Questions about Tag Heuer watches

[Sgt_Strider]

I noticed several of their watches have "automatic movement". What does that mean? Is it like atomic watches where it has extremely accurate time measurement? Does Tag Heuer carry any watches with that kind of accuracy? If not, any other brands? My price range is about $500 USD. thanks.

[gambit_360]

Automatic movement means that there is no battery. It is powered by the movement of the wearer's wrist. If you stop wearing it, after a day or two, it'll stop until you wear it again.

[Sgt_Strider]

Automatic movement means that there is no battery. It is powered by the movement of the wearer's wrist. If you stop wearing it, after a day or two, it'll stop until you wear it again.

thanks for the information.

[Happy13178]

Yeah. they're the same as "Kinetic" watches.

[cipher]

Automatic movement means it's a mechanical watch powered by gears and springs. Much less accurate than a quartz watch...but also much more elegant. The movement of the user's hands causes a weight to turn which in turn "winds" the watch spring. Some watches don't have this weight and the user must manually wind up the watch at regular intervals.

[cipher]

Yeah. they're the same as "Kinetic" watches.

If you're referring to the Seiko Kinetic watches, you're not even close.

[gh05t]

One thing I remmebr about tag heuer watches is that 10 years ago one could be had for as little as $400Cdn for the genuine stuff and then around 2000 Tag Heuer increased their prices on their watches considerably and immediately sales rose several fold as they now appeared more exclusive by sitting in the price range of more prestigious brands.

[commie]

One thing I remmebr about tag heuer watches is that 10 years ago one could be had for as little as $400Cdn for the genuine stuff and then around 2000 Tag Heuer increased their prices on their watches considerably and immediately sales rose several fold as they now appeared more exclusive by sitting in the price range of more prestigious brands.

Tag watches has always been more than that..
They have 1 model that is below $500. Which is their Formula 1 sports watch with the plastic wristband... I believe it was about $450 for that watch.....
Still a very good watch, but it was the entry level Tag.

All the other Tag's with leather or metal bands are over $1000. Has always.

[poedua]

$ 500 US for a watch ?????? You've got to be kidding ...run out of things to spend money on ? I hope you gave just as much to charity this year.....$ 500 for a simple watch to tell me what time is ??????......buying a watch is about the 800th in rank of what I'd spend $500 on !!!!! Must ne nice to have money to burn.

What does this Tag do that a normal watch doesn't do...sit up and bark ?

Got my Timex about 5 years ago or more ....$60....still works like a charm. Can anybody beat that ?????

PT Barnum was right.......

"There's a sucker born every minute"

[Hurk]

$ 500 US for a watch ?????? You've got to be kidding ...run out of things to spend money on ? I hope you gave just as much to charity this year.....$ 500 for a simple watch to tell me what time is ??????......buying a watch is about the 800th in rank of what I'd spend $500 on !!!!! Must ne nice to have money to burn.

What does this Tag do that a normal watch doesn't do...sit up and bark ?

Got my Timex about 5 years ago or more ....$60....still works like a charm. Can anybody beat that ?????

PT Barnum was right.......

"There's a sucker born every minute"

To each his own. What some people rank in terms of "purchasing" will be different of yours. Why try to insult them?

[poedua]

To each his own. What some people rank in terms of "purchasing" will be different of yours. Why try to insult them?

I just think spending $500 for a stupid watch is a 'sucker"play in my book ...no insult......he can buy what he wants......

Hmmmmmm....

$60 for Timex & $440 to the Salvation Army for the needy , ( maybe the Food Bank )

OR

$500 for a Tag

choices....choices.....choices....

what to do.....what to do.....what to do........???????


SOMETIMES, just SOMETIMES choices people make says a lot about them, doesn't it....like spending $500 on a stupid watch.

I dare anyone on this Forum to do better than my $60 for my Timex still humming along after 5 years !!!!

[warpdrive]

I just think spending $500 for a stupid watch is a 'sucker"play in my book ...no insult......he can buy what he wants......


Ya whatever dude.

A high priced watch is a luxury item, which by definition goes beyond basic needs addressed by a cheaper version. So you mean to tell us that if we work hard and make lots of money, we should donate it all away? You mean to tell us if you made good money (say $200,000 a year), you would always drive the cheapest car, live in the smallest house, eat McDonalds, only buy cheap $300 Dells, after all, those just get the job done also...no need to spend any more than that...because those items serve the same function.

Spare us your self-righteous diatribe please.

[Hurk]

I just think spending $500 for a stupid watch is a 'sucker"play in my book ...no insult......he can buy what he wants......

Hmmmmmm....

$60 for Timex & $440 to the Salvation Army for the needy , ( maybe the Food Bank )

OR

$500 for a Tag

choices....choices.....choices....

what to do.....what to do.....what to do........???????


SOMETIMES, just SOMETIMES choices people make says a lot about them, doesn't it....like spending $500 on a stupid watch.

I dare anyone on this Forum to do better than my $60 for my Timex still humming along after 5 years !!!!

Again, that's your opinion. You think a $500 watch is stupid. I think most Timex watches are ugly and unless I was working out and in jogging pants, I would never wear one. That's my opinion. So spending $60 on an ugly watch would be pointless, because I could spend more money on a watch I do like.

Again, to each his own.

[NLI10D]

to poedua

what people buy with their money is their business. i'm guessing ur all decked out in ur walmart shoes outfit etc (not that anything is wrong with it) else anything above that by your own categorization you would be a sucker.

[konfusion666]

lol, poedua. you can say the same thing about *ANY* luxury purchase...

- any car manufactured by Acura, Lexus, Infiniti, MB, BMW
- a house in the GTA that costs over $350k, to be used for a 4-person (or smaller) family
- a TV bigger than 20"
- a stereo system with more than 2 speakers ("surround sound"? who the hell *needs* that?)
- a computer faster than 2.0GHz

etc. etc.


I dare anyone on this Forum to do better than my $60 for my Timex still humming along after 5 years !!!!

I guess I already have you beat since I have a Casio which cost $9.99 when I bought it back in 1995 or so... 1 battery replacement later, it's "still humming along"... ;)

[Jaytee]

A high priced watch is a luxury item, which by definition goes beyond basic needs. So you mean to tell us that if we work hard and make lots of money, we should donate it all away? You mean to tell us if you made good money, you would always drive a cheapest car, live in an small house, eat McDonalds, only buy cheap $300 Dells, after all, those just get the job done also...no need to spend any more than that after all.

Spare us your diatribe please.


I agree. Well said.

[pacman]

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[pacman]

I dare anyone on this Forum to do better than my $60 for my Timex still humming along after 5 years !!!!

I'll take that challenge. Here is my grandfathers old Tudor Submariner watch (made by Rolex) that he bought brand spanking new in 1965 to celebrate his 25th wedding anniversary. He wore it everyday until he died in 1985. I can remember sitting on my grandpas lap (when he came to visit from England) when I was 4 years old and my "job" every morning was to wind up the watch for him. I can remember my little fingertips getting sore from the sharp edges on the crown and it's probably one of the only memories I really have of my grandfather. After he died, my father started wearing it and he wore it daily until 2 years ago....as it was no longer keeping good time. By that time, the watch looked pretty beat up, the crystal was ruined and the luminous material on the face had turned to an ugly brown color.

I sent it off to Rolex and they fully overhauled the watch and it came back looking brand spanking new.

I now wear the watch daily, and my son will eventually get the watch when I"m done with it.
Good quality watches last forever and serve more than just telling the time.

If you are happy with your Timex, that's great. But I do have one question for you, why on earth did you spend $60 on it when you could have bought a digital watch from Walmart for $5.99?http://members.shaw.ca/mr_pacman/IMG_0137.jpg

[jameswong]

You are willing to spend $500 to buy a watch. How much do you value the time in your life?

[Hurk]

You are willing to spend $500 to buy a watch. How much do you value the time in your life?
I value the time in my life so much, that I would be an expensive watch to view said time.

[konfusion666]

I'll take that challenge. Here is my grandfathers old Tudor Submariner watch (made by Rolex) that he bought brand spanking new in 1965 to celebrate his 25th wedding anniversary.

that's a beautiful watch... and a nice story.

i don't like the current Rolex'es though.

[webdoctors]

Fossil watches, unless they have a minimum 10 yrs warranty, i wouldnt buy any watch...

[numb555]

$ 500 US for a watch ?????? You've got to be kidding ...run out of things to spend money on ? I hope you gave just as much to charity this year.....$ 500 for a simple watch to tell me what time is ??????......buying a watch is about the 800th in rank of what I'd spend $500 on !!!!! Must ne nice to have money to burn.

What does this Tag do that a normal watch doesn't do...sit up and bark ?

Got my Timex about 5 years ago or more ....$60....still works like a charm. Can anybody beat that ?????

PT Barnum was right.......

"There's a sucker born every minute"


I laughed out loud reading this post, this is prolly the same person who shops at Zellers, and Walmart for his/her fashion needs. People who wear Tags, drive Porches, wear Pradas, bang hot chics because they can do so, and afford to do so. This post just shows how much class or sophistication you have in the real world. Which is prolly as much as your Timex watch.

[cipher]

I just think spending $500 for a stupid watch is a 'sucker"play in my book ...no insult......he can buy what he wants......

Hmmmmmm....

$60 for Timex & $440 to the Salvation Army for the needy , ( maybe the Food Bank )

OR

$500 for a Tag

choices....choices.....choices....

what to do.....what to do.....what to do........???????


SOMETIMES, just SOMETIMES choices people make says a lot about them, doesn't it....like spending $500 on a stupid watch.

I dare anyone on this Forum to do better than my $60 for my Timex still humming along after 5 years !!!!


What? You wasted $60 on a watch? Why do you even wear a watch? You can ask other people the time instead...then you'd have $60 to give to the Salvation army.

[Anessa]

$ 500 US for a watch ?????? You've got to be kidding ...run out of things to spend money on ? I hope you gave just as much to charity this year.....$ 500 for a simple watch to tell me what time is ??????......buying a watch is about the 800th in rank of what I'd spend $500 on !!!!! Must ne nice to have money to burn.

What does this Tag do that a normal watch doesn't do...sit up and bark ?

Got my Timex about 5 years ago or more ....$60....still works like a charm. Can anybody beat that ?????

PT Barnum was right.......

"There's a sucker born every minute"

Enjoy your Timex watch :lol: . I'll stick with my nice Longines, thank you very much.

[poedua]

Ya whatever dude.

A high priced watch is a luxury item, which by definition goes beyond basic needs addressed by a cheaper version. So you mean to tell us that if we work hard and make lots of money, we should donate it all away? You mean to tell us if you made good money (say $200,000 a year), you would always drive the cheapest car, live in the smallest house, eat McDonalds, only buy cheap $300 Dells, after all, those just get the job done also...no need to spend any more than that...because those items serve the same function.

Spare us your self-righteous diatribe please.

