Memory Stick Pro Duo (BEWARE OF FAKES - READ if u plan to buy a mspd)

[blues45]

This look good? with free shipping

http://www.buy.com/retail/searchresults.asp?querytype=home&qu=memory+stick&qxt=home&dclksa=1


Do they ship to Canada at all? too lazy to look around

EDIT: Just read on and see how this thread develops... interesting

[CSR]

broken link

[teyang]

I think they only ship to USA.

[akz]

try it on ebay they have ok prices..

[Montague]

Twenty something rebate is only available to US residents so price is 73US$+.

[Dave12345]

I bought one from ebay for much less

[marklin]

Same here, you can get one shipped from within Canada (to avoid duties) from eBay for under $100 CND.

[andyyuen]

you think you got a good deal from ebay.. infact.. u got jipped and u don't even know it

for memorycards

CHECK.. you might already have FAKE SONY/SANDISK/LEXAR card

for real ones, the txt on the front and back is clear.. and it is carved into the plastic..

for the fake ones, the text on the card is only printed on.. it can be rubbed off with your thumb after a week of use..

as far as the packaging.. it will say adapter included PRINTED ON THE PACKAGE
not as a separate item for free.. if it saids it is free and the package never even mentioned about the adapter.. it is fake

as i see right now on ebay.. 99% of the memorycards.. no matter where it comes from.. Hongkong, china.. UK, USA.. all fake..

so they are not covered by warranty...
good luck with them

[teyang]

That's right, I am planning to buy a 2GB MS pro Duo for my PSP, I did some research on internet and I found most of the MS cards on Ebay are fake(I only found one is real Sony), the price are higher than you buy from China directly, I believe the reasonable price in china is between $120-130 CAD.

[eqlsp]

wow never heard of that info before
whered u get that from

[andyyuen]

if it is too good to be true.. then u know there is something wrong

the Sony Highspeed 2gb pro duo is like 600dollars @ sonystyle.ca
even Sandisk 2gb ultra II pro duo(which i recommend getting over sony) is at least 280 or so before tax.. and u can't even find it anywhere at pacific mall nor can u find @ NCIX, TD, CC

there are many gaming store @ pacific selling the Sony Highspeed Pro duo 1gb for 150+ dollars CDN.. those are ALL FAKE.. so you beware....

the only store that sells 2gb sony GENUINE is the camera store besides the escalator.. and it is the normal one.. not the highspeed.. and it is 285 dollars before tax.. u might be able to bargain for a bit.. but i don't think they will budge too much...

can't really find 2gb memcards anywhere for a good price :(

and i verified that Canada Computers.. where i bought my Sandisk 1gb Ultra II pro duo from.. is REAL.. i saw many fakes at Pmall

so... beware

[andyyuen]

for starters.. i bought a fake 1gb sony highspeed without knowing.. broke in less than a week.. PSP can't even read it.. card reader can't read it..
when i send it back to HK.. i found out that the seller's paypal account got frozen

now i don't FRICKEN GET MY MONEY BACK... i emailed paypal.. emailed ebay.. they ignored my email.. this guy needs to give me a refund and my money had nothing to do with whatever he was doing with his account

so... from then .. i knew which one is real.. which are fake.. cuz i did comparison...

come on.. a 600dollar 2gb highspeed pro duo sony for 110dollars when it is 400-600 everywhere else.. u KNOW something is not right

i suggest u not even attempt.. the chip inside isn't even highspeed.. it is just some crap quality generic chip...

[cko64]

wow never heard of that info before
whered u get that from
They just make it up and try to sound like an expert. There is no source, no link, just hearsay.

[eqlsp]

i jus got this, looks exactly like it
except for that little little copyright thing

http://akamai.edeal.com/images/catalog1722/folder4487/img679098.jpg


can u tell if this is a fake?

[andyyuen]

They just make it up and try to sound like an expert. There is no source, no link, just hearsay.


if you dont believe it.. you don't have to.. i have already filed a report with ebay and paypal.. with pictures of real and fake side by side.. and what i got, what i returned, shipping and tracking number included..

i already spent the time typing this up so users will beware.. since this is a discount forum.. not a "proving fake - beware" forum.. i am not gonna spend time and energy uploading to my webspace and posting it..

sure.. go ahead.. buy from those games stores at pacific and get a fake card.. do u wonder why they give 1 week warranty??

and a 600dollar card is 110dollars on ebay?? sent straight from china??

just because YOU don't know.. don't pretend YOU are the expert..
i am not trying to pretend to be.. just saying what i know.. u don't have to bash

[andyyuen]

mike.. check the text at the back.. the text should be carved into the plastic.. not just printed..

from the looks of the package.. i think it should be real.. just have to check the card to be sure..

u know those ppl.. changing the package to imitate real ones isnt that hard

Andy

[Jeff146]

wow didn't know there will be fakes out there

Do you have any links that can backup what you are saying?

Thanks

[nsd]

You took pics ? Awesome! Can we see ?
www.imageshack.us

[eqlsp]

mike.. check the text at the back.. the text should be carved into the plastic.. not just printed..

from the looks of the package.. i think it should be real.. just have to check the card to be sure..

u know those ppl.. changing the package to imitate real ones isnt that hard

Andy


the writing on the back more pertudes out rather than engraved in, it definetly isnt jus printed on

[teyang]

If you package has this red "PSP Corresponding(Corresponding in Japanese)" mark(The genuine one should be in English and with small fonts), it's fake MSPD.
http://tvgame.yesky.com/imagelist/05/10/j3x0yd7sha9u.jpg

By the way, there is no fake Sandisk MSPD in market right now.

[eqlsp]

mines not sony, but it has a yellow sticker at the top red part inside the packaging at say "PSP Compatible"

[ryan123]

the guy is notjoking around, when u go buy memmory cards in china or HK there are always 2 kind the genuine and the fake. The fake usually works but it may fail after a while, and with slower speed.

[eqlsp]

i noticed at all the photos of the blue sandisk card has this symbol on all the photos but not on the card
®
the ® symbol seems to be in the photos but not the card
does this mean anything?

[andyyuen]

picture number 1 - this was the complain picture i sent to seller
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/7510/memcard6nx.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

- here... #1 , card was the 1gb sony highspeed pro duo that i got from ebay, as you can see, the gold foil does not align, and there are "holes" that doesn't all align at the top

#2-4 are REAL cards, 2,4 from sandisk, #3 from my sony PSP when i bought it.. as you can see, the color of the foil is already different AND #3 perfectly aligh to the top, and the black colour and txt colour is slightly off between #1 and #3

picture #2 - an example of a FAKE 1gb card from sandisk u notice the position of where the memory stick is placed(comparison to picture #3)
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/6637/461sbl9ti.th.jpg (http://img202.imageshack.us/my.php?image=461sbl9ti.jpg)

picture #3 - an example of a REAL 1gb pro duo from SANDISK
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/5682/sdmspdh1gmain026ih.th.jpg (http://img202.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sdmspdh1gmain026ih.jpg)
note the comparison from #2 above

picture #4 and #5 - FAKE SONY packaging
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8645/c918zx.th.jpg (http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=c918zx.jpg)

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/7729/ca032tb.th.jpg (http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ca032tb.jpg)


as of now i still haven't found a REAL sony highspeed package picture.. but i went to sony store @ scarborough town center, and it is NOT like that
the real ones look something more like #6
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5366/011b1ip.th.jpg (http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=011b1ip.jpg)
even then i don't know if this is real or fake.. but at least the package looks exactly the same as the sony store ones

here is the proof CKO64
shove it

[Nuprapture]

I've got a Sony memory stick pro duo 1gb for 100 if anyone is interested. dont worry, it's not a fake.. inspect it, test it.. do whatever u want. I'll also accept a trade for a motorola hs850 headset

[CSR]

i think that there's different packaging for different regions right?

[andyyuen]

well in terms of the japanese mark on the package.. i am not sure about that one..
the ones in japan might ahve that and it might be real..

but 99% of the fake ones doesn't include the adaptor in the packaging and say it is a FREE addon on the side... so... if u see that.. then it is given that it is fake...

i have seen real package from japan that has the jap mark and the adaptor inside

so.. ya...

[Jeff146]

So no adaptor inside the packaging means it's a fake?

[andyyuen]

i don't know.... i can't say 100% ...

but the ones @ sony store all have it
soooo....

u decide

[nsd]

Thx for the awesome pics.

[teyang]

Another way to differentiate them is to check the seal of the package, the real one has full seal, but the fake one only seals six points.

[Jeff146]

i don't know.... i can't say 100% ...

but the ones @ sony store all have it
soooo....

u decide

you scaring me lol just bought 2 off ebay

but check it out here

http://216.239.37.104/translate_c?hl=en&u=http://www.sony.jp/products/ms/lineup/index.html%23Duo&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dsony%2Bjapan%2BMSX-M2GN%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D

It says adapter not included so it still might be real

EDIT: Translation didn't work just put the link in google I guess

[andyyuen]

http://www.sonystyle.ca/commerce/servlet/ProductDetailDisplay?storeId=10001&langId=-1&catalogId=10001&productId=1001474&navigationPath=n46740n47386

"# Included Accessories: MSAC-M2 Memory Stick Duo Adapter and Storage Case"

[Jeff146]

yes but that's in Canada, meaning canadian packaging

we're buying Japanese packaging at least from the picture and it doesn't include an adapter as shown in my link if you translate it of course

[teyang]

Here is a link from one of the forum in China, this article tell you how to differentiate real and fake MSPD. Any one who can read Chinese please check this article, My English is not good enough to translate it, if you are good in English please translate it.

http://www.cngba.com/read.php?tid=310801&keyword=%D7%E9%B0%F4

[andyyuen]

i look at the article, here is what it saids

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/2841/120mo.th.jpg (http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=120mo.jpg)
example of real package (NO PSP + jap word logo on top right)

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7406/10wo.th.jpg (http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=10wo.jpg)
this is an example of a fake package ( psp+ jap word logo on top right)

can u tell a difference??

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9152/63nn.th.jpg (http://img210.imageshack.us/my.php?image=63nn.jpg)
example of the PSP ready jap logo

the article also mentions that the ppl making these fakes are starting to develop new packages, so the fake ones in the future will be IDENTICAL to the real ones

i guess u can only tell by looking at the card


http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/396/21zh1.th.jpg (http://img507.imageshack.us/my.php?image=21zh1.jpg)

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/9114/38cw.th.jpg (http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=38cw.jpg)
(comparison of height)

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/5856/47yj.th.jpg (http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=47yj.jpg)
(comparison of contact point)

real and fake, side by side, which one is real? which one is fake??

turns out

- fake is on the left side, real on the right
- fake is slightly higher than the real(not that u can compare, since u only got 1 card)
- fake's contact points are lighter in colour, real is darker
- fake's imprint is lighter, and not carved in, real is carved in and darker

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/9697/70bi.th.jpg (http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=70bi.jpg)
these 2 are both fake

the writer of that article also mentioned that the shape is not exact, therefore he had problems pulling one of them out from the PSP
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/8647/86bp.th.jpg (http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=86bp.jpg)
as you can see here he has to use tools to get it out

i hope this translation helps..

i didn't translated it word for word, because it would take a long time

[jointo]

Really Jap version 2G (http://www.kakaku.com/akiba/hayamimi/05/05/hayamimi20050604_msproduo2gb.htm)
Fake ones' packaging is actually base on the jap version, but still can tell there are differnces in backboard color and package seal.

[andyyuen]

i don't know jointo.. u have a good picture there

as i said before, i don't know if the real package has the PSP ready logo on it
and plus the picture you have only has 6 binding spot on the plastic..(which these chinese article claim was fake

so.. it is really hard to determine from the package now

but i am sure u can still tell from the card... don't know how you are gonna do that on ebay tho... as you notice.. all the seller only post a picture of the card now.. not the package..LOL i wonder why (to get rid of old stock?)

so.. it is left for RFDers to decide, if it is too good to be true.. then be ready for what you are in for when you bid on ebay

[jointo]

well..... they don't make packings came out of nowhere, appearently it's the jap version packing they r copying. If u get a MSPD in Japan, there will be a "PSP Compatible" in Japanese on the top right. It's not 100% correct to tell if it's fake just by that logo. From the look of the package, seal is a better way to tell since real ones have rectangular seals while fake ones have dots, and real ones have 2 more seals on the top. Also the backboard color is realtively different. It's probably more accurate to tell if a MSPD is fake using both characteristics on the package and those on the MSPD like u mentioned in previous post.

[andyyuen]

no .. that wasn't my post.. i was just translating for another person when he posted that chinese site

[kloan]

wow, thanks for the heads up man.. i didn't even think of it.. was considering buying a card on ebay.. not anymore.

i wonder if anyone here is selling fakes..

[andyyuen]

yup.. i already noticed many at local game stores..
pacific game store
ehe

[kloan]

ya, but i mean on RFD..

[teyang]

Thanks for the translation, maybe the fake MSPD has red mark like Japanese version, but if the price you see is far lower than the one you saw it on the Sonystyle, I believe it should be fake MSPD.

[divx]

so what's the usage difference between real and fake? besides some fake get stuck in psp

[akito925]

I've heard from one of my friends that you can reprogram the memore stick to having more memory then what it really does hold. is that possible?? can you really do that??

[madman604]

Andyyuen, thanks for all your work.

BTW also the fake cards use thinner PCB's if you compart the part where the gold contacts are, just underneath it is the PCB.

it is slightly thinner than genuine Sony PCB. yes I have compared them side to side.

the pcb in the fake is so thin the contacts dont even touch the pind in the card readers or cell phones.

this has been mentioned, but the packaging is sealed poorly on the outsides, IE fake = 6 round spots to seal . . . . . , SONY = 12 straight slashes - - - - -
or similar.

i got screwed on ebay already, but the seller sent me another brand card. for $20 who cares. it worked.

I strongly recommend NOT buying off ebay for these items.

[CSR]

I've heard from one of my friends that you can reprogram the memore stick to having more memory then what it really does hold. is that possible?? can you really do that??

It will recognize it as more than the capcity, but u can't actually use it.

[divx]

It will recognize it as more than the capcity, but u can't actually use it.
just like the hard drive hack right? useless.

[andyyuen]

well since you ask me what the usage (durability) would be... i am guessing that u will plan to buy a fake one.. due to price

my advice is .. dont.. they are not durable at all.. when mine came.. it worked completely fine for the first 2 days.. then.. all the text at the back starts to come off.. and the card occasionally doesn' read on the PSP and hangs right in the middle of the movie.. and i had to rub it w/ fingers and putting it in and out MANY times before it works again.. then.. after 2 days.. it just completely died

since u are paying like 90something CDN for the 1gb pro duo.. u might as well pay 30something more dollars for a Sandisk 1gb Ultra II pro duo @ CC.. for sure that is confirmed real, there is life time warranty as well..

right now my card doesn't work.. i sent it back to HK already, and the seller's account is frozen by paypal.. therefore i lost 120CDN.. i already tried msging paypal millions of times, completely ignored, called their longdistance "help" line, no one answered and cost me 10dollars in long distance call.. ebay was no help either... so.. i lost that money... if i only paid 20dollars more.. i could have had a working card....

so.. don't risk it...

[thedon]

yeah never a good idea to buy fake ones..... ncix is selling a 1gb card for $88

[mpt]

Same here, you can get one shipped from within Canada (to avoid duties) from eBay for under $100 CND.

You can get one shipped for under 100 from ncix.

[Jeff146]

well since you ask me what the usage (durability) would be... i am guessing that u will plan to buy a fake one.. due to price

my advice is .. dont.. they are not durable at all.. when mine came.. it worked completely fine for the first 2 days.. then.. all the text at the back starts to come off.. and the card occasionally doesn' read on the PSP and hangs right in the middle of the movie.. and i had to rub it w/ fingers and putting it in and out MANY times before it works again.. then.. after 2 days.. it just completely died

since u are paying like 90something CDN for the 1gb pro duo.. u might as well pay 30something more dollars for a Sandisk 1gb Ultra II pro duo @ CC.. for sure that is confirmed real, there is life time warranty as well..

right now my card doesn't work.. i sent it back to HK already, and the seller's account is frozen by paypal.. therefore i lost 120CDN.. i already tried msging paypal millions of times, completely ignored, called their longdistance "help" line, no one answered and cost me 10dollars in long distance call.. ebay was no help either... so.. i lost that money... if i only paid 20dollars more.. i could have had a working card....

so.. don't risk it...


Who did you buy it from?

BTW I'm buying it from ebay because I can't find anywhere where they are selling 2GB MSPD cards, if anyone knows I would appreciate it

[andyyuen]

Who did you buy it from?

BTW I'm buying it from ebay because I can't find anywhere where they are selling 2GB MSPD cards, if anyone knows I would appreciate it

well.. all the 2gb pro duo on ebay(my seller is from HK).. are all from china/hk... there are only about 2 pages of auctions for them right now... i think 99% of them is fake.. trust me.. i want to find them too.. for my PSP.. there is only one place that i know that sells LEGIT 2gb pro duo(not highspeed) it is at pacific mall, a camera store beside the escalator

but it is too steep.. 285CDN +tax..

canada computers, tiger direct, NCIX, none of them have it.. i went to pacific mall website and called all the computer stores, none have it, none can even get it...

so... ya...i guess u just gotta stick with the 1gb for now and wait another few months

[andyyuen]

even if the seller saids he is from UK or Austraila or something..
#1 just look at the package

#2 read the fine print, most of these "UK" seller will say item ships from HK, so basically an alternate account, even canada seller ships from HK... like wtf? doesn't make sense does it?

