BAD TRADER: BEOWULFZ/ ROB BRINCAT. I'm out $725. Now with more info

[kenazo]

NEW POST:
Ok, everyone here's a guy not to deal with. His name is Rob Brincat. This is everything I have on him:

Brincat, Rob
24 Lauchlin Cr
Georgetown, Ontario L7G5R1
Canada
905-702-0406
416-434-9544

Email addy's:
envirotech@cogeco.ca
whitewolf_17286@hotmail.com

He owns the domain teamk3.com (used to be a clan)

He is also active under the username "Feral" on a few forums, including price n3tw0rk. (RFD's censors don't like that one.. :))

He is still actively scamming people. In May/06 he took a member of RFD for $300. Add that to the $725 he took from me, and the other smaller amounts reported throughout this thread, he has stolen probably $1500 from RFD members.

He is active on thecomputermechanics.com as Beowulfz, and has logged in within the last week or two.

According to his profile on TCM his birthday is February 28, 1978. And he claims to live with his parents.

HE WILL RIP YOU OFF.









THE OLD POST:

His name is Rob Brincat, and he has $725 of mine from a deal for two laptops that he's had since August.

From this thread (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=184003)

I had been in contact with Dealforme on this topic, but I notice that nothing has been posted in the BST main area warning about him.

I've filed a complaint using the RECOL service as suggested on the forums. Hopefully something comes of it.

Just a heads up. And if anyone knows how to get a hold of this guy, let me know please.


December 11th UPDATE:
I had a discussion with him on Dec 9th, and he has agreed to refund my money by Dec 16th. I'm hoping that I can trust him on this, and will keep you posted as to how it goes down.

Thanks again for all your support!

December 16th Update:
He'd promised to get me my money by today. I have not yet seen it, nor have I received a tracking # from the expresspost he was supposed to be sending it by.

[turtletrax]

Holy crap!!!

Where is he from?

Hope this pans out for you.

[alkaholikc]

I hate run away sellers... I'm also out 300$ USD (37x CND$) with a deadbeat seller ): ... I hope you find this guy

[petey]

He lives in the same town as me, he's on my msn from a deal a few months ago. I will msg him if he comes online.

[kenazo]

Good luck w/ the MSN thing, he's probably blocked me already. :) I had him on my MSN too.

By the way, he's also posted the same thread on Anandtech (http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=45&threadid=1615160&enterthread=y)

It appears that he's not actively selling anything, but the name "Rob Brincat" should be added to the "don't trade with" list.

[Kakarot]

:confused: :mad:

Should be killed

search canada 411!

[mxp]

here is what i got off canada411.com

Robert Brincat
street address not available
Emeryville, ON N0R 1C0
(519) 727-4456

hope it helps you .. i hate ppl like that

[kenazo]

The address I sent the money order to was:

Rob Brincat
24 Lauchlin Cr
Georgetown, Ontario L7G-5R1

And he sent me a PM confirming that he received it. I think he said the Georgetown addy was his parents'.

[JAC]

Email: envirotech@cogeco.ca
AIM: cobeowulf
MSN: whitewolf_17862@hotmail.com(NO EMAIL/SPAMBOX)
ICQ: 68869795
YAHOO: whitewolf_17862
HEAT: http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=20459
Home Page: http://www.resellersinc.com
Birthday: Feb 28, 1978

Location:
Georgetown, Ontario L7G 5R1

http://www.teamk3.com/forums/index.php?showuser=1

kornstar369 knows him. (http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:6INYt3vegeEJ:www.gtamotorcycle.com/forum/viewtopic.php%3Ft%3D37775%26highlight%3D%26sid%3Da 1d50f9bbbd7eb724f74a1fc65ea6c6d+whitewolf_17862%40 hotmail.com&hl=en)

[kenazo]

Yeah, i've talked to Kornstar, he'd prefer not to get involved, which I completely respect.

[Sash[DSL]]

this guy has been on my ignore list for a year now. Obviosly low moral values, lowballed my laptop 50% of asking price referring to some local shop selling laptops off at that price, stopped responding when I asked for address/number of the shop to check it out. I think he said he lived in Brampton but I could be wrong.

[kenazo]

What I don't get is that he had 35ish positive heat when I started the deal, and he gave me his email, AIM, MSN, address and phone number, yet he still walked away from it.

[Jrawk]

time for a road trip :)

[Twisted]

I hope u get this ****er

[Ayumix]

*bump*

More people should read this. Be careful in all your deals!

[Oversized Rooster]

I've been reading this story for some time now. It is very tragic how people get f*cked over. As Frank Lopez said in Scarface..."if people would do business the right way, there would be no f*ck-ups like this"

I don't understand how scamming people can live with themselves after that, even if they succeed un-caught.

[tonychau]

could you detail on how he stole your money??
so others could avoid.

[projectgz]

Kill Him!

[Tjalfe]

so why not just call in the cops?.. if you have a paper trail indicating that you paid him for goods and he did not deliver, it is fraud, is it not?.. that is criminal and I am sure they would do something, especially as he is easy to track down :)

[bear-the-merchant]

:lol: why dont you all meet up at starbucks or something go to his place and use your imagination. :-0

[Super strokey]

Put all the personall info inot the first post... what a prick this guy is!

[Twisted]

:lol: why dont you all meet up at starbucks or something go to his place and use your imagination. :-0


are you suggesting we take him out to starbucks? because that's a horrible idea!!!

[kenazo]

could you detail on how he stole your money??
so others could avoid.


Rob had decent heatware, 35 positive, no negative. So, I figured I could trust the guy. Plus, ppl in his thread selling the items seemed to be pretty positive about their experiences with him, so I was OK w/ me sending out the $ to him first, even though I was the one with far higher heat.

Anyway, I sent him the MO around August 16th, On the 25th I got a PM from him saying that he received it and was shipping out the laptops.