Not so much a "self-righteous diatribe please" , but a commnetary at the amazement at the folly of people wasting money & buying image over performance, and giving in to corporate media hype ....just to impress people. The consumer culture run amok - lining up ( can you imagine that ) for Xbox 360 is a case in point of hype gone beserk

Sorry, I didn't think people making 200 k a year went on RFD looking for an opinion on a watch.

I thought the OP was just a regular Joe like the rest of us ....married adult, kids, mortgage, making a modest $100k++ a year, mortgage to pay, kids education to save for etc. I give a mimimum of $5 k to charity a year, so If he's giving a simiular $10 k to charity, what's a measly $500 - point well taken.

I mean let's face it, you'd never see a student spending $500 US on a Tag or a Rolex now would you !!!!!

I know what a Jauguar or Lexus or Hondas BMW or Volvo cars can do or provide in terms of safety options, engine displacement, hybrid , mpg, etc vs a Kia.

Seems to me the only thing you notice each day ( as we drive a car each day ) with a Timex versus a Tag is that...... it tells time. What else does a Tag do that is a performance feature used or may reasonably be used each working day that a Timex can't do ? How often do we dive to 100 meters to tell time, or run our split chromnograph each day...OR need that capability each day ?

What else does a tag provide on day to day performance that a Timex doesn't ?

Or if you're dropping $500 on a Tag as a fashion statement, is it to match as an acessoriy to a suit, to baggies, shorts, some street outfit ...I mean surely it wouldn't be just to impress friends so you can say..." Look...I have a tag !!!! " No one is that shallow.

[poedua]

Your comments don't even make sense.

You say it's reasonable to spend $60 on a device to tell you the time, but it's unreasonable to spend $500 on another version.

Why spend $60 in the first place, you can probably get a watch at the dollar store which will tell you the time with reasonable accuracy and zero styling or fashion.

$60 is 60x more than $1
BUT
$500 is only 8x more than $60

Your logic is illogical.

Watches that cost more than $1 are simply status symbols, and paying $60 for a Timex is the exact same mentality as paying $500 for a Tag.

Must make some sense. You agreed. You made my point - thank you.

Spending $500 US on a watch is illogical. I'm glad you agree.

I have lots of $1 watches .....just that none of thoese have gone 5 years yet lioke the Timex has , otherwise I would have mentioned those..only got those about 3 years ago...they'l likely last as long as a Timex, we'll have to wait and see.

[poedua]

Again, that's your opinion. You think a $500 watch is stupid. I think most Timex watches are ugly and unless I was working out and in jogging pants, I would never wear one. That's my opinion. So spending $60 on an ugly watch would be pointless, because I could spend more money on a watch I do like.

Again, to each his own.

I didn't buy it cause it was ugly...I bought it to tell time.

Like you said, other people's opinions consider Tag ugly as well...except with a Tag you get an expensive AND ugly watch !!!! :)

Advantage ..Timex.

[poedua]

to poedua

what people buy with their money is their business. i'm guessing ur all decked out in ur walmart shoes outfit etc (not that anything is wrong with it) else anything above that by your own categorization you would be a sucker.

I'm sorry...where did I mention Wal Mart ? I never got my Timex there.

You're now a mind reader along with being an expert on watches ?

If so, I'm afraid you need to do a lot more work on both if you want to earn some credibility :)

[sonick]

in EVERY SINGLE WATCH THREAD, and also a majority jean/denim/clothing thread, theres alyways several sh*t-stirrers like poedua who argue "a $20 ______ can do the same thing as a $500 ______"; its getting damned tiring and boring.

lets not make every single discussion on the subject become a contest to see who can piss the furthest :rolleyes:

[poedua]

lol, poedua. you can say the same thing about *ANY* luxury purchase...

- any car manufactured by Acura, Lexus, Infiniti, MB, BMW
- a house in the GTA that costs over $350k, to be used for a 4-person (or smaller) family
- a TV bigger than 20"
- a stereo system with more than 2 speakers ("surround sound"? who the hell *needs* that?)
- a computer faster than 2.0GHz;)

etc. etc.


OK

Is there ANY difference worth paying for in the DAY TO DAY performance or a reasonable expectation of the DAY TO DAY performance of a Acura, Lexus, Infiniti, MB, BMW VERSUS a Cavalier, Neon, Escort , Kia etc. ?


I guess I already have you beat since I have a Casio which cost $9.99 when I bought it back in 1995 or so... 1 battery replacement later, it's "still humming along"... ;)

That's what i like to see a $10 workorse for $10 that achieves the same day to day performance expectations of a TAG ! Well done . I concede....you win. ! :)

[poedua]

Sounds like you bought a broken watch.. it hums? You should get it checked out.

Watches should tick, if make any noise.

Myself, I bought a $15 Walmart watch that tells me the time and for cheap. I've had it for 2 years, but since it's 1/4 the price, I could have bought 4.. in which case totals 8years. Oh and it doesn't hum. :razz:

I got the premium model for the same price as the standard model ..it also whistles along with humming :)

[poedua]

I'll take that challenge. Here is my grandfathers old Tudor Submariner watch (made by Rolex) that he bought brand spanking new in 1965 to celebrate his 25th wedding anniversary. He wore it everyday until he died in 1985. I can remember sitting on my grandpas lap (when he came to visit from England) when I was 4 years old and my "job" every morning was to wind up the watch for him. I can remember my little fingertips getting sore from the sharp edges on the crown and it's probably one of the only memories I really have of my grandfather. After he died, my father started wearing it and he wore it daily until 2 years ago....as it was no longer keeping good time. By that time, the watch looked pretty beat up, the crystal was ruined and the luminous material on the face had turned to an ugly brown color.

I sent it off to Rolex and they fully overhauled the watch and it came back looking brand spanking new.

I now wear the watch daily, and my son will eventually get the watch when I"m done with it.
Good quality watches last forever and serve more than just telling the time.

If you are happy with your Timex, that's great. But I do have one question for you, why on earth did you spend $60 on it when you could have bought a digital watch from Walmart for $5.99?http://members.shaw.ca/mr_pacman/IMG_0137.jpg

I can't top that ...you win . Nice watch too . Wow :cool:

[poedua]

I value the time in my life so much, that I would be an expensive watch to view said time.

Logic ?

[poedua]

What? You wasted $60 on a watch? Why do you even wear a watch? You can ask other people the time instead...then you'd have $60 to give to the Salvation army.

What have you got against $60 watches ?

[batman321123]

Actually poedua seems to stir sh*t in most threads. Simple threads where someone is asking a question get turned into debate threads by him so he can show off what he learned in debate club.

in EVERY SINGLE WATCH THREAD, and also a majority jean/denim/clothing thread, theres alyways several sh*t-stirrers like poedua who argue "a $20 ______ can do the same thing as a $500 ______"; its getting damned tiring and boring.

lets not make every single discussion on the subject become a contest to see who can piss the furthest :rolleyes:

[warpdrive]

Sorry, I didn't think people making 200 k a year went on RFD looking for an opinion on a watch.

I thought the OP was just a regular Joe like the rest of us ....married adult, kids, mortgage, making a modest $100k++ a year, mortgage to pay, kids education to save for etc. I give a mimimum of $5 k to charity a year, so If he's giving a simiular $10 k to charity, what's a measly $500 - point well taken.

Your sentence obviously shows your immaturity..."what's a measly $500". You must have missed the last RFD poll. The poll shows that there are lots of RFD's making good money. The only requirement to be an avid RFD'er is that you like bargains or like the thrill of the deal.

You seem to also have missed my point:
There are certain reasons to spend more on a product/service than the absolute basic needs. Beside basic food and shelter needs, people have a right to spend whatever they want to make themselves happy. Like the above example where the Tudor is practically a family heirloom. If you do not see value in spending more than $60, that is fine, but don't be a self-righteous d@#$ and try to put down others who do. As others pointed out, even your $60 is an extravagance in light of the fact that a $20 Walmart special can perform every bit as well as your Timex. Why not donate that $40 to charity instead? The way I see it, there are probably thousands more people each month wasting their money on $60 Timex's compared to the number of people buying $500 TAG's.

[Sgt_Strider]

To my critics:

How I spend my money is none of your business. I respect your opinion, but you have no right to crapthread in here. Second, I have nothing better to do than to spoil myself. I'm getting my university education paid for and pretty much everything else paid for except a car. When that happens, I'll let one of you guys know :rolleyes:.

[poedua]

Your sentence obviously shows your immaturity..."what's a measly $500". You must have missed the last RFD poll. The poll shows that there are lots of RFD's making good money. The only requirement to be an avid RFD'er is that you like bargains or like the thrill of the deal.

You seem to also have missed my point:
There are certain reasons to spend more on a product/service than the absolute basic needs. Beside basic food and shelter needs, people have a right to spend whatever they want to make themselves happy. Like the above example where the Tudor is practically a family heirloom. If you do not see value in spending more than $60, that is fine, but don't be a self-righteous d@#$ and try to put down others who do. As others pointed out, even your $60 is an extravagance in light of the fact that a $20 Walmart special can perform every bit as well as your Timex. Why not donate that $40 to charity instead? The way I see it, there are probably thousands more people each month wasting their money on $60 Timex's compared to the number of people buying $500 TAG's.

$500 on a Tag is a waste of money IMO, not $60 on a Timex.

Tell me so i understand then...no one has pointed out why a Tag would cost so much ...$500.

So what exactly do you get from a $500 tag that a Timex can't do in terms of normal day to day performace - what can a Tag do ( on day to day performance ) that a Timex can't ?

What are you paying for when you get a Tag.

[Sgt_Strider]

$500 on a Tag is a waste of money IMO, not $60 on a Timex.

Tell me so i understand then...no one has pointed out why a Tag would cost so much ...$500.

So what exactly do you get from a $500 tag that a Timex can't do in terms of normal day to day performace - what can a Tag do ( on day to day performance ) that a Timex can't ?

What are you paying for when you get a Tag.

Seriously Poedua, would you quit spamming here? We recognize that you can't justify spending $500 on a watch and there are those of us that wouldn't mind spending this kind of money on a watch. Alright, let's end it at that. You're not going to change the world by repeating what you have stated a million times.

[G.H.]

It is same thing some people pay big money for designer's cloth every year when new trends come.

[poedua]

Actually poedua seems to stir sh*t in most threads. Simple threads where someone is asking a question get turned into debate threads by him so he can show off what he learned in debate club.

I've been exposed !! True, if there's an ember, I'll occationally bring the gas can - but not in this case....we're joking around about stupid watches...this isn't abortion we're taking about here folks ....so chill

I simply think spending $500 is a mugs game...the embodiment of PT's quote IMO....

" there's a sucker born every minute "


It's just my opinion...I agree that it differs with some....no problem, but this IS a forum where alternate views can be expressed as far as I know .

I can joke about this because we're talking about a stupid freaking $500 watch - something that just spells STUPID to me, but, I'm 1 opinion only , hardly anything anyone should be bent out of shape over - $500 bucks on a watch just seems plain stupid to me .....I don't care how much you make...and stupidity regarding watches doesn't magically evaporate just because your income goes up.

