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sk8
Oct 22nd, 2005, 04:10 PM
Check out this link http://www.philosophersnet.com/games/god.htm
click the link at the bottom to start.
It's a critical thinking quiz which tests the concept behind your ideology. pretty cool.
In this activity you’ll be asked a series of 17 questions about God and religion. In each case, apart from Question 1, you need to answer True or False. The aim of the activity is not to judge whether these answers are correct or not. Our battleground is that of rational consistency. This means to get across without taking any hits, you’ll need to answer in a way which is rationally consistent. What this means is you need to avoid choosing answers which contradict each other. If you answer in a way which is rationally consistent but which has strange or unpalatable implications, you’ll be forced to bite a bullet.
I took three direct hits and one bullet the first time.
How did you do?
Ngo_35
Oct 22nd, 2005, 04:29 PM
taking first year philosophy will help with this thing. Pretty neat!
nkn1983
Oct 22nd, 2005, 05:05 PM
0 direct hits and 2 bullets and I got the medal of distinction. Not too bad.
hyperion
Oct 22nd, 2005, 05:13 PM
You took 1 direct hit and you bit 1 bullets. The average player of this activity to date takes 1.39 hits and bites 1.11 bullet. 285297 people have so far undertaken this activity.
You have been awarded the TPM medal of distinction! This is our second highest award for outstanding service on the intellectual battleground.
The fact that you progressed through this activity being hit only once and biting very few bullets suggests that your beliefs about God are well thought out and almost entirely internally consistent.
The direct hit you suffered occurred because one set of your answers implied a logical contradiction. The bitten bullets occurred because you responded in ways that required that you held views that most people would have found strange, incredible or unpalatable. At the bottom of this page, we have reproduced the analyses of your direct hit and bitten bullets.
Because you only suffered one direct hit and bit very few bullets, you qualify for our second highest award. A good achievement!
Neat.
bionicbadger
Oct 22nd, 2005, 06:29 PM
You have reached the end!
Congratulations! You have made it to the end of this activity.
You took zero direct hits and you bit zero bullets. The average player of this activity to date takes 1.39 hits and bites 1.11 bullets. 285314 people have so far undertaken this activity.
Click the link below for further analysis of your performance and to see if you've won an award.
Congratulations!
You have been awarded the TPM medal of honour! This is our highest award for outstanding service on the intellectual battleground.
The fact that you progressed through this activity neither being hit nor biting a bullet suggests that your beliefs about God are internally consistent and very well thought out.
A direct hit would have occurred had you answered in a way that implied a logical contradiction. You would have bitten bullets had you responded in ways that required that you held views that most people would have found strange, incredible or unpalatable. However, you avoided both these fates - and in doing so qualify for our highest award. A fine achievement!
How did you do compared to other people?
* 285314 people have completed this activity to date.
* You suffered zero direct hits and bit zero bullets.
* This compares with the average player of this activity to date who takes 1.39 hits and bites 1.11 bullets.
* 7.63% of the people who have completed this activity, like you, emerged unscathed with the TPM Medal of Honour.
* 45.81% of the people who have completed this activity took very little damage and were awarded the TPM Medal of Distinction.
Easy
hugh_da_man
Oct 22nd, 2005, 06:35 PM
1 hit, no bullets.
Avant_Garde
Oct 22nd, 2005, 07:09 PM
1 direct hit and a medal of distinction. taking philosophy really helped :D
FearSonic
Oct 22nd, 2005, 08:15 PM
You have reached the end!
Congratulations! You have made it to the end of this activity.
You took zero direct hits and you bit zero bullets. The average player of this activity to date takes 1.39 hits and bites 1.11 bullets. 285335 people have so far undertaken this activity.
Click the link below for further analysis of your performance and to see if you've won an award.
Congratulations!
You have been awarded the TPM medal of honour! This is our highest award for outstanding service on the intellectual battleground.
The fact that you progressed through this activity neither being hit nor biting a bullet suggests that your beliefs about God are internally consistent and very well thought out.
A direct hit would have occurred had you answered in a way that implied a logical contradiction. You would have bitten bullets had you responded in ways that required that you held views that most people would have found strange, incredible or unpalatable. However, you avoided both these fates - and in doing so qualify for our highest award. A fine achievement!
Awesome, no hits and the TPM medal of honour. I see I'm very logically sound.
stevethewheel
Oct 23rd, 2005, 06:17 PM
Hmm. I took a hit for this one, but somehow I can't wade through the explanation.