A few weeks later I still had no laptops, so I tried to get a hold of him, and finally contacted him on the phone and he said that hte laptops had gotten returned to him saying that they were sent to an invalid address or something stupid. (I gave him my address and it's right, so I have no clue where he actually supposedly sent it to).

Anyway he said he'd purolator it to me and that's the last I've heard from him.

Apparently Dealforme got a hold of him in mid october but that's the last anyone has heard from him and he hasn't logged in to RFD since.

:(

[sungfra]

Would it be helpful to have a feedback forum in RFD to put all this infor together? Although some sellers have positive feedback somewhere else, I rather count on feedback from other RFD members instead.

[Anessa]

Feedback can mean nothing and possibly even faked. I'd recommend local deals if at all possible and checking your cash out on the spot. Seen too many people trying to pass off counterfeit money in big deal transactions. I hope you get this douchebag.

[kenazo]

Feedback can mean nothing and possibly even faked. I'd recommend local deals if at all possible and checking your cash out on the spot. Seen too many people trying to pass off counterfeit money in big deal transactions. I hope you get this douchebag.


well, it's not that I haven't had experience trading... :) I have 145+ heatware and a bunch of ebay feedback.

But I do agree with you that would be ideal, but when you live in hick nowhere Manitoba personal deals aren't really an option.

[sparhawk909]

Sounds like he was lying low waiting for the big whale. Build yourself a nice heatware rating buying and selling small fry until you see a juicy buy. Then scam and run.

[poppa]

Rob had decent heatware, 35 positive, no negative. So, I figured I could trust the guy. Plus, ppl in his thread selling the items seemed to be pretty positive about their experiences with him, so I was OK w/ me sending out the $ to him first, even though I was the one with far higher heat.

Anyway, I sent him the MO around August 16th, On the 25th I got a PM from him saying that he received it and was shipping out the laptops.

A few weeks later I still had no laptops, so I tried to get a hold of him, and finally contacted him on the phone and he said that hte laptops had gotten returned to him saying that they were sent to an invalid address or something stupid. (I gave him my address and it's right, so I have no clue where he actually supposedly sent it to).

Anyway he said he'd purolator it to me and that's the last I've heard from him.

Apparently Dealforme got a hold of him in mid october but that's the last anyone has heard from him and he hasn't logged in to RFD since.

:(

Did you buy a MO from Canada Post? If yes, don't they have some sort of protection? Go to your local authorities! Since this is a high priced item, they may pay more attention compared to petty e-thefts.

[Nubee]

Seem to be living off the money he stole from other people as he got his first =351657]negative feedback (http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=20459&expand[0) for an item he sold that did not materialize. Feedback sure isn't a telling factor if a guy is good to deal with or not.

Hope this works out for you in the end as I have gone thru the same circumstances when I was still new here.

[Anessa]

lol...I didn't know you were from Friendly Manitoba but I do understand. But RFD is a lot different than Ebay in the sense that there's no buyer protection or any of those other mechanisms.

[kenazo]

Did you buy a MO from Canada Post? If yes, don't they have some sort of protection? Go to your local authorities! Since this is a high priced item, they may pay more attention compared to petty e-thefts.


Yes I did. Does anyone know anything about this?

[Lay-Z]

Getting ripped off sucks, I was ripped by a member here before i was even a member, if that makes sense. I hope this all works out for you in the end.

[tubs]

Yes I did. Does anyone know anything about this?

Hey Kenazo.

Regarding the CAnadaPost MO. If you ask for them to cancel it, they basically can't do it. For them, it's basically cash. Once it's out, it's out. However, they could give you a lost money order form to cancel the old one. That's what I had to do before. Didn't work for me though 'coz the guy cashed it out already after scamming me.

Worth a shot...no?

Take care and good luck.

[kenazo]

Hey Kenazo.

Regarding the CAnadaPost MO. If you ask for them to cancel it, they basically can't do it. For them, it's basically cash. Once it's out, it's out. However, they could give you a lost money order form to cancel the old one. That's what I had to do before. Didn't work for me though 'coz the guy cashed it out already after scamming me.

Worth a shot...no?

Take care and good luck.


He's cashed the MO months ago, that's not at all the situation. I'm just wondering if this counts as like Postal fraud or something, and if as such it falls under CP's jurisdiction. In the US postal fraud is a very serious thing and the USPS has a whole investigative devision for such things.

[trixstar]

holy shyt. thats a lot of money. hope u find this biatch..

[ffof]

Free bump
Why don't you guys all get together and report this thief? Get the police or someone with authority to call that number or go to that address, even if it's not his. Chances are the people who answer the door/phone will end up getting scared or fed up with you guys and will end up talking to this guy, wherever he is. They probably would have a better chance at knowing where he is, or at least have his number.

That's a lot of money to be thrown out the window to some shameless SOB, he needs to be taught a lesson. I would not let this die, even if it was a goddanm twonie, the basic principle remains that this kind of crap is unacceptable.

Best of luck

Holy crap Anessa you're nearing the 2000 post mark in just over 60 days, what on earth have you been dealing? :-0

[JayPatel]

ive been trying to contact beo in regards to this trade for the past few days as well. refuses to answer my pms. he was also involved in a previous dispute. How sad.

[MARZ]

I fell bad for you, I hope this all works out.

[7jai]

good luck man. all the best.

[kenazo]

ive been trying to contact beo in regards to this trade for the past few days as well. refuses to answer my pms. he was also involved in a previous dispute. How sad.

He hasn't even logged in since October 11th.


Thanks for trying to help though. :) I appreciate it.

[2furious]

Damn man, thats alot of money. Hope you can get this bastard.

[LaYz3]

even the mods can't reach him :(

i hope things work out for you

[flame02]

all the best guy .. too many ppl ahve been ripped off! Its a shame really ... all the best again

[Brolo]

I had some dealings with this guy a few months back. He wanted my $12 sound card, but I ended up selling it locally before agreeing to sell to him. Well he wasn't too happy about that. :|

Kind of ironic that he had this to say to me...
"Thank you very much your now an Untrusted seller and will be reported."