People should should be bent out of shape over other issues like the Iraq War, the Middle East, Church vs State ( evolution ), rape, religion and the existence of God , the election. Those can be serious debates...but a $500 watch ?

Fluff. :)

[poedua]

Seriously Poedua, would you quit spamming here? We recognize that you can't justify spending $500 on a watch and there are those of us that wouldn't mind spending this kind of money on a watch. Alright, let's end it at that. You're not going to change the world by repeating what you have stated a million times.

How's a TAG different than a Timex ?

If there's no difference, then PT applies IMO.

[poedua]

To my critics:

How I spend my money is none of your business. I respect your opinion, but you have no right to crapthread in here. Second, I have nothing better to do than to spoil myself. I'm getting my university education paid for and pretty much everything else paid for except a car. When that happens, I'll let one of you guys know :rolleyes:.

Just so I'm clear, you're a university student and you're going to buy a $500 Tag ?

Just to confirm, what's the primary reason..fashion or performance ?

[poedua]

Seriously Poedua, would you quit spamming here? We recognize that you can't justify spending $500 on a watch and there are those of us that wouldn't mind spending this kind of money on a watch. Alright, let's end it at that. You're not going to change the world by repeating what you have stated a million times.

OK, fair enough. Help me understand. Let's say I consider buying a TAG watch for $500. Why is it a good idea to buy it ? is all I want to know

1. So what exactly do you get from a $500 tag that a Timex can't do in terms of normal day to day performace - what can a Tag do ( on day to day performance ) that a Timex can't ?

2. What are you paying for when you get a Tag. ?

Can you answer these 2 questions ?

[MasZakrY]

poedua, your answer follows:

Why should I own an high-end watch?

The point of owning an expensive watch is not just to tell time, but to own something which is rare and finely crafted. Sometimes it seems suits, shoes, and hairstyles in the corporate arena are all the same. A watch can make a statement about the person who wears it. For some, a watch is the only method of self-expression.



Why are high-end watches so expensive?

Completely mechanical (non quartz)
How the movements are finished, good movement
Smoothness of the gears
The number of jewels and how they are put in
Materials used for the rotor
Number of parts(130 average, over 700 very complicated.)
Handmade
Multiple complications or a skeleton face
Gold/platinum case and bracelet.

[Sgt_Strider]

Just so I'm clear, you're a university student and you're going to buy a $500 Tag ?

Just to confirm, what's the primary reason..fashion or performance ?


Yes, I'm a university student and yes I have money to spend on stuff. I'm trying to locate prices for a Tag watch that I have interest in. I'm going to buy one simply because I want one. When I'll get it? When I decide if I should buy it now or wait until next year when I head down to the U.S again.

[poedua]

poedua, your answer follows:

Why should I own an high-end watch?

The point of owning an expensive watch is not just to tell time, but to own something which is rare and finely crafted. Sometimes it seems suits, shoes, and hairstyles in the corporate arena are all the same. A watch can make a statement about the person who wears it. For some, a watch is the only method of self-expression.



Why are high-end watches so expensive?

Completely mechanical (non quartz)
How the movements are finished, good movement
Smoothness of the gears
The number of jewels and how they are put in
Materials used for the rotor
Number of parts(130 average, over 700 very complicated.)
Handmade
Multiple complications or a skeleton face
Gold/platinum case and bracelet.

Thanks for the thoughtful and reasoned reply. :)

If it meets the criteria of an 'investment' due to quality, limited production runs etc, it seems to me the price premium may have some merit. I can accept that.

Clearly, timex cannot provide either of these qualities.

[poedua]

Yes, I'm a university student and yes I have money to spend on stuff. I'm trying to locate prices for a Tag watch that I have interest in. I'm going to buy one simply because I want one. When I'll get it? When I decide if I should buy it now or wait until next year when I head down to the U.S again.

Want for performance or fashion ?

And, why a Tag specifically ?

[manixc]

jeez all these fuzz about a watch.

[manixc]

Want for performance or fashion ?

And, why a Tag specifically ?

why do you care? just let it go. It's not like what you say will have an impact on Sgt_Strider's purchase decision.

[MasZakrY]

I do however own a 1971 timex

http://www.watch-works.co.uk/bulk/w796.jpg

(same, except gold face and black band, its automatic and all that) and I have yet to see it become an investment piece. Looking at watches as investment pieces to make money on is a bad investment if I've ever seen one. Rolex is the only brand I have heard of actually go up in value after you buy it.

[MrDisco]

$ 500 US for a watch ?????? You've got to be kidding ...run out of things to spend money on ? I hope you gave just as much to charity this year.....$ 500 for a simple watch to tell me what time is ??????......buying a watch is about the 800th in rank of what I'd spend $500 on !!!!! Must ne nice to have money to burn.


holy crap if it's not the health nazis it's the cheapo-cry babies. why don't you people understand that there are luxuries in life and when you reach a certain level of wealth indulging in such luxuries is a reward in itself.

If you can't afford it don't begrduge those who can.

If we went by your mentality we'ld all be driving Pintos, wearing a standard grey uniform, and eating the cheapest foods we could find. :rolleyes:

[MrDisco]

I'll take that challenge. Here is my grandfathers old Tudor Submariner watch (made by Rolex) that he bought brand spanking new in 1965 to celebrate his 25th wedding anniversary.

thats a great story. thanks for sharing it.

[warpdrive]

Amen to that MrDisco

Every time somebody posts a deal about KFC, or luxury watches, out of the woodwork they come.

Sgt_strider, I would not try to dignify his posts by answering his questions. I will answer yours:

An automatic watch can be otherwise called self-winding mechanical watches. Automatic watches are completely mechanical watches, they are made of gears, levers, springs and the watch is powered by winding up a spring. In most watches, you have to turn the knob to wind it. But the "automatic" part comes from a rotor which swings around in circles due to the movement of your arm, this rotor winds up the spring. So just by wearing it the watch winds itself. Fully wound up, the watch will run about 1-2 days after that you have to wind it some more. These kinds of watches are more expensive, because they are more expensive to build. But they are also less accurate, but properly taken care of (including tuneups every 5-10 years), they are last a lifetime or several lifetimes and any parts that do wear out can be replaced (after all, the parts are common). Most people who collect watches really only care about mechanical watches, due to the craftsmanship involved (there is no craftsmanship in an integrated circuit powered by a battery). The basic design of the mechanical watch hasn't changed much in a century, which is part of its appeal...it harkens back to the days when watches were assembled by master watchmakers. You are owing a "timepiece" rather than a cheap Made in China circuit board. For a Quartz watch, if any part of your circuit board fails, the service center will just give you a new module because they are super cheap to replace..they are not meant to be serviced.

The Seiko Kinetic watches and several others are not the same as "automatics". A Kinetic watch uses a rotor (swings around the same as the automatic watch as above), but instead it drives a micro-generator to charge a capacitor/cell which powers the circuit. So basically, it's a Quartz electronic watch but doesn't need a battery. These all fall into the category of batteryless Quartz watch

[Jaytee]

Different strokes for different folks.

You can keep your Timex and I will keep my Tag Kirium watch which I love.

http://www.watch-universe.com/images/57102.jpg

[lonelydriver]

If you can't afford it don't begrduge those who can.
:


I don't think that has anything to do with it. I think his point was that we should be discouraging conspicuous consumption.

why not help out a person in need instead of spending that extra money on something you don't necessarily need?

[warpdrive]

I don't think that has anything to do with it. I think his point was that we should be discouraging conspicuous consumption.


Huh, this is RedFlagDeals. The whole site is about consumption. Do you see me going to the thread about 1920x1200 Dell 24" LCD monitors Deals and telling people that it's a waste of money and are fools? Everybody finds different value in the things they do with their money.

[Sgt_Strider]

Amen to that MrDisco

Every time somebody posts a deal about KFC, or luxury watches, out of the woodwork they come.

Sgt_strider, I would not try to dignify his posts by answering his questions. I will answer yours:

An automatic watch can be otherwise called self-winding mechanical watches. Automatic watches are completely mechanical watches, they are made of gears, levers, springs and the watch is powered by winding up a spring. In most watches, you have to turn the knob to wind it. But the "automatic" part comes from a rotor which swings around in circles due to the movement of your arm, this rotor winds up the spring. So just by wearing it the watch winds itself. Fully wound up, the watch will run about 1-2 days after that you have to wind it some more. These kinds of watches are more expensive, because they are more expensive to build. But they are also less accurate, but properly taken care of (including tuneups every 5-10 years), they are last a lifetime or several lifetimes and any parts that do wear out can be replaced (after all, the parts are common). Most people who collect watches really only care about mechanical watches, due to the craftsmanship involved (there is no craftsmanship in an integrated circuit powered by a battery). The basic design of the mechanical watch hasn't changed much in a century, which is part of its appeal...it harkens back to the days when watches were assembled by master watchmakers. You are owing a "timepiece" rather than a cheap Made in China circuit board. For a Quartz watch, if any part of your circuit board fails, the service center will just give you a new module because they are super cheap to replace..they are not meant to be serviced.

The Seiko Kinetic watches and several others are not the same as "automatics". A Kinetic watch uses a rotor (swings around the same as the automatic watch as above), but instead it drives a micro-generator to charge a capacitor/cell which powers the circuit. So basically, it's a Quartz electronic watch but doesn't need a battery. These all fall into the category of batteryless Quartz watch


Thanks for the information man. I'm just curious though, are there such thing as "atomic watches"? I also want a very accurate watch as well..

[warpdrive]

Thanks for the information man. I'm just curious though, are there such thing as "atomic watches"? I also want a very accurate watch as well..

Yes, atomic watches have a built-in radio receiver which receive a time signal (based in Colorado) from an Atomic clock. I've seen Casio offer a few versions of them (search for Waveceptor). I've never seen a high end watch offer that feature.

[MasZakrY]

Thanks for the information man. I'm just curious though, are there such thing as "atomic watches"? I also want a very accurate watch as well..

I believe you should look into the new technology that is google.com. Yes it is available, but when warpdrive is talking about accurracy with electronic quartz over mechanical watches ones, the difference is VERY minor. You may lose a couple of seconds over the course of a month.

Bottom line:
If you like to watch hockey, people will buy lots of hockey crap (jerseys, cards, bobbleheads, etc...), if you like craftsmenship, you may like collecting watches. Different strokes for different folks, can't we all just get along?

[GTI]

Watches are like jewelery. Someone is gonna buy it. Check out this list of the top 20 watches of the century. (http://www.bidtheewell.com/20th/20th01.html) The first LED digital watch was worth $2100 in the 70's.

http://www.bidtheewell.com/20th/watch7.jpg Bling Bling!