#3 i have seen many sellers put a sticker on the back of the card to cover the back txt, they say it is a "warranty sticker" but from the above proofs.. u know what they are doing..

i suggest u getting sandisk

here is the benchmark on a PSP, for read and write test
it has all sandisk and sony models

http://www.utsc.utoronto.ca/~02yuenyu/MSTest.pdf

i find the default mem stick very slow.. so i went to get the ultra II from sandisk... i find it faster...

i didn't do this test, i found it on the web.. so.. props to whoever spend the time doing that

[teyang]

If you can buy goods from USA, Dell has Sandisk 2GB Ultra II pro duo for sell, the price is $219.99, and 20% off until Wednesday.

Here is the link (http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?sku=A0521396&c=us&l=en&cs=19&category_id=2999&page=external)

[andyyuen]

can u post the coupon code plez?

haha i am gonna attempt to call DELL.CA and see if they have it or will price match it

[MMMMMike]

as i see right now on ebay.. 99% of the memorycards.. no matter where it comes from.. Hongkong, china.. UK, USA.. all fake..


Well I just ordered and received a Sandisk from Hong Kong, it's legit.

Besides your own "opinion" do you have any evidence to support your 99% statement? Sounds like fear monguring to me.

Mike

[Jeff146]

Well I just ordered and received a Sandisk from Hong Kong, it's legit.

Besides your own "opinion" do you have any evidence to support your 99% statement? Sounds like fear monguring to me.

Mike

You bought a 2GB one or a 1GB? and which seller did you buy them from?

[MMMMMike]

It was a 1Gb, $85Cnd after 10% discound and shipping.
This guy (http://feedback.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=itechshophk)

Mike

[gohtor]

about 1 month ago I had the same issue with an ebay purchased sony branded memory stick. The deal was a bargain but what we found out shortly was that the batch was all *bad*. After about 3 weeks waiting for another batch I was just given a refund on my paypal account.

During that whole time I compared the duo cards sold on ebay (mostly hk sellers) to the ones sold locally at a b&m store and I already had a suspicion that there's fake ones floating around passing off as genuine due to the price difference.

I recall a long while back when pc ram was insanely expensive that there was factories in china producing ram that passes bio check but don't work. this is probably no different. =)

best of luck to those that have these unstable ones.

[teyang]

can u post the coupon code plez?

haha i am gonna attempt to call DELL.CA and see if they have it or will price match it

http://www1.us.dell.com/content/topics/promo.aspx/snp/snp_select_sale?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&~lt=popup

[andyyuen]

Offer excludes:
SanDisk 256MB & 512MB Cruzer Micro USB Flash Drive
SanDisk 2 GB Memory Stick PRO Duo Card

:(


well u can compare the packages of the fake and real on ebay.. to be honest.. i don't even see a genuine package on any of the auctions.. if they posted the package or not is another story

and even if.., don't you think they can post a package of a real card and send u a fake one?? what guarantees u get from just the picture.. which is the same as word of mouth of them telling you it is real??

so.. it is up for you to decide whether you want to risk it or not.. maybe u are lucky to get yours as real.. but most people don't have that luck

and if u compare just the package details.. almost ALL the 2gbs on ebay are fake.. see for yourself before you start bashing me that it is my own opinion

[teyang]

Offer excludes:
SanDisk 256MB & 512MB Cruzer Micro USB Flash Drive
SanDisk 2 GB Memory Stick PRO Duo Card

:(



Sorry, I didn't notice it's excludes......
My fault.

[tep]

It was a 1Gb, $85Cnd after 10% discound and shipping.
This guy (http://feedback.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=itechshophk)

Mike


Any comment on this type of Sandisk card anyone? Item number: 7567561964 or http://cgi.ebay.ca/SanDisk-1GB-Memory-Stick-PRO-DUO-Gaming-for-PSP-M1-T1_W0QQitemZ7567561964QQcategoryZ18870QQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem

Its the 1gb from HK or Australia.

[RedLightning]

Gah, now you guys have gotten me all paranoid/worried.

I bought this locally in Toronto a few weeks ago. It came in Japanese packaging like so:

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/6666/boxback0aq.th.jpg (http://img503.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boxback0aq.jpg)
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/2386/boxfront7xg.th.jpg (http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boxfront7xg.jpg)

But I figured it was just imported, since 2GB was still pretty rare locally. Now there's all this talk of fakes running around. Overall from what I've read in the thread, it seems to be incredibly close to an official Japanese MSPD, but the text on the back of the card is bothering me. It's pretty faint now, and I don't recall if it was like that from the beginning or if it started to rub off.

Here's some HQ clickable comparison pics. Left is the stock 32MB PSP card, middle is the 2GB card I bought, and right is a Sandisk 128MB MSD.

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/1912/bottomslanted2dt.th.jpg (http://img503.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bottomslanted2dt.jpg)
http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/7421/frombottom1ga.th.jpg (http://img400.imageshack.us/my.php?image=frombottom1ga.jpg)
http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/9638/fromtop1sj.th.jpg (http://img400.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fromtop1sj.jpg)
http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/8008/laidflat18wl.th.jpg (http://img400.imageshack.us/my.php?image=laidflat18wl.jpg)
http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/3198/topslanted0lc.th.jpg (http://img400.imageshack.us/my.php?image=topslanted0lc.jpg)

The insert in the box, front and bottom
http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/4959/packaginginsideinner6lt.th.jpg (http://img400.imageshack.us/my.php?image=packaginginsideinner6lt.jpg)
http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/7721/packaginginsideouter6el.th.jpg (http://img400.imageshack.us/my.php?image=packaginginsideouter6el.jpg)

Anybody? :confused:

[mitboi]

I JUST bought a 2gb sony memory stick high speed pro duo last night off ebay and was happy for the bargain that it was. then i came upon this thread. i immediately emailed the guy and told him to stop the transaction and refund me thru paypal. frankly, i didnt think he would but he did in the end. i just think that should share what he told me with you guys...

"ok
if you don't need it any more
i will refund your money
the fact is real 2GB sony MS will not under $300
and you will not able to find any real sony MS on ebay
even from US, UK seller, they all sell China Version
thats the truth
good luck
bye"

this guy was pretty honest i guess...
so guys, if u are looking for real stuff.. please be aware of fakes on ebay.......

i only lost 10$ due to the currency exchange overnight (thats a lot of change of in one night.. how much did the US$ drop overnight?!)

[andyyuen]

[QUOTE=RedLightning]Gah, now you guys have gotten me all paranoid/worried.

I bought this locally in Toronto a few weeks ago. It came in Japanese packaging like so:



well redlighting.. from the package .. it looks real...
the text is suppose to be more faint in the real than the fake.. BUT.. it is not flat on the plastic.. it is carved in... so.. if it is bumpy.. it should be real..

my fake one... the 1gb entirely rubbed off.. LOL
and the back "made in japan" was entirely nonexistant after 2 days

[andyyuen]

for those of you who is still following this post

if they want to sell you a fake in the first place...
what makes you think they won't photograph a real mem package.. and send u a fake one?? and send u the real one they photographed??

all the US, Canada, Austrialia, UK sellers are all from HK.. all send from HK or china...
not trying to be racist..cuz i am chinese myself and i came from HK... a lot of those ppl are all in for the money.. i don't trust them...

if it is too good to be true... then maybe it is not...

why bother paying half price or 2/3 of the price for a fake card.. wound up dead unusable and have to pay for another one when u can just pay 1/3 more to have one that lasts many years?


so it is the risk you take... and u choose that...

[andyyuen]

but Redlighting

your package seems perfect enough.. but the text seems to be all gone.. i don't know how often u touch that area.. but if the text is not carved in.. and even the printed text is rubbed off.. then it is a fake..

as u compared yours with the 32mb sony.. i don't even see text on your middle one...

i am not trying to freak u out, BUT

*note* as the chinese article mentioned, these ppl have already been developing a perfectly identical package, so even if the package is "real" or seems "real" the card inside might not...

so... u can only check it out yourself.. i don't know what to tell u...

[Siefer999]

for those of you who is still following this post

if they want to sell you a fake in the first place...
what makes you think they won't photograph a real mem package.. and send u a fake one?? and send u the real one they photographed??

all the US, Canada, Austrialia, UK sellers are all from HK.. all send from HK or china...
not trying to be racist..cuz i am chinese myself and i came from HK... a lot of those ppl are all in for the money.. i don't trust them...

if it is too good to be true... then maybe it is not...

why bother paying half price or 2/3 of the price for a fake card.. wound up dead unusable and have to pay for another one when u can just pay 1/3 more to have one that lasts many years?


so it is the risk you take... and u choose that...

yes, their location stated does not always indicate their actual location. chinese/hk sellers often put canada/uk/usa as their location so you think it is fairly local. if the seller says they are in canada and shipping in canada is more than shipping in the states, they are bsing you

[MARZ]

Nice work on this, all of you guys. I hope that this will teach people a vital lesson, if it sounds to good to be true, it is!

The "deal seekers" is a polite word for what they really are, will always get worked over by scams. People use your comman sense when dealing with E-Bay and the likes, just like one guy said here in his post. "they are in it for the money"

[r0underz]

If you are really concerned about getting a fake, buy a real one, and return it with the one you got from ebay inside the pack..

Therefore you will forsure have a real one.

[akz]

If you are really concerned about getting a fake, buy a real one, and return it with the one you got from ebay inside the pack..

Therefore you will forsure have a real one.

rofl thats not a bad idea :P but whats the refund policy @ sonystore?

Btw Ive just confirmed it I emailed previous buyers of the common sellers on ebay and I have confirmed that bestplace4you is selling fakes im just waiting for emails from the others ... another user said that he believes it to be fake but it works and there is no problems there... so he dosnt mind as longas it works so I guess as longas it works its ok.

[story]

I don't get the people behind this.

They basically have the technology to copy it already. Since it works for at least two days. It means they must be steps away from making it perfect. Why don't they just do it.

[kcjchan]

I don't get the people behind this.

They basically have the technology to copy it already. Since it works for at least two days. It means they must be steps away from making it perfect. Why don't they just do it.

They break easy because of the electronic components inside and the quality of the manufacturing machinery. Obviously, if they made it perfect it would cost a lot more. I've heard that for all electronics, there's a certain percentage that won't pass the QC and are dumped according to the company's standard. Also, all chips perform differently in reliability and are all prone to error. The more well established brands are willing to buy the better batch of the chips at higher prices while other brands may only offer enough for the worse performing batch. Hence, these chips may have been dumped by the manufacturer and then purchased by another company at extremely low prices. They may in fact be the same chips, only made with worse quality.

[teyang]

After I read all the information on Chinese PSP website, I found it's crazy there, they almost have all the fake PSP accessories, like battery, headphone, remote control, MSPD, AC adapter and Hori protector. Even Logitech pocketgear case has a fake one.

So, if you guys want to buy PSP from Pmall, I know maybe the price is cheaper than FS or BB, but it's really not a good idea. The stores there are not very honest, you won't know if they replace the accessories. By the way, lots of Hori protectors there are fake.

[marklin]

Well here's my dilemma, I bought the Sony 1GB stick from this reputable seller (http://feedback.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=fhao6566&item=7559405767&iid=7559405767&frm=1883&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:SID) about a month ago, so far the card has performed pretty well. Upon inspection, I noticed that the package was with only 6 point seal, all written in jap with no mention of adapter. But on the back of the card, the text is carved in and the golden contacts show no sign of wear or defect.

Is my card real or fake? the packaging is more doubtful, but the card just shows and works perfectly... obviously I need a better authentication method!

Mark

[teyang]

Well here's my dilemma, I bought the Sony 1GB stick from this reputable seller (http://feedback.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=fhao6566&item=7559405767&iid=7559405767&frm=1883&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:SID) about a month ago, so far the card has performed pretty well. Upon inspection, I noticed that the package was with only 6 point seal, all written in jap with no mention of adapter. But on the back of the card, the text is carved in and the golden contacts show no sign of wear or defect.

Is my card real or fake? the packaging is more doubtful, but the card just shows and works perfectly... obviously I need a better authentication method!

Mark

I highly suspect it is a fake one, but can you scan the back of the package and post it here?

One more thing, the warranty from Sony is 5 years for MS Pro Duo and 10 years for High Speed MS Pro Duo, there is no 3 years warranty. Chinese fake card sellers usually offer 1 or 3 years warranty in China. But you never know he or she will exist on Ebay for such a long time. :D

[andyyuen]

Mark.. if it is the 6 "dot" seal.. then the package should be fake... they probably just took a soldering iron and punch that hole there LOL.... the real ones have rectangular long seals...

at the end of the day, you bought it already, as long as it works.. and no defects.. even if it is a fake.. who cares??? but just that there is a high % that it will break after a week or two.. but since u already got it for so long and no problem still, you might be the lucky one... i wouldn't worry too much

at least yours didn't break in 2 days like mine did

[marklin]

I think I am just going to bite the bullet and keep it and hope it lasts long (knock on wood..) I don't think it's worth the trouble to send it back for refund, since I have to pay shipping and a restocking fee...

Come to think of it, I think even if the back text is engraved, it should be easy to forge too, after all, they are the master of copcat..

I'll just think twice from now on if I ever need to bid on electronics at eBay..

btw, is there a way to test whether the stick (fake or real) is high speed or not? dumping a big file and time it?

[jointo]

Don't know about your 1G MSPD, but the 512M MSPD they are selling is fake for sure. A English packing with Japanese PSP compatible logo? That's just not right.

[andyyuen]

Mark

http://www.utsc.utoronto.ca/~02yuenyu/MSTest.pdf
there are the speed test for various mem sticks, sony and sandisk, regular and highspeed

they copy files onto PSP and time which one is faster
maybe you can make a comparison

[rayesyn]

good tips. thanks :)

you think you got a good deal from ebay.. infact.. u got jipped and u don't even know it

for memorycards

CHECK.. you might already have FAKE SONY/SANDISK/LEXAR card

for real ones, the txt on the front and back is clear.. and it is carved into the plastic..

for the fake ones, the text on the card is only printed on.. it can be rubbed off with your thumb after a week of use..

as far as the packaging.. it will say adapter included PRINTED ON THE PACKAGE
not as a separate item for free.. if it saids it is free and the package never even mentioned about the adapter.. it is fake

as i see right now on ebay.. 99% of the memorycards.. no matter where it comes from.. Hongkong, china.. UK, USA.. all fake..

so they are not covered by warranty...
good luck with them

[r0underz]

rofl thats not a bad idea :P but whats the refund policy @ sonystore?

Btw Ive just confirmed it I emailed previous buyers of the common sellers on ebay and I have confirmed that bestplace4you is selling fakes im just waiting for emails from the others ... another user said that he believes it to be fake but it works and there is no problems there... so he dosnt mind as longas it works so I guess as longas it works its ok.

Nono, stay away from the sonystore when doing this. Just buy a gigapack from an EB games...They are more concered about looking in the box making sure all of the items are inside, not whether or not the memory stick SLIGHTLY looks different.

Also, if you are an adult, kids at a store like this would definately not question you!

:)

[akz]

Nono, stay away from the sonystore when doing this. Just buy a gigapack from an EB games...They are more concered about looking in the box making sure all of the items are inside, not whether or not the memory stick SLIGHTLY looks different.

Also, if you are an adult, kids at a store like this would definately not question you!

:)


naw man I have a 2gb card... they can look at it all they want the 2gb card will still be in there since half of the world couldnt tell the difference i doubt that the sonystore will ...

[marklin]

If you are really concerned about getting a fake, buy a real one, and return it with the one you got from ebay inside the pack..

Therefore you will forsure have a real one.

I don't think it'll work that way. As far as I know with Walmart (the king of return merchandise acceptor), once the package is opened (it's completely sealed package so you'll have to cut it open for real stick!), no refund allowed, it's treated the same as software packages... believe me, I've tried to fool them once... without success..

[CSR]

Mark

http://www.utsc.utoronto.ca/~02yuenyu/MSTest.pdf
there are the speed test for various mem sticks, sony and sandisk, regular and highspeed

they copy files onto PSP and time which one is faster
maybe you can make a comparison

Hey you go to UTSC... me 2.

[akz]

I don't think it'll work that way. As far as I know with Walmart (the king of return merchandise acceptor), once the package is opened (it's completely sealed package so you'll have to cut it open for real stick!), no refund allowed, it's treated the same as software packages... believe me, I've tried to fool them once... without success..


but the real one shouldnt be fully sealed as well should it? it should only be sealed with 6 seal points right? unless the NA packaging is fully sealed.. then its not possible to return... Im going to stop by sonystore on the way to work/school the next few days to take a look.. ill let you all know.. itll be alot easier once its made widely available @ walmart/td/cc etc.. ESP ST00PLES wana screw em over again..

@marklin hhee yeah I faced the same delima trying out the BBV -> WM -> EB game switch I was left with opened pack of games. Walmart is still walmart I just used plastic wrap and re-wrapped it and the cashier took it with no problems heh :P

[Brian2k1]

Glad I came across this thread! I just bought one off ebay and I contacted the seller immediately. He came clean and told me the truth, none of the HK memory sticks being sold on ebay are legit, and offered to refund my money, I just have to send it back when it arrives. So much for getting a good deal can't believe how shady they are.

[marklin]

No, according to Andyyuen, the real stick should be FULLY sealed! At least I know all the Sony memory sticks sold here at major stores (BB, FS, WM...) are all fully sealed, hence no return possible..

[akz]

Glad I came across this thread! I just bought one off ebay and I contacted the seller immediately. He came clean and told me the truth, none of the HK memory sticks being sold on ebay are legit, and offered to refund my money, I just have to send it back when it arrives. So much for getting a good deal can't believe how shady they are.


everyone who posts that plz post a link to the name of the seller so we all know to avoid thanks..