All seems to be revealed in time. ;)

[Cisco KId]

He hasn't even logged in since October 11th.


Thanks for trying to help though. :) I appreciate it.

I have his contact info for msn/icq, I questioned him about this issue and he said the mailing addy he had was wrong but was gonna straighten the matter out. I see him online regular but do not bother asking him anything more.

PM me and I can provide the contact info.

[Kommander_KornFlakes]

Jesus Christ there must be something that can be done about this vulgar thief, tell me how this story developes because if this guy cannot be touched by authorities even with proof then I'll make myself a living ripping-off people for $750 a week too.

[poppa]

Jesus Christ there must be something that can be done about this vulgar thief, tell me how this story developes because if this guy cannot be touched by authorities even with proof then I'll make myself a living ripping-off people for $750 a week too.

wow man, RFD look out for the next scammer! :lol:

[KingCreole]

Call the police.

[Cisco KId]

he is on the board again I am sure as "beowulfe" I also see him online regularly as he is a msn/icq contact but under a similar user name to the above? Has this been resolved yet? When I questioned him on msn he said he was settling the issue and none of it was his fault claming a wrong shipping addy that did not exist?

[illamega]

thats why i only deal with locals. feel really bad for you. trust nobody! free bump for u and hope u get ur money back

[guanghot]

Hate it when something like this happens. Thieves have no hornor.

[NODES]

he is a regular or was a regular on thecomputermechaincs.com

have a chat with the mods there...

[[]D [] []v[] []D]

Yeah I was gonna say.. he definitely is a regular poster on thecomputermechanics.com

[NODES]

D [] []v[] []D']Yeah I was gonna say.. he definitely is a regular poster on thecomputermechanics.com



they dont deal lightly with scammers either....talk to DEB on there...
i thought he was from the durham region....last time i recall

[BiGGiEx3]

Well, one thing you can do - if he really doesn't contact you, is offer 50% of your purchase as a bounty for him... and I'm sure someone will hop on over to Georgetown.

[kenazo]

he is on the board again I am sure as "beowulfe" I also see him online regularly as he is a msn/icq contact but under a similar user name to the above? Has this been resolved yet? When I questioned him on msn he said he was settling the issue and none of it was his fault claming a wrong shipping addy that did not exist?


I've been gone on an audit for the last couple weeks and hadn't checked out the forums lately.

Some nerve if he's back here as "beowulfe" now. I'm really surprised the mods haven't jumped him then.

He told me that he shipped to the wrong addy, but I'm quite surprised at that. I've asked him where he shipped to then, and of course he's never told me. Even if he had shipped to the wrong addy, surely by now he could have turned it around and gotten it back to me.

How long ago did he say that he was "settling the issue"? I haven't received any contact from him of any type for well over 2 months, probably closer to 3.

At this point, I no longer want the laptops, as I no longer have a need for them. I expect full financial restitution.

[accordperformance]

He's cashed the MO months ago, that's not at all the situation. I'm just wondering if this counts as like Postal fraud or something, and if as such it falls under CP's jurisdiction. In the US postal fraud is a very serious thing and the USPS has a whole investigative devision for such things.


don't even count on USPS
i tried to solve the problem with them be4
this is what they told me:
Sorry sir, there is nothing we can do about it, since we only provide the delivery service here, we deliver what we should, we have no obligate for any lost or any investigation to unsent or unregistered item. You might want to contact your local officer or find futher help with the online resolver.

frigging scammer!!! can't deal with any people from far away, because of all these existence of scammers

[RenegadeX]

You know how there's that show 'Dog the Bounty Hunter' - there should be a bounty-hunter that goes around and catches online scammers.

On another board recently Charlie Wenzel got 'outed' as a repeat-scammer by board members and came good due to the heat he was getting:
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=225183

and there was another punk kid scammer named Chris Marquis that met his untimely demise many years ago after ripping off the wrong person online.

But for the most part, all these scammers think sit there behind their computers and nobody can touch them. And it's unfortunate that people have to resort to 'drastic' measures to get their own back, but what other options do they have? Police say "it's petty crime.. we're too busy or not enough was stolen".

And while cases such as the one in this thread with the laptops has absolutely nothing to do with me, in a way, it *does* : I buy and sell stuff online and one of these days if a scammer isn't busted today, then he'll still be around to rip me off.

And that pisses me off.

I hope that all scammers get what's coming to them.
It may not be tomorrow, it may not be next week - but one day, when you least expect it, your time will come..

[kenazo]

Still unresolved.

[NODES]

get on thecomputermechanics.com


contact DEB or the any mod on there. he is very active on that forum...

[ejay2k3]

they say never deal with thieves, specially the ones who steal and sell things for cheap...i always thought its best for me to buy something off store for 300$ then buy it from a thief for 100$, for the same item. U support the thieves to steal more and rip more ppl. So expect to get ripped off, one day if u keep this habit. I got ripped off once by a thief, and it wont happend again, i rather work my ass off and buy it from store or someone who OWNS a receit for there products on sale, that they bought honnestly...anyways good luck!!!

[kenazo]

$725 is hardly low enough to presume that these laptops were stolen, they were old PII era machines after all.

[kenazo]

Ok, there's been progress.

Rob has contacted me and has assured me that he will be sending out a full refund by Friday, December 16th via Postal Money Order sent using Expresspost. I have confirmed my address with him and look forward to receiving my money.

Just thought you all should know. :)

[xPhyre]

damn hope u get ur money back. keep us updated i wanna know if it works out for u

[jusg88]

beat his scamming ass

[amph1bius]

I just called him and he's there. So he better get you your money! If not, we should all pay a visit!

[kenazo]

I just called him and he's there. So he better get you your money! If not, we should all pay a visit!

Perhaps I should edit my initial post, i received direct contact from him, and he promised to refund my money by next Friday (the 16th or whatever day that is).