[lonelydriver]

Huh, this is RedFlagDeals. The whole site is about consumption. Do you see me going to the thread about 1920x1200 Dell 24" LCD monitors Deals and telling people that it's a waste of money and are fools? Everybody finds different value in the things they do with their money.


rfd is about finding bargains, not buy for the sake of buying. though it's seems that's what most are doing now

[sonick]

rfd is about finding bargains, not buy for the sake of buying. though it's seems that's what most are doing now
well, if somebody buys a $1400 watch for $400, i'd say they got quite a bargain ;)

[warpdrive]

rfd is about finding bargains, not buy for the sake of buying. though it's seems that's what most are doing now

Buying is consumption. Finding bargains leads to buying. Same result. Don't be so nitpicky...it's just semantics. As stated above, finding a $1400 watch for $400 would and should qualify as a hot deal. But guess what will happen if somebody posted a deal like that...you'd get all manner of people like Mr Poewhatever coming out of the woodwork.

[MrDisco]

I don't think that has anything to do with it. I think his point was that we should be discouraging conspicuous consumption.

why not help out a person in need instead of spending that extra money on something you don't necessarily need?

he's being a troll and thread crapper - nothing less. it's the harrassment of people who can afford luxuries in life. you want to feel good b/c you like being cheap that's your business.

you want to donate and give to charity? wonderful. why not a start a thread and talk about it instead of crapping on those who are seeking info on a completely unrelated topic. Further how do we know the op doesn't already give to a charity, volunteer, etc? we don't.

again - if you don't like luxury goods that's your business. quit crapping on threads for those of us who do.

[MrDisco]

Yes, atomic watches have a built-in radio receiver which receive a time signal (based in Colorado) from an Atomic clock. I've seen Casio offer a few versions of them (search for Waveceptor). I've never seen a high end watch offer that feature.

i have a G-Shock with waveceptor. It does indeed receive a time signal from Colorado BUT i find it doesn't work very well indoors (you have to give it as clear a line-of-sight as possible).

[warpdrive]

i have a G-Shock with waveceptor. It does indeed receive a time signal from Colorado BUT i find it doesn't work very well indoors (you have to give it as clear a line-of-sight as possible).

That is right, they don't work too well indoors. I have a wall clock and a alarm clock with atomic receiver and in certain rooms of the house, they don't get a signal at all.

[poedua]

holy crap if it's not the health nazis it's the cheapo-cry babies. why don't you people understand that there are luxuries in life and when you reach a certain level of wealth indulging in such luxuries is a reward in itself.

If you can't afford it don't begrduge those who can.

If we went by your mentality we'ld all be driving Pintos, wearing a standard grey uniform, and eating the cheapest foods we could find. :rolleyes:

The parent's wealth or the university student's wealth ?

But you're right, if you're in university and you can blow $500 bucks on a watch, you've got money to burn.

[poedua]

why do you care? just let it go. It's not like what you say will have an impact on Sgt_Strider's purchase decision.

Just curious why a Tag over a Rolex or an Omega ?

[peroxide8888]

$500 on a Tag is a waste of money IMO, not $60 on a Timex.

Tell me so i understand then...no one has pointed out why a Tag would cost so much ...$500.

So what exactly do you get from a $500 tag that a Timex can't do in terms of normal day to day performace - what can a Tag do ( on day to day performance ) that a Timex can't ?

What are you paying for when you get a Tag.Your cheap POS Timex tells the time.

My >$60 watch gives me the self-satisfaction that I worked hard to earn the money in order to afford something nicer than a POS Timex.

Luxury goes beyond what you need, and pertains to what you desire - a little "something nice" once in a while, to make you feel good about yourself.

Retail therapy, look into it because it works (if not for all, for some - and that's good enough).

Also remember, opinions are like *******s - everybody has one.

[poedua]

holy crap if it's not the health nazis it's the cheapo-cry babies. why don't you people understand that there are luxuries in life and when you reach a certain level of wealth indulging in such luxuries is a reward in itself.

If you can't afford it don't begrduge those who can.

If we went by your mentality we'ld all be driving Pintos, wearing a standard grey uniform, and eating the cheapest foods we could find. :rolleyes:

Not a matter of begrudging at all, my sister has a couple of million bucks - wealthy by most standards - and she wears a cheap Casio watch and a Timex Ironman for her triathalons - has for years. Bought a used car a couple of months ago too.

I had made a mistake, it first seemed like the story of those 'rich kids 'I knew in school ...daddy paid for university, books, residence , car and trips south for break...and when the little little rich kids in school wanted something else , he'd just hold hisd breath til lhe turned blue and daddy caved in and bought him what he weanted ...plasma tv, watch, cell phone, digital camera etc. etc. ...always what he wanted not what he needed.

We used to all laugh and call it 'he little rich kid syndrome""...not begrudging at all "really - we actually felt sorry for kids like that.

This obviously isn't the case here with the Tag whatsoever...this OP needs it for a good reason, and "daddy "isn't paying for it.

[poedua]

rfd is about finding bargains, not buy for the sake of buying. though it's seems that's what most are doing now

Exactly,one could question whether a Tag is a bargain however...an investment maybe...a bargain...i doubt it

...but then I don't need a Tag as an investment or as a fashion statement or some status symbol to impress my friends and co-workers ...I just need a watch to tell time . Suffice it to say, you'd be hard pressed to say anyone NEEDS a Tag - you want a TAG - period.

Obviously, watches mean a great deal more to other people...that's why people are willing to pony up $500 for a watch to make a fashion or status statement. Different strokes for different folks i guess.

[poedua]

Your cheap POS Timex tells the time.

My >$60 watch gives me the self-satisfaction that I worked hard to earn the money in order to afford something nicer than a POS Timex..

Good point, hats off to the OP who is studying hard at university and still has a good enough part time job to have "worked hard to earn the money in order to afford something nicer than a POS Timex "- the Tag - i actually made the mistake of thinking his parents were going to pay for the Tag simply because he asked for one - i.e he simply wanted one . My mistake...he's earning it himself...at least he's got some integrity, mommy & daddy aren't paying for it. :)

Luxury goes beyond what you need, and pertains to what you desire - a little "something nice" once in a while, to make you feel good about yourself...

If it takes a $500 watch to make someone feel good asbout themselves...well, that pretty much speaks for itself doesn't it !!!! :)


Also remember, opinions are like *******s - everybody has one.

Wow ...you're right about that.

Read all the pro-tag posts / opinions !!!!!

[warpdrive]

Obviously, watches mean a great deal more to other people ...that's why people are willing to pony up $500 for a watch to make a fashion or status statement. Different strokes for different folks i guess.

Duuuuuh....exactly!!! I think somebody said this about 4 pages back?!?!

That's what we've been saying all along....now stop with the threadcrapping and trolling. I think after all these posts, there is some glimmer of hope that you actually have a clue.


Exactly,one could question whether a Tag is a bargain however...an investment maybe...a bargain...i doubt it

Wrong.

bar·gain ( P ) Pronunciation Key (bärgn)
n.
3. Something offered or acquired at a price advantageous to the buyer.

Thus, if the TAG is on sale, notice in the definition that whether it's a bargain or not has NOTHING to do with what YOU think. If the buyer desires and acquires it at a substantial discount off normal selling price....then it's a bargain, period. For you, just because YOU don't think it is worth it does not mean it is open season for threadcrapping.

[konfusion666]

Watches are like jewelery. Someone is gonna buy it. Check out this list of the top 20 watches of the century. (http://www.bidtheewell.com/20th/20th01.html) The first LED digital watch was worth $2100 in the 70's.

http://www.bidtheewell.com/20th/watch7.jpg Bling Bling!

thats an interesting list. i didn't think any Movado's would make it on there, but 2 did. guess i should keep the one i have.

[konfusion666]

Arguing over a overpriced $60 Timex watch versus an overpriced $500 Tag watch is futile.

... what i find (also) odd about this discussion is all the fascination with "the $500 TAG". from my knowledge they cost at least $1000 more than that...

[warpdrive]

... what i find (also) odd about this discussion is all the fascination with "the $500 TAG". from my knowledge they cost at least $1000 more than that...

The whole reason for this discussion is odd. It's safe to say that podeuer finds any watch over $60 overpriced. It's ironic because a lot of people would say the same about his $60 watch (that it is overpriced)

[poedua]

Duuuuuh....exactly!!! I think somebody said this about 4 pages back?!?!

That's what we've been saying all along....now stop with the threadcrapping and trolling. I think after all these posts, there is some glimmer of hope that you actually have a clue.


Wrong.

bar·gain ( P ) Pronunciation Key (bärgn)
n.
3. Something offered or acquired at a price advantageous to the buyer.

Thus, if the TAG is on sale, notice in the definition that whether it's a bargain or not has NOTHING to do with what YOU think. If the buyer desires and acquires it at a substantial discount off normal selling price....then it's a bargain, period. For you, just because YOU don't think it is worth it does not mean it is open season for threadcrapping.

Poor boy. So many words, such little relevance. :)

How is a discussion on the merit of spending $500 threadcrapping and trolling when I have conceded that there are differeing views on this when i said....

'Obviously, watches mean a great deal more to other people ...that's why people are willing to pony up $500 for a watch to make a fashion or status statement. Different strokes for different folks i guess.

I also acknowledged I had made a mistake in thinking that his 'mommy & daddy were going to buy him this $500 'Tag watch, for the simple shallow reason the he just 'wants it ' in keeping with the 'little rich kid 'syndrome i'd witnessed before. Ovbiously not the case here.

He's a univeristy student and he's had school paid for - but he obviously must have a part-time job or a summer job to be able to afford to buy himself a $500 watch while still in school ( I assume it's for fashion, as i don't envision him using a chronograph function or diving to 100 meters each day while at school as he studies ) while many other kids scrape along just to get by on student loans. As many have said, no problem buying luxury items if you have worked your but off to 'earn it '...and the OP has onviously worked his butt off to find the money to buy this watch and not have to beg mommy & daddy for a TAg cause it ether 'looks nice 'or it'll impress people.

Too bad the OP never provided details as to how he was so succesful at saving so much money to earn it while still working his butt off at school - kudos should go out to him I'd love to know what sort of job he was able to land to get his $500 so we could all give him a pat on the bacj for all his hard work.

Because let's face it, nobody would ask their parents for Tag while in univeristy ( just because they wanted one ) when their parents just picked up the tab payi8ng for school...school is a 'need ''to get ahead in the world, a $500 watch is a 'nice to have 'but I suppose if someone earns the money and pays for it himself like the OP is doing ........knock yourself.

Oh, and if you "really think a $ 500 watch is a bargain when a $60 will do the exact same thing......even moreson while in university.......this " glimmer of hope that you actually have a clue " is sadly beyond innaplicable to you in this respect ...go back to this nice dictionary and study the term "cluless".

In any event, kudos top the OP for working that job and earning unuf bucks to buy his Tag ! Don't you wish we could all work as hard as he has ? ;)

Well done !

[poedua]

The whole reason for this discussion is odd. It's safe to say that podeuer finds any watch over $60 overpriced. It's ironic because a lot of people would say the same about his $60 watch (that it is overpriced)

I have a $60 watch ...why would i find it overpriced if i bought one for $60 ?