[akz]

No, according to Andyyuen, the real stick should be FULLY sealed! At least I know all the Sony memory sticks sold here at major stores (BB, FS, WM...) are all fully sealed, hence no return possible..

give me a night to think about it or ill just ask my friend who runs a sealing plant to see if he can jus seal it again or something let me do some further investigation ^^ (where theres a return policy there is a way ~~)

[wheelz]

Crap! My 2GB Memory Stick fake just got shipped yesterday :mad:

[Jeff146]

give me a night to think about it or ill just ask my friend who runs a sealing plant to see if he can jus seal it again or something let me do some further investigation ^^ (where theres a return policy there is a way ~~)

Just make sure you pay by cash or they can trace you

[teyang]

Telling you how to recognize the MSPD is to let you avoid to buy a fake MSPD from Ebay or Pmall, not to fool Sony or other retailers, you replace a fake MSPD then other people buy it, that's not fair to them. What's different between you guys and those dishonesty sellers? It's cheating!

[MMMMMike]

Telling you how to recognize the MSPD is to let you avoid to buy a fake MSPD from Ebay or Pmall, not to fool Sony or other retailers, you replace a fake MSPD then other people buy it, that's not fair to them. What's different between you guys and those dishonesty sellers? It's cheating!

I couldn't agree more.

MODs, please move this thread... it's not a hot deal.

Mike

[Z]

Does anyone know if Paypal has buyer protection against stuff like this?

for starters.. i bought a fake 1gb sony highspeed without knowing.. broke in less than a week.. PSP can't even read it.. card reader can't read it..
when i send it back to HK.. i found out that the seller's paypal account got frozen

now i don't FRICKEN GET MY MONEY BACK... i emailed paypal.. emailed ebay.. they ignored my email.. this guy needs to give me a refund and my money had nothing to do with whatever he was doing with his account

so... from then .. i knew which one is real.. which are fake.. cuz i did comparison...

come on.. a 600dollar 2gb highspeed pro duo sony for 110dollars when it is 400-600 everywhere else.. u KNOW something is not right

i suggest u not even attempt.. the chip inside isn't even highspeed.. it is just some crap quality generic chip...

[Brian2k1]

I'm sorry to tell you this but paypal buyer protection is a joke and ebay is buy at your own risk. Yes, thats right if you read the fine print of the paypal buyer protection policy it states that "funds can only be returned if funds are available in the sellers account." Basically, paypal incurs none of the costs, it would realistically be impossible because the potential for fraud is great. If the seller empties their account you receive nothing, and when it happens to you, your impression of the security on buying through ebay will completely shatter like mine did when it happened to me. In fact, paypal will not even reveal the sellers identity which makes fraud through the paypal/ebay system extremely easy to produce and difficult to protect against. I explained all this to paypal and they told me thank you we already know and there is nothing we can do about it at this time. So in the future buy from reputable sources like power-sellers, pay through credit card not direct deposit because you can have your CC company do charge backs and buy things that are small enough in cost that you wouldnt lose very much to hurt you financially.

[pilotpen]

All this is soooo scary!!

has anyone heard of fake Sony USB Memory Keys? I'm looking into getting this 4gig one for like $50 or something. the seller DID say it's from China...is it even worth the money? anyone with experience? do these last?

[kcjchan]

I don't think it'll work that way. As far as I know with Walmart (the king of return merchandise acceptor), once the package is opened (it's completely sealed package so you'll have to cut it open for real stick!), no refund allowed, it's treated the same as software packages... believe me, I've tried to fool them once... without success..

Not software, but computer hardware.

[andyyuen]

All this is soooo scary!!

has anyone heard of fake Sony USB Memory Keys? I'm looking into getting this 4gig one for like $50 or something. the seller DID say it's from China...is it even worth the money? anyone with experience? do these last?


well depends if u are lucky or not. some fake USB keys.. the chip and pcb inside really sucks.. and they would be very slow and sometimes not detect in certain ports.. i read about it somewhere.. don't remember the link now..

again.. it is your risk to take


for the ppl that said they would buy a fake and then buy an original and return it back to the store.. what is the difference for that than stealing? you are risking yourself for a chance to get busted...

for a 600dollar stick.. i am sure the ppl that work @ sony store have already been trained to identify it.. ur just waiting to be caught....

u could try.. but i don't recommend it.. only sonystore has the 2gb at themoment... so... ya... don't cry about it if u get caught

wouldn't u find a guy suspicious and come in with 700dollar cash to pay a memstick and return it 2 days later? heh..

[madman604]

All this is soooo scary!!

has anyone heard of fake Sony USB Memory Keys? I'm looking into getting this 4gig one for like $50 or something. the seller DID say it's from China...is it even worth the money? anyone with experience? do these last?

I garuntee its fake.

[Mystix]

All this is soooo scary!!

has anyone heard of fake Sony USB Memory Keys? I'm looking into getting this 4gig one for like $50 or something. the seller DID say it's from China...is it even worth the money? anyone with experience? do these last?

yep, heard countless stories, the 2gb are seen the first few days, but never fully utilized. At the end it just dieds. Some users were lucky to make it working again but only 52mb is seen.

[akz]

I went to sonystore @ markville and checked out the 2gb they only have the PRO not the duo I saw the 1gb high speed they all come with adapter. But they are not fully sealed, they are sealed with rectangular spots all around the box edges.

Guys dont worry .. I have been in contact with several ebayers who have confirmed it to be a fake duo pro but they all tell me the duo pro works fine and one who I msgd has had it for over a month and nothing is wrong with it so I guess as they told me as long as it works its ok.

:)

[CSR]

AKA "Water Merchandise" as they say in Chinese.

[andyyuen]

AKA "Water Merchandise" as they say in Chinese.

it is a bit incorrect CSR :(

L¨ = if you purchased your memcard from sony store, legit
4¨ = "water merchandise" is when let say u imported something from US without paying duties or taxes, still a real card

¨ = "mouse merchandise" is when the item is stolen, but still real product
G¨ or A¨ = fake merchandise, when it is a replica :)

haha

on a side note, if anyone still want to purchase a Sandisk 1gb Pro duo ULTRA II (faster than all the models, including the gaming model) for their PSP PM me @ andyyuen416@hotmail.com , i just bought it off Canada Computer last week, 100% real, i want to buy 2 gb thru dell.com & amerifriend.. so.. thats why i want to sell it off, it is 113+tax when i got it, i have the receipt, i am asking for 115, which still save u 15bux tax, can arrange pick up :) @ UTSC or scarborough

:)

[akz]

it is a bit incorrect CSR :(

L¨ = if you purchased your memcard from sony store, legit
4¨ = "water merchandise" is when let say u imported something from US without paying duties or taxes, still a real card

¨ = "mouse merchandise" is when the item is stolen, but still real product
G¨ or A¨ = fake merchandise, when it is a replica :)

haha

on a side note, if anyone still want to purchase a Sandisk 1gb Pro duo ULTRA II (faster than all the models, including the gaming model) for their PSP PM me @ andyyuen416@hotmail.com , i just bought it off Canada Computer last week, 100% real, i want to buy 2 gb thru dell.com & amerifriend.. so.. thats why i want to sell it off, it is 113+tax when i got it, i have the receipt, i am asking for 115, which still save u 15bux tax, can arrange pick up :) @ UTSC or scarborough

:)

hey hey hey dont diss the A for hhaha sometimes A for is better then the real shizzzz :P lol (cough) LV (cough)

[sullione]

Well I just ordered and received a Sandisk from Hong Kong, it's legit.

Besides your own "opinion" do you have any evidence to support your 99% statement? Sounds like fear monguring to me.

Mike

well if retail on the card is over $350+ for a 2gb and every local computer store in the area is selling them for $300+ but magically you can find it on eBay for $160 from HK/China (some of the counterfeit capitals of the world)

I would be suspicious of it.

[jtcb]

How did you determine that it is fake at the first place? The pic on the auction looks legit, just the simplified chinese on the packaging that is different from the US packaging.

[wheelz]

Just a heads up, but do not buy from tech_google on ebay. He sells fake memory sticks. Don't be fooled by his high rating.

[akz]

Just did some fruther research and went to the stores and looked at some real packages here are some real packages - First Few Pics

This is what I got from ebay, unlike what the poster said the back "MADE IN JAPAN" is not printed on but is etched on .. spent a few minutes rubbing it to try to get it off lol. And mines came with a "GENUINE" sticker on the back and the pins do not have holes or disfigured.. also the memory stick did not get jammed or logged in the PSP. and I just took my PSP and 256Sandisk and notice no differences... heres the pics:

- http://img232.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=real012pt.jpg

pretty sure its genuine.

[Frankie3s]

Found on Ebay.....

As most of the people already know, Sony's Memory Stick Pro Duo card is the format for both Sony digital camera and Sony PSP. In additional, Sony does not manufacture its memory card anymore. As holiday season is coming, I would like to point out few factors and few suggestions for USA consumers as many customers have already complaint to us. Price for memory card is dropping almost every month. However, there is no such thing as buying a Memory Stick Pro Duo 1GB for as low as 50 USD. The cheapest I have seen was if some big guys are dumping goods in order to turn into cash. However, that does not happen on a lot of sellers. What I would like to point out is believe or not, there are fake Sony Memory Stick Pro Duo out on the market and it is happening on ebay. These are not made by Sony nor made by anybody authorized by Sony. They are being manufactured in Hong Kong and China. The major difference is "stabilities". Rather or not memory card will be able to run with over thousands of “cycles” or read/write. This type of card might not fail after few read or write. But after thousands of use, this type of card cannot be use anymore. When that happens, you cannot return this card to any USA Sony because card does not contain the same serial number which is hard coded onto the chip itself. This normally happen when trying to receive saved games. Genuine memory cards are extremely hard to tell. Not until you open up the card, you cannot see if it is genuine or not.

It might sounds scary as I am going to tell you that our customers have shown us memory cards from overseas that can be detected as 1GB card but when 900MB file is stored it will then no long be able to open that file. It happens because it is not a real Sony memory card. It is because the chip inside of this so called 1GB card might be only 256MB chip. It is then hard coded as 1GB. Since computer is so easy to be fooled, it can actually read the hard coding and turn it into a 1GB card. However it is then became a problem because a 900MB file cannot store on a 256MB chip it is impossible. Does not matter how much you compress, it is impossible to do so. Therefore, when you buy a card, it might not be detectable unless you store a real large file. However what you have to remember is a 512MB chip can only store about 496MB information it is because of the different definition between “Mega” and “Kilo” among hardware manufacture and software writer.

The best way to do is buy from a well known source with ability to provide information such as manufacture info, or warranty info.

[gprime]

A bit off topic here, but today I nearly won a SanDisk 4GB USB thumb drive for less than $100. But then I stopped bidding because I remember this thread.

Just wanted to ask ... are thumb drives (you know, those USB sticks) on eBay usually what they say they are? Or are they usually fakes like these memory cards?

[jtcb]

A bit off topic here, but today I nearly won a SanDisk 4GB USB thumb drive for less than $100. But then I stopped bidding because I remember this thread.

Just wanted to ask ... are thumb drives (you know, those USB sticks) on eBay usually what they say they are? Or are they usually fakes like these memory cards?

I want to know too. Which seller are you talking here? Last week I found an US seller selling some SanDisk 8GB USB thumb drive for ~$200. I then went to Sandisk website but didn't find any info on 8GB. The largest is only 4GB..

[gprime]

I want to know too. Which seller are you talking here? Last week I found an US seller selling some SanDisk 8GB USB thumb drive for ~$200. I then went to Sandisk website but didn't find any info on 8GB. The largest is only 4GB..

I already forget the seller, sorry.

Wow, 8GB ... yeah that definitely sounds fishy. I think I'll hold off for a bit until I find a seller with genuine stuff.

EDIT: Found it. This isn't the same auction, but same seller and same item:

http://cgi.ebay.ca/4GB-SanDisk-Cruzer-Mini-USB-Flash-Drive-Brand-New_W0QQitemZ8732781106QQcategoryZ99247QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem

[jtcb]

I already forget the seller, sorry.

Wow, 8GB ... yeah that definitely sounds fishy. I think I'll hold off for a bit until I find a seller with genuine stuff.

EDIT: Found it. This isn't the same auction, but same seller and same item:

http://cgi.ebay.ca/4GB-SanDisk-Cruzer-Mini-USB-Flash-Drive-Brand-New_W0QQitemZ8732781106QQcategoryZ99247QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem

What is the reason for a seller to keep User ID private? Talk a look at the 8GB I was talking here (http://search-completed.ebay.ca/search/search.dll?sofocus=unknown&sbrftog=1&fstype=1&from=R10&satitle=8gb+SanDisk+Cruzer+Mini&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&sargn=-1%26saslc%3D3&sadis=200&fpos=ZIP%2FPostal&fis=2&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&so=Show+Items&fsop=1&fsoo=1). You can't tell if it is real or fake by just looking at the picture. Both your seller and mine have 100% feedback.. also look at their feedback..

[gprime]

Yeah, I don't get the private bidder thing either. Seems like they've only got something to hide :cheesygri

But 100% feedback.. I guess that's a good sign.

Now that I see the 8GB's... I want one too.. :D

[SuckaB]

Sony branded Duo sticks are pretty hard to find...
what about the Sandisk ones?

[Jeff146]

Sony branded Duo sticks are pretty hard to find...
what about the Sandisk ones?

I think it would be even harder especially for the 2GB ones

[CSR]

"To report a suspected counterfeit product visit www.csa-international.org or call CSA Group's Anticounterfeiting Team at 416-747-4278"
-24 Hours News Services

[SuckaB]

comparing 1GB memory stick pro duo (since 2gb are so hard to find...)

is Sandisk SanDisk Gaming Memory Stick PRO DUO 1GB (yellow one) better? or its Ultra II Memory Stick Pro Duo 1GB?

wait actually, also compare Sony Memory Stick Pro Duo 1GB

which one should I buy? they're all about the same price.

thx

[Oni-kun]

I have reason to believe someone on RFD has sold me a fake Sandisk Memory Stick Pro (non duo). I"m not sure yet so i wont point fingers. But look at this

All three of these images were taken from the sandisk site, futureshop site, and canada computers site. Look where it says 1GB

http://www.sandisk.com/Assets/Products/130/1GB_Angled.jpg

http://www.futureshop.ca/multimedia/products/large/10044483.jpg

http://www.canadacomputers.com/ProductImages/006853/946.jpg

Now look at mine:

http://www.students.yorku.ca/~edmondw/sandisk.jpg

[envizion]

sorry to hear that man, i hope u didint pay that $75.00 or best offer. get ure money back!,

[Oni-kun]

It is indeed real to the best of my knowledge. I went to futureshop and looked at the one on the shelf and it said 1.0GB on the card as well. So must be some of them say 1GB some say 1.0GB.

[tallshorty111]

All these 2 GB MSD are under $200 US, even as cheap as eBay but they are from legit online business. Would these be fake also?

http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_attrib.php?page_id=152&form_keyword=2+gb+memory+stick+duo&rd=1

[kcjchan]

I have reason to believe someone on RFD has sold me a fake Sandisk Memory Stick Pro (non duo). I"m not sure yet so i wont point fingers. But look at this

All three of these images were taken from the sandisk site, futureshop site, and canada computers site. Look where it says 1GB

http://www.sandisk.com/Assets/Products/130/1GB_Angled.jpg

http://www.futureshop.ca/multimedia/products/large/10044483.jpg

http://www.canadacomputers.com/ProductImages/006853/946.jpg

Now look at mine:

http://www.students.yorku.ca/~edmondw/sandisk.jpg


I think you should email Sandisk, they seem to respond to questions like these as they really hate people faking their products.

[elephant]

Just found this thread from link. Excellent thread. And a big thank you to Andyyuen. Nice job and good information.

I just don't get some of the posters here down talking or bashing Andyyuen's warnings and suggestions. He is a great guy in warning us all of a potential danger. If you don't want to listen, then that's fine, go spend the $100 bucks and buy from eBay or some store in Pac. Mall on something that's normally $285 + tax at a real Sony store. Then don't come crying after 3 days when it stops working. Isn't it obvious? How can any store make money from giving you such a huge discount on an authentic memory stick ? Obviously fake.

And if we all just keep buying these un-confirmed MSDuos from these sources, that just encourages MORE fakes to be made. Increase DEMAND = Increased SUPPLY. So the earlier we stop this kind of purchasing, the better we all are in the end. I wouldn't want to lose a saved game or photo because someone tricked me by making a almost exact copy of a memory.

Believe everyone when they tell you, HK and China can copy ANYTHING ! Even food ! Fake goose, fake duck, fake vermicelli noodles that can cause cancer. Not kidding you. Just look at China or HK news. You'll see a new FAKE thing everyday.

Anyhow, thanks again to everyone that's showing us how to tell the difference between fake and real.

[blues45]

i was about to buy a 2gb memstick from ebay for my k750i, had no clue that fake ones even existed before this

[rubberhead]

This is a picture I found from geeks.com,
http://www.geeks.com/imageshare/S/300x300/SDMSV-1024-A10-unit.jpg
So what you bought may not be a fake one...

I have reason to believe someone on RFD has sold me a fake Sandisk Memory Stick Pro (non duo). I"m not sure yet so i wont point fingers. But look at this

All three of these images were taken from the sandisk site, futureshop site, and canada computers site. Look where it says 1GB

http://www.sandisk.com/Assets/Products/130/1GB_Angled.jpg

http://www.futureshop.ca/multimedia/products/large/10044483.jpg

http://www.canadacomputers.com/ProductImages/006853/946.jpg

Now look at mine:

http://www.students.yorku.ca/~edmondw/sandisk.jpg

[Ghetto_Dad]

How about the Sandisk color PSP editions??? Any "fakes" on that???
Im checking out the 2gb ones

[CFRTim]

I have a feeling these are the same memory stick pro duo, that sale under SONY brand on ebay. Made in China, as you can see from the back of the pack. Nothing wrong with "Made in China" as long as it's made by SONY. BTW, most brand name electronics are made in China, due to cheap labour. However, if it's a brand name, they will still try and keep a decent standard. Here is the ebay for them: http://cgi.ebay.ca/DUO-2GB-Top-Micro-Memory-Stick-Card-4-All-Sony-Devices_W0QQitemZ7573568480QQcategoryZ103410QQrdZ1 QQcmdZViewItem
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/CFRTim/top_microduo2g-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/CFRTim/top_microduo2g-2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/CFRTim/top_microduo2g-3.jpg

[blues45]

hmm never heard of "Top_Micro" i dont think i'd ever go near that

[EvilNeileeeee]

OK Chaps, I found this thread very helpful when I was trying to work out if the card my brother bought me was a fake or not. Turns out that it was and I only began to question it after the thing fell apart in my 1 week old camcorder and I can tell you I wasn't best pleased.