Leave him be. :)

Thanks for looking out for me though.

[F.C. Intermilan]

Guys like this need a good old fashion **** kickin.... :mad:

[ChicoQuente]

Amazing. I am very glad to hear you will finally be getting your money back.

[NODES]

Ok, there's been progress.

Rob has contacted me and has assured me that he will be sending out a full refund by Friday, December 16th via Postal Money Order sent using Expresspost. I have confirmed my address with him and look forward to receiving my money.

Just thought you all should know. :)


ask him to show u the M.O recipt and the recipt from the xpresspost transaction

[kenazo]

Well, today is the day that he was supposed to get me the Expresspost tracking number. Let's see if this guy lives up to at least something he promises.

[kenazo]

Well, he was supposed to be getting me the information today as to what the tracking # was, but I haven't received that yet. Thus, I presume that he's broken yet another promise. :(

[gillianchung]

don't buy anything over $300 on the forums........$725?? ouch. i'm not dumping on ppl selling, but...LCDs and stuff, it's better if you buy it from a store or at least get a receipt for the items you buy used here.....

if it's too good to be true, IT PROBABLY IS

[kenazo]

don't buy anything over $300 on the forums........$725?? ouch. i'm not dumping on ppl selling, but...LCDs and stuff, it's better if you buy it from a store or at least get a receipt for the items you buy used here.....

if it's too good to be true, IT PROBABLY IS
Don't be an ass. I've bought maybe upwards of $50,000 off of various forums and have had great success in the past, as I'm sure the majority of the users on the forums could also atest to.

Every once and a while there is someone who's just gunning to rip somebody off. This guy, I fear was one of them.

[xwar]

how are things going with the refund? Good luck!

[itsmypostoffice]

if it's too good to be true, IT PROBABLY IS
i've purchased over $2600 on one transaction and traded over $4000 that whole day. that's small fry compared to more sr. members on this board -- if you research and perform your due diligence then things will work out. make sure you can track your item's history and ask your seller to provide a warranty on top of the manufacturer's (no matter how limited). if something goes wrong try to resolve it privately but warn others if that trader is a troll. there are several project managers & suppliers on this board who may have surplus items. if you prefer to purchase in-store that's great (i do that as well), but if i know a dependable seller i'll stick with him/her -- that's why we have heatware & B U M P RFD'ers in good standing.

if you doubt my word you can PM guys who have traded $1600 laptops & $200 electronics from me. they'll vouch on my track record.

[kenazo]

how are things going with the refund? Good luck!


No word from him yet. He was supposed to contact me on Friday w/ a tracking number for the MO, which he didn't.

By the way, your avatar disturbs me. :)

[IvanAndreevich]

gillianchung
I'd trust some people off the forums more than a store :D

[kenazo]

Merry Christmas! And still no money. :(

[legendofxix]

Someone in Georgetown go to his "parents house" and wait for this bastard to show up.
WHen he does, club is ass.

[YLSF]

oh man.. I feel bad for you... What an a-hole that keeps BSing like that!!

[itsmypostoffice]

Merry Christmas! And still no money. :(
i cannot believe after making and breaking all those promises he still hasn't stepped up to the plate. just refund kenazo's money...holy smokes, i drove 40km just to replace an order or batteries without question. how hard is it to EMT a refund or send a certified cheque?

Rob Brincat deserves worse than just bad heatware feedback :mad:

[kenazo]

Now for today's "no update" update.

[kenazo]

Well, it's a new year, time to start pursuing some more serious remedies to my lack of laptops/$725. Any clue who to contact to make things happen? OPP? RCMP? Someone else? :)

Kenton

[champ91]

try everything you can, but the odds dont' look so good for you bud. good luck :)

[Moalz5]

Any luck?

[NODES]

try the RCMP, i think they have an online fraud section...

[princeofpersia]

Well, it's a new year, time to start pursuing some more serious remedies to my lack of laptops/$725. Any clue who to contact to make things happen? OPP? RCMP? Someone else? :)

Kenton

You CAN in fact go to the OPP/RCMP to this matter... definately a fraud matter and they do take it seriously.

[kenazo]

Still no word from Rob.

[petey]

I sent him a msg on msn, no response. The Georgetown police would love to deal with this matter since they have nothing else to do, call them.
I'm pretty sure this is the non-emergency Georgetown Police number.


11 Division, 217 Guelph Street, Georgetown L7G 4A8
Phone: (905) 873-0377

[Buythis]

i hope u catch this guy but somehow he scammed you so im prety sure its gonna come bak to him like thy say whteva goes around comes around so everyone on redflags be cautious you never know who your dealing with because one time i almost got a counterfiet but luckily i was nearby a store so i brought the guy to the store and asked the store owner to check them for me and i found one counterfiet and the guy tried to run but luckily we caught the guy and he ended up paying me more then he should've, but i dont think he comes on Rfd even if he does his number is (647)888-9491 so please look out for that number, his name is Jin.

[BestSeller]

:confused: :mad:

Should be killed

search canada 411!
LOL :D

[Ghetto_Child]

I see him come online from time to time. He chats with me occasionally and discusses items he's looking for. He's online right now. The e-mail I have is the same as the one listed on the first page of this thread.

[Midevilshadow]

I know this sounds stupid, and sinking to his level, but you could pretend to be someone else, try to sell him something for $725, get payment, and do the same as he did to you. If he thretens to call the police on you, tell him who you are and tell him you already have a report on him all filled out and ready to go to the police unless he just goes away, and let you keep that $725 that he owes you.

Then again... you may end up in trouble... since the "He did it first" thing doesn't work for police.

[hackex]

dang......that's very sad

i've also had a bad experience with this person. bought a few printers of this guy.........and haven't been able to use ne1 of them. they were cheap.....like 50bux for 4 of them. one was laser, two were bubble jet and the fourth was an all in one without ne cartridges. the laser and bubble jet were suppose to be in working order and compatible with windows 2000. but the 2 bubble jet haven't worked. the laser worked for like 2 days and there was a line showing on each print.......i messaged him and he told me to open the top and clean the drum with a soft cloth. upon closing the tab the printer started giving error. has been dead ever since.

i only lost 50 bux....but this is way beyond.

i shud have reported this guy but not sure if it wud have helped......bak then i was using ************.

