Rogers Cable Splitter Protection Removal

[Avenger]

I had Rogers come in and install digital cable, and they are using a standard splitter. They have blocked one of the two outputs with a 3 inch metal tube in order to block the second output.

I cannot unscrew this, and I know I can theoretically just run a splitter from this splitter, but rather than running a daisy chain splitter setup, is there an easy way to remove it? Is there an official name for that barrel-like blocker?

[Happy13178]

if it's one I'm thinking of, you should be able to remove it without any problems....just takes a little elbow grease. If not, then split the splitter, and use a cable amplifier on it. Just make sure you don't use the amp for any cables running into a modem.

[plymouthhater]

It's called a tap lock and this is the tool necessary to remove it:

http://www.specialized.net/ecommerce/shop/layout.asp?product%5Fid=155X373

[Avenger]

Where can I get this badboy, any stores? I was hoping for a manual way, and thanks for the info!

[Happy13178]

had one of those on an old line, just a little manipulation with a flathead screwdriver and a pair of pliers got it off.

[spm24]

any way u can post a picture of the metal tube from the sides as well as top . that might help

[JAC]

It's called a tap lock and this is the tool necessary to remove it:

http://www.specialized.net/ecommerce/shop/layout.asp?product%5Fid=155X373

Or a modified fork.

[aznspddmn]

you can buy that tool on ebay, type in cable security.

[weedb0y]

interestin..

[insanity]

You wanna hear something funny ... (1 year ago) well my friend was out by the side of his house trying to get this filter off the cable line that was coming in. The filter is for people that don't want to subscribe to cable and only want hi-speed internet. He was at it for about 5 min and almost had it done, and out of the blue a Rogers truck pulls up in front of his house. The guy came out and asked my friend what the heck he was doing. So my friend made up this lame excuse that he was wondering what the heck that 'silver device' was for and he thought someone else put it on ('other than Rogers') so he was trying to take it off. To make a long story short, the Rogers guy said the filter should not have been put on the side of the house where the cable was coming in, rather it should have been put underground. So the Rogers guy took it off and put it underground, now my friend can't take it off!

[crypto]

Well that sucks .. moral of the story is .. if you're gonna tamper with your cable- don't get caught.


You wanna hear something funny ... (1 year ago) well my friend was out by the side of his house trying to get this filter off the cable line that was coming in. The filter is for people that don't want to subscribe to cable and only want hi-speed internet. He was at it for about 5 min and almost had it done, and out of the blue a Rogers truck pulls up in front of his house. The guy came out and asked my friend what the heck he was doing. So my friend made up this lame excuse that he was wondering what the heck that 'silver device' was for and he thought someone else put it on ('other than Rogers') so he was trying to take it off. To make a long story short, the Rogers guy said the filter should not have been put on the side of the house where the cable was coming in, rather it should have been put underground. So the Rogers guy took it off and put it underground, now my friend can't take it off!

[Shaner]

Just buy a new splitter from Canadian Tire and hook up the new splitter.

[computer01]

...He was at it for about 5 min and almost had it done, and out of the blue a Rogers truck pulls up in front of his house. The guy came out and asked my friend what the heck he was doing....

Somebody narked on your friend.

The problem with average Joe 6-pack playing tech-for-a-minute in the cable box is they often do damage to the equipment in there. They don't know enough to use the proper tools, to use the proper grommets, and not do damage to things. 1 person hacking away at a cable line can affect a good portion of a neighbourhood.

Man... the CATV tools have gotten cheap! I got mine for free because I worked in telco and needed it, but it was worth over $100 when I got it. Even without the tool though, anyone with even a slight interest in engineering can figure out several ways to take a CATV shield off without the tool.

[dgmorr]

I just cut tabs off the box that holds it closed, which is on the side of my house. They've replaced it 2 times on me, did the same thing each time. *Oops, my motorcycle fell on it*

Where can I get that tap lock tool in store?

[me!]

yes, those tools are only available to the trade industry and not to regular consumers. Fortunately I have one, but have not removed the filters from my box. I have opened up my box before. Filters are marked with different colours. red blue and green, depending on what tier level you are suscribing to.

a simple removal of the filter and hooking the main line directly to the internal box splitter will get u unfiltered all tier levels.

but DON'T do this with digital cable. they can monitor your level of service through your digital box. Removing the filter ONLY works with analog cable service.

also, do not modify your service within 3 months of getting or changing your service. the cable co. does random audits of their technicians to ensure quality control. another technician comes out and checks to make sure the subcontractor did his work properly.

