Official thread - Apprentice Season 4 (Thursdays, 9pm)

[felix]

Reminder .. season premiere Thurs. Sept 22 @ 9pm

Official websites :
http://apprentice.tv.yahoo.com/trump/04/index.html
http://www.nbc.com/nbc/The_Apprentice/

http://www.realitytvworld.com/images/heads/storyleads/apprentice4cast_story.jpg

[Wildfire]

Some are like 4 minutes long, so they could be pretty interesting.

Audtion Videos (http://apprentice.tv.yahoo.com/trump/04/exclusivevideo/auditions.html)

P.S. are we gonna have separate threads for each of the Trump and Martha run apprentice shows? lol

[felix]

Yup, almost forgot about Martha! Here's the thread ..
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200608

[djspazz]

Is it just me or some of the tasks they do are kinda stupid? They don't really assess whether these people have talent for business or not. Some are good tasks, but some I really wonder.

[felix]

It's tonight! Don't forget. :cheesygri

[tonychau]

would you think later in the show Trump and Marta would exchange their contestants for cross-reference interview with Trump and Marta?

Or Trump's contestants go to Marta for 'home' marketing project and vice versa?

Tony

[felix]

No, Martha doesn't have the experience yet. Maybe a few seasons later. :lol:

[thelefteyeguy]

can we start demanding for a crossover...or is that too early :lol:

[Jabb]

I missed the first 20 minutes, can someone gimmie a summary?

[B40]

Men vs. Women again eh...Rebecca is a cutie

That Hispanic chick is so fired..

[evilserge]

haha,
wut a dumb broad.
she just dug herself in a hole and kept digging.
she ended up in china once she made the remark about how she couldnt work with women. GG!

[ZeeTX]

Already Posted.. :!: - http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=199733

Please use the search feature of this forum before making "OFFICIAL THREADS".
Reminder .. season premiere Thurs. Sept 22 @ 9pm

Official websites :
http://apprentice.tv.yahoo.com/trump/04/index.html
http://www.nbc.com/nbc/The_Apprentice/

http://www.realitytvworld.com/images/heads/storyleads/apprentice4cast_story.jpg

[B40]

Already Posted.. :!: - http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=199733

Please use the search feature of this forum before making "OFFICIAL THREADS".

Haha funny...

I posted before all you guys

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2092692

[WiZZLa]

Both of the Apprentice premieres were terrible this season. The rest of the eps better improve.

[felix]

Already Posted.. :!: - http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=199733

Please use the search feature of this forum before making "OFFICIAL THREADS".
I did search prior to posting. There was no official thread posted. You changed the title. Your threads were just "new apprentice cast" and racial remarks. Think i'm that dumb. Reported.

[mallik]

Which one's the hot one that Trump said is one of the most beautiful women he's ever seen?

[B40]

I did search prior to posting. There was no official thread posted. You changed the title. Your threads were just "new apprentice cast" and racial remarks. Think i'm that dumb. Reported.

lol...funny this means so much to you, to have the "Official thread"

IMO, only Ryan or Derek should be allowed to create "Official" RFD threads...lol what a joke

[felix]

^ No, but what ticks me off is when people change theirs posts around to make others look like an idiot.

[Yaowsers]

Trump says this season is better than season 1.

[tonychau]

maybe Trump has improves his combover from Season 1, that's why this season is Hotter! :D

Trump says this season is better than season 1.

[felix]

Which one's the hot one that Trump said is one of the most beautiful women he's ever seen?
I don't think any of them are hot. The girl from last season or Katrina (was that her name?) from season 1 was probably the best looking so far. :|

[ZeeTX]

I don't think any of them are hot. The girl from last season or Katrina (was that her name?) from season 1 was probably the best looking so far. :|
Poor choice.. :|

[felix]

And who would you have chosen. I don't remember much of the girls from second season .. maybe Jen. C if that's the right season (girl with the pony tail).

[Bordello]

I like Amy from the first season, and that annoying girl from the second season was pretty hot too (the one that got fired because she was a smart ass in the boardroom).

[Wildfire]

And who would you have chosen. I don't remember much of the girls from second season .. maybe Jen. C if that's the right season (girl with the pony tail).
I thought Katrina (Season 1) was by far the hottest chick on the show so far as well.

I'm gonna take a stab right now, based solely on first impressions and the first episode and make my choice for the final two, and the eventual winner.

The final two will be IMO :

Randall ..............Josh
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/9832/picrandal6ce.jpg http://img331.imageshack.us/img331/3482/picjosh2ow.jpg

and eventual winner :

Randall
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/9832/picrandal6ce.jpg

First I think Josh will make the final two just because he seems very intelligent, he made wise choices on the first task and was constantly ripping on the Markus guy, which was funny. He's also is a self-made millionaire with his own company.

http://www.nbc.com/The_Apprentice_4/candidates/bio_josh.shtml

As for the my choice for eventual winner, I really am starting to like Randall, the obvious first reason is :
He holds five academic degrees in engineering, business and technology including a B.S. from Rutgers University, an M.S. from the University of Oxford in England as a Rhodes Scholar, and an M.S., M.B.A. and Ph.D. from MIT.
Which is insane and with that he's got business experience having his own multi-million dollar consulting firm. So he's got a ton of education but also alot of business experience unlike some of the previous contestants who were voted out for only having degrees.
Plus he took the pass of his grandmother so well, and was very professional during the team task. I think he scored big points with Trump for that.

http://www.nbc.com/The_Apprentice_4/candidates/bio_randal.shtml

(Now watch me be totally off :lol: )

Anyone else's early favourites?

[M-e-X-x]

i think carolyn is trying to look less like princess di hehe.. her hair is quite different this time around

that hispanic chick was so annoying.. glad she's gone

[felix]

i think carolyn is trying to look less like princess di hehe..
Maybe because she's getting older! :cheesygri

It's on again in 1 hour ..

[Bordello]

It was no surprise that the guys lost. Their ad stank big time. That 'green with envy' poster is amongst one of the stupidest things I've ever seen. The presentation also sucked. The ad campaign is for the car, not for water. Chris made a big mistake not dragging Mark (the guy in charge of "creativity") into the boardroom with him. That would have helped to deflect some of the attention away from him. As for Markus, he annoys the heck out of me. Donald said it himself, he's not going to last long.

Oh yeah, Caroline looked hot.

[M-e-X-x]

It was no surprise that the guys lost. Their ad stank big time. That 'green with envy' poster is amongst one of the stupidest things I've ever seen. The presentation also sucked. The ad campaign is for the car, not for water. Chris made a big mistake not dragging Mark (the guy in charge of "creativity") into the boardroom with him. That would have helped to deflect some of the attention away from him. As for Markus, he annoys the heck out of me. Donald said it himself, he's not going to last long.

Oh yeah, Caroline looked hot.

lol..

totally though, this task reminds me of season 3 where the guys were overly confident w/ the solstice ad...

[yayawhoo2003]

I think the winner will be Markus simply because everyone hates him, and he has got the deck stacked against him.

[cesme77]

I think the winner will be Markus simply because everyone hates him, and he has got the deck stacked against him.

I don't see that happening. The Donald doesn't like him. There's always clown music playing in the background when Marcus is doing something stupid. I don't think that is the theme song of the next Apprentice.

[The Shirker]

I think the winner will be Markus simply because everyone hates him, and he has got the deck stacked against him.

No way - I've gathered from past seasons that The Donald does not like annoying people. Remember, he's going to actually have to deal with his apprentice on a regular basis. I don't think he'd do that to himself or the rest of his employees :D

[yayawhoo2003]

LOL, clown music..Now that would be a good theme song. :) Along as trump rode around on a litle bicycle with floppy red shoes.

[Rometiklan]

The men's presentation sucked big time. What a disaster. Nothing about that campaign impressed me, and Caroline was right when she said it was boring. Visually, I wasn't much more impressed with the women's presentation either. The rapid fire succession of images seemed kind of jarring, but they salvaged the campaign with some pretty good tag-lines that played on the ego and the emotion.

That had to be one of the best rewards ever. I would have loved to have been on the ice with the Islanders. I'll take that over a dinner with Trump anyday. It would have given me the opportunity to drop the gloves with Yashin and tell him how much I despise him. :D

Chris made an emotional decision in a business situation. He should have exercised his authority as project manager and just fired Markus, instead of just shuffling him off to the sidelines. Marginalizing Markus was a half-assed way of handling a disruptive member of the team. But Chris is right about one thing: Markus is a loose cannon. Someone should muzzle Markus before he blows the next presentation with his stupid comments.

Trump couldn't have been more clear when he was asking Chris whether he was sure he only wanted to bring Markus and not Mark as well. He asked a couple of times, "Do you think you'll be bringing Mark into the BR?" If Chris had brought Mark into the BR, I have no doubt Mark would have gotten the axe, because he really seemed to like Chris. If Mark guaranteed a victory, screws up on the creativity, and he doesn't deliver the goods, doesn't he deserve to get fired?

[B40]

Is Alla really worth $12M? All that from stripping? :|

[Wildfire]

That had to be one of the best rewards ever. I would have loved to have been on the ice with the Islanders. I'll take that over a dinner with Trump anyday. It would have given me the opportunity to drop the gloves with Yashin and tell him how much I despise him. :D

I don't think there were any present day Islanders they were playing with, (I saw Clark Gilles) it was all older former players from the 1980's squad, as far as I saw.
Probably because this was filmed during the Lockout and hence no NHL players were available..


Trump couldn't have been more clear when he was asking Chris whether he was sure he only wanted to bring Markus and not Mark as well. He asked a couple of times, "Do you think you'll be bringing Mark into the BR?" If Chris had brought Mark into the BR, I have no doubt Mark would have gotten the axe, because he really seemed to like Chris. If Mark guaranteed a victory, screws up on the creativity, and he doesn't deliver the goods, doesn't he deserve to get fired?
Markus is annoying, but Chris was a cocky moron. How much more clear does Trump have to make it to him, he kept hinting at him to bring in Mark because he was going to fire him, so what does he do? He brings in Markus, the same guy Trump has already said he feels was at no fault during the task.

What a bonehead. Trump basically tells you who to bring in cause he'll fire him over you, and you don't go and give him what he wants?

[WiZZLa]

Toral had an evil look when she said "passion" during the Lamborghini presentation. http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/cwm/cwm/evil2.gif + :evil: + :mad:

[felix]

bump .. Reminder it's on in an hour ..

[B40]

bump .. Reminder it's on in an hour ..

Thanks. What would I do without you?

[Jabb]

I pick men as teh winner of this task. I loved that jacob guy LOL

jacob: try some, its delicious
george:......i will


earlier:

jacob: technology is from the devil!

[The Shirker]

What a bonehead. Trump basically tells you who to bring in cause he'll fire him over you, and you don't go and give him what he wants?

I was amazed that essentially the same scenario played out again. Except this time the PM was a goodlooking female so she was spared. I have no doubt that if the other girl (who got fired) had been better looking and the PM was ugly, she would have been spared.

Sorry - I'm bad with remembering names.

[warpdrive]

I was amazed that essentially the same scenario played out again. Except this time the PM was a goodlooking female so she was spared.

Not totally true, she was very convincing and very well spoken about why she did it...I think Trump appreciated her conviction and principles, she stood her ground very well. Besides, it was so obvious that the event planning sucked.

[Yaowsers]

The rewards get worse from season to season. I can go to the Salvation Army and help give out toys to kids any time I want. Why do I need to go on the Apprentice to do this?

[RW99]

The rewards get worse from season to season. I can go to the Salvation Army and help give out toys to kids any time I want. Why do I need to go on the Apprentice to do this?

The episode was devoted to Trump the philanthropist :-0

[ferkel]

http://www.nbc.com/The_Apprentice_4/images/recaps/week3_p17.jpg

[Rometiklan]

I saw this episode as a bit of a redemption for Markus, and the start of some real catiness for the women's team. Markus did a pretty good job during this task. He was in his element with all that talking, and TiVO, of which Markus is a self-admitted fanatic. He also diffused a potentially tense situation with some humour when the men confronted Clay about what a jerk he was during that conference when George was in the room..."turd in the pool" HahA! Classic stuff. :D

I like Rebecca. She's got a sass about her that's quite charming...charming enough to sway Trump from firing her ass. I think Caroline was even impressed with Rebecca

It's funny watching the old guys. After you get to a certain age, it seems you can make leacherous comments about young women and get away with it, or it's considered funny. If I made those comments, I would get slapped across the face, or slapped with a lawsuit for sexual harrassment. :D

[felix]

bump ... reminder it's on again tonight!

[Jabb]

toral is too stuck up, glad she got fired

[Wildfire]

toral is too stuck up, glad she got fired
Toral thought it was beneath her to dress up in that outfit, while no one's ever had a problem with that in the past, I'm glad she's gone.
Did you hear her parting thoughts in the taxi?
What a fathead.
Rebecca must have been like "how did I get stuck with this wacko??"...I'm glad she jumped ship in time before it sunk...

[GT108]

The more elaborate you lies are, the more likely you will be fell by them.

If she stuck to religion as her reason, stick with it instead of giving a whole lot of half ass excuse, and hope one will stick.

I am glad she is gone too.

While at the beginning of the episode, I was rooting for her because I felt she was unfairly singled out last week. By the end, her better than thou attitude made me regret my earlier position.

Good for Rebecca to call her out at the end, or else she would face the music from the "Mean Girls" next week.

[crabby1997]

the rewards are getting boring now, playing hockey, playing baseball (seem so male oriented) what happen to those shopping sprees?!!

[B40]

the rewards are getting boring now, playing hockey, playing baseball (seem so male oriented) what happen to those shopping sprees?!!

He's probably waiting until there are less people so he has to spend less money...I'm sure there will be one or two nice rewards down the line

[felix]

He's probably waiting until there are less people so he has to spend less money...
Sounds like a true RFD'er to me! :cheesygri

[felix]

bump .. it's thursday ..

[Anessa]

why is there 2 Apprentice threads? lol

[M-e-X-x]

yes.. BILL!

excited to see him back, but disappointed at first.. didn't say anything in the boardroom till the end... ah well, all good :)

[alkapone]

This year is very dull. Care about any of these characters?

Anyone notice the facial 'skin' on the women. Terrible. Should avoid closeups. Good thing they wear some makeup.

Why doesnt Trump increase Carolyns food allowance?...

[Rosico]

i wish that sassy girl was given more of a chance. loved the accent. oh well, at least it was fun seeing Bill and Caroline suck up to Trump after he went against their opinions.

[Mgz]

another sweet ass has to go :(


the female SUCKS.. lost 3 (or 4?) consecutive tasks in a row now...unless they mix/switch team like the survivor..arrrrrrrr

[felix]

Nah, she was annoying. Wasn't she the one who told Toral to step up and then made a big deal about putting her in the costume?

[NDman]

"YOU KNOW WHO THIS IS!!!???" :D Best line of the night!

[B40]

"YOU KNOW WHO THIS IS!!!???" :D Best line of the night!

Which part was that from?

Best line of the night for me was "You're good at ordering food" :lol:

[NDman]

Which part was that from?

The Rubble Man song. :cheesygri

[GT108]

Anyone know where can we find that song?

[Rometiklan]

I would have fired Jennifer. She's a good team player, but hardly a person who can run a corporation. She's kind of a scatterbrain, who crumbles a bit under pressure. She didn't even know the name of the movie and the title was emblazened across the float right in front of her. But Trump has been quoted as saying, "Jennifer is one of the most beautiful woman I have ever seen." I think Trump is easily swayed by good looking women. Kristi on the other hand, is pretty arrogant. She likes to antagonize, so any projects involving her will be filled with conflict. I think a character like Kristi would have been better for ratings since she is so adversarial. And we all love to hate someone like that, right? :D

[RW99]

I would have fired Jennifer. She's a good team player, but hardly a person who can run a corporation. She's kind of a scatterbrain, who crumbles a bit under pressure. She didn't even know the name of the movie and the title was emblazened across the float right in front of her. But Trump has been quoted as saying, "Jennifer is one of the most beautiful woman I have ever seen." I think Trump is easily swayed by good looking women.