[Dark-Colonel]

That really sucks, I couldn't imagine getting frauded and what I would do ...

Having the connections I have and the size I'd take this to the limit.

If bones have to be broken to get some peoples head straight it can be done.

Anyway, good luck and hope you get it back.

$725 ... thats a lot of money ... but the tables will turn eventually :)

Don't give up.

[square_pusher]

I sent him a msg on msn, no response. The Georgetown police would love to deal with this matter since they have nothing else to do, call them.
I'm pretty sure this is the non-emergency Georgetown Police number.


11 Division, 217 Guelph Street, Georgetown L7G 4A8
Phone: (905) 873-0377

kenazo, I think you should give the Police a call and see if they can help you. Forget ''what goes around comes around'', how long are you going to wait for that to happen? Maybe it's time to take some action instead...

Good luck to you!

[fmpsportsguy2]

unfortuanetly... me thinks your screwed, try the cops but I'm pretty sure they'll just tell you its a "civil" matter and refer you to small claims court, which is always an option, as long as you have documentation to back up your case (money order receipt, transcripts of email,phone messages)

GL

[- $Chronic_Hustler$ -]

how omce this member is still a vaild member of redflagdeals and isn't banned yet.

[felix]

Because if you ban him, he'll just disappear and come back under a different username. It won't help anyone get their money back.

[guest06]

Whats the update with the refund? Im a newbie here, but i just hate to see people lose their money like that...despite the length of time this has been going for, i hope you havn't given up kenazo, and i hope that you eventually get your money back...or revenge...cuz thats sweeter :cheesygri

[ah802]

To be sure... always keep a copy of the postal money order. With this information the transaction can be tracked... You'll get at least the 'real' name and address of the person who cashed it, which is recorded (you need a least two pieces of ID) and with any luck he used his drivers lic. number. This is enough information to go to court.. I doubt the police will do much considering the amount involved unless he's done it to many others.

I suspect you'll get a judgement in small claims court, but collecting this judgement will be a chore... but eventually you'll get your hands on something.

I don't deal unless I'm driving distance, they send first, cod, or I don't care if I lose... guess it limits my deals, but also limits my loses.

[kenazo]

Guys, some of your suggestions against Beowulfz (Rob) are getting incredibly vile and unnecessary.

He has re-established contact with me, and assures me that repayment will be coming. I look forward to receiving that money.

I do appreciate the suggestions and support that you've shown to me during this, however suggesting that I should retaliate through violence is a little out of place.

Perhaps I have a little too much faith in people, but I do believe that this will work out in the end.

I still suggest that you avoid dealing with this fellow until this situation is resolved. Once it is resolved to the liking of both parties, I will definately ask that this thread be removed.

Thank you.

[RenegadeX]

Once it is resolved to the liking of both parties, I will definately ask that this thread be removed.
You cannot erase history.
Any seller that allows a situation to go unresolved for 3 months is a bad seller in my books. Removing doesn't achieve anything, and only serves to help the seller have a good reputation, whereas if it's left here at least a future buyer can look at the facts and decides if he wants to risk going through the same headaches as you.

Pls don't delete.
Thanks.

[poppa]

Guys, some of your suggestions against Beowulfz (Rob) are getting incredibly vile and unnecessary.

He has re-established contact with me, and assures me that repayment will be coming. I look forward to receiving that money.

I do appreciate the suggestions and support that you've shown to me during this, however suggesting that I should retaliate through violence is a little out of place.

Perhaps I have a little too much faith in people, but I do believe that this will work out in the end.

I still suggest that you avoid dealing with this fellow until this situation is resolved. Once it is resolved to the liking of both parties, I will definately ask that this thread be removed.

Thank you.

Did he give reason as to why repayment is taking so long? I also believe that this thread should not be deleted. What if this person does the samething again to another member?

[kenazo]

You cannot erase history.
Any seller that allows a situation to go unresolved for 3 months is a bad seller in my books. Removing doesn't achieve anything, and only serves to help the seller have a good reputation, whereas if it's left here at least a future buyer can look at the facts and decides if he wants to risk going through the same headaches as you.

Pls don't delete.
Thanks.


Sorry about that, I didn't mean that the thread should be deleted, just that the personal attacks against him should be removed. It's ture that this is history, and should be reflected in RFD, however there was no reason for the personal attacks against him/threats, regardless of how injest they might have been.

That said, he said the reason I haven't been paid back yet is b/c of a lack of funds on his part. He's promised to pay me back, although in installments, though I am still being quite wary. He's promised me things before, and am hoping that he delivers this time.

[BestSeller]

$700???? Something That Has To Be Dealt With.....

[kenazo]

Just an update that I have no money yet.

The reason I'd posted a few months ago that I wanted this thread removed was b/c he emailed me and promised to send me my money. Still nothing. :(

[poppa]

Just an update that I have no money yet.

The reason I'd posted a few months ago that I wanted this thread removed was b/c he emailed me and promised to send me my money. Still nothing. :(

Did you go to the authorities?

[kenazo]

I honestly haven't had time yet. Accountants don't seem to have a lot of time during the day to do personal things...

It's on my schedule though.

[7jaii]

Why is this thread still open? Why hasn't BEOWULFZ/ ROB BRINCAT been banned!

Jokes man, kenazo I don't know you but I'd love to have you as my neighbour because then I can toss my trash, snow, park on your lawn, let me dog go on your lawn and play my music at 3AM knowing you don't have a backbone.

Look at how many guys helped you out and how tracked the guy down. Still no cash? Heck even if he REFUNDED your money he should still be banned for taking so long. If you don't liek your money let me hold it. I promise you can have it back (when I feel like returning it to you).