The cable company can still theoretically monitor your service off-site, but that takes more resources from them. They can ping your service and monitor the signal coming back. But they won't do that unless they have a reason to do that. So if you alter your service and stay under the radar for a min of 3 months, you' re home free.

Of course, I do not endorse any illegal activities or condone any type of signal theft. That is against the law. I am only pointing out observations and not giving out instructions. <----- my disclaimer

[Shaf]

I may have one of these tools at home. PM me if you'd to buy it.

[Avenger]

I might buy it, what are you asking? Also, I have Rogers Digital Cable, so you are saying they will be able to tell if I replace the splitter and let someone else on? Currently they have 2 outputs, but they can see if I make it more?

[me!]

digital cable only works based on one box per tv. if you want to split, then then other lines will be analog

[Anessa]

I have rogers extreme hi speed internet but I was wondering if there's any way to get free analog cable? I had it before my idiot neighbours snowboarded into the cable box and now I only get global to cbc and then the score at channel 72. PM me with mods you 've done before

[me!]

I have rogers extreme hi speed internet but I was wondering if there's any way to get free analog cable? I had it before my idiot neighbours snowboarded into the cable box and now I only get global to cbc and then the score at channel 72. PM me with mods you 've done before
Shaw will not let you have a naked internet anymore.

before you could go ahead and just ask for internet, but now Shaw asks that you at least suscribe to basic in order to get internet.

Telus is the same with ADSL

[Anessa]

I'm with rogers and I have naked internet. I prefer my satellite to basic cable but if I could get basic cable for not paying to keep around during bad weather...I'd love it

[cipher]

Shaw will not let you have a naked internet anymore.

before you could go ahead and just ask for internet, but now Shaw asks that you at least suscribe to basic in order to get internet.

Telus is the same with ADSL

I thought it was illegal to package the two service together. Speaking of legality...isn't it illegal to remove the anti-tap or filter to get free cable? On while we're on legality...won't this thread get locked?

[jerryhung]

I have rogers extreme hi speed internet but I was wondering if there's any way to get free analog cable? I had it before my idiot neighbours snowboarded into the cable box and now I only get global to cbc and then the score at channel 72. PM me with mods you 've done before

Isn't this illegal?
How is it different than asking how can I get free satellite DirectTV?

I would love to know too, but my ethics won't let me

[dgmorr]

I have rogers extreme hi speed internet but I was wondering if there's any way to get free analog cable? I had it before my idiot neighbours snowboarded into the cable box and now I only get global to cbc and then the score at channel 72. PM me with mods you 've done before


When you back your car into the cable box and the filter falls off, you will get the cable tv for free.

[me!]

I thought it was illegal to package the two service together. Speaking of legality...isn't it illegal to remove the anti-tap or filter to get free cable? On while we're on legality...won't this thread get locked?
yes it is illegal to open the box.

as for packaging, the legality of that has been argued and i don't know where it stands right now.

as for Telus phone and ADSL, Telus screwed me! over since I was on Sprint/Rogers and said that it is not available in my local area. (yeah right, sure!) :mad:

[Avenger]

I am already paying for the digital cable, I just need it for my upstairs room as well as the other rooms, and was hoping to get around buying another splitter by removing the tap. Can they detect how many tvs are using the digital signal (rogers)? How many am I supposed to be allowed? Why is it illegal if I am paying for it already?

EDIT: Just as a FYI, the splitter with the tap is hanging in a wiring closet right beside my breaker box, easily accessible, so no, I am not breaking into any box.

[me!]

I am already paying for the digital cable, I just need it for my upstairs room as well as the other rooms, and was hoping to get around buying another splitter by removing the tap. Can they detect how many tvs are using the digital signal (rogers)? How many am I supposed to be allowed? Why is it illegal if I am paying for it already?

EDIT: Just as a FYI, the splitter with the tap is hanging in a wiring closet right beside my breaker box, easily accessible, so no, I am not breaking into any box.
to watch digital cable requires a box for each tv, unless you want to wathc the same channel on all tv's at the same time.

you pay for digital cable for service to each tv, not for the service in general to your home. (like telephone)

[weedb0y]

The cable company can still theoretically monitor your service off-site, but that takes more resources from them. They can ping your service and monitor the signal coming back. But they won't do that unless they have a reason to do that. So if you alter your service and stay under the radar for a min of 3 months, you' re home free.