What is the inconsistency here? I had just answered that the rapist was justified in believing he was carrying out God's will (look, I don't think God told him to do that, but he thought so, so don't bash on me for that please)
You've just bitten a bullet!
You are consistent in applying the principle that it is justifiable to base one's beliefs about the external world on a firm, inner conviction, regardless of the external evidence, or lack of it, for the truth or falsity this conviction. The problem is that it seems you have to accept that people might be justified in their belief that terrible things are right. You have agreed that the rapist is justified in believing that he carries out the will of God, and in an earlier answer you indicated that you think that God defines what is good and what is evil. Therefore, to be consistent, you must think the rapist is justified in believing that he acts morally when he acts on his inner conviction. Hence, you bite the bullet and justify the rapist.
EDIT - OK i figured it out. I bit a bullet. I didn't take a bullet. That means I had to agree to something distasteful in order to be consistent, which is true.
cjpark
Oct 23rd, 2005, 06:36 PM
no hits, no bullets :) Interesting quiz.
bokep
Oct 23rd, 2005, 06:50 PM
excellent quiz, brought up some points i never considered
cheeseshredder
Oct 23rd, 2005, 07:23 PM
You suffered zero direct hits and bit 1 bullet.
You have been awarded the TPM medal of distinction! This is our second highest award for outstanding service on the intellectual battleground.
"Bitten Bullet 1
You answered "False" to Questions 10 and "True" to Question 14.
These answers generated the following response:
You've just bitten a bullet! You say that if there are no compelling arguments or evidence that show that God does not exist, then atheism is a matter of faith, not rationality. Therefore, it seems that you do not think that the mere absence of evidence for the existence of God is enough to justify believing that she does not exist. This view is also suggested by your earlier claim that it is not rational to believe that the Loch Ness monster does not exist even if, despite years of trying, no evidence has been presented to suggest that it does exist.
There is no logical inconsistency in your answers. But by denying that the absence of evidence, even where it has been sought, is enough to justify belief in the non-existence of things, you are required to countenance possibilities that most people would find bizarre. For example, do you really want to claim that it is not rationally justified to believe that intelligent aliens do not live on Mars?"
manixc
Oct 23rd, 2005, 07:42 PM
I got 2 direct hits
deep
Oct 23rd, 2005, 07:52 PM
Ridiculously easy. It doesn't take a philosophy background to ace this quiz...just some common sense, as per usual. I got the "Medal of Honour", which will henceforth be renamed the "Medal of Not Embarassing Thyself"
(Mind you, I have taken some philosophy courses....I just don't recall any questions that required me to think back to any of them. It's just logic, applied to godhood)
Montague
Nov 5th, 2005, 05:57 PM
no hits, no bullets :) Interesting quiz.
same with me:
http://www.philosophersnet.com/cgi-bin/god_game2.cgi?q1=yes&q2=no&q3=no&q4=yes&q5=no&q6=yes&q7=no&q8=no&q9=yes&q10=yes&q11=no&q12=no&q13=no&q14=no&q15=no&q16=no&q17=no&bulletcount=0&hitcount=0&hit7=&bullet7=&hit9a=&hit9b=&bullet11=&hit11=&hit12a=&hit12b=&bullet12=&hit13a=&hit13b=&bullet13=&hit14=&bullet14=&hit15a=&hit15b=&bullet15a=&bullet15b=&bullet16=&hit16a=&hit17a=&hit17b=&hit17c=&hit17d=&miss=&newtotal=287240&newhits=398590&newbullets=319536&newh7=5449&newb7=16079&newh9a=2198&newh9b=3469&newh11=14002&newb11=16077&newh12a=16020&newh12b=12051&newb12=22359&newh13a=13746&newh13b=12102&newb13=32613&newh14=96380&newb14=65593&newh15a=29455&newh15b=66650&newb15a=23557&newb15b=24013&newb16=119350&newh16a=28738&newh17a=12631&newh17b=62159&newh17c=15400&newh17d=7971&newmiss=53881&avhonour=7.64&avdistinction=45.81&avservice=38.42&avnone=8.18&avhits=1.39&avbullets=1.11
CanadaBoy
Nov 5th, 2005, 06:01 PM
Got all teh way up to 14 without getting hit :)
guest10586
Nov 5th, 2005, 07:40 PM
Bit 1 bullet...dunno how people who believe in god can do this quiz...
curtis
Nov 5th, 2005, 08:24 PM
Did this, no damage.
Decided to try as if I believed in God, and I find that this is a very bias quiz. It makes many assumption and doesn't not accurately reflect reality.