Comon man go get your money. This thread gives every scammer incentive to rip us off. When you won't chase this guy, all scammers get braver :evil:

[Cisco KId]

I honestly haven't had time yet. Accountants don't seem to have a lot of time during the day to do personal things...

It's on my schedule though.


doode you have dragged this on far too long, you shoulda had this solved a while ago. obviously the cash is not that imp. anyways rather than telling us a sob story just go try to solve it do what ya goota do. But honestly this thread is dead as you have not really made an effort and you have been offered enough suggestions/advice and help. this thread started in Nov/05 it is now April 06 let it go now.......

[NODES]

doode you have dragged this on far too long, you shoulda had this solved a while ago. obviously the cash is not that imp. anyways rather than telling us a sob story just go try to solve it do what ya goota do. But honestly this thread is dead as you have not really made an effort and you have been offered enough suggestions/advice and help. this thread started in Nov/05 it is now April 06 let it go now.......


holy crap...i thought this got resolved a while back...

[sounar]

That really stinks...Maybe this would help, if you know the scammers correct first and last name you may find his number and home address on this international person directory..good luck. Here's the site. http://us.ixquick.com/eng/phone.html

[kenazo]

That really stinks...Maybe this would help, if you know the scammers correct first and last name you may find his number and home address on this international person directory..good luck. Here's the site. http://us.ixquick.com/eng/phone.html

Well, his name is Robert Brincat, and one does show up in that search. I'll have to give it a try.


And, no, this is still not resolved. I've spoke with some local police and they don't think the police in Georgetown will be able to do anything, since this is really a breach of contract, which is a civil matter. But hey, maybe I'll be able to get a hold of a someone willing to help.

And as for the length of time, he has been keeping in contact with me from time to time, promises me my money, asks for the address, etc... which has been the reason I haven't been pursuing legal action. Evidently his word is useless, and now I have time, and will be getting my money back one way or the other.

either way, why has this guy not been banned yet? He should definately be on a bad trader list.

[Phat_cow]

If you have his contact info. File a small claims.

[Digital Wiz]

People's Court?.. nah dont go there rofl.. everytime i watch this show i always laugh my ass off... seeing these people wasting the judges time over some pokemon cards or some stupid love affaire..

[Renniegade]

Well, his name is Robert Brincat, and one does show up in that search. I'll have to give it a try.


And, no, this is still not resolved. I've spoke with some local police and they don't think the police in Georgetown will be able to do anything, since this is really a breach of contract, which is a civil matter. But hey, maybe I'll be able to get a hold of a someone willing to help.

And as for the length of time, he has been keeping in contact with me from time to time, promises me my money, asks for the address, etc... which has been the reason I haven't been pursuing legal action. Evidently his word is useless, and now I have time, and will be getting my money back one way or the other.

either way, why has this guy not been banned yet? He should definately be on a bad trader list.

I love reading these horror stories; they are so entertaining and also informative. As I've read several I've learned a few things. One guy had given the advice of contacting the local law enforcement (as you said won't do anything) and his advice was once they brush you off, let them know you are going to contact the local prosecutors office and they should get real serious real fast according to the post I read. You have so much information, if you gave them it the individual should be giving you your money back within a specific period of time. I personally am not sure if this will work, but it was advice from someone who ran into a loser of similar low morals. I not rich by any means, so if something like this happened to me I would be bounty hunting! Good luck dude.

[bernZ]

I have been scammed by Rob Brincat too, for $30 [its still money.]

I have tried all the possible means to contact him, to no avail.

[kenazo]

I just received a PM from a member here who got scammed out of ~$300 by Rob too.

Regardless of your thoughts on my handling of my situation, why has this guy not been banned and put on the bad trader list yet?

[FastFokker]

Regardless of your thoughts on my handling of my situation, why has this guy not been banned and put on the bad trader list yet?Maybe the list is full.

[Ryan]

Well just an FYI, but the user in question hasn't even logged on to RFD since October 2005.

So if this guy scammed someone else recently, it wasn't as "beowulfz"

[kenazo]

Well just an FYI, but the user in question hasn't even logged on to RFD since October 2005.

So if this guy scammed someone else recently, it wasn't as "beowulfz"

Yeah, I just noticed that too. I'm not sure how Rob contacted the other fellow.

[Ghetto_Child]

The guy comes on msn very regularly. I never see him as online because he says his msn is damaged so he always appears offline but when I'm chatting wtih him his msn remains with offline status :confused: really wierd but the perfect way to hide from everyone. I can't even send him an msn message but I am able to reply when he initiates the convo, his status remains offline even during a convo :confused: . As much as I hate to do this I'm debating making a trade with the guy, absolutely no one on RFD wants to take my motherboard but he desperately wants it, seeing as I'm bankrupt he's my only option. If he takes the board I will wait for him to ship his parts first and I'll share the address info for your benefit.

He currently builds servers for people and even mentioned that he sells truckloads of flattened empty computer cases to recycling plants for the money. Something like $400 per truckload he gets.

[bernZ]

its possible to initiate conversation in MSN if you have MSN plus, by using the commend /msg

it'll open up a window with that person and you can message them. granted, they will have to be logged in to see the messages.

[Ghetto_Child]

Can you paste the command string? I have msn 7.0 non-plus but I'm curious to see if the command string would work on my system too.

[kenazo]

updated the original post with the following:

NEW POST:
Ok, everyone here's a guy not to deal with. His name is Rob Brincat. This is everything I have on him:

Brincat, Rob
24 Lauchlin Cr
Georgetown, Ontario L7G5R1
Canada
905-702-0406

Email addy's:
envirotech@cogeco.ca
whitewolf_17286@hotmail.com

He owns the domain teamk3.com (used to be a clan)

He is also active under the username "Feral" on a few forums, including price n3tw0rk. (RFD's censors don't like that one.. )

He is still actively scamming people. In May/06 he took a member of RFD for $300. Add that to the $725 he took from me, and the other smaller amounts reported throughout this thread, he has stolen probably $1500 from RFD members.