Of course, I do not endorse any illegal activities or condone any type of signal theft. That is against the law. I am only pointing out observations and not giving out instructions. <----- my disclaimer

Isn't analog one-way?

[Avenger]

Hmm, I never knew it worked like that. So can they actually tell if I use a splitter to get more lines to my other tvs?

[me!]

Isn't analog one-way?
not sure of your question but the loss of signal strength from pinging you can determine how many times your service is split. But then as mentioned before, that takes a bit of sleuthing if they don't know who to look for.

If you are targeted for an audit, then that would be very easy.

[Shaner]

Hmm, I never knew it worked like that. So can they actually tell if I use a splitter to get more lines to my other tvs?

I don't know, but they don't care if you split the signal and run it to other TV's. If you split your digital cable and send the signal into another room, you won't get digital cable in that room unless you have the box in that room as well. You'll bet the basic analog cable that your cable service provides. You need another box in order to get digital cable.

I have Cogeco digital cable and the guy who came to install it asked if I wanted it split into other rooms. He said it wouldn't be digital unless I got another box, but he did say he would split it for me while he was there installing it. I said no at the time and later did it myself.

They can't tell if you split the signal and send it to other TV's, they have no idea, especially because it's an analog signal, that's it.

[AudiDude]

Lets start from the beginning.
The tap lock tool mentioned WILL NOT undo the later versions of a tap lock and will break if the tap locks that it can undo are on very tight.

If you have ANY DIGITAL DEVICE installed, the levels of all digital devices are logged after installs and monitored automatically afterwards. If you move any digital device and the signal drops, they will know as the low levels trip a montoring alarm. Soon they will dispatch a technician to check the problem without you calling.

It is illegal for you to split the cable more times than you are paying for as Rogers or anybody like them must report how many outlets they have to their content providers and pay them accordingly.

Onsite Rogers can see splitters and amplifiers and televisions with hand held test tools.

When the technician installs digital devices (properly) the levels on each device are specific. When you split the lines going to the device or move the device from it's original location the device may not perform properly because the signal level is too low, or too high.

When you use inferior splitters and amps and have unterminated outlets (as most of you do) you are destroying signal quality which results in snowy pictures (analog TV), tiling and freezing pictures (digital TV) and slow speeds (internet). This noise then travels back to the tap and is joined by all the noise from your neighbours ( who are doing what you are doing ) and creates problems for everyone else.

When you do use cheap splitters and crappy inferior cables with twist on ends to split your illegal cable, your house is leaking RF. This results in interference on radio for air traffic control, so Rogers is monitored and informed when the leakage is bad.

Rogers maintenance trucks are equipped with leakage detectors and as they drive through the neighbourhoods doing repairs, are transmitting leakage levels and location via GPS. Anybody with lots of incorrectly installed outlets and cheap splitters house lights up like a christmas tree.

You can also detect leakage with a dipole antenna connected to a meter from a moving van, EASILY.No sleuthing required.

Rogers would probably rather have you with many properly installed illegal outlets, but instead the illegal ones cause the most grief and truck rolls.

Your digital devices are monitored via MIBs not pings. So the ping times will remain the same, but those of you who know how to access your modem's web page or set your digital box into the mode where it displays signal level will have an excellent idea of what Rogers can see.

All monitoring is automatic and done all the time, especially since they do phone.

[IceMan77]

AudiDude, that's an awesome post.

[Avenger]

Audidude, thanks for the post. I suppose I should just call them and tell them to take off the one tap so I can connect another tv.

[weedb0y]

not sure of your question but the loss of signal strength from pinging you can determine how many times your service is split. But then as mentioned before, that takes a bit of sleuthing if they don't know who to look for.

If you are targeted for an audit, then that would be very easy.

I meant if people are using analog only TV and have no Rogers digital device. Just being a devil's advocate and just curious.

[me!]

I meant if people are using analog only TV and have no Rogers digital device. Just being a devil's advocate and just curious.
i think audidude summed it up quite nicely.

but hst, analog cable can be split, but the loss of signal can be measured by technicians. The main cause of excess loss is poor splitters. unless they have a reason to check up on you, and you don't use crappy splitters, you should be virtually undetected by the cablecos.

[weedb0y]

Most of the info is related to them measuring the quality feedback from 'digital' devices though. If there isn't a Rogers cable modem nor a digital box, I don't think they could measure if your connection is running with no filter or splitter.