Currently pursuing a refund through the EBay seller in the UK who also has a real shop so I'm semi hopeful. I thought if I posted some pictures of the counterfeit card it might be helpful to other potential buyers.

Things to note are the text on the underside does not feel rough and rubs off in seconds with a thumb and also on the front you will see the text in the red box isn't perfectly straight. Ignore the bit missing on the end, we had to pick that out the camcorder with a paper clip, otherwise it was a minimum of £233 repair bill (about $560ca).

I've linked the images to keep them higher res so you can see the problems I mean, rather than reduce the quality and post them as images.

Hope you find it useful.

Cheers

EN

Click here to see top of the card image. (http://www.neileeeee.co.uk/Memory/Front.jpg)

Click here to see the underside of the card image. (http://www.neileeeee.co.uk/Memory/Back.jpg)

[CSR]

Wow, that card looks SOOO fake.

[akz]

dang urs looks soo fake... i dont know but mines doesnt rub off I guess you bought afake one sry to hear that man hope everything works out for u but pp and ebay are useless..

if anyone is interested.. here are the comparasons that I have done myself between my own 2gb duo pro (which is still going strong, nothing rubbing off none of my connectors have been chipped or etc)

http://img232.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=real012pt.jpg

[Wing Fat]

Is it 100% for sure that the legit Memory Sticks will have the engraved printing on the back?

I bought a 2GB Pro Duo and it appears to be legit in every way except the etched letters on the back. There is no printing on the back whatsoever. I threw away the packaging so I can't look at that, but there are no other warning signs of counterfeit besides the missing printing on the back (the metal contacts are all perfect and look exactly like the 32MB Duo that came with my PSP, the card came with the Sony Memory Stick adaptor in the package, it definitely holds 2GB and reads/writes quickly, it is exactly the same size as the 32MB Duo that came with my PSP and I have no problem inserting/removing it from my PSP).

I bought it off eBay but from a US seller with like 2000 99.9% positive feedback, and the price I paid was a good deal but nothing outrageous like the deals direct from China (it was about the same price as Buy.com). I suppose he could have been buying from China and reselling, but I don't know. As I said it works perfectly, but I'm also using it for my digital camera so my main concern is that it's going to fail right when I've got some irreplaceable pictures on it.

Can anyone confirm that no printing on the back is a 100% ironclad guarantee that it's a fake?

[Wing Fat]

Here is a follow up to my previous post...

I noticed that on my 32M stick (the one that came with my PSP) the text on the front is printed right on the stick. However, with the 2GB I got off eBay there is a sticker on the front with the text printed on it. (To illustrate, if you go to sonystyle.com and look at the 2GB Pro Duo it looks like the text is printed right on the card. If you look at the 2GB High Speed Pro Duo though, you'll see that it looks like a sticker on the front. Mine has the sticker, although it's not a High Speed, just a regular Pro.)

After closer inspection, I noticed the back of my stick also has a sticker on it. My 32M stick does not have a sticker. I originally thought there was no text printed on the back, but if you look really close at just the right angle you can see some faint text. I'm wondering if there is engraved text on the stick that's showing through the sticker slightly. I am tempted to try and remove the sticker to confirm this one way or the other, but I'm afraid I'll just make a big mess of the back of the stick.

I went to my local Sony store today to look at their Memory Sticks. Their 2GB Pro Duo clearly had a sticker on the front and was not printed directly on the stick--just like mine. However, I don't know what the back of the stick looked like, and the sales guy didn't want to open one to show me. I asked him if he had an opened one I could look at, and it was an old blue 16MB stick, which doesn't allow for any kind of comparison.

So now I'm really wondering whether or not mine is fake. Even though it doesn't have text printed on the back, I'm wondering if some of the newer legitimate sticks (the ones with the stickers on the front) have stickers on the back without the printed text. I was REALLY tempted to buy the one from the Sony store, but I wasn't happy about shelling out the money just to see if mine is fake or not.

Does anyone have a newer 2GB stick with the sticker on the front? A couple of pages ago in this thread someone posted some pics of their stick and it looked exactly like mine--sticker on the front, and sticker on the back with no printed text. Besides the missing text, everything looks legit with my stick.

[bigthecat]

How's this for a genuine fake?

http://members.iinet.com.au/~amonty/psp/1.jpg
http://members.iinet.com.au/~amonty/psp/2.jpg
http://members.iinet.com.au/~amonty/psp/3.jpg
http://members.iinet.com.au/~amonty/psp/4.jpg
http://members.iinet.com.au/~amonty/psp/5.jpg
http://members.iinet.com.au/~amonty/psp/6.jpg

[jtcb]

Geniuine one don't have chinese character for sure.

[The_Duke_Of_Eli]

Dammit; what has sony planned to do about this? This is a serious problem because they are losing business and are responsible for such a product. It is their product and they should be protecting consumers. We might have to start using authenticity numbers. It's not suprising we haven't seen any larger capacities then 2GB, if they were to release a 4gb stick they'd be in extreme short supply and the counterfits would be incredibly mass produced. Sure the sony store or futureshop/best buy is over priced on these things, but I just don't think it's worth the risk to support these mudder flippers halfway across the world screw innocent peeps.

[juched]

How's this for a genuine fake?

http://members.iinet.com.au/~amonty/psp/1.jpg
http://members.iinet.com.au/~amonty/psp/2.jpg
http://members.iinet.com.au/~amonty/psp/3.jpg
http://members.iinet.com.au/~amonty/psp/4.jpg
http://members.iinet.com.au/~amonty/psp/5.jpg
http://members.iinet.com.au/~amonty/psp/6.jpg

Who did you buy from?

I bought one from http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7575035638&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1

But I am nervous about my purchase... that is for sure.

[kcjchan]

Who did you buy from?

I bought one from http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7575035638&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1

But I am nervous about my purchase... that is for sure.

Shipping from China, that's the first sign that this deal may turn sour....
Good luck on that!

[peoples_Flip]

I'm really interested in picking up a 2.0GB Memory Stick Duo Pro from eBay as well. Could somebody post the names/sellers who are selling LEGIT 2.0GB MS Duos?

This would greatly appreciated.

[The_Duke_Of_Eli]

Who did you buy from?

I bought one from http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7575035638&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1

But I am nervous about my purchase... that is for sure.

I dunno. Its strange it says B.C. Canada but the product is shipped from China. The seller's ratings is good so that's a good sign, but the poor english begs to differ. I guess you'll have to hope for a good one. The price is really low too; 112$. Plus shipping of course but it's still much cheaper than 2 1gb sticks at CC.

[juched]

I dunno. Its strange it says B.C. Canada but the product is shipped from Canada. The seller's ratings is good so that's a good sign, but the poor english begs to differ. I guess you'll have to hope for a good one. The price is really low too; 112$. Plus shipping of course but it's still much cheaper than 2 1gb sticks at CC.

Product was shipped from HK (China). I sent them an email to ask if it is fake, and also to get a refund. I will see what they say.

Oh well.

[Narci]

Who did you buy from?

I bought one from http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7575035638&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1

But I am nervous about my purchase... that is for sure.

I think you got a fake one.

Read the ebay..it says:

"Brand New and Factory Sealed (With A SanDisk Adaptor)"

Why would a sony memory stick come with a sandisk adapter?

Also as some people have noted, the picture of the packaging shows that the dot method of sealing the package was used.

[juched]

I emailed and asked about warranty and if it is a fake. Here is my reply.

"hi,it is made in japan.1 year warranty.thx"

[juched]

"Brand New and Factory Sealed (With A SanDisk Adaptor)"

Why would a sony memory stick come with a sandisk adapter?


I think sony always ships with a sandisk adapter. That sounds fine to me. But I did notice the 6 point seal. Doh.

[Narci]

I think sony always ships with a sandisk adapter. That sounds fine to me. But I did notice the 6 point seal. Doh.

really?

Why wouldn't they ship it with these?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000CD7K9/103-9180803-9231004?v=glance&n=172282

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000CD7K9.01-AHF4SYKP09WBH._PE10_SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg

http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=nb_ss_e/103-9180803-9231004?url=search-alias%3Delectronics-aps&field-keywords=sony+pro+duo

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0006IEV7E.01._SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg

[juched]

really?

Why wouldn't they ship it with these?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000CD7K9/103-9180803-9231004?v=glance&n=172282

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000CD7K9.01-AHF4SYKP09WBH._PE10_SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg

http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=nb_ss_e/103-9180803-9231004?url=search-alias%3Delectronics-aps&field-keywords=sony+pro+duo

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0006IEV7E.01._SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg

Good point. Very good point.

[The_Duke_Of_Eli]

I emailed and asked about warranty and if it is a fake. Here is my reply.

"hi,it is made in japan.1 year warranty.thx"

Does that sound very safe to you? :|

[x86asm]

Good point. Very good point.

uh oh, thats not good my friend. I got a 512MB Sandisk MS Pro Duo from EB and it came with a Sandisk adaptor. So, it wouldnt make sense to have a Sony memory stick and Sandisk adaptor

[juched]

Does that sound very safe to you? :|

Not really. But what can I do now? I sent an email to cancel, but he replied that the item is already shipped, and repeated that it is made in japan and has a 1 year warranty.

[x86asm]

Not really. But what can I do now? I sent an email to cancel, but he replied that the item is already shipped, and repeated that it is made in japan and has a 1 year warranty.
Wait till it comes and post photos, what was the agreed upon price?

EDIT: ahh, $96.01 US, just post the photos, we won't know for certain till people see it.

[juched]

x86asm - love the avatar.

I messaged 10 other people who purchased a 2GB memory stick for the same guy in the past month and a half. I asked them if they have had any issues with their memory stick either not reporting 2GB, or if it has failed/died on them.

I will report any news I get back.

Once I get it I will post photos.

[x86asm]

x86asm - love the avatar.

I messaged 10 other people who purchased a 2GB memory stick for the same guy in the past month and a half. I asked them if they have had any issues with their memory stick either not reporting 2GB, or if it has failed/died on them.

I will report any news I get back.

Once I get it I will post photos.

Thanks, I love my avatar too :cheesygri

and thanks for posting the information. It will help other buyers :)

[akito925]

If you can buy goods from USA, Dell has Sandisk 2GB Ultra II pro duo for sell, the price is $219.99, and 20% off until Wednesday.

Here is the link (http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?sku=A0521396&c=us&l=en&cs=19&category_id=2999&page=external)

does dell.ca sell that item?? I'd can't seem to find it

[juched]

First 2 comments (remember my question is asking if they are having problems):

"As a matter of fact, no. As far as I know, the memory stick has worked fine. It has the proper space on the card, and, as it was a gift, I have not heard anything negative regarding its performance. It came from China, but arrived within 7 days of purchase. Pretty good, I'd say. "

"yes it seems a little odd at times and misreports size i format i regularily. Why?"

[juched]

2 more:

"No I have not encountered any problems with this item."

"The item was exactly what he advertises, there have been no problems with either the delivery or the item itself."

So far 3 good, 1 so so...

[juched]

2 more:

"nope, everything was cool. i got two of them from yaton6262 and i currently use them in a pair of psp's with no problems thus far."

"I did, and i don't have any problems with it as of yet , that is. it came in a blister pack with the SONY hologram on it, for what thats worth. as far as size, remember u never get 2 GB out of a 2 GB stick. don't recall what it was exactly, but a 1.5 GB file fit on it if that tells u anything. "

so, we are up to 5 good and 1 so-so. Looking very good to me.

[peoples_Flip]

2 more:

"nope, everything was cool. i got two of them from yaton6262 and i currently use them in a pair of psp's with no problems thus far."

"I did, and i don't have any problems with it as of yet , that is. it came in a blister pack with the SONY hologram on it, for what thats worth. as far as size, remember u never get 2 GB out of a 2 GB stick. don't recall what it was exactly, but a 1.5 GB file fit on it if that tells u anything. "

so, we are up to 5 good and 1 so-so. Looking very good to me.
Keep in mind this MSPD tend to fail (if in fact they do fail) within a 1-2 week period. The above eBay'ers you contact probably haven't owned it long enough to find out... lets give it sometime.

[juched]

Keep in mind this MSPD tend to fail (if in fact they do fail) within a 1-2 week period. The above eBay'ers you contact probably haven't owned it long enough to find out... lets give it sometime.

I made it a point to contact members who have had it for a few weeks, just because of this point. Some where from last week, but most were 2 - 3 weeks ago.

One more feedback received.

"Hi, everything works fine... i'm from canada and the package was send from hong kong (the shipping take 1 week exactly)... the memory stick was new and works like new... and the space is something like 1.8GB if i remember...

Thanks."

6 good, 1 so-so.

[juched]

I just was notified that my card was delivered. I will post pictures once I get home.

Another reply came in:

"It is working out great. The shipping was fast. The memory is as stated, 2 GB. I bought two of these sticks from the seller. One is a camera the other a PSP both work great. Packaging was in Chinese, but that did not bother me it is just memory.
Thanks and god luck."

so, that is 7 good and 1 so-so.

[blues45]

most sellers still have tons of positive feedback, but theres still undisputable evidence that there r fakes out there, and even if their sticks work fine, how would the warranty work if something goes wrong?

im not wiling to take a chance, was close to going to ebay for a stick before this

[blues45]

not even willing to buy nike shox from ebay having heard rumours that all those shoes coming from china r also counterfeit - anyone hear news on these?

[juched]

most sellers still have tons of positive feedback, but theres still undisputable evidence that there r fakes out there, and even if their sticks work fine, how would the warranty work if something goes wrong?

im not wiling to take a chance, was close to going to ebay for a stick before this

Good point. I am only looking at how people's experience with fake memory sticks are.

[bmw_xperience]

if the mem stick is fake and it works than it is great dat is what I think. And seriously if your's broke then it was your fault to take the risk anyways. If u want a real 2 gig memstick and don't want to take the risk then pay the 600 at sony.

Hey just gotta accept that we are living in an imperfect world.

[Narci]

if the mem stick is fake and it works than it is great dat is what I think. And seriously if your's broke then it was your fault to take the risk anyways. If u want a real 2 gig memstick and don't want to take the risk then pay the 600 at sony.

Hey just gotta accept that we are living in an imperfect world.

Selling someone something that you tell them is fake is fine.

Selling something that you say is real but is a fake is a scam.

[juched]

Selling someone something that you tell them is fake is fine.

Selling something that you say is real but is a fake is a scam.

I completely agree. Honestly I didn't think this was an incrediable deal, just a fairly good deal. I was told that the 2GB cards were 220$ CDN. I didn't check out the sony store online.

So, I thought this was a real product, but from an Asian market.

[juched]

Here are some pics of my card from ebay. The product seems very good build quality. Text is etched in the back, and nothing rubs off. Also, it appears to be a sticker kind of label (like the images on sonystyle.com show).

http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/9260/memcard0010hy.th.jpg (http://img479.imageshack.us/my.php?image=memcard0010hy.jpg)http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/6049/memcard0051cm.th.jpg (http://img479.imageshack.us/my.php?image=memcard0051cm.jpg)http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/2104/memcard0077ak.th.jpg (http://img479.imageshack.us/my.php?image=memcard0077ak.jpg)
http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/9838/memcard0084yz.th.jpg (http://img479.imageshack.us/my.php?image=memcard0084yz.jpg)http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/4711/memcard0105en.th.jpg (http://img479.imageshack.us/my.php?image=memcard0105en.jpg)http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/5381/memcard0119rs.th.jpg (http://img479.imageshack.us/my.php?image=memcard0119rs.jpg)
http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/5781/memcard0136qd.th.jpg (http://img479.imageshack.us/my.php?image=memcard0136qd.jpg)

The build quality seems a little better then my lexar, and on par with the 32MB card that came with my PSP.

Oh, and even though the auction said it would come with a sandisk adapter, it came with a sony one. However, the adapter was only in the box, not in the packaging.

[juched]

Here are some images that I recently got a hold of....

Hopefully these images will help out: (this was purchased from eBay)


Have you had any issues with yours yet?

I have been filling up mine, and trying to use it a lot to see if it stumbles. Nothing yet.

Not 100% sure if these are fakes, or just and older production line. From this blog post, it appears sony decided to stop production of this line, and added in the U model (extra U on end).

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://digimono.blog17.fc2.com/blog-category-7.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3DMSX-M2GN%2Bvs%2BMSX-M2GNU%26hl%3Den%26hs%3DEbz%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfire fox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://www.sony.co.jp/Products/mssupport/media/msx_duon.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.sony.co.jp/Products/mssupport/media/msx_duon.html%26hl%3Den%26hs%3DSBK%26lr%3D%26clien t%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DG

Perhaps that explains the price difference. I believe the going price of a new sony 2GB should be around 250$ CDN.

Here is a direct sony link:
http://216.239.37.104/translate_c?hl=en&u=http://www.sony.co.jp/Products/mssupport/qa/faq/pop1-36.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.sony.co.jp/Products/mssupport/media/msx_duon.html%26hl%3Den%26hs%3DSBK%26lr%3D%26clien t%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DG

[peoples_Flip]

Have you had any issues with yours yet?

I have been filling up mine, and trying to use it a lot to see if it stumbles. Nothing yet.

Not 100% sure if these are fakes, or just and older production line. From this blog post, it appears sony decided to stop production of this line, and added in the U model (extra U on end).

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://digimono.blog17.fc2.com/blog-category-7.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3DMSX-M2GN%2Bvs%2BMSX-M2GNU%26hl%3Den%26hs%3DEbz%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfire fox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://www.sony.co.jp/Products/mssupport/media/msx_duon.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.sony.co.jp/Products/mssupport/media/msx_duon.html%26hl%3Den%26hs%3DSBK%26lr%3D%26clien t%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DG

Perhaps that explains the price difference. I believe the going price of a new sony 2GB should be around 250$ CDN.

Here is a direct sony link:
http://216.239.37.104/translate_c?hl=en&u=http://www.sony.co.jp/Products/mssupport/qa/faq/pop1-36.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.sony.co.jp/Products/mssupport/media/msx_duon.html%26hl%3Den%26hs%3DSBK%26lr%3D%26clien t%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DG

Well I've filled it up to about 80MB Free and still no issues (fingers crossed) and hopefully will not run into any problems.

[juched]

reply number 9:

"I haven't had any issues as of yet. But I've done some research on these memory sticks prior to buying. The consensus is that they are in fact fake. I would have to say that it isn't authentic, but like I said, I have had no issues so far. I hope this helps. "

I personally do not believe this is neccessarily true. My theory is that sony cancelled the japan model MSX-M2GN and replaced it with the MSX-M2GNU (as I can see from the blog posting and the sony link I posted before). From the FAQ on the japan sony site, there is no difference between these 2 models, but had to do with a change in the manufacturer, probably because of poor quality. (perhaps this explains the new vs. old packaging we are seeing?).

So, that would explain the poor quality control that we are hearing about with these cards. Also, from my understanding, older models, or last years model of any electronic item does not sell well in japan. They discontinued selling the non-U model in late novemeber/early dec (I read nov 25 or dec 1). Soon afterwards the guy I bought from started selling these cards from china (dec 10th I believe). Could that mean they dumped the older cards for cheap trying to clear their inventory?

Just a theory... but my card is now registered with sony.ca for warranty, and they claim it has a 12 month warranty.

Also, it appears that the Japanese version doesn't ship with an adapter, which would explain why mine was just added into the box.

Lets see.

[peoples_Flip]

"... Just a theory... but my card is now registered with sony.ca for warranty, and they claim it has a 12 month warranty..."
How did you register your memory card with Sony.ca? Don't they need a serial number for that? I don't think yours came with a serial number (I could be wrong).

PM back and let me know how you did this... I would greatly appreciate it.

[Narci]

You can register a japanese region item on the .ca site?

[juched]

You can register a japanese region item on the .ca site?

I used the number under the model number as the serial. They seemed to accept it no problem. Worst case, theydon't accept it, but having a registration may only help my case if I have a problem with it later.

I can register I figure since they advertise the MSX 2G model on the sony.ca site.

Here is the email I got from sony ( used x's to remove any personal information, i figure i already showed the serial number in the picture i took!).





Dear xxx,

Thank you for taking the time to register your recent purchase with Sony. We hope you are now enjoying your newest Sony product.


Please take the time to verify that the product registration information you have provided is correct. If any of the information is incorrect, please contact us at 1-888-289-7669 to update your records.
Product: MSXM2GN
Serial #: E418Z1B
Purchase Date: 12/30/2005
Name: xxx xxx
Home Telephone: (xxx) xxx-xxxx
Business Telephone:
E-mail Address: xxxxx@xxxxx.xxx

Thanks again for registering your products with Sony!

Best Regards,
Sony of Canada Ltd.
www.sony.ca
1-888-289-7669
Monday to Friday, 9am - 8pm
Saturday 10am - 4pm
(Eastern Standard Time)

[peoples_Flip]

Here are some images that I recently got a hold of....

Hopefully these images will help out: (this was purchased from eBay)

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/664/img00135ag.th.jpg (http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img00135ag.jpg) http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/6581/img00142rj.th.jpg (http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img00142rj.jpg) http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/1079/img00151uz.th.jpg (http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img00151uz.jpg)

http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/8329/img00199sx.th.jpg (http://img347.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img00199sx.jpg) http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/9084/img00201kq.th.jpg (http://img347.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img00201kq.jpg) http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/234/img00236rj.th.jpg (http://img347.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img00236rj.jpg)

[Comatose]

GEEZ.. the fakes dont stop there.. when will people stop??

Fake Sandisk Ultra II 2GB SD from ebay:

http://members.shaw.ca/fakesandisk/

[aznpride]

Hi, can someone please tell me if these ones look authentic?

Thanks! :)
http://img368.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sonymemorystickduo7ty.jpg

[jtcb]

Hi, can someone please tell me if these ones look authentic?

Thanks! :)
http://img368.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sonymemorystickduo7ty.jpg

All I know is that real ones don't have any chinese/japanese character..

[aznpride]

All I know is that real ones don't have any chinese/japanese character..


Thanks! :)

[peoples_Flip]

Here are some images that I recently got a hold of....

Hopefully these images will help out: (this was purchased from eBay)

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/664/img00135ag.th.jpg (http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img00135ag.jpg) http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/6581/img00142rj.th.jpg (http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img00142rj.jpg) http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/1079/img00151uz.th.jpg (http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img00151uz.jpg)

http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/8329/img00199sx.th.jpg (http://img347.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img00199sx.jpg) http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/9084/img00201kq.th.jpg (http://img347.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img00201kq.jpg) http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/234/img00236rj.th.jpg (http://img347.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img00236rj.jpg)

Mine's still going strong! (Keeping fingers crossed)

[CFRTim]

I am starting to read more and more negative feedbacks on ebay in regards to the SONY memory sticks. It seems that more and more feedbacks say FAKE. Now lets not forget that most people won't know the difference to begin with, also even the fake cards take some time before they fail on you; so I am expecting to see more and more buyers complaining.

[juched]

All I know is that real ones don't have any chinese/japanese character..

Just because it has chinese or japanese characters doesn't make it fake. You don't think that they sell memory sticks in english only packaging do you?

It is very hard to tell fakes from the real thing. My bet is that sony might even have problems doing that.

[bmw_xperience]

ez solution... want the real thing? ;)

get at the sony store! haha

[jtcb]

Is this a legit Sandisk retail box in Asia Pacific?

http://img459.imageshack.us/img459/1075/alanng5c22img600x4501136123209.th.jpg (http://img459.imageshack.us/my.php?image=alanng5c22img600x4501136123209.jpg)

[sweetsmoke]

great thread with lots of info.

i just purchased a 2 gig from this guy on fleabay (http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZblown-zQQhtZ-1).

the packaging is the same as others, chinese(japaneese?) writing, psp logo top right corner, 6 dots closing the case, no adapter.

funny thing... i purchased that card BEFORE i was linked to this thread(and this site. i registered so i could post my experiences). i immediately contacted this guy to ask him if his card was fake. in his terms he states 3-5 up to 10 days total shipping time for domestic auctions... i got mine i 2 days!! once i emailed him i got a email stating it was shipped!! lol.. no mention of my email asking him on the integrity of the card... just a "its been shipped!" email (i received 2 emails stating it was shipped!!).

so its probably indeed "fake".. ill see how it lasts and report back in a couple of weeks. i have an authentic one gig and a apacer 40 gig HD so i just load up my movies on the one gig (2 at a time) and im golden...

ill keep it and eat the 110 bones it cost me for the 2 gig... not worth the energy or time to fight it.

[blues45]

funny thing this was originally suppose to be a hot deals forum
but i searched the net, cant seem to find too many threads concerning fake memory sticks

glad this developed



funny thing... i purchased that card BEFORE i was linked to this thread(and this site. i registered so i could post my experiences).

[aznpride]

can someone post some deals for these 2gb memory sticks? I can seem to find any, thanks! :)

[akito925]

can someone post some deals for these 2gb memory sticks? I can seem to find any, thanks! :)

Im also interested in looking for the best deal for a 2gb card too

[aznpride]

anyone?

[jrcactus]

I just bought a lot of 5 of these of Ebay and just like everyone else you have me a little scepticle on real or fake.
The seller that I have purchased these from are from Canada and ship all items from China via EMS.
But I have my own suspition that not all these are fake, this guy has been a Ebay member since 2001 which leads me to believe if he was selling fakes their is no way he could get away with this for that period of time.
His Ebay pictures state all that you guys have pointed out about finding a fake but with his feedback and having his B.C address on his link that I think he would have a little bit more to loose then being banned from Ebay.

Guess I will find out on Monday when I get them if this rumour holds up or not.

It's funny how when 1 person gets ripped off or jacked of a product that 10,000 people spread a bad rumour about things but how many times have people shared good experiences?

Just me .02 cents

BTW here is a link of the Ebay purchase.
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7578720805&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1

Jr

[Jeff146]

Most likely the one you bought is a fake because why would you buy a memorystick that comes with a sandisk adaptor

[jrcactus]

You can buy them from Expansys HK for 1279 HKD also know in Canada as Expansys.ca a very know electronics type company.
Here is a conversion from HKD to CAD

1,279.00 HKD
Hong Kong Dollars = 192.258 CAD
Canada Dollars
1 HKD = 0.150319 CAD 1 CAD = 6.65251 HKD

Who is to say they dont buy them in huge amounts and sell them for less.

Maybe scandisk is included because Sony never included :confused:

Retail has always been more then Ebay we have seen that in the past.

EX: Xbox 360 :P

[zmtomako]

You can buy them from Expansys HK for 1279 HKD also know in Canada as Expansys.ca a very know electronics type company.
Here is a conversion from HKD to CAD

1,279.00 HKD
Hong Kong Dollars = 192.258 CAD
Canada Dollars
1 HKD = 0.150319 CAD 1 CAD = 6.65251 HKD

Who is to say they dont buy them in huge amounts and sell them for less.

Maybe scandisk is included because Sony never included :confused:

Retail has always been more then Ebay we have seen that in the past.

EX: Xbox 360 :P


can you point out where exactly you're seeing this price? cuz i checked their HK site and i dont see it...

but yea, regarding the prices on ebay, they ARE too low to believe... i mean winning bids are like $100USD... and the retail is like at least $400CAD... use some common sense... and why does it always ship from China?

[zmtomako]

buddy, thats not the Sony HIGHSPEED sticks we're talking about here...
the ebay "fakes" are HIGHSPEED... not just normal "Magicgate"

[jtcb]

Im also interested in looking for the best deal for a 2gb card too

Would a REAL Sony (black) $150 CAD or Sandisk (blue) $175 CAD both shipped consider good deal? Which one would you get? Sandisk has better performance than Sony.

[jrcactus]

http://www.expansys.com.hk/product.asp?code=126682

Sorry I guess this is not the highspeed model!!!!

The same reason all cell phones are usually shipped from China to save on import tax, duties and tarrifs.

[zmtomako]

like i said before man, thats not HIGHSPEED.... check ebay, the "deals" are on HIGHSPEED sony pro duo....

[juched]

I just bought a lot of 5 of these of Ebay and just like everyone else you have me a little scepticle on real or fake.
The seller that I have purchased these from are from Canada and ship all items from China via EMS.
But I have my own suspition that not all these are fake, this guy has been a Ebay member since 2001 which leads me to believe if he was selling fakes their is no way he could get away with this for that period of time.
His Ebay pictures state all that you guys have pointed out about finding a fake but with his feedback and having his B.C address on his link that I think he would have a little bit more to loose then being banned from Ebay.

Guess I will find out on Monday when I get them if this rumour holds up or not.

It's funny how when 1 person gets ripped off or jacked of a product that 10,000 people spread a bad rumour about things but how many times have people shared good experiences?

Just me .02 cents

BTW here is a link of the Ebay purchase.
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7578720805&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1

Jr

That is the same guy I bought from. No problems yet. Unless it dies, I guess I will never really know if it is a fake or not. BTW, real Sony cards only have a 12 month warranty as well.

[juched]

Most likely the one you bought is a fake because why would you buy a memorystick that comes with a sandisk adaptor

It shows a sandisk, but what came to me was a Sony one.

The Japan memory sticks do not come with an adapter (as they mention on the sony jp site), but they throw them into the box when you buy one.

[Narci]

I was at Fairview Mall on the weekend and a kiosk had the sony 2gig duo's for sale. It was the package with the 6 dots, the same ones you see on ebay. I took a look and the packaging and it's so cheap looking. Even the cardboard it looks cheap and wasn't even straight, it was like curvy inside the package.

[peoples_Flip]

I was at Fairview Mall on the weekend and a kiosk had the sony 2gig duo's for sale. It was the package with the 6 dots, the same ones you see on ebay. I took a look and the packaging and it's so cheap looking. Even the cardboard it looks cheap and wasn't even straight, it was like curvy inside the package.
Was it the HIGH SPEED Duos you saw?

[akito925]

I was at Fairview Mall on the weekend and a kiosk had the sony 2gig duo's for sale. It was the package with the 6 dots, the same ones you see on ebay. I took a look and the packaging and it's so cheap looking. Even the cardboard it looks cheap and wasn't even straight, it was like curvy inside the package.

to really know if its a fake. ask how long the store warrenty is..

[shockr]

I had to register on this site just to post about this comment...

I too almost bought a FAKE MSPD but from the ebay.com.cn site.

As a eBay seller myself (I sell my own branded products out of my LA warehouse but my base is in Shanghai China), I'm very sceptical of SH*T sold on eBay. I usually know what to look for. I therefore searched multiple sites to try to figure out why the MSPD 2Gig was so cheap! $100-$130 USD on average. I even found a eBay seller from the China eBay site that was actually selling BIN (Buy It Now for the noobs) for $80 USD!!!! That is insane.

I have a friend that also has a business selling online, but only on Japan Yahoo Auctions. I therefore decided to check the prices on Japan Auctions. (http://auctions.yahoo.co.jp) After looking at this site, I was even more confused... Haha. Prices range from $140-250 USD. 120 Yen appx = $1 USD.

Here are some samples:
http://page9.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/k26513468
http://page6.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/f41786507
http://page3.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/c113856085

Anyway, back to the original reason why I'm posting. DON'T ASSUME buying from China will save you money. IF the item is real and legit, the sticker and wholesale price already has a VAT of 17% (last time I checked it was around this rate) tacked on by the Chinese Communist government. In other words, it's NOT cheaper to buy electronics in China. China IS NOT HK. No need to get into a political discussion, but I assume you guys know what I'm talking about.

I just bought a SonyEricsson K750i. (Exchange rate 1.03 RMB = 1 HKD) Here are 4 prices:
Retail Channel HK: $3300 HKD
Parallel Import HK: $2600 HKD
Retail Channel China: 3800 RMB (~$3690 HKD)
Parallel Import China: $2300 RMB (~$2230 HKD)

Do you guys see the difference? Parallel Imports in China are highly discouraged and might even be semi illegal in China because retailers skip the taxes. China is not a duty free country unlike HK. Parallel Imports in China are USUALLY smuggled into the country through illegal means.

Another thing to worry about is if the items sold through parallel import channels in China are FAKE or not. My friend in the mobile business tells me NOT to buy parallel import phones in China. What happens is there are a lot of used phones bought outside China. These used phones are then repackaged with a new case/shell and sold as a new parallel import. For the Chinese to get the phone so cheap, they tend to swap out real batteries and replace them with fake ones. They then sell the real ones at a higher cost! Sometimes the included accessories won't even be included so they can sell them on the side! The box serial number sometimes doesn't match the electronics serial number. These guys are tricky eh???

When I first moved to China 3 years ago, I got tricked with the serial number issue when I bought my Canon G30 camera. But... it was through the retail channels. I think I got tricked into buying a parallel import without me even knowing! Haha.

I ended up getting a parallel import from a store my friend knows. All the accessories that came in the retail box is also in mine. I won't even use the Chinese postal system as I know high value things get "lost" in the postal system very easily here. I had a friend hand carry the phone up to me when he was on business in Shanghai.

I'm still out of luck for memory cards. I will probably buy one through legit channels when the prices come down a bit more in HK.

http://www.expansys.com.hk/product.asp?code=126682

Sorry I guess this is not the highspeed model!!!!

The same reason all cell phones are usually shipped from China to save on import tax, duties and tarrifs.

[The_Duke_Of_Eli]

i jus got this, looks exactly like it
except for that little little copyright thing

http://akamai.edeal.com/images/catalog1722/folder4487/img679098.jpg


can u tell if this is a fake?

I have not seen a Sandisk fake as of yet. They're all Sony branded because of the 32 mb sonys they replace it with.

[rfdrfd]

Just wanted to add any info to this thread.

I'm in Hong Kong right now and all the major electronic stores I've asked "Fortress" and some "Chinese name", and including the Golden Centre (which may sell fake stuff),

All the Sony brand Memory Stick duos they sell DO NOT include the adaptor (to extend it to a normal size memory stick).

So either all those big electronic stores are selling fake stuff (which I dont think) or some MS Duos really do not come with adaptors.

[lonelydriver]

I had to register on this site just to post about this comment...

I too almost bought a FAKE MSPD but from the ebay.com.cn site.

As a eBay seller myself (I sell my own branded products out of my LA warehouse but my base is in Shanghai China), I'm very sceptical of SH*T sold on eBay. I usually know what to look for. I therefore searched multiple sites to try to figure out why the MSPD 2Gig was so cheap! $100-$130 USD on average. I even found a eBay seller from the China eBay site that was actually selling BIN (Buy It Now for the noobs) for $80 USD!!!! That is insane.

I have a friend that also has a business selling online, but only on Japan Yahoo Auctions. I therefore decided to check the prices on Japan Auctions. (http://auctions.yahoo.co.jp) After looking at this site, I was even more confused... Haha. Prices range from $140-250 USD. 120 Yen appx = $1 USD.

Here are some samples:
http://page9.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/k26513468
http://page6.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/f41786507
http://page3.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/c113856085

Anyway, back to the original reason why I'm posting. DON'T ASSUME buying from China will save you money. IF the item is real and legit, the sticker and wholesale price already has a VAT of 17% (last time I checked it was around this rate) tacked on by the Chinese Communist government. In other words, it's NOT cheaper to buy electronics in China. China IS NOT HK. No need to get into a political discussion, but I assume you guys know what I'm talking about.

I just bought a SonyEricsson K750i. (Exchange rate 1.03 RMB = 1 HKD) Here are 4 prices:
Retail Channel HK: $3300 HKD
Parallel Import HK: $2600 HKD
Retail Channel China: 3800 RMB (~$3690 HKD)
Parallel Import China: $2300 RMB (~$2230 HKD)

Do you guys see the difference? Parallel Imports in China are highly discouraged and might even be semi illegal in China because retailers skip the taxes. China is not a duty free country unlike HK. Parallel Imports in China are USUALLY smuggled into the country through illegal means.

Another thing to worry about is if the items sold through parallel import channels in China are FAKE or not. My friend in the mobile business tells me NOT to buy parallel import phones in China. What happens is there are a lot of used phones bought outside China. These used phones are then repackaged with a new case/shell and sold as a new parallel import. For the Chinese to get the phone so cheap, they tend to swap out real batteries and replace them with fake ones. They then sell the real ones at a higher cost! Sometimes the included accessories won't even be included so they can sell them on the side! The box serial number sometimes doesn't match the electronics serial number. These guys are tricky eh???

When I first moved to China 3 years ago, I got tricked with the serial number issue when I bought my Canon G30 camera. But... it was through the retail channels. I think I got tricked into buying a parallel import without me even knowing! Haha.

I ended up getting a parallel import from a store my friend knows. All the accessories that came in the retail box is also in mine. I won't even use the Chinese postal system as I know high value things get "lost" in the postal system very easily here. I had a friend hand carry the phone up to me when he was on business in Shanghai.

I'm still out of luck for memory cards. I will probably buy one through legit channels when the prices come down a bit more in HK.


what's parallel import?

[juched]

Just wanted to add any info to this thread.

I'm in Hong Kong right now and all the major electronic stores I've asked "Fortress" and some "Chinese name", and including the Golden Centre (which may sell fake stuff),

All the Sony brand Memory Stick duos they sell DO NOT include the adaptor (to extend it to a normal size memory stick).

So either all those big electronic stores are selling fake stuff (which I dont think) or some MS Duos really do not come with adaptors.

The Japaneese Sony site indicates that it does not ship with an adaptor.

So, this makes sense to me.

[Narci]

http://www.sonystyle.ca/commerce/servlet/ProductDetailDisplay?storeId=10001&langId=-1&catalogId=10001&productId=1001474&navigationPath=n46740n47386

2 GB storage capacity with 1.85 GB available
Designed to support read and write speeds of 80 Mbps on high speed enabled devices2
Operating temperature range of -13° F to 185° F allows greater durability
Backwards compatible with devices that use Memory Stick PRO Duo™ media3
Included MSACM2 adaptor allows compatibility with Memory Stick PRO™ media enabled devices3
Designed especially for professional-quality compact digital cameras and portable digital music devices



That's North America. I don't see why they would include the adapter in North America and not in Japan.

[rfdrfd]

I see. Its good to know. I avoided buying any yet in HK.


The Japaneese Sony site indicates that it does not ship with an adaptor.

So, this makes sense to me.

[Narci]

July of 2002 but...

Miniature flash memory cards will go on sale next week in Japan, but will they ever be available in the U.S.? (http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,102623,00.asp)

"The Memory Stick Duo, which is about half the weight of a standard Memory Stick, will come with an adapter allowing it to be used in slots intended for its larger cousin.

Another...

Sony Memory Stick Duo to go on sale (http://www.dpreview.com/news/0207/02071201memorystickduo16.asp)

[kadar]

Ok I probably got burned and I'm just waiting for it to crap out. When I go home today I'm going to check the back for contacts and the ink vs/ bump printing on the back of the card itself. Don't know how much it was bc my dad bought it for Christmas from HK. It showed up and the only thing that made me worried was the 6 seals around the package instead of a full seal. I've had it for about a week now pulling massive amounts of data through it and so far so good (knock on wood).

Does anyone know how fast data should transfer to the real "high speed" device? I am pulling 1.8GB to the PSP in around 7-10 min (usually walk away so I don't know for sure)...

I'll have to contact the seller, or have my dad do it, and then have Ebay investigate...

Suprised I didn't find this forum earlier, seems like Google wasn't picking it up in searches for fake memory stick pro duo until a few days ago (kept searching same exact string)...

[Narci]

Ok I probably got burned and I'm just waiting for it to crap out. When I go home today I'm going to check the back for contacts and the ink vs/ bump printing on the back of the card itself. Don't know how much it was bc my dad bought it for Christmas from HK. It showed up and the only thing that made me worried was the 6 seals around the package instead of a full seal. I've had it for about a week now pulling massive amounts of data through it and so far so good (knock on wood).

Does anyone know how fast data should transfer to the real "high speed" device? I am pulling 1.8GB to the PSP in around 7-10 min (usually walk away so I don't know for sure)...

I'll have to contact the seller, or have my dad do it, and then have Ebay investigate...

Suprised I didn't find this forum earlier, seems like Google wasn't picking it up in searches for fake memory stick pro duo until a few days ago (kept searching same exact string)...

PSP does not support highspeed duo sticks. You can use highspeed sticks but you won't be using the highspeed function.

It would be faster for you to put the duo in the adapter and tranfer it through your computer..then you can take advatage of the highspeed function.

Transferring data to the duo VIA PSP, it's slower and will not use the highspeed function.

Hope that makes sense to you.

[kadar]

PSP does not support highspeed duo sticks. You can use highspeed sticks but you won't be using the highspeed function.

It would be faster for you to put the duo in the adapter and tranfer it through your computer..then you can take advatage of the highspeed function.

Transferring data to the duo VIA PSP, it's slower and will not use the highspeed function.

Hope that makes sense to you.

Yeah it makes perfect sense to me. I'm wondering if I got a "good" fake. I've been abusing it moving data across and it hasn't crapped out. I'll be sure to respond when/if it does though... If it doesn't fail then I don't really care if it's fake.

Come to think of it I am pretty sure it is fake and here's why: The back of the card has a sticker on it (not covering anything up though), and it has the name of the guy who physically mailed it to me. It's something like Chun Wai or something... I'll just keep abusing the card and mark the time when it fails...

[Narci]

http://www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=007032&cid=990.190

Get professional quality digital storage for your compact digital device with the MSX-M1GN High Speed Memory Stick PRO Duo™ media from Sony. With an total storage capacity of 1 gigabyte and an available capacity of 940 MB, it is ideal for capturing high resolution digital photos and high quality video. Its high speed feature allows it to read and write data at speeds up to 80 megabits per second on enabled devices. The MSX-M1GN is backwards compatible with most devices that use standard Memory Stick PRO Duo™ media.

With the included adaptor it can even be used with most products that support Memory Stick PRO™ media. It even supports and expanded operating temperature range of -13° F to 185° Fahrenheit, making it the perfect media choice regardless of weather conditions.

Memory Stick PRO Duo™ media is the ideal companion to your PSP™ portable entertainment system. Save your data and images for easy transport or sharing. With Image Converter software convert all your videos from your computer and save it to your Memory Stick DUO media for easy enjoyment on your personal entertainment unit.

[kadar]

Update:

http://cgi.ebay.com/DUO-2GB-SONY-Memory-Stick-Duo-2-GB-Memorystick-Card_W0QQitemZ7580248059QQcategoryZ103410QQcmdZVie wItem

This is from their "Term and Condition:"

"- A "Chon Wai" sticker is implanted on the back of the memory card or other items. Please do not remove it or exchange warranty will be voided."

The physical sellers name on the package was this as well... 2.5 minutes of poking around will get you on the right track for bad feedback of this seller who claims he's in Cali... I will try to post pictures, but the other thing that concerns me is the "serial number"? that's on the back? I was looking at someone else's mem stick pictures and noticed that our 32m mem sticks were diff in that the number under the model number was different. However, we had the same on our 2 gigs...

S/N: E418Z1B

Don't know if I'm wrong maybe it is legit but I wanted to put out a warning...

[Narci]

PSP Forums (http://www.pspforums.com/forums/dodgy-pro-duo-1gb-memory-stick-vt15337.html)

"i brought a 1gb sony pro duo memory stick and for sum reason it will only allow me to use 249MB ive formatted it in numerous psp's and on the pc but still nuffin changes. ive even copyd my friends 1GB memory card brains onto it to try and trick it into workin properly but that failed so if any1 can help please get back to me it will be much appreiceated"

[juched]

According to the offical sony japan site:
http://216.239.37.104/translate_c?hl=en&u=http://www.sony.co.jp/Products/mssupport/description/spec_msx_duon.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.sony.co.jp/Products/mssupport/media/msx_duon.html%26hl%3Den%26hs%3DSBK%26lr%3D%26clien t%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DG

Translated from Google:
"
; This product has not belonged the private adapter.
" Memory stick duo adapter " ' MSAC-M2 ' of selling separately please buy."

Sold separately in JP. At least that is what I see on the site.

Here too:
http://216.239.39.104/translate_c?hl=en&u=http://www.sony.co.jp/Products/mssupport/media/msx_duon.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.sony.co.jp/Products/mssupport/media/msx_duon.html%26hl%3Den%26hs%3DSBK%26lr%3D%26clien t%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DG

and finally, here on the JP sonystyle site:
http://216.239.37.104/translate_c?hl=en&u=http://www.jp.sonystyle.com/Qnavi/Detail/MSX-M256NU_M512NU_M1GNU_M2GNU.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.sony.co.jp/Products/mssupport/media/msx_duon.html%26hl%3Den%26hs%3DSBK%26lr%3D%26clien t%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DG

it says:
"When you install in the memory stick duo adapter of selling separately, the memory stick slot on-board equipment of standard size (* 2) with compatibility actualization"

[juched]

PSP Forums (http://www.pspforums.com/forums/dodgy-pro-duo-1gb-memory-stick-vt15337.html)

"i brought a 1gb sony pro duo memory stick and for sum reason it will only allow me to use 249MB ive formatted it in numerous psp's and on the pc but still nuffin changes. ive even copyd my friends 1GB memory card brains onto it to try and trick it into workin properly but that failed so if any1 can help please get back to me it will be much appreiceated"

See, now that is what I was thinking fakes would be like. Maybe the fakes are getting more complex that they actually function at 2gb. hmm...

[Narci]

See, now that is what I was thinking fakes would be like. Maybe the fakes are getting more complex that they actually function at 2gb. hmm...

if you read on that site..i think it was...someome compared thier card to one of thier friends who also got it on ebay and it had the exact same serial # on the back.

I bought a sandisk from a reputable retailer. Killed a USB key before on the first day I got it and i just went back and returned it for a new one.

Guess it's just too creepy to buy mem sticks/flash cards on ebay these days.

[bumboclott]

I read this thread after I bought a 2 GB sony memory stick off eBay. I just recieved it in the mail today and I think its one of the fake ones. The seller was from Canada, but it was shipped from China. The packaging also had the six dot seal as opposed to being fully sealed. I managed to slip my hands through the package and grab the memory stick, so the "retail" package still seems sealed. I'll start to complain to the seller if the memory stick starts screwing up on me.

I checked the capacity and it does say it's 2 GB... This is Day 1 and so far I've loaded over 1GB worth of data on it. I did the 'AVC on 1.5' tutorial from modsyn with success, loaded 2 ISOs (Lumines and NBA 06), loaded around 400 MBs of video and loaded an mp3 album. So far so good... I'll keep you guys posted. Wish me luck.

[kadar]

I read this thread after I bought a 2 GB sony memory stick off eBay. I just recieved it in the mail today and I think its one of the fake ones. The seller was from Canada, but it was shipped from China. The packaging also had the six dot seal as opposed to being fully sealed. I managed to slip my hands through the package and grab the memory stick, so the "retail" package still seems sealed. I'll start to complain to the seller if the memory stick starts screwing up on me.

I checked the capacity and it does say it's 2 GB... This is Day 1 and so far I've loaded over 1GB worth of data on it. I did the 'AVC on 1.5' tutorial from modsyn with success, loaded 2 ISOs (Lumines and NBA 06), loaded around 400 MBs of video and loaded an mp3 album. So far so good... I'll keep you guys posted. Wish me luck.

I've almost maxed it out so I know it's good to 2gigs. I guess I wasn't patient enough to slip it through the six points, I opened mine on two of them (always have bad luck opening plastic of that type, I cut my hands up...)

And as for the other post, you've confirmed that someone else had the same serial? Do you know what the number was? That's why I've posted mine on the forum...

I've found that this Chon Wai company is traded through China and has 10 employees, at least according to some chinese trade site or something... Half of it was in English and the other half had native characters. So I'm thinking that some of these cards may be of the lesser quality (maybe they never got stamped in the process and then Sony told them to take a hike with their inferior quality). Anyway, that's my analysis of the situation, if anyone else has a similar ebay experience with this tech_google or Chon Wai logo on their mem stick please let me know.

Right now I'm just waiting on the card to see if it fails, I try to load and unload the card 1-3 times a day.

[juched]

So far my 2GB card from yaton6262 on ebay has not had any issues. I have added different videos and other homebrew and it hasn't failed yet.

Keeping my fingers crossed.

[jrcactus]

I also got my 2GB Pro Duo Highspeed in the mail today, mine arrived from H.K.
I have loaded this baby to the max and tried again and again to get it to fail or mess up, it has the etched in writing and all looks 100%
If thing happens to mess up in 6 months time I can still buy 3-4 of these for the price of one from the sony store, so in my words it was worth the big $80.50 USD I paid for it.
My two cents, if you want to pay $599.00 CAD for a 2 GB from the sony store and have the 3 year warranty go buy one, if you want to get one for $80.00 buy one from Ebay. As long as this thing works until the 4GB and the 8GB hit the shelves I can say I at least had a 2 GB before most people would even buy one because of these accusations.
I know they are some bad ones out there but remember you only tell your friends about your bad experiences you never tell them about your good ones...

Jr

[bumboclott]

hey jrcactus, did the packaging have the six dot seal around the package? or were they long lines? also, what was the ebay id of the seller? I just want to see if it's the same seller who sold me mine...

[blues45]

those six dot seals jus seem too fake, the sandisk version, which i bought off RFD was sealed all around, really hard to open, had to use my keys jus to rip the packaging

[Narci]

those six dot seals jus seem too fake, the sandisk version, which i bought off RFD was sealed all around, really hard to open, had to use my keys jus to rip the packaging

Yeah..that's the reason why I bought a sandisk one too. 1GB though.

CC has it on thier webpage...a 2gb for $200. Not much more then the sony 2gb when factoring in shipping, duty, echange and taxes.

BTW, 'Highspeed' is usless for a PSP when your transferring through the PSP itself.

[randomdef]

I know they are some bad ones out there but remember you only tell your friends about your bad experiences you never tell them about your good ones...

Jr

no, i recommend most things i find useful.

its fine to say "i'll use it until it fails" but thats not so fine to say when you have 2gb of pictures from a trip loaded and the card dies, thats not cool. failure for most people who use it for something other then pirating videogames is a big deal.

[Narci]

no, i recommend most things i find useful.

its fine to say "i'll use it until it fails" but thats not so fine to say when you have 2gb of pictures from a trip loaded and the card dies, thats not cool. failure for most people who use it for something other then pirating videogames is a big deal.

I agree..it's also the principle...

If they advertise that it's a real Sony 2gb card..I expect a real sony 2gb card.

It's ok to say it's a fake but to sell something that is fake as the real thing...it's wrong.

[vithuran]

there are so many fakes out there you mite as well jus buy it from a real store like walmart and futureshop wehre you can also get warranty instead of buying 1 and then it breaking

[juched]

I also got my 2GB Pro Duo Highspeed in the mail today, mine arrived from H.K.
I have loaded this baby to the max and tried again and again to get it to fail or mess up, it has the etched in writing and all looks 100%
If thing happens to mess up in 6 months time I can still buy 3-4 of these for the price of one from the sony store, so in my words it was worth the big $80.50 USD I paid for it.
My two cents, if you want to pay $599.00 CAD for a 2 GB from the sony store and have the 3 year warranty go buy one, if you want to get one for $80.00 buy one from Ebay. As long as this thing works until the 4GB and the 8GB hit the shelves I can say I at least had a 2 GB before most people would even buy one because of these accusations.
I know they are some bad ones out there but remember you only tell your friends about your bad experiences you never tell them about your good ones...

Jr

From the sonystyle.ca site i read that the memory sticks only have 12 months, not 3 years.

[bumboclott]

juched, maybe our sticks are real afterall. Or maybe they're just good quality fakes. haha... all I know is that i've been transfering crazy amounts of data on this memory stick and it still hasn't bricked on me. Hows yours doing?

[juched]

juched, maybe our sticks are real afterall. Or maybe they're just good quality fakes. haha... all I know is that i've been transfering crazy amounts of data on this memory stick and it still hasn't bricked on me. Hows yours doing?

I too have moved movies and other files on over and over and it has not had any issues at all.

[jrcactus]

no, i recommend most things i find useful.

its fine to say "i'll use it until it fails" but thats not so fine to say when you have 2gb of pictures from a trip loaded and the card dies, thats not cool. failure for most people who use it for something other then pirating videogames is a big deal.

Funny you say pirating video games, I actually use mine in my sony phone for pirated music not video games ;)
If your trip is 2GB of pictures you better do a back-up on a laptop each evening, not only can your Memory card fail but you may loose your camer or get it stolen or even drop it in the pool when your trying to take a pic of that hot chick across the pool. :idea:

[rfdrfd]

It is confirmed, some Sony MS Duos do NOT sell with adaptors.

In Hong Kong, I went up to the Sony Customer Service centre in Mong Kok, and its a REAL Sony centre, selling reall stuff. All their MS Duo's do not come with adaptors. Adaptors sold separately at $50 HK dollars.

[gillianchung]

using pirated sticks for pirated games and pirated music~~

wonder why china makes pirated popstation PSPs and fake w800is....
and ppl complain about their ethics...

...there is a market for them.

[Narci]

It is confirmed, some Sony MS Duos do NOT sell with adaptors.

In Hong Kong, I went up to the Sony Customer Service centre in Mong Kok, and its a REAL Sony centre, selling reall stuff. All their MS Duo's do not come with adaptors. Adaptors sold separately at $50 HK dollars.

You should specifiy that Asian Market Duo's do not come with an Adaptor then. US market does.

[juched]

It is confirmed, some Sony MS Duos do NOT sell with adaptors.

In Hong Kong, I went up to the Sony Customer Service centre in Mong Kok, and its a REAL Sony centre, selling reall stuff. All their MS Duo's do not come with adaptors. Adaptors sold separately at $50 HK dollars.

Did the packaging have 6 connection points? Or was it sealed all the way around?

[sweetsmoke]

great thread with lots of info.

i just purchased a 2 gig from this guy on fleabay (http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZblown-zQQhtZ-1).

the packaging is the same as others, chinese(japaneese?) writing, psp logo top right corner, 6 dots closing the case, no adapter.

funny thing... i purchased that card BEFORE i was linked to this thread(and this site. i registered so i could post my experiences). i immediately contacted this guy to ask him if his card was fake. in his terms he states 3-5 up to 10 days total shipping time for domestic auctions... i got mine i 2 days!! once i emailed him i got a email stating it was shipped!! lol.. no mention of my email asking him on the integrity of the card... just a "its been shipped!" email (i received 2 emails stating it was shipped!!).

so its probably indeed "fake".. ill see how it lasts and report back in a couple of weeks. i have an authentic one gig and a apacer 40 gig HD so i just load up my movies on the one gig (2 at a time) and im golden...

ill keep it and eat the 110 bones it cost me for the 2 gig... not worth the energy or time to fight it.

well this far this stick is holding up its end of the bargain.

i have a portable apacer steno 40 gb drive and i have loaded about 12 movies from the stick to the drive (i would use psp manager to convert my dvds then once the mem stick fills up i transfer them to the drive. then reformat the stick and do it again)

it always shows 1.9GB free when i format it and its been going strong thus far.

[siuder]

Is this an authentic 2GB SanDisk??

http://www.datacommtech.com/ebay_images/2gb/sandisk2gb.jpg

[randomdef]

Is this an authentic 2GB SanDisk??

http://www.datacommtech.com/ebay_images/2gb/sandisk2gb.jpg


well, they don't have fake sandisks, so yeah, its real, looks like the 2 i recived yesterday.

[siuder]

Just won this auction for 2GB SanDisk Memory Stick Pro Duo. Authentic? Good deal?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8250776710&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1 (http://)

[jtcb]

^ Not bad..

I got a better deal here (http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7574201467&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.ca%3A80%2F%2Fsearch%2F search.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26satitle%3D7574201467%26f vi%3D1). Won it when nobody is watching during the holiday..

[aznpride]

can someone recommend me some ebay sellers who sells authentic cards?
any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks

[akito925]

Is this an authentic 2GB SanDisk??

http://www.datacommtech.com/ebay_images/2gb/sandisk2gb.jpg

bought one too! from a local dealer.. cost me $200, but at least I know its real, cuz I can look at it with my own eyes before I buy.

[MARINE BETTA]

where can I get one of the real 2gb sandisk memory stick duo's in the GTA? other than canadacomputers?

[The_Duke_Of_Eli]

where can I get one of the real 2gb sandisk memory stick duo's in the GTA? other than canadacomputers?

Erm, many small retailers on College would have them. Expect to pay around that same price, plus tax of course.

[MARINE BETTA]

Erm, many small retailers on College would have them. Expect to pay around that same price, plus tax of course.

but are they authentic? hell I do not even trust canadacomputers as I heard they do have some products that are non authentic.

[Decile]

Hmm, looks like I have a fake 2GB in my PSP now. Meh, I suspected as much, but I've been using it heavily for a couple months now and it's still going strong... fast access, have lots of video/music on it presently. I like to think of it as a "generic" card :cheesygri

[sweetsmoke]

yeah same here.. i have not had mine as long.. only a few weeks. but its been consistent. as long as it performs invisibly in the background like my old REAL 1gb card, then im OK!.

[Narci]

If you knew it was fake before you bought it...would you have bought it?

[andyyuen]

well, they don't have fake sandisks, so yeah, its real, looks like the 2 i recived yesterday.

for your info
there are fake Sony, Sandisk, Lexar cards out there

think about it.. what is the difference between a fake sony and a fake sandisk
only what they print on it...

i saw fake sony and fake sandisk before
don't bet on it

[Amuse]

Is this an authentic 2GB SanDisk??

http://www.datacommtech.com/ebay_images/2gb/sandisk2gb.jpg

Something seems odd with this pic. I am no Sandisk pro duo expert myself since I don't own one but I plan to buy a sandisk 2GB pro duo soon.

The plastic packaging on the right seems to be shorter by like 0.5 cm and the hole at the top of the package seems to be rounder/wider than the plastic packaging on the left of the pic. Are they both real?

It could just be the angle that the pic was taken so I dunno.

[lewdvig]

1 GB cards are $17 on eBay today.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/1GB-SONY-MEMORY-STICK-PRO-DUO-PSP-NEW-HIGH-SPEED_W0QQitemZ7585227134QQcategoryZ103410QQrdZ1QQ cmdZViewItem

I might try a 2 GB - for under $100 why not. Other people have no problem with the cards.

[Flyin18T]

canada computers, tiger direct, NCIX, none of them have it.. i went to pacific mall website and called all the computer stores, none have it, none can even get it...

so... ya...i guess u just gotta stick with the 1gb for now and wait another few months

Just ordered my 1gig stick from NCIX. I'll keep my fingers crossed. However it seems there is some confidence in their products.

[Narci]

for your info
there are fake Sony, Sandisk, Lexar cards out there

think about it.. what is the difference between a fake sony and a fake sandisk
only what they print on it...

i saw fake sony and fake sandisk before
don't bet on it

if you saw a fake sandisk before, please enlighten us about the differences and how to spot them?

[kadar]

*crosses fingers*

well mine is still working, been a few weeks now; and for those of you who've not read the earlier parts of the threat i got mine around Jan 10th.

[bumboclott]

Same as mine. I got mine January 12th and transferred massive amounts of data. Still tickin!

[broken_stimulant]

http://www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=009189&cid=990.190

has anyone purchased a 2gb from canadacomputers and confirm if its legit?

[obernewtyn]

Althought i want legit memory card, i think i'm going to settle with a fake sony 2gb card since i been hearing it does the job. OH wait nevermind, I just went to confirm the prices on sony.ca and sony just drop there 2 gb cards from 600 to 250 on sony.ca. Ok, now i gotta start thinking over again which im going to get. :mad:

[shockr]

Wholesale cost of a real Sandisk 2GB Non Highspeed is around $130 USD. These are parellel imports in HK. My source tells me this is the real deal and not copies.

I was also told that you could get 2GB SD cards in Shenzhen (across the border of HK in China) for 20USD. Those were fake obviously, but I don't know if they work or not since I have no use for an SD card right now.

[finalcoolman]

Hi, have there been any reports of fake PSP branded 1Gig memory sticks? Cause I'm about to buy one just not sure if there is a chance of it being fake. Model number is PSP-MP1G. Thanks,

Here's picture of it I found on websites in case people don't know what I'm talking about:

http://www.jp.playstation.com/Item/4/6176913.htm

http://image.blog.livedoor.jp/gmk2/imgs/4/e/4ecb27ed.jpg

[Narci]

Hi, have there been any reports of fake PSP branded 1Gig memory sticks? Cause I'm about to buy one just not sure if there is a chance of it being fake. Model number is PSP-MP1G. Thanks,

Here's picture of it I found on websites in case people don't know what I'm talking about:

http://www.jp.playstation.com/Item/4/6176913.htm

http://image.blog.livedoor.jp/gmk2/imgs/4/e/4ecb27ed.jpg

If your that paranoid..buy it from the sony store or a reputable BM and store like best buy or futureshop.

[blues45]

buying fakes is jus not something i would risk

i dont buy much from retail stores, but something like a memory stick, id jus pay full price

[Maxspeed]

Wholesale cost of a real Sandisk 2GB Non Highspeed is around $130 USD. These are parellel imports in HK. My source tells me this is the real deal and not copies.

I was also told that you could get 2GB SD cards in Shenzhen (across the border of HK in China) for 20USD. Those were fake obviously, but I don't know if they work or not since I have no use for an SD card right now.
I just purchased sandisk 2 gb sd card from ebay. How can I tell its a fake?

[RendX]

I was checking the amazon.com site (US) and they have the sandisk for a MUCH cheaper price than the sony.

In USD:
SanDisk 2GB Memory Stick Pro Duo
$119.99 on sale for $99.99

SanDisk 2 GB Ultra II Memory Stick PRO Duo
$149.99 on sale for $138.99

Sony 2 GB High Speed Memory Stick PRO Duo Media (MSX-M2GN)
$449.99 on sale for $346.99

Seems like the best idea to get it from a reputable big company like amazon if you have an amerifriend?

[wheelz]

Hey guys do you know who would write me an Appraisal letter to verify that my memory stick is fake? I need this letter to put a stop to an ebayer selling fake memory sticks.

[shockr]

My friend just bought one of those fake Sony 2G cards for his psp here in Shanghai for 550RMB (~$70USD).

[shockr]

This week on eBay.com.cn the 2GB stick is going for 430RMB... in other words, $50usd. Don't pay more than that if you want a fake card.

[bahk7]

Yea i Also Bought My Memory stick off ebay also, I bought it off Some guy Call Yaton6262 he was in B.C., My first memory stick worked for about two weeks and it died, So i emailed the guy and he payed for shipping to send it back and sent me another one.The second memory stick lasted about a month and died again, So im trying to get this guy take it back and sending me another one. For sure these memory stick are fake.

[blues45]

i suggest u demand for ur money back, citing that they are fake, not worth ur time to send them back over and over again just to get another fake on in return

[Johnny Powel]

Unfortunatley I did not find this thread until after I made this purchase but I had not paid as yet.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7603517778&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1

I am assuming that Fakes come in all sizes and shapes of memory.What do you guys think about this one ? Hologram is partially blacked out and the seller is a HK drop shipper.I got suspicious when I did a search on the retail price.I don't want a NPB strike from Ebay seller but I also do not like being ripped off.

[shockr]

This week on eBay.com.cn the fake 2GB Sony Pro Duo is going for 400RMB (Buy it Now)...

My guess is they will eventually drop to around 250RMB ($30USD) as the wholesale cost in southern China is around 150RMB ($20).

[DelSolMan]

Hi, have there been any reports of fake PSP branded 1Gig memory sticks? Cause I'm about to buy one just not sure if there is a chance of it being fake. Model number is PSP-MP1G. Thanks,

Here's picture of it I found on websites in case people don't know what I'm talking about:

http://www.jp.playstation.com/Item/4/6176913.htm

http://image.blog.livedoor.jp/gmk2/imgs/4/e/4ecb27ed.jpg

A fake one came with my white PSP. I already thought something was fishy when they billed the card separately when its a giga pack. I hope my psp isn't fake.. heh

[Ogata]

can someone make a sticky for this on the do's and don'ts when purchasing a memory stick? I'm sure it'll be useful for all us consumers. I was about to purchase one but now I do not know.

[Narci]

http://pspupdates.qj.net/Real-V-S-Fake-Inside-The-Memory-Sticks/pg/49/aid/18198

[Hybrid88]

Thanks for the link Narci

[shockr]

360RMB buyitnow on ebay.com.cn this week.

[Xavier]

this happned to my cousin as well, cept he got regular SD or CF memory...cant remember .... but it stopped working after a few weeks.

he got it off ebay :|

[-l-Z3K3-l-]

well i signed up here just because of this thread
i just got a PSP and wanted to get a 2gb duo card for it
Have a 1gb but its just not enough space.

saw this on ebay and it looks good to me
http://cgi.ebay.ie/Sandisk-2GB-Memory-Stick-PRO-DUO-2-GB-SONY-PSP-GAMING_W0QQitemZ7610944660QQcategoryZ18871QQrdZ1QQ cmdZViewItem


what do you all think?

[blues45]

the picture of the card is offical, but that does not mean the actualy card u recieve from the seller will be real

the price of memoery card ahve dropped signifcantly enough to go buy retail, but its up to u

[bigasif]

well i signed up here just because of this thread
i just got a PSP and wanted to get a 2gb duo card for it
Have a 1gb but its just not enough space.

saw this on ebay and it looks good to me
http://cgi.ebay.ie/Sandisk-2GB-Memory-Stick-PRO-DUO-2-GB-SONY-PSP-GAMING_W0QQitemZ7610944660QQcategoryZ18871QQrdZ1QQ cmdZViewItem


what do you all think?

Thats one of the more expensive ones. You can pick an authentic one up from a store (at least in Toronto, not sure where you're located) for $130 plus tax. That auction, uncluding shipping will come to about the same thing, so I don't see why you would risk buying one off ebay in that case. My 2 cents...

[Haz]

My boss just brought back some CF, SD and MSPD from China and they all look suspicious. The 512MB MSPD is in an official looking Sony package but is looks fishy as the card looks slick as mentioned in the article link above. Haven't had time to open it yet.

[yjxiao]

just so you guys know, we are being quoted on Dailytech!

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=1705

Good job fellow RFD'ers!

[eqlsp]

nice find, i remember doing a search when this thread was created and i couldnt find too much over the net, now its everywhere

consquently, i had jus purchased a memory stick from ebay when this thread was created, however it wasen't from an ebay store, jus from a regualr seller selling their old stick, it was authentic...


just so you guys know, we are being quoted on Dailytech!

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=1705

Good job fellow RFD'ers!

[lithiumli]

that's so cool that they directly referenced this thread


just so you guys know, we are being quoted on Dailytech!

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=1705

Good job fellow RFD'ers!

[parpirate]

you think you got a good deal from ebay.. infact.. u got jipped and u don't even know it

for memorycards

CHECK.. you might already have FAKE SONY/SANDISK/LEXAR card

for real ones, the txt on the front and back is clear.. and it is carved into the plastic..

for the fake ones, the text on the card is only printed on.. it can be rubbed off with your thumb after a week of use..

as far as the packaging.. it will say adapter included PRINTED ON THE PACKAGE
not as a separate item for free.. if it saids it is free and the package never even mentioned about the adapter.. it is fake

as i see right now on ebay.. 99% of the memorycards.. no matter where it comes from.. Hongkong, china.. UK, USA.. all fake..

so they are not covered by warranty...
good luck with them


So your saying that the memory sticks that came with my two sony ericsson phones are fake. And the 1s i bought from sony center and Amazon are also fake. Cos the print on those is printed on and not engraved.

[lhsonic]

here is a bump for an old thread.

Yes, although most memory cards are fake on ebay (i bought a fake), there are some pros here... you save a lot more money compared to cards in-store, fake 2GB sony's sell for around 40-50 altogether on ebay, but in stores, the cheapest you can get them for is 70 dollars after rebates, taxes, all that. My fake works fine I regularly back up my data anyways.

[Kalabalana]

I bought a counterfeit mspd 1GB card a year ago, best mistake I ever made.

Absolutely no problems with it at all, no lag, fast transfer speed etc.

Does absolutely everything you need.

Sure I'd like to get genuine too, but if the pirates are producing the same chips but cheaper... Well then we might have some anti-trust issues on our hands.

[Kalabalana]

So your saying that the memory sticks that came with my two sony ericsson phones are fake. And the 1s i bought from sony center and Amazon are also fake. Cos the print on those is printed on and not engraved.

If you got your phones through some store (ie. not your service provider) there's not a small chance that the chips are pirated.

[VegetaSSJ8]

hy, i want to buy a memory stick pro duo for my psp , but after reading all pages , evry memory card i saw i though they where fake ....
http://www.okazii.ro/apache/auc_img/1916624_3.jpg
http://www.okazii.ro/apache/auc_img/1916624_2.jpg
http://www.okazii.ro/apache/auc_img/1916624_3.jpg
there are screens from an auction that i wanted to buy from , so , are they real or fake ?and btw i this
http://www.cardurimemorie.ro/images/card_msproduo_sandisk_2g.jpg
real or fake to ?

[blues45]

if ur looking to buy a stick

just go the Bestbuy right now

cheaps deals and PM with Dell, after rebate, u'll get an amazing deal

search the Hot Deal's section

[Frankie3s]

hy, i want to buy a memory stick pro duo for my psp , but after reading all pages , evry memory card i saw i though they where fake ....
http://www.okazii.ro/apache/auc_img/1916624_3.jpg
http://www.okazii.ro/apache/auc_img/1916624_2.jpg
http://www.okazii.ro/apache/auc_img/1916624_3.jpg
there are screens from an auction that i wanted to buy from , so , are they real or fake ?and btw i this
http://www.cardurimemorie.ro/images/card_msproduo_sandisk_2g.jpg
real or fake to ?


Not sure about the Sandisk but the I'm pretty sure the Sony one is real. The fakes ones that I have seen don't say Complies Canada. They are often simply generically stamped Made in Japan. However, I would just go to Bestbuy myself and pickup one. As the previous post mentioned, they are super cheap right now.