Yeah, I was actually suprised that Jennifer wasn't fired. I would have put money on that one. But I guess what you said might be true...

[ChinpokoMon]

Anyone know where can we find that song?

http://media.putfile.com/Rubble-Man

[alkapone]

I think Trump is easily swayed by good looking women. [.........]

Really... :razz:

Trump and I have something in common......'that's about it' :D

[Rometiklan]

I think Trump is easily swayed by good looking women. [.........]

Really... :razz:

Trump and I have something in common......'that's about it' :D

HahAAA! You and Trump wouldn't be alone in that regard. :D

Considering Trump made a decision based on a personal bias towards good looking women, against the advice of Carolyn and Bill, and his own mantra about being able to make tough business decisions, Trump is clearly thinking with his hormones instead of his head. Jennifer blew the presentation, and contributed more towards the loss than Kristi. Also, I think keeping Kristi would have been better for ratings since her confrontational attitude would have made her the perfect antagonist from week to week. Firing Jennifer would have been the better business decision.

[felix]

I don't know, i thought Kristi was better looking than Jennifer? I thought Jennifer's eyes are too close together.
I mean ... take a look comparing their best pics ...

Kristi
http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/tv/apprentice/trump/04/assets/slideshow/kristi/kristi3.jpg

Jennifer
http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/tv/apprentice/trump/04/assets/slideshow/jenniferm/jenniferm1.jpg

[jordan23]

jennifer looks much better ! :lol:

[Wildfire]

Wow, Felix, IMO, that comparison isn't even close....

Kristi's plain jane, compared to Jennifer, who's wayyyy better looking.

[Rometiklan]

Kristi sort of reminds me of a younger version of Ellen Degeneres in that pic.

[nfnx]

hows the show guys, i wanna watch it but i cant get home in time form work.

[Rometiklan]

The show's alright, same kinds of projects as in previous seasons. Big name corporations signing on to head up the tasks this season with Dairy Queen, Lambourghini, Sony Pictures, etc.

The cast is a little more well rounded this season as opposed to last season's "book smarts versus street smarts". There seems to be some real bright lights in this crop, but as usual, there are a couple of turds floating in the pool though. Apprentice is shown twice in my area, Vancouver. Check your local listings and maybe you can catch it when it's more convenient for you.

[cheukiecfu]

I think Trump is easily swayed by good looking women.none of them are really good-looking...

[RW99]

none of them are really good-looking...

Though I'm not completely fond of her personality, I do have a thing for Rebecca :o

http://www.nbc.com/The_Apprentice_4/images/pic_rebecca.jpg

http://www.theapprenticerules.com/images/candidates-season-4/rebecca-jarvis-lg.jpg

[felix]

I agree. I think Rebecca is the best looking of the females this season. I can't seem to find a decent picture though ...


http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/tv/apprentice/trump/04/assets/slideshow/week03/b_c_rebecca_inflex_403.jpg

[cheukiecfu]

"YOU KNOW WHO THIS IS!!!???" :D Best line of the night!just finished watching...
no.. the best line has gotta be "shut up.. jen.. i dun want to hear anything from you.." lol

[felix]

thursday bump ..

[Vishalca]

What's tonight's task?

[B40]

What's tonight's task?

I think it's some sports event...

My predictions for final 2 - Randall and Alla.

[jraja]

I've missed 2 weeks or so, but what happened to George, and why is Bill back in the show.

[Wildfire]

Oh man, hahahahahahaha, what an ending!

[B40]

Classic...love the looks on their faces in the cab after :lol:

[dmdsoftware2]

4 people got fired today.


I knew it was coming when Caroline said she couldn't decide who did the worst.

[thelefteyeguy]

Oh man, hahahahahahaha, what an ending!


wtf... :lol:

how do you plug 3 episodes???

[jerryhussain]

AWESOME !

[Wildfire]

That was classic, how the hell did they all fit in the taxi cab together?
Did Trump rent one of those cabs where all the clowns get out of??

[NDman]

Whoahahahhaa. There'll be at least 2 review-episodes now. Must be hell of an uncomfortable cab ride

Funny that Bill and Caroline were out to get Jennifer this time out since they couldn't do it last time. :cheesygri

[x86asm]

Man imagine that, that was like a swift slap in the face.

LOL, remember at the end in the taxi ride? Nobody said anything lol.

[NDman]

Ok episode, AWESOME ending!!!

[Wildfire]

So what happens back in the suite, do the rest of them wait and wait forever expecting someone coming back and then Carolyn has to go up and tell them "uhhh, they are all gone b!tches mwahahaha"

[skeletor]

OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is why I love the apprentice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What a huge shock!!!

[sureLoss]

Mark's face was priceless for 1 second. I had a good laugh watching it

[jerryhussain]

LOL, remember at the end in the taxi ride? Nobody said anything lol.
Yeah, you could cut the tension with a knife. The silence was deafening.. :lol:

Also while they were getting into the cab, Josh was gigling. :-0

So what happens back in the suite, do the rest of them wait and wait forever expecting someone coming back and then Carolyn has to go up and tell them "uhhh, they are all gone b!tches mwahahaha"
hehe

[mike_leafs13]

how are they supposed to fill 3 extra shows? i would have been happy if he just fired 2...

[M-e-X-x]

So what happens back in the suite, do the rest of them wait and wait forever expecting someone coming back and then Carolyn has to go up and tell them "uhhh, they are all gone b!tches mwahahaha"

i would assume so.. or probably trump will go up and give them crap like last season when verna quit magna corp. after the motel task...

"does anyone else wanna quit?"

this time around, it'll be "don't pull sh1t like this anymore.. you guys are worse than season 3 candidates!" lol

[north77]

HAHAHAHA! I had a feeling this was gonna happen.
:-0

Great episode.

I never liked Josh... bitched and whined about other people all the time and actually *did* very little. Jen. just dug herself into the hole. WTF was she thinking commiting to sell 8 radar guns?

Well that's 3 less episodes to worry about I guess... :lol:

[Wildfire]

how are they supposed to fill 3 extra shows? i would have been happy if he just fired 2...
The season kinda started late this year, usually it starts at the same time as Survivor but this time it started a few weeks late, and if you listen to Trump at the start of the show he says "On this 13 week task blah blah" so based on that, it'll probably end around the same week as Survivor...

We started with 18 people ....So far 9 (with tonight) are fired.

Tonight was episode 6

13-6 = 7 episodes remaining, 9 candidates left....yep, right on schedule..

[M-e-X-x]

HAHAHAHA! I had a feeling this was gonna happen.
:-0

Great episode.

I never liked Josh... bitched and whined about other people all the time and actually *did* very little. Jen. just dug herself into the hole. WTF was she thinking commiting to sell 8 radar guns?

Well that's 3 less episodes to worry about I guess... :lol:


true.. when josh criticised this and that, sounded alright at first and i was waiting to see him in action to show his worth.. well, his worth was absolutely appalling :( go randell!

[jerryhussain]

Also this season had 18 candidates instead of 16, so it isnt as bad in the grand scheme of things. ;)

[NDman]

Also while they were getting into the cab, Josh was gigling. :-0

So was Jen. At the very very last moment, she had this smirk and then it cuts to the credits

[bmaz]

thursday bump ..
Is this the reason why your post count has gone through the roof?
No one 'Bumps' an entertainment thread, you either add something to it or you move on.

[blizzah]

Anyone have a cap, missed it.

DAMMIT, sounded like an awesome ending.

[bmaz]

The first episode I have seen all season, and what a time to start.
Now I have to see next weeks episode to see the reaction of everyone else, when no one else makes it back to the suite.

[B40]

Is this the reason why your post count has gone through the roof?
No one 'Bumps' an entertainment thread, you either add something to it or you move on.

But if it wasn't for his weekly reminder bumps I'd miss all my favourite shows :rolleyes:

[j3fan]

Is this the reason why your post count has gone through the roof?
No one 'Bumps' an entertainment thread, you either add something to it or you move on.

now, it's my turn, it's dropping too fast and it deserves a bump...

friday morning bump :twisted:

[Vishalca]

That was the most shocking ending ever.

Totally unexpected.

Awesome.


I think Randall will win.

[j3fan]

That was the most shocking ending ever.

Totally unexpected.

Awesome.


I think Randall will win.

i think no one will win and trump will fire all of them next episode....

[Yaowsers]

Hahahahahaha!

[realize]

Go Trump Go

u da mang

;)

[crabby1997]

Man imagine that, that was like a swift slap in the face.

LOL, remember at the end in the taxi ride? Nobody said anything lol.

hehe, it didn't even look like the guys in the cab wanna let Jennifer in after all those bitching she did in the boardroom. I bet they woulda kick her right off if they weren't filming it. :lol:

and was it just me or did Trump dye his hair? it looked a little bit more blonder this episode..

[Bordello]

I love twists like these. That was a great boardroom. I'm assuming the season is going to be much shorter now because of the fewer candidates.

BTW, there's supposed to be a double firing on Martha's Apprentice next week.

[cheukiecfu]

hahhaaha.. so funny.. "all of you are fired.. go home.. go"

[Chase]

I bet the black guy with the funny nose will win , seems like they all idolize him .... including The Donald .

[B40]

I bet the black guy with the funny nose will win , seems like they all idolize him .... including The Donald .

Have you seen his profile? He has like 5 degrees and owns a consulting company...

My prediction for final two is Randall vs. Alla.

[Wildfire]

Have you seen his profile? He has like 5 degrees and owns a consulting company...

My prediction for final two is Randall vs. Alla.
If you look back in this thread, I picked Randall as winner after the first episode aired :cheesygri

[B40]

If you look back in this thread, I picked Randall as winner after the first episode aired :cheesygri

Good call I remember somebody saying that early on...

Randall, the guy with 5 degrees vs. Alla the million dollar stripper...good finale and won't be a blowout like last year when Tanya screwed up.

[Wildfire]

Good call I remember somebody saying that early on...

Randall, the guy with 5 degrees vs. Alla the million dollar stripper...good finale and won't be a blowout like last year when Tanya screwed up.
Apparently she's worth like 12 Million dollars....she owns some spas...getting a job with Trump would actually be a big downgrade

[B40]

Apparently she's worth like 12 Million dollars....she owns some spas...getting a job with Trump would actually be a big downgrade

There would be good networking opportunities, but other than that the pay sucks, but it's not like she needs it.

Does she own "spas" or strip clubs? :|

It's supposed to come out in one of the board rooms when they find out she was a stripper before.

[Chase]

Good call I remember somebody saying that early on...

Randall, the guy with 5 degrees vs. Alla the million dollar stripper...good finale and won't be a blowout like last year when Tanya screwed up.
is Randall the black guy? wtf is Allah?

[B40]

is Randall the black guy? wtf is Allah?

My prediction for final two:

http://nbc.com/The_Apprentice_4/images/pic_randal.jpg vs. http://nbc.com/The_Apprentice_4/images/pic_alla.jpg

[Wildfire]

is Randall the black guy? wtf is Allah?
Yes, Randall is the black guy

http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/7942/picrandal9qs.jpg

Although, he also could be easily confused with :


Brevin Knight (of the NBA Charlotte BobCats)
http://www.cavshistory.com/images/players/Brevin_Knight.jpg

Or the guy from the "Humpty Dance"
http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/9189/daisukesakama14nx.jpg

[ryosuke003]

Brevin Knight (of the NBA Charlotte BobCats)
http://www.cavshistory.com/images/players/Brevin_Knight.jpg


LOL brevin knight. he's on my yahoo fantasy nba team.

i agree with the randall pick for the end, but i also like rebecca and would like to see her last longer in the show too.

[RW99]

While I thought the ending was funny for a bit, but I really didn't like it. It was done purely by Trump to see if he can shake things up in the ratings. He knows the ratings have been sliding since the first year and wanted to do something that people would talk about. I would have been more than happy if he fired Jen and the project manager (sorry, bad with names). But the other two shouldn't have been fired IMO. The guy teaching technique is a slight possibility. He could have approached the parents after each kid finished in the cage. But the guy feeding the machine??

Yeah he didn't have any sales, but what else could he do? He didn't come up with the idea of a batting cage (I think) and they needed someone to feed the machine. What was he to do? Feed it once, go grab a sale and comeback to feed a second ball? :lol: Someone was going to have to feed the machine the entire promotion. Rotating people off the machine would have saved him, but it still means they lose one sales person over the course of the promotion.

Oh well, it's just my little opinion rant. Guess that's not why I don't have the green like Trump ;)

[jerryhussain]

I would have been more than happy if he fired Jen and the project manager (sorry, bad with names). But the other two shouldn't have been fired IMO. The guy teaching technique is a slight possibility. He could have approached the parents after each kid finished in the cage. But the guy feeding the machine??

Yeah he didn't have any sales, but what else could he do? He didn't come up with the idea of a batting cage (I think) and they needed someone to feed the machine. What was he to do? Feed it once, go grab a sale and comeback to feed a second ball? :lol: Someone was going to have to feed the machine the entire promotion. Rotating people off the machine would have saved him, but it still means they lose one sales person over the course of the promotion.

Oh well, it's just my little opinion rant. Guess that's not why I don't have the green like Trump ;)
Mark was on Trump's hitlist from week2 (Lamborghini task) where he screwed up BIG time and the PM on that task; Chris saved his ass by not brining him into the boardroom.

Even in this task, Bill came up to him and gave him a clue as to what he should be doing but he chose not to listen to his suggestions.

[RW99]

Even in this task, Bill came up to him and gave him a clue as to what he should be doing but he chose not to listen to his suggestions.

Yeah, I remember Bill talking to him, just couldn't remember what. I'm just confused as to what he could have done instead of feeding the machine.

[impronto]

wtf is Allah?

lol

[dmdsoftware2]

Anyone know where can we find that song?


Full song:

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/scp_v3/viewer/index.php?pid=16121&rn=70100&cl=70668&ch=70531&sid=97225548

You have to scroll down to Week 5 and click Rubble Man

[doubloonie]

There would be good networking opportunities, but other than that the pay sucks, but it's not like she needs it.

Does she own "spas" or strip clubs? :|

It's supposed to come out in one of the board rooms when they find out she was a stripper before.

And it's excellent free advertising! If only to get her name and her business out there for more people to find out about. Smart move on her part.

[B40]

While I thought the ending was funny for a bit, but I really didn't like it. It was done purely by Trump to see if he can shake things up in the ratings. He knows the ratings have been sliding since the first year and wanted to do something that people would talk about. I would have been more than happy if he fired Jen and the project manager (sorry, bad with names). But the other two shouldn't have been fired IMO. The guy teaching technique is a slight possibility. He could have approached the parents after each kid finished in the cage. But the guy feeding the machine??

Yeah he didn't have any sales, but what else could he do? He didn't come up with the idea of a batting cage (I think) and they needed someone to feed the machine. What was he to do? Feed it once, go grab a sale and comeback to feed a second ball? :lol: Someone was going to have to feed the machine the entire promotion. Rotating people off the machine would have saved him, but it still means they lose one sales person over the course of the promotion.

Oh well, it's just my little opinion rant. Guess that's not why I don't have the green like Trump ;)

I agree with you....the guy who was feeding the machine didn't deserve to get fired...

It may have been planned all along...Martha Stewart just fired 2 people yesterday too.

[dmdsoftware2]

I agree with you....the guy who was feeding the machine didn't deserve to get fired...

