Hot Deal!? ~ MDG Horizon 3000 3GHz 17LCD Desktop $699 ~

[Dimos]

Hi all, I'm a new RFD member so to start things off, here's my first post which I found **very hot** for those of you looking for a complete desktop package. Now before I make the decision to buy this, I compared this system to what they sell at BestBuy, Futureshop,etc. and there's no comparison in terms of price. You'll be paying at least $300 more from those guys as opposed to MDG.

* Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor (3.06GHz, 1MB L2 Cache, 533MHz FSB)
* Microsoft® Windows® XP Home
* Genuine Intel® Motherboard
* 512MB Kingston DDR Memory
* Western Digital® 120GB SATA 7200RPM Hard Drive
* Radeon X300SE 256MB Hypermemory - Free Upgrade to Graphics Media Accelerator 900 - World Class Graphics
* 17" LCD Monitor
* DVD Burner
* Genuine Microsoft® Wireless Keyboard and Mouse
* High Definition Audio
* Microsoft® 2005 Software Bundle ($440 Value)

* Price: 699.00 + tax = 803.85
Now that's a tempting deal, you couldn't ask for more. Just the Microsoft keyboard and mouse is worth at least $70-90 I think. Plus you get 3 months of free internet from the ISP of your choice (Bell, rogers,etc). The deal sweetener is the 17" LCD monitor and the fact that it's a whopping 3GHz intel. I need to buy one of these for my aunt (she needs a desktop pc with lcd monitor).

My only small question is to get the final confirmation from someone who has bought MDG. They look like a big Canadian company (from the ad) with almost 30 locations. What's their quality / customer service / reliability / upgradability etc,etc? I'm gonna pay their store a visit tomorrow.

[tigger03]

DO NOT BUY MDG!!!

Read several posts in the Computers thread.

[JackyTheBeaver]

Oh boy ...

Before anyone else comment on the "quality" (or lack there of) of MDG computers, I actually want to make a comment on the following advertised item.

"* Radeon X300SE 256MB Hypermemory - Free Upgrade to Graphics Media Accelerator 900 - World Class Graphics"

Whow these guys call Intel Media Accelerator 900 "world class graphics"? And they consider it a "free upgrade" over a dedicated Radeon X300SE that does not take memory away from main system? Do they even know what they are talking about?

[prying eyes]

I'm gonna pay their store a visit tomorrow.

For sure....best of luck..with ur visit and congrats as the proud owner of the new MDG system.

NB: Even if you are newbie, I thot u knew how 2 use search button. Try searching for the name MDG
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7462/untitled2sk.jpg

[tomtomtom]

FYI: the XP CD key coming w/ the computer isn't legit.

[itsyours]

Oh boy ...

Before anyone else comment on the "quality" (or lack there of) of MDG computers, I actually want to make a comment on the following advertised item.

"* Radeon X300SE 256MB Hypermemory - Free Upgrade to Graphics Media Accelerator 900 - World Class Graphics"

Whow these guys call Intel Media Accelerator 900 "world class graphics"? And they consider it a "free upgrade" over a dedicated Radeon X300SE that does not take memory away from main system? Do they even know what they are talking about?
Only you don't know. They do. Their price included the mediocre X300 SE video card but they want to trick people into buying the intergrated video so they can use the cheaper MB and save the video card too. For people knowing computers a little bit, they will say: Well, my system even has a dedicated video card, you see! One stone, two birds. Who said they are not smart? :cheesygri

[masterhapposai]

DO NOT BUY MDG!!!

Read several posts in the Computers thread.

yOU DARE QUESTION STEVE NASH'S APPROVAL OF MDG?

jk

dont buy from them!

[masterhapposai]

Hi all, I'm a new RFD member so to start things off, here's my first post which I found **very hot** for those of you looking for a complete desktop package. Now before I make the decision to buy this, I compared this system to what they sell at BestBuy, Futureshop,etc. and there's no comparison in terms of price. You'll be paying at least $300 more from those guys as opposed to MDG.

* Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor (3.06GHz, 1MB L2 Cache, 533MHz FSB)
* Microsoft® Windows® XP Home
* Genuine Intel® Motherboard
* 512MB Kingston DDR Memory
* Western Digital® 120GB SATA 7200RPM Hard Drive
* Radeon X300SE 256MB Hypermemory - Free Upgrade to Graphics Media Accelerator 900 - World Class Graphics
* 17" LCD Monitor
* DVD Burner
* Genuine Microsoft® Wireless Keyboard and Mouse
* High Definition Audio
* Microsoft® 2005 Software Bundle ($440 Value)

* Price: 699.00 + tax = 803.85
Now that's a tempting deal, you couldn't ask for more. Just the Microsoft keyboard and mouse is worth at least $70-90 I think. Plus you get 3 months of free internet from the ISP of your choice (Bell, rogers,etc). The deal sweetener is the 17" LCD monitor and the fact that it's a whopping 3GHz intel. I need to buy one of these for my aunt (she needs a desktop pc with lcd monitor).

My only small question is to get the final confirmation from someone who has bought MDG. They look like a big Canadian company (from the ad) with almost 30 locations. What's their quality / customer service / reliability / upgradability etc,etc? I'm gonna pay their store a visit tomorrow.

mods check the IP, sounds like a MDG employee

convenient to appear a week or so after the Viewsonic thread where they visited it many times

Im sure they're supposed to pay for space like this

but looks like he checked out WoW a month ago, so has good aliby for visiting/asking. just the post is too well worded in favour of MDG

[jamewoong]

I can tell you guys that I was going to buy this MDG... But as the review is -, then I think I'd better stay out of their stuff...

Don't know if it's a good decision, but as my exp in PC is less than your, so I'll stay with you. ;)

[ttt]

hot deals from mdg? :lol: :lol: :lol:

[bug]

I know someone who works at MDG. I'm so ashamed :( That's reason enough for me not to shop there :lol:

[itsyours]

Another trick: Where in the world they can find a X300 SE with 256MB RAM?
They surely will give you a 128MB one and set it at 256MB in the BIOS. I bet if the BIOS has option for 500 MB (not 512MB because their system RAM only 512MB), they wouldn't mind to advertise X300 SE hypermemory 500 MB RAM too.

[gilboman]

MDG "deals" are just like those nigerian scams only MDG is worse since they take your money and continue to make your live miserable

[thendless]

Wow... this is the worst stealth post ever

I found this line amusing:

"Now that's a tempting deal, you couldn't ask for more. Just the Microsoft keyboard and mouse is worth at least $70-90 I think."

HAHAHAHAHHA

[itsyours]

mods check the IP, sounds like a MDG employee

convenient to appear a week or so after the Viewsonic thread where they visited it many times

Im sure they're supposed to pay for space like this

but looks like he checked out WoW a month ago, so has good aliby for visiting/asking. just the post is too well worded in favour of MDG
I have that thought too. I've checked his profile. This guy disappeared only minutes after posting. Normal guys will hang around seeking opinions.
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RFD gang, be prepared for the spams, attacks from MDG! :D

[Siefer999]

did the op bs the specs on this thing? its always been a celeron that comes with that 699 system but the mdg ad always says "intel processor" and avoids mentioning it

[itsyours]

I don't know, but there is an Intel® Celeron® D Processor 345, running at 3.06 GHz on a 533MHz FSB but of course with 256 KB cache.
and there is an Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 519K with EM64T (3.06GHz, 1MB L2 cache, 533MHz FSB)

[kaddy69]

http://www.shafted.com.au/photos/albums/funnies/b/normal_BanHim.jpg

[spol]

I vote for banning any MDG deal in the HOT DEALS section


BACK ME UP

[Siefer999]

closest thing i see on their website is:
http://www.mdg.ca/en/store/offer.asp?offer=3
* Intel® Processor 3.06GHz
* Microsoft® Windows® XP Home
* Genuine Intel® Motherboard
* 512MB Kingston® DDR Memory
* Western Digital® 120GB SATA Hard Drive
* 17" LCD Monitor
* Genuine Microsoft® Keyboard and Mouse
* 3D Audio Sound and 3D Video
* DVDRW - Burn your own movies
* Microsoft® 2005 Software Bundle ($440 Value)
* Free Rogers Hi-Speed Cable Offer
* Free Bell Sympatico High Speed Offer
* Try 3 Months of AOL Total Talk VoIP Telephone Service
$699

EDIT:nvm

it might be in this low quality ad
http://www.mdg.ca/en/promotions/adfull.asp
too bad its so low quality that you cant read it. they should at least put it in pdf form.

whats the point of posting their ad on their website if nobody can read the bloody thing?

[kaddy69]

You guys missed the part that says $699 "AFTER MAIL IN REBATE"!

* Radeon X300SE 256MB Hypermemory - Free Upgrade to Graphics Media Accelerator 900 - World Class Graphics

What a ****ing joke!

[spol]

* Radeon X300SE 256MB Hypermemory - Free Upgrade to Graphics Media Accelerator 900 - World Class Graphics

What a ****ing joke!


BURN IN HELL MDG

[DYJ]

Kaddy69's pic is GOLD!! haha

[masterhapposai]

I vote for banning any MDG deal in the HOT DEALS section


BACK ME UP


ban the stealh ad & MDG! :D

[rupture]

LOL time to bash MDG again...

[spol]

The deal sweetener is the 17" LCD monitor and the fact that it's a whopping 3GHz intel. I need to buy one of these for my aunt (she needs a desktop pc with lcd monitor).
.

save some money, I have something 17" in my pants, should fit your aunt.

[Spare-Flair]

MDG is never a hot deal!!! CLOSE THIS THREAD!!!

Frigid cold. You would probably even lose money in the long run due to shoddy parts and poor build quality.


You can also get cheaper prices buildling your own PC or having a PC shop do it for you.

[Siefer999]

ban the stealh ad & MDG! :D

that first post is very complete which leaves me to believe it is fake as well. it seems like an ad too with this part

Now that's a tempting deal, you couldn't ask for more. Just the Microsoft keyboard and mouse is worth at least $70-90 I think. Plus you get 3 months of free internet from the ISP of your choice (Bell, rogers,etc). The deal sweetener is the 17" LCD monitor and the fact that it's a whopping 3GHz intel. I need to buy one of these for my aunt (she needs a desktop pc with lcd monitor).

and then tries to throw you off with the:
My only small question is to get the final confirmation from someone who has bought MDG. They look like a big Canadian company (from the ad) with almost 30 locations. What's their quality / customer service / reliability / upgradability etc,etc? I'm gonna pay their store a visit tomorrow.
then tries to throw you off with the noob question... very deceptive...


EDIT: [QUOTE=spol]save some money, I have something 17" in my pants, should fit your aunt.
LOL! that is pure gold! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[spol]

that first post is very complete which leaves me to believe it is fake as well. it seems like an ad too with this part


and then tries to throw you off with the:

then tries to throw you off with the noob question... very deceptive...

very noobly done. He should be the MDG manager, poor guy. the compnay president probably made him do it.

[hamhead]

this is wut comes w/ the system:

crap OEM refurb CPU Celeron 3ghz
crap kingston ddr266 4x128mb ram
crap reburb faulty old intel mobo
preinstalled winxp w/ no cd
crap refurb loud and faulty harddrive
crappy cheapazz mouse and keyboard (worth $70-90? go eat ***** AzzHole)
crap LCD w/ 40ms response time and w/ dead pixels
crap preloaded software not worth $400. more like nothing
crap free rogers and sympatico for a few months if u sign up for contract, same w/ voip

total: piece of crap ripoff junk faulty scrap built by piece of **** dumbass MDG employees.

[gh05t]

Opened up a can of worms.

Though in some strange way the original poster (second post)seemingly yet eloquently and innocently phrased his post to read almost like an advertsiement for MDG highlighting it's positives over the likes of FS and BB etc.

Hmm.

If he is not too careful he might just be MDG's next poster boy. Already got Nash. :D

[kaddy69]

this is wut comes w/ the system:

crap OEM refurb CPU Celeron 3ghz
crap kingston ddr266 4x128mb ram
crap reburb faulty old intel mobo
preinstalled winxp w/ no cd
crap refurb loud and faulty harddrive
crappy cheapazz mouse and keyboard (worth $70-90? go eat ***** AzzHole)
crap LCD w/ 40ms response time and w/ dead pixels
crap preloaded software not worth $400. more like nothing
crap free rogers and sympatico for a few months if u sign up for contract, same w/ voip

total: piece of crap ripoff junk faulty scrap built by piece of **** dumbass MDG employees.

You missed one thing:

preinstalled winxp w/ no cd, and pirated CD Key (No windows updates)



This thread gave me a good laugh :lol:

kaddy69

[masterhapposai]

i looked at the post again and thought what flagged this post to me as fake. these are the sentences that made me decide that originally. i removed the ones that are restating specs (we all do that), but when the guy adds compliments to a spec i included it because we never do that.

basically he praises MDG 9 times with half truths. if he's for real he must live in a marketing cubicle and forgets to stop working.

**very hot** for those of you looking for a complete desktop package.
very hot?? there's barely any discount here..

there's no comparison in terms of price.
convenient lack of comparison links

You'll be paying at least $300 more from those guys as opposed to MDG.
untrue, because you didnt link a comparison

* Price: 699.00 + tax = 803.85
this one's funny as it's wrong. there's a MIR on this deal, therefore you'd paid x amount's tax, possibly up to $100 more on tax

Now that's a tempting deal, you couldn't ask for more.
sounds like that MDG guy on the home shopping network word for word

Just the Microsoft keyboard and mouse is worth at least $70-90 I think.
you referred to bb/fs. both of which can get you microsoft setups for less than that. visiting canada computers/tigerdirect can drop the price further. original rig doesnt state a bluetooth wireless or what model version of the combo either, so its for sure OEM basic crap. also old wireless combos can burn batteries so quick it's not even worth owning

The deal sweetener is the 17" LCD monitor and the fact that it's a whopping 3GHz intel.
anyone using "whopping 3ghz" in a sentence should be autobanned

They look like a big Canadian company (from the ad) with almost 30 locations.
I'm shocked you didn't say steve nash endorses them, what a letdown. maybe with all our posts we should include how many futureshops/staples/bestbuy locations there are with each deal?

I'm gonna pay their store a visit tomorrow.
i thought you wanted confirmation from one of us before deciding? if you go visit you won't see anything different than the web ad.

[deadlineDan]

I had to check this thread out for laughs just to witness the imminent big dump on mdg ..

you all didn't let me down.. thanks! :lol:

[Siefer999]

I had to check this thread out for laughs just to witness the imminent big dump on mdg ..

you all didn't let me down.. thanks! :lol:

if this was posted in the middle of the day, there would be 10 pages of mdg bashing easy!

[[buck]]

Can a relative large OEM like MDG really get away with selling pirated copies of XP?

All it would take is one person to report them to MS and they'd be in deep... doo doo.

[WLJ101]

Ryan received an email from MDG and suggested him to remove the LCD deal from RFD. Now, I guess if Ryan receive *one* email from any RFDer, he should lock this thread up and banned that OP or put this into BST sections instead.

Is MDG a Canadian company??

[jamewoong]

this is wut comes w/ the system:
total: piece of crap ripoff junk faulty scrap built by piece of **** dumbass MDG employees.
Hihi... I like this sentence... :)

You missed one thing:

preinstalled winxp w/ no cd, and pirated CD Key (No windows updates)
Are you sure what you are saying is true? How come they could sell their thing out? No one notice and report them?

[KochD]

lol this thread cracks me up..

have to agree, my friend purchased an mdg and had nothing but problems from day one. bad defective hardware and mindless tech support.


had an issue where the cd drive wouldnt open, techs asked him to run a recovery with the recovery cd to make sure this isnt a driver or coruption issue.. OK then..


:-)

[WLJ101]

had an issue where the cd drive wouldnt open, techs asked him to run a recovery with the recovery cd to make sure this isnt a driver or coruption issue.. OK then..
:-)

I like this one.

If you bought a computer from them and it won't turn on at all, I guess they will suggest the customer to do the same thing. LOL!

[spol]

please mods and admins, this is a a seriuos issue, we should do something about these MDG employees. I say ban any MDG thread in the HOT DEALS section so they'll know what we RFDers are made of.

[Jane]

please mods and admins, this is a a seriuos issue, we should do something about these MDG employees. I say ban any MDG thread in the HOT DEALS section so they'll know what we RFDers are made of.

On the plus side, having it here is good for new people to the site who genuinely don't know about MDG and should be warned. Plus, it always provides some good reading.

But I thought RFD and MDG made up with the lcd deal.

[itsyours]

On the plus side, having it here is good for new people to the site who genuinely don't know about MDG and should be warned. Plus, it always provides some good reading.

But I thought RFD and MDG made up with the lcd deal.






Agree! Let them post.

[WLJ101]

is steve nash using MDG computers?? LOL

When I first saw the Commerical, I was shock cus SN is such a nice smart guy but why he is representing MDG!?!!?! wtf is going on??

[kaddy69]

On the plus side, having it here is good for new people to the site who genuinely don't know about MDG and should be warned. Plus, it always provides some good reading.

But I thought RFD and MDG made up with the lcd deal.

Before I came to RFD I didn't know much about MDG (I keep wanting to write MGD, my favorite beer ;) ), now i know to stay away from them.

kaddy69

[spol]

is steve nash using MDG computers?? LOL

When I first saw the Commerical, I was shock cus SN is such a nice smart guy but why he is representing MDG!?!!?! wtf is going on??

money CAN buy anything.

[kaddy69]

money CAN buy anything.

exactly, money can buy anything. Steve Nash also does commercials for a chain of Chiropractic clinics.

Steve nash is the last one I would listen to when buying a computer.

spol, I was just going to tell you to fix your avitar, but then I noticed mine is ****ed up again! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[ChiZZad]

Oh boy ...

Before anyone else comment on the "quality" (or lack there of) of MDG computers, I actually want to make a comment on the following advertised item.

"* Radeon X300SE 256MB Hypermemory - Free Upgrade to Graphics Media Accelerator 900 - World Class Graphics"

Whow these guys call Intel Media Accelerator 900 "world class graphics"? And they consider it a "free upgrade" over a dedicated Radeon X300SE that does not take memory away from main system? Do they even know what they are talking about?

Even though I fully agree with you that integrated graphics are by no means an upgrade, the X300SE w/hypermemory does use system memory, the 128mb card has 32mb onboard and uses system ram for the rest, and the 256mb card has 128mb onboard and uses ram for the rest.

Just an FYI.

[StuartM]

hilarious thread...

[gacomeau1]

There's a lot of conflicting information in this thread. Should I buy this computer for my aunt or not?

[Ziggy007]

Upgrade from dedicated graphics to integrated?

ROFL that is bad. I hope nobody falls for this junk...

[gprime]

There's a lot of conflicting information in this thread. Should I buy this computer for my aunt or not?

MDG is just crap.

Every single thing about them. Their advertising schemes are just plain evil, their employees are paid on comission and try to push things on you like crazy, the build quiality is CRAP and nothing is upgradable, and their financing is terrible too. My father got a system a few years back and even though he made all his payments, they claimed the last one was a day late so they charged him interest on the entire computer, like $500 or something rediculous. We had to ignore the phone for like 2 months straight because they kept harassing us.

Everytime I see an MDG commercial it almost makes me sick. I don't understand how such a scummy company still exists.

[LuckyLuc]

There's a lot of conflicting information in this thread. Should I buy this computer for my aunt or not?
Conflicing information???? I just finnished reading this post and the last thing I saw was conflicting information. It's unanimous. Don't buy from MDG at all.

edit: another thing that is anonymous... my spelling is terrible. :cheesygri

[LeafsRbest]

Conflicing information???? I just finnished reading this post and the last thing I saw was conflicting information. It's anonymous. Don't buy from MDG at all.


Don't you mean unanimous?? ;)

Pick up a Toronto Hub magazine (found at almost every corner downtown or at your local library). There are tons of decent computer deals from several reputable computer companies in there.

[akito925]

this tread is cracking me up hahahaha lol.

just reading the ad..

upgrade a video card that is dedicated to a intergrated video card free.. geezzz so bother to even write that??

we upgraded your ati video card to a crappy onboard video card for free..

[Div]

Though I have never considered buying and MDS, reading the posts here at RFD is quite enlightening.

[masterhapposai]

There's a lot of conflicting information in this thread. Should I buy this computer for my aunt or not?
:lol: :lol: :lol:

[ibmjoe]

I know a couple of people that bought mdg and they didn't have any problems with their systems. For what its worth.

[ibmjoe]

i looked at the post again and thought what flagged this post to me as fake. these are the sentences that made me decide that originally. i removed the ones that are restating specs (we all do that), but when the guy adds compliments to a spec i included it because we never do that.

basically he praises MDG 9 times with half truths. if he's for real he must live in a marketing cubicle and forgets to stop working.


very hot?? there's barely any discount here..


convenient lack of comparison links


untrue, because you didnt link a comparison


this one's funny as it's wrong. there's a MIR on this deal, therefore you'd paid x amount's tax, possibly up to $100 more on tax


sounds like that MDG guy on the home shopping network word for word


you referred to bb/fs. both of which can get you microsoft setups for less than that. visiting canada computers/tigerdirect can drop the price further. original rig doesnt state a bluetooth wireless or what model version of the combo either, so its for sure OEM basic crap. also old wireless combos can burn batteries so quick it's not even worth owning


anyone using "whopping 3ghz" in a sentence should be autobanned


I'm shocked you didn't say steve nash endorses them, what a letdown. maybe with all our posts we should include how many futureshops/staples/bestbuy locations there are with each deal?


i thought you wanted confirmation from one of us before deciding? if you go visit you won't see anything different than the web ad.
Loved this post. Excellent critique :)

[kingfencer]

hmmm... you seem to left out the warranty that you MUST purchase, not given an option to purchase, how much is it, like 200 bucks. For the warranty itself, the comp only cost 699...

[clammydog]

I know a couple of people that bought mdg and they didn't have any problems with their systems. For what its worth.

I know a couple of people who did buy from MDG and they had nothing but problems. The problems were mostly with their 'tech support'.

Friends don't let friends buy from MDG.

[najibs]

No deal from MDG is ever a hot deal! :lol:

Migraines Diarreah Grief

[YLSF]

Haha... yeah.. I have always thought of the same thing about MDG!

Someone must have something good to say about them! (besides their employees!)

[pakmode]

MDG?
Never heard of them.
;) haha

[taichi]

Crap>mdg

[masterhapposai]

we should sing their commercials now..

genuine power!

genuine...mdg!

