k...I agree with you...something needs to be done...

[Emancipated]

How serendipitous.

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2706086#post2706086

[THE JEW (RaVeN)]

How serendipitous.

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2706086#post2706086


Because they both appear to Asian, from Vancouver, and bumped each other's threads? Perhaps, but not to be stereotypical, that's not all that uncommon a combination. I've dealt with Truong99 before and he seemed like good stuff.

Bring on the witch hunts! I can't wait to see what happens when you guys find out that Dalidma and myself live in the same place :lol:

[thephenom]

Excessive bumping from others isn't THAT big of a problem, some seller do get bumped like 3-4 times a day by otherS on top of their own 2 bumps. But it doesn't happen to every thread, just a selected few seller get these kinda publicity among the members for being good trader. (Or the deal is really hot)

It would be nice to see those threads are limited to X amount of bumpage, but it doesn't bother me since it's only a few threads out of the hundreds we have daily.

[NDman]

One reasonable way to tweak it is that if there has been more than 2 BUMPS altogether within the 24-hour period, whether they are from people out of good will, or from the OP, the OP can't post anymore BUMP on the post.

[bfg_16]

friendly bumps are ok. I do it for excellent traders that I have dealt with, to convey that the particular trader can be trusted. But there is some etiquette involved. Excessive bumping isn't good for anyone since it takes away from new sale threads and also regulars on the board get tired of seeing the same item.

So they end up ignoring the thread and the item doesn't get sold.

As long as it isn't too excessive, I don't have a problem.

i agree as well...
i would bump threads of people whom i've traded in the past with

[stevethewheel]

i agree as well...
i would bump threads of people whom i've traded in the past with

I don't think that's what the OP is talking about. Lately you see folks that all have current sale lists bumping each other's lists without adding value. If you bump from a person you've bought/sold with and add something like 'great price, good trader' that's different than just the word bump or an up arrow. The non-value-added bumps aren't appreciated in other forums like off-topic either, though there's not such competition for bumps over there.

I wasn't going to say much because I don't think it's a big problem, but it is definitely growing and don't want to see it discounted as just an occasional friendly bump.

[thephenom]

I don't think that's what the OP is talking about. Lately you see folks that all have current sale lists bumping each other's lists without adding value. If you bump from a person you've bought/sold with and add something like 'great price, good trader' that's different than just the word bump or an up arrow. The non-value-added bumps aren't appreciated in other forums like off-topic either, though there's not such competition for bumps over there.

I wasn't going to say much because I don't think it's a big problem, but it is definitely growing and don't want to see it discounted as just an occasional friendly bump.
Wouldn't the word bump or :arrowu: mean the poster supports the seller? (Either from previous trade or bumping a good deal) I mean most people don't bump others thread cuz their fingers slipped.

[THE JEW (RaVeN)]

I wasn't going to say much because I don't think it's a big problem, but it is definitely growing and don't want to see it discounted as just an occasional friendly bump.

I think you're overestimating people's desire to bump threads. There's about 5 or so people who I've dealt with that I bump. Any more than that and......well, I'm not some forum bot. I'd just say "ta hell wit it" and move on. I've got better things to do than hang out all day in the For Sale section.

[Siefer999]

One reasonable way to tweak it is that if there has been more than 2 BUMPS altogether within the 24-hour period, whether they are from people out of good will, or from the OP, the OP can't post anymore BUMP on the post.
so if 2 ppl post in my sale thread in an early am hour, within one minute of each other, i cant bump up my thread to bring it up in the afternoon so it can get buried and lost...

while sellers who dont get ppl posting in their threads can time their bumps (like once in the morning and once in the afternoon/evening) and get more exposure...

if 2 dumb asses asked "wheres your location?" and "yea, wheres your location" just because they didnt see, it will hurt my ability to sell my item. i could also bump my competition at 3am in the morning and screw them over too cause they wouldnt be able to bump anymore.

:arrowu: that suggestion does not work, if anything... lock the sale threads so the op can only post in it or something

[xPiercedx]

no, only limited to two bumps if its the THREAD STARTER. the thread starter gets to post two bumps themself per thread, per day.

[D-Sisive]

at least you can bump here within 24hours of posting twice

at hofo, its bump every 2 days...and no way to change post to reflect sold/item change etc

[IceMan77]

bump....