It may have been planned all along...Martha Stewart just fired 2 people yesterday too.

Trump is not hiring ball feeders.

[RW99]

Trump is not hiring ball feeders.

Yeah, but you have to see my point, someone had to feed the machine. Fire the person that came up with the idea of a batting cage, but not the person doing the task assigned by the project manager.

Anyway, it just sucked the way they did it IMO.

[B40]

Yeah, but you have to see my point, someone had to feed the machine. Fire the person that came up with the idea of a batting cage, but not the person doing the task assigned by the project manager.

Anyway, it just sucked the way they did it IMO.

Exactly, it's not like he said I don't want to sell, let me sit and feed balls.

[felix]

Thursday night bump! :)

[jerryhussain]

Anybody think Markus is related to the character Randy from My Name is Earl ? :|

[NDman]

Markus saved Clay's ass. I thought there might be a double-firing today. :D

[YLSF]

They should have had Marcus lead a session on effective communication!!

However, I wonder about the show when a guy like that managed to get through the casting process!!

[NDman]

No kidding. Markus is ridiculous. He fumbles every single word he says. He requires a minimum of 26 sentences to get 1 point acrossed, if that. Even the cab-ride interview, he couldn't even say anything about the whole situation. That was just laughable.

The only line he didn't fumble and it was GREAT -- "If you mean it, which I don't think you do.", responding to Trumps "good luck" parting shot

[B40]

They should have had Marcus lead a session on effective communication!!

However, I wonder about the show when a guy like that managed to get through the casting process!!

It says he's an inventor...he must have invented breast implants or something

[north77]

Clay is such a B1tch. Did anyone else hear him snip at Adam in the elevator
"Don't talk to me." Yet, it was Adam that saved his bacon in the boardroom. :razz:

I too thought it was going to be a double firing.
Clay is next to go. :twisted:

[blizzah]

It says he's an inventor...he must have invented breast implants or something

He was smoking the cigars though before teh board room.

WHAT A ******, jeez.

[cheukiecfu]

No kidding. Markus is ridiculous. He fumbles every single word he says. He requires a minimum of 26 sentences to get 1 point acrossed, if that. Even the cab-ride interview, he couldn't even say anything about the whole situation. That was just laughable.

The only line he didn't fumble and it was GREAT -- "If you mean it, which I don't think you do.", responding to Trumps "good luck" parting shot"they took my idea... u know... they.. u know... wasn't that.. u know... intelligent" :lol: :lol: :lol: i doubt he knows what he was talking about..
Trump was so surprised when Markus fired that sentence at him...

[Mgz]

I'm AMAZED that Markus make this far, lol... the guy is a jokeeee.... we are all LMAO in real life the whole time at the board room.

I need to find out what Investing company that markus work for and move out my asset ASP :twisted: (wait a minute, i don't have any "assets")

LOL'ed

[mallik]

That whole boardroom scene was funny.

"Adam, have you ever had sex before?"

[Rometiklan]

Every time Markus talked, it was painful and laughable at the same time. I was thinking, "Just spit it out, or just shut up!" As soon as Trump gave his little weekly lecture about getting to the point, I knew Markus was going to get fired. That guy couldn't make a point if he had a pencil sharpener. He's all over the map, and he doesn't even know it...poor fool.


It says he's an inventor...he must have invented breast implants or something

HahA! Because he's a boob? :D In some ways, I would have liked it if Markus stayed a bit longer. He was gold, man. It would be great if he ended up Trump's apprentice.

[north77]

.... That guy couldn't make a point if he had a pencil sharpener.


:lol: Touché.

[NDman]

That whole boardroom scene was funny.

"Adam, have you ever had sex before?"
And also... "Do you know?", "Do you?", "Do you?", "Everyone knows. But I didn't know he's gay". Trump had some funny moments last night

[B40]

I'm AMAZED that Markus make this far, lol... the guy is a jokeeee.... we are all LMAO in real life the whole time at the board room.

I need to find out what Investing company that markus work for and move out my asset ASP :twisted: (wait a minute, i don't have any "assets")

LOL'ed

He stayed under the radar...and like Carolyn said, he always said "I don't agree with this and that" so if they loss he could bring that up. Just like the Lambo one where he said there should be a "?"

[alkapone]

This guy should never have gone on this show....has really hurt is career....let alone his love life?

BS....all the way.

Bumbler of the year. :cheesygri

[B40]

Just let me finish. what I am going to say is you cant talk before you listen, right? Please. ok. right? Are you with me on this? Well, yes you interrupt, what we need, well...what this team needs or should consider, well at least maybe...more importantly, first listen, dont minimize me. that really is something to consider. yes...? I always do. focus. look its happening. Are you with me. If you cant see me, I cant hear. I think big. I am not going to say this again. Listen, don't interrupt. Am I right? STOP. Just stop. The big question is. look, look. Stop it. answer me this first. Thats it, we're done.

[The Shirker]

Clay is such a B1tch. Did anyone else hear him snip at Adam in the elevator
"Don't talk to me." Yet, it was Adam that saved his bacon in the boardroom. :razz:

He really is a *****. He also shoved open the door and stormed into the suite. I hope he goes home soon.

[NDman]

Back on the other side of the episode, I was somewhat disappointed that Randal was the PM for the task (I don't think it could have been Alla again but not too sure about the rules). I was really hoping that Randal and Alla will have a showdown before the final, which I think they will be the final 2. Would have been really interesting to hype things up before the final

[alkapone]

I believe that the 2 finalists will be Randall and Rebecca.

Randall as the winner. Has the maturity....people skills ....likabily...etc

If Trump wants to have a black person in his organization...Randall could be the one.

Rebecca has many qualities..potential..certainly the looks...but always appears as if she has to prove herself ... "I am woman hear me roar"

If I was talking with her I would would forget what the question was....let alone care what the answer was. :lol:

[MSBP]

And also... "Do you know?", "Do you?", "Do you?", "Everyone knows. But I didn't know he's gay". Trump had some funny moments last night

He also asked if the other guy had had sex before.

I thought this was supposed to be a job interview. Neither of these questions could legally be asked in an interview. Someone should complain just to teach him a lesson. This is a game but he likes to say it is an interview. So he should abide by the legal rules of the interviewing process.

[cheukiecfu]

Randall as the winner. Has the maturity....people skills ....likabily...etc
If Trump wants to have a black person in his organization...Randall could be the one.yea.. Trump just said "we all know randall is the PM and won the second time.. so i guess everybody thinks he did a good job.. so let's just get this over with.. Randall, if ur team loses next week, you will be exempted from getting fired.."

[The Shirker]

I thought this was supposed to be a job interview. Neither if these questions could legally be asked in an interview. Someone should complain just to teach him a lesson. This is a game but he likes to say it is an interview. So he should abide by the legal rules of the interviewing process.

Great point.

[NDman]

It is RANDAL, with one "L". :cheesygri

*hem* now back to the original program

[thelefteyeguy]

ok, let's get to the main attraction for the show last night...

hubba-hubba ...Carolyn with a nice dress :)

[wju2004]

Trump - he makes the whole show - loved his comments - some like spaghetti etc...Carolyn is pretty :arrowu: but a bit on the thin side no??

[MSBP]

Trump - he makes the whole show - loved his comments - some like spaghetti etc...Carolyn is pretty :arrowu: but a bit on the thin side no??

Carolyn has a Countrystyle donuts haircut. To each his own I guess.

[The Shirker]

Carolyn has a Countrystyle donuts haircut. To each his own I guess.

:lol: A little leave in conditioner would work wonders.

Did anyone else think she looked uncomfortable when Trump was saying sex has cost him a lot of money in the past? I wonder if anything ever happened between the two of them. They both seemed to have strong opinions about sex in the workplace!

[alkapone]

Carolyn is pretty :arrowu: but a bit on the thin side no??[/QUOTE]



....that's an understatement..

As I said b4 ...Donald increase her daily lunch allowance. :cheesygri

[sankou]

And also... "Do you know?", "Do you?", "Do you?", "Everyone knows. But I didn't know he's gay". Trump had some funny moments last night

the donald is a horrible actor ...there's no way he didn't know clay was gay, especially since he helped pick the contestants this year.

[GT108]

Adam:
Marcus, what was some of the research that you found?

Marcus:
I feel like I'm ...there was a lot of such information that is...what I am seeing here is a common thread with everything is... I can read this more in-depth and come up with a great deal more information its...

Adam:
- At this point, that's all you have right?

Marcus:
I'm not done...I'm not close to being done.


Best line by Clay:
When Marcus was talking, it's like jamming a lot of random words together and calling it a sentence. It has no meaning. I just thought, if this guy going to add any value...

[cheukiecfu]

Best line by Clay:
When Marcus was talking, it's like jamming a lot of random words together and calling it a sentence. It has no meaning. I just thought, if this guy going to add any value...but that is so true though.. lol
clay was sometime right.. "he mentioned so many times about he is a jew.. so i just tagged along"

[Wildfire]

He also asked if the other guy had had sex before.

I thought this was supposed to be a job interview. Neither of these questions could legally be asked in an interview. Someone should complain just to teach him a lesson. This is a game but he likes to say it is an interview. So he should abide by the legal rules of the interviewing process.
Yeah I was gonna post to bring that up.
You can't legally ask someone if they are gay on an interview (he loves calling this show that, so fine let's call it that), I think Trump really crossed the line there.

[alkapone]

I think Trump really crossed the line there.[.........]

I agree.....Trump went on and embarrassed eveyone there...even Caroline.

I was embarrassed for him.

[Wildfire]

Toral Mehta http://www.toral-mehta.com/

From Toral's website, you can find links to the other candidates sites...so here they are, (copied from her site).

The Hand-Picked Candidates:

Astute Adam www.adam.israelov.com
Tough Cookie Alla www.allawartenberg.com
Striking Brian www.brianmandelbaum.com
Team Player Chris www.chrisvalletta.com
Clever Clay www.claylee.com
Gentleman James www.jamesdillon.com
Angel Jennifer W www.jenniferwallen.com
Go Smile Josh www.joshshaw.com
Manager Mark L www.marklamkin.com
Eloquent Mark G coming soon...
Diplomat Marshawn www.marshawn.com
Erudite Randal www.randallpinkett.com
Rockstar Rebecca coming soon...

She calls them the "handpicked candidates" so does that mean the 4 that aren't in that list (Felicia/Markus/Melissa/Kristi) were NOT handpicked by Trump.
I guess you can say they were only included as "drama" which so far is certainly the case of Markus, Melissa, and Kristi, and Felicia so far to a lesser extent. Expect Felicia to go down in flames soon then.

[m77m7]

Randall has one of the most impressive resumes I've ever seen in my life.

[sankou]

Randall has one of the most impressive resumes I've ever seen in my life.

doesn't that make him over qualified for this position then ...i remember seeing some of the previous winners on the donny deutch show where they basically admitted that they didn't really do much of anything after becoming donald's apprentice (for instance, kelly was selling donald's line of bottled water).

[Rometiklan]

doesn't that make him over qualified for this position then ...i remember seeing some of the previous winners on the donny deutch show where they basically admitted that they didn't really do much of anything after becoming donald's apprentice (for instance, kelly was selling donald's line of bottled water).

Kelly's making $250,000 a year for selling bottled water? Damn, sounds kind of cushy...

[m77m7]

doesn't that make him over qualified for this position then ...i remember seeing some of the previous winners on the donny deutch show where they basically admitted that they didn't really do much of anything after becoming donald's apprentice (for instance, kelly was selling donald's line of bottled water).
He is in charge of Trump Place in NYC. He was featured this past Thursday.

[GT108]

Did anyone notice how stiff Kelly looked when he was on last week's episode?
Kelly must be the stiffest looking person on TV.

He should be selling muscle relaxant or something.

When he tried to make a joke, no one noticed because he was looking so stiff.

Quick, someone get him a Valium before his next TV appearance.

[Bordello]

Did anyone notice how stiff Kelly looked when he was on last week's episode?
Kelly must be the stiffest looking person on TV.

He should be selling muscle relaxant or something.

When he tried to make a joke, no one noticed because he was looking so stiff.

Quick, someone get him a Valium before his next TV appearance.
He was like that during the entire season too. In the finale of the 3rd season, they did a recap of what the previous Apprentices where up to. I remember they showed Kelly cooped up in a tiny windowless office and his duty was to market Trump Ice. I found that pretty funny when you compare it to the job that Bill got. I guess Kelly eventually got a real job with Trump Place. He has to honestly be one of the most boring and rigid person on TV.

[GT108]

:arrowu:

After this showing, back into the cave he goes...

Hey!
It's almost 10:00.
Still no discussion on last night episode?

[RW99]

:arrowu:

After this showing, back into the cave he goes...

Hey!
It's almost 10:00.
Still no discussion on last night episode?

This is "The Donald" thread, so it's on tonight :D

[GT108]

Sorry, posted the question in wrong thread.
My bad.
Too many reality shows nowaday.
Confused reality for me.

[Wildfire]

Found the following articles, made by past firees from this season, pretty interesting, both spill the beans on Trump practices.

Apprentice's Markus Has Words for Trump (http://www.tvguide.com/News/Insider/?cmsGuid=%7BE039CFB8-EBF0-4289-8763-EA77F3C38288%7D)

Jennifer W. has comments on Trump (http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/364288p-310075c.html)

[NDman]

Meh. Markus is still incoordinated.

What I found interesting in Jenn W's quote is

Meanwhile, fired "Apprentice" Jennifer Wallen yesterday lent her support to Mark (Markus) Garrison's allegations in this column of tricky editing on the show, a charge that Trump denied. She added that Trump is a male chauvinist the boardroom.

If anything, Trump didn't fire Jenn (mind you, *the* other Jenn, whom I think is better looking. :D) 3 weeks ago for the exact opposite reason

[dmdsoftware2]

I hear both teams lose this week.... should be good.

[NDman]

I hear both teams lose this week.... should be good.
Huh? Now that's a nice twist. Are you just hyping things or you have somewhat reliable source?

[Bordello]

Found the following articles, made by past firees from this season, pretty interesting, both spill the beans on Trump practices.

Apprentice's Markus Has Words for Trump (http://www.tvguide.com/News/Insider/?cmsGuid=%7BE039CFB8-EBF0-4289-8763-EA77F3C38288%7D)
Wow, even Markus' interview sounds like mindless dribble. I've met kindergarteners who are more articulate than he is.

[jerryhussain]

B O O M ! :cheesygri

SPOILER BELOW:HIGHLIGHT TO READ

Two more bite the dust

[NDman]

Rebecca really shone tonight!

As for the firing, good riddance. :cheesygri What's with Trump's attitude these days? He has this mad look on his face each time after the boardroom this season. "Go!" "Now!" "Out!, etc

[Rosico]

Good episode tonight. Too bad for little brian.

[jerryhussain]

Rebecca really shone tonight!

As for the firing, good riddance. :cheesygri What's with Trump's attitude these days? He has this mad look on his face each time after the boardroom this season. "Go!" "Now!" "Out!, etc
Yeah, good for her.

I'm backing Randal & Rebecca. Ala, her "assistant" Felisha, Clay are all whiny and Adam will probably get the age old reason "you are too young" remark. :|

[Bordello]

Too bad Capital Edge didn't lose. Clay was an idiot. He better be the next to go.

[M-e-X-x]

man, trump's face was sooooooooooooo red! :mad: :mad: :mad: lol...

hmm.. bill's taking over, ever so slowly.. sweetness! he's the man :lol:

[B40]

man, trump's face was sooooooooooooo red! :mad: :mad: :mad: lol...

hmm.. bill's taking over, ever so slowly.. sweetness! he's the man :lol:

Bill taking over? Nah it's more like George has important work to do, lets put in the scrubs.