It's just a fun quiz after all I guess.
(I don't know if there's a God or not, I don't care if there is, and I don't care if there isn't.)
Check out this link http://www.philosophersnet.com/games/god.htm
click the link at the bottom to start.
It's a critical thinking quiz which tests the concept behind your ideology. pretty cool.
I took three direct hits and one bullet the first time.
How did you do?
xIcewind
Nov 5th, 2005, 08:39 PM
The only bullet I bit was an incorrect assumption by the machine - it didn't consider a third circumstance.
::Mutter::
Mr._Hankey
Nov 5th, 2005, 08:45 PM
Got 2 hits, bit 1 bullet
and I'm in the minority who does believe in god.
Txiasaeia
Nov 5th, 2005, 08:56 PM
Bit 1 bullet...dunno how people who believe in god can do this quiz...
Bit two bullets, no direct hits. The key is being consistent, regardless of whether you believe in God or not.
Casper
Nov 5th, 2005, 09:30 PM
bit one bullet...on evolution.
Medal of distinction.
fun quiz. Oh, and snapcracklepop, I believe in God.
divx
Nov 8th, 2005, 04:21 PM
oh lol i got owned, 3 direct hits and bite 2 bullets, I sometimes believe in something that doesn't exist and sometimes don't believe in it. sigh.
felixdd
Nov 8th, 2005, 04:51 PM
You've just bitten a bullet! You say that if there are no compelling arguments or evidence that show that God does not exist, then atheism is a matter of faith, not rationality. Therefore, it seems that you do not think that the mere absence of evidence for the existence of God is enough to justify believing that she does not exist. This view is also suggested by your earlier claim that it is not rational to believe that the Loch Ness monster does not exist even if, despite years of trying, no evidence has been presented to suggest that it does exist.
There is no logical inconsistency in your answers. But by denying that the absence of evidence, even where it has been sought, is enough to justify belief in the non-existence of things, you are required to countenance possibilities that most people would find bizarre. For example, do you really want to claim that it is not rationally justified to believe that intelligent aliens do not live on Mars?"
I got the same comment, as well as two bullet-biting comments. The thing is that at a few points where I know which choice the test "wants" -- it would've been ridiculously easy to go through with no hits or biting at all.
That and at one point I confused "justified" with "logically justified" -- I found that a bit annoying.
In the end, it's all about semantics.
ragin_pyro
Nov 8th, 2005, 05:00 PM
Battleground Analysis
Congratulations!
You have been awarded the TPM medal of honour! This is our highest award for outstanding service on the intellectual battleground.
The fact that you progressed through this activity neither being hit nor biting a bullet suggests that your beliefs about God are internally consistent and very well thought out.
A direct hit would have occurred had you answered in a way that implied a logical contradiction. You would have bitten bullets had you responded in ways that required that you held views that most people would have found strange, incredible or unpalatable. However, you avoided both these fates - and in doing so qualify for our highest award. A fine achievement!
yjxiao
Nov 10th, 2005, 04:19 PM
errm
this test is biassed.
Question 8(Evolutionary theory maybe false in some matters of detail, but it is essentially true.)
If you believe that evolution is TRUE(not mostly, but unequivacaly, ie everything is true about it.), then you must answer false.
However if you do that, it then assumes that you think evolution is false. so that the next question
"It is justifiable to base one's beliefs about the external world on a firm, inner conviction, regardless of the external evidence, or lack of it, for the truth or falsity of these convictions."
when you would answer false for that, as you would take facts over 'inner conviction'. Then you contradict yourself,("But in the previous question you rejected evolutionary theory when the vast majority of scientists think both that the evidence points to its truth and that there is no evidence which falsifies it.") when actually you havn't because you believe wholely in evolution but the test doesn't give you that choice because of how the evolution question was worded.
but, let's say you went along, and selected false for evo, and then false for 'inner conviction'. You run into problems again at question 13("It is foolish to believe in God without certain, irrevocable proof that God exists") one would answer true, however, the questions make u think that you contradict yourself ("It is foolish to believe in God without certain, irrevocable proof that God exists."). But you havn't, this is all due to the fact that the evolution question is worded unfairly.
I do not think that this test is fair as it essentialy tries to word the questions in a way to make someone who does not believe in god think that they are contradicting themselves.
sw1ft
Nov 10th, 2005, 04:33 PM
You took 2 direct hits and you have bitten 2 bullets.
I think one of the hits was because it phrased God as a She, so I was just confused lol :D