[SergesPlace]

But Steve Nash says MDG is the one to buy. How can the NBA MVP and Canada's top Athlete be so wrong?

[yuprules]

Dang it, I joined this thread late...but here we go:


MDG SUCKS ASS. I wouldn't buy something from them if they were the last computer company in Canada, I'd order from the U.S. and pay wads of duty instead!

[yuprules]

But Steve Nash says MDG is the one to buy. How can the NBA MVP and Canada's top Athlete be so wrong?

They gave him a DELL computer :)

[spol]

what does a basketball player know about computers?

[sandman804]

Serious question here. What powers thier computers? is it genuine Intel hardware, or a couple of gerbils running around on a wheel inside the case?

I have heard nothing but bad things posted on the net over the years about mdg. buyer beware.

[yuprules]

Serious question here. What powers thier computers? is it genuine Intel hardware, or a couple of gerbils running around on a wheel inside the case?

I have heard nothing but bad things posted on the net over the years about mdg. buyer beware.


The processor is most likely stolen out of another computer, or from a customer return. The motherboards are usually NO NAME.

[WLJ101]

Dang it, I joined this thread late...but here we go:


MDG SUCKS ASS. I wouldn't buy something from them if they were the last computer company in Canada, I'd order from the U.S. and pay wads of duty instead!



LOL!!!!

[Bunkhouse]

"Genuine" is a company like ecs or asus that makes motherboards & stuff.

[yuprules]

"Genuine" is a company like ecs or asus that makes motherboards & stuff.

No, you got it wrong... MDG is genuine CRAP :)

[madman604]

My only small question is to get the final confirmation from someone who has bought MDG. They look like a big Canadian company (from the ad) with almost 30 locations. What's their quality / customer service / reliability / upgradability etc,etc? I'm gonna pay their store a visit tomorrow.

what do you mean? you already work there? LOL

[yuprules]

My only small question is to get the final confirmation from someone who has bought MDG. They look like a big Canadian company (from the ad) with almost 30 locations. What's their quality / customer service / reliability / upgradability etc,etc? I'm gonna pay their store a visit tomorrow.

I seriously hope you didn't buy the MDG computer dude! Let us know please!

[Ziggy007]

The fact that they advertise that integrated graphcis are an improvement over a dedicated ATi card tells you this company call tell its head from its ... well you know what I was going to say. This is only to lure in only the purest of computer neophytes. This "free upgrade" is porbably much cheaper for MDG to put into your system, not such a deal. They are probably saving at least $100 off the system by pullin gthat switch.

I wonder if they would let you order the system without the "upgrade". :lol:

[masterhapposai]

The fact that they advertise that integrated graphcis are an improvement over a dedicated ATi card tells you this company call tell its head from its ... well you know what I was going to say. This is only to lure in only the purest of computer neophytes. This "free upgrade" is porbably much cheaper for MDG to put into your system, not such a deal. They are probably saving at least $100 off the system by pullin gthat switch.

I wonder if they would let you order the system without the "upgrade". :lol:


exactly,

To new PC buyers : why would someone buy from a PC company that is only geared towards new users?

Think about it, if this company has no value for experts, then what makes you as a new user believe that you will get any value out of it in the long run?

If they have to change words, specs(throwing in words like Genuine and World Class), and embellish and even lie to get the sale with you and you don't even know what an intel is, what makes them different from a door to door salesman scammer or amway?

If they even wanted experts to buy from them they would have more compact and detailed specs such as model numbers and/or accurate pictures/product names. But, they know their deal is crap, and it's a waste of time to try to get a sale with a person who knows anything about computers.

Because of this they spend 99% of their time on making their ads manipulate new users ONLY to purchase their brand over others. They use keywords to build faith in their specs and distrust in others. If you're new you don't know why this guy on TV is telling you their product is genuine, and you start believing that other companies are not selling genuine items and that there is a good chance to get ripped off out there. This is a false sense of security, don't fall for it, and they are borderline guilty of defamation of character(they are implying their competitors don't sell authentic products).

If the deal was good, experts would buy it, plain and simple.

[yjxiao]

I'd rather use an abacus than buy MDG.

Companies like this piss me off. The owners should be shot.

[xwar]

Avoid MDG if all possible!!!!! ... just get a dell.

[CSR]

HOT and MDG do not belong in the same sentence.

[spol]

HOT and MDG do not belong in the same sentence.

MDG's hot mom.

I did MDG's hot mom. :lol:

[rain]

I don't like MDG either. I had problems with them...Dell deals are better

[Kwirky]

HOT and MDG do not belong in the same sentence.

Not true. Considering that MDG computers are piles of flaming crap, I'd say that makes them hot ;)

[Vacillator]

it might be in this low quality ad
http://www.mdg.ca/en/promotions/adfull.asp
too bad its so low quality that you cant read it. they should at least put it in pdf form.

whats the point of posting their ad on their website if nobody can read the bloody thing?
Another question: WTF is a "SALEAVAGANZA"???

[akito925]

The fact that they advertise that integrated graphcis are an improvement over a dedicated ATi card tells you this company call tell its head from its ... well you know what I was going to say. This is only to lure in only the purest of computer neophytes. This "free upgrade" is porbably much cheaper for MDG to put into your system, not such a deal. They are probably saving at least $100 off the system by pullin gthat switch.

I wonder if they would let you order the system without the "upgrade". :lol:


oh yeah free upgrades.. upgrade you to a cheaper slower card.. for the same price that they charge you for the one you would upgrade.

[mahjongmaniac]

LMAO!

here goes the MDG-bashing again! :razz:

[thendless]

Why hasnt this thread been locked yet? I'm sure a lot of people have already reported the stealth post already

[spol]

Why hasnt this thread been locked yet? I'm sure a lot of people have already reported the stealth post already
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2565892&postcount=43

[yuprules]

Why hasnt this thread been locked yet? I'm sure a lot of people have already reported the stealth post already

Because this user is most likely not an MDG employee.

Plus I'm sure MDG has had it with 10,000 bashes after they post the deal. If I was MDG, I'd stop posting here.

[masterhapposai]

the thread should be renamed to "Hello I am a MDG employee and my computers are suck"

[yuprules]

the thread should be renamed to "Hello I am a MDG employee and my computers are suck"

and they keep posting in here even though they bash my products the second they post it.

[scdvr]

^^ Lol!

[masterhapposai]

and I keep posting in here even though they bash my products the second I post it.

maybe they want to see if opinion has changed since the LCD deal they gave

to them I say, the deal was simply not good enough!

get us in on some of that marketing $ spent on nash because we're doing more damage than he is increasing sales :D

[Nubee]

hhhmmm, why am I always late when mdg threads show up :twisted:

[yuprules]

hhhmmm, why am I always late when mdg threads show up :twisted:

Redflag deals needs an e-mail notification when MDG threads show up so we can all show up and bash them.

I still couldn't believe they put a USED HD with someone elses data on it in my friend's PC!

[Nubee]

Redflag deals needs an e-mail notification when MDG threads show up so we can all show up and bash them.

I still couldn't believe they put a USED HD with someone elses data on it in my friend's PC!

It's exactly that sort of practice that I don't like with MDG. If they advertise them as used pc's then it's understandable but these are so-called brand new.

[mahjongmaniac]

the thread should be renamed to "Hello I am a MDG employee and my computers are suck"

^ LOL!

[thendless]

LOL... I bet you this guy has gotten spammed with PMs telling him to go to hell

[JackyTheBeaver]

While we are on the topic of bad computer companies, I would like to add that although I never dealt with MDG personally, I would have never fallen for their "vague" advertising with phrases such as
"world class graphics", "fast 3D graphics accelerator" - MDG has always used such phrases to disguise the pathatic integrated graphics card they use. Some times they even use "fast integrated 3D graphics video", can you get more ironic in one sentence? (can you get any slower than a integrated graphics card?)
"next-generation super fast LCD" - They've used this before in numerous paper advertisement as well. How fast? 8ms? I wonder why they don't say.


My personal worst experience came from Factory Direct. Driver CD with corrupt video drivers that caused windows 98 to become corrupt in a week and become unbootable, they withheld the correct sound card drivers from me and gave me the wrong ones, but guess what? For a mere 40$, they would install the correct sound card drivers for me, each and every time I reinstall my windows, and thanks to the corrupt video drivers, meant I had to reinstall my computer every 2nd month.

Not unlike MDG, which use no name motherboards, Factory Direct were using Houston motherboards, and on my computer they did a really bad soldering job which caused the parrallel port to malfunction.

[belfour]

Why don't we stop replying to this thread???? (after my post of course :))
So it won't be on the first page anymore.

[sharkyJay]

I know a couple of people that bought mdg and they didn't have any problems with their systems. For what its worth.
Their quality control is not that good. They can't make 100% crap computers. I'm sure there will be a few defects that actually have no problems.

====

Please don't ban Dimons! Let him reply. I wanna know what he has to say.

====

My theory is that MDG seems so successful because they spend a lot of money on making their image look good and going after those uninformed about computers. They are using used car salesman tactics. And honestly being in marketing some of their tactics seems to be very effective and well implemented.

[masterhapposai]

Their quality control is not that good. They can't make 100% crap computers. I'm sure there will be a few defects that actually have no problems.

every time MDG sells a quality computer the CEO cries and fires a quality control worker

this is the only logical explanation. 100% crap will be achieved at all costs!

[toalan]

Screw you MDG haters, I have only good things to say about MDG, here is my MDG story ( I checked with them to make sure that it was okay with me posting my story here)

I took a dump today, and when i read the MDG ad in the paper i found out that my dump was worth $699. Thankfully I did not flush it and gingerly wrestled those golden nuggets out from their soon to be watery grave.

[mahjongmaniac]

LOL... I bet you this guy has gotten spammed with PMs telling him to go to hell

^ :lol:... let's do that! :twisted:

[fmpsportsguy2]

you know, the same people replying and post whoring...you know who you are, doesnt help make this thread go away. If I'm not mistaken the same type/kind of thread happened just before XMAS last year. You are giving MDG space on this forum, where it doesnt belong. Let this thread go, stop post whoring, and get it off the front page!!!!!!!!!!

[deadlineDan]

you know, the same people replying and post whoring...you know who you are, doesnt help make this thread go away. If I'm not mistaken the same type/kind of thread happened just before XMAS last year. You are giving MDG space on this forum, where it doesnt belong. Let this thread go, stop post whoring, and get it off the front page!!!!!!!!!!


or maybe someone could convince the OP to change the thread title to something like "101 reasons why mdg = crap"


:D

[tomtomtom]

A friend of mine bought MDG half a year ago. He can't do upgrades to his Windows XP. Apparently, the website said the Cd-key isn't legit.

Plus, on the tv ad, they try to hide the mouse cable from a mouse and tell ppl that's a Microsoft wireless optical mouse.

17" inch flat screen monitor. It is a CRT. The tv ad shows a LCD, wtf.

Spend that 300 bucks on a Dell, at least you're getting a legit xp cd key :cheesygri

[masterhapposai]

A friend of mine bought MDG half a year ago. He can't do upgrades to his Windows XP. Apparently, the website said the Cd-key isn't legit.

Plus, on the tv ad, they try to hide the mouse cable from a mouse and tell ppl that's a Microsoft wireless optical mouse.

17" inch flat screen monitor. It is a CRT. The tv ad shows a LCD, wtf.

Spend that 300 bucks on a Dell, at least you're getting a legit xp cd key :cheesygri

all MDG ads/posters should be banned then, with a sticky saying "No illegal software allowed, MDG you're included!"

if we can't post sales for illegal software, why can they and get away with it?

[ttt]

A friend of mine bought MDG half a year ago. He can't do upgrades to his Windows XP. Apparently, the website said the Cd-key isn't legit.


:lol: :lol: :lol: mdg deals are too hot for rfd..

[masterhapposai]

* Microsoft® Windows® XP Home


8. No pirated/bootleg/illegal/trades allowed. You cannot disclose the inclusion of pirated games/applications/movies in any of your sale threads. Your price can also not reflect the inclusion of pirated games/applications/movies.

:D

[tomtomtom]

:lol: :lol: :lol: mdg deals are too hot for rfd..

If MDG can make computer, We should think about establishing our own brand. Let's call it "RFD" and make computer out of our basements haahhaha :lol:

[spol]

ah this one looks dead, How long is it gonna take for anthoer MDG bashing thread? i cant wait :razz:

[CSR]

time 2 lock

[cjpark]

Missed out on most of this but I'd might as well throw in my recent experience.

Someone brought a computer in for service where I work the other day along with the invoice for it from MDG. There was the system charge w/ monitor and printer, then they charged $69 for McAfee antivirus and $65 for a 10/100 network card. They bought the system in early 2005, so $65 for a network card is pretty rediculous already, but even more rediculous in that the mobo had onboard ethernet and they didn't even add an additional card...$65 for something she didn't need and didn't even get!

[vicvic]

IN before Lock!

Missed out on most of this but I'd might as well throw in my recent experience.

Someone brought a computer in for service where I work the other day along with the invoice for it from MDG. There was the system charge w/ monitor and printer, then they charged $69 for McAfee antivirus and $65 for a 10/100 network card. They bought the system in early 2005, so $65 for a network card is pretty rediculous already, but even more rediculous in that the mobo had onboard ethernet and they didn't even add an additional card...$65 for something she didn't need and didn't even get!

Maybe another ethernet card to try when one of them fail... LOL .. and it's probably another wonderful upgrade.. +65 Another faulty ethernet card..

[spol]

Missed out on most of this but I'd might as well throw in my recent experience.

Someone brought a computer in for service where I work the other day along with the invoice for it from MDG. There was the system charge w/ monitor and printer, then they charged $69 for McAfee antivirus and $65 for a 10/100 network card. They bought the system in early 2005, so $65 for a network card is pretty rediculous already, but even more rediculous in that the mobo had onboard ethernet and they didn't even add an additional card...$65 for something she didn't need and didn't even get!


wow, thats not even funny, its Sad.

[Siefer999]

wow, thats not even funny, its Sad.

yea, and everything that is "free" is free after rebate like the lexmark printers

[ajimondo]

This should be a sticky on top so people stay away from companies like this, Dell isn't that great either but it's a little better than MDG.

When people bring their computers in for upgrades MDG takes out the old parts and replace them with new parts. Then when the next person comes in for an upgrade they are most likely to received the old parts taken out of the first computer but are still charged full retail price for used parts.

Second the reason why the XP can't be upgraded is cause they clone their HD (saves time for them) but you will have to reinstall XP with a real key which should be included non?

If your stupid enough to buy MDG it's your fault, do some research before you lay your money down. ECS makes the best computers in the world :lol:

[eelfliw]

This is simply amazing!

120 posts in little over a day or so. All bashing MDG. How can RFD expect any advertising dollars from them? Not even Futurescum or Rogers get so many negative posts in such a short time.

[Bordello]

This is simply amazing!

120 posts in little over a day or so. All bashing MDG. How can RFD expect any advertising dollars from them? Not even Futurescum or Rogers get so many negative posts in such a short time.
That just goes to show how much people hate them. If they do try to advertise on RFD, I just hope Derek & Ryan have enough conscience to reject it.

Seriously, how do they manage to stay in business for this long with these practices? (They must have the same people working for them as the Liberals). If I were a victim of their scams. I'd raise hell and try to take them down.

[Kwirky]

yea, and everything that is "free" is free after rebate like the lexmark printers

And it's been said before that the "$440 Microsoft Software Bundle" is actually just MS Works, with each program counted separately @ retail value - a $30 option @ dell. It now seems that as MDG doesn't use legit SW, it doesn't even cost them $30!

[yuprules]

Missed out on most of this but I'd might as well throw in my recent experience.

Someone brought a computer in for service where I work the other day along with the invoice for it from MDG. There was the system charge w/ monitor and printer, then they charged $69 for McAfee antivirus and $65 for a 10/100 network card. They bought the system in early 2005, so $65 for a network card is pretty rediculous already, but even more rediculous in that the mobo had onboard ethernet and they didn't even add an additional card...$65 for something she didn't need and didn't even get!

Bahhahaa...oh man that's amazing. On board ethernet and they charged $65 for it!

[spol]

It would be very disrespectful if Derek and Ryan accept any advertising from them, but thats something they would never do.

[Dimos]

After reading the replies on this thread i got a bit confused, angry and frustrated.
First of all, I'd like to say that some of are bunch of real life a$$holes for that incessant flaming. So I decided to printed the thread, then headed over to the MDG store first thing in the morning (since I thought the best way to know more about to company is to interact directly with their employes and not from a bunch of low life scumbags having a party bashing at a decent Canadian-operated company).

This thread had me really worried so the first thing I confronted him with was MDG's reputation as a credible computer company and even showd him the printed thread. he started chuckling and basically, he said that MDG's annual sales are in the 10's of thousands and they've been in business for more than a decade and if all these allegations were true than the company would go bankrupt (so they must be doing something right). He spoke in a broken english but I prety much understood the messege he was trying to get across: that every company has its haters, even Dell and gave me some sort of statistical response that the silent majority of MDG customers who have had a positive experience tend not to speak out but it's the small bad apples with negative experience who tend to express their opinions and this has an amplifying effect. i.e. out of 1000 sales maybe 20-50 people who all had a bad experience with MDG go and rant about it on the Internet...creating some sort of BIAS. He started complimenting on MDG's quality of service, reputation,etc just like any salesperson would. I really didn't buy into all of that but his first explanation seemed plausible to me.

Anyways, since I was interested in the Horizon 3000 model, I asked a few questions about it, including the specs, warranty, etc. Basically, he said that they currently didn't have that one in stock but had a different model and they were willing to accomodate with whatever upgrades and modifications I was willing to make within reason. This took me a bit by surprise since they falsely claimed that the system was available for immediate pick-up (anyhow, I'm not in a total rush to get the system, I'd rather wait a day or 2 and have them spent a bit of time building a solid system). he said that people who order from dell regret it becase they get the system up to 2-3 weks later and get slamed with huge delivery fees.

I asked him about the video card bait-and-switch trick (downgrading to a lower quality videocard) . first he shook his head and he said the X300 is a pretty old ATI model one of the first PCI expres models ever made and that the Intel Media graphics acelerator (because it's manufactured by the same company as the CPU and motherboard), is integrated more effectively into the motherboard as opposed to a third party brand and performs faster in games and 3D. and that ATI even come out with a X1800 which is the latest model, many generetins ahead of x300, so the X300 is ancient. He even showd me the pictures. Basically he said the advice i was getting from this forum was bull$hit that you guys were clueless.

Long story short, I decided to get the computer he was showing to me, he said after negotiating with his manager he was wiling to upgrade the 17" lcd to 20" perfectly flat monitor (this was a no brainer, who wouldnt ask for 3" more), gave me a lexmark multifunction printer (i made sure that the cartriges were inside since i heard complatins of missing cartriges), an mp3 player/ a digital camera (kinda crapy but oh well, it's free. Can't complain), a bunch of other free items, a usb cable (for $15 or someting like that), he even threw in a spindle of blanks cd's, an aol cd, etc. after tax ,the total came out to $1035. i paid him a $180 deposit fee which he asked for. he said the actual system wil be redy by wednesday for pickupwhich i can't wait! wish me luck!

oh ya one more thing, he gave me a fast internet 10/100 SOHO (or some brand like that) network card for FREE (well it was $39.99 - mfr = free)

Moral of the story: don't read and believe everything you hear on the Internet. To be honest with you, I had a pretty $hitty experience as an RFD member here getting some lousy responses from you guys. I think that's the last time I'll ask for any advice from here from dip$hits who think they know more than Bill gates or something.

[nhatoi]

i should scan u my friend invoice.. charging him 89$ for a 10/100 network card.. and charging him 70$ to upgrade a 8X to 16X.. what a joke..

[Bordello]

After reading the replies on this thread i got a bit confused, angry and frustrated...blah...blah...blah...
Unbelievable. Instead of listening to a collective group of people who unanimously agree on something, you decided to take the words of a salesman instead. That says alot. Anyways, buying your system is only a small part of "the MDG experience". You better inspect the components to make sure you get what you paid for, and you should pray that nothing goes wrong with it, because customer service and MDG are as contradictory as it gets. They might seem friendly at first when you're making the purchase, but if you have warranty issues later on, then you better be prepared to put up a fight to even get them to listen to you. Good luck to you, you'll need it.

[mahjongmaniac]

That just goes to show how much people hate them. If they do try to advertise on RFD, I just hope Derek & Ryan have enough conscience to reject it.

Seriously, how do they manage to stay in business for this long with these practices? (They must have the same people working for them as the Liberals). If I were a victim of their scams. I'd raise hell and try to take them down.

i'd suspect that there are still many ppl out there that get "lured" into their advertising scams ("super fast processor", "super bright LCD", etc. etc... u know what i mean lol)

i still see their advertisments on local newspapers every 2 days or so... so they must be still in business and in good shape.

[Rosico]

Dimos, I hope you are happy with your purchase and that everything works out for you.

However, you did ask for advice, and people gave it.

Still, this thread should move to off topic I think.

[hardcoredummy]

There's a lot of conflicting information in this thread. Should I buy this computer for my aunt or not?

So you have an aunt that needs a computer too? Or do you have multiple accounts and the same IP as the OP?

[forrestsun]

I asked him about the video card bait-and-switch trick (downgrading to a lower quality videocard) . first he shook his head and he said the X300 is a pretty old ATI model one of the first PCI expres models ever made and that the Intel Media graphics acelerator (because it's manufactured by the same company as the CPU and motherboard), is integrated more effectively into the motherboard as opposed to a third party brand and performs faster in games and 3D. and that ATI even come out with a X1800 which is the latest model, many generetins ahead of x300, so the X300 is ancient. He even showd me the pictures. Basically he said the advice i was getting from this forum was bull$hit that you guys were clueless.

.

Perfect educational story for showing MDG does lie to customers, as X300 is obviousely better than 900 and no way as ancient. Any one having internet can google it. How can a computer store manager lie like this I don't get it.

I got used MDG two years ago, in Kingston, looked good (at least intel board) but soon one memory died on me. With what people saying here, and assuming this story was true, I guess they are just getting worse and this finally convinced me stay away from it.

So, thanks!!

btw, 900 might be good for people who wants to try MacOS x86.

[hardcoredummy]

Long story short, I decided to get the computer he was showing to me, he said after negotiating with his manager he was wiling to upgrade the 17" lcd to 20" perfectly flat monitor (this was a no brainer, who wouldnt ask for 3" more),

So he 'upgraded' you from a 17" LCD to a 20" CRT?