[Rometiklan]

Bill taking over? Nah it's more like George has important work to do, lets put in the scrubs.

Let's give Kelly a chance. HahA!

[thelefteyeguy]

stupid question but is this a short season?....they have cut short 4 episodes with the extra firings...

[Vishalca]

6 people have been fired in two boardrooms.

This will be a much shorter season.

[GT108]

Highly doubtful.

I read somewhere that Bill was leaving the Trump organization after his contract expires early next year.



hmm.. bill's taking over, ever so slowly.. sweetness! he's the man :lol:

[yayawhoo2003]

I was hoping that clay would get voted off. I cant stand that guy what a baby!!! Even though shes good at the game I dont like the blonde girl on Clays team. She seems really snotty like a Hilton or something.

[B40]

I was hoping that clay would get voted off. I cant stand that guy what a baby!!! Even though shes good at the game I dont like the blonde girl on Clays team. She seems really snotty like a Hilton or something.

Well she's worth like $5 million dollars...

Clay will be gone soon enough...

[Rometiklan]

6 people have been fired in two boardrooms.

This will be a much shorter season.

The ratings have been dropping a lot since season 1 according to some of the stuff I've read. Burnett and Trump have too much clout to have their show cancelled so they are probably going with mass firings to end it as soon and as painless as possible.

[sankou]

Even though shes good at the game I dont like the blonde girl on Clays team. She seems really snotty like a Hilton or something.

i think she's the type that likes to establish cliques then ostracize and vilify those who aren't in her clique ...which is pretty much how the girls treated toral and rebecca in the first few episodes, now it's clay, and i'm sure when he's gone they will find another contestant to be their common enemy.

[felix]

Highly doubtful.

I read somewhere that Bill was leaving the Trump organization after his contract expires early next year.
Source? Any links? Why is he leaving?

[masterhapposai]

trump's going to get fired at this rate

[crabby1997]

6 people have been fired in two boardrooms.

This will be a much shorter season.

lol, prob. running low on budget or ratings are getting low since nothing really new and exciting has come out..

[Wildfire]

stupid question but is this a short season?....they have cut short 4 episodes with the extra firings...
Well, they started this season a few weeks later than usual, so it'll end around the same time.

Here's my theory.
You can hear Trump call this a "13 week" task, and we started with 18 candidates so it was inevitable there'd be some multiple firings to even things up...
Right now, we sit at 5 episodes remaining (#9,10,11,12,13) with 6 apprentices left, so if I assume there's no interview process this season, and Trump fires one a week, we're left with a 1 vs 1 battle on the final episode.
So, everything works out just fine.

Also, based on tonight's episode, I'm betting it's Randall vs Rebecca in the final two. Why? Well Alla, got her first "bad edit" tonight, sure she did all the work on the winning task but, if you watch that segment Trump did on "disloyalty" to bosses, he mentioned how he'd never have anyone on his team that talked bad about someone in charge...Well Alla, talked badly about Clay who was PM, and the rest of the team showed disloyalty by voting against his exemption.
It's foreshadowing done by the producers to lead to Alla's impeding doom.(and I bet it's a case of her badmouthing another PM too..)

So, I'm predicting Alla gets the boot in the next few episodes, in a pretty surprising boardroom.

You watch.

[B40]

So, I'm predicting Alla gets the boot in the next few episodes, in a pretty surprising boardroom.

You watch.

That's probably the episode when Trump "finds out" she was a former stripper...

Glad Rebecca made it this far, I thought she was the hottest when I looked at the cast before the season started.

[Wildfire]

That's probably the episode when Trump "finds out" she was a former stripper...

Glad Rebecca made it this far, I thought she was the hottest when I looked at the cast before the season started.
You got it. Maybe one of her former clients is a head of a company that's running the task and he recognizes her...umm "face".

Yeah, Rebecca is gorgeous, really noticed it this past episode, and she's seems really smart, good combo.

[alkapone]

Saw the show...friday..

Good boots IMO...

That blonde girl who did all the work for the winning team...looks like she might go the distance.....lots on the ball. She has the maturity that Rebecca lacks. Rebecca is smart and has a future.

This season is one of the worst.

The losers never own up to their gaffes...Are they trying to get past The Donald and Caraoline..George and others. Fat chance. Integrity is the word here.

[felix]

Well Alla, talked badly about Clay who was PM, and the rest of the team showed disloyalty by voting against his exemption.
It's foreshadowing done by the producers to lead to Alla's impeding doom.(and I bet it's a case of her badmouthing another PM too..)

Also how she stressed in the boardroom how 90% of the task was on her shoulders and that she should have been PM. I think a real team player wouldn't brag about it like that. She could have just acknowledged that 90% of the task was done by the rest of the team.

[Bordello]

Also how she stressed in the boardroom how 90% of the task was on her shoulders and that she should have been PM. I think a real team player wouldn't brag about it like that. She could have just acknowledged that 90% of the task was done by the rest of the team.
She was probably just upset that Clay took all the credits even though he did absolutely nothing. I know I would be too.

[Kasakato]

I can't wait for this weeks. Its all about XM Radio!

[Wildfire]

Found the following articles, made by past firees from this season, pretty interesting, both spill the beans on Trump practices.

Apprentice's Markus Has Words for Trump (http://www.tvguide.com/News/Insider/?cmsGuid=%7BE039CFB8-EBF0-4289-8763-EA77F3C38288%7D)

Jennifer W. has comments on Trump (http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/364288p-310075c.html)

Just to follow up on this post....

Our resident Apprentice bashers Jennifer Wallen and Markus Garrison have been given cease and desist orders and threats of legal actions and they and the other 16 candidates were given e-mail warnings not to bad-mouth the show per contractual agreements.

read more here : Apprentices told they can't talk bad about Trump or get sued (http://www.nydailynews.com/11-14-2005/front/story/365413p-311130c.html)

[felix]

LOL @ "The Donald is a sexist" .. as if we didn't know already :cheesygri

[alkapone]

LOL @ "The Donald is a sexist" .. as if we didn't know already :cheesygri


Yeah...we knew ...but we didn't want to talk about it.. we don't gossip :cheesygri

[Tshute]

http://www.realitytvworld.com/images/heads/storyleads/apprentice4cast_story.jpg
So many heartless, empty souls, alll in one room. :arrowu:

[Wildfire]

WOW, that has to be the crappiest reward ever on this show...

"You get to fly around in a helicopter and listen to me talk about all the YOOGE buildings with my name on them" - Trump

Well....at least he didn't make them stare at stuffed fish hanging in his living room...like Martha.

[B40]

Clay is such a ***...

"They're going to lose the next task horribly with Rebecca and her broken ankle" :lol: :lol:

[Vishalca]

Double episode next week? They are trying to finish this season off ASAP.

[Wildfire]

First let me say, I'm all for keeping the hot piece of a$$ Rebecca over whiny Clay, but Trump is delusional if he's gonna use past history as the reason why Clay should have gone tonight...

Past History :

Clay 2-0 as PM and 6-3 overall
Rebecca 0-2 as PM and 2-7 overall

Yeah, um, sure there buddy, let's hear more of your buildings... :rolleyes:

[B40]

First let me say, I'm all for keeping the hot piece of a$$ Rebecca over whiny Clay, but Trump is delusional if he's gonna use past history as the reason why Clay should have gone tonight...

Past History :

Clay 2-0 as PM and 6-3 overall
Rebecca 0-2 as PM and 2-7 overall

Yeah, um, sure there buddy, let's hear more of your buildings... :rolleyes:

bah...Clay was an idiot...

Funny how at the beginning he said the other team would lose and they wouldn't be able to blame it on him...but what ends up happening is his team loses and they blame it on him :lol:

[Bordello]

Clay is an idiot. He deserved to go home. It's probably just the editing, but everything he does annoys the heck out of me. He's right up there with Markus as the dumbest Apprentice contestant ever.

Boy, did their song ever suck.

[north77]

Clay is such a *****, with a huge attitude problem. Queen Pissy Pissy when he doesn't get his way. He needed to go 'cause no one wanted to work with the guy. Then the Queen P. still had the nerve to bad mouth everyone in the cab. *shakes head*

LMAO at Jen W. and Markus w/ the ZIPLOCK order. What did they expect signing up for this? You get your 15 minutes of fame and a shot at being the Apprentice at SOME price. You turn over the creative aspect of how you are portrayed to the Producers of the show. If they make you look like a complete ass, well... That's showbiz kids. :lol:

[ZeeTX]

First let me say, I'm all for keeping the hot piece of a$$ Rebecca over whiny Clay, but Trump is delusional if he's gonna use past history as the reason why Clay should have gone tonight...

Past History :

Clay 2-0 as PM and 6-3 overall
Rebecca 0-2 as PM and 2-7 overall

Yeah, um, sure there buddy, let's hear more of your buildings... :rolleyes:
When Trump said "You have to take past into consideration" - I am sure he didn't just mean the win-loose ratio but the overall performance and the person's respect as a leader by his team members and as far as I remeber Clay did not had it once in any of the projects.

Being a strong headed in what you believe does not mean being arrogant and disagreeing and showing down on everything of else opinions.

Clay had to go. Clay - He's Fired.. :!:

[sonic]

WHO do you think will be the Apprentice? :?:

[alkapone]

WHO do you think will be the Apprentice? :?:


The blonde in the pink pictured above should win. She is bright.

I think Trump would prob like Rebecca to win...he likes her spunk...

Pleas don't define that :razz: :cheesygri

I saw the program last nite. Clay had to go for sure. Hard to believe that some people can can have such an 'ego'.
Hope is mommy loves him because no one else does....after they get to know and work with him.
Big mistake....could really hurt his career.....but on the other hand in this crazy world it just might make it better.

[zzidaric]

The blonde in the PINK should NOT win.

She is a freaking arrogant hyprcritical stripper / *****!
Read http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=198695&highlight=alla

Maybe she should show us some pink!

Z

[B40]

The blonde in the PINK should NOT win.

She is a freaking arrogant hyprcritical stripper / *****!
Read http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=198695&highlight=alla

Maybe she should show us some pink!

Z

What does a stripper have to do with her not winning? She is worth $5M.

[utalking2me]

Do you think by the time she's fired or wins it all, will Rebecca finally be rid of the crutches?
BTW, she does look a bit like Sandra Bullock.

[alkapone]

The blonde in the PINK should NOT win.

She is a freaking arrogant hyprcritical stripper / *****!
Read http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=198695&highlight=alla

Maybe she should show us some .....yuk yuk.

Z

Its not the stripping part that concerns me ....its her questionable past.
I was not aware of the RFD thread on her past.

Not good for The Donalds image I dont think...
See how he 'trumped ' up the wholesomeness of that ? Miss Universe?

[sharkyJay]

Editing makes people more polar than they really are. I doubt their personalities are that polar. Those idiots that got kicked off must have some intelligence to make it this far (millionaires).

Clay is an idiot. He deserved to go home. It's probably just the editing, but everything he does annoys the heck out of me. He's right up there with Markus as the dumbest Apprentice contestant ever.

Boy, did their song ever suck.

[alkapone]

Their song IMO did not suck.... maybe just not as good as the other one....for the type of sound/music they wanted.

A lot of people dont enjoy Music Award shows anymore because they cant relate to all that rap/crap.

[RW99]

As much as I like Rebecca, she should have been fired. They lost the task mainly due to the fact that it wasn't in the demographic. Trump glossed over it and kept going back to Clay. I'm thinking he knew who he would fire well before the boardroom.

But go Rebecca go! :cheesygri

[alkapone]

HOW CAN U COMPARE Rebecca to Clay....ya cant work with this guy... :confused:

[Chookman]

You also have to look at the fact that it's a long job interview and that firing someone who has been awesome for a gaff near the end instead of firing someone who has flown under the radar would leave Trump with candidates who have no initiative or consistently are lukewarm. To use a baseball analogy, I think he'd rather have someone who hits a lot of home runs and occassionally strikes out as opposed to someone who hits a lot of singles and groundouts.

No doubt Trump will get his best two in the final four which gets him at least one good candidate in the final two because the interviewers at the final three will make sure of it.

I think Randal, Alla and Rebecca are the three best for the business world. I think Randal is far above everyone but Rebecca speaks so well that she is a serious threat and Alla has the results and speaks well. Adam is too young and Felisha wasn't hand-picked by Trump.

[alkapone]

Randal, Alla and Rebecca ....contenders for sure...but curious how Trump will view Alla's past?.....he is big on wholesome.......and Rebecca looks mighty wholesome to me. :) Remember....Trump likes to shape his people...in his own 'image' and I think he see's a challenge in her......after all she admits to being a bit subborn. We will see.
She could drum up a lot of biz......people who want to meet her.
Remember...its all in the selling.

[felix]

bump for new episode ..

What happened to Martha Stewart Apprentice last night? I didn't see it on at all.

[alkapone]

bump for new episode ..

What happened to Martha Stewart Apprentice last night? I didn't see it on at all.


Back in jail?........or back in jail if her show didn't get more gawkers er..eyeballs.

[Wildfire]

bump for new episode ..

What happened to Martha Stewart Apprentice last night? I didn't see it on at all.
I don't think Martha was on last night.

Btw, there's a recap @ 9pm ET for Trump's Apprentice

BUT FYI,
there's a NEW episode starting at 10 ET, so stay tuned.

[felix]

Yup just noticed .. recap, then new episode so 2 hours of Apprentice tonight!

[jerryhussain]

OWNED!

Ala, Adam, Feliesha =OWNED

I knew they would get owned when they began whining about the Radioshack incident.

It should have been either Adam or Ala going tonight as it was both of them that spent most of the money while Feliesha kept stressing that they needed to hire more people. Remember Ala cutting 20 people to 15?

[NDman]

Wait, I had to pick another good one to miss tonight!? What gives? Stuck with the computer right now. Anyone care to give a brief recap?

[felix]

Haha .. loved seeing Randal and Rebecca sabatoging the other team. Wonder if it was all rigged.

Why didn't they post this Shania Twain purfume freebie on internet forums .. very quick and easy to do, see how many jump on freebies here on RFD. :)

[B40]

ding dong the virgin is gone

not surprised at all at the final 4

[jerryhussain]

Randall was upset with Rebecca for saying that he didnt step up in the previous task, so Rebecca apologized and they sorted it out.
Task was promoting Shania Twain's new fragrance. Teams had a budget and a limited amount of promotional material (wrapper) for the task. The main objective is to make people call a toll free number to get a FREE sample of the fragrance.
Randall (PM) decided to hire as many people as possible to blanket manhattan, he ended up hiring 60 people.
Ala (PM) decided to spend a significant amount on procuring coaches so Feleisha who kept stressing the need to hire people, ended up hiring 15 people (cut back from 20 due to budget).
Randall then tried purchasing megaphones but found out that only Radioshack carried them and one branch was stocking up all the megaphones (10) on someone else's request. (Ala)
Randall & Rebecca swoop into that Radioshack and buy 9 of them. :cheesygri
Ala, Adam, Feleisha on their way to Radioshack find out that someone else with crutches bought all of their reserved megaphones, start whining ***** ***** ..
Eventually Ala loses by 5 calls. (978 vs 973)
Ala blames Feleisha in the boardroom
Trump asks Ala to go back to the suite and lets Feleisha and Adam fight it out dirty.
Trump fires Adam eventually. I think it was mainly for spending too much on the coaches and not because of lack of experience.

[NDman]

Thanks jerry. From your first thought, I thought Trump nailed them all (Alla, Adam and Feleisha) and went straight to the final 2 :cheesygri

[Bordello]

I wonder why Alla was allowed to go back to the suite while the other two stayed in the boardroom, even though she was the project manager. I don't think I've seen that done before. It's not like she was stellar at the task or anything. She was equally as responsible for their loss as the both of them were. I don't why Trump did that.