He is active on thecomputermechanics.com as Beowulfz, and has logged in within the last week or two.

According to his profile on TCM his birthday is February 28, 1978. And he claims to live with his parents.

HE WILL RIP YOU OFF.

[jstyle]

wait wtf? how come we have guys like this getting away?
he scammed about $2000 and hes living a good life? if that address is real why dont we drive down there and talk to him face to face.

[Ghetto_Child]

I chatted with him today. I'm still negotiating a deal with him for my motherboard. Sorry folks but if he does accept a deal I'm going to have to take it. I'm bankrupt and as much as I hate what he's doing, I absolutely need the money and need to get this motherboard outta here. NO ONE ON RFD IS WILLING TO TAKE THIS BOARD FROM ME so he's my only option. I'm obviously going to make him ship first though. At the moment he's offered me a NetGear WGT634U 108 Mbps Wireless router and I'm interested in taking that for my motherboard.

[MrKat]

OP, did you get your money back?

[kenazo]

I chatted with him today. I'm still negotiating a deal with him for my motherboard. Sorry folks but if he does accept a deal I'm going to have to take it. I'm bankrupt and as much as I hate what he's doing, I absolutely need the money and need to get this motherboard outta here. NO ONE ON RFD IS WILLING TO TAKE THIS BOARD FROM ME so he's my only option. I'm obviously going to make him ship first though. At the moment he's offered me a NetGear WGT634U 108 Mbps Wireless router and I'm interested in taking that for my motherboard.

Go ask him for my $725 when you talk to him. He is a thief and a liar.

[Ghetto_Child]

Since my last post here I think I've seen him come online like once. He was offering me a choice between a really nice wireless router or cash. Either way he's supposed to send first before I send him anything. Still he hasn't finalized any deals with me, just discussed some options and expressed major interest in my board. Since back in June I havn't seen him online and have not received any messages from him either. Guess he's the touch and go unreliable type. If I do end up making a trade or sale with him I will ask him about your $725.

[kenazo]

Since my last post here I think I've seen him come online like once. He was offering me a choice between a really nice wireless router or cash. Either way he's supposed to send first before I send him anything. Still he hasn't finalized any deals with me, just discussed some options and expressed major interest in my board. Since back in June I havn't seen him online and have not received any messages from him either. Guess he's the touch and go unreliable type. If I do end up making a trade or sale with him I will ask him about your $725.

There's the understatement of the year. :)

This guy is more than unreliable, he should probably be in jail.

[Gogi]

Wow kenazo...just unbelievable. How can these people live with themselves knowing they just STOLE such a large amount of cash from someone who wanted to make an honest deal ? He's obviously done this before, and one day it'll ALL get back to him. I actually pity him...he and others like him are nothing but filth.

It looks like I am also in a situation where I have quite frankly been screwed on rfd (money sent, product not received). I'll give the guy a few more days before his name is on here and I'll personally pay him a visit if necessary. I'll pick you up on the way kenazo, I wouldn't mind a drive down to Georgetown.

[Gogi]

I chatted with him today. I'm still negotiating a deal with him for my motherboard. Sorry folks but if he does accept a deal I'm going to have to take it. I'm bankrupt and as much as I hate what he's doing, I absolutely need the money and need to get this motherboard outta here. NO ONE ON RFD IS WILLING TO TAKE THIS BOARD FROM ME so he's my only option. I'm obviously going to make him ship first though. At the moment he's offered me a NetGear WGT634U 108 Mbps Wireless router and I'm interested in taking that for my motherboard.

There's a man here who is almost out of a 1000 bucks, and you're here advertising your board because noone will take it off you. I suggest lowering the price and buying some morals.

[MrKat]

Wow kenazo...just unbelievable. How can these people live with themselves knowing they just STOLE such a large amount of cash from someone who wanted to make an honest deal ?.

no kidding eh :|

[liquidmc420]

If the price is right i will lay him a beating.. ;) Let me know

[Ghetto_Child]

There's a man here who is almost out of a 1000 bucks, and you're here advertising your board because noone will take it off you. I suggest lowering the price and buying some morals.

I'm not advertising my board I'm just saying I'm bankrupt. No one wanted to trade with me but he was willing so he looked liked my only option. At the same time if I get a successful trade I'll pass along the address info and you can just walk on over there.

[john widow]

wow, that's a lot of info on this guy......he must feel ashamed.

[ace321]

should report this to the police or fraud department

[CARLiTO_]

I have dealt with this guy 2 years ago and I have to say he was pretty decent. I bought a tv off him and he even came to my house to deliver it.

[kenazo]

should report this to the police or fraud department

Been done.

Being a breach of contract it's a civil matter though, so short of suing him, I'm out of luck.

Just keep an eye out for him and realize that this guy is a thief. Plain and simple, he is a thief. He has stolen from me, and many others on this forum.

He's active on a few other Canadian sites, namely price network and should be avoided.

[Mattones]

Its been Months.. Juts go to his house already.. for that much money I would gatehr a bunch of people up who he ripped and stand outsdie his house make sure to bring all the info so if he or someone calls the police you stick it to them. Soon enough day after day ringing his door bell every do often and asking for it or telling people on his street he will soon have a load of people hating him then give it back so you will leave.

[rogeryen]

Its been Months.. Juts go to his house already.. for that much money I would gatehr a bunch of people up who he ripped and stand outsdie his house make sure to bring all the info so if he or someone calls the police you stick it to them. Soon enough day after day ringing his door bell every do often and asking for it or telling people on his street he will soon have a load of people hating him then give it back so you will leave.

I agree too. If calling and emailing don't work, then go and see him in person, take him to the police if you have to. It's not about the money anymore, it's about making yourself feeling justified. I know you live far away, but if you let him get away, you are going to feel pissed everytime this event comes to your mind, for your whole life, might as well try to straighten it out.

