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beatbox
Dec 15th, 2005, 05:49 PM
What types of jobs can you expect with an Information Technology Degree
if you do it in ryerson you get a B.Com
do it at UOIT you get a BIT
what can you pursue in this field and what about a Masters degree, what can you benifiet with this
thanks
illusion81
Dec 15th, 2005, 07:46 PM
Do it at Ryerson!!! All my friends that did it at UofT are still at home after 1.5 years of job hunting! I work at the TD Bank corporate office in Mississauga. My job title: Enterprise Technology Solutions Regulatory Compliance Analyst. We just did a bit of a reorg and I am up for an Associate Manager position. The two other analysts that work in my area completed the same degree at Rye. Just do yourself a favour and don't listen to UofT folks, they all think they are the *****. They will tell you that Rye is BS and that you won't get a job after doing your degree there. The truth is employers prefer the Rye IT degree over the Uoft IT degree as it's more hands on and you get the best of both worlds, business and IT. Before you decide to do the ITM degree make sure you like business type courses (accounting, statistics, economics, finance, b-management etc) and IT type courses (VB, C++, Java, HTML, DB - SQL, Networking etc.) For the first couple of years you are looking at 6 courses per term (2 terms per year) and afterwards 5 - 4 courses per term. So be ready to work your butt off! Keep your grades up (80%+) and pay 50% for tuition and be up to win different types of $ awards. I got both so my degree didn't cost me much. Those are just my 2 cents. Good luck with your degree!
beatbox
Dec 16th, 2005, 09:16 AM
sp what ype of jobs can you expect???
what about grad school what choices do i have for a masters....??
and your point about liking business....i havent realy done any business courses so i wouldnt be able to tell you......what can i expect in business courses. from what iv heard its confusing at first but once you get it you'll love it. but then again if you get how to do it you'll love any thing
thanks
zeroace
Dec 16th, 2005, 10:49 AM
sp what ype of jobs can you expect???
what about grad school what choices do i have for a masters....??
and your point about liking business....i havent realy done any business courses so i wouldnt be able to tell you......what can i expect in business courses. from what iv heard its confusing at first but once you get it you'll love it. but then again if you get how to do it you'll love any thing
thanks
I'll put in my two cents and hopefully it'll give you some insight into what career path you like. I don't know about the Ryerson degree, but an "Information Technology" career path can span into different ways since it's such a broad term that gets subjected into different categories. Primarily, it'll evolve around "Network/Systems Administrator" which is making sure an existing network is in top shape and rebuilding workstations. If you like working with servers and setting up workstations, this is a good choice.
The other path is the "developer/programmer." This is where teh VB, PHP, ASP, Java, HTML, SQL come into place. I don't categorize it as IT but some people do. This type of job is essentially writing software for a given task. Within IT, it'll primarily be on web applications (anything that isn't a simple webpage that has lots of different functionality)
As for what a masters will do career wise, that'll depend on the type of specialization you want. It is very different than the typical "IT" jobs you see. A masters degree in technology will focus on much deeper understandings of technology (software architect design, communication systems, communication protocols, communication medium such as fibre, wireless, etc.) A masters degree will be on researching into new technologies and discovering new ideas.
I think of it this way, an engineering degree or masters will be designing what the "IT" people would be using. But, that can be left for debate.
So, it depends on what you like to do. If you're unsure of what you like to do, I feel an engineering degree in computer,software or even electrical can give you a good basis on these careers in both the masters or IT fields. This is if you have any thoughts of doing a masters. If you want to be in only "IT" related careers, a technical college would be able to provide that without going through engineering at university.