Anyways, the right person got fired. Those coaches looked horrible. Buhbye to the real life 40 year old virgin.

[B40]

I wonder why Alla was allowed to go back to the suite while the other two stayed in the boardroom, even though she was the project manager. I don't think I've seen that done before. It's not like she was stellar at the task or anything. She was equally as responsible for their loss as the both of them were. I don't why Trump did that.

Anyways, the right person got fired. Those coaches looked horrible. Buhbye to the real life 40 year old virgin.

It's because Trump said she wasn't going to get fired anyways. I think when the teams are this small, being PM doesn't really have that much of an effect on the team wether it wins or loses.

[alkapone]

...good call overall.

Re the Shania perfume.......it is terrible. Sample in magazine.

It is musky and musky dont work for me in any perfume male or female.
I would like to do a smell test...poll out there.

Maybe it works well with people on the range or something...around the barn...horses etc.
Stetson scents are terrible.....for the horsey set I guess.

Shania wearing a dumb cowboy had at dinner??

Little of Shania that was of interest???

She is a beautiful woman...and I like her stuff.....and have some.

[alkapone]

Haha .. loved seeing Randal and Rebecca sabatoging the other team. Wonder if it was all rigged.

Why didn't they post this Shania Twain purfume freebie on internet forums .. very quick and easy to do, see how many jump on freebies here on RFD. :)

RE...if a freebie.......IT SUCKS er smells BIG TIME.....IMHO and expert opinion :cheesygri

The perfume should have been nice and pretty/flowery maybe a little citrusy........like Shania.......not like a Musk. :)

[RenegadeX]

While it was Adam's suggestion to go with the horse & cart wraps, he was not PM so the decision to go with it or deep-6 it was Ala's to make. They realized that having a street team was the win-it-or-lose it difference in this task so it was poor management to go ahead with allocating so much of the budget towards inanimate advertising.

However, it was Adam's time..

Btw, if he thought about it, Trump must have been disappointed in the winning team - their 60 people got only 5 more signups than the other team's 15. AND they had megaphones. And their team of temps appeared to be more 'with it'. The losing team's 'sandwhich board' wraps looked cheap, tacky, and as Princess said (about the carriages) "I would have been embarrassed to be Shania and seen that representing me" (or something to that effect). Ditto that.

PS.. Shania.. yummy!

[sonic]

:mad: What gives? I turn on apprentice (at 9:pm) & it was all RECAPS!,,,so i fugure ok I'll catch it Next week. then i tune in at 10:45 to catch the last 15 minutes where they are firing Adam! WTF??? :confused:
Stupid!!!!
:mad:

Ok,,,im over it

TV does NOT run my life,,,
TV does NOT run my life....

[RW99]

:mad: What gives? I turn on apprentice (at 9:pm) & it was all RECAPS!,,,so i fugure ok I'll catch it Next week. then i tune in at 10:45 to catch the last 15 minutes where they are firing Adam! WTF??? :confused:
Stupid!!!!
:mad:

Ok,,,im over it

TV does NOT run my life,,,
TV does NOT run my life....

The recap was only for an hour, and the second hour was a new episode ;) I wasn't really watching the recap, but it actually included some new footage. Some guy was all embarrased when he was trying to talk to Jen.

[crabby1997]

Haha .. loved seeing Randal and Rebecca sabatoging the other team. Wonder if it was all rigged.

Why didn't they post this Shania Twain purfume freebie on internet forums .. very quick and easy to do, see how many jump on freebies here on RFD. :)

lol, I thought that part was awesome, I was so nervous for rebecca when she was in radio shack grabbing the megaphones ^^

hehe, i want a sample too, wonder if that number still works right now :cheesygri

[jerryhussain]

OWNED!




Ala SIT !

Ding dong, the witch is gone ... :cheesygri

[pt78dragon]

OWNED!




Ala SIT !

Ding dong, the witch is gone ... :cheesygri

lol well said. but what happens now...theres usually that interview that they do with senior executives....are they gonna skip that now?

[Ryan]

That was pretty funny. Talk about digging your own grave...

[sankou]

lol well said. but what happens now...theres usually that interview that they do with senior executives....are they gonna skip that now?

what's the point? everyone knew randal was the clear favorite from the beginning anyway.

[dmdsoftware2]

lol well said. but what happens now...theres usually that interview that they do with senior executives....are they gonna skip that now?

Never liked the interview show. Why go through 12 weeks of competitions to be told by some know-it-all that they don't like you as a person?

[Wildfire]

Well, they started this season a few weeks later than usual, so it'll end around the same time.

Here's my theory.
You can hear Trump call this a "13 week" task, and we started with 18 candidates so it was inevitable there'd be some multiple firings to even things up...
Right now, we sit at 5 episodes remaining (#9,10,11,12,13) with 6 apprentices left, so if I assume there's no interview process this season, and Trump fires one a week, we're left with a 1 vs 1 battle on the final episode.
So, everything works out just fine.

Also, based on tonight's episode, I'm betting it's Randall vs Rebecca in the final two. Why? Well Alla, got her first "bad edit" tonight, sure she did all the work on the winning task but, if you watch that segment Trump did on "disloyalty" to bosses, he mentioned how he'd never have anyone on his team that talked bad about someone in charge...Well Alla, talked badly about Clay who was PM, and the rest of the team showed disloyalty by voting against his exemption.
It's foreshadowing done by the producers to lead to Alla's impeding doom.(and I bet it's a case of her badmouthing another PM too..)

So, I'm predicting Alla gets the boot in the next few episodes, in a pretty surprising boardroom.

You watch.
Posted a few weeks ago.
:razz:

[jerryhussain]

lol well said. but what happens now...theres usually that interview that they do with senior executives....are they gonna skip that now?
The interview episode isnt that interesting anyway, its a pseudo-contest where Trump can pick off the people he doesnt want. :cheesygri

Posted a few weeks ago. :razz:
Never doubted you. ;) You keep doing that I'm going to avoid you posts completely for fear of being spoilers. :idea:

[Wildfire]

The interview episode isnt that interesting anyway, its a pseudo-contest where Trump can pick off the people he doesnt want. :cheesygri


Never doubted you. ;) You keep doing that I'm going to avoid you posts completely for fear of being spoilers. :idea:

I always thought the interview episode was just a sneaky way of Trump eliminating any people who he hated, who had slipped through the cracks by dumb luck (i.e. what if Markus somehow was always on the winning team and so he never got to the boardroom despite him being an idiot?)
Trump would just get one of his buddies to eliminate any of the riffraff and save himself from being stuck with Markus types in the finale and god forbid, having to hire one.

This time around, he took the responsibility on himself and fired the whole lot of them whenever he felt like it.

Btw Jerry, they aren't spoilers, I've just watched this show from the 1st season, so I pick up on the editor's foreshadowing pretty well. :razz:

[alkapone]

Now that Becky has a boyfriend....I have lost interest...maybe the Donald as well. :lol:

Both might get hired.

[B40]

Posted a few weeks ago.
:razz:

Good for you. If predicting Apprentice outcomes was a sport, you'd be an Olympic champion. :lol:

[Cafe_333]

Felisha was pretty much a shoe-in untill she broke down and cried. Total sign of weakness. This question was in the news recently too, in spite of what some woman may say, it is *not* okay to cry in the workplace. Let that be a lesson to all woman who watched tonight's episode. Ugh, Rebecca can do soo much better. Lots of jealous guys across the continent tonight lol. My prediction: they both get hired. ;)

[Wildfire]

Ugh, Rebecca can do soo much better. Lots of jealous guys across the continent tonight lol. My prediction: they both get hired. ;)
Honestly, I was wondering, "Hey, Napoleon Dynamite is her boyfriend???" :lol:

They had absolutely no chemistry together, Rebecca's face when she saw him was like "oh sh*t.....you're here....*sigh*"

I bet their parents set them up or something...

[B40]

Honestly, I was wondering, "Hey, Napoleon Dynamite is her boyfriend???" :lol:

They had absolutely no chemistry together, Rebecca's face when she saw him was like "oh sh*t.....you're here....*sigh*"

I bet their parents set them up or something...

lol so who's your pick for the winner? Does anyone think Rebecca can win?

I'm sick of these "twists", I would have liked to see Alla in the finals...you just knew when Trump told her to sit he was going to fire her...

[felix]

How do you guys know that both get hired .. is it in the spoilers? Is next episode the season finale?

[Mgz]

Honestly, I was wondering, "Hey, Napoleon Dynamite is her boyfriend???" :lol:

They had absolutely no chemistry together, Rebecca's face when she saw him was like "oh sh*t.....you're here....*sigh*"

I bet their parents set them up or something...


dear nostradamus aka wildfire


could you please enlighten us about your thought on the next winner of apperentice plz :razz:

[Wildfire]

lol so who's your pick for the winner? Does anyone think Rebecca can win?

I'm sick of these "twists", I would have liked to see Alla in the finals...you just knew when Trump told her to sit he was going to fire her...
Well. both of them have been recieving nothing but positive edits the last 3-4 episodes, the way it's being shown.

So what I think is, ultimately Randall will win the final task, as expected, but both him and Rebecca do extremely good jobs on the task, so Trump gives Randall the first choice for what he wants to do, and Rebecca gets hired as well, at whatever task Randall doesn't take...

But that's just my guess.

So I think he hires both...he's had a ton of double firings this season, so why not a double hiring to finish it off?

How do you guys know that both get hired .. is it in the spoilers? Is next episode the season finale?

The finale is a LIVE show, so no one knows who wins...so these are just people's assumptions.

[zzidaric]

Thank God Alla got fired.

All she has going for her is her cold steamroller personality. She played a large part in putting together the crap ad but she she to place the blame elsewhere.

Felisha was a nice team player. Yes she should have a bit more strength but then again there aren't many MEN in business today who are as cold, ruthless and selfish as Alla.

.... but then again what do you expect from a Russian Stripper/ho?

So sad - no happy ending for her on this show.

[Bordello]

Well. both of them have been recieving nothing but positive edits the last 3-4 episodes, the way it's being shown.

So what I think is, ultimately Randall will win the final task, as expected, but both him and Rebecca do extremely good jobs on the task, so Trump gives Randall the first choice for what he wants to do, and Rebecca gets hired as well, at whatever task Randall doesn't take...

But that's just my guess.

So I think he hires both...he's had a ton of double firings this season, so why not a double hiring to finish it off?
Judging from the poor ratings in this season, I wouldn't be surprised if this was the last Apprentice for a while. Trump should stock up on as many Apprentices as he can.

BTW, I wonder what happened to Katrina from last season. Both Bill and Kelly have been on the show, but not her.

[dmdsoftware2]

Judging from the poor ratings in this season, I wouldn't be surprised if this was the last Apprentice for a while. Trump should stock up on as many Apprentices as he can.

BTW, I wonder what happened to Katrina from last season. Both Bill and Kelly have been on the show, but not her.

Maybe he's keeping her in a closet as a play toy.

[sankou]

Judging from the poor ratings in this season, I wouldn't be surprised if this was the last Apprentice for a while. Trump should stock up on as many Apprentices as he can.

well, the olympics are coming up, so the apprentice won't be back till after the games. but there will be another edition of the apprentice, but it will be aired during a different time slot on wednesday nights. nbc will be revamping their thursday night lineup with will and grace, my name is earl, four kings (a new comedy with seth green) and the book of daniel (a new drama).

[Rometiklan]

lol so who's your pick for the winner? Does anyone think Rebecca can win?

I'm sick of these "twists", I would have liked to see Alla in the finals...you just knew when Trump told her to sit he was going to fire her...

I would have liked to have seen all three - Randall, Rebecca, and Alla - go into the finals in a three way competition. The logistics of editting all 3 projects and condensing it into an hour probably would have been a nightmare unless they made the finale a 2 hour show. Caroline, George, and Bill could have overseen the 3 projects.

[Bachelor]

I also read somewhere that the next Apprentice is moving to Hollywood (I think that means L.A.). Trump has run out of interesting rewards in New York, so he needs to freshen things up for the show.

[mochachicka]

BTW, I wonder what happened to Katrina from last season. Both Bill and Kelly have been on the show, but not her.

Wasn't her name Kendra?

[felix]

They were probably still shooting this season before Kendra was hired.

[Bordello]

Wasn't her name Kendra?
Maybe. All I remember from that season was the nutjob that she was competing with in the final task.

[alkapone]

Honestly, I was wondering, "Hey, Napoleon Dynamite is her boyfriend???" :lol:

They had absolutely no chemistry together, Rebecca's face when she saw him was like "oh sh*t.....you're here....*sigh*"

I bet their parents set them up or something...

Rebecca is not a warm person.......seems very private. Never sure what she is thinking....or not.......but there is something about her that drives men WILD.


She says her BF loves her no matter what. I love her no matter what..BUT SHE DOESNT LOVE ME.:cry:

[eliteblaze]

doesn't this mean the horses were effective. That or their team's esl workers were 6 times better somehow

While it was Adam's suggestion to go with the horse & cart wraps, he was not PM so the decision to go with it or deep-6 it was Ala's to make. They realized that having a street team was the win-it-or-lose it difference in this task so it was poor management to go ahead with allocating so much of the budget towards inanimate advertising.

However, it was Adam's time..

Btw, if he thought about it, Trump must have been disappointed in the winning team - their 60 people got only 5 more signups than the other team's 15. AND they had megaphones. And their team of temps appeared to be more 'with it'. The losing team's 'sandwhich board' wraps looked cheap, tacky, and as Princess said (about the carriages) "I would have been embarrassed to be Shania and seen that representing me" (or something to that effect). Ditto that.

PS.. Shania.. yummy!

[eliteblaze]

Rebecca is yummy.

Rebecca is not a warm person.......seems very private. Never sure what she is thinking....or not.......but there is something about her that drives men WILD.


She says her BF loves her no matter what. I love her no matter what..BUT SHE DOESNT LOVE ME.:cry:

[tonychau]

is tonight the finale??? 2-3 hours???

Sunday???

[felix]

Yup, looks like tonight is the season finale. Same 9-10pm time slot. I think it's a 1 hour finale.

[acb82]

Yup, looks like tonight is the season finale. Same 9-10pm time slot. I think it's a 1 hour finale.I doubt it, usually Trump introduces the final task which usually consists of organizing a couple of big events etc. At the end of the episode we see things going wrong leaving you thinking how in the hell are they going to pull it off!? Then the next week there will probably be a 2 hour live finale with Regis as the host or something and then we'll see how well the events ran, who gets hired etc.

[Wildfire]

Yup, looks like tonight is the season finale. Same 9-10pm time slot. I think it's a 1 hour finale.

NEW YORK – December 7, 2005 – Randal, a Rhodes Scholar and Rebecca, a financial journalist begin their final mission on NBC's "The Apprentice," (Thurs., Dec. 8, 9-10 pm ET/PT). Donald Trump issues the final two tasks, which will ensue over the next two episodes beginning this week and resulting in the ultimate boardroom hiring of the fourth "Apprentice" on December 15 broadcasting live from Lincoln Center (9-11pm ET).

Finale is Next Week.

[mike_leafs13]

I doubt it, usually Trump introduces the final task which usually consists of organizing a couple of big events etc. At the end of the episode we see things going wrong leaving you thinking how in the hell are they going to pull it off!? Then the next week there will probably be a 2 hour live finale with Regis as the host or something and then we'll see how well the events ran, who gets hired etc.

yep, this episode they'll probably just pick the teams and start the task. you could probably bet that markus will be back. markus will probably be the one that messes it up before the show cuts off and says "to be continued".

[Imagine]

Its a no brainer , Randall will win hands down .

[jerryhussain]

Did anybody else think Randal was setting himself up for a big loss, Rebecca looked the best in this task and it was the complete opposite for Randal.