[yuprules]

Moral of the story: don't read and believe everything you hear on the Internet. To be honest with you, I had a pretty $hitty experience as an RFD member here getting some lousy responses from you guys. I think that's the last time I'll ask for any advice from here from dip$hits who think they know more than Bill gates or something.


If you didn't listen to about 100 out of 100 people saying that MDG sucks you must be

a) Not very bright to listen to 100% NEGATIVE FEEDBACK about a company
b) You work for MDG

No SANE person would buy a product from a company that gets 100% feedback. Not to mention the horror stories such as charging $65 for an ON BOARD NIC or how about my poor friend who ended up with ANOTHER customer's hard drive that had data on it as an warranty replacement drive!

In short, GO AWAY MDG EMPLOYEE.

[yuprules]

So he 'upgraded' you from a 17" LCD to a 20" CRT?

For those of you who don't get this joke:

You can buy a 20 inch flat CRT for the EXACT same price of an 17" LCD :) It wasn't an upgrade at all. Another way MDG screws you over, fake upgrades!

[Bordello]

So he 'upgraded' you from a 17" LCD to a 20" CRT?
ROFLMAO. Good catch.

MDG: 1
OP: -10 for buying there in the first place.

[hardcoredummy]

I asked him about the video card bait-and-switch trick (downgrading to a lower quality videocard) . first he shook his head and he said the X300 is a pretty old ATI model one of the first PCI expres models ever made and that the Intel Media graphics acelerator (because it's manufactured by the same company as the CPU and motherboard), is integrated more effectively into the motherboard as opposed to a third party brand and performs faster in games and 3D. and that ATI even come out with a X1800 which is the latest model, many generetins ahead of x300, so the X300 is ancient. He even showd me the pictures. Basically he said the advice i was getting from this forum was bull$hit that you guys were clueless.

LOL oh man, you really should have listened to everybody in this forum. The X300 isn't the best out there, but it's far from ancient and MUCH better than the intel integrated graphics. That 'integrated more effectively into the motherboard' is so BS, and you fell for it even though everybody here told you it was crappier.

Moral of the story: don't read and believe everything you hear on the Internet. To be honest with you, I had a pretty $hitty experience as an RFD member here getting some lousy responses from you guys. I think that's the last time I'll ask for any advice from here from dip$hits who think they know more than Bill gates or something.

LOL oh man, that's so sad. You fell for the old bait and switch, and you don't even know it. You went in there hoping to get one system, and they sold you a different system with 'upgrades' like 20" CRT monitor and a bunch of useless junk for MORE than what the system you wanted.

[JackyTheBeaver]

Hey Dimos, I for one would like to wish you luck. It's unfortunate that you felt frustrated by our comments, most of which were not directed at you, but rather, at MDG.


Going back to the video card question, so the salesman said the members on this forum were "clueless"? Here's a review (http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2335) that states otherwise. Excuse me I couldn't find a review of media accelerator 900 versus X300 side by side, by here we see two IBM thinkpads, one with M900 going against one with X300 video card. In 3Dmark05, X300 out-performed M900 by 4+ times.

It's also true that ATI now has X1800 series, but technically (correct me if I'm wrong), it's only about 1 generation ahead of X300. I'm saying this with the consideration that R7000 ~ R9XXX series were last generation, X200 ~ X8XX series are current generation, and X1xxx series are next generation.

As for the question why MDG is still in business - your last post should give you some clues why they are able to move their inventory the way they do.

[vicvic]

Long story short, I decided to get the computer he was showing to me, he said after negotiating with his manager he was wiling to upgrade the 17" lcd to 20" perfectly flat monitor (this was a no brainer, who wouldnt ask for 3" more),


LOL hope you know 20" is a CRT...


I asked him about the video card bait-and-switch trick (downgrading to a lower quality videocard) . first he shook his head and he said the X300 is a pretty old ATI model one of the first PCI expres models ever made and that the Intel Media graphics acelerator (because it's manufactured by the same company as the CPU and motherboard), is integrated more effectively into the motherboard as opposed to a third party brand and performs faster in games and 3D. and that ATI even come out with a X1800 which is the latest model, many generetins ahead of x300, so the X300 is ancient. He even showd me the pictures. Basically he said the advice i was getting from this forum was bull$hit that you guys were clueless.


Funniest sh#t I ever heard.. integrated graphics is better than dedicated graphic card..


oh ya one more thing, he gave me a fast internet 10/100 SOHO (or some brand like that) network card for FREE (well it was $39.99 - mfr = free)


It's not totally free.. you have to pay for the stamps, and tax on $39.99.. why would you need it in the first place?? I believe most of the motherboard now have an integrated ethernet card already...and 10/100 card worth not more than $10 nowadays..

[yuprules]

I asked him about the video card bait-and-switch trick (downgrading to a lower quality videocard) . first he shook his head and he said the X300 is a pretty old ATI model one of the first PCI expres models ever made and that the Intel Media graphics acelerator (because it's manufactured by the same company as the CPU and motherboard), is integrated more effectively into the motherboard as opposed to a third party brand and performs faster in games and 3D. and that ATI even come out with a X1800 which is the latest model, many generetins ahead of x300, so the X300 is ancient. He even showd me the pictures. Basically he said the advice i was getting from this forum was bull$hit that you guys were clueless.

Bahhaha...make it stop...please make it stop...I just fell off my chair!

bahahhahahahahahaha

The onboard Intel Media graphics card is FASTER than the FIRST gen PC Express cards!??!!?!?!?!? Bhahahhahaha oh gosh...make it stop....I can't laugh anymore..b.ahahhahahhaahhahaa. A bloody 4 year old PCI (not pci express) ATI 9200 will BEAT that on board Intel extreme graphics card HANDS DOWN.

For computer newbies:
NO ONBOARD GRAPHICS CARD MADE BY INTEL are faster than any ATI PCI E card. NO WAY IN HECK.

MDG = TOTAL BULL, TOTAL LIES, TOTAL CRAP.

[Ziggy007]

After reading the replies on this thread i got a bit confused, angry and frustrated.
First of all, I'd like to say that some of are bunch of real life a$$holes for that incessant flaming. So I decided to printed the thread, then headed over to the MDG store first thing in the morning (since I thought the best way to know more about to company is to interact directly with their employes and not from a bunch of low life scumbags having a party bashing at a decent Canadian-operated company).

This thread had me really worried so the first thing I confronted him with was MDG's reputation as a credible computer company and even showd him the printed thread. he started chuckling and basically, he said that MDG's annual sales are in the 10's of thousands and they've been in business for more than a decade and if all these allegations were true than the company would go bankrupt (so they must be doing something right). He spoke in a broken english but I prety much understood the messege he was trying to get across: that every company has its haters, even Dell and gave me some sort of statistical response that the silent majority of MDG customers who have had a positive experience tend not to speak out but it's the small bad apples with negative experience who tend to express their opinions and this has an amplifying effect. i.e. out of 1000 sales maybe 20-50 people who all had a bad experience with MDG go and rant about it on the Internet...creating some sort of BIAS. He started complimenting on MDG's quality of service, reputation,etc just like any salesperson would. I really didn't buy into all of that but his first explanation seemed plausible to me.

Anyways, since I was interested in the Horizon 3000 model, I asked a few questions about it, including the specs, warranty, etc. Basically, he said that they currently didn't have that one in stock but had a different model and they were willing to accomodate with whatever upgrades and modifications I was willing to make within reason. This took me a bit by surprise since they falsely claimed that the system was available for immediate pick-up (anyhow, I'm not in a total rush to get the system, I'd rather wait a day or 2 and have them spent a bit of time building a solid system). he said that people who order from dell regret it becase they get the system up to 2-3 weks later and get slamed with huge delivery fees.

I asked him about the video card bait-and-switch trick (downgrading to a lower quality videocard) . first he shook his head and he said the X300 is a pretty old ATI model one of the first PCI expres models ever made and that the Intel Media graphics acelerator (because it's manufactured by the same company as the CPU and motherboard), is integrated more effectively into the motherboard as opposed to a third party brand and performs faster in games and 3D. and that ATI even come out with a X1800 which is the latest model, many generetins ahead of x300, so the X300 is ancient. He even showd me the pictures. Basically he said the advice i was getting from this forum was bull$hit that you guys were clueless.

Long story short, I decided to get the computer he was showing to me, he said after negotiating with his manager he was wiling to upgrade the 17" lcd to 20" perfectly flat monitor (this was a no brainer, who wouldnt ask for 3" more), gave me a lexmark multifunction printer (i made sure that the cartriges were inside since i heard complatins of missing cartriges), an mp3 player/ a digital camera (kinda crapy but oh well, it's free. Can't complain), a bunch of other free items, a usb cable (for $15 or someting like that), he even threw in a spindle of blanks cd's, an aol cd, etc. after tax ,the total came out to $1035. i paid him a $180 deposit fee which he asked for. he said the actual system wil be redy by wednesday for pickupwhich i can't wait! wish me luck!

oh ya one more thing, he gave me a fast internet 10/100 SOHO (or some brand like that) network card for FREE (well it was $39.99 - mfr = free)

Moral of the story: don't read and believe everything you hear on the Internet. To be honest with you, I had a pretty $hitty experience as an RFD member here getting some lousy responses from you guys. I think that's the last time I'll ask for any advice from here from dip$hits who think they know more than Bill gates or something.

You have to be kidding me? There is so much wrong with what happened here that I don't even know where to begin.

First of all the internet is much more likely to give you an unbiased response than the saleguy for MDG. While I do agree that people who have the problems are the ones who will make a stink about it (as opposed to the people who get good ones won't necessarily make posts of praise) this is a forum filled with computer enthusiasts. MDG is a cheap computer company that makes cheap parts. They rely on sketchy wording to lure in customers like you that might not understand what is what with regards to computers.

With regards to the Dell fees, I got my customized Inspiron 9300 6 business days from when I ordered, no shipping fees or anything else. In fact if you call Dell and order there is a 99.99% chance they will include all shipping for free anyway.

About the video card, the fact he sold you on that sets of major red alarms. Hearing this kind of crap solidifes MDG as a horrible company taking advantage of people that don't know that much about computers. While he is correct that a new generation of ATi video cards has come along (This belongs to the last generation which was the Xxxx series, the new is the X1xxx series) this card was only released in March of this year, not that old at all. What you really need to know is the difference between integrated and dedicated graphics. With a dedicated graphics card like the X300 you are getting a seperate processor with its own standalone memory to do graphics processing. While it isn't the most powerful card on the market, any graphics card is more powerful than integrated graphics. Integrated graphcis are included on pretty much any computer by default and are to be used only when the computer DOES NOT have a dedicated video card. I don't know what charts or pictures he showed you but they were all flagrant lies

As for the throw ins, if this company is so reputable and good, aren't you the slighest bit worried they had to give away all that junk to make you buy. Face it, in the x amount of years they have existed they haven't been able to get a decent marketshare because they make weak products and they know it.



Just as a final thing check this out taken from Tom's Hardware (http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/09/15/are_intel/page4.html) to satisfy you:

"Does Intel intend to change the status quo? As it stands now, Intel has no plans to grow its market share in the graphics processor market, and will continue to leave high-end gaming graphics processor designs up to the NVIDIAs and the ATIs. In the future, you may be able to just get by with a newly-released Intel integrated graphics processor, but intensive game play for new titles should continue to necessitate an investment in a graphics card."

[hardcoredummy]

http://configure.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=ca&CS=CABSDT1&l=en&oc=OCDIM5150_FEAT_CB51WP8

Go to Dell... in that system, Dell offers the Intel Media Accelerator as default... and $100 option UPGRADE to the X300. So who's lying here? The MDG salesman, or Dell and ALL of us here on RFD?

[yuprules]

http://configure.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=ca&CS=CABSDT1&l=en&oc=OCDIM5150_FEAT_CB51WP8

Go to Dell... in that system, Dell offers the Intel Media Accelerator as default... and $100 option UPGRADE to the X300. So who's lying here? The MDG salesman, or Dell and ALL of us here on RFD?

Psssttt, he's an MDG employee.

[Bordello]

Psssttt, he's an MDG employee.
Definitely.

He failed miserably for trying to advertise for the company, and that fake post about him buying the system proves it.

Bring on the ban.

[Ziggy007]

The monitor thing is a whole other issue all together. I can't believe he told you that you would get a deal moving from a 17" LCD to a 20" CRT monitor. I am sure he only ever refered to it as a "Perfectly flat" monitor implying that it would be thin and flat like the LCD. What he really meant is that the screen glass would be flat and not curved like the old technology. I sure as hell hope you have a spare kitchen table to sit that tank of a monitor on as well. What will that weigh, a solid 30+ pounds?

[yuprules]

Definitely.

He failed miserably for trying to advertise for the company, and that fake post about him buying the system proves it.

Bring on the ban.

I know, it's not like there was at least ONE GOOD post about MDG.

Not only that, the guy even bashed his own company saying that the onboard Intel graphics card is better for 3d gaming! My goodness, anyone with ANY knowledge about computers knows that onboard graphics = crap. Very rarely will an onboard graphics card beat a dedicated one.

Bahahaha...you'll be lucky to run Quake 1 off that graphics card. I tried to run HALO on an Intel graphics card, it didn't work, even with the latest drivers...it kept showing EVERYONE as the same colour so I'd end up shooting my own team mates online!

[Bindy]

Moral of the story: don't read and believe everything you hear on the Internet. To be honest with you, I had a pretty $hitty experience as an RFD member here getting some lousy responses from you guys. I think that's the last time I'll ask for any advice from here from dip$hits who think they know more than Bill gates or something.

I've never "heard" the Internet before - maybe it's those darn voices in your head?

I would sincerely like to apologize on behalf of all RFDers for your bad experience(s) on these forums. Where's my violin?

[Ziggy007]

I know, it's not like there was at least ONE GOOD post about MDG.

Not only that, the guy even bashed his own company saying that the onboard Intel graphics card is better for 3d gaming! My goodness, anyone with ANY knowledge about computers knows that onboard graphics = crap. Very rarely will an onboard graphics card beat a dedicated one.

Bahahaha...you'll be lucky to run Quake 1 off that graphics card. I tried to run HALO on an Intel graphics card, it didn't work, even with the latest drivers...it kept showing EVERYONE as the same colour so I'd end up shooting my own team mates online!

I think my old Voodoo 3 could beat the Intel integrated graphics.

I would also like to nominate this thread for :

Best deal of the year

Funniest thread of the year

and the "You get what you deserve for not listening..." thread of the year

[JackyTheBeaver]

Is there anyway for you to get the deposite back?

The model was advertised to be "available for pickup" and it wasn't, but thank god a more expensive model was available. How convinient! Oh wait, the more expensive model wasn't ready for pick up either.

[BlackRanger3d]

anyone using "whopping 3ghz" in a sentence should be autobanned



Nice.


MDG and their scams make baby jesus cry. :cry:

[Ziggy007]

Is there anyway for you to get the deposite back?

The model was advertised to be "available for pickup" and it wasn't, but thank god a more expensive model was available. How convinient! Oh wait, the more expensive model wasn't ready for pick up either.

But they threw in all of these great freebies:

An upgrade from LCD monitor -> CRT

An upgrade from Dedicated graphics -> Integrated

And a bunch of things like a network card that isn't needed at all

And mail in rebate forms galore to fill out.

[itsyours]

After reading the replies on this thread i got a bit confused, angry and frustrated.
First of all, I'd like to say that some of are bunch of real life a$$holes for that incessant flaming. So I decided to printed the thread, then headed over to the MDG store first thing in the morning (since I thought the best way to know more about to company is to interact directly with their employes and not from a bunch of low life scumbags having a party bashing at a decent Canadian-operated company).

This thread had me really worried so the first thing I confronted him with was MDG's reputation as a credible computer company and even showd him the printed thread. he started chuckling and basically, he said that MDG's annual sales are in the 10's of thousands and they've been in business for more than a decade and if all these allegations were true than the company would go bankrupt (so they must be doing something right). He spoke in a broken english but I prety much understood the messege he was trying to get across: that every company has its haters, even Dell and gave me some sort of statistical response that the silent majority of MDG customers who have had a positive experience tend not to speak out but it's the small bad apples with negative experience who tend to express their opinions and this has an amplifying effect. i.e. out of 1000 sales maybe 20-50 people who all had a bad experience with MDG go and rant about it on the Internet...creating some sort of BIAS. He started complimenting on MDG's quality of service, reputation,etc just like any salesperson would. I really didn't buy into all of that but his first explanation seemed plausible to me.

Anyways, since I was interested in the Horizon 3000 model, I asked a few questions about it, including the specs, warranty, etc. Basically, he said that they currently didn't have that one in stock but had a different model and they were willing to accomodate with whatever upgrades and modifications I was willing to make within reason. This took me a bit by surprise since they falsely claimed that the system was available for immediate pick-up (anyhow, I'm not in a total rush to get the system, I'd rather wait a day or 2 and have them spent a bit of time building a solid system). he said that people who order from dell regret it becase they get the system up to 2-3 weks later and get slamed with huge delivery fees.

I asked him about the video card bait-and-switch trick (downgrading to a lower quality videocard) . first he shook his head and he said the X300 is a pretty old ATI model one of the first PCI expres models ever made and that the Intel Media graphics acelerator (because it's manufactured by the same company as the CPU and motherboard), is integrated more effectively into the motherboard as opposed to a third party brand and performs faster in games and 3D. and that ATI even come out with a X1800 which is the latest model, many generetins ahead of x300, so the X300 is ancient. He even showd me the pictures. Basically he said the advice i was getting from this forum was bull$hit that you guys were clueless.

Long story short, I decided to get the computer he was showing to me, he said after negotiating with his manager he was wiling to upgrade the 17" lcd to 20" perfectly flat monitor (this was a no brainer, who wouldnt ask for 3" more), gave me a lexmark multifunction printer (i made sure that the cartriges were inside since i heard complatins of missing cartriges), an mp3 player/ a digital camera (kinda crapy but oh well, it's free. Can't complain), a bunch of other free items, a usb cable (for $15 or someting like that), he even threw in a spindle of blanks cd's, an aol cd, etc. after tax ,the total came out to $1035. i paid him a $180 deposit fee which he asked for. he said the actual system wil be redy by wednesday for pickupwhich i can't wait! wish me luck!

oh ya one more thing, he gave me a fast internet 10/100 SOHO (or some brand like that) network card for FREE (well it was $39.99 - mfr = free)

Moral of the story: don't read and believe everything you hear on the Internet. To be honest with you, I had a pretty $hitty experience as an RFD member here getting some lousy responses from you guys. I think that's the last time I'll ask for any advice from here from dip$hits who think they know more than Bill gates or something.
After reading this 3rd post from OP,
I am calling for a permanent ban on this MDG employee.
DO NOT LIE TO US!
Your words in this post tell us all: 100% you are working for MDG.
Our other smart RFDers will analyze your posts and point it out one by one for you.
This site is not for a company to advertise for free or to launch attacks to our members.

[hardcoredummy]

And a bunch of things like a network card that isn't needed at all


Except it wasn't a freebie at all even. They sold him a $40 network card he doesn't need, and he needs to deal with the manufacturer for the rebate.

[Nubee]

This Dimos guy was asking for an advice and when he got it he doesn't like it one bit. Doesn't he have enough common sense to believe those guys who wants to suck as much money off him? You ( Dimos ) should familiarize yourself with lots of hardware stuff so that when you get your blazing hot deal, you can check the parts you paid for are really there.

[Feneant]

I've never seen a computer company fanboy...

[itsyours]

Except it wasn't a freebie at all even. They sold him a $40 network card he doesn't need, and he needs to deal with the manufacturer for the rebate.
Don't believe him. Even the most ******** won't go and buy it right away after reading all the negative comments here. He didn't sound ******** as he should be. A normal serious buyer won't act the way he did or write the way he wrote. A newly joined normal member won't attack other members too. He joined this site for a purpose. That's all.

[Bordello]

Is it true that if you open the case, then the warranty (or whatever crap they consider as warranty) is void? Is there a sticker or something? If this is true, then they definitely don't want you to find out what garbage they put in there. These guys fit the definition of scammers to a tee.

[coomar]

aren't networks cards in the range of 5-20 dollars?

and what motherboard doesn't come with an ethernet port now?

[coomar]

if you heat the sticker, you can get around it, the turbolink psu's they used to use were pretty decent

[mahjongmaniac]

After reading the replies on this thread i got a bit confused, angry and frustrated.
First of all, I'd like to say that some of are bunch of real life a$$holes for that incessant flaming. So I decided to printed the thread, then headed over to the MDG store first thing in the morning (since I thought the best way to know more about to company is to interact directly with their employes and not from a bunch of low life scumbags having a party bashing at a decent Canadian-operated company).

This thread had me really worried so the first thing I confronted him with was MDG's reputation as a credible computer company and even showd him the printed thread. he started chuckling and basically, he said that MDG's annual sales are in the 10's of thousands and they've been in business for more than a decade and if all these allegations were true than the company would go bankrupt (so they must be doing something right). He spoke in a broken english but I prety much understood the messege he was trying to get across: that every company has its haters, even Dell and gave me some sort of statistical response that the silent majority of MDG customers who have had a positive experience tend not to speak out but it's the small bad apples with negative experience who tend to express their opinions and this has an amplifying effect. i.e. out of 1000 sales maybe 20-50 people who all had a bad experience with MDG go and rant about it on the Internet...creating some sort of BIAS. He started complimenting on MDG's quality of service, reputation,etc just like any salesperson would. I really didn't buy into all of that but his first explanation seemed plausible to me.

Anyways, since I was interested in the Horizon 3000 model, I asked a few questions about it, including the specs, warranty, etc. Basically, he said that they currently didn't have that one in stock but had a different model and they were willing to accomodate with whatever upgrades and modifications I was willing to make within reason. This took me a bit by surprise since they falsely claimed that the system was available for immediate pick-up (anyhow, I'm not in a total rush to get the system, I'd rather wait a day or 2 and have them spent a bit of time building a solid system). he said that people who order from dell regret it becase they get the system up to 2-3 weks later and get slamed with huge delivery fees.