I remember, I had to help a buddy of mine fix his cable wiring for expressVu and he basically used Roger's own wiring to send his satellite signal to his bedroom from the receiver (UHF mode) in the main living room.

[mistacal]

this is a little off topic.....but i just got the rogers digital cable. We have three tv's. I know the two other TV's won't get the other channels, but I'm lookin for a splitter that is powerful enough to received the digital image (some channels are pixalated ie.not clear,) so is the splitter the problem?? if there is any splitter i can buy that can fix this problem?

Thanks.

[plymouthhater]

Since Rogers did NOT remove the splitter in the original poster's installation and instead put a tap lock on one outlet of the splitter, the signal loss is already taken into account as the splitter already installed on the line & causes the same amount of loss whether there is a cable & TV connected to it or NOT.

I agree that there would be additional loss if a NEW splitter was placed on the drop comming into the house.

On most splitters - 2 way are labelled with -3db at each tap
3 way show -7db at two of the taps & -3 db at one,

[Avenger]

Since Rogers did NOT remove the splitter in the original poster's installation and instead put a tap lock on one outlet of the splitter, the signal loss is already taken into account as the splitter already installed on the line & causes the same amount of loss whether there is a cable & TV connected to it or NOT.

I agree that there would be additional loss if a NEW splitter was placed on the drop comming into the house.

On most splitters - 2 way are labelled with -3db at each tap
3 way show -7db at two of the taps & -3 db at one,
3.5 per terminal actually :) and one is 7

[AudiDude]

If the device on the second leg of the two way splitter is actually a tap lock, the technician was looking to dump 3.5 dB of signal before the digital box and doesn't have a 3.5 dB pad. If the signal is too high, the DSTB will tile/freeze the same as if the signal was too low. If the signal was OK and he put the splitter on to join two wires, he should be shot.

If the device on the second leg of the two way splitter is a filter, he is trying to limit the channels received on that leg. If it is a filter, it would be the diameter of a hot dog and would be about 7 cm long and have colour bands unless it is blocking all channels, then it would be a silver only filter.

If you do decide to monkey with the device, please do everything properly and don't make noise. Rogers will come looking for the source and end up knocking on your door...

[arb]

I recently cancel my Rogers Cable Televison but i still got Rogers internet. My i am college student with very low income and i heard alot of people get cable somehow without actually getting the service. I have a three way splitter, which was for cable and phone before. I no longer have cable and wondering if i can get it back some how..

Thanks

[Div]

Most likely not. The filters are usually placed at the tap (1 per ~10 houses) and not at your cable drop.

[nano]

Most likely not. The filters are usually placed at the tap (1 per ~10 houses) and not at your cable drop.
on the rogers network there is NO such thing as a ten connection tap the most is 4.

[corrupt123]

Most likely not. The filters are usually placed at the tap (1 per ~10 houses) and not at your cable drop.

I can see the filter on my cable... silver, about the size of my index finger with a red band on it, I think it may have a white band on it too.

I've got basic cable and highspeed internet. If i manage to rip the filter out, will they be able to tell? How difficult is it to take out the filter? It's in such a location that I'd be VERY concieled from anyone seeing, even the trucks would have to pull into an alley in order to check, and the angle would be really tough to make it out anyways.

Or would I be better off calling rogers constantly and complaining that my channels are fuzzy? (28 and a couple others) We did this before at our old house and the guy who came ot fix it just pulled out the filter. (I wasnt even expecting this)

[Likestuff4free]

Shaw will not let you have a naked internet anymore.

before you could go ahead and just ask for internet, but now Shaw asks that you at least suscribe to basic in order to get internet.

Telus is the same with ADSL


I know people who have Telus ADSL and no phone, and shaw with no cable, both have subscribed since march

[dragon173]

that filter is there to block channels 28 and upwards to 70 something. removing it will give you all channels

I can see the filter on my cable... silver, about the size of my index finger with a red band on it, I think it may have a white band on it too.

I've got basic cable and highspeed internet. If i manage to rip the filter out, will they be able to tell? How difficult is it to take out the filter? It's in such a location that I'd be VERY concieled from anyone seeing, even the trucks would have to pull into an alley in order to check, and the angle would be really tough to make it out anyways.

Or would I be better off calling rogers constantly and complaining that my channels are fuzzy? (28 and a couple others) We did this before at our old house and the guy who came ot fix it just pulled out the filter. (I wasnt even expecting this)

[ZenOps]

Shaw will ask internet users to subscribe to basic cable TV but its not necessary.

The reason Shaw wants you to be on basic TV is that in order for them to pump internet to you without degrading the singals, they pretty well have to give you channels 2-13 (Channel 13 and up filter) for free anyways. If you are unlucky enough to have a channel 2 filter (filters all TV channels) all you have to do is complain that you internet is bad, and they will pretty well have to put the channel 13 filter in.

With basic cable they usually put a channel 22 filter in.

I will be switching onto 3web cable internet off of Shaws system later this year, and will be curious to see if I actually get channels 2-13 or more.

[express.items]

I had Rogers come in and install digital cable, and they are using a standard splitter.

Take off their splitter and put your own?

[Paolo]

leave the splitter/filter there, its there for a reason. your signal strength is probaly too high, so the splitter is there to decrease the signal strength, and the g-trap is installed onthe other end of the splitter to prevent you from connecting a tv set and watching analog cable for free.

[gmark2000]

that filter is there to block channels 28 and upwards to 70 something. removing it will give you all channels
I've got a couple of these filters. I was gonna throw them into Ted Rogers backyard in Forest Hill.

[EH100501AC]

You wanna hear something funny ... (1 year ago) well my friend was out by the side of his house trying to get this filter off the cable line that was coming in. The filter is for people that don't want to subscribe to cable and only want hi-speed internet. He was at it for about 5 min and almost had it done, and out of the blue a Rogers truck pulls up in front of his house. The guy came out and asked my friend what the heck he was doing. So my friend made up this lame excuse that he was wondering what the heck that 'silver device' was for and he thought someone else put it on ('other than Rogers') so he was trying to take it off. To make a long story short, the Rogers guy said the filter should not have been put on the side of the house where the cable was coming in, rather it should have been put underground. So the Rogers guy took it off and put it underground, now my friend can't take it off!

He should've just knocked that Rogers guy out and put him underground :)
:twisted:

[consumerPI]

Updates?

[Paolo]

I've got a couple of these filters. I was gonna throw them into Ted Rogers backyard in Forest Hill.
I should go to Ted's house and pick them up and throw them in your backyard, or better yet, install them on your cable line when your not home even though your paying for vip cable..

[Happy13178]

I should go to Ted's house and pick them up and throw them in your backyard, or better yet, install them on your cable line when your not home even though your paying for vip cable..

The Rogers secret police strikes again!

[bmwmini]

Lets start from the beginning.
The tap lock tool mentioned WILL NOT undo the later versions of a tap lock and will break if the tap locks that it can undo are on very tight.

If you have ANY DIGITAL DEVICE installed, the levels of all digital devices are logged after installs and monitored automatically afterwards. If you move any digital device and the signal drops, they will know as the low levels trip a montoring alarm. Soon they will dispatch a technician to check the problem without you calling.

It is illegal for you to split the cable more times than you are paying for as Rogers or anybody like them must report how many outlets they have to their content providers and pay them accordingly.

Onsite Rogers can see splitters and amplifiers and televisions with hand held test tools.

When the technician installs digital devices (properly) the levels on each device are specific. When you split the lines going to the device or move the device from it's original location the device may not perform properly because the signal level is too low, or too high.

When you use inferior splitters and amps and have unterminated outlets (as most of you do) you are destroying signal quality which results in snowy pictures (analog TV), tiling and freezing pictures (digital TV) and slow speeds (internet). This noise then travels back to the tap and is joined by all the noise from your neighbours ( who are doing what you are doing ) and creates problems for everyone else.

When you do use cheap splitters and crappy inferior cables with twist on ends to split your illegal cable, your house is leaking RF. This results in interference on radio for air traffic control, so Rogers is monitored and informed when the leakage is bad.

Rogers maintenance trucks are equipped with leakage detectors and as they drive through the neighbourhoods doing repairs, are transmitting leakage levels and location via GPS. Anybody with lots of incorrectly installed outlets and cheap splitters house lights up like a christmas tree.

You can also detect leakage with a dipole antenna connected to a meter from a moving van, EASILY.No sleuthing required.

Rogers would probably rather have you with many properly installed illegal outlets, but instead the illegal ones cause the most grief and truck rolls.

Your digital devices are monitored via MIBs not pings. So the ping times will remain the same, but those of you who know how to access your modem's web page or set your digital box into the mode where it displays signal level will have an excellent idea of what Rogers can see.

All monitoring is automatic and done all the time, especially since they do phone.