Lets see how the finale turns out. :twisted:

[Chookman]

Randal is getting the bad edit. Looks like Trump has pre-chosen Rebecca and they are editing the footage to support Trump's decision.

[north77]

Randal is getting the bad edit. Looks like Trump has pre-chosen Rebecca and they are editing the footage to support Trump's decision.

I agree Randal is getting the bad edit.. what was with the clunky cartoon music when everyone was in the party suplies store. :razz:

HAHAHA Well 2 major potential fiascos being set up... interesting :-0
Union my ass! :twisted:

[Bordello]

Rain in the forecast. Let's see how everything pans out for Randall's little outdoor event. Then again, it could be a lame stunt by the producers to attract interest for next week.

Rebecca made Randall look like a complete pushover when they were chosing the teams.

[felix]

Oops, thought the season finale was today. Guess not. :(

[Mgz]

Oops, thought the season finale was today. Guess not. :(

owned

meow :razz:


I like them both :((((

let's hope that Trump hire BOTH of them :((((

[PocketRockets]

Randal is clearly a smarter person than Rebecca, he should definitely win. I think the show is set up on purpose with Piscopo dropping out at the last second, etc. They either want more viewers, or want to see how the candidates handle the situation.

It's a great show though, nonetheless.

[trek_junkie]

Rebecca seems to be doing better thus far. Randall made some errors in wasting too much time in the supplies store and not delegating effectively. If Rebecca handles the host cancellation well, she has a chance to win.

[alkapone]

Maybe Carolyn wants someone like Rebecca to mentor....all the picks have been guys........time to make a female look good.......and SHE is looookin
good. :)

[Bordello]

Maybe Carolyn wants someone like Rebecca to mentor....all the picks have been guys........time to make a female look good.......and SHE is looookin
good. :)
The winner from last season was a female. She was quite the looker too.

[Imagine]

owned


let's hope that Trump hire BOTH of them :((((
thats what is likely is going to happen , since they had multiple firings at once . Mark Burnett likes to add a new twist to his shows and the Donald appears to be impressed by both Randall and Rebecca .

[alkapone]

The winner from last season was a female. She was quite the looker too.

Who was that....thought it was a guy??

[Imagine]

Who was that....thought it was a guy??
it was Kendra , a young brash blonde who was nothing to look at , Rebecca is way more attractive and classier .

[jc427]

yeah, it seems like both of them had their share of problems... but it did seem like randall made more mistakes in decision making... but nonetheless, i do agree that trump should hire both of them..... usually in the second to last episode, there's usually a clear winner by now... but since there still isnt, it's a really hard choice... and i hope he can hire them both......

randall has the better track record, but rebecca seems to be doing fairly well on her own... and she's been going through almost the entire process with a broken ankle... so she's tough.... and trump like that.....

so i dunno... really excited to see what the final outcome is... although i have an exam the following day... i don't care... watching with my books in front of me... lol

JC

[tonychau]

would you be surprise if Trump hires both at the end???

Now, Rebecca is more better in execute her plan.

Would there be rain on Randall event???

I don't understand why would Joe the MC is quiting Rebecca now... Trump did mentioned it's his fund raising event. :confused: :confused:

[MrDisco]

i hope he hires both of them.

[Rometiklan]

Some thoughts about this week's episode:

-Randall had a couple of weak moments, especially during the team selection. Initially, he actually selected Josh, James, and Mark. Then he flip-flopped and asked for Chris when Rebecca said she wanted Josh, James, and Chris, because he realized Chris was probably a strong candidate.

-Rebecca also had a moment of pause when she selected Toral. When asked if she was sure, she had to think about it for a second before actually committing to Toral. While anyone might pause at the prospect of selecting Toral, to me, it just seemed like a moment of indecision that seemed weak. And she selected Toral out of loyalty, a trait that Trump admires, but it's a decision of the heart, not a business one. Carolyn was shaking her head when Rebecca said "Toral". Her selection of Toral may come back to bite her in the ass.

-Landing Chris was a coup for Rebecca, albeit through a coin flip. I think Chris may be strong enough to redeem Toral's deficiencies. If Rebecca wins, Chris will have a huge part in it, no doubt.

-What was the whole point of sending the whole team into the party-supply store to gather supplies? That was piss-poor planning and delegation on Randall's part. It just seemed like such a painfully slow and tedious waste of time, and manpower.

-Does it seem fair that Randall is in charge of an event that may be spoiled by rain? It may just be the roll of the dice, but the forces of nature won't really affect Rebecca's event. To me, I think they should have let a random draw determine which event should go to whom, instead of having them pre-determined.

-George and Carolyn are pretty good with the chopsticks for gwai lo's. :D

-Too bad Markus didn't come back. That guy's antics is pure gold. HahA! :D

[alkapone]

Too bad Markus didn't come back. That guy's antics is pure gold. HahA! [........]

A little Markus goes a long long way. Maybe as an observer.

[jerryhussain]

-Does it seem fair that Randall is in charge of an event that may be spoiled by rain? It may just be the roll of the dice, but the forces of nature won't really affect Rebecca's event. To me, I think they should have let a random draw determine which event should go to whom, instead of having them pre-determined.
Good point! They could do it in the next season.

In the UK version of the Apprentice, the final task was same for both candidates; create and host a promotional party on a boat. All they had to fight over was to negotiate which boat they wanted. In the end it was pretty even, they couldnt blame x or y for their success/loss.

[Imagine]

Already Trump rejected Kwame at the final 2 , if he doesnt pick Randal it will label him as a racist . Randall is definately the shoe-in , but Trump will hire both .

[RenegadeX]

Joe Piscopo said "hey if there's a charity event then I've got a tux for it" - indicating that he often does charity events. So why all of a sudden is the Union not allowing him to emcee the event? He's been through it a hundred times before..

Ah, Trump is just turning up the heat on Rebecca to see if she can handle the pressure.. and to see how smart she is. If JoPi is a no-show, I'd be floored..

As for Randall - he hasn't impressed me at all all season. No doubt he's a very bright guy, but he does not come across as someone who wants to own a decision. Remember the poster he made for Seal? (haha.. I forget the singer's name, but you know who I mean). He was made to change the photo on that, and even then out of all the photos he could have used, the poster still sucked, and then he didn't even get the radio station's name right, so double-faux-pas there. Also remember when Rebecca said they were going to buy the other team's megaphones? Rebecca said let's do it, but Randall looked like a little kid who had his hand in the cookie jar but was afraid to take anything in case he got busted..

Having said that, there's 2 things wrong with Rebecca:
1) why does she have so much faith in Toral, even after Toral refused to step up once before? (I would love it if she makes Toral wear a costume next week).
2) why are her ankles taking so damn long to heal?

Give the girl some milk!

[felix]

Why is everyone so confident both will be hired. Is it in the spoilers??

[RenegadeX]

.. and is it just me or did the avatars on RFD just get corrupted?
In Firefox AND IE they are dispalying all scrambled...

[felix]

2) why are her ankles taking so damn long to heal?

Give the girl some milk!
LOL ... I don't know how long it usually takes a broken ankle to heal .. but keep in mind it's not really a 16 week long interview process but 1 week = 2-3 days or so I've read before.

.. and is it just me or did the avatars on RFD just get corrupted?
In Firefox AND IE they are dispalying all scrambled...
Appears ok to me. Probably due to server upgrades from yesterday.

[RenegadeX]

Btw, I too think Trump will hire both.

But personally, I'd hire Rebecca over Randall in an instant.
Randall = chaos, confusion, bumbling
Rebecca = confidence, "can-do", organization, creative thinking and results.

[Imagine]

Why is everyone so confident both will be hired. Is it in the spoilers??
yes

[alkapone]

yes


It is??

[Mgz]

2) why are her ankles taking so damn long to heal?

Give the girl some milk!

milk is bad for her shape :cry:

[Madcatmk2]

I think Trump likes Randal for his experience and Rebecca because he sees his younger (inexperienced, tough) self in her. I also think he will pick Randal because he'll cost less to incorporate into his company.
But the final tasks could change things. Maybe to test Randal to listen to what his clients want and Rebecca to be more flexible. Thinking that both are rigged to test that and bad events management.


If what Wildfire says comes true (first choice part) i hope Rebecca will not let herself seconded and quit.

[felix]

bump for second part of season finale tonight ..

[Imagine]

both Randy and Becky will be hired , Donny has multiple projects lined up for 2006 and needs extra help.

[RenegadeX]

Hey I was thinking about the Joe Piscopo thing -
he said earlier he does plenty of charity event emcee'ing, so I was surprised that all of a sudden his union was kicking up a fuss/blocking him from working this event.

The one difference is that he's on The Apprentice, on tv.

Not quite sure how acting unions work, but would it possibly be something like they don't want him appearing on multiple episodes of Trump's TV show if he's not getting paid for it? Cos the union will want their cut of the profits of the show, right?

[GemInite]

Hey I was thinking about the Joe Piscopo thing -
he said earlier he does plenty of charity event emcee'ing, so I was surprised that all of a sudden his union was kicking up a fuss/blocking him from working this event.

The one difference is that he's on The Apprentice, on tv.

Not quite sure how acting unions work, but would it possibly be something like they don't want him appearing on multiple episodes of Trump's TV show if he's not getting paid for it? Cos the union will want their cut of the profits of the show, right?

well depends what union. Say hes in actra, actra porbably considers this a "show" which it is since it is being broadcast. For Joe Piscopo to be eligible to perofrm then apprentice would have to be an ACTRA show, which is impossible considering it is a reality tv show series.

Now people in actor unions are allowed to do speaking events but as you stated most of them are not broadcast in any form.

It's not just about the profits, its really more about their stupid rules.

[tonychau]

shhh.... this will be a spoiler in the union show...

VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV
The susprise shocker is Mr. Trump will hire all 18 contestants! ;)
Assign Project works for Ms. America 2006, taking care of his newborn 2006 and work on Martha shows.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

:D :D

I hope so!! Enjoy tonight everybody!!
I am big fan of Rebecca!!! Good luck and kills some Yahoo a$s.
I could not believe Yahoooooo is run by women team. :confused:

both Randy and Becky will be hired , Donny has multiple projects lined up for 2006 and needs extra help.

[RW99]

Her webpage is finally up :

http://www.rebeccajarvis.com/

[alkapone]

Her eyebrows sweep too high....looks strange.

[felix]

Do all you guys read up on spoilers???

[sg1138]

Man Toral was lookin mighty fine tonight!!!

[Spiderpal93]

Hire both!!!! Hire both!!!

[alkapone]

Allah has it in for Rebecca...doesnt make sense.. :confused:

[yatko]

I picked mine. It is Rebecca. She is always positive and well balanced. Never said anything bad about the guy and guy (out of panic) start bad mouthing about the girl already. She is 23 but scares me (I am older than her) since she has so much energy and professionalism in her.

[sg1138]

dam where's omarosa. she was a hawtie!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[yatko]

selfish mfkr. didn't let Rebecca get hired as well. Trump was offering Rebecca a job. This girl has potential though, she will be on screen a lot from now on.

[sg1138]

damn he was given the opportunity to hire rebecca but he said no because the show ain't about the "apprentai"
LOL

[napasah]

oh wow, i can't believe Randy said that Trump should only hire one person today even though it seems kinda obvious that both were going to be hired to run the two separate projects

[sg1138]

selfish mfkr. didn't let Rebecca get hired as well.

I KNOW!!!

[alkapone]

Right choice.....Randall has incredible biz background.

[RenegadeX]

http://www.realitycenter.eti.br/app4_pics/randal.jpg

Sorry, but what a F***'ing DICK.

After he was given the job, Trump gave him the opportunity to convince him to hire Rebecca as well and he says
"I am the ONE apprentice.. this is not about apprentii".

If I was Trump, I would have said "that's surprising. You know I've changed my mind.." :twisted:

[alkapone]

http://www.realitycenter.eti.br/app4_pics/randal.jpg

Sorry, but what a F***'ing DICK.

Had the opportunity to convince Trump to hire Rebecca and he says
"I am the ONE apprentice.. this is not about apprentii".

If I was Trump, I would have said "that's surprising. You know I've changed my mind.." :twisted:

I thought he was going to say..." If I could I would hire her"

[Ryan]

OH SNAP! (Always wanted to say that)

[darren9]

I think Randall is going to be portrayed as a selfish prick by the media.

[sg1138]

what a fcking asswipe

[cheukiecfu]

http://www.realitycenter.eti.br/app4_pics/randal.jpg

Sorry, but what a F***'ing DICK.

After he was given the job, Trump gave him the opportunity to convince him to hire Rebecca as well and he says
"I am the ONE apprentice.. this is not about apprentii".

If I was Trump, I would have said "that's surprising. You know I've changed my mind.." :twisted:holy ****....
what a dick... he stabbed rebecca... cmon.. just give her a chance... he's already hired!
i think it was probably his revenge of rebecca attacking him in several boardroom meetings..

[PrimoTurbo]

Randal should be fired.

[Bordello]

OK, that ending made me want to go out and run over Randall with my car, and the same for Trump. If I were Trump, I would have fired Randall right there on the spot and hired Rebecca instead. That just showed how selfish and conieving Randall is. He didn't want to share the spotlight with someone, who imho, is much classier and just as qualified as he is.

After an MIT and Oxford education, and he got "apprenti"? Lame.

[chadder]

Haha, that was hilarious. I can sorta see where he's coming from in terms of how he dominated and didn't really want to share in the win when he was clearly the better candidate. He's got some balls to come out and say that on TV though.

[Madcatmk2]

Well, next time he doesn't have a plan B he's dead. I hope he knows this.

[lip1978]

He said she shouldn't be hired "tonight", not that she shouldn't be hired. He wanted the spotlight after 13 weeks, and probably deserved it. Beccy will get hired along with Randal, everyone knew it with 20 minutes left in the show.

[z0z0]

Randall was a first class DICK.

Geez I think everyone will say that.

There were two projects - each one could have taken care of one. Randall would have really looked like a great leader. Now he looks like a dick - I guess I can't say that enough!

Dick dick dick

Biggus Dickus

[NDman]

"Wow!" Exactly what I (Rebecca too, obviously) was thinking when Randall said that.

I think Rebecca over-did the final boardroom. Some of the stuff sounded very scripted as if she practiced many many times. I thought she scored really well in the first taped boardroom. Amazing finish. I guess Randall figured out that he needed to show some ego and toughness in the live scene.

Alla was an absolute b****

[mochachicka]

wow..poor Rebecca, she was so close to being hired as well and Randall went and demolished that chance. Did you see her expression when he made his speech about there being only one apprentice? So since Trump didn't hire Rebecca as well...where was that "final big twist" that was mentioned in the commercial?

[podgerkev]

It was a total a**hole move on Randal's part...

And what's with that Alla chick she's so friggin annoying in her hatred of Rebecca... I was actually rooting for Randal until she spoke.

[mike_leafs13]

it seems as though trump was already planning on hiring the both of them, why didn't he just do it? why did he hire randal, then ask if he should hire rebecca also?

i think trump was expecting randal to say yes. trump was really caught off guard with that one.

he's probably gonna hire her anyways, why would randal create bad blood?

trump was going to hire her. the only thing stopping him was randal. that must hurt for rebecca.

[NDman]

Gotta love how George and Trump put Yahoo on the spot that they ended up making a high profile donation. That was funny

[NDman]

Gotta love how George and Trump put Yahoo on the spot that they ended up making a high profile donation. That was funny

Rebecca will get the other job, likely the NJ Trump tower one no doubt. Trump likes her too much to let her go, I think

[jerryhussain]

I would have hired Rebecca without any shadow of doubt. I didnt arrive at that choice after Randal opinion on how he didnt want to share the title.