I asked him about the video card bait-and-switch trick (downgrading to a lower quality videocard) . first he shook his head and he said the X300 is a pretty old ATI model one of the first PCI expres models ever made and that the Intel Media graphics acelerator (because it's manufactured by the same company as the CPU and motherboard), is integrated more effectively into the motherboard as opposed to a third party brand and performs faster in games and 3D. and that ATI even come out with a X1800 which is the latest model, many generetins ahead of x300, so the X300 is ancient. He even showd me the pictures. Basically he said the advice i was getting from this forum was bull$hit that you guys were clueless.

Long story short, I decided to get the computer he was showing to me, he said after negotiating with his manager he was wiling to upgrade the 17" lcd to 20" perfectly flat monitor (this was a no brainer, who wouldnt ask for 3" more), gave me a lexmark multifunction printer (i made sure that the cartriges were inside since i heard complatins of missing cartriges), an mp3 player/ a digital camera (kinda crapy but oh well, it's free. Can't complain), a bunch of other free items, a usb cable (for $15 or someting like that), he even threw in a spindle of blanks cd's, an aol cd, etc. after tax ,the total came out to $1035. i paid him a $180 deposit fee which he asked for. he said the actual system wil be redy by wednesday for pickupwhich i can't wait! wish me luck!

oh ya one more thing, he gave me a fast internet 10/100 SOHO (or some brand like that) network card for FREE (well it was $39.99 - mfr = free)

Moral of the story: don't read and believe everything you hear on the Internet. To be honest with you, I had a pretty $hitty experience as an RFD member here getting some lousy responses from you guys. I think that's the last time I'll ask for any advice from here from dip$hits who think they know more than Bill gates or something.

wow u work for MDG don't u ? ;)

[Asun]

No, I think Dimos is practising his comedy routine.

[hover42]

This thread turned a boring day into a fun day.

That Dimos guy is either an MDG employee or a very ignorant person intent on staying that way.
:cheesygri

[yuprules]

aren't networks cards in the range of 5-20 dollars?

and what motherboard doesn't come with an ethernet port now?

Staples has network cards for 99 cents every few months.

[Defiant]

hahaha...this thread is pure jokes.

First of all, dont get mad at the MDG salesguy posting. If anything, this thread should cast some doubt in any non-******** person. If not, they deserve the Buck-a-day POS computer they buy.

If the OP is legit, then you sir are truly a fool and it's twits like you that keep these guys in business. I have some magic seeds that grow money trees that I would like to sell you. Just think, you can just GROW YOUR OWN MONEY. Then you can get TWO buck-a-day computers! And since you are such a great customer, they might throw in a 52x Matsushita CDRW drive, a $159 value - FREE!

The only things in this world you can rely on are death, taxes and the fact that there are many, many people dumber than you are; so exploit them or laugh, its your call.

[lazarus]

Bahhaha...make it stop...please make it stop...I just fell off my chair!

bahahhahahahahahaha

The onboard Intel Media graphics card is FASTER than the FIRST gen PC Express cards!??!!?!?!?!? Bhahahhahaha oh gosh...make it stop....I can't laugh anymore..b.ahahhahahhaahhahaa. A bloody 4 year old PCI (not pci express) ATI 9200 will BEAT that on board Intel extreme graphics card HANDS DOWN.

For computer newbies:
NO ONBOARD GRAPHICS CARD MADE BY INTEL are faster than any ATI PCI E card. NO WAY IN HECK.

MDG = TOTAL BULL, TOTAL LIES, TOTAL CRAP.

I thin MDG stands for Maniacal Degenerate Grease-bags

[Jrawk]

wow u work for MDG don't u ? ;)


yeah, i think that if anyones business is getting attacked they would by default, tend to defend it rather than sit back and agree their store sucks.

heres some non exaggerated real life MDG feedback
A month before I met my GF she bought an MDG to my great dismay
They were supposed to give her a DVD/CD Burner drive - She received no DVD capability
About 1 month ago I started noticing her monitor making waving motions. I checked it, its not her Monitor (samsung), its her integrated better than external video card taht of course comes with only 1 year warranty. Its causing this.

But of course, the integrated INTEL video card is much better than an ATI card, which I have yet to see one die on me. Will MDG do anything being that it is out of warranty? Sell me an over priced card whcih they probably shoudl have put in the machine from the start...

So you think that there is only a few bad apples in the lot? no.. There is a LOT of bad apples in the few.

Just imagine how many computers a company like DELL sells in comparison to MDG, and how many people started to Flame the Dell Computer thread?
Did you find any negative comments at all about Dell?

How many POSITIVE comments were found in this thread?

Oh, and what location did you go to to talk to the manager?

[BlackRanger3d]

The only things in this world you can rely on are death, taxes and the fact that there are many, many people dumber than you are; so exploit them or laugh, its your call.

We need dumb people. Without dumb people who would we laugh at.

[torontodragon]

Don't believe him. Even the most ******** won't go and buy it right away after reading all the negative comments here. He didn't sound ******** as he should be. A normal serious buyer won't act the way he did or write the way he wrote. A newly joined normal member won't attack other members too. He joined this site for a purpose. That's all.

Well agree. Think about if he's an MDG employee, he will notice what he's said
will be attacked by many and will not do any good for MDG.

I think he may be just an innocent computer newbie that being false advertised by MDG, or a person who hated MDG and created such a story that makes people feel bad.

[madman604]

$15 USB cable? are these only worth $2?

man they even lied about that.

EDIT: please don't lock this thread, I love how underhanded people get exposed and their schemes blow up in their faces. he tried to drum up buisness and ended up making MGD look even worse! :lol:

[itsyours]

Originally Posted by Dimos
Long story short, I decided to get the computer he was showing to me, he said after negotiating with his manager he was wiling to upgrade the 17" lcd to 20" perfectly flat monitor (this was a no brainer, who wouldnt ask for 3" more),
Perfectly flat monitor. Sounds like an MDG saleman.
A 20" CRT monitor measured only 19" btw.

[JackyTheBeaver]

Yep, every single MDG TV would proudly announce their "perfectly flat monitor", while showing a picture of LCD, then in very small fonts and only in a split second of the commercial, writes "Dimension 6000 model" shown, or "model not exactly as shown".

[rb]

I always send links to threads like this to people considering buying MDG ...it ALWAYS puts them off.

MDG = Crap!

[spol]

after negotiating with his manager he was wiling to upgrade the 17" lcd to 20" perfectly flat monitor (this was a no brainer, who wouldnt ask for 3" more)

looks like the first time wasnt enough for you so here we go again:

your aunt would love the 20" one, but if 17" didnt fit her then 20" might be too big for her, so still you might want to offer my 17".

[masterhapposai]

After reading the replies on this thread i got a bit confused, angry and frustrated.
First of all, I'd like to say that some of are bunch of real life a$$holes for that incessant flaming. So I decided to printed the thread, then headed over to the MDG store first thing in the morning (since I thought the best way to know more about to company is to interact directly with their employes and not from a bunch of low life scumbags having a party

cry more MDG ? We pointed out in detail why the deal was not good and didn't say anything bad about you. The only thing we said is you probably work for MDG, then we went on to trash them effective with points that you can't refute. Hurt by the comments about MDG? You are way too defensive and aggressive as if we hurt your feelings, so you are caught in the act and lie about your real identity. :lol:

bashing at a decent Canadian-operated company).

What makes them decent? We explained in detail how your company is the only thing that should be called a low life scumbag. Decent just because you said so? I thought you didn't know who they are?

You come here asking for information about the company and we give a detailed report, then you come back calling us scumbags and MDG decent. Think about what you said, I'm really considering getting this publicized. I believe it's against the law to come into a privately owned forum and declare your company's deal is the best then verbally assault anyone who disagrees, and could be harassment even.

This thread had me really worried

Worried about what? I thought we were scumbags and MDG was decent, so why listen to us? What's wrong with you? Seperation anxiety? Multiple personalities? No, that's too uncommon. But, you know what, stealth posting an ad is very common so I'll go with that.

so the first thing I confronted him with was MDG's reputation as a credible computer company and even showd him the printed thread.

You didn't lie here. I'm sure you printed this thread out and shown your boss what happened after you tried to stealth post an ad. If we were scumbags and flamers as you said you wouldn't print this out, so caught in another lie.

The reality of the matter is you only hate us because we dislike your company. Cry more..

he started chuckling and basically, he said that MDG's annual sales are in the 10's of thousands and they've been in business for more than a decade and if all these allegations were true than the company would go bankrupt (so they must be doing something right).

We told you that MDG gets tons of sales, where did we say they were going to be bankrupt?? I explained personally in detail in my posts how they take advantage of new users. The market is 90%+ new users/neophytes compared to us 10% or less experts. There's much more $ to be made scamming newcomers, but I guess you knew that.

He spoke in a broken english but I prety much understood the messege he was trying to get across: that every company has its haters, even Dell and gave me some sort of statistical response that the silent majority of MDG customers who have had a positive experience tend not to speak out but it's the small bad apples with negative experience who tend to express their opinions and this has an amplifying effect. i.e. out of 1000 sales maybe 20-50 people who all had a bad experience with MDG go and rant about it on the Internet...creating some sort of BIAS. He started complimenting on MDG's quality of service, reputation,etc just like any salesperson would. I really didn't buy into all of that but his first explanation seemed plausible to me.

That's pretty funny there that you tried to make this story seem authentic by playing on the immigrant computer salesman stereotype. But, you got caught in a lie again, because there's no way he could've gotten all that across to you in broken english. Furthermore, you had to throw in that you understood him because you can't bare to live a day without believing MDG is the best and you can't take criticisim or fault in your company.

they were willing to accomodate with whatever upgrades and modifications I was willing to make within reason.

How convenient...!

he said that people who order from dell regret it becase they get the system up to 2-3 weks later and get slamed with huge delivery fees.

Again, trying to prove MDG is a better company. You can get free shipping on many DELL offers and they widely advertise many great deals.

He even showd me the pictures. Basically he said the advice i was getting from this forum was bull$hit that you guys were clueless.

We don't know each other, we've been right in many posts. Why would we lie to you? My X200 can run Half life 2, Counterstrike, Dungeon Siege 2, and many new gen games. Guess what? The X300 can raise their graphics levels above the minimums.

I can't believe you still want to lie about all this. The X300 destroys the Intel utterly and totally. Go check benchmarks and come back here red faced and apologize for insulting us.

You just proved that MDG lies to it's customers and scams them. What's your nametag? I want to tell your boss about this. :lol:

17" lcd to 20" perfectly flat monitor (this was a no brainer, who wouldnt ask for 3" more)

Don't even have to respond to this one.. :D

, gave me a lexmark multifunction printer (i made sure that the cartriges were inside since i heard complatins of missing cartriges), an mp3 player/ a digital camera (kinda crapy but oh well, it's free. Can't complain), a bunch of other free items, a usb cable (for $15 or someting like that), he even threw in a spindle of blanks cd's, an aol cd, etc. after tax ,the total came out to $1035. i paid him a $180 deposit fee which he asked for. he said the actual system wil be redy by wednesday for pickupwhich i can't wait! wish me luck!

oh ya one more thing, he gave me a fast internet 10/100 SOHO (or some brand like that) network card for FREE (well it was $39.99 - mfr = free)

This is so bad I can't believe you included it in the post. Taxes ontop of the items you still had to pay, and they were way overpriced.

Moral of the story: don't read and believe everything you hear on the Internet.

How ironic. Let me guess, you still want us to believe you are not affiliated with MDG in any way?

Why put this moral out? Scared MDG will lose some customers because of us? Why does it matter to you if you supposedly don't work them for? caughtage?

To be honest with you, I had a pretty $hitty experience as an RFD member here getting some lousy responses from you guys. I think that's the last time I'll ask for any advice from here from dip$hits who think they know more than Bill gates or something.

Here it comes again mr. multiple personality. You switch and show your hatred to those who pointed out nicely that mdg "sucks". If you could keep that out of your posts, and remove all the bs about how great MDG was, we would've totally believed you. But, your head is so far up your boss at MDG's ass that you can't see straight. Blind with rage over the negative comments your beloved garners.

We focused all our attention on MDG, and kept the insults and criticisms directly on them with points of proof, and stories of experience. We don't sit here all day making up **** about MDG. We don't care about them. We care about real deals and making sure no one gets ripped off. Then you come back here and verbally attack us.

Summary : This guy is either mentally disturbed by totally crossing the line for no reason, or works for MDG, or both.

And no one's going to deal with you on this forum considering your lack of knowledge and abusive behaviour. buyer beware with this clown!

[spol]

I'm gonna call MDG three time a day and tell them to stay out of our lovely forum. Everybody do the same too.

its like Jahad, as muslims call it.

[gaurav_fhs]

I only hope RFD isnt threatened by these unscrouplous goons. Other websites have been forced to pull down threads bashing MDG before....

[spol]

no sticky needed, this forum will be kept alive forever. :)

[masterhapposai]

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/gma900%20benches_07310450726/3370.png

here ya go !

omg teh intel 900 is so fast!

http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=2143

For you computer newbies. Anandtech is one of the most highly praised and recognized tech websites in the world. Their community will rip apart any review that is even 0.1% inaccurate. These stats are perfectly accurate.

no neverwinter nights for MDG buyers (old game!) :

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/gma900%20benches_07310450726/3375.png

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/gma900%20benches_07310450726/3375.png

Remember folks, we're all suposed to be liars and full of it, according to this guy and MDG. MDG claims the intel 900 is far superior and so does this bloke who works for MDG while verbally assaulting us.

Btw, this is at very low resolution, if you up the resolution to 1024x768 the intel 900 won't even let these games start up. So it is true, you probably won't even run quake 1 on an intel 900.


another one, simply forget about getting the intel900 to run Wolfenstein at anything higher 640x480, and no one plays games like this at such a low resolution. (it'd look worse than a playstation 1!) :

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/gma900%20benches_07310450726/3367.png

[siriuskao]

So he 'upgraded' you from a 17" LCD to a 20" CRT?

this part is funny.

IMO Dimos = troll (or a very uninformed consumer, salesperson's dream)

[spol]

:arrowu: perfect, this bench should shut him up,

DIE MDG

[masterhapposai]

this part is funny.

IMO Dimos = troll (or a very uninformed consumer, salesperson's dream)

very dangerous troll! if we didnt respond, he may have actually caused some MDG sales. As has been said, their wording and marketing structure is very deceptive and can catch offguard any new buyer.

I think a real troll would start off in the offtopic forum where he'd get a fighting chance and longer life on this thread.

Thus, it must be an employee.

[spol]

he is an employee, dont think twice.

[nextwish]

for those who dont bother to read that anandTech review, heres the verdict:

Final Words
Unfortunately, Intel's latest graphics solution can't keep up with the cheapest PCI Express graphics solution that we could find. The X300 SE isn't a speed demon, but its speed can usually be measured in multiples of Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900 performance.

The market for integrated graphics is focused much more on business and low cost computing. People who are interested in gaming should stay very far away from the Intel solutions.

[kaddy69]

I was sorta feeling down in the dumps today, so as soon as I got home from work I started reading the MDG thread and now I'm laughing my head off.

I love this thread! This should be a stickey! :cheesygri

I wish I had an MDG in my town. I would go in there and act like complete moron when buying a PC, and see how much they try to **** me. I would then start laughing in there faces when they tried to sell me on the integrated graphics over the x300.

What makes me mad is places like this are ones who rip off my parents and family members. I tell everyone if they want a decent computer at a decent price, buy a dell.

[riskit]

Let’s help MDG design a system (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2574245#post2574245)

[kaddy69]

I wish there was some way we could tell microsoft that they are selling pirated xp copies. That would be the end of MDG! It wouldn't be the end, but it would hurt them.

Microsoft audits are rough, they have happend at the university that I worked at. You don't want to be caught with pirated copies.

[hardcoredummy]

I wish there was some way we could tell microsoft that they are selling pirated xp copies. That would be the end of MDG! It wouldn't be the end, but it would hurt them.

Microsoft audits are rough, they have happend at the university that I worked at. You don't want to be caught with pirated copies.

https://reporting.bsa.org/usa/home.aspx?pr=1&CMP=BAL-toms&creative=reward336
http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/Reporting.mspx

You can even get a reward if it turns out to be true!

[sleepinabox]

Aside from their marketing department having no idea behind technology. I've gotta say although I wouldn't give MDG a 5-star service rating, they're certainly better than Dell & BestBuy.

I notice NCIX / Dell get no bad mouthing on this site at all... .I also notice plenty of banners (aka advertising dollars), and a serious lack of banner for MDG. MDG gets flamed on here the hardest out of them all.

So I guess the question is... of the 400 Dell sales reps sitting beside the Don Valley parkway... how many of them are posting how bad MDG is here?

I personally have quite a hate for Dell for late in all fairness just due to bad service. First I call them up to order an Axim v51. Get some guy in India who answers my call, who has no idea for Canadian lingo. He must have asked for my zip code at least 4 times and I had to explain twice in great detail that Canadians use POSTAL CODE's.

Anyhow get the Axim for $ 599 plus tax... very next day price drops to $ 499... so I call back... Ask for $ 100 + tax credit, they say sorry can't do it .... So I say fine let me return it... nope sorry 15% restocking fee... even though their site mentions a 30 day satisfaction guaranate... I guess is guaranteed your satisfied or you pay a restocking fee???

Anyways the damn thing is broken now, I've been without nothing for 3 weeks. It had to get shipped to houston somewhere and I keep getting the run around about when its coming back? WTF?!?!?! ITS A PDA, I use it for work... I get this lecture about how I should have purchased an extended warranty which I declined... even though the n00b that sold me the crap never mentioned a thing about the warranty.

Anyways ... similar story... I pickup an MDG Vision 3000 2 weeks ago... Get the thing home, and things are going great. BTW for those of you wondering... it is an intel board... in my case I upgraded to an intel D955XBK ( http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/d955xbk/index.htm ) ... So I go to add some memory to it... and I guess I fried the board... I forgot to flick off the switch on the Power supply :(

Anyhow I take it to the North York store almost in tears... I explain my mistake... some Russian guy says ... don't worry about it... Tells me to go grab a coffee and come back in an hour... came back in an hour... still wasn't done... but I'm not complaining... I guess he got busy lots of people picking up computers for Xmas. Anyhow he got it working within 2 hours.


To this second... still waiting on my Axim to be fixed... F@#* Dell... I'd rather buy from someone I can yell at in person... then some guy in India...

[hardcoredummy]

So I guess the question is... of the 400 Dell sales reps sitting beside the Don Valley parkway... how many of them are posting how bad MDG is here?


Yeah, we're all Dell reps.

I personally have quite a hate for Dell for late in all fairness just due to bad service. First I call them up to order an Axim v51. Get some guy in India who answers my call, who has no idea for Canadian lingo. He must have asked for my zip code at least 4 times and I had to explain twice in great detail that Canadians use POSTAL CODE's.

I call BS. I've called Dell Canada about a dozen times, and NEVER have i gotten an Indian person. Calling dell.com, yes, i'll get an Indian, but NEVER have i gotten it calling dell.ca.

Anyways the damn thing is broken now, I've been without nothing for 3 weeks. It had to get shipped to houston somewhere and I keep getting the run around about when its coming back? WTF?!?!?! ITS A PDA, I use it for work... I get this lecture about how I should have purchased an extended warranty which I declined... even though the n00b that sold me the crap never mentioned a thing about the warranty.

I've never had a problem with their warranty. My laptop was acting up, and the guy came over to my work and replaced the motherboard on the spot.

Anyways ... similar story... I pickup an MDG Vision 3000 2 weeks ago... Get the thing home, and things are going great. BTW for those of you wondering... it is an intel board... in my case I upgraded to an intel D955XBK ( http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/d955xbk/index.htm ) ... So I go to add some memory to it... and I guess I fried the board... I forgot to flick off the switch on the Power supply :(

Anyhow I take it to the North York store almost in tears... I explain my mistake... some Russian guy says ... don't worry about it... Tells me to go grab a coffee and come back in an hour... came back in an hour... still wasn't done... but I'm not complaining... I guess he got busy lots of people picking up computers for Xmas. Anyhow he got it working within 2 hours.

LOL i'll bet you work for MDG.

[masterhapposai]

Aside from their marketing department having no idea behind technology. I've gotta say although I wouldn't give MDG a 5-star service rating, they're certainly better than Dell & BestBuy.

I notice NCIX / Dell get no bad mouthing on this site at all... .I also notice plenty of banners (aka advertising dollars), and a serious lack of banner for MDG. MDG gets flamed on here the hardest out of them all.

So I guess the question is... of the 400 Dell sales reps sitting beside the Don Valley parkway... how many of them are posting how bad MDG is here?

I personally have quite a hate for Dell for late in all fairness just due to bad service. First I call them up to order an Axim v51. Get some guy in India who answers my call, who has no idea for Canadian lingo. He must have asked for my zip code at least 4 times and I had to explain twice in great detail that Canadians use POSTAL CODE's.

Anyhow get the Axim for $ 599 plus tax... very next day price drops to $ 499... so I call back... Ask for $ 100 + tax credit, they say sorry can't do it .... So I say fine let me return it... nope sorry 15% restocking fee... even though their site mentions a 30 day satisfaction guaranate... I guess is guaranteed your satisfied or you pay a restocking fee???

Anyways the damn thing is broken now, I've been without nothing for 3 weeks. It had to get shipped to houston somewhere and I keep getting the run around about when its coming back? WTF?!?!?! ITS A PDA, I use it for work... I get this lecture about how I should have purchased an extended warranty which I declined... even though the n00b that sold me the crap never mentioned a thing about the warranty.

Anyways ... similar story... I pickup an MDG Vision 3000 2 weeks ago... Get the thing home, and things are going great. BTW for those of you wondering... it is an intel board... in my case I upgraded to an intel D955XBK ( http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/d955xbk/index.htm ) ... So I go to add some memory to it... and I guess I fried the board... I forgot to flick off the switch on the Power supply :(

Anyhow I take it to the North York store almost in tears... I explain my mistake... some Russian guy says ... don't worry about it... Tells me to go grab a coffee and come back in an hour... came back in an hour... still wasn't done... but I'm not complaining... I guess he got busy lots of people picking up computers for Xmas. Anyhow he got it working within 2 hours.


To this second... still waiting on my Axim to be fixed... F@#* Dell... I'd rather buy from someone I can yell at in person... then some guy in India...

You have 3 posts, 2 of them are defending MDG, and 1 is looking for ink cartridges.


:cheesygri


I think they call that FRAUD, i'd be kind of scared of the company if they honored your request. I kick myself for not ordering this! You guys that come on here and start whining really make me laugh, if you think its a bad deal please PM me i'll take it!