This sounds like an article that was floating around..

[Paolo]

The Rogers secret police strikes again!

Your house too. maybe I should put some playboy channel purchase on your bill. that should make you happy.

[weedb0y]

He should've just knocked that Rogers guy out and put him underground :)
:twisted:


They don't get paid extra to do that. I doubt they even did that.

[Happy13178]

Your house too. maybe I should put some playboy channel purchase on your bill. that should make you happy.

So you're threatening to modify our bills? :cheesygri Is that official?

[module]

If your interested in purchasing it, theyrs a wholesalers consumer store that sells to the public and they do sell that filter screwdriver type.

When going on the 401 - go west towards Allen Rd, go North towards sheppard. Make a left on Sheppard and keep heading west. Turn right on ( i forgot the name), but at the California Sandwiches plaza you make a right. Keep going down and turn right on champlaign.

Hope that helps.

[bottomfeeder]

If your interested in purchasing it, theyrs a wholesalers consumer store that sells to the public and they do sell that filter screwdriver type.

When going on the 401 - go west towards Allen Rd, go North towards sheppard. Make a left on Sheppard and keep heading west. Turn right on ( i forgot the name), but at the California Sandwiches plaza you make a right. Keep going down and turn right on champlaign.

Hope that helps.

Is this the area?
http://maps.google.ca/?ie=UTF8&ll=43.763439,-79.469175&spn=0.022594,0.039611&om=1

Champagne is quite a long street - any further directions to help find the place?

[module]

Called Ariza or Incredible!

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/2462/rotfs1.jpg

[riskit]

Lets start from the beginning.
The tap lock tool mentioned WILL NOT undo the later versions of a tap lock and will break if the tap locks that it can undo are on very tight.

If you have ANY DIGITAL DEVICE installed, the levels of all digital devices are logged after installs and monitored automatically afterwards. If you move any digital device and the signal drops, they will know as the low levels trip a montoring alarm. Soon they will dispatch a technician to check the problem without you calling.

It is illegal for you to split the cable more times than you are paying for as Rogers or anybody like them must report how many outlets they have to their content providers and pay them accordingly.

Onsite Rogers can see splitters and amplifiers and televisions with hand held test tools.

When the technician installs digital devices (properly) the levels on each device are specific. When you split the lines going to the device or move the device from it's original location the device may not perform properly because the signal level is too low, or too high.

When you use inferior splitters and amps and have unterminated outlets (as most of you do) you are destroying signal quality which results in snowy pictures (analog TV), tiling and freezing pictures (digital TV) and slow speeds (internet). This noise then travels back to the tap and is joined by all the noise from your neighbours ( who are doing what you are doing ) and creates problems for everyone else.

When you do use cheap splitters and crappy inferior cables with twist on ends to split your illegal cable, your house is leaking RF. This results in interference on radio for air traffic control, so Rogers is monitored and informed when the leakage is bad.

Rogers maintenance trucks are equipped with leakage detectors and as they drive through the neighbourhoods doing repairs, are transmitting leakage levels and location via GPS. Anybody with lots of incorrectly installed outlets and cheap splitters house lights up like a christmas tree.

You can also detect leakage with a dipole antenna connected to a meter from a moving van, EASILY.No sleuthing required.

Rogers would probably rather have you with many properly installed illegal outlets, but instead the illegal ones cause the most grief and truck rolls.

Your digital devices are monitored via MIBs not pings. So the ping times will remain the same, but those of you who know how to access your modem's web page or set your digital box into the mode where it displays signal level will have an excellent idea of what Rogers can see.

All monitoring is automatic and done all the time, especially since they do phone.


Videotron in MTL has the same trucks, I see them all the time driving up and down the street with thier antenna sticking out, I stop one of the truck once and the drive gave me a little tech tour, It seems that all the crap we buy from Radio Shack, Canadian Tire etc are designed to leak RF so it can be pick-up by the Tele-comp.

[bottomfeeder]

Could it be:

Ariza Technology
205 champagne drive unit 3
Toronto Ontario Canada
M3J 2C6, Canada
416-661-2445


The "Gilbert Tool" is $30 at their store

Update - I found cheaper in Mississauga on Matheson between Ambler and Dixie Road - on north side. There is Satellite place and then electronics place just west of it. Going for $20 there. Best price so far.

http://maps.google.ca/?ie=UTF8&ll=43.641619,-79.631996&spn=0.01132,0.019805&t=h&om=1