I don't need something like a Tag or Rolex with a stopwatch or chronograph or world time or a water resistance to 200 meters, or all the other bells & whistles,yada yada yada and I don't need a watch to make a fashion statement or to impress people or to have it make me feel good about myself...AND I certainly didn't need one or even want one when I was in university

I just need a watch that tells me what time it is. :)

Oops there I go again...."threadcrapping and trolling"...I just said i just want a watch that tells time...again. . My apologies. :cry:

[computer01]

To each their own. I prefer a little class and sophisticaion over a simply adequate wristwatch. The beauty of a free country is that you can own your $60 Timex, and I can have my Seiko Kinetic Arctura and Casio Atomic Solar watch.

I use the Seiko when I need a more business oriented feel and the Casio at other times because it synchronizes the time daily and is solar powered. It is also very rugged.

Arguing about this stuff is just pointless. Everyone has facets of their lives that someone, somewhere would consider flagrant.

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/263/skh2976by.jpg
http://img416.imageshack.us/img416/959/gw1200ba1wa.jpg

[MrDisco]

How is a discussion on the merit of spending $500 threadcrapping and trolling when I have conceded that there are differeing views on this when i said....

In any event, kudos top the OP for working that job and earning unuf bucks to buy his Tag ! Don't you wish we could all work as hard as he has ? ;)

Well done !

You are being a troll and a lousy threadcrapper because:
1. you are attacking (completely unprovoked) the op for his interest and adding comments that have nothing to do with the original topic
2. you have admitted to make a wrong assumption, thus proving that you are a troll
3. you are now after the personal details of the op's life just to justify his purchase
4. you are harrassing the op and mocking his choice (again completely unprovoked). that sort of personal attack is completely uncalled for.

Hopefully this will be a little clearer to you. Should you wish to further your cause against $61+ watches feel free to do it in another thread. Hey I know, why don't you borrow some of your sister's millions and start a movement. get a few petitions going, maybe even ban the sale of watches in this country. Would that satisfy you?

[warpdrive]

I have a $60 watch ...why would i find it overpriced if i bought one for $60 ?y:

???

I said watch *over $60*. Learn to read bud. Thank you come again.

You are obviously insecure enough that you choose to harass other people's choices in a thread that has nothing to do with judgement of watches. Grow up.

[warpdrive]

Poor boy. So many words, such little relevance.

Highly ironic coming from you, the master of irrelevance :rolleyes:

Did you ever answer the original poster's question? Yah, I though so.

[poedua]

You are being a troll and a lousy threadcrapper because:

1. you are attacking (completely unprovoked) the op for his interest and adding comments that have nothing to do with the original topic?

" You are being a troll and a lousy threadcrapper ' - calm down. stroke your watch for comfort , and ease up on the personal attacks will you ? - this a stupid watch we're talking about here.

Again, I said, ........" Obviously, watches mean a great deal more to other people ...that's why people are willing to pony up $500 for a watch to make a fashion or status statement. Different strokes for different folks i guess. " ........ so, he can do what he wants and i said as much. Stop creating something that isn't there........grow up.

No personal attack...i just think anyone who spends $500 for a stupid watch - whether they make $5000 a year or $10,000,000 a year - is spending money foolishly - just my opinion about the target market for these Tags - it simply differs than yours...nothing more.

The OP has pre-sumably worked part-time jobs and summer jobs to earn money to buy this Tag ( I assume ) and I've praised him for that ( i.e kudos )

2. you have admitted to make a wrong assumption, thus proving that you are a troll?


Yes I have.

But, wrong again. Errors in assumptions are not an example of trolling.


3. you are now after the personal details of the op's life just to justify his purchase?


He's offereing up personal details freely , unsolicited , his idea, not mine - it is his perogative to tell us personal facts and it seems he felt personal information was somehow relevant...His quote provided freely by the OP...


" Second, I have nothing better to do than to spoil myself. I'm getting my university education paid for and pretty much everything else paid for except a car."

He likes to spoil himself....presumably because he has worked so very hard to earn the money for a Tag.

4. you are harrassing the op and mocking his choice (again completely unprovoked). that sort of personal attack is completely uncalled for.

I finds his product choice ridiculous - not him - no personal attack - as i've said - the OP, as a person, is likely very hard working - how else does a university student afford to get a $500 Tag if you're not a good person ?????

But when you state " You are being a troll and a lousy threadcrapper because..." - THIS is a personal attack against me - 'walk the talk' if you think personal attacks have no place in threads - stop using attacks yourself - you're being a hypocrite otherwise with zero' credibility :)

You and other Tag devotees can enjoy your $500 Tag ' bargains ' - i'll enjoy my $60 Timex. Live and let live eh ? ...end of debate :)

[warpdrive]

You and other Tag devotees can enjoy your $500 Tag ' bargains ' - i'll enjoy my $60 Timex. Live and let live eh ? ...end of debate :)

My gawd....good riddings....don't come back any time soon. Thank you.

[poedua]

Highly ironic coming from you, the master of irrelevance :rolleyes:

Did you ever answer the original poster's question? Yah, I though so.

Sorry, I take it back....you have no chance of getting a clue

Ouch! A vicious comeback !

You're much to bright for me to debate, that for sure !

You win , I concede !!!! ;)

[poedua]

???

I said watch *over $60*. Learn to read bud. Thank you come again.

You are obviously insecure enough that you choose to harass other people's choices in a thread that has nothing to do with judgement of watches. Grow up.

Again , no contest !

[stealth]

Must make some sense. You agreed. You made my point - thank you.

Spending $500 US on a watch is illogical. I'm glad you agree.

I have lots of $1 watches .....just that none of thoese have gone 5 years yet lioke the Timex has , otherwise I would have mentioned those..only got those about 3 years ago...they'l likely last as long as a Timex, we'll have to wait and see.

Sure its illogical .All luxuries are illogical. I dare to say EVERY piece of jewelry is unnecesary and illogical even, strictly speaking. Poedua, based on your stated sharitable donations, you're a generous guy. How much did you pay for your wife's diamomd ring?
Look at almost everything on RFD, the latest electronics, cell phones, IPODS, video games, designer clothing, etc...Its all unnecessary and frivolous, but we all crave it (just some have different preferences...i.e. the only piece of jewelry I wear is a watch, so I have a few nice ones. On the other hand, my cell phone is the cheapest 1 I could get 5 years ago and I;m still happy with it). We live in a consumer society, where we buy the latest shiny thing and throw out usually a perfectly good working item. Such is life. EVERYONE including yourself, does it, so lets not be hypocriticial. This isnt the USSR circa 1965.

PS. I think I have you all beat on the cheapest watch competition. My favorite and sofar most reliable is a Seiko Chronoraph that my girlfriend's (at the time) sister FOUND on the road...Needed a new strap and I treated myself to a new crystal as the old one had scratches. That was in 1990. I still have it, and other than a having replaced a couple of straps and batteries, it runs and looks great. I like the idea that with a quality piece such as this I'll be able to pass it down to my children someday. Doubt your Timex will be around for that (I know my first Timex sure isnt-that junk was in the shop more often than Paris Hilton).

[warpdrive]

Again , no contest !

No contest is right. You lose.

[poedua]

No contest is right. You lose.

Is that what this about warpdrive ? winning or losing ? You're kidding... right ?

OK, I'll play along...for some reason this is very important to you ....but, no problem ...you win ! :D Congratualtions !!!

I must say you're debating skills are among THE very best I've seen !!!! treat yourself ...hey, maybe buy a new Tag !! You deserve it ! :)

[warpdrive]

OK, I'll play along...for some reason this is very important to you ....but, no problem ...you win ! :D Congratualtions !!!

I must say you're debating skills are among THE very best I've seen !!!! treat

yourself ...hey, maybe buy a new Tag !! You deserve it ! :)

Thanks....now I thought the debate was over....why are you still here?

[poedua]

Thanks....now I thought the debate was over....why are you still here?
:D

[poedua]

Why did you bother to debate?

Your points are meaningless.

It's like arguing over paying $5 for a fish and chip dinner versus, paying $100 for a lobster dinner.

Life is short, try everything and enjoy all it has to offer.. if you want to buy a $1000 watch, go ahead.. but do it for the right reasons. Buy it because it pleases you and makes you proud, not strictly out of consumerism. Buy it so you can take care of it and pass it on to your children.

The problem with purely buying cheap/throwaway items... is that they are cheap and you THROW THEM AWAY! For instance, if you buy quality furniture, you will pay a PRETTY penny for it, and people will question why spend so much, but you will see quality furniture remains and is not simply tossed in the dumpster after a few years.

Well said.

( Actually, hoped to have been on RFD a bit sooner this morning but the damn alarm on my cheap Timex watch didn't go off ! :) )

[farlight]

Out of curiousity, where is the cheapest place to buy a mid-range Tag Heuer especially for a current model? I've heard some say HK but I knew someone who went last October and said deals for luxury goods aren't as good as they used to be. It's not Switzerland or Germany especially at the airports for duty free because I was just there a month ago. Amazon.com and some online US stores seem decent at 30-40% off. The Tag Heuer outlet stores in the US don't seem that great for deals.

I've heard some say the Carribean. Or even in Toronto, at La Swiss at the Eaton Centre on Boxing Day when it's supposedly 40% off everything, Costco or Birks in the middle of the summer when they have an low profile annual clearance sale - though obviously the discount is not as good as when you factor in taxes. Plus these watches are high end enough that aren't sold at smaller deals where you might be able to negotiate a good deal.

[hackslash]

Ya whatever dude.

A high priced watch is a luxury item, which by definition goes beyond basic needs addressed by a cheaper version. So you mean to tell us that if we work hard and make lots of money, we should donate it all away? You mean to tell us if you made good money (say $200,000 a year), you would always drive the cheapest car, live in the smallest house, eat McDonalds, only buy cheap $300 Dells, after all, those just get the job done also...no need to spend any more than that...because those items serve the same function.

Spare us your self-righteous diatribe please.

I would still be eating McDonalds no matter how much money I had.. :lol:

[Bordello]

I would still be eating McDonalds no matter how much money I had.. :lol:
Ditto. Their fries are like crack to me.

Very interesting thread. I always planned on buying a nice watch when I graduate to replace my current Roots one.

And poedua, you've embarrassed yourself pretty badly in this thread. I guess that's what happens when one imposes their judgement on others.

[Sgt_Strider]

And poedua, you've embarrassed yourself pretty badly in this thread. I guess that's what happens when one imposes their judgement on others.

lmao :cheesygri :lol:

[JohnB]

From an horological point of view I see nothing special about modern Tag Heuers. I consider them jewelry store watches, most serious WIS do too.

I could write more about their brand medicority but why bother ? For $500USD maybe a nice Seiko 007k on oyster and pocket the left over $300. With the Seiko you get a robust inhouse 7s26 movt, and the watch isnt pretentious.

Besides you cant get a Tag for $500USD anyways.

If you want to know a good place to buy the Seiko online let me know...

[poedua]

Ditto. Their fries are like crack to me.

Very interesting thread. I always planned on buying a nice watch when I graduate to replace my current Roots one.