If that was my company... I'd tell all you @#$* where to go #@(*$ it! You guys aren't customer's... your no different then someone who finds a wallet on the ground picks it up and keeps it rather

Canadian's used to be decent folk a long time ago, now it seems we're all theives, liars and manipulators. Anything to make or steal a buck, rock on!

Now having said all that... I'll still take the deal ;)


You're absolutely nuts!

And MDG is racist. Look at the way you praise the russian and put down India.

You let your guard down because of your hatred as well. I bet it's probably just the same guy (mods check for same IP). No one in their right mind would accuse anyone here of being DELL reps. We have a really hard time getting their deals and knowing when they're coming, we do all the hard work ourselves trying to find out. And the only thread on this website that has to do with assisting us in getting a DELL deal was STOLEN from another website's forum! We pick up the scraps on DELL deals, and they in no way like us I bet because we call and argue and hassle them for discounts, all of which we can totally understand in english.


Can someone stand up please who doesn't swear at other members or insult/assault them verbally AND supports MDG? If you cry for mother-mdg as if you're in stalingrad fighting off the germans, your input is simply invalid. I want to hear from a real member non-affiliated with MDG say something good about MDG, but you know what, there's never ever been 1 positive comment.

[kaddy69]

Check the ip on this guy sleepinabox, bet you he has the same ip as the orginal poster.

[sharkyJay]

When you stand beside an enemy you are hated more then the enemy itself because it was free choice that brought you there.

I do not feel dimos work for MDG. If he had any understanding of psychology he would know how much damage his comments would cause and the 2nd post just fueled the hatred for MDG.

Despite what others say, he didn't buy the MDG because he's an idiot. We (RFD members) drove him to buy it. It's the commitment and consistency defense mechanism. He provided a commitment by suggesting it was a good deal. Due to the backlash he had to defend his commitment to stay consistent. The larger the backlash the larger the psychological ego defense.

It's the same mechanism all the MDG haters’ use. We hate MDG and when someone says something positive about MDG we have to strengthen defense and increase our bias.

[spol]

why all MDG lovers have less than 10 posts?

the answer is......... :D

[masterhapposai]

When you stand beside an enemy you are hated more then the enemy itself because it was free choice that brought you there.

I do not feel dimos work for MDG. If he had any understanding of psychology he would know how much damage his comments would cause and the 2nd post just fueled the hatred for MDG.

Despite what others say, he didn't buy the MDG because he's an idiot. We (RFD members) drove him to buy it. It's the commitment and consistency defense mechanism. He provided a commitment by suggesting it was a good deal. Due to the backlash he had to defend his commitment to stay consistent. The larger the backlash the larger the psychological ego defense.

It's the same mechanism all the MDG haters’ use. We hate MDG and when someone says something positive about MDG we have to strengthen defense and increase our bias.

I would've applied psychology, and I did at first, but..look at the way he treats MDG as if he is a nurturing mother. This is only possible if he truly cared about them. He is supposed to have never heard of them before which alone is unbelievable, but I gave him benefit of the doubt.

Now here's why I threw psychoanalysis out the window :

He didn't say anything more or less than what MDG actually says. Damaging?? they talk like this every day! Whether it's a newspaper ad or one of their 2 freaky looking guys on the shopping network, they talk word for word like these 2 posters above.

MDG is a self damaging entity by nature. Fortunately for them, there is a big market of novices out there to take advantage of.

[Jaytee]

MDG computers are good to use as a portable toilet.

[Rehan]

Check the ip on this guy sleepinabox, bet you he has the same ip as the orginal poster.No, they're not the same person and there's no indication of any relation to MDG.

If you guys don't like MDG, then say so...but don't beat up on other forum members.

[masterhapposai]

Anyways ... similar story... I pickup an MDG Vision 3000 2 weeks ago... Get the thing home, and things are going great. BTW for those of you wondering... it is an intel board... in my case I upgraded to an intel D955XBK ( http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/d955xbk/index.htm ) ... So I go to add some memory to it... and I guess I fried the board... I forgot to flick off the switch on the Power supply :(


you know why your computer didn't work? It had NO video card!

How did you upgrade from an onboard solution to having NO video card, and have it work?

[masterhapposai]

No, they're not the same person and there's no indication of any relation to MDG.

If you guys don't like MDG, then say so...but don't beat up on other forum members.

Hey, check what they said, the language used by both of them.

They've used personal attacks from the get go.

I'd like to know what's being done about that.

Besides, they are posting after work hours, so of course they won't have a MDG IP (which I bet you don't even have on record, aside from their e-mails! which I also bet you didn't cross reference against, but I still doubt they are using the work network because they feel free to swear at us which is clearly against forum rules). It's obviously off hours trolling.

[Rehan]

Give it up, masterhapposai...

[mahjongmaniac]

No, they're not the same person and there's no indication of any relation to MDG.

If you guys don't like MDG, then say so...but don't beat up on other forum members.

ok,


WE HATE MDG!!!


:cheesygri

[JAC]

Here's some MDG emails. Let's all ask them politely to stop their employees from spamming our forum. Be sure to CC to each one. And you better send more than one copy, in case they miss the first one.

support@mdg.ca
corporatesales@mdg.ca
governmentsales@mdg.ca
educationsales@mdg.ca
pressroom@mdg.ca
officesales@mdg.ca
mdgsask@mdg.ca
fran@mdg.ca
webmaster@mdg.ca
goran@mdg.ca
feedback@mdg.ca
eugene@mdg.ca

[masterhapposai]

Here's some MDG emails. Let's all ask them politely to stop their employees from spamming our forum. Be sure to CC to each one. And you better send more than one copy, in case they miss the first one.

support@mdg.ca
corporatesales@mdg.ca
governmentsales@mdg.ca
educationsales@mdg.ca
pressroom@mdg.ca
officesales@mdg.ca
mdgsask@mdg.ca
fran@mdg.ca
webmaster@mdg.ca
goran@mdg.ca
feedback@mdg.ca
eugene@mdg.ca

thanks

I understand the mods being scared to touch them because sites like redflagdeals operate financially by the # of newcomers per year and they can't risk the 0.00000001%(dropped this low after all the cursing and rules breaking they did in defense of MDG) chance of turning away a new honest visitor and not a stealth ad poster.

But, since this matter is clear as day we can do something about it ourselves.

[kaddy69]

Here's some MDG emails. Let's all ask them politely to stop their employees from spamming our forum. Be sure to CC to each one. And you better send more than one copy, in case they miss the first one.

support@mdg.ca
corporatesales@mdg.ca
governmentsales@mdg.ca
educationsales@mdg.ca
pressroom@mdg.ca
officesales@mdg.ca
mdgsask@mdg.ca
fran@mdg.ca
webmaster@mdg.ca
goran@mdg.ca
feedback@mdg.ca
eugene@mdg.ca

Makes me want to give their emails to a spam site :razz:
hopefully I don't get bored later :cheesygri

kaddy69

[computer01]

I want to hear from a real member non-affiliated with MDG say something good about MDG

Hello,

I am a real member and I am not affiliated with MDG. I would like to say something positive about MDG. Please hear me out.

I like MDG.

MDG has brightened my life and has relieved stress on several occasions. My reasoning is as follows:

When I visit Canada Computers and get abysmal service, I say to myself, "Ah well... at least it's better than MDG."

Thank you for your time.

[gaurav_fhs]

Thank you mods for keeping this thread open for this long. MDG was already warned once before by Microsoft for using pirated software. Let us hope some brave citizen launches a class action lawsuit against these loons.

:lol:

[fmpsportsguy2]

[QUOTE=sleepinabox]Anyways ... similar story... I pickup an MDG Vision 3000 2 weeks ago... Get the thing home, and things are going great. BTW for those of you wondering... it is an intel board... in my case I upgraded to an intel D955XBK ( http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/d955xbk/index.htm ) ... So I go to add some memory to it... and I guess I fried the board... I forgot to flick off the switch on the Power supply :(

Anyhow I take it to the North York store almost in tears... I explain my mistake... some Russian guy says ... don't worry about it... Tells me to go grab a coffee and come back in an hour... came back in an hour... still wasn't done... but I'm not complaining... I guess he got busy lots of people picking up computers for Xmas. Anyhow he got it working within 2 hours.
/QUOTE]

dude, you should have bought a dell!!!!!!!
funny... i've swapped memory hundreds of times with power cord in and out and have never fried a board...what does that tell you.. you got a crap board, exactly what people have been saying about MDG...wait till they tell you it'll only cost you $300 to replace the board, because of YOUR mistake.... you did tell them it was your fault right! NO computer store would fix or replace your mobo because of a customers stupidity that would just be stupid. And dont tell us MDG replaced your mobo!

[kaddy69]

unny... i've swapped memory hundreds of times with power cord in and out and have never fried a board...what does that tell you.. you got a crap board, exactly what people have been saying about MDG...wait till they tell you it'll only cost you $300 to replace the board, because of YOUR mistake.... you did tell them it was your fault right!

:D, like the machine is even worth $300.


Hello,

I am a real member and I am not affiliated with MDG. I would like to say something positive about MDG. Please hear me out.

I like MDG.

MDG has brightened my life and has relieved stress on several occasions. My reasoning is as follows:

When I visit Canada Computers and get abysmal service, I say to myself, "Ah well... at least it's better than MDG."

Thank you for your time.

hahahaha!! :D :D! I can't get enough of this thread. :D

[masterhapposai]

Hello,

I am a real member and I am not affiliated with MDG. I would like to say something positive about MDG. Please hear me out.

I like MDG.

MDG has brightened my life and has relieved stress on several occasions. My reasoning is as follows:

When I visit Canada Computers and get abysmal service, I say to myself, "Ah well... at least it's better than MDG."

Thank you for your time.


True.

We doN'T want MDG to vanish completely.

It'd be like removing the number 1 when making a scale from 1 to 10.

edit: oh **** forgot to mention "1 being worst and 10 being best"

[kaddy69]

True.

We doN'T want MDG to vanish completely.

It'd be like removing the number 1 when making a scale from 1 to 10.

REMEMBER to mention 10 is the BEST!

[mahjongmaniac]

Here's some MDG emails. Let's all ask them politely to stop their employees from spamming our forum. Be sure to CC to each one. And you better send more than one copy, in case they miss the first one.

support@mdg.ca
corporatesales@mdg.ca
governmentsales@mdg.ca
educationsales@mdg.ca
pressroom@mdg.ca
officesales@mdg.ca
mdgsask@mdg.ca
fran@mdg.ca
webmaster@mdg.ca
goran@mdg.ca
feedback@mdg.ca
eugene@mdg.ca

hm... i wonder how many ppl have already thought of spamming those email addys... :twisted:


:D

[crvexl2004]

no matter how many ppl bash mdg here... there are always some unsuspected customers got drawn into those so called "$699" deals.... pity..

[masterhapposai]

REMEMBER to mention 10 is the BEST!

that was horrible. i looked at my post and noticed that then almost banned myself for promoting MDG

[mahjongmaniac]

no matter how many ppl bash mdg here... there are always some unsuspected customers got drawn into those so called "$699" deals.... pity..

unfortunately, that's 1 of the many reasons why MDG is still in business....

[captainhook]

A friend bought an MDG system a few years ago and there were no more than 3 screws in the case to secure the motherboard. Half the time if you moved the case the computer wouldn't start. You would have to open it up and re-seat the video card because the case would flex so much.

My heart goes out to anyone that would be short sighted enough to buy a system from them. :confused:

[GroceryBagHead]

Back in the days when MDG had only one or two stores my friend bought a computer from them for about 2 grand when I offered to build him one instead. So let's see. I build myself a system for $1600:

500Mhz Athlon on Asus K7M, 256 megs of pc133 ram, 20 gig 7200 rpm drive, 32meg Ati RageFury, SB Live!, Viewsonic 17" screen. Quality stuff and it lasted for years. Some of those parts are still in use in other computers btw.

My friend with $2000 ended up with:

500Mhz Celery on some Intel board, 128megs of ram, 8gig 5400 noname drive, 8meg ATI Xpert@Play (****ers initially gave onboard when the flyer clearly stated "video CARD"), onboard sound, onboard lan and dialup, 15" magic crystal ball CRT. Holy ****! Needless to say my Pentium166 felt much snappier than that **** of a computer. I didn't know if I should've been sad or laugh. He even ended up spending more money for "repairs" at the same **** hole.

MDG was **** company from the get-go.

[nsd]

Emailed them, thanks for posting the addresses :twisted: .

[jamewoong]

Can anyone tell why they are continuing to make a such poor product? They don't feel guilty to sell those sh*t?

[sidshock]

I worked for them for 2 weeks as a techie guy building systems in the back.

Seriously, when people came in with problems, and I would say, ok, we have to replace this and this, and fix this, they would say NO, just replace with the OTHER broken returns in this one and see if it works, if not, find some excuse to not HAVE To fix it, and tell them it's their fault it is broken, and charge $$$ to fix it..!!
I couldn't work there more than 2 weeks after that and told them I can on lt come in when I want to and if they don't like that deal then I have to quit.
ofcourse they didn't except this ( thank god) and I quit.
I figure, if I hate it, the only way I COULD work there is if I do whatever I want.. :)

[masterhapposai]

I worked for them for 2 weeks as a techie guy building systems in the back.

Seriously, when people came in with problems, and I would say, ok, we have to replace this and this, and fix this, they would say NO, just replace with the OTHER broken returns in this one and see if it works, if not, find some excuse to not HAVE To fix it, and tell them it's their fault it is broken, and charge $$$ to fix it..!!
I couldn't work there more than 2 weeks after that and told them I can on lt come in when I want to and if they don't like that deal then I have to quit.
ofcourse they didn't except this ( thank god) and I quit.
I figure, if I hate it, the only way I COULD work there is if I do whatever I want.. :)

Hello MDG ?

http://www.tasberry.com/IMAGES/you%20got%20served.jpg

[najibs]

I worked for them for 2 weeks as a techie guy building systems in the back.

Seriously, when people came in with problems, and I would say, ok, we have to replace this and this, and fix this, they would say NO, just replace with the OTHER broken returns in this one and see if it works, if not, find some excuse to not HAVE To fix it, and tell them it's their fault it is broken, and charge $$$ to fix it..!!
I couldn't work there more than 2 weeks after that and told them I can on lt come in when I want to and if they don't like that deal then I have to quit.
ofcourse they didn't except this ( thank god) and I quit.
I figure, if I hate it, the only way I COULD work there is if I do whatever I want.. :)

MDG just got PWNED!!!

[ttt]

I worked for them for 2 weeks as a techie guy building systems in the back.

Seriously, when people came in with problems, and I would say, ok, we have to replace this and this, and fix this, they would say NO, just replace with the OTHER broken returns in this one and see if it works, if not, find some excuse to not HAVE To fix it, and tell them it's their fault it is broken, and charge $$$ to fix it..!!
I couldn't work there more than 2 weeks after that and told them I can on lt come in when I want to and if they don't like that deal then I have to quit.
ofcourse they didn't except this ( thank god) and I quit.
I figure, if I hate it, the only way I COULD work there is if I do whatever I want.. :)

this kinda service reminds me of atic. :lol:

[mahjongmaniac]

I worked for them for 2 weeks as a techie guy building systems in the back.

Seriously, when people came in with problems, and I would say, ok, we have to replace this and this, and fix this, they would say NO, just replace with the OTHER broken returns in this one and see if it works, if not, find some excuse to not HAVE To fix it, and tell them it's their fault it is broken, and charge $$$ to fix it..!!
I couldn't work there more than 2 weeks after that and told them I can on lt come in when I want to and if they don't like that deal then I have to quit.
ofcourse they didn't except this ( thank god) and I quit.
I figure, if I hate it, the only way I COULD work there is if I do whatever I want.. :)
ouch!

MDG pwned! :razz:

[ajimondo]

goran@mdg.ca = President if i remember correctly :D

[WLJ101]

After reading the replies on this thread i got a bit confused, angry and frustrated.
First of all, I'd like to say that some of are bunch of real life a$$holes for that incessant flaming. So I decided to printed the thread, then headed over to the MDG store first thing in the morning (since I thought the best way to know more about to company is to interact directly with their employes and not from a bunch of low life scumbags having a party bashing at a decent Canadian-operated company).

This thread had me really worried so the first thing I confronted him with was MDG's reputation as a credible computer company and even showd him the printed thread. he started chuckling and basically, he said that MDG's annual sales are in the 10's of thousands and they've been in business for more than a decade and if all these allegations were true than the company would go bankrupt (so they must be doing something right). He spoke in a broken english but I prety much understood the messege he was trying to get across: that every company has its haters, even Dell and gave me some sort of statistical response that the silent majority of MDG customers who have had a positive experience tend not to speak out but it's the small bad apples with negative experience who tend to express their opinions and this has an amplifying effect. i.e. out of 1000 sales maybe 20-50 people who all had a bad experience with MDG go and rant about it on the Internet...creating some sort of BIAS. He started complimenting on MDG's quality of service, reputation,etc just like any salesperson would. I really didn't buy into all of that but his first explanation seemed plausible to me.

Anyways, since I was interested in the Horizon 3000 model, I asked a few questions about it, including the specs, warranty, etc. Basically, he said that they currently didn't have that one in stock but had a different model and they were willing to accomodate with whatever upgrades and modifications I was willing to make within reason. This took me a bit by surprise since they falsely claimed that the system was available for immediate pick-up (anyhow, I'm not in a total rush to get the system, I'd rather wait a day or 2 and have them spent a bit of time building a solid system). he said that people who order from dell regret it becase they get the system up to 2-3 weks later and get slamed with huge delivery fees.

I asked him about the video card bait-and-switch trick (downgrading to a lower quality videocard) . first he shook his head and he said the X300 is a pretty old ATI model one of the first PCI expres models ever made and that the Intel Media graphics acelerator (because it's manufactured by the same company as the CPU and motherboard), is integrated more effectively into the motherboard as opposed to a third party brand and performs faster in games and 3D. and that ATI even come out with a X1800 which is the latest model, many generetins ahead of x300, so the X300 is ancient. He even showd me the pictures. Basically he said the advice i was getting from this forum was bull$hit that you guys were clueless.

Long story short, I decided to get the computer he was showing to me, he said after negotiating with his manager he was wiling to upgrade the 17" lcd to 20" perfectly flat monitor (this was a no brainer, who wouldnt ask for 3" more), gave me a lexmark multifunction printer (i made sure that the cartriges were inside since i heard complatins of missing cartriges), an mp3 player/ a digital camera (kinda crapy but oh well, it's free. Can't complain), a bunch of other free items, a usb cable (for $15 or someting like that), he even threw in a spindle of blanks cd's, an aol cd, etc. after tax ,the total came out to $1035. i paid him a $180 deposit fee which he asked for. he said the actual system wil be redy by wednesday for pickupwhich i can't wait! wish me luck!

oh ya one more thing, he gave me a fast internet 10/100 SOHO (or some brand like that) network card for FREE (well it was $39.99 - mfr = free)

Moral of the story: don't read and believe everything you hear on the Internet. To be honest with you, I had a pretty $hitty experience as an RFD member here getting some lousy responses from you guys. I think that's the last time I'll ask for any advice from here from dip$hits who think they know more than Bill gates or something.


We are giving you some suggestions about MDG, that's what you want from us from the beginning right?

If you think that all RFDer are BSing here, you can do a survey and ask all the Computer Techician in some computer store around your area. You can give them some choices such as HP, Dell, Compaq and MDG and let them choose which company made the worest computer.

We all here is helping ppl to get the best stuff. Good luck for purchasing a MDG.

WLJ1O1

[WLJ101]

woow... after reading the third post from you, I guess you are going to buy MDG. I think you should apply for a job from them too.

Guys! Can you tell me where is the MDG local store? I want to pretend a customer that looking for a computer system and see what they can say about it.

17LCD to 20CRT?? good deal!!!

8X dvd burner to a 52X CD Burner?!?!? good deal!!!

X300 upgrade to intel 9000 integred Video card, look at the model number, that's a big jump there!!! 30x better!

WLJ1O1

[yomafire]

I remember when I was 13 and I spent my hard earned money on MDG system because I didnt know computers then and the numbers played a role....MDG can **x it.

[yomafire]

I actually did that....I ended up having a conversation with a potential customer and warned him not to deal with MDG


woow... after reading the third post from you, I guess you are going to buy MDG. I think you should apply for a job from them too.

Guys! Can you tell me where is the MDG local store? I want to pretend a customer that looking for a computer system and see what they can say about it.

17LCD to 20CRT?? good deal!!!

8X dvd burner to a 52X CD Burner?!?!? good deal!!!

X300 upgrade to intel 9000 integred Video card, look at the model number, that's a big jump there!!! 30x better!

WLJ1O1

[Siefer999]

woow... after reading the third post from you, I guess you are going to buy MDG. I think you should apply for a job from them too.

Guys! Can you tell me where is the MDG local store? I want to pretend a customer that looking for a computer system and see what they can say about it.

17LCD to 20CRT?? good deal!!!

8X dvd burner to a 52X CD Burner?!?!? good deal!!!

X300 upgrade to intel 9000 integred Video card, look at the model number, that's a big jump there!!! 30x better!

WLJ1O1
not only that! it's "World Class Graphics"

[masterhapposai]

not only that! it's "World Class Graphics"
wait wait.. it's TEH WORLD CLASS GRAFIKS

and you forgot a deal sweatening 17" LCD Monitor!

whopping 3Ghz Intel!

tempting deal, I couldn't ask for more!


Oh wait, MDG didn't say that a regular member said that.. :rolleyes:

hah, what a joke. you know they remind me of Jeff K, this persona from somethingawful where the kid put AMD vs Intel and said Intel wins because AMD's cpu's heavier and therefore slower

[kaddy69]

woow... after reading the third post from you, I guess you are going to buy MDG. I think you should apply for a job from them too.

Guys! Can you tell me where is the MDG local store? I want to pretend a customer that looking for a computer system and see what they can say about it.

17LCD to 20CRT?? good deal!!!

8X dvd burner to a 52X CD Burner?!?!? good deal!!!

X300 upgrade to intel 9000 integred Video card, look at the model number, that's a big jump there!!! 30x better!

WLJ1O1

Please do this if you can :D. I would love too, but there not in my city. I'm moving to Calgary soon and I'm going cause some **** if they have an MDG there. :D :D

I consider these people thiefs. They steal from people who don't know any better.

[spol]

For those who think MDG stolen their hard earned money in the past, lets strike in the front of thier main store. we could be at least 40-50 poeple.