I hope this gives you a better idea of what career path you want. If you have any questions, ask away.
beatbox
Dec 16th, 2005, 11:14 AM
im already doing computer engineering but its damn hard and im not doing well at all
so i still want to do something IT related but its just the job availability thats really vague
also when one does a masters will you get an MBA?
and with an IT field whay is it a B.Com at ryerson
BIT at UOIT
thanks
zeroace
Dec 16th, 2005, 11:42 AM
im already doing computer engineering but its damn hard and im not doing well at all
so i still want to do something IT related but its just the job availability thats really vague
also when one does a masters will you get an MBA?
and with an IT field whay is it a B.Com at ryerson
BIT at UOIT
thanks
A computer engineering degree is very tough. I'm in my last semester of computer engineering at U of Ottawa.
No. Not all masters will not get you an MBA. MBA is a Masters for Business Administration. And the BComm mentioned by illusion81 is a Business Management Program from Ryerson. illusion81 will have better information but I think it's primarily a business program with emphasis in the IT side of things.
Looking at the webpages of Ryerson and UOIT will give you a better understanding on what those programs have to offer.
beatbox
Jan 7th, 2006, 12:20 PM
:arrowu:
UrbanPoet
Jan 7th, 2006, 12:53 PM
ohh ITM? expect to make 60,000 a yr right out of university.
Thats what u wanna hear right? :cheesygri
like all careers the possibilities are endless. ITM is considered a mix of business and technology. When it comes to business, it really depends on the persons drive to get them however far they want. The Degree is just a lil step through the door that lets you get noticed.
beatbox
Mar 7th, 2006, 10:41 PM
:arrowu: :arrowu:
chickenbones
Mar 7th, 2006, 11:10 PM
Someone get me a job! I'm ITM :cheesygri wink wink associate manager illusion81.
beatbox
Mar 8th, 2006, 12:38 AM
Someone get me a job! I'm ITM :cheesygri wink wink associate manager illusion81.
are you a graduate from ryerson?
how were the courses you took?
sleepyguy
Mar 8th, 2006, 09:36 AM
hopefully within a few years i'll be and ITM graduate as well... only ITM Certificate thus far (but works towards degree). I have to admit the courses are WAYYY too easy thus far... but very practical though... I've been able to apply some stuff to current work (network admin). The project managment course are particularly interested... workflows and such. I've improved my presentation skills as well for work. All in all... a good investment (well work paid for it :))
fuhreal
Mar 8th, 2006, 09:28 PM
IMO
If your good on the books, but can't do anything else, your going to be worthless in the real world.
On the other hand, some companies will hire useless people and make them usefull.
Now to the feet ... You can take anything you want, and still end up without a job, especially if your ugly (sorry thats just how it is).
I work at a help desk and we have people here with engineering degrees that just can't find work. So they settle for here. I personally don't have any degree, I'm just no good at school but I can program network and setup server after server including databases, linux unix u name it. But I'm self taught.
So ... go for whatever u want, I don't think "where" you go to school is as important as your character and ambition.
spaghetti_1007
Mar 9th, 2006, 10:53 AM
I just graduated from ITM at Rye last year in April. I would say I had a tough time looking for a job and I know people in my program who graduated had a tough time as well. I think the program is getting better because they are teaching more specialized subjects and programs. Co-op would be your option if you can get into it but again I knew a lot of people who went back to the regular program from my year because they couldn't find a placement.
I know people who got jobs right from graduating are people who have connections, so I would highly recommend you to work on your networking skills.
I just landed myself a tech support job like three weeks ago after like 8 months of searching.
Is the degree worth it? For myself, I would not choose this program again if I had another chance and I would choose something that's more specialized. This is just my 2 cents.
I wouldn't mind you guys to give me some tips to find good jobs though! :)
Computer500
Mar 9th, 2006, 11:11 AM
"Fuhreal" is absolutely right about getting jobs.
I am a Seneca College student who takes something similar to the ITM program at Ryerson University, half business and half technical. I have excellent grades without marks below "B". I'm still in the process of finding a co-op placement and its especially difficult when it comes to the interview. Better start off with retail part time job, gain experience, then apply for large companies.
It depends on how confident you are in the interview, what you say, and how you look. :mad: