We want our $5 Billion Back

[mikep]

Although I'm not convinced of the effect this will have, I do think these kids should get as much exposure as possible.

So please take a look at: http://www.wewantourmoneyback.ca/

[Blazin_Sunfire]

God Bless 'em!

[Ojam]

That's ok, I don't want it back, the joy of seeing their housing market go to **** because they can't get cheap wood is payment enough. (which in turn hurts other parts of their ecconomy) and we can make more money using our forests for other things then we can by cutting it down.

[RastaManMax]

I'll take some chicks from the US as payment of the $5billion debt. We really need some in Waterloo.

[UrbanPoet]

big ups to this kid man.. he's doing large things!!!
Its good to see kids involved in politics and advocacy!

[B0000rt]

I'm really confused.

What does McDonalds haev to do with Lumber.

And who the hell eats at McDonalds anyways to begin with?

This makes as much sense as this:
Lets take a stand against the illegal war in Iraq. Boycott Bell Canada!

There is clearly a better reason to boycott McDonalds forever, water Super Size Me.

[TenzoR]

yo yo yo someone tell those kids they are ********

[rc51]

Boycotting the Canadian side of McDonald's just doesn't seem to make sense here.

Kids got the right idea but wrong target.

[fakishan]

mc donalds uses a lot of tree by products in their restaurants (burger and drink boxes, napkins, employees ;) , and in places like south america, they wipe out forests to raise cattle.

[vacitah]

I'm really confused.

What does McDonalds haev to do with Lumber.

This makes as much sense as this:
Lets take a stand against the illegal war in Iraq. Boycott Bell Canada!


Mcdonalds is an american company and all profits go to USA
the mcd i work at makes about 7-10k in sales in a day (i live in a small city)
there are 1375 mcd in canada so...

8000*1375=$11,000,000 in sales for one day
(the sales are approx. and would vary)

#of MCD (http://mcdonalds.ca/en/aboutus/faq.aspx)

[corrupt123]

im not complaing. $5 billion between 30 million people is like $160 bucks a peice.

I could use $160 :lol:

[Headhunter]

The softwood lumber dispute is an issue that desperately needs more international attention. How many gross offenses can the United States commit against international law before other nations step in? Apparently, quite a lot.

It's really rough around the edges, but the kids who run the site have their hearts in the right place...

This makes as much sense as this:
Lets take a stand against the illegal war in Iraq. Boycott Bell Canada!
How is that a valid analogy?

Boycotting the Canadian side of McDonald's just doesn't seem to make sense here.

Kids got the right idea but wrong target.
McDonald's is viewed as a bastion of American commercial dominance, it has symbolic significance. What target would you suggest?

[devious9191]

Mcdonalds is an american company and all profits go to USA
the mcd i work at makes about 7-10k in sales in a day (i live in a small city)
there are 1375 mcd in canada so...

8000*1375=$11,000,000 in sales for one day
(the sales are approx. and would vary)

#of MCD (http://mcdonalds.ca/en/aboutus/faq.aspx)

This isn't true at all. McDonald's is a franchise. The majority of McDonald's franchises in Canada are owned by Canadians... I actually read an article on this this morning in the Ottawa Citizen, that was written by one of these Canadian owners.

http://www.canada.com/ottawa/ottawacitizen/news/letters/story.html?id=6e1bff4a-c95b-4c52-8a30-41807907cfd7

That's the link for it, but unfortunately you need a subscription to read it (which I don't have). In any case, that's the jist of it. Although I'm sure a certain percentage of their gross profits due to go to the franchise, it is a franchise, owned and operated by Canadians.

[devious9191]

The softwood lumber dispute is an issue that desperately needs more international attention. How many gross offenses can the United States commit against international law before other nations step in? Apparently, quite a lot.

They haven't violated International Law. In fact I believe that the WTO recently agreed with their arguments, no? They may have violated NAFTA, but that is outside of the WTO.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20051115.wlumber1115/BNStory/Business/

More info.

[devious9191]

im not complaing. $5 billion between 30 million people is like $160 bucks a peice.

I could use $160 :lol:

Why would you feel entitled to money that was taken from private corporations? Whether legally, or illegally.

[rayesyn]

that's true mate. i say we stop eating at McDs completely.

I'll take some chicks from the US as payment of the $5billion debt. We really need some in Waterloo.

[CodecX81]

I won't be buying Mcdonalds on Dec 3rd!
(I usually doesn't eat out on weekends anyhow tho)

Going up against WalMart. There's an idea!

I got an idea. Let em have the 5 billion...and cancel NAFTA. It wasn't beneficial anyhow.

[hyperion]

I haven't eaten McD for years, go me.

[najibs]

Copy that link and forward it to evderyone on your email list...that way word will get around quick!

[Byrns]

Boycott Walmart! I already do.

At least its owned by Americans.

[Headhunter]

They haven't violated International Law. In fact I believe that the WTO recently agreed with their arguments, no? They may have violated NAFTA, but that is outside of the WTO.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20051115.wlumber1115/BNStory/Business/

More info.
Well, from Dictionary.com (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=international):

Of, relating to, or involving two or more nations

NAFTA would quality as international. I don't think a WTO ruling should supercede that agreement.

[Shaner]

I won't be buying Mcdonalds on Dec 3rd!
(I usually doesn't eat out on weekends anyhow tho)

Going up against WalMart. There's an idea!

I got an idea. Let em have the 5 billion...and cancel NAFTA. It wasn't beneficial anyhow.

NAFTA has been extremely beneficial to Canada. I don't know where you got your information from.

[rc51]

McDonald's is viewed as a bastion of American commercial dominance, it has symbolic significance. What target would you suggest?


Symbolic significance??? About as much significance as the "Don't buy gas on this date" campaign a year or so ago. Remember that? Alot of good that did.

[Headhunter]

Symbolic significance??? About as much significance as the "Don't buy gas on this date" campaign a year or so ago. Remember that? Alot of good that did.
I was talking about the significance of the McDonald's brand in general, not the effectiveness of a boycott.

[15-20_God]

I was talking about the significance of the McDonald's brand in general, not the effectiveness of a boycott.

If we're talking about evil american branding, we might as well put wal mart, coca cola, and marlboro on that list.

but if we're getting even with americans, I personally suggest we chant "CAN-NA-DA...CAN-NA-DA" at every international sporting event, concert, chess match, or any event that involves an american franchise no matter what nationality comprises it.

[i6s1]

I actually think the Americans are right on the softwood lumber dispute. Provincial Governments should be putting logging rights up for auction. Currently, the government just sets prices, which could be under market value. If a (now typically American) compnay is willing to pay more for logging rights, let them pay it. It's more stumpage fees for the real owners of crown land - us.

[robattoronto]

Hah! I'm pretty sure I'm not going to at MickeyD's on Dec 3 anyways. Haven't been for a long time anyways. Their burgers are terrible! :lol:

[Anessa]

free money. I'd take it true RFD style :cheesygri .

[felixdd]

Hmm...given the girth of that child, I'd say he needs to "boycott" McDs for more than just one day!

[Headhunter]

If we're talking about evil american branding, we might as well put wal mart, coca cola, and marlboro on that list.
Yes, but McDonald's seems to be the most popular target.

but if we're getting even with americans, I personally suggest we chant "CAN-NA-DA...CAN-NA-DA" at every international sporting event, concert, chess match, or any event that involves an american franchise no matter what nationality comprises it.
Then they'll go back to booing our national anthem at every event, and...it doesn't help anyone. :|

[B0000rt]

The softwood lumber dispute is an issue that desperately needs more international attention. How many gross offenses can the United States commit against international law before other nations step in? Apparently, quite a lot.

It's really rough around the edges, but the kids who run the site have their hearts in the right place...

How is that a valid analogy?

McDonald's is viewed as a bastion of American commercial dominance, it has symbolic significance. What target would you suggest?
It's valid analogy to lobbying against the American government through boycotting an American company makes no sense.

What does an American fastfood company have ANYTHING to do with the American Government (ok maybe McDonalds has sway in the government, but in regards to lumber?)

How about boycotting something that is more closely related to their cause? Ie, Boycotting Home Depot and supporting Rona?

@felixdd LOL!

[sPiKyAZN]

It's valid analogy to lobbying against the American government through boycotting an American company makes no sense.

What does an American fastfood company have ANYTHING to do with the American Government (ok maybe McDonalds has sway in the government, but in regards to lumber?)

How about boycotting something that is more closely related to their cause? Ie, Boycotting Home Depot and supporting Rona?

@felixdd LOL!

I totally agree. Just for that, I'm going to eat McDonalds on Dec. 3rd :twisted:

Ok and I want those hockey cards lol...