[safi1]

Yep I remember these guys.

Read an article back in 2000 in regards being fined by giving away piracy microsoft software including the OS

The fine was $250,000 smackers

I was suprised they got Consumers Choice Awards a while ago (or maybe not)

[Jane]

I need to buy one of these for my aunt (she needs a desktop pc with lcd monitor).
So on top of everything, you need to spend another $300 on an lcd monitor???

I asked him about the video card bait-and-switch trick (downgrading to a lower quality videocard).
That's not really bait and switch. Bait and switch is what happened when he got you to spend more money on the computer (you go in to buy the advertised sale but they say they're sold out and sell you a more expensive one). I don't know what the heck you'd call the video-card "upgrade". That's outright misinformation as others have said and shown. Go in and and ask to be "downgraded". Which MDG is this at?

[kaddy69]

Yep I remember these guys.

Read an article back in 2000 in regards being fined by giving away piracy microsoft software including the OS

The fine was $250,000 smackers

I was suprised they got Consumers Choice Awards a while ago (or maybe not)

wow! They did get fined! Well I assumed microsoft would hit them harder then $250,000.

We'll it goes to show you can't pull this ****!. I don't care for MS, but old Bill has been giving lots to charity. Expected 90% of his wealth by the time he dies!

Hat's off to Bill and Melinda!

[safi1]

Hey I just got a great idea for those who recently bought MDG computer and found out it sucks or doesn't work and won't be covered under warranty

Contact silverman helps @ pulse24.com

[kaddy69]

I just dying to talk to an mdg rep about the world class graphics. "wow, this is 30x(times) better than the x300 series!! What a deal!!" Then I will ask him is this a good deal! When he says yes, I will scare all the customer out of the store with my laughing :D :D!

[vicvic]

if you guys are going into their store.. remember to record the conversation (cellphone, voice recorder, etc..) just for a good laugh.. hehe

[sleepinabox]

dell[/rfdlink]!!!!!!!
funny... i've swapped memory hundreds of times with power cord in and out and have never fried a board...what does that tell you.. you got a crap board, exactly what people have been saying about MDG...wait till they tell you it'll only cost you $300 to replace the board, because of YOUR mistake.... you did tell them it was your fault right! NO computer store would fix or replace your mobo because of a customers stupidity that would just be stupid. And dont tell us MDG replaced your mobo!

Actually if you've ever heard of a feature called suspend to ram, it powers the memory when the system seems off. It was my mistake, and no they didn't charge me... They fixed it for free!

If Intel is junk, well I hate to tell you... Most of the processors out there are Intel... and I guess everyone has junk.

Lastly the more I read these posts... the more I realize most of you posting are these shotty little chinesse places selling your crap your cousins in China are making for you. No wonder you guys hate MDG...

[gaurav_fhs]

Actually if you've ever heard of a feature called suspend to ram, it powers the memory when the system seems off. It was my mistake, and no they didn't charge me... They fixed it for free!

If Intel is junk, well I hate to tell you... Most of the processors out there are Intel... and I guess everyone has junk.

Lastly the more I read these posts... the more I realize most of you posting are these shotty little chinesse places selling your crap your cousins in China are making for you. No wonder you guys hate MDG...
Your actual name isnt Goran, is it? :)

[deadlineDan]

Lastly the more I read these posts... the more I realize most of you posting are these shotty little chinesse places selling your crap your cousins in China are making for you. No wonder you guys hate MDG...

yeah, the RFD is mostly made up of Chinese computer store owners who have secretly agreed to gang up on poor mdg -a company that sells nothing but non-crap from its super-secure web site and never bs's or rips off its unsuspecting customers with bogus upgrades or illegal software.

now that you've set me straight, I'm running straight out to the nearest mdg and buying my aunt the sweetest, whoppingest system they got. or whatever the wise and honest sales guy tells me to.

[hardcoredummy]

Lastly the more I read these posts... the more I realize most of you posting are these shotty little chinesse places selling your crap your cousins in China are making for you. No wonder you guys hate MDG...

LOL why are you so threatened to by these comments to MDG that you need to resort to racist comments?

[HappyPanda]

My MDG Story:

I bought an MDG in 1999. It is still going strong.

Being a regular member (reader :) ) here, I was aware the store had... gone down hill, so when my sister in law needed a computer, I had a heads up when I went in to check it out in late 2004. Wow. That is all I can say. I'm a computer Engineer, so I know BS when I hear it... and the slimey sales guy was super smooth... but sadly full of crap.

I walked out of there in less then 5 minutes. I'm pretty sure the kicker was "Well, that system doesn't come with a keyboard or mouse (for real), but I can throw them in for 75 bucks. Or I can hook you up with a wireless system for only 150."

Man I'm thankful my computer is still working fine.

Long story short: STAY AWAY

Good luck with your computer dude(tte). I hope you have as good luck as I did... but to quote "Office Space": "Watch your cornhole man."

[sidshock]

Im white, I worked there, I would buy from those "shotty" "chinese" places anyday over MDG, b/c at least I know I am getting a real ASUS, not an ASAS or a SORNY from MDG...and if that store screws me over, there is a REAL factory warranty even IF my receipt was written on a napkin! :) That's how bad MDG is, I would rather do that instead of deal with M-D-G!

[WLJ101]

but I like the MDG song somehow, Can somebody tell me whY?

da da da da MDG!!!!

[sidshock]

After reading the replies on this thread i got a bit confused, angry and frustrated.
First of all, I'd like to say that some of are bunch of real life a$$holes for that incessant flaming. So I decided to printed the thread, then headed over to the MDG store first thing in the morning (since I thought the best way to know more about to company is to interact directly with their employes and not from a bunch of low life scumbags having a party bashing at a decent Canadian-operated company).

This thread had me really worried so the first thing I confronted him with was MDG's reputation as a credible computer company and even showd him the printed thread. he started chuckling and basically, he said that MDG's annual sales are in the 10's of thousands and they've been in business for more than a decade and if all these allegations were true than the company would go bankrupt (so they must be doing something right). He spoke in a broken english but I prety much understood the messege he was trying to get across: that every company has its haters, even Dell and gave me some sort of statistical response that the silent majority of MDG customers who have had a positive experience tend not to speak out but it's the small bad apples with negative experience who tend to express their opinions and this has an amplifying effect. i.e. out of 1000 sales maybe 20-50 people who all had a bad experience with MDG go and rant about it on the Internet...creating some sort of BIAS. He started complimenting on MDG's quality of service, reputation,etc just like any salesperson would. I really didn't buy into all of that but his first explanation seemed plausible to me.

Anyways, since I was interested in the Horizon 3000 model, I asked a few questions about it, including the specs, warranty, etc. Basically, he said that they currently didn't have that one in stock but had a different model and they were willing to accomodate with whatever upgrades and modifications I was willing to make within reason. This took me a bit by surprise since they falsely claimed that the system was available for immediate pick-up (anyhow, I'm not in a total rush to get the system, I'd rather wait a day or 2 and have them spent a bit of time building a solid system). he said that people who order from dell regret it becase they get the system up to 2-3 weks later and get slamed with huge delivery fees.

I asked him about the video card bait-and-switch trick (downgrading to a lower quality videocard) . first he shook his head and he said the X300 is a pretty old ATI model one of the first PCI expres models ever made and that the Intel Media graphics acelerator (because it's manufactured by the same company as the CPU and motherboard), is integrated more effectively into the motherboard as opposed to a third party brand and performs faster in games and 3D. and that ATI even come out with a X1800 which is the latest model, many generetins ahead of x300, so the X300 is ancient. He even showd me the pictures. Basically he said the advice i was getting from this forum was bull$hit that you guys were clueless.

Long story short, I decided to get the computer he was showing to me, he said after negotiating with his manager he was wiling to upgrade the 17" lcd to 20" perfectly flat monitor (this was a no brainer, who wouldnt ask for 3" more), gave me a lexmark multifunction printer (i made sure that the cartriges were inside since i heard complatins of missing cartriges), an mp3 player/ a digital camera (kinda crapy but oh well, it's free. Can't complain), a bunch of other free items, a usb cable (for $15 or someting like that), he even threw in a spindle of blanks cd's, an aol cd, etc. after tax ,the total came out to $1035. i paid him a $180 deposit fee which he asked for. he said the actual system wil be redy by wednesday for pickupwhich i can't wait! wish me luck!

oh ya one more thing, he gave me a fast internet 10/100 SOHO (or some brand like that) network card for FREE (well it was $39.99 - mfr = free)

Moral of the story: don't read and believe everything you hear on the Internet. To be honest with you, I had a pretty $hitty experience as an RFD member here getting some lousy responses from you guys. I think that's the last time I'll ask for any advice from here from dip$hits who think they know more than Bill gates or something.
ok, now I am 100% convinced this is a real NOOB at pc land, and got sold ( THIS is why MDG is in business btw) Or he is an MDG owner...
If he is a noob, It is ok, EXP will teach him...
Integrated intel, so do u even GET a pci-e SLOT to add a card u WANT later??
Integrated uses your precious onboard ram which is SLOWER btw than Video card ram anyways....
17LCD to 20 " CRT?!? did u know that 17LCD is 17 VIEWABLE vs 20" CRT which is only about 18" viewable = no brainer ( that means take the 17 by a LOOOONG shot )
if u are a REAL consumer, then u would go to the other stores and ask them how come this MDG getup is SOOO good and SOO cheap?!? why are yours more $$?!? and don't forget to mention your "upgrades" and then they would make u aware of what I just told u. AOL CD BONUS?!? (ure def. an mdg owner now!)
a pack of CD's? All the extras uve mentioned in reality are literally $20 bux worth minus the printer. Yes, that includes that 10-100 NIC! Which should have been onboard to begin with.
Dude (dimos) seriously, if u are a REAL consumer, go to other PC stores with that MDG flyer ( that pulled a bait and switch on u by the way with the NO stock BS) and compare and ask for explanations...
Real company and not some asian store? fine....
I would take... Futureshop, BB, Compusmart, Staples, radio shack, and ANY other type of store listed above over mdg....
if u think RFD is so bad, and BIASED? ok BIASED, yes, but only b/c of LONG EXP... bad ? haha post on ANOTHER forum like this and see what they say about mdg... Good luck, ure gunna need it being so narrow minded.... U can call us narrow minded, but exp teaches us to be just that when needed.! ( b/c most of us that speak here of MDG actually DEALT with them and KNOW how bad it truly is! ) god im investing a lot of typing to some MDG employee ( that's the feeling I get anyways )

[WLJ101]

it is very hard to convince someone to like chocolate ice-cream when they like PuPu (Shxt). "Oh! those PuPu is warm and even have yellow corn with it, so How the heck it is better than Ice-cream". You know what i m talking about?

LOL

[clammydog]

it is very hard to convince someone to like chocolate ice-cream when they like PuPu (Shxt). "Oh! those PuPu is warm and even have yellow corn with it, so How the heck it is better than Ice-cream". You know what i m talking about?

LOL

Eeew! What a disgusting example!

[WLJ101]

I don't know if there has any example worse than that to decribe how bad mdg is....

WLJ1O1

[nsd]

Flaming bag of pooo ... :D

[Nubee]

250 posts and still going strong! What a way to rack up post count :cheesygri

[WLJ101]

Ryan should put it in off topicz or sticky in hot deal section.

umm... did Ryan receive email from mdg about this post? lOL

[Dano76]

Funny coincidence, 'cause my boss insisted on buying an MDG last night (despite my expressed reservations.) Without any of the... colourful descriptors ( :cheesygri ) I would have to say I was quite disappointed in the manner in which they tried to finagle the sale. I was with him to act as a buffer, and could barely keep up ("video card upgrade" discussed earlier, trying to sell an ethernet card despite what came onboard, etc.) However, even a minimal amount of compewtor knowledge easily cuts through the plethora of fast talk.

Also funny, for a publicly traded company, rather barebones back alley look to the stores themselves.

[masterhapposai]

Actually if you've ever heard of a feature called suspend to ram, it powers the memory when the system seems off. It was my mistake, and no they didn't charge me... They fixed it for free!

If Intel is junk, well I hate to tell you... Most of the processors out there are Intel... and I guess everyone has junk.

Lastly the more I read these posts... the more I realize most of you posting are these shotty little chinesse places selling your crap your cousins in China are making for you. No wonder you guys hate MDG...

cousins in china? :lol:

First he's talking smack about India, now the Chinese!

You are taking the insults which all have graphic proof inside out way too much to the heart. Listen up, if you're supposedly a real consumer and not a MDG employee you've got to understand they don't pay your bills and it's not worth getting yourself banned through racist comments. But, you're not a regular poster are you?

When facing facts in your face how MDG sucks the only thing you can do to discredit them is use racial comments in hopes that caucasian computer newbies will side with you. Who else would do that except for MDG? MDG's commercials are very caucasian focused btw.

Your comments are hilarious, keep it up! :lol:



To the computer newbies : All of MDG's products are made in china & taiwan just the same! Infact, MDG buys all their stuff from the child labour truely shotty factories, while us consumers and most other computer businesses buy the premium parts when we go shopping (Asus, and better ram, etc..).

How you like that MDG? We can make comments like that too!

[Jane]

My MDG Story:

I bought an MDG in 1999. It is still going strong.

Being a regular member (reader :) ) here, I was aware the store had... gone down hill, so when my sister in law needed a computer, I had a heads up when I went in to check it out in late 2004. Wow. That is all I can say. I'm a computer Engineer, so I know BS when I hear it... and the slimey sales guy was super smooth... but sadly full of crap.

I walked out of there in less then 5 minutes. I'm pretty sure the kicker was "Well, that system doesn't come with a keyboard or mouse (for real), but I can throw them in for 75 bucks. Or I can hook you up with a wireless system for only 150."

Man I'm thankful my computer is still working fine.

Long story short: STAY AWAY

Good luck with your computer dude(tte). I hope you have as good luck as I did... but to quote "Office Space": "Watch your cornhole man."

So that's two positive experiences. Well, the 2004 bad experience cancels out the 1999 good experience so that leaves only one good positive (sleepinabox's). But heck, almost no one would fix a computer for free after a customer fries whatever component by changing the ram with the power still on so I'm going to award 2 positives just for that. There's still 100's of negative posts so anyone else care to jump in?

For those that don't know, there's a site http://www.torontopcstores.com that people can rate any of the pc stores in the GTA. Here's the link to MDG's section: http://www.torontopcstores.com/index.php?board=148;action=display;threadid=377. MDG is infamous for having sites like these remove negative posts. The community here is alot tighter and, apparently, very scrappy so I'd like to see MDG pull something similar here.

[nsx]

After reading this 3rd post from OP,
I am calling for a permanent ban on this MDG employee.
DO NOT LIE TO US!
Your words in this post tell us all: 100% you are working for MDG.
Our other smart RFDers will analyze your posts and point it out one by one for you.
This site is not for a company to advertise for free or to launch attacks to our members.

WORD!!!

Amen. :D

[bubboteaboy]

Look, why don't we all just sum up the thread in one little sentence?

MDG SUCKS. PERIOD. CAVEAT EMPTOR - NEVER, EVER BUY FROM THEM OR SUFFER THE SAME CONSEQUENCES AS I DID AND EVERYONE ELSE WHO BOUGHT FROM THEM TOO.

[divx]

On the plus side, having it here is good for new people to the site who genuinely don't know about MDG and should be warned. Plus, it always provides some good reading.

But I thought RFD and MDG made up with the lcd deal.
Yeah, I didn't knew about MDG before, originally thought this gona be an actually deal.

[divx]

exactly, money can buy anything. Steve Nash also does commercials for a chain of Chiropractic clinics.

Steve nash is the last one I would listen to when buying a computer.

spol, I was just going to tell you to fix your avitar, but then I noticed mine is ****ed up again! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Whose Steve? Is he some kind famous commercial guy?

[optimum]

Someone should delete the thread starter from the face of the Internet

[MrDisco]

Whose Steve? Is he some kind famous commercial guy?

he is famous for being a canadian basketball player in the NBA and recently won an award for being our top athelete.

[divx]

he is famous for being a canadian basketball player in the NBA and recently won an award for being our top athelete.
That guy? I may have to watch that commercial again, cause from what I remembered, he doesn't look that atheletic

[Falcon]

I have sent MDG an e-mail two days ago with NO ANSWER. Am I suprised? The answer is NO based on what I have been reading here, and what is now becoming first hand experience. How does this company stay in business?

[masterhapposai]

Guess what I get in the mail today with my newspaper? a multi-page pullout ad from MDG in colour

and what does it say about it's new "Apton" series?

"No longer will your children complain of a slow PC that can't run your games." :rolleyes:

"Ultra fast processing power to drive any game" :rolleyes:


What video card does it use? GRAPHICS MEDIA ACCELERATOR 900 - WORLD CLASS GRAPHICS :lol: :lol: :lol: which is a "free" upgrade from the radeon x300se


Even their $2000 apton uses the deccelerator 900!

Completely false advertising, and a blatant lie. This can't run any game as shown in my previous post that gives out the benchmark on this $5 junk onboard card.

No one should wonder why MDG is disliked after reading this current ad that's going to go well into 2006

[yuprules]

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/gma900%20benches_07310450726/3370.png

here ya go !

omg teh intel 900 is so fast!

http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=2143

For you computer newbies. Anandtech is one of the most highly praised and recognized tech websites in the world. Their community will rip apart any review that is even 0.1% inaccurate. These stats are perfectly accurate.

no neverwinter nights for MDG buyers (old game!) :

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/gma900%20benches_07310450726/3375.png

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/gma900%20benches_07310450726/3375.png

Remember folks, we're all suposed to be liars and full of it, according to this guy and MDG. MDG claims the intel 900 is far superior and so does this bloke who works for MDG while verbally assaulting us.

Btw, this is at very low resolution, if you up the resolution to 1024x768 the intel 900 won't even let these games start up. So it is true, you probably won't even run quake 1 on an intel 900.


another one, simply forget about getting the intel900 to run Wolfenstein at anything higher 640x480, and no one plays games like this at such a low resolution. (it'd look worse than a playstation 1!) :

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/gma900%20benches_07310450726/3367.png


bahhahaha...oh man, that's amazing! Better than just writing Intel Extreme Graphics aren't up to par. That's proof right there, BENCHMARKS, Intel Extreme graphics card SUCK for 3D gaming.

[Ziggy007]

Guess what I get in the mail today with my newspaper? a multi-page pullout ad from MDG in colour

and what does it say about it's new "Apton" series?

"No longer will your children complain of a slow PC that can't run your games." :rolleyes:

"Ultra fast processing power to drive any game" :rolleyes:


What video card does it use? GRAPHICS MEDIA ACCELERATOR 900 - WORLD CLASS GRAPHICS :lol: :lol: :lol: which is a "free" upgrade from the radeon x300se


Even their $2000 apton uses the deccelerator 900!

Completely false advertising, and a blatant lie. This can't run any game as shown in my previous post that gives out the benchmark on this $5 junk onboard card.

No one should wonder why MDG is disliked after reading this current ad that's going to go well into 2006

I went to their website yesterday to check it out, I posted that in the other "HELP MDG MAKE A COMPUTER" thread.

The onboard graphics would probably struggle with running starcraft...

And if you check out the site you will notice that although the price of the computers keeps going up, they all have pretty much the same specs. For that same $2000 you could get a Dell with dual core 3.0GHz processor, 2GB of RAM, and GeForce 6800....

---

My next question is: How can MDG possibly threaten legal action? What grounds do they have to take RFD or any other review site to court on? Last I checked you were allowed to give cheap junky companies the junky reviews they deserve with freedom of speech...

[madman604]

this thread is gonna top 300 posts of flaming soon.:twisted:

[tigger03]

So he 'upgraded' you from a 17" LCD to a 20" CRT?


LMAO :lol:

[doublejack]

DO NOT BUY if you haven't figured it out yet. They should feel ashamed for touting BUY CANADIAN!

I'd rather call a rep in india and order a system built in kentucky than order a "CANADIAN" system from these guys.

[mahjongmaniac]

hm.. why's this thread still goin? :confused:

shouldn't the MODs have locked this since it's going WAY OT...?


i guess u guys haven't had enuff MDG-bashing yet... :lol:

[spol]

hm.. why's this thread still goin? :confused:

shouldn't the MODs have locked this since it's going WAY OT...?


i guess u guys haven't had enuff MDG-bashing yet... :lol:

maybe by doing this staff want to make sure MDG would never do the same again.

[masterhapposai]

maybe by doing this staff want to make sure MDG would never do the same again.

yes, and we are trying to prove beyond a doubt that MDG is a poor choice in every aspect

we haven't done that yet. because the OP and the other MDG supporter (both of whom supposedly don't know anything about PC's yet remember specs and numbers accurately and ontop of that are supposedly are on the fence about whether MDG is good or not yet are 100% behind MDG and hate all other businesses and say they must be chinese/from india.. :rolleyes: ) have yet to respond to the benchmarks which clearly show MDG lied and/or respond to the ad I typed out showing that MDG continues to scam customers well into 2006.

If MDG is so good, surely they can provide a response to this.

We still have a lot more to say.

Furthermore :

This deal/ad is still ongoing. Until the deal is dead I don't see why it should go down. Afterall it's a deal on a deals forum, and everyone is entitled to view it and decide if they want a MDG. If MDG wants to put ads up for free here, that's fine with me, lets keep it up until they retract the ad. Until then we make discuss how hot this deal is.

[mahjongmaniac]

maybe by doing this staff want to make sure MDG would never do the same again.

hm... so does that mean this thread should go on 24/7/365??

that'll definitely make sure every single RFDer and lurker know NOT to buy from MDG ever again.! :lol:

[MrDisco]

i think the thread should be locked. the point has been made..heck at the least it should go in the computer forum as there is no hot deal here. futher there is the retailer rating page (is mdg on there? perhaps it should be).

[madman604]

this thread must NOT die.

[itsyours]

yes, and we are trying to prove beyond a doubt that MDG is a poor choice in every aspect

we haven't done that yet. because the OP and the other MDG supporter (both of whom supposedly don't know anything about PC's yet remember specs and numbers accurately and ontop of that are supposedly are on the fence about whether MDG is good or not yet are 100% behind MDG and hate all other businesses and say they must be chinese/from india.. :rolleyes: ) have yet to respond to the benchmarks which clearly show MDG lied and/or respond to the ad I typed out showing that MDG continues to scam customers well into 2006.

If MDG is so good, surely they can provide a response to this.

We still have a lot more to say.

Furthermore :

This deal/ad is still ongoing. Until the deal is dead I don't see why it should go down. Afterall it's a deal on a deals forum, and everyone is entitled to view it and decide if they want a MDG. If MDG wants to put ads up for free here, that's fine with me, lets keep it up until they retract the ad. Until then we make discuss how hot this deal is.
I agree, it's up to the original MDG poster to retract their hot ad or the mods to modify it to a cold deal. When the deal is gone or when no ones interested in posting anymore, this thread will die naturally. All other threads died that way, why this one should be different?

[najibs]

this thread must NOT die.

Agreed. We must keep it on the first page so people know MDG sucks and not to post anything related to MDG since 'deal' and 'MDG' dont belong in the same sentence. Unless of course you say "Anything from MDG is NOT a deal" :lol:

[spol]

this thread must NOT die.

tottaly

[babysham]

I'm glad I read this thread. A colleague of mine was going to buy a computer from MDG next week. Now she's staying away and going for the Dell.

The "uprgrade" from the 17 inch LCD to the 20" CRT was cracking me up.

[Ziggy007]

I really would love to hear from the OP about his puchase now after all this talk.

If he isn't an MDG employee he must be feeling quite the fool for buying the PC now after we have completely disproved everything he heard from the MDG salesman and completely torn apart the company.

[yuprules]

I really would love to hear from the OP about his puchase now after all this talk.

If he isn't an MDG employee he must be feeling quite the fool for buying the PC now after we have completely disproved everything he heard from the MDG salesman and completely torn apart the company.

Hey, that's what you get for ignoring 100 some odd people who say don't buy a computer from MDG EVER. Tough beans for him, if you don't listen to people...why bother coming into a forum to ask for an opinion?

[spol]

why bother coming into a forum to ask for an opinion?

he never came to ask our opinion, he only came for advertising.

as i said before, he is an employee, dont think twice.

[mhairiba]

MDG sucks, low quality, customer service worst is woest than Dell :arrowd: .

[spol]

MDG sucks, low quality, customer service worst is woest than Dell :arrowd: .


3 out of your tottal 6 posts is about dell customer service. What have they done to you?

[Siefer999]

i love how noobs keep on backing up MDG! :lol: It's halarious.

1. This is not a hot deal.
2. It never was a hot deal.
3. There is absolutely no discussion here, of a hot deal.
4. MDG and hot deal don't belong in the same sentence other than one that states that the two word do not belong in the same sentence.
5. MDG is TEH SUCK!

[nolookingca]

LOL why are you so threatened to by these comments to MDG that you need to resort to racist comments?

Agreed.
I actually almost bought from those **** ** ******* once, but (fortunately) I wan't a clueless technophobe. Long story short, (IMHO anyways) DIY is the only way to go.

[Spud72]

You'd get better use out of your money with wiping your butt with 7 $100 bills and flush then this "deal."

[ttt]

hm... so does that mean this thread should go on 24/7/365??

that'll definitely make sure every single RFDer and lurker know NOT to buy from MDG ever again.! :lol:

pool @ mdg: xmas bonus for whoever posts the last bump on the mdg deal thread before it gets locked.

[rb]

links to this thread should be posted around the internet !

[artemm]

links to this thread should be posted around the internet !

i wouldn't go that far. =\

[madman604]

i wouldn't go that far. =\
I would

[JimG]

I've had two first-hand bad experiences with MDG. I would certainly say everything people have described is plausible behaviour for them. Absolutly recommend that you avoid them. And a "$15" USB cable can be had at Dollarama.

[Noob1ee]

since when did they sell usb cables at dollarama?!?

[CorSter]

anyways, i say for the hell of it, we email the Attorney Generals office and the News stations about MDG's deciscive advertising practises :P

[artemm]

anyways, i say for the hell of it, we email the Attorney Generals office and the News stations about MDG's deciscive advertising practises :P

yes, shut them down. power to the people.... except those that lose their jobs when your master plan goes down :lol:

[masterhapposai]

since when did they sell usb cables at dollarama?!?

2 years now they've been stocking USB cables at various dollar stores?

The markup on these things is the highest of all items in any store. That's why the bestbuy/futureshop employees break their back to sell one with the printer, or sell one even for no reason to you. Selling 1 USB/Network cable/Accessory is equivalent sometimes to selling 10 games or a few PC's.

Cabling/accessories, and generally anything made out of plastic is really only worth $1 or less.

The only thing with a higher markup is extended warranties/tech support plans.

[BigBadBoo]

2 years now they've been stocking USB cables at various dollar stores?

The markup on these things is the highest of all items in any store. That's why the bestbuy/futureshop employees break their back to sell one with the printer, or sell one even for no reason to you. Selling 1 USB/Network cable/Accessory is equivalent sometimes to selling 10 games or a few PC's.

Cabling/accessories, and generally anything made out of plastic is really only worth $1 or less.

The only thing with a higher markup is extended warranties/tech support plans.

LOL that reminds me. 3 years ago, I had to buy a usb cable A to B for my printer which didnt come with it :confused: so I saw one at FS for 40 bucks, it was nicely packaged, and had a brand name. I go next door to a small computer shop and I see the same thing in a plastic bag for 4 bucks. Was pretty funny caz I was about to buy that 40 dollar rip off just few mins before .

[nolookingca]

LOL that reminds me. 3 years ago, I had to buy a usb cable A to B for my printer which didnt come with it :confused: so I saw one at FS for 40 bucks, it was nicely packaged, and had a brand name. I go next door to a small computer shop and I see the same thing in a plastic bag for 4 bucks. Was pretty funny caz I was about to buy that 40 dollar rip off just few mins before .

$40 dollars? Even Staples have cheaper cables.

[itsyours]

anyways, i say for the hell of it, we email the Attorney Generals office and the News stations about MDG's deciscive advertising practises :P
Cool, give the News station and AG office a link to this thread too. They may need some basic computer knowledge already discussed and posted here. RFD may be famous for this.

[gh05t]

Could MDG sue Redflagdeals for Libel?

[Rehan]

Could MDG sue Redflagdeals for Libel?Yes. Because RFD is a moderated, it would be considered to be a "primary publisher" of the content of the forums and would be at least partially liable for it. For more info, see http://www.cyberlibel.com/liabilit.html and http://www.law.kyushu-u.ac.jp/~luke/middleton.html

[optimum]

Ibtl

[MeekGeek]

Yes. Because RFD is a moderated, it would be considered to be a "primary publisher" of the content of the forums and would be at least partially liable for it. For more info, see http://www.cyberlibel.com/liabilit.html and http://www.law.kyushu-u.ac.jp/~luke/middleton.html

So far reading this thread I don't see any false statements regarding the shoddy business practice of MDG..in fact the testimonials and 1st hand experience of rightful MDG bashers are based (albeit embellished) on real examples. Sure there maybe competitors or fanboys here but from what I have read and seen over time every company is open season @ RFD :cheesygri ... I really don't believe there's much to worry about from MDG (pot calling kettle black) as they have a track record of discreditable conduct and so should it be KNOWN BY ALL!!

p.s. MDG bashing gets removed because most companies can't (read: waste) afford legal expenses not because MDG is right.

[moebius]

Interesting, I was told years ago not to go near MDG by a few friends. I didn't pay too much attention to that, but it's good to see why.

How do these guys have so much money for advertising? They are practicaly every day in Metro. The original poster is 100% an employee - I mean I don't trust boards and even friends, but I do consider what others are talking and then research on my own. There is no way a regular person, no matter how knowledgable or not about computers they are, would act like that.

Anyway, keep it on.

[BigBadBoo]

$40 dollars? Even Staples have cheaper cables.

This was 3 years ago, when usb printers were like the new thing.

[masterhapposai]

Yes. Because RFD is a moderated, it would be considered to be a "primary publisher" of the content of the forums and would be at least partially liable for it. For more info, see http://www.cyberlibel.com/liabilit.html and http://www.law.kyushu-u.ac.jp/~luke/middleton.html

No. If you read from the link you used :

A second New York case, Stratton Oakmount v. Prodigy 23 Med. L.R. 1794 (S.C., Nassau County 1995), involving a libel action by Stratton Oakmount, arose out of an allegedly defamatory posting on a finance oriented bulletin board on the Prodigy Online Service. The originator of the defamation was falsely identified and remains unknown.

On a motion for summary judgment brought by the plaintiff, the court found that Prodigy was a "publisher" for the following reasons:

i) In the past, Prodigy had held itself out as being a "family oriented" computer network and exercised editorial control over the content of its editorial boards in order to make itself more appealing to certain segments of the market.

ii) Prodigy had posted "content guidelines" to its users regarding what Prodigy regarded as proper and appropriate for posting on Prodigy's bulletin boards.

iii) Prodigy used a software screening program to screen postings for offensive language.

iv) Prodigy retained "board leaders" to enforce the guidelines.

v) Prodigy employed technological means to delete postings that violated the guidelines.

On October 24, 1995, Stratton Oakmount announced that it was dropping its $200 million libel lawsuit against Prodigy Online Service. Prodigy had assembled new evidence to show that, since 1992, it had used a computerized keyword search solely to weed out messages containing obscene language, but had not scanned messages for defamatory speech. This evidence, coupled with an apology from Prodigy, was enough to convince Stratton Oakmount to drop the case.



They can't touch us. First of all, buyer experience stories are not against the rules on this board, so RFD doesn't have to police our stories. Second, no one is lying or making vicious defamatory speech other than the 2 diehard MDG supporters, so MDG themselves have nothing to say. Thirdly, this was never meant to be a children's site, and if it was, again the 2 diehard MDG supporters would've been banned immediately or RFD would be held liable for leaving them unbanned.

[JAC]

Heh. The OP reminds me of a guy who went by the name of John Corse, who used to shill for Rambus in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips. Every day for months he'd be posting there, trying to convince people of RDRAM's supremacy over DDR, and every day there would be dozens of people contradicting him and pointing out how full of $hit he was.

I wonder if he works for MDG now.

[Rehan]

They can't touch us. First of all, buyer experience stories are not against the rules on this board, so RFD doesn't have to police our stories. Second, no one is lying or making vicious defamatory speech other than the 2 diehard MDG supporters, so MDG themselves have nothing to say. Thirdly, this was never meant to be a children's site, and if it was, again the 2 diehard MDG supporters would've been banned immediately or RFD would be held liable for leaving them unbanned.gh05t's question was not whether MDG could win the lawsuit...it was whether they could sue.

[masterhapposai]

Heh. The OP reminds me of a guy who went by the name of John Corse, who used to shill for Rambus in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips. Every day for months he'd be posting there, trying to convince people of RDRAM's supremacy over DDR, and every day there would be dozens of people contradicting him and pointing out how full of $hit he was.

I wonder if he works for MDG now.

RDRAM vs DDR is far more of a debate than Intel 900 vs X300

[fmpsportsguy2]

Actually if you've ever heard of a feature called suspend to ram, it powers the memory when the system seems off. It was my mistake, and no they didn't charge me... They fixed it for free!

If Intel is junk, well I hate to tell you... Most of the processors out there are Intel... and I guess everyone has junk.

Lastly the more I read these posts... the more I realize most of you posting are these shotty little chinesse places selling your crap your cousins in China are making for you. No wonder you guys hate MDG...

dude... and it took MDG two hours to fix what is just a mouse movement or spacebar tap to revive your system....now you are just getting tooo stoopid to actually own a computer. You deserve MDG and they deserve your money, personally I think you would be better than steve nash as their spokesperson, then MDG can sell to people that are actually more like you!!!

stoopid people deserve stupid computers...buy MDG!!!!

[masterhapposai]

gh05t's question was not whether MDG could win the lawsuit...it was whether they could sue.

tricky. but then does it count as "suing" if they cant even pass or get to to the step of the preliminary hearing?

[najibs]

gh05t's question was not whether MDG could win the lawsuit...it was whether they could sue.

Legally, they can't sue you unless you were to say that using their computers would cause cancer or would be bad for your health or something like that.. By relating people's experiences and saying their computers and service are junk (which they are! lol)...they can't touch anyone. People's opinions and experiences are untouchable.

People bash Dell all the time, but you don't see Dell suing anyone for it.

[JAC]

RDRAM vs DDR is far more of a debate than Intel 900 vs X300
Not the way this guy was doing it. Do a Google groups search some time. It's pretty funny.

[Rehan]

People bash Dell all the time, but you don't see Dell suing anyone for it.People have bashed MDG in other places like this, and MDG's lawyers have sent out cease & desist letters to the owners of the sites that were hosting the comments from consumers. I even got a call from Goran himself because of it. :razz:

[JAC]

People have bashed MDG in other places like this, and MDG's lawyers have sent out cease & desist letters to the owners of the sites that were hosting the comments from consumers. I even got a call from Goran himself because of it. :razz:

http://www.mical.net/jfz/thunderstorms/pix/bartbutt.gif

Send Goran our love. I'll pony up for the RFD legal defense fund.

[fmpsportsguy2]

People have bashed MDG in other places like this, and MDG's lawyers have sent out cease & desist letters to the owners of the sites that were hosting the comments from consumers. I even got a call from Goran himself because of it. :razz:

Then to protect this site, would be to simply not allow ANY mention of MDG... I don't think anyone here would be at a loss if you did...I mean come on, they only brought the bashing upon themselves.
I and many others posted way back, for this thread to stop, be closed, forgotten...so in effect you guys are setting yourselves up for the fall if it happens. Just lock this puppy up and delete it!!!!!!!! Nothing to see here folks LOL

[kaddy69]

stoopid people deserve stupid computers...buy MDG!!!!

Now your going a little far. Just cause you not technology orientated, doesn't mean your stupid.

One of my uncles is a Doctor (Ph.D in medicine) and he doesn't know **** about computers. He also doesn't care to know.

If he went to MDG, they would probably rip him off. I would not go as far to call these people stupid!

[kaddy69]

Ibtl

I love the avitar :D

[fmpsportsguy2]

Now your going a little far. Just cause you not technology orientated, doesn't mean your stupid.

One of my uncles is a Doctor (Ph.D in medicine) and he doesn't know **** about computers. He also doesn't care to know.

If he went to MDG, they would probably rip him off. I would not go as far to call these people stupid!

if you come here and claim to have a hot deal, then ask for peoples opinions, go against what was generally said, and actually buy a peice of crap, you say you installed memory with the power button still ON!!, think u fried your board and took it back to get fixed, and they told you it was a suspend to ram problem..but took 2 hrs to fix ( a bogus diagnosis..suspend to ram has to deal with saving the computer state without actually powering off, while basically in sleep mode, and wouldn't have any thing to do with your computer not starting)....hey I call a spade a spade. people use these forums to become EDUCATED, get better deals, learn from each other... since the pro MDG posters haven't grasped that simple concept then.. yes they are stoopid.

[spol]

gh05t, you just started a very offtopic subject. Please stay on the subject. :lol:

[HappyPanda]

Then to protect this site, would be to simply not allow ANY mention of MDG... I don't think anyone here would be at a loss if you did...I mean come on, they only brought the bashing upon themselves.
I and many others posted way back, for this thread to stop, be closed, forgotten...so in effect you guys are setting yourselves up for the fall if it happens. Just lock this puppy up and delete it!!!!!!!! Nothing to see here folks LOL


It is important that people know.

[kaddy69]

bump! :cheesygri

[Dano76]

Oops. Did I bump this one?

[hardcoredummy]

I wonder if the OP has revisited this thread yet.

[divx]

People have bashed MDG in other places like this, and MDG's lawyers have sent out cease & desist letters to the owners of the sites that were hosting the comments from consumers. I even got a call from Goran himself because of it. :razz:
LOL, people bash linux, windows, apple, ibm, dell, staples, FS, BB, ncix, td, fd, etc etc etc the list goes on, you don't see them sueing :)

[Ziggy007]

People have bashed MDG in other places like this, and MDG's lawyers have sent out cease & desist letters to the owners of the sites that were hosting the comments from consumers. I even got a call from Goran himself because of it. :razz:

We should call Goran and tell him that his company should cease and desist in the production of crappy computers :lol:

You know the company makes bad products when they go as far as they can to squelch the bad reviews. This company relies solely on sales to computer noobs who know nothing about how bad the company is. Bad reviews like this must kill their sales, but instead of trying to shut down and sue all evil speak on the net why don't they spend their time and money making better computers and putting an end to scamming customers (ahem, upgrades to "World class graphics")

In all honesty I would love for "Goran" to come on here and defend his companies policies and stand behind them. We have all completely disproven anything that MDG says so why doesn't he come on here and show us all of his magical graphs and charts that show the IGM900 is more powerful than the x300SE...

[Moberator]

Hey Dimos, thanks for the hot deal!

I went to get one yesterday, but they just sold their last one! Luckily, I was able to get the $9.99 upgrade to the graphic accelerator card for free! But you made a mistake the price for the computer is 899 not 699 so edit your title please!

[LegiT]

Hey Dimos, thanks for the hot deal!

I went to get one yesterday, but they just sold their last one! Luckily, I was able to get the $9.99 upgrade to the graphic accelerator card for free! But you made a mistake the price for the computer is 899 not 699 so edit your title please!

You're kidding us...

[DarkReaper]

Hey Dimos, thanks for the hot deal!

I went to get one yesterday, but they just sold their last one! Luckily, I was able to get the $9.99 upgrade to the graphic accelerator card for free! But you made a mistake the price for the computer is 899 not 699 so edit your title please!

Whoa, whoa, whoa! Did you pay $10 more to downgrade to get an integrated video card?

[madman604]

i doubt there is anyone on this site who has more than 10 posts willing to defend or praise MDG.

but to be fair, does anyone out there have a happy ending story concerning MDG?

[torontodragon]

Hey Dimos, thanks for the hot deal!

I went to get one yesterday, but they just sold their last one! Luckily, I was able to get the $9.99 upgrade to the graphic accelerator card for free! But you made a mistake the price for the computer is 899 not 699 so edit your title please!

Another MDG employee? LOL

[spol]

Hey Dimos, thanks for the hot deal!

I went to get one yesterday, but they just sold their last one! Luckily, I was able to get the $9.99 upgrade to the graphic accelerator card for free! But you made a mistake the price for the computer is 899 not 699 so edit your title please!


according to your posts (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/search.php?searchid=1129573) I estimate your age 15.

[WLJ101]

Another MDG employee? LOL


Part-time I guess

[sharkyJay]

That's just mean! No one deserves a MDG!


stoopid people deserve stupid computers...buy MDG!!!!

[masterhapposai]

Hey Dimos, thanks for the hot deal!

I went to get one yesterday, but they just sold their last one! Luckily, I was able to get the $9.99 upgrade to the graphic accelerator card for free! But you made a mistake the price for the computer is 899 not 699 so edit your title please!

moberator you should inquire about their return/order cancel policy

Look through this thread, be advised that the intel 900 is the worst graphics card on the current market. hopefully they gave you a different card for $9.99.

if you are curious as to why and are not convinced by this thread, please PM me or discuss within this topic.

I did check over your posts and you've never had a console before, correct. And your posts say you are 19 so it's very much alright to be inexperienced with technology, you have quite a few years to go to learn more about computers. If you are looking for games I guarantee this computer purchase will not allow you to play 3D games on the PC. You will pay your every last penny trying to upgrade this computer for gaming. It is effectively a scam because they probably told you it's the best card, and their ads say it can play any game.

If you are not into gaming it is still advisable to not purchase it due to the poor performance of their technical support. You probably have not read in this thread, that former employees and customers of MDG have witnessed them toss in bad, used and broken parts. I would advise to do so. A purchase of this magnitude when you could not afford a $100 console could put you in a situation where you will lose 10x the money. A non-gamer is much better off getting a $300 DELL.

Just trying to clarify the deal for you.

[newdeals4u]

Hey,

Are we really supposed to believe that these recent posts from newbies to be real purchases of MDG products. These MDG people posting on this forum are such morons. They have lost alot more deals than made any from this post.

MDG = Paul Martin : both are liars and both will lose in the end.

[Dano76]

People have bashed MDG in other places like this, and MDG's lawyers have sent out cease & desist letters to the owners of the sites that were hosting the comments from consumers. I even got a call from Goran himself because of it. :razz:
Sorry guys, maybe I missed it, but who is "Goran?"

[CanadaBoy]

Hello my name is Mister Burns, of the Parnamahuikan tribe

I am interesred in buying these in bulk for my school,

I now I am getting ripped off but...

Do you mind if I trade in my 300 Mac 1s for 600 MDGs?

[yuprules]

Hey,

Are we really supposed to believe that these recent posts from newbies to be real purchases of MDG products. These MDG people posting on this forum are such morons. They have lost alot more deals than made any from this post.

MDG = Paul Martin : both are liars and both will lose in the end.

Why the Bloc will win? :lol:

[spol]

Hello my name is Mister Burns, of the Parnamahuikan tribe

I am interesred in buying these in bulk for my school,

I now I am getting ripped off but...

Do you mind if I trade in my 300 Mac 1s for 600 MDGs?

who are you talking to?

[yuprules]

who are you talking to?

It's a joke.

[CanadaBoy]

who are you talking to?
http://www.lardlad.com/framegrabs/7G08/104.jpg
:arrowu: Her :arrowu:

[yuprules]

http://www.lardlad.com/framegrabs/7G08/104.jpg
:arrowu: Her :arrowu:

What do you mean HER? I'm a GUY! :)

[nolookingca]

OT
according to your posts (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/search.php?searchid=1129573) I estimate your age 15.

WTF? Are you saying that all teens are clueless idiots who buy MDG? As a 13-year-old geek, I find this offensive and degradative. I know you didn't mean to offend, but these ageist comments are all over the web. :| *sigh*

Note to self: Stop being a geek, play sports. Maybe then you'll take these remarks a bit better.... Stop writing notes to self.

Anyways, back to the MDG-bashing.

[Dano76]

What do you mean HER? I'm a GUY! :)
Are you sure? :D Hey! Maybe you're "Goran"!!! :lol:

[madman604]

Sorry guys, maybe I missed it, but who is "Goran?"

MDG owner of somethin. look back in the 300+ threads bashing MDG it'll show up.

[yuprules]

Are you sure? :D Hey! Maybe you're "Goran"!!! :lol:

Oh no, I've been found out! *runs* :lol:

[CanadaBoy]

What do you mean HER? I'm a GUY! :)
How could I tell :confused:

[Jrawk]

yeah, i think that if anyones business is getting attacked they would by default, tend to defend it rather than sit back and agree their store sucks.

heres some non exaggerated real life MDG feedback
A month before I met my GF she bought an MDG to my great dismay
They were supposed to give her a DVD/CD Burner drive - She received no DVD capability
About 1 month ago I started noticing her monitor making waving motions. I checked it, its not her Monitor (samsung), its her integrated better than external video card taht of course comes with only 1 year warranty. Its causing this.

But of course, the integrated INTEL video card is much better than an ATI card, which I have yet to see one die on me. Will MDG do anything being that it is out of warranty? Sell me an over priced card whcih they probably shoudl have put in the machine from the start...

So you think that there is only a few bad apples in the lot? no.. There is a LOT of bad apples in the few.

Just imagine how many computers a company like DELL sells in comparison to MDG, and how many people started to Flame the Dell Computer thread?
Did you find any negative comments at all about Dell?

How many POSITIVE comments were found in this thread?

Oh, and what location did you go to to talk to the manager?

Well, to further add on to this, and again, not a word of a lie, while i was at work today, talking to my GF from work, she went offline. She normallycomes back on fairly quickly, but this time didn't. After about an hour I got a text message from her, turns out the USB panel on the front of the case fell inside the case, and now she can't get her USB ports to work (Which she has a wireless usb adapter plugged into)...

I'll have to report back on the damage tonight when i take a look at it.

[gprime]

Do not write under this line:


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[Nubee]

MDG owner of somethin. look back in the 300+ threads bashing MDG it'll show up.

Did he posts his 2 cents in this thread? Can't seem to find his post, would love to learn more about new technology exclusive to MDG ;)

[User Name]

Nice.


MDG and their scams make baby jesus cry. :cry:


And that baby jesus grew up to be Jesus...

if only the million page Rogers threads were this interesting to read I wouldn't have to jump to the last page all the time... page 10 and going.....

[Kwirky]

a decent Canadian-operated company

:lol:

Anyways, since I was interested in the Horizon 3000 model, I asked a few questions about it, including the specs, warranty, etc. Basically, he said that they currently didn't have that one in stock but had a different model and they were willing to accomodate with whatever upgrades and modifications I was willing to make within reason. This took me a bit by surprise since they falsely claimed that the system was available for immediate pick-up more commonly known as the bait-and-switch.I asked him about the video card bait-and-switch trick (downgrading to a lower quality videocard) . first he shook his head and he said the X300 is a pretty old ATI model one of the first PCI expres models ever made and that the Intel Media graphics acelerator (because it's manufactured by the same company as the CPU and motherboard), is integrated more effectively into the motherboard as opposed to a third party brand and performs faster in games and 3D. and that ATI even come out with a X1800 which is the latest model, many generetins ahead of x300, so the X300 is ancient. He even showd me the pictures. Basically he said the advice i was getting from this forum was bull$hit that you guys were clueless.

AHAHAHAHAHAA!!! I almost fell out of my chair laughing at that one! First off, it's not a bait-and-switch (offering a product that you don't have to get customers in to buy something else). It's fraudulent advertising. Secondly, the X300 is in an entirely different class from the GMA900 - the X300 is 2-3 times faster than the GMA 900, and as such will add about $100 to the cost of the system as it is a discreet GPU - ie not integrated. And let's face it, when have you ever seen an integrated device do a better job than one that is dedicated to a particular function?

Long story short, I decided to get the computer he was showing to me, he said after negotiating with his manager he was wiling to upgrade the 17" lcd to 20" perfectly flat monitor (this was a no brainer, who wouldnt ask for 3" more),
Yeah, nice. Drop a $350 LCD for a $300 CRT. Excellent move.
gave me a lexmark multifunction printer (i made sure that the cartriges were inside since i heard complatins of missing cartriges), an mp3 player/ a digital camera (kinda crapy but oh well, it's free. Can't complain), a bunch of other free items, a usb cable (for $15 or someting like that),
Go to your local dollar store - where they'll sell you one for $1. Hell, even Staples don't charge $15!

he even threw in a spindle of blanks cd's, an aol cd, etc. after tax ,the total came out to $1035.
:lol: An AOL CD? Really? Lemme guess, that was an 'upgrade' from Shaw/Rogers/Telus/Sympatico? :lol:

Also, wasn't this a $699 system when you posted the original deal? How the hell did you end up paying $1035 after getting all of those 'free' upgrades???

oh ya one more thing, he gave me a fast internet 10/100 SOHO (or some brand like that) network card for FREE (well it was $39.99 - mfr = free)

Nice you just paid for something (even if it's just tax if you get the rebate back) that is integrated on 90% of all new motherboards - yours included, I would imagine.

Moral of the story: don't read and believe everything you hear on the Internet. To be honest with you, I had a pretty $hitty experience as an RFD member here getting some lousy responses from you guys. I think that's the last time I'll ask for any advice from here from dip$hits who think they know more than Bill gates or something.

Okay, most people were giving their honest opinions, but if you're only interested in calling them names for trying to warn you of a bad purchase decision, I'm sure most of them would rather not see you around here again.

[whoisthis_95]

There is nothing hot or a bargain about an MDG computer ...

[fmpsportsguy2]

moberator you should inquire about their return/order cancel policy

Look through this thread, be advised that the intel 900 is the worst graphics card on the current market. hopefully they gave you a different card for $9.99.

if you are curious as to why and are not convinced by this thread, please PM me or discuss within this topic.

I did check over your posts and you've never had a console before, correct. And your posts say you are 19 so it's very much alright to be inexperienced with technology, you have quite a few years to go to learn more about computers. If you are looking for games I guarantee this computer purchase will not allow you to play 3D games on the PC. You will pay your every last penny trying to upgrade this computer for gaming. It is effectively a scam because they probably told you it's the best card, and their ads say it can play any game.

If you are not into gaming it is still advisable to not purchase it due to the poor performance of their technical support. You probably have not read in this thread, that former employees and customers of MDG have witnessed them toss in bad, used and broken parts. I would advise to do so. A purchase of this magnitude when you could not afford a $100 console could put you in a situation where you will lose 10x the money. A non-gamer is much better off getting a $300 DELL.

Just trying to clarify the deal for you.

wow you are so NICE..and I mean that...I have a 13 year old son who knows more about technology at his age than I did. You are forgetting that anyone 20 or something knows everything about computers, cell phones, video games, and ends up educating their parents to many of the new technologies. So this guy was one of the first contestants on survivor and accidently was lost during the first episode and just got back. He saw steve nash and realised, hmmm I got the jingle in my head, the basketball guy says buy, RFD members suck and I can't find a future shop with a $600 computer deal.

[spol]

once again, thank you mods for keepin the fun. :) :razz:

[Bordello]

This thread needs to be on the front page. These MDG computers aren't gonna sell themselves. This is a hot deal. BUY BUY BUY!


























/sarcasm. Don't buy.

[sorjue]

Actually if you've ever heard of a feature called suspend to ram, it powers the memory when the system seems off. It was my mistake, and no they didn't charge me... They fixed it for free!

If Intel is junk, well I hate to tell you... Most of the processors out there are Intel... and I guess everyone has junk.

Lastly the more I read these posts... the more I realize most of you posting are these shotty little chinesse places selling your crap your cousins in China are making for you. No wonder you guys hate MDG...

Wow... this guy is not only a tool, he's a racist one. Thank God. It's the racists that are smart that are dangerous.

And I LOVE how he talks about how great Intel is, but he switches it to processors. Yes, please compare Intel PROCESSORS to ATI VIDEO CARDS. Based on this logic, then ATI and NVIDIA make the best Processors too.

However, he's not all wrong. MDG makes a GREAT product. I've been using an old MDG computer I found in the office for 6 months and it's fantastic! The best footrest I've ever had. Perfect height and length. (Don't worry, they bought this a long time ago before we had an IT dept and I'm sure the MDG computer was just junk from some poor sucker's home. We only buy IBM laptops now).

[George W. Bush]

I can tell you guys that I was going to buy this MDG... But as the review is -, then I think I'd better stay out of their stuff...

Don't know if it's a good decision, but as my exp in PC is less than your, so I'll stay with you. ;)

Not a good decision. If you want a pre-built machine, go NCIX, CanadaComputers or TigerDirect...

Trust me - the machine from NCIX that I bought 4 years ago is still running! :)

[yuprules]

or this deal:
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=234232

[madman604]

http://www1.ca.dell.com/content/products/features.aspx/dt_3100?c=ca&cs=CADHS1&l=en&s=dhs

[mahjongmaniac]

Wow... this guy is not only a tool, he's a racist one. Thank God. It's the racists that are smart that are dangerous.

And I LOVE how he talks about how great Intel is, but he switches it to processors. Yes, please compare Intel PROCESSORS to ATI VIDEO CARDS. Based on this logic, then ATI and NVIDIA make the best Processors too.

However, he's not all wrong. MDG makes a GREAT product. I've been using an old MDG computer I found in the office for 6 months and it's fantastic! The best footrest I've ever had. Perfect height and length. (Don't worry, they bought this a long time ago before we had an IT dept and I'm sure the MDG computer was just junk from some poor sucker's home. We only buy IBM laptops now).

^ :lol: LOL :lol: ^

5 thumbs up for the review! http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gifhttp://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gifhttp://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gifhttp://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gifhttp://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif

[spol]

Just when MDG thought this thread is gonna get lost I bumped it. :lol:

BUMP

[terry_mah]

It's cheap because it's socket 478. Socket 478 is discontinued and no longer made. The cpus and mobos are being phased out. All producers, both intel and mobo manufacturers are liquidating their current stock to make way for newer cpus. Your getting ripped off. And just so you know, 3ghz of intel speed just doesn't cut it, at all anymore.

[168]

I hope the OP got in on the WoW deal as well because he has MDG power to spare!! :lol:

[terry_mah]

Oh boy ...

Before anyone else comment on the "quality" (or lack there of) of MDG computers, I actually want to make a comment on the following advertised item.

"* Radeon X300SE 256MB Hypermemory - Free Upgrade to Graphics Media Accelerator 900 - World Class Graphics"

Whow these guys call Intel Media Accelerator 900 "world class graphics"? And they consider it a "free upgrade" over a dedicated Radeon X300SE that does not take memory away from main system? Do they even know what they are talking about?
Hyper memory is actaully when the GPU takes system memory. But this is called hyper memory to mess with people. Honestly, For a basic comp for which all you wanted was a 3 ghz processor, you could buy a cheap 2.4 ghz processor *p4 of course* And due to you obvious GREAT knowledge of computers you could probably o/c that to like 3.6 or 4 ghz..atleast? The mobo and the chip would be about 300, and twice the speed of any crap mdg could cramp up your ass for that price. Don't get pissed at redflag deal-ers because they have knowledge of computers, be pissed because you don't and you just spent upwards of 1k on some **** computer.

[craigcloneclone]

If anyone has a recent fully upgraded MDG computer we should pay to send it in to PC Gamer for them to review. After all, they do review Alienware PCs quite often and it might be fun to see if MDG could beat the 90% scores those PCs regularly get.

They might have to sacrifice the warranty though. PC Gamer would probably want to open it up to see what makes it run so fast.

Alternatively we should arrange a LAN party for MDG-only computer owners and film a documentary of how much fun people can have with them.

[masterhapposai]

I have discovered the secret behind MDG's "WORLD CLASS GRAPHICS" which defeats any other video card and according to MDG "Plays any game" eventhough it's normally the slowest card in the world and can't play any game.

MDG pours it's secret sauce on it, which cools it down. As you know, cooling down a computer makes it go faster. Once at this speed the games go so fast that the human eye can't recognize it. That's why it appears to go slower and not even move, and it even fools benchmarking programs.

Just remember those dragonballZ fights, when Goku moves too quickly you only see a blur or him standing still. This is the same science used by MDG engineers.

It is also why Chuck Norris' roundhouse kicks sometimes appear to be in slow motion.

[Siefer999]

LOL! nobody has the balls to post the MDG Boxing week "Deals"

I got my flyer in my local flyers today :lol: :lol:

[itsyours]

I have discovered the secret behind MDG's "WORLD CLASS GRAPHICS" which defeats any other video card and according to MDG "Plays any game" eventhough it's normally the slowest card in the world and can't play any game.

MDG pours it's secret sauce on it, which cools it down. As you know, cooling down a computer makes it go faster. Once at this speed the games go so fast that the human eye can't recognize it. That's why it appears to go slower and not even move, and it even fools benchmarking programs.

Just remember those dragonballZ fights, when Goku moves too quickly you only see a blur or him standing still. This is the same science used by MDG engineers.

It is also why Chuck Norris' roundhouse kicks sometimes appear to be in slow motion.
Hey MH,
You only a few posts away from 1000. :cheesygri

[spol]

So I decided to printed the thread, then headed over to the MDG store first thing in the morning


did they read the part where I told stuff about their moms?

[LegiT]

LOL! nobody has the balls to post the MDG Boxing week "Deals"

I got my flyer in my local flyers today :lol: :lol:

Hehe...must we move the bashing to the MDG Boxing Week thread?

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=234545

[spol]

Hehe...must we move the bashing to the MDG Boxing Week thread?

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=234545


I like 'em both

[Feneant]

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2590786#post2590786

Win an MDG media center pc! I believe it comes with home insurance for when it catches fire and burns your house down.

[kaikara]

MDG is with out doubt not only the worst computer seller in Canada but also purposely will decieve you to get a sale. I work in IT and I can tell you a whole bunch of stories about the crap quality of MDG products. I know for a fact cause i have seen it with my own eyes - they use refurb and used parts in new computers without informing the person buying. I have seen new MDG computers that come with dust on the RAM or Heatsink - it was obviously pulled from a working system. Not only that they use crap components to begin with. There is also the bait and switch techniques and selling upgrades at way higher amounts then they are worth.

Their support is horrible. I have a friend who is manager at a computer store and they are always getting under warranty MDG systems in for repair because MDG tech support is so difficult to deal with or they just refuse to fix a problem.

Run don't walk away from an MDG system. It can never be considered a hot deal let alone a deal. You will get screwed in the end.

[mahjongmaniac]

LOL! nobody has the balls to post the MDG Boxing week "Deals"

I got my flyer in my local flyers today :lol: :lol:

no no no... plz post'em up... !

we need more MDG-bashing threads :lol:



gotta lov'em :cheesygri

[shabby]

Heh funny thread, surprised its not locked and rfd sued by mdg.
Its only a matter of time before their comps have a "Fastest video card on the planet! Geforce 7800gtx 512meg - free upgrade to Intel Xtreme Graphics 2 video card" :D

[ibmjoe]

Surely this was a joke, but man look at the hits its getting.

[Ziggy007]

Hyper memory is actaully when the GPU takes system memory. But this is called hyper memory to mess with people. Honestly, For a basic comp for which all you wanted was a 3 ghz processor, you could buy a cheap 2.4 ghz processor *p4 of course* And due to you obvious GREAT knowledge of computers you could probably o/c that to like 3.6 or 4 ghz..atleast? The mobo and the chip would be about 300, and twice the speed of any crap mdg could cramp up your ass for that price. Don't get pissed at redflag deal-ers because they have knowledge of computers, be pissed because you don't and you just spent upwards of 1k on some **** computer.

I think the Hypermemory 256 card has at least 64 megs of its own dedicated memory, but yes at least half of it is shared with the computer.

[fmpsportsguy2]

Hi all, I'm a new RFD member so to start things off, here's my first post which I found **very hot** for those of you looking for a complete desktop package. Now before I make the decision to buy this, I compared this system to what they sell at BestBuy, Futureshop,etc. and there's no comparison in terms of price. You'll be paying at least $300 more from those guys as opposed to MDG.

* Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor (3.06GHz, 1MB L2 Cache, 533MHz FSB)
* Microsoft® Windows® XP Home
* Genuine Intel® Motherboard
* 512MB Kingston DDR Memory
* Western Digital® 120GB SATA 7200RPM Hard Drive
* Radeon X300SE 256MB Hypermemory - Free Upgrade to Graphics Media Accelerator 900 - World Class Graphics
* 17" LCD Monitor
* DVD Burner
* Genuine Microsoft® Wireless Keyboard and Mouse
* High Definition Audio
* Microsoft® 2005 Software Bundle ($440 Value)

* Price: 699.00 + tax = 803.85
Now that's a tempting deal, you couldn't ask for more. Just the Microsoft keyboard and mouse is worth at least $70-90 I think. Plus you get 3 months of free internet from the ISP of your choice (Bell, rogers,etc). The deal sweetener is the 17" LCD monitor and the fact that it's a whopping 3GHz intel. I need to buy one of these for my aunt (she needs a desktop pc with lcd monitor).

My only small question is to get the final confirmation from someone who has bought MDG. They look like a big Canadian company (from the ad) with almost 30 locations. What's their quality / customer service / reliability / upgradability etc,etc? I'm gonna pay their store a visit tomorrow.

OK final and last rant, enough to stop this from ever being public

"very hot" yeah right, your from hell right..no-one sees an MDG deal as a hot deal

"no comparison in terms of price" from BB or FS"...dude your prescription for your glasses ran out 2 years ago..oh I'm sorry thats right you couldn't get the guaranteed item that day and had to spend $400 more... your an idiot!!

"upgrade to onboard graphics".... dude now you are just stupid

You actually bought this... you are a moron and should be BANNED from the internet. PERIOD!

[najibs]

free upgrade to Intel Xtreme Graphics 2 video card" :D

"MDG Xtreme System" with Intel's Xtreme Integrated graphics :lol:

[KochD]

man I must be super bored..
This thread is awesome..

[DJ_Peanuts22]

too bad their comps still sucks a$$

[itsyours]

More than 16,000 views and still going strong, heh?
I wish MDG computers can last as long as this thread.

[vitaminJ]

You actually bought this... you are a moron and should be BANNED from the internet. PERIOD!

No need to ban him.
1. He shows people what NOT to do,
2. We get a great laugh,
3. If he really did buy it he deserves what he gets. :D

[peroxide8888]

here's Dimos' other thread (in regards to his recent purchase):

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2592011#post2592011

'nuff said! :lol:

[BobW]

Nice to see karma come around full circle. Glad he upgraded to the intel graphics card ... won't have to worry about him cluttering up the WoW servers.....

[archaeo]

my god that would mean the poster was "on the level" and not actually some MDG stooge.

If anything, that's even more disturbing.

guess he got what he deserved.


edit: nah, he's probably still a stooge, just looking to RFD for some free tech support for some poor rube that got scammed buying an MDG to play WoW...

just IMHO

[najibs]

here's Dimos' other thread (in regards to his recent purchase):

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2592011#post2592011

'nuff said! :lol:

I'm trying to resist form posting in that thread "BTW, is your computer an MDG?" LOL

[terrybear]

MDG= MostlyDamagedGoods :lol:
or
MostlyDumbGuys computers you the best source for quality computers at the best prices in all of canada. :lol: :lol: :cheesygri :D

[hardcoredummy]

here's Dimos' other thread (in regards to his recent purchase):

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2592011#post2592011

'nuff said! :lol:


LOL OMG, that is soooo funny!

[WLJ101]

man, he is the hottest guy in RFDer in 2005!!!

[Siefer999]

here's Dimos' other thread (in regards to his recent purchase):

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2592011#post2592011

'nuff said! :lol:

Dimos.... we told you so :lol:

[madman604]

he works @ MDG, you'd think he might be able to ask another tech there :lol:

[Madcatmk2]

Nice to see karma come around full circle. Glad he upgraded to the intel graphics card ... won't have to worry about him cluttering up the WoW servers.....

At least he's got turkey. ;)

Surely this was a joke, but man look at the hits its getting.

Thanks Dimos, we needed that.

[65505201]

I saw the MDG TV ad tonight with Steve Nash and I wanted to puke. STEVE! WHAT ARE YOU THINKING!!!!

[robieG]

he works @ MDG, you'd think he might be able to ask another tech there :lol:

i dont think he's an employee anymore... i think he just got hosed by MDG... poor guy, too bad he coulnt be saved...

[mahjongmaniac]

MDG= MostlyDamagedGoods :lol:
or
MostlyDumbGuys computers you the best source for quality computers at the best prices in all of canada. :lol: :lol: :cheesygri :D

^ ROFL! :lol: :lol:

[terrybear]

^ ROFL! :lol: :lol:

Glad ya liked that 1 .... I thought of another 1 while reading this thread:

" MDG (MostDeceitfulGuys) will sell you a computer like no other on the market today. Made with genuine intel high quality componets to meet the high demands of consumers who demand a fast & high quality computer. "


Hmmmmm .. this brings me back to the time in 1999 when MDG got brought to court for selling peaple new computers that where almost 95% full of used componets they got in on trade ins. :evil: :lol:

It also reminds me of the time my friend upgraded from his 486 DX4 100& board on trade in for $349 he was supost to getting a genuine Intel CPU, Genuine Intel motherboard & tower ... he got a Genuine Intel 166 MMX cpu & a tower ..... BUT the motherboard was a diffrent matter ..... it DID have a genuine intel chipset on it ..... BUT the board was actualy a " Tomato " brand named El cheapo board .. :lol:

Needless to say ...... I have a few thoughts here ........

Maybe this person is this guy whom ya said is actualy soem high up guy @ mdg threadcrapping & what not .. IF not 1 of there employee's whom was asked to coem on here to do so. IF this is the case & if I was RFD I would investigate the matter further & as the saying goes .. whats good for the goose is good for the gander & serve them with legal papers.

Also .. the person whom started this topic & whom has let it go on to be like this I also think should be banned from the forum as I honestly view this as free advertising for sales for there company & should be forced to buy adspace for that purpose.

I also feel insulted by the poster of this thread as all I gave was a honest opinion of the mdg product & gave him honest advice on his course of actions. I as well feel the OP not only has disrespected my feelings & thoughts on the matter but also everyone elses who was willing to also take the time & help them & feel there is no room for such a individual in this forum / comunity.

[masterhapposai]

this has to be a joke..

he's read all our posts, we came back and proved to him that it won't run 3D

now he's acting baffled and still not admitting we're right or apologizing. doesn't add up.. :confused:

if this guy's for real : eat your lemon sucker! serves you right for coming on this board and breaking rules through disrespect and insulting others who were only looking out for the best for you

[Ryan]

All right, I don't think anybody is going to be picking up an MDG anytime soon and this isn't a deal discussion anymore. If people want to discuss the merits or lack thereof of a particular retailer, they can do it in off topic.

Lock.