[lhsonic]

Mine is fake (know becasue of packaging and not laser printed text) and it says Complies Canada.

[glau]

I want to buy a Sandisk Pro Duo 512mb memory stick but im not sure whether there are counterfeit versions of 512mb.

Can anyone tell if this item from ebay is fake or not.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=003&item=130033598321&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

[Neovingian]

I've beeen looking at this SD card on e-b-a-y, but I haven't come across to many other $ GB Extreme III cards. There is a possibility it could be fake since the price is almost TGTBT.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=020&item=300035921899&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

[InsomniaK]

I've had a 2GB Pro Duo (fake) for about 6months now with no problems, been data cycled 100's of times with no failures so far, so i guess its a risk you take when you buy a fake...honestly i'd buy another one if i needed one.... :D

[kennyluo]

A easy way to find out if your memory stick is real or not, you need a psp with 3.01+ FW, physical or emulated

Go to either Photo/Music/Video, click Triangle button, then information on the memory stick, then there are 3 pieces of information, "User Capacity", "Free Space" and "MagicGate TM". If your memory stick is real, it will say Supported under "MagicGate TM", else if you are the unfortunate one, it will say Unknown.

I got this off somewhere but I cant find the original post anymore, credit to the one who found this out.

[sPiKyAZN]

A easy way to find out if your memory stick is real or not, you need a psp with 3.01+ FW, physical or emulated

Go to either Photo/Music/Video, click Triangle button, then information on the memory stick, then there are 3 pieces of information, "User Capacity", "Free Space" and "MagicGate TM". If your memory stick is real, it will say Supported under "MagicGate TM", else if you are the unfortunate one, it will say Unknown.

I got this off somewhere but I cant find the original post anymore, credit to the one who found this out.

nice tip!

[Diamond_Ace]

Damn, I read this thread too late. I purchased the following:

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=018&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=280058797873&rd=1&rd=1

Anyone else every buy from JAYLYN712?

All his other auctions are 'PRIVATE'

[kennyluo]

i suggest you that when you receive your memory stick, check if it's real or not, there are tons of information online teaching people how to tell if a memory stick is fake or not, and you can also use the psp method i mentioned, i am not sure if it works on all fakes, but i tried a fake memory stick and a real one, it does say Supported on my real one and Unknown on the fake one

If it happens that its a fake, ask for a refund and send back the memory stick, and tell the seller that you know it's fake

[x86asm]

Damn, I read this thread too late. I purchased the following:

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=018&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=280058797873&rd=1&rd=1

Anyone else every buy from JAYLYN712?

All his other auctions are 'PRIVATE'

The gold writing on that pro duo kinda looks grainy (This is from the photo).

[xb0xb0y]

A easy way to find out if your memory stick is real or not, you need a psp with 3.01+ FW, physical or emulated

Go to either Photo/Music/Video, click Triangle button, then information on the memory stick, then there are 3 pieces of information, "User Capacity", "Free Space" and "MagicGate TM". If your memory stick is real, it will say Supported under "MagicGate TM", else if you are the unfortunate one, it will say Unknown.

I got this off somewhere but I cant find the original post anymore, credit to the one who found this out.

hmmm, gotta check that out tonight when i get home. i have two suspect Sony branded memsticks. one 32mb PSP card and one 512mb card. both do not have laser etched printing on the back.

funny thing is i have two 32mb PSP cards that came with two used PSPs i bought and they are different (one with and one without etching). i'm pretty sure the 512mb is fake and/or defective cuz it's slow as crap to write to.

at least they are small denomination in size and i don't really have a use for them, although the 512mb i would still make use of.

so do all REAL memsticks have laser etched printing on the back?

[richasshit]

I have read the posts here and other places and i want to be honest with you all. I have purchased memory cards off ebay and yes some have looked fake but you know what - who cares?!

I understand and tottally against cases where refunds are not accepted by the original seller if they misled you by telling you its official but in all honesty your paying 24 pounds or dollars for something that costs you over 40!! what are you complaning about?

At end of day i need a memory card because i want more storage e.g. 1GB - i buy a card alot cheaper than retail outlets and it has 1GB storage - i am happy.

Who cares if the packaging is not exactly same? really for the money you just saved.

On the flip side you can check if real by opening up the card the main board wont have official markings . there are other ways .


p.s. 1 thing that is different is sometimes the transfer speed can be slower than official product but again as long as it has 1GB space thats all that matters.

Just being honest saving money and getting the space i need is more important than getting ripped off by sandisk or sony official products as it only costs them less than 5$ to make!



------ By the way we could stop these fakes being sold but they are the only reason the big companies Sony etc havent raised thier prices even further! What do you think they would do ? they produce it for 1-2$ and sell for 30-40!! Bottom line is your looking on ebay for a deal if your so bothered about fakes go pay the extra 20-30$ for a real card!!

[CFRTim]

:arrowu: Very dumb first post for richasshit. Yes I do care when I pay for something, and it's not what I get. This goes for everything, not just the memory sticks. Good luck in life with your kind of logic.

[zabriski495]

Hi!
Could you tell me does it reall ore fake?
http://www.mandarindesigns.com/ebay/MSU2G.jpg
http://www.mandarindesigns.com/ebay/MSU2GBack.jpg
Price is 35$usd

Thanks

[CFRTim]

Hi!
Could you tell me does it reall ore fake?
http://www.mandarindesigns.com/ebay/MSU2G.jpg
http://www.mandarindesigns.com/ebay/MSU2GBack.jpg
Price is 35$usd

Thanks

In general, from what I remember, most of the fakes are SONY ones. Anyway, the prices are very low by now even at more reputable stores with well known suppliers. This thread was stared a while back (about 1 year ago), when retail stores were selling at high prices, but some eBay listings were very, very low.

[blues45]

any threat of Sony m2 fakes?

[shinichi]

I just received one 4GB MSPD from ebay, I wish I checked this thread earlier.
It matches 75% of the fake category description.

Anyway, can I bring it to sony store so they can check it? would they do it?
Is the a sony fraud department hotline or something like that?

[CFRTim]

I think SONY was taking some legal action in regards to this problem, but if you bring it to a SONY store, is not much a rep will do for you, except maybe tell you if it's fake or not

[virtuman1980]

I just received one 4GB MSPD from ebay, I wish I checked this thread earlier.
It matches 75% of the fake category description.

Anyway, can I bring it to sony store so they can check it? would they do it?
Is the a sony fraud department hotline or something like that?


Yes, they will check it for you (at least in my case). I brought a 1GB high speed mspd that I got from ebay (seller id: bestforume) to Fairview Mall Sony store and as soon as the sales rep saw the packaging he told me it's fake :mad:

I went back to the ebay seller with the information and they did issue me a full refund :)

[Aj23]

I bought a 4gb sandisk memory stick pro duo for my psp from futureshop and since i got it there i always believed it was real but after seeing some thigns in the post showing how to find out which cards are legit, i tried one. I went to music photo and vidoe then to information but all that comes up is my mem stick capacity and free space... is it fake and should i exchange it for another one
?

[kcjchan]

I bought a 4gb sandisk memory stick pro duo for my psp from futureshop and since i got it there i always believed it was real but after seeing some thigns in the post showing how to find out which cards are legit, i tried one. I went to music photo and vidoe then to information but all that comes up is my mem stick capacity and free space... is it fake and should i exchange it for another one
?

Use your PSP to check that MAGIC GATE is SUPPORTED. It will say not supported or unknown for fake cards.

[Aj23]

Use your PSP to check that MAGIC GATE is SUPPORTED. It will say not supported or unknown for fake cards.

when i check the mem stick info it doesnt even say magic gate... just user capacity and free space.... could i be because i am running custom firmware and dark alex took out the feature that can tell me?

[ES_Revenge]

You should be able to check MagicGate compatibility with a PC and any MS reader no?

Perhaps not directly (?) but if you use SonicStage and try to put music on an MS, if it doesn't support MagicGate, it won't work. Or wait, can you go from SS --> Card Reader --> MS at all? (I'm not sure.) You might need an audio device that supports MS instead of a card reader, which would make this more difficult.

Edit: Okay I checked in SS and it does say that you should be able to transfer to an MS using a card reader. However I tried with my MS in my digital camera, and connected it and SS doesn't see it so it might have to be in a card reader I guess. Still according to what it says in SS Help, you should be able to verify MagicGate with a card reader and SS, instead of requiring a PSP.

[Krushull]

So most of us know 99.9% of the cards on ebay are fake. What ide like to know is how much they cost to get in Hong Kong? Doubt I would pay the $100+ it costs for legit ones in Australia. Fake ones probably sell for like $2 in HK, wouldn't mind getting a bunch without some ****** ebay seller making a huge profit. :twisted:

[CFRTim]

:confused: You should be able to check MagicGate compatibility with a PC and any MS reader no?

Perhaps not directly (?) but if you use SonicStage and try to put music on an MS, if it doesn't support MagicGate, it won't work. Or wait, can you go from SS --> Card Reader --> MS at all? (I'm not sure.) You might need an audio device that supports MS instead of a card reader, which would make this more difficult.

Edit: Okay I checked in SS and it does say that you should be able to transfer to an MS using a card reader. However I tried with my MS in my digital camera, and connected it and SS doesn't see it so it might have to be in a card reader I guess. Still according to what it says in SS Help, you should be able to verify MagicGate with a card reader and SS, instead of requiring a PSP.

:confused: I am more confuse than ever :confused:

Yes, you can transfer to and from a MSPD using a card reader/writer, I do it all the time. So how do you check for MagicGate again :confused:

[krazy]

:arrowu: Very dumb first post for richasshit. Yes I do care when I pay for something, and it's not what I get. This goes for everything, not just the memory sticks. Good luck in life with your kind of logic.

Fakes Fakes Fakes.... No matter how Sony or Sandisk or Kingston incorporate security feature to ensure that their product is Genuine, it gets cracked. The factories in China are getting so professional that they make a product SOOOO identical that it is even difficult for experienced people to differentiate it at a glance (unless when compared side by side with a genuine product).

So for us ordinary users, it's definitely gonna be very difficult to identify such fakes.

There are lot of fake Kingston / Sony / Sandisk flash cards at the pacific mall... Yes, their incredibly low prices should already ring a bell...

Richashit says he doesn't mind as long as 1Gb is 1Gb.... Wait till he tries to load 1Gb data on his card... it will show 1Gb, but probably it's only 256Mb remarked to 1Gb... system will show 1Gb, but only 256Mb data will go in.... Some of you may not believe this, but I have seen this first hand....


Nothing is impossible in China, if they can capture a US F-16, they will probably have a fleet of them in next couple of years....

[Harbor]

I need some confirmation if I bought a fake one or not. Although, my I'm already 99.9% sure that the Sandisk I bought is a fake, I still a .1% doubt.. >_>

Anyways, I bought it from this guy over here
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=technocards&ftab=AllFeedback&myworld=true

Here are some pics of the memory stick:

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa95/PT-Harbor/IMG_1786.jpg

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa95/PT-Harbor/IMG_1785.jpg

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa95/PT-Harbor/IMG_1784.jpg

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa95/PT-Harbor/IMG_1783.jpg

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa95/PT-Harbor/IMG_1782.jpg

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa95/PT-Harbor/IMG_1781.jpg

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa95/PT-Harbor/IMG_1780.jpg

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa95/PT-Harbor/IMG_1779.jpg

1. I compared it with a picture off Newegg (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.aspx?Image=20-171-130-01.jpg%2c20-171-130-02.jpg&CurImage=20-171-130-01.jpg&Depa=0&Description=SanDisk+4GB+Memory+Stick+Pro+Duo+(MS+P ro+Duo)+Flash+Card+Model+SDMSPD-4096-A10+-+Retail) and I noticed that the little "R" symbol next to the Sandisk letters is not there. In place of the "R" is that little sandisk symbol.

2. I'm not sure if its like this with the official once but the maximum space of the stick is 3877. So if anyone has an official 4gb sandisk memory stick pro duo, are the capacity the same?

3. I tried to put it on the stick reader in my PS3 and it BARELY fits, it can barely fit inside and getting it back out is a bit of a pain.

4. The "E" in Magic Gate is almost rubbed off.

5. I transfered a 250 meg file and it took about 5 minutes to transfer. Not sure if thats fast or not.

[Peridium]

It definitely looks fake. The colour isn't the same as the genuine SanDisk Memory Stick Pro Duo I have. My memory stick is a darker blue than the one in your picture.

The picture from NewEgg is misleading since the close-up picture of the memory stick is not correct. The card should like like the one in the plastic packaging in the second picture.

The capacity of my SanDisk reads 4,094,623,744 bytes from Windows.

To test the transfer speed of your memory stick, you should try using HDTach from here (http://www.simplisoftware.com/Public/index.php?request=HdTach). It is free to use and tests the burst and average read speeds. Just select the drive letter which corresponds to your card reader that you're using.

Let us know how your card does to see if there is any difference.

I need some confirmation if I bought a fake one or not. Although, my I'm already 99.9% sure that the Sandisk I bought is a fake, I still a .1% doubt.. >_>

1. I compared it with a picture off Newegg (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.aspx?Image=20-171-130-01.jpg%2c20-171-130-02.jpg&CurImage=20-171-130-01.jpg&Depa=0&Description=SanDisk+4GB+Memory+Stick+Pro+Duo+(MS+P ro+Duo)+Flash+Card+Model+SDMSPD-4096-A10+-+Retail) and I noticed that the little "R" symbol next to the Sandisk letters is not there. In place of the "R" is that little sandisk symbol.

2. I'm not sure if its like this with the official once but the maximum space of the stick is 3877. So if anyone has an official 4gb sandisk memory stick pro duo, are the capacity the same?

3. I tried to put it on the stick reader in my PS3 and it BARELY fits, it can barely fit inside and getting it back out is a bit of a pain.

4. The "E" in Magic Gate is almost rubbed off.

5. I transfered a 250 meg file and it took about 5 minutes to transfer. Not sure if thats fast or not.

[Career07]

I wonder if the icct one is fake? Selling for $30 less than other retailers. Seems a bit fishy.

http://www.icct.ca/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1534

http://canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=011407&cid=990.190

[CFRTim]

FutureShop has the 4GB SONY MSPD on sale this week for only $99. I think FS has a better supplier than some of those fishy stores

[KrazyGal]

Can anyone tell me if there are 2 different capacities of the Sony 4gb Pro Duo card? I have one that shows 3839MB, magicgate compatible on the PSP and the other one says 3870MB, magicgate compatible as well. I tried rubbing it, stratching at it, but the paint won't come off (on the 3870MB one), which should mean its real. It looks different from my own one (which I know is real, as its the one from the Rogers Promo). Everything on it seems legit. So any thoughts?

Sorry for bringing up an old thread, can't seem to find the answer.

[KillerNo99]

Sorry for bumping an old thread but I really want to find out if I have purchased a fake memory card or not. I have some evidence of the card and the benchmark test here below. I just came across this post after I brought my card. I thiught that it may be a good idea to check on the web if there are discussions about cards being fake. The card looks mint, only brought it yesterday for £12 from eBay. I shouldn't trust them but for this one time i'd thought i'll give it a go.

The user has 99.9% rating, PowerSeller since 2007. Location from the UK and shipped from the UK (got delivery the day after delivery which was quick).

These are a few pictures of the memory card. BTW it didn't come in any packaging because the user said it is cheaper to send without so it came in an anti-static small case and bubble wrapped envelope. (?)

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/5549/copyofdsc00001yh4.jpg (http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/1943/dsc00001jn1.jpg)http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/4410/copyofdsc00002ib2.jpg (http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/3800/dsc00002bi2.jpg)
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/5645/copyofdsc00004dx9.jpg (http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/9093/dsc00004tu4.jpg)http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/5775/copyofdsc00005oj1.jpg (http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8720/dsc00005uh6.jpg)

(Click on images to enlarge)

And I have done this test using HDTach on Long Bench [32mb zones]
This is the result I got. I used the memory card reader through the HP Printer whic has a card reader. My USB version is 2.0. Are these results showing it as a High Speed or what?

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/9756/benchmarktester3.png (http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8436/benchmarktestfr1.png)

(Click on images to enlarge)

I also have formatted the card to check the exact memory it has. The results came out to 2,043,117,568 bytes [1.90GB]

I also did another check in which I uploaded 929mb's of files onto the memory card and it timed out to take 22 minuites. These are Photo's, Video's, Songs, A few mobile games. Is that fast or slow for a High Speed because it didn't really impress me taking 22 mins. Maybe I may be underestimating the speed. Who knows for real?

The memory stick that came with it was a Sony one but that doesn't really look original as I compared it with an original SanDisk adapter and the writing on the back is much sharper than the Sony one which seems to be blured a bit. The adapter doesn't worry me a tiny bit as I don't need it but the memory stick is my need. £12 isn't a lot but the last time I payed £20 for a 4gb Sony, I didn't get the item Or my money.

ALSO note this because I need some help finding out. The number on the back of the card reads MSX-M2GS (S's being slanted) and 'apparently' the High-Speed card is supposed to read MSX-M2GN and the NORMAL 2gb Sony is supposed to read MSX-M2GS. Is this true?

Sorry for the long essay. :P

[janac]

Well one really easy method of finding out if your mspd is genuine or not is to put it in a psp (slim/fat).

-put memory stick pro duo (any gb) inside psp
-go to games, and hover (don't click) the "MEMORY STICK" button
-press triangle
-if it says "MAGICGATE UNKNOWN" then, congratulations! you have a fake memory stick. If it says SUPPORTED, then your lucky, you have a real one :)

[DLFB]

-if it says "MAGICGATE UNKNOWN" then, congratulations! you have a fake memory stick. If it says SUPPORTED, then your lucky, you have a real one

thanks for that very useful info