Anyway when the final tasks were done, it was clear that Rebecca managed and had a more successful event. Randal looked very weak (didnt delegate at all, didnt manage relations with clients very well and on and on). Randal today is basically the Randal on Day 1. On the other hand Rebecca showed a phenomenal improvement over this season, I didnt think Rebecca had the slightest chance against Randal but she proved herself quite eloquently. I dont think she was as fazed as Randal and had the "spark" in her.

The only thing amazing about Randal to me is that he has unparalleled education but beyond that I am not quite sure if he has the enterprenurial skills. All the people who speak highly of him are overawed by his education. Atleast thats what I feel. Rebecca started a non-profit org and raised $750,000 when she was 15, wow ! :eek:

Anyway I was rooting for Randal when the finale began and changed my mind one hour into the finale. Randal's opinion at the end wasnt shocking though. ;)

edit: Alla's fumes were quite visible. You got owned Alla, you can trap any other millionaire now. :lol:

[Dash]

well, that was a really cold thing, but he does have a point. It really is the apprentice, and he deserved that sole title. I don't think it was fair for Trump to put Randall on the spot to make that decision. If he wanted to hire two of them, then hire two. Randall as the apprentice, and Rebecca as just a general hire.

On another note, maybe Randall had some bets on it? or...Maybe he tried to get a piece, and Rebecca wouldn't give it up, so this is his revenge.

[Bordello]

So what if there's two Apprentices? Would it take anything away from Randall? He already has the satisfaction of being hired first. Agreeing to hire Rebecca would exemplify his classiness. Instead, he went with being self-centered and greedy. I hope he gets blasted by the media for this. It just goes to show you that education doesn't make you a better person.

I know that I won't be watching this suck-fest next season, if there is one.

[z0z0]

On another note, maybe Randall had some bets on it? or...Maybe he tried to get a piece, and Rebecca wouldn't give it up, so this is his revenge.

Ha ha ha - she did not want to see how big a dick he has so he showed her how big a dick he could be - ha ha ha

[jc427]

I think she should've hired rebecca.....

through the last half hr... trump only complemented randall on his education... whereas he had really good things to say 'bout rebecca....

also, if he hired rebecca, she probably would've told trump to hire randall as well....

everyone liked randall cause he's a nice guy.. and how he does this... so when ppl interview him for the show, they're gonna ask why he didn't tell trump to hire rebecca as well.. and all he has to say is that it should only be one person.... but that has nothing to do with rebecca's capabilities....

i'm sure trump doesn't like that..... that's the reason why he asked him.... he had the intentions to hire rebecca as well obviously... but he just wanted randall's opinion as well...

oh well.... i still don't like randall for it...

JC

[Imagine]

Actually on second thought , I kinda admire Randall for not wimping out as sole survivor , unlike the dimwits on "Survivor" the men are too mushy and easily give up one million dollars to the women.

All Randall has to do now is trade in his old wife , for a blonde trophy wife.

[z0z0]

Actually on second thought , I kinda admire Randall for not wimping out as sole survivor , unlike the dimwits on "Survivor" the men are too mushy and easily give up one million dollars to the women.

All Randall has to do now is trade in his old wife , for a blonde trophy wife.

What would Randall have lost?

They both would have had a job.
They both would have had a project.

Randall would have looked super cool and super confident.
Shoot even Trump wanted her.

[RenegadeX]

Imagine:
On Survivor, the situation was 'either you get a truck, or you can decline, in which case everyone else gets one'.

Hey, look out for #1 first, take the truck! This is a game and giving someone a truck isn't going to stop them from keeping you from the million!

But in Randall's case, #1 was taken care of. He didn't have to give up any money, or his prize (the apprenticeship/job) - it was already in the bag.

Anyhow, my problem is with the words & attitude he chose.
He could have said:
"Mr. Trump, Rebecca was a great competitor and has a lot going for her, but you clearly chose me because I have more to offer you than her. I'm sure as much as Rebecca would love to be in my seat right now, she will use this fantastic Apprentice experience to her benefit and no doubt will go on to do great things. I wish her luck, Mr. Trump, but my answer is 'no'.

But of course, what he said was on the opposite end of the spectrum!
Randall may have one of the best educations in the world, but they forgot to teach him a few things..

[spike-spiegel]

I think Randal emphasized more on the "tonight" when he said. I can understand why he said it though. Randal just thought it should one hiring for the show, not two.

When Trump asked him, he paused to think and that's probably the first thing that came into mind. Plus a little revenge doesn't hurt. I don't think Randel is a big of dick as he sounded, Rebecca would get her chance. Poor her though, she had to act not disappointed.

[ferkel]

Five degress doesn't mean a person has common sense or class. Hahaha.. Makes for exciting tv tho.

[Brian2k1]

I understand his point, however still disagree with his decision. Randall could have easily played to both tunes. He should have agreed to hire Rebecca so long as he gets to keep the title of apprentice of course with a smile. He could have had the glory of apprentice, and the graciousness of a winner.

[Chookman]

Anyway when the final tasks were done, it was clear that Rebecca managed and had a more successful event. Randal looked very weak (didnt delegate at all, didnt manage relations with clients very well and on and on).

This is what is the beauty of his management style. He lets his employees think for themselves and trusts in them to perform. He also realized what the final task was about - raising money for charity. She totally blew the final task by not even focussing on the charity.

The only thing amazing about Randal to me is that he has unparalleled education but beyond that I am not quite sure if he has the enterprenurial skills. All the people who speak highly of him are overawed by his education. Atleast thats what I feel.

This is so off the mark. His entrepreneurial skills dwarf hers. His track record prior to entering this show demonstrates that he has formed 5 successful companies and his most recent one is a multi-million dollar venture. He is a true rarity. He's an intellectual who also has people skills and work ethic. She is excellent - especially for her age - but she's not even in the same league as him.

He also completely destroyed her in the final interview when it counted most. He pointed out the important things. He won more times as a leader. He won more times as a follower. She was traded away while he was always a first pick. She kept going on about her loyalty and could not even say anything negative about him without being way off the mark. She had the nerve to try to tell Trump something to the effect that Randall couldn't manage to accomplish what was truly required of the task yet she couldn't figure out that the final tasks were about charity and not about nice Martinis.

By dropping the hammer on her, Randal has set himself up to be a big player in the Trump organization. He's just proven that he can put aside feelings and all the external pressure and make the tough decision when needed. That was a gutsy thing Randal did and in the long run, I think it'll pay off in spades.

[spy cl]

before that I love Randal, but now, I absolutely have NO respect on Randal... sigh... poor Rebbecca...

ALSO.. Donald Trump was really bad, he should not let Randal making that kind decision, IF HE WANNA HIRE, HIRE THEM BOTH AT THE SAME TIME!!!

what the hell asking Randal for, and Randal's answer really disappointed me

[jraja]

Randal was a jerk at the end, Rebecca should have got the other position.

[Bordello]

Five degress doesn't mean a person has common sense or class.
Or be able to put sentences together without using cliches or buzzwords.

Contrary to what Randall thinks, Rebecca truly deserved to be hired just as much as he did. She performed better on the final task, where it counts. Her event was much more organized, whereas Randall's consisted of throwing a whole bunch of people together in a room and labelling it as a charity auction. Calling Rebecca out for not getting any donations is ridiculous. People don't like to be pressured to donate to charities. Sending them home with phamplets so they could make their decision on their own time is a great idea. I'm sure they've received a ton of money as a result. Plus Yahoo! probably donated hundreds of thousands of dollars by itself. Randall's measly $11k is chump change when it comes to a big celebrity charity event. And the weather thing, that's just bad decision-making on his part.

Rebecca was also much classier in the boardroom. Randall liked to bring up his education whenever possible, and he also liked to put Rebecca down. She did not say one negative thing about him (I can give an entire list, so him being flawless is not the reason). She has to be the most mature 23 year old I've ever seen. Plus, Trump seemed to praise Rebecca alot about herself as a person and her qualities. Randall, on the other hand, only got the nods for having a good education.

Anyways, the audience seemed really obnoxious this season. Randall thinks he got the most support, when instead he probably dragged his entire family to the event, since they're not far from NY. I found it pretty funny at the end how Trump had to yell at the top of his lungs to get Randall to calm his ass down and end the self-congratulatory celebration.

In closing, Randall is an egocentric SOB.

[cheukiecfu]

i do agree trump hires randall.. actually they are both very good candidates...
but rebecca kinda missed the pt of the last task there... and rebecca couldn't really pin point why she is better than randal...
she could have elaborated more on how education doesn't coorelate to the actual performance in the real world.. and says randall didn't instruct the team.. randall didn't have plan B.. and he overlooks smaller details (weather forecast, typo mistake in the XM radio poster..)
what randall said during the night was really to the pt.. "she lacks the experience..", "she writes business, i RUN business..", etc..
it would be perfect if randall dis about her strongest strength.. how too much loyalty, trusting the wrong person can lead to disaster.. and rebecca does not make good decision on that...

[Imagine]

Or be able to put sentences together without using cliches or buzzwords.

Contrary to what Randall thinks, Rebecca truly deserved to be hired just as much as he did. She performed better on the final task, where it counts. Her event was much more organized, whereas Randall's consisted of throwing a whole bunch of people together in a room and labelling it as a charity auction. Calling Rebecca out for not getting any donations is ridiculous. People don't like to be pressured to donate to charities. Sending them home with phamplets so they could make their decision on their own time is a great idea. I'm sure they've received a ton of money as a result. Plus Yahoo! probably donated hundreds of thousands of dollars by itself. Randall's measly $11k is chump change when it comes to a big celebrity charity event. And the weather thing, that's just bad decision-making on his part.

Rebecca was also much classier in the boardroom. Randall liked to bring up his education whenever possible, and he also liked to put Rebecca down. She did not say one negative thing about him (I can give an entire list, so him being flawless is not the reason). She has to be the most mature 23 year old I've ever seen. Plus, Trump seemed to praise Rebecca alot about herself as a person and her qualities. Randall, on the other hand, only got the nods for having a good education.

Anyways, the audience seemed really obnoxious this season. Randall thinks he got the most support, when instead he probably dragged his entire family to the event, since they're not far from NY. I found it pretty funny at the end how Trump had to yell at the top of his lungs to get Randall to calm his ass down and end the self-congratulatory celebration.

In closing, Randall is an egocentric SOB.
Much like his new boss , Donald Trump .

[mingming]

In the end, it is not Randall's decision whether or not to have Rebecca work on the Jersey project. If Trump really wanted her, he would hire her, but outside the show.

I can kind of agree with randall, the show is "The Apprentice". There is only and should only be 1 winner. It's not "survivorS", "american idolS". So he made a choice. Yes, it was kind of mean to Rebecca, but thats business, thats life.

[Imagine]

Imagine:
On Survivor, the situation was 'either you get a truck, or you can decline, in which case everyone else gets one'.

Hey, look out for #1 first, take the truck! This is a game and giving someone a truck isn't going to stop them from keeping you from the million!

But in Randall's case, #1 was taken care of. He didn't have to give up any money, or his prize (the apprenticeship/job) - it was already in the bag.

Anyhow, my problem is with the words & attitude he chose.
He could have said:
"Mr. Trump, Rebecca was a great competitor and has a lot going for her, but you clearly chose me because I have more to offer you than her. I'm sure as much as Rebecca would love to be in my seat right now, she will use this fantastic Apprentice experience to her benefit and no doubt will go on to do great things. I wish her luck, Mr. Trump, but my answer is 'no'.

But of course, what he said was on the opposite end of the spectrum!
Randall may have one of the best educations in the world, but they forgot to teach him a few things..
I bet if Omarosa or LaShauna was sitting with him in the final two , Randall would of shared the title of Apprentice .

[spike-spiegel]

Rebecca was also much classier in the boardroom. Randall liked to bring up his education whenever possible, and he also liked to put Rebecca down. She did not say one negative thing about him (I can give an entire list, so him being flawless is not the reason). She has to be the most mature 23 year old I've ever seen. Plus, Trump seemed to praise Rebecca alot about herself as a person and her qualities. Randall, on the other hand, only got the nods for having a good education.

What about the last part she said about Randal overthinks and misses some points when she couldn't figure anything else to say?

Everyone and Trump seems to like Rebecca for her toughness and way to handle pressure. But her success during the whole show wasn't too good.

[Bordello]

I can kind of agree with randall, the show is "The Apprentice". There is only and should only be 1 winner. It's not "survivorS", "american idolS". So he made a choice. Yes, it was kind of mean to Rebecca, but thats business, thats life.
Apprentice/apprenti, what difference does it make? It's all just rhetorics. Does Randall lose anything in the end if Rebecca is hired? No. He's already hired. He got the honour of being Trump's first choice. By rejecting Rebecca, he's going to be chastized by the media as being self-centered and having no class. People have short attention spans (who here remembers the name of the Apprentice from last season?). They're not going to remember that Trump hired an additional apprentice, but they will remember this cheap stunt that Randall pulled. In the end, it's going to reflect negatively on him and Trump. He killed his credibility in many people's eyes.

[Madcatmk2]

In the end, it is not Randall's decision whether or not to have Rebecca work on the Jersey project. If Trump really wanted her, he would hire her, but outside the show.

If Trump does this you can say bye bye to Rebecca's loyalty.
I really hopes he teach him how to have a multiple plans. There is no do/die switch in business unless you only have one plan.

[RenegadeX]

^^^^^ Imagine: I noticed in the Randal's "I own 5 businesses" background scene that he doesn't seem to believe in *ahem* employee diversity..

[spy cl]

100% agree, Ranal is DOA and I predict he will not be that successful in the next few year, simply because ppl don't respect him!!!, if he has said Rebbecca should or can be hired too, he will be VERY, i mean VERY successful in his career.

Apprentice/apprenti, what difference does it make? It's all just rhetorics. Does Randall lose anything in the end if Rebecca is hired? No. He's already hired. He got the honour of being Trump's first choice. By rejecting Rebecca, he's going to be chastized by the media as being self-centered and having no class. People have short attention spans (who here remembers the name of the Apprentice from last season?). They're not going to remember that Trump hired an additional apprentice, but they will remember this cheap stunt that Randall pulled. In the end, it's going to reflect negatively on him and Trump. He killed his credibility in many people's eyes.

[Bordello]

What about the last part she said about Randal overthinks and misses some points when she couldn't figure anything else to say?
Since Trump asked her why she should be hired over Randall, she had to say something. It's a perfectly valid point. Randall, on the other hand, liked to point out her weakness at every possible moment. Rebecca took all this criticism graciously, whereas Randall tended to interrupt her and looked like his appendix just burst whenever she's talking. That doesn't show that he's strong, it just shows that he's defensive and can't take criticism very well. Rebecca has demonstrated that she's strong, so good on her for taking the high road.


Everyone and Trump seems to like Rebecca for her toughness and way to handle pressure. But her success during the whole show wasn't too good.
There's a lot more to winning or losing the task than just the project manager. The teams have alot to do with it to. Anyways, she did better than Randall on the final event, that's all there is to it.

[cheukiecfu]

100% agree, Ranal is DOA and I predict he will not be that successful in the next few year, simply because ppl don't respect him!!!, if he has said Rebbecca should or can be hired too, he will be VERY, i mean VERY successful in his career.in the long run, pplz will not judge him based on that little trick he did on rebecca...
if i am a hiring manager, i wouldn't not hire randal bcuz of that cheap action he did... he is a very strong person overall.. definitely a great staff that can bring an impact to the organization..
he has the gut.. he shows that he is mean to competitor.. and that's the right thing to do in the BUSINESS world.. it's not about what you will lose.. it's about the fame you get for being the sole winner...

[mingming]

"I firmly believe this is `The Apprentice,"' Pinkett replied. "That there is one and only `Apprentice' and if you're going to hire someone tonight, it should be one."