From 411.ca:
(905) 702-0406 is a land line based in Georgetown, ON
The registered service provider is Bell Canada**.
Detailed listing information is not available.

If it's a land line phone, then it's probably the phone in his house, and if his claim that he is living with parents is true, then maybe you can keep calling, and hopefully someone other than him will pick the phone up. You could just tell'em the whole story, or just to confirm that he is still there and then you can take a real vacation trip to Ontario since Georgetown is so close to Toronto and other major cities, and visit him while you are at it, and maybe you could get this stuff sorted out. It will make you feel ALOT better.

[freeloader1969]

Being a breach of contract it's a civil matter though, so short of suing him, I'm out of luck.


Then a $725 dollar beating is in order! ;)

[ElectroniX]

this is the reason why im totally against.. paying way b4 receiving a product..
The only way i would buy somethin b4 i received it is through Paypal.. besides that, there are enough con-artists out there.. its not hard to con people, and rip them off.. its the self respect you have for your self and the respect that you have for others that should prevent it..

[postclean]

So what's going on now?

[kenazo]

I'm still out. This guy is still evil and I hope he gets perma-banned from any forum he frequents. (Including this one) :(

I've been a long time trader and member of RFD, and have never been burned by anyone before. You guys are all awesome traders, but if ever there was a bad apple, he was it.

[amph1bius]

i HATE to see this stuff happening.

I just called his house and his mom picked up, so infact he does live with his parents, however he was not home.

[Flyhigh]

man If I were you, I would call the dudes house everyday at 3AM to wake their whole family up :razz:

But yeah honestly hope something is done about this situation, and that you get your money back! hate scammers they should all die and burn in hell

[Jon Lai]

man If I were you, I would call the dudes house everyday at 3AM to wake their whole family up :razz:

But yeah honestly hope something is done about this situation, and that you get your money back! hate scammers they should all die and burn in hell

That means OP would have to wake up at 3AM to call him, lol.

Or, if he could've somehow engineered something to call them up automatically...

[kenazo]

lol... I just called him. :D

It's 1:30cst, so that must make it almost 3am his time.

The conversation went as follows:

Me: "Hi, it's Kenton and you owe me $725"
Rob: "Dude it's 3am"
Me: "and you've owed me $725 for almost 2 years, I don't care"
Rob: "we're not doing this, I'm going back to bed"
Me: "Have fun, I'm going to keep calling..."

The best part was both him and his mom picked up at the same time and I asked for Rob right away.

Mom: "Rob, is that for you"
Rob: "yeah mom, go to bed"

he hee... The best part was how tired they both sounded. I hope I got his attention again. Rob, I know you're going to read this... I'm going to keep calling you until I get my money, so change your phone number or send it to me...

[Composter]

lol... I just called him. :D

It's 1:30cst, so that must make it almost 3am his time.

The conversation went as follows:

Me: "Hi, it's Kenton and you owe me $725"
Rob: "Dude it's 3am"
Me: "and you've owed me $725 for almost 2 years, I don't care"
Rob: "we're not doing this, I'm going back to bed"
Me: "Have fun, I'm going to keep calling..."

The best part was both him and his mom picked up at the same time and I asked for Rob right away.

Mom: "Rob, is that for you"
Rob: "yeah mom, go to bed"

he hee..

all due respect to your situation but doing this to much could get you a harassment charge believe it or not!

[kenazo]

all due respect to your situation but doing this to much could get you a harassment charge believe it or not!

Well, don't give him ideas...

Point taken. I forgot that he was a time zone ahead of me... yeah, that's it.

[WLJ101]

Can the police do something in this situation?? I guess not....

I remember I watched the News on TV, the police stated that even a guy stole a $50 gas in a gas station, they would do nothing about that $50.

*sigh*

[davei]

Just the other day I saw someone run away from paying for a $2 hotdog. Some people are just f'd in the head.

[rajab04]

all due respect to your situation but doing this to much could get you a harassment charge believe it or not!

You got a point. :idea:

[aKiu]

well u got his contact info... and spoke to him on the phone already... gl, ur almost there to recovery

[Ghetto_Child]

too bad you can't get his bank account and go to a teller machine deposit $725 but insert an empty evelope :twisted: . He'll have some explaining to do at that point. Even worse if you pull out $725 the next day, FRAUD.

Why not make a $725 loan in his name, you have all his info already. Isn't there a way to do that with his info?

[diabolical7]

too bad you can't get his bank account and go to a teller machine deposit $725 but insert an empty evelope :twisted: . He'll have some explaining to do at that point. Even worse if you pull out $725 the next day, FRAUD.

Why not make a $725 loan in his name, you have all his info already. Isn't there a way to do that with his info?

DO IT!

[rubberband]

too bad you can't get his bank account and go to a teller machine deposit $725 but insert an empty evelope :twisted: . He'll have some explaining to do at that point. Even worse if you pull out $725 the next day, FRAUD.

Why not make a $725 loan in his name, you have all his info already. Isn't there a way to do that with his info?

What.. the.. fcuk?

The only person explaining anything will be YOU, when the cops are stuffing your moronic ass into a cruiser after the bank IDs you from any one of the closed circuit feeds at the ATM.

Fraud? Theft? Would you like to go to jail? Argh.

[ReBeL]

Can the police do something in this situation?? I guess not....

I remember I watched the News on TV, the police stated that even a guy stole a $50 gas in a gas station, they would do nothing about that $50.

*sigh*

We're not talking $50 here..... It's theft over $500 !!!.........

Call the police station closest to where he lives.......

If the police tell you they won't/can't do anything then ask them
for the phone number of the District Attorney's Office. Ask for and
write down the officer's name and badge number.

Call the District Attorney's office and explain what happened with
the thief and that the police stated they won't do anything. The
police will do something after that phone call.

This is assuming you have proof you shipped the turd those items......

I bet they'd send out a swat team if a Tim Hortons was being robbed.....

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