And poedua, you've embarrassed yourself pretty badly in this thread. I guess that's what happens when one imposes their judgement on others.

Embarassed ? Not at all. A full time university student needs a $500 USD Tag watch...for school ?

The OP claims to be s a full-time university student who seems to need a $500 USD Tag watch to help him study - for some reason , a simple $50 Timex just won't do. The OP also said, he gets all his 4 years of education paid for by his 'mommy & daddy'.

Why does the OP need a $ 500USD Tag ????? Maybe he's going to be diving to 200 meters on weekends once classes over ..... or maybe he needs a chronograph to make sure he doesn't miss classes ......or he needs a watch to match his suit as a fashion accessory.....or maybe he needs a Tag to impress someone...maybe those are the reasons he needs the quality of a Tag- who knows.

The OP never mentioned who was paying for this watch. If you're out working full-time after school is over , you earn your own bucks - then maybe a Tag is an investment....I can see that too....lot's of reason people will see tag as an investment. In fact, if this OP student is working his butt off at a part time job while he's at school, so he has enough disposable income to drop $500 USD on a Tag after paying for books and lodging - he can do what he wants - go for it.

But if I was his parent - dropping $ 60,000 +/- for my sons to go to 4 years of university - and one of them asked ....."Hey Dad, whow about dishing over $500 USD for a Tag watch ? " ????.

I'd tell him to smarten up and save the Tag for when he's working full - time. - and to grow up. And frankly, if I'm busting my butt as a parent and was dishing out $ 60,000 +/- for his unviersity and i found out he had a part- time job and spent $500 usd of that for a stupid watch???? ...I'd be really pissed. . I'd tell him to buy a Timex instead and either put the remaining $450 towards his education, or perhaps as a token "thank-you "gift to his folks for the $60,000....or better yet..give it to charity. I would hope my kids would have different values.

In a nutshell, spending $500 USD for a Tag watch ( for university ) is just another example of mass consumption, the influence of corporate media hype, and consumerism run amok IMO.

[Bordello]

Embarassed ? Not at all. A full time university student needs a $500 USD Tag watch...for school ?

The OP claims to be s a full-time university student who seems to need a $500 USD Tag watch to help him study - for some reason , a simple $50 Timex just won't do. The OP also said, he gets all his 4 years of education paid for by his 'mommy & daddy.

Why does the OP need a $ 500USD Tag ? Maybe he's going to be diving to 200 meters on weekends once classes over ..... or maybe he needs a chronograph to make sure he doesn't miss classes ......or he needs a watch to match his suit as a fashion accessory.....or maybe he needs to impress someone...maybe those are the reasons he needs the qulaity of a Tag- who knows.

The OP never mentioned who was paying for this watch. If you're out working full-time after school is over , you earn your own bucks - then maybe a Tag is an investment....I can see that too....lot's of reason people will see tag as an investment. In fact, if this OP student is working his butt off at a part time job while he's at school, so he has enough disposable income to drop $500 USD on a Tag after paying for books and lodging - he can do what he wants - go for it.

But if I was his parent - dropping $ 60,000 +/- for my sons to go to 4 years of university - and one of them asked ....."Hey Dad, whow about dishing over $500 USD for a Tag watch ? " ????..I'd tell him to smarten up and save the Tag for when he's working full - time. - and to grow up. And frankly, if i busting my butt and was dishing out $ 60,000 +/- for his unviersity and i found out he had a part- time job and spent $500 usd of that for a stupoid watch???? ...I'd be really pissed. . I'd tell him to buy a Timex and either put the remaining $450 towards his education, perhaps as token "thank-you "gift to his folks for the $60,000 gift to his folks ,,,or better yet..give it to charity.

A $500 USD Tag for univesity is mass consumption and consumerism run amok IMO.

As for your closing remark...." you've embarrassed yourself pretty badly in this thread. I guess that's what happens when one imposes their judgement on others " - I find it uttely ironic coming from you. You were relentless on the election threads passing your judgement about the merits of the Conservative Party, it's plaltform and leader and villfying Liberlas, Martin & Liberal supporters like myself.

You also imposed your judgement on others in these threads - in spades. So any shot at me, from you, regarding any impostion of judgement is a little like the pot calling the kettle black...hypocritical and worthless. :)

Grow up.
Wow, the embarrassment continues for you. First of all, the OP was merely asking about a watch, he doesn't need for someone to chime in saying that he should stick to Timex and donate his money to charity. So what if he's only a university student and he is able to afford a $500 watch. It's pretty funny that it bothers you so much, since you insist on bringing it up over and over again in this thread. Jealousy is not a pretty colour. Don't bother trying to smear me, because anyone who reads this thread can see for themselves what a pathetic person you are.

[poedua]

Ditto. Their fries are like crack to me.

Very interesting thread. I always planned on buying a nice watch when I graduate to replace my current Roots one.

And poedua, you've embarrassed yourself pretty badly in this thread. I guess that's what happens when one imposes their judgement on others.

Furrther to your closing remark...." you've embarrassed yourself pretty badly in this thread. I guess that's what happens when one imposes their judgement on others " - I find that observation uttely ironic coming from you. You were relentless on the election threads passing your judgement about the merits of the Conservative Party, it's platform and leader Harper and villfying Liberals, Martin & Liberal supporters like myself. Somehow you seemed to think YOUR judgement was not only relevant , but attacking opposing views a reasonable thing to do.

Your comment about my impostion of judgement is a little like the pot calling the kettle black...it's hypocritical and worthless. So, unless you are prepared to claim you have never imposed your judgement any other poster on RFD , I suggest you stop with the hypocritical comments and grow up.

Spend your time ( excuse the pun ) on more useful pursuits ...perhaps there's a Tag around somewhere that's needs cleaning. :)

[mingming]

Whats going on here?

If he can afford a Tag watch, let him buy it. Yes of course a Timex is good enough for a watch, but we all have our interests, we like certain things to make us feel happy. The same can be said for clothes, cars, food, etc.

If OP feels he deserves a Tag watch, and is financially feasible, by all means, buy one. I'll even help you get one!!!

Many people have many interests and fanatics, like collectors, gadget fanatics, etc.

I for one am a gadget fanatic, so i might spend a bit more on those types of things. ipod, cell phone, camera, laptops, etc. Can I do with a $50 mp3 player, a free cell phone that came with a plan, or a old school film camera? Of course, but my interests in those things make me buy them.

However, Am I broke? NO. Can I still afford tuition/housing? YES, but barely.

[TRK9]

Costco sell TAGs starting at $750.....

The also have Movado's in the $1000s...

---
Spend your money, stimulate the economy... help people work so that they don't need the charity.

[poedua]

Whats going on here?

If he can afford a Tag watch, let him buy it. Yes of course a Timex is good enough for a watch, but we all have our interests, we like certain things to make us feel happy. The same can be said for clothes, cars, food, etc.

If OP feels he deserves a Tag watch, and is financially feasible, by all means, buy one. I'll even help you get one!!!

Many people have many interests and fanatics, like collectors, gadget fanatics, etc.

I for one am a gadget fanatic, so i might spend a bit more on those types of things. ipod, cell phone, camera, laptops, etc. Can I do with a $50 mp3 player, a free cell phone that came with a plan, or a old school film camera? Of course, but my interests in those things make me buy them.

However, Am I broke? NO. Can I still afford tuition/housing? YES, but barely.

I disagree.

On the affordability issue - and, I'm taking this view as one of his parents who is footing the bill for his 4 years of his education that may run $60,000 /+-.

If he is a university student , and i am paying for his 4 years of univeristy.? If he can still afford to buy a TAG due to a part-time job,? Well then , you know what? He can afford to pay for some of his education too,

Even if only as a token gesture..use the $ 500 USD to pay for books, pay for meals etc. ...pay for something to show some repsonsibility and not some sense of entitlement. As a parent, you buy stuff your kid needs in university...things that you "have to have '...as a parent, i don't mind paying for stuff like that. But as a parent, I'm not spending money on blings - Tags IMO - that are simply a "nice to have ".

Why should I as a parent, fork over $60,000 so he can blow $500 USD on a stupid watch ? Why should I have to forgo things in order to come up with $60,000 and yet my kid should not forgo things ( i.e a Tag ) as well in order to allocate money where it is most needed - regardless of where the money for the Tag came from ?

And, if his "mommy & daddy " have forked over $60,000 for school and somehow this largesse isn't enuf .....NOW ......he wants "mommy & daddy " to buy him a $500 USD Tag watch , because he needs it, or worse yet, if he simply "wants it "????

Well then, if that is the case ( and I have no way of knowing if it is or not ) this kid is a nothing more than a spoiled brat IMO.

[warpdrive]

I disagree.

On the affordability issue - and, I'm taking this view as one of his parents who is footing the bill for his 4 years of his education that may run $60,000 /+-

LOL....now we have anonymous RFD's actings as parents for posters looking for product advice. He was just looking to understand a particular product, not get some lecture about how to spend money.

This is why your posts have been so ridiculous from the beginning.

[poedua]

LOL....now we have anonymous RFD's actings as parents for posters looking for product advice. He was just looking to understand a particular product, not get some lecture about how to spend money.

This is why your posts have been so ridiculous from the beginning.

Yup ....my posts are ridiculous. You're bang on. " :)

Lecturing people" is usually only limted to the some political threads & sports threads - and some who don't even ask for advice ( US/ Iraq / Harper threads ) to boot - got figure.

And guess what, a kid in university who get 4 years of university (paid by his folks) ..that somehow needs a $500 USD Tag watch so he won't be late for class ?

If you want to describe something "so ridiiculous".......THAT would be a good place to start IMO.....any parents ( like myself ) busting their ass to pay full frieght for a kids's 4 years of school would have a tuf time justifying anyone dropping $750 for a Tag while in school while on "mommy & daddys'" tab IMO.
Now if you don't think that a university kid wanting a $750 Tag watch is ridiculous...you're entitled to your opinion too...I just think it's nuts.

As a parent, you try an teach your kids some sense of repsonsiblity as they grow up and to have them set priorities.......that's just my view of parenting as a father of 4 kids under 16. ...but i see how don't dropping $ 750 on a Tag watch while in univesity does any of that. :)

[warpdrive]

maybe a more valuable skill is to learn how to stay on topic, which you still have no idea how to do. So annoying.

[poedua]

maybe a more valuable skill is to learn how to stay on topic, which you still have no idea how to do. So annoying.

Not as annoying as seeing a kid readily accept the generosity of 4 years of school paid for by his folks, only to then turn around and see him seek advice on where to grab a $750 Tag watch that he now needs for school.

So annoying. :)

[konfusion666]

Not as annoying as seeing a kid readily accept the generosity of 4 years of school paid for by his folks, only to then turn around and see him seek advice on where to grab a $750 Tag watch that he now needs for school.


did the original poster actually admit that his folks were indeed paying for his entire education, or did you just make this assumption? it seems the length of this thread is predicated upon his studies being pre-paid and the kid taking some of that money to pay for a "luxury" item...

[warpdrive]

Not as annoying as seeing a kid readily accept the generosity of 4 years of school paid for by his folks, only to then turn around...........
Only if it was actually your business to begin with...which is it not, and never should be.

[poedua]

Only if it was actually your business to begin with...which is it not, and never should be.

If people don't want to run the risk that ' their business ' becomes ' anyone else's ' business...I'd suggest posting comments on a public forum is not the best way to go about it. Your contention that one shoudn't express personal "unsolcited " opinions about other peoples views on any topic on RFD seems a bit much....that's why it's called a forum after all. :)

But as an aside, if you were a parent - paying all the costs of for your son's 4 years of unviversity , would you have any issue if he wanted to get a $750 Tag watch just to wear around campus ?

[mingming]

Agreed with the part about asking parents to get him a TAG watch. I know myself I wouldnt ask my parents for anything that excessive. My ipods, psp, watches, gadgets, etc. Have been all paid by myself. So I can understand why people will want these kinds of "wants".

I know myself I really want a car, but never will I ask my parents for a car, nor will they ever buy me a car. I can only accept it that way. I will give myself even more self respect if I earned my own $ to buy my own car. It might not be the $50K BMW I want, but the feeling of accomplishment will be even greater if I can afford my own $20K Civic.

But if someone cant afford it, or have no reason to ask for it unless it's a bday, xmas, etc. Then these people should find alternatives, or make money for it.

But what else other than media, corporate imagery influence us in what is the newest trend in clothing, gadgets, styles, cars, etc. Friends, a bit as well. We dont look at our parents for the latest fashion trends, that would be quite scary. So we turn to the media that pink is the new black, blazers are in, etc. Without influence, we would all be still wearing the baggy jeans and sweatshirts for the rest of our lives.

For poedua, a watch just needs to tell time. So he goes for a Timex. But what about other interests? If you like hockey, are you satisfied with going to watch a Marlies game or would u rather goto a Leafs game? Or if you are in TV's, would u be satisfied with just buying a standard curve screen 27", or would u rather have that plasma. It's these interests and goals in attaining these obsessions that drive us to earn the most $ we can in order to obtain these.

[jedijome]

just go to hongkong/china and get yourself a high quality fake.

:lol:

a friend of mine has a rolex he got from china that looks idential to a $6000 oyster his boss has. they look identical except for some tiny rough edges that the fake has.

[poedua]

just go to hongkong/china and get yourself a high quality fake.

:lol:

a friend of mine has a rolex he got from china that looks idential to a $6000 oyster his boss has. they look identical except for some tiny rough edges that the fake has.

How much would a "fake ' $ 750 Tag be do you think ? $ 100 or so ?

[jedijome]

lol i don't know anything about fake watches. i always thought they'd be 10 bucks or something.

[FearSonic]

Nice watches are always great to have because everyone thinks they look great.

*hugs his Omega*

[Bordello]

Only if it was actually your business to begin with...which is it not, and never should be.
Yes, poedua seems to think that it's his perogative to guide people on the right path of consumption even though they never asked for it in the first place. Poedua, no matter how you justify your butting in, it's still none of your business. I really hope that this discussion ends and we get back on topic.

[warpdrive]

Yes, poedua seems to think that it's his perogative to guide people on the right path of consumption even though they never asked for it in the first place. Poedua, no matter how you justify your butting in, it's still none of your business. I really hope that this discussion ends and we get back on topic.

A point that, for some inconceivable reason, he still has trouble understanding. For some reason, we have to listen to his value judgements on how other people want to spend money. The subtle art of actually staying on topic is something beyond his comprehension.

[warpdrive]

just go to hongkong/china and get yourself a high quality fake.

:lol:

a friend of mine has a rolex he got from china that looks idential to a $6000 oyster his boss has. they look identical except for some tiny rough edges that the fake has.

A *really* good quality fake costs good money. The best fakes that would fool an expert costs as much as $600 and they usually come from Europe, not China.

[warpdrive]

just go to hongkong/china and get yourself a high quality fake.

:lol:

a friend of mine has a rolex he got from china that looks idential to a $6000 oyster his boss has. they look identical except for some tiny rough edges that the fake has.

A *really* good quality fake costs good money. The best fakes that would fool an expert costs as much as $600 and they usually come from Europe, not China. I've seen the China fakes and they are a dead giveaway if you know the real thing.

[R23]

$ 500 US for a watch ?????? You've got to be kidding ...run out of things to spend money on ? I hope you gave just as much to charity this year.....$ 500 for a simple watch to tell me what time is ??????......buying a watch is about the 800th in rank of what I'd spend $500 on !!!!! Must ne nice to have money to burn.

What does this Tag do that a normal watch doesn't do...sit up and bark ?

Got my Timex about 5 years ago or more ....$60....still works like a charm. Can anybody beat that ?????

PT Barnum was right.......

"There's a sucker born every minute"

I just think spending $500 for a stupid watch is a 'sucker"play in my book ...no insult......he can buy what he wants......

I dare anyone on this Forum to do better than my $60 for my Timex still humming along after 5 years !!!!



man you're a dumbass.

your $60 timex, which buddy, dont think thats super cheap, cuz to some that would be stupid when you can go to the flee market and get one for $20, youre spending three times more for what, the timex company.

anyway, i got a $100 guess watch, so im not too far off your timex price, but would i buy a tag heuer or jacob or something if i had the appropriate funds for a watch, hell ya.
and if you think $500 is unbelievable for a watch, you're trapped in a narrow view of the world. mabey add 1 or 2 zeros for some people and thats what they sport, but why would i hate on them, theyre lucky.

and if you had the money and you'd rather spend it on some hillbilly pickup truck or something then go for it, no ones hating on ya.

trust me, i worked the grime jobs and i paid for my watch, i know how hard it is to make money, but when you got that money, and you sport that watch its not just a watch, it makes the person feel good, and isnt that what good clothes/jewellery, etc is about?

man there's some ignorant people up in here.

and ps, i got a $35 timex digital in 1995 and its still perfectly fine, so why you wasting an extra 25 on that pos?

[poedua]

man you're a dumbass.?


No need for personal attacks....grow up.


anyway, i got a $100 guess watch, so im not too far off your timex price, but would i buy a tag heuer or jacob or something if i had the appropriate funds for a watch, hell ya.
and if you think $500 is unbelievable for a watch, you're trapped in a narrow view of the world. mabey add 1 or 2 zeros for some people and thats what they sport, but why would i hate on them, theyre lucky..?


I just think $750 is a lot to expect any kid's parents to pay for a watch especially if someone's folks are picking up the tab for all most all for 4 years of university.....

OR ......it's also a lot to spend while at school even if the any kid earns the money himself - just to tell time - especially when someone''s folks are picking up the tab for 4 years of university..

My suggestion for any kid thinking of dropping $750 just to tell time at school - , by a $20 timex ...save the remaining $730 and get the parents a nice Xmas gift or something ....just a token "thank you "for busting their ass to pay his way thru school.

Now if the kid pays his own way thru school - 100% of the cost...and he still has $750 left over to fork over for a Tag - I have no problem with that.

[Bordello]

I just think $750 is a lot to expect any kid's parents to pay for a watch especially if someone's folks are picking up the tab for all most all for 4 years of university.....

OR ......it's also a lot to spend while at school even if the any kid earns the money himself - just to tell time - especially when someone''s folks are picking up the tab for 4 years of university..

My suggestion for any kid thinking of dropping $750 just to tell time at school - , by a $20 timex ...save the remaining $730 and get the parents a nice Xmas gift or something ....just a token "thank you "for busting their ass to pay his way thru school.

Now if the kid pays his own way thru school - 100% of the cost...and he still has $750 left over to fork over for a Tag - I have no problem with that.
Give it up already. Nobody cares what you think. Repeating the same message over and over again isn't going to change that.


...grow up.
I can say the same to you. Apparantly age and maturity don't neccessarily correlate.

[poedua]

Give it up already. Nobody cares what you think. Repeating the same message over and over again isn't going to change that.



I can say the same to you. Apparantly age and maturity don't neccessarily correlate.

Your posts are getting better and better...and less credible :)

I do find it a bit hypocritical that you - of all people - would suggest "age and maturity don't neccessarily correlate "...the level of ( lack of ) maturity used in some fo your respsonse to Liberals supporters during the political threads speak for themselves IMO.

...perhaps the sort of maturity that prompts one to resort to " toilet humour " in order to express ones''self. By the way........ I noticed you changed your avatar from your previous one in which you showed the phrase.... "ASS GOES HERE " on a role of toilet paper.

That one just 'reeked" of maturity. They say a picture's worth a thousand words - when it came to that previous avatar of yours...I agree. :)

[warpdrive]

Your posts are getting better and better...and less credible :)

LOL....look at all the posts in this thread that disagree with you. Talk about lack of credibility.

[poedua]

did the original poster actually admit that his folks were indeed paying for his entire education, or did you just make this assumption? it seems the length of this thread is predicated upon his studies being pre-paid and the kid taking some of that money to pay for a "luxury" item...

I claimed he never stated how he was going to pay for the Tag.....and admitted so earlier when I said " I have no way of knowing if it [ parents paying for the Tag and school ] is or not "

All we DO know is that "mommy and daddy 'are paying for all his university...and as the recipient of this generosity this student he feels the need to get a $750 Tag watch while studying at university ..and sought advice on buying one.

[Bordello]

You still don't see anything wrong with what you're doing? That's definitely a sign of maturity. And you say you're a parent? I feel for your children if this is the way you act.

Your posts are getting better and better...and less credible :)

I do find it a bit hypocritical that you - of all people - would suggest "age and maturity don't neccessarily correlate "...the level of ( lack of ) maturity used in some fo your respsonse to Liberals supporters during the political threads speak for themselves IMO.

...perhaps the sort of maturity that prompts one to resort to " toilet humour " in order to express ones''self. By the way........ I noticed you changed your avatar from your previous one in which you showed the phrase.... "ASS GOES HERE " on a role of toilet paper.

That one just 'reeked" of maturity. They say a picture's worth a thousand words - when it came to that previous avatar of yours...I agree. :)


LOL....look at all the posts in this thread that disagree with you. Talk about lack of credibility.
Yeah, somehow poedua takes all the disagreeing posts as encouragement to repeat his message.

[poedua]

LOL....look at all the posts in this thread that disagree with you. Talk about lack of credibility.

I disagree with you :)

Immature posts aren't limited to myself .....I've read Bordello's many other posts in other threads....I've got plenty of examples.

As for credibility, i'm busting my ass off to pay for my 4 kids 'university education too...which could very well run me over $200,000 ...so, trust me.....I have all the credibility in the world to express my opinion.....and that is, to say, that no university student needs a $750 Tag watch ( just so he won't be late for class. ) IMO.

By the way warpdrive, you never answered my earlier question to you - would you as a parent take issue with a kid of yours wanting / buying a Tag watch while you foot the whole 4 year tab for their education ?

I say YES, I'd take issue with it - big time.

What do you say. YES / NO ?

[poedua]

You still don't see anything wrong with what you're doing? That's definitely a sign of maturity. And you say you're a parent? I feel for your children if this is the way you act.





Yeah, somehow poedua takes all the disagreeing posts as encouragement to repeat his message.

When is expressing an opinion wrong ?

You and I have both done it Bordello - and in a variety of ways. And, we both have provided unsolicited opinions that are both on and off topic.

I suggest you get off your high horse on judging other people''s posts - as though your posts for the past 6 weeks have been the pillar of integrity and maturity - they're anything but.

Would you as a parent take issue with a kid of yours wanting / buying a Tag watch for $ 750 while you foot the whole 4 year tab for their education ?

I say YES, I'd take issue with it - big time.

What do you say. YES / NO ?

[Steeve Urkel]

Well,
I think their are some advantages to buying a somewhat more xpensive watch.
I bought one that has a saphire crystal for the watch face.

After having 4 lower priced watches break, and 2 of them were somewhat expensive swatch models---one got waterlogged after 1 week in humid weather?

I ended up buying a watch at Birks for the service and battery replacement for life.
So, now if I need to replace the crystal if it happens to crack or need new batteries I don't have to worry about that.

I've has my watch 6 years, bought it as a student. It has taken alot of abuse and still looks brand new.

none of my "cheap" watches under 50 have lsted nearly as long.

[Steeve Urkel]

I claimed he never stated how he was going to pay for the Tag.....and admitted so earlier when I said " I have no way of knowing if it [ parents paying for the Tag and school ] is or not "

All we DO know is that "mommy and daddy 'are paying for all his university...and as the recipient of this generosity this student he feels the need to get a $750 Tag watch while studying at university ..and sought advice on buying one.

I don't see anything entirely "wromg" with a student getting an expensive watch.
My parents helped me pay for school and I bought an expensive watch while still in school.
I've had the same watch for about 8 or 9 years already and it is a nice classic model I plan on keeping forever!

as long as you're not buying a watch for the trend of it.
then again, I had a job while I was in school.....

[Bordello]

When is expressing an opinion wrong ?

You and I have both done it Bordello - and in a variety of ways. And, we both have provided unsolicited opinions that are both on and off topic.

I suggest you get off your high horse on judging other people''s posts - as though your posts for the past 6 weeks have been the pillar of integrity and maturity - they're anything but.

Would you as a parent take issue with a kid of yours wanting / buying a Tag watch for $ 750 while you foot the whole 4 year tab for their education ?

I say YES, I'd take issue with it - big time.

What do you say. YES / NO ?
Let's make this clear. There's noting wrong with expressing your opinion, but when someone never asked for it in the first place, and when you insist on repeating it over and over again even though the OP clearly has no interest in it, that is wrong.

I find it amusing that you like to smear me and my posts and try to paint me as someone who is down to your level. I highly doubt anyone who reads the stuff you've posted in this thread to think very highly of you. Whatever credibility you've had has vaporized in the first page.

With that said, I will dignify your question with a response, however ignorant and small-minded it may be. I do plan on paying completely for my child's secondary education. I'll also give him or her some auxillary funds to do whatever he would like with it. If he does spend it on an expensive watch, I'll be fine with it. Actually, I'll be happy that he purchase the watch instead of blowing it on alcohol and clubbing. With a nice watch, he'll have it hopefully for the rest of his life. The watch might even serve as a memento of his days in school.

It's pretty funny that you can't give this up.

[Sgt_Strider]

Embarassed ? Not at all. A full time university student needs a $500 USD Tag watch...for school ?

The OP claims to be s a full-time university student who seems to need a $500 USD Tag watch to help him study - for some reason , a simple $50 Timex just won't do. The OP also said, he gets all his 4 years of education paid for by his 'mommy & daddy'.

Why does the OP need a $ 500USD Tag ????? Maybe he's going to be diving to 200 meters on weekends once classes over ..... or maybe he needs a chronograph to make sure he doesn't miss classes ......or he needs a watch to match his suit as a fashion accessory.....or maybe he needs a Tag to impress someone...maybe those are the reasons he needs the quality of a Tag- who knows.

The OP never mentioned who was paying for this watch. If you're out working full-time after school is over , you earn your own bucks - then maybe a Tag is an investment....I can see that too....lot's of reason people will see tag as an investment. In fact, if this OP student is working his butt off at a part time job while he's at school, so he has enough disposable income to drop $500 USD on a Tag after paying for books and lodging - he can do what he wants - go for it.

But if I was his parent - dropping $ 60,000 +/- for my sons to go to 4 years of university - and one of them asked ....."Hey Dad, whow about dishing over $500 USD for a Tag watch ? " ????.

I'd tell him to smarten up and save the Tag for when he's working full - time. - and to grow up. And frankly, if I'm busting my butt as a parent and was dishing out $ 60,000 +/- for his unviersity and i found out he had a part- time job and spent $500 usd of that for a stupid watch???? ...I'd be really pissed. . I'd tell him to buy a Timex instead and either put the remaining $450 towards his education, or perhaps as a token "thank-you "gift to his folks for the $60,000....or better yet..give it to charity. I would hope my kids would have different values.

In a nutshell, spending $500 USD for a Tag watch ( for university ) is just another example of mass consumption, the influence of corporate media hype, and consumerism run amok IMO.

Man, get this to your head already. If my folks are able to finance my activities, then you should accept it as is. What I want to do with my money is none of your business, none whatsoever. If my parents are able to buy me a Lexus IS250 or w/e I want, then that's to my benefit and not yours. Either way, you're not going to benefit from this.

Different families have different income levels. I'm just fortunate enough to have a family that is able to finance some of the things that other people just can't get until they get out into the real world. I'm sure Bill Gates spoil his kids and gets them stuff I can't even imagine of getting now. Am I jealous? Not really because I can accept reality as is.

[Sgt_Strider]

Hey guys, I appreciate the defence that you're providing for me. I would hate to have a parent like poedua. I guess he doesn't understand that in a capitalistic economy like Canada produce families that have different income levels.

Honestly, I hate people that puts their nose into my business. I never started this thread bragging about what I can afford or how "lucky" I am. I just wanted to ask some questions about Tag Heuer watches. I met people like Poedua in high school and elementary and honestly I often look down on them. They're extremely annoying and can't accept things as is.

[Anessa]

So did you end up getting a Tag?

[fireguy9]

I have always wanted a tag watch. I am 39 doing well in life,,, and finally found a good deal on a tag this past summer. The tag link sells currently at costco for $1600, and in U.S $900,, I managed to get a 1yr old trade in for $500. These I compare to luxury cars,,,,, you have timex, and other brands which are your north american cars and tag is your european porsche, mercedes category. THey also last.

I have burned out probably 4 timex watches in the last 6yrs at over $50 each,, Tags go forever

[CanadaSweetheart]

Wow - what a thread... I see this is virtually dead now but thought I would add my 2 cents.

I bought my husband a Tag Aquaracer earlier this year.. and yes, they cost a small fortune (I think about 3K) however, I bought it at Birks so paid about $500 more than jewellery stores, just for the great warranty and service options. (I got it at the Eaton Centre in Toronto and you can really negotiate with the small jewellers there, even tho I didn't end up buying from them)

One point I wanted to make is that while the self-winding (automatic) watches are beautiful examples of great craftmanship (which I why my husband wanted it) they do NOT keep accurate time, even with daily wear. Any 5 dollar watch is going to keep better time and if this is important to you, buy a quartz. Just something to keep in mind if you're going to invest in a nice watch (and I DO say invest because this is something you can keep in your family for many years to come) make sure you consider all the possibilities..

[stephen1]

Looking to buy:
Formula One Gents Chronograph
Model: CAH1110.BA0850

http://www.orolus.com/cgi-bin/ShoppingCart.cgi?action=ShowPic&search_for=CAH1110.BA0850

Anyone know where to buy this watch in Toronto for a good price? I've seen this watch sell for $750 online on US websites. But would like to stick to Toronto stores or Canadian websites, fearing the extra duty costs. So far I've been to Loro Jewelery, selling for $1100. Looking for under $750-950 range.

[ZeCheeseMasterQC]

man you're a dumbass.

I agree, poedua should just shut up and keep her Salvation Army for herself. Consequently I can say that raising 4 kids is an even bigger waste of money, and instead buy not buy a PC that can run The Sims? It would be much cheaper.

[papermate]

i will never wear a watch thanks to tiny wrists.

[burnt_toast]

i will never wear a watch thanks to tiny wrists.

get a small watch

[rageous]

My 'mommy and daddy' got me a watch when I first started post secondary. It's an Omega Seamaster. It was never intended to become an 'heirloom', the time does fluctuate as the day goes, I don't scuba dive, and it cost a whopping $2600.00 at the time (10 years ago). I just wanted a baller watch and I liked this one.

$2600, 10 years, no additional servicing, and it's still 'humming strong'

Does it make a buyer a 'sucker'? Depends on your point of view. However, every morning when I tie up my LV tie, put on my cufflinks, slide into those leather seats of my car and and check the time on my seamaster, I feel great.

Who cares what other ppl think. No matter what you give/do/say/recieve in life, for every 5 ppl impressed there's another 5 ppl unimpressed. Yo, if shameless consumerism and superficiality is your thing, then get it. It's defintiely my thing! lol.

[Nikita]

Wow - what a thread... I see this is virtually dead now but thought I would add my 2 cents.

I bought my husband a Tag Aquaracer earlier this year.. and yes, they cost a small fortune (I think about 3K) however, I bought it at Birks so paid about $500 more than jewellery stores, just for the great warranty and service options. (I got it at the Eaton Centre in Toronto and you can really negotiate with the small jewellers there, even tho I didn't end up buying from them)

One point I wanted to make is that while the self-winding (automatic) watches are beautiful examples of great craftmanship (which I why my husband wanted it) they do NOT keep accurate time, even with daily wear. Any 5 dollar watch is going to keep better time and if this is important to you, buy a quartz. Just something to keep in mind if you're going to invest in a nice watch (and I DO say invest because this is something you can keep in your family for many years to come) make sure you consider all the possibilities..

One watch not keeping perfect time is hardly sufficient to say a $5 watch keeps better time than all Tags. Perhaps yours just needs a cleaning or an adjustment or some repairs. Cuz you're just wrong!

[tweetie]

One watch not keeping perfect time is hardly sufficient to say a $5 watch keeps better time than all Tags. Perhaps yours just needs a cleaning or an adjustment or some repairs. Cuz you're just wrong!

I respectfully disagree - it is well known that a battery operated/quartz watch will keep better time than an automatic/self-winding type of watch like Rolex. This is something that can be confirmed I'm sure on some watch sites, and certainly from my own personal experience. I've been slowly upgrading my watches over the years and hands down, my battery operated Movados and Omegas kept better time than the Rolex I wear now. However, the mechanics to make an automatic movement are much more complex, which is where the money goes towards. A battery powered watch is much simpler, and therefore, much cheaper, for the same level of materials, within the same brand line. Cleaning can help, but it will never be as accurate.