If thats what he TRULY meant, then it shouldnt be a problem.

Tonight, there should be only 1 hiring, he did NOT say he should not hire her, just not tonight. It's too bad it will be attacked repeatedly for the next few days.

But Trump makes the final decision anyways. Why would he ask a junior employee who has just been hired for 20 seconds whether or not to hire someone?

[Mgz]

GO Allah!!!

Once a bi tch, always a bi tch!!!!!!1 :razz:



edit: Alla's fumes were quite visible. You got owned Alla, you can trap any other millionaire now. :lol:


u mean BILLIONAIRE :cheesygri '


I was rooting for BOTH randal and rebecca (since the task that she lost, let Toral go and fight her way back at the boardroom,)..but after today... randal.. what a jackass :twisted:

[Wildfire]

If what Wildfire says comes true (first choice part) i hope Rebecca will not let herself seconded and quit.

Well, it would have been right, had Randall not totally ruined Trump's "big surprise".

Oh man, I can't believe he did that, lol, it was so obvious Trump was planning on hiring both, so here he is setting it all up, for a Kodak moment, fishing for compliments about Rebecca from Randall and then asking Randall if Rebecca should be hired as well, and then he's like "NO! NO! NO! it's all mine! I refuse to share!" haha, you can see Randall really hates losing the spotlight doesn't he?

The only thing bigger than his ego, is his nose.

[jerryhussain]

This is what is the beauty of his management style. He lets his employees think for themselves and trusts in them to perform. He also realized what the final task was about - raising money for charity. She totally blew the final task by not even focussing on the charity.
Beaty of management. lol, nice twist. ;) Even (whiny) Josh was acknowledging Randal's poor decisions (during and after) the task. As for Rebecca not raising money, her event was more about "awareness" and less about "raising money". (It wasnt like Randal's task which involved direct contribution like the auction)

Either way it wasnt a huge point as Randal not having a contingency plan and or not showcasing the celebrities present at the event.



This is so off the mark. His entrepreneurial skills dwarf hers. His track record prior to entering this show demonstrates that he has formed 5 successful companies and his most recent one is a multi-million dollar venture. He is a true rarity. He's an intellectual who also has people skills and work ethic. She is excellent - especially for her age - but she's not even in the same league as him.
I dont have a deep background information about Randal's enterpreneurial skills, going off of what I saw on TV. And Randal didnt look "good". Small scale consulting firm (jointly formed with friends).

He also completely destroyed her in the final interview when it counted most. He pointed out the important things. He won more times as a leader. He won more times as a follower. She was traded away while he was always a first pick. She kept going on about her loyalty and could not even say anything negative about him without being way off the mark. She had the nerve to try to tell Trump something to the effect that Randall couldn't manage to accomplish what was truly required of the task yet she couldn't figure out that the final tasks were about charity and not about nice Martinis.
Completely destroyed by speaking so fast that nobody could make out what he is saying? :lol: As for track records, Kelly (Apprentice2) had a better track record than Bill (Apprentice1), does that mean Kelly is better than Bill? I dont think so.

Rebecca was right that Randal loses focus. Remeber he wanted to make a (ugly) "poster" for the XM Radio task? (which backfired) :lol: Even in the final task he wasted time buying things and Josh was shaking his head.

By dropping the hammer on her, Randal has set himself up to be a big player in the Trump organization. He's just proven that he can put aside feelings and all the external pressure and make the tough decision when needed. That was a gutsy thing Randal did and in the long run, I think it'll pay off in spades.
Yeah, like noted earlier. Trump could have a potential ego-maniac on his hands. Randal was also really upset when Rebecca said ONE negative thing on the XM Radio task and he whined on and on .. ego-centric individual? most certainly. I attribute it to his education.

[zalapski]

What did Randal ask about that made some of the other candidates in the background stand? Could not really see who responded by standing because the TV lights were not on those that were fired.

Did anybody notice Felisha in the background mouthing "No" when Trump asked whether Rebecca should be hired too? Which makes me wonder who else supported Rebecca among the candidates besides the three who helped her in the final task.

Oh well I am sure we will hear more about this in the coming days.

Anybody know what has become of Kendra from the previous season? She was there at tonight's finale but the Donald made no mention of any of the previous hires.

[Wildfire]

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[jory29]

I think it was pretty clear it was a tie, in Mr. Trump's eyes; it would have been in Randal's best interest to have indicated he thought it a great idea to bring Reeebecca {as silly ol' Allah kept mis-pronouncing!} to the team. He could have said, "Mr. Trump, I am very honored that you chose me to be your apprentice, and I am looking forward to working for you at my chosen destination. Nothing could please me more than seeing my colleague, Rebecca, have a similar opportunity presented to her; she has shown that she definitely has what it takes, and I would be honored to have her as a colleague of mine."

Selfish, selfish Randal; what on earth was he thinking?!!!

[sparkplug]

I think Randal is better than Rebecca right now out of the gate. Given some apprenticeship and a few years of experience, Rebecca could surpass Randal. It's almost like season 1 with Bill vs. Kwame.

However, Trump's casino business has been in the toilet and just out of bankruptcy recently. He needs help there more than his condo project on the other side of the Hudson River. He has potentially competent help now in Randal, which helped make his decision.

Kwame, by the way, I believe is trying to develop a multi-billion dollar project in Washington, D.C. Maybe in five years he'll surpass Bill Rancic in achievements.

[Madcatmk2]

Well, it would have been right, had Randall not totally ruined Trump's "big surprise".

Oh man, I can't believe he did that, lol, it was so obvious Trump was planning on hiring both, so here he is setting it all up, for a Kodak moment, fishing for compliments about Rebecca from Randall and then asking Randall if Rebecca should be hired as well, and then he's like "NO! NO! NO! it's all mine! I refuse to share!" haha, you can see Randall really hates losing the spotlight doesn't he?

The only thing bigger than his ego, is his nose.


The problem is she had her first choice, the Jersey buldings. Randal would had his first choice too.


I think Randal is better than Rebecca right now out of the gate. Given some apprenticeship and a few years of experience, Rebecca could surpass Randal. It's almost like season 1 with Bill vs. Kwame.


Not having a plan B obliterates his past experience ("In my opinion").

[Wildfire]

The problem is she had her first choice, the Jersey buldings. Randal would had his first choice too.
How does that make anything different?

Randall would have been the Apprentice, got his choice.
Rebecca finished second but hired as well, and taking the remaining job, (regardless if she likes the details of that job better).

[Madcatmk2]

How does that make anything different?

Randall would have been the Apprentice, got his choice.
Rebecca finished second but hired as well, and taking the remaining job.

It wasn't the remaining job as of yet. It was the first job she chose.

[Bordello]

I think it was pretty clear it was a tie, in Mr. Trump's eyes; it would have been in Randal's best interest to have indicated he thought it a great idea to bring Reeebecca {as silly ol' Allah kept mis-pronouncing!} to the team. He could have said, "Mr. Trump, I am very honored that you chose me to be your apprentice, and I am looking forward to working for you at my chosen destination. Nothing could please me more than seeing my colleague, Rebecca, have a similar opportunity presented to her; she has shown that she definitely has what it takes, and I would be honored to have her as a colleague of mine."

Selfish, selfish Randal; what on earth was he thinking?!!!
Selfish is a big part of it. Plus, I also think that he has troubles sharing the spotlight with Rebecca because she's much younger than him, she's a woman, she's less educated than he is, and in his eyes, inferior to him. If his competitor was, say, Bill or Kelly (bleh!), then he might (emphasis on might) have taken his head out of his ass for a moment to even consider sharing the Apprentice title.

[sparkplug]

Trump has not fired Rebecca yet. Maybe he'll hire her in the near future.

[Wildfire]

It wasn't the remaining job as of yet. It was the first job she chose.
I don't see point of your arguement, frankly.

Anyways, I guess Rebecca was right about Randall, not being able to see the big picture, he obviously didn't because, he missed out on a chance to make his new boss look like a generous guy for hiring them both, and a chance to make himself look like a great guy.

Instead, he only saw today, and the attention he was getting, and didn't want to share it.
Now everyone, thinks he's an egotistical ass.

[Jump]

^^^^^ Imagine: I noticed in the Randal's "I own 5 businesses" background scene that he doesn't seem to believe in *ahem* employee diversity..


I noticed that too and even pointed it out to my friend. That finale pissed me off.. from the every 10 minute commercials right up to Randal's little "This show is called Apprentice not Apprentii". It was totally set up for them both to win. Even when they both choose different rewards Trump said "Okay that'll make my decision easier".

And as for the Survivor/Survivors thing -- remember the whole "Give Rupert a Million bucks" deal after All Stars? Rebecca will definately still be offered that job off-camera. Even after Randal said NO Trump said something to the effect of "well we'll discuss this later". I bet Rebecca will probably refuse the offer though after all that went on tonight.

[Mr. Bean]

Well I think Randall was smart to keep the spotlight to himself & not to share it with Rebecca.

When Trump ask him his opinion on whether he should hire Rebecca, Trump *transferred the power of the decision to Randall* and Randall was smart & took it!

I'm sure (and hope) Rebecca would still be hired too though.

These two are by far the best Apprentices in all the seasons so far.

[jory29]

Did Trump normally say [in previous seasons,] 'You're fired' to the one who didn't win? If so, it's a given that Rebeccca will be offered a job.

She had a harder task, as the Yahoo folks were adamant that they wished not to blatently ask for money, but I guess, she could have had some kind of fun auction or something as well as the comedy night? Something where people pay, right away, for something. I honestly thought that the Yahoo guys would say, "You know, after all is said and done, Rebecca's team brought in 26,000 dollars." Of course Yahoo offered $100,000! Trump as much said he thought they should donate! Mind you, $100 000 was pretty generous. The ladies that Rebecca had to work with were kind of hags, I thought. Randal's autism lady wasn't very nice to him until he was deemed worthy of having completed the task, I didn't like that very much, as I thought [at the time!] that he deserved better from her.

Maybe they'll have a 'Randal takes his head out of his a55 show' soon? Heh heh! I don't think they sprung it on him though - the more I think of it, it sounded scripted. On the other hand, he was still in the 'FIGHT FOR SURVIVAL' mode, and adrenalin was running high yet; maybe he really did still feel strongly one should win.

Edited to add: Why the heck did Trump give the power over to Randal? Do you guys remember one show where both George and Carolynn thought one thing, then he said 'I don't always listen to them?' {Or did I get that backwards? I remember that Erin gal, who was 'in the lead' until she said 'You don't have to listen to THEM though, do you?' She was canned on the spot!

[Wildfire]

Did Trump normally say [in previous seasons,] 'You're fired' to the one who didn't win? If so, it's a given that Rebeccca will be offered a job.

She had a harder task, as the Yahoo folks were adamant that they wished not to blatently ask for money, but I guess, she could have had some kind of fun auction or something as well as the comedy night? Something where people pay, right away, for something. I honestly thought that the Yahoo guys would say, "You know, after all is said and done, Rebecca's team brought in 26,000 dollars." Of course Yahoo offered $100,000! Trump as much said he thought they should donate! Mind you, $100 000 was pretty generous. The ladies that Rebecca had to work with were kind of hags, I thought. Randal's autism lady wasn't very nice to him until he was deemed worthy of having completed the task, I didn't like that very much, as I thought [at the time!] that he deserved better from her.

Maybe they'll have a 'Randal takes his head out of his a55 show' soon? Heh heh! I don't think they sprung it on him though - the more I think of it, it sounded scripted. On the other hand, he was still in the 'FIGHT FOR SURVIVAL' mode, and adrenalin was running high yet; maybe he really did still feel strongly one should win.

Edited to add: Why the heck did Trump give the power over to Randal? Do you guys remember one show where both George and Carolynn thought one thing, then he said 'I don't always listen to them?' {Or did I get that backwards? I remember that Erin gal, who was 'in the lead' until she said 'You don't have to listen to THEM though, do you?' She was canned on the spot!
I don't recall, Trump ever saying "you're fired" to the final 2 candidates, it was always a quick cut to "you're hired" to the eventual winner.

Well yeah, it certainly looked very scripted that it was going to be a double hiring, I mean come on,
Randall : ooooh I like that job,
Rebecca : ohhhhh, I like the other job,
Trump : oh how convenient! This makes my job so much easier!
Oh come on, who are you seriously kidding.

I think Trump gave Randall the power to make the decision but it was going to be 'great tv' to see Randall be humble and be the great guy and hire his competition, but instead he killed Trump's surprise :lol:

I wonder if Randall's no response was something he thought up in advance, I mean there have been rumors about Trump wanting to hiring both for a few weeks now, Randall must have heard.

[plucky duck]

I as well Rebecca will be offered a position off camera. Randal didn't say no to not hiring her, just not tonight. He could of approached it better, but he was thrown on the spot and didn't have much time to prepare what to say in response to it.

Being tough is one thing, accomplishing the task is another.

[basis]

For a major celebrity event $11,000 in donations for Autism was a joke. That should be considered a total failure. A big celebrity event should raise at least $250,000 or more. Marshawn's estimate of $5,000 was pitiful. Also the sponsor Outback Steakhouse was a joke. What did the sponsor contribute? Randall claims he steared the focus away from Outback to Autism.

The statement that Rebecca raised zilch was totally bogus (excluding the Yahoo donation). In the Yahoo crowd there must have been some people who donated to the Elizabeth Glaser Foundation. Rebecca's fundraising could have been as low as $1,000 or high as $50,000. Since they didn't say we will never know. In the end it was Rebecca's sponsor that kicked in the $100,000. What happened to Outback Steakhouse? Also it seemed that Yahoo as a sponsor was the most forecfull that it be about Yahoo and nothing about the charity (a move for good television by the producers).

As for the Joe Piscopo pullout that was probably staged. If the TV producers knew rain was coming and Randall didn't plan for it then a pullout for Rebecca would even the score. Rebecca rebounded nicely while Randall's last minute plans and recovery were rather disappointing.


Randall's measly $11k is chump change when it comes to a big celebrity charity event. And the weather thing, that's just bad decision-making on his part.

[ericw]

Randal's the education is pretty much the only thing that makes others respect him. He kept throwing that in~it made me sick. Other than that, he showed no talents from the start IMG. no creativity, no project management skills...during the last task, he was just stupid, except for good at sucking Trump up

Rebecca is gonna be way more sucessful than Randal in a long run.

[NDman]

I thought the second place of Apprentice was always offered a job of some sort. At least that's what I read from other forums

[zzidaric]

I guess that it is all about the "Morning Show" interviews.
Randall does not want to share the spotlight.

If she was hired as well then they both would have gone on the interviews and I guess Randall does not want to share the spotlight.

Poll - if both Randall and Rebecca were on a morning show, who would get more attention? A black man or a hot white woman? (I am not trying to be racist!!!)

That is the reason that he wanted it all for himself - even though now he looks rather juvenile in not wanting to have her hired as well

[NDman]

That is the reason that he wanted it all for himself - even though now he looks rather juvenile in not wanting to have her hired as well
Does he really though, deep down? I agreed with a previous poster that Trump put him right on the spot, in front of millions of people. He made a big call and he's not afraid of taking the spot light. It's not the most desirable call for most people (included myself), but it was certainly desirable for him and it doesn't *really* affect Trump's operation. It was ballsy but he made it

[jerryhussain]

Does he really though, deep down? I agreed with a previous poster that Trump put him right on the spot, in front of millions of people. He made a big call and he's not afraid of taking the spot light. It's not the most desirable call for most people (included myself), but it was certainly desirable for him and it doesn't *really* affect Trump's operation. It was ballsy but he made it
I think most of us had already guessed that Trump was going to hire them both and even Randal expected it, so Randal might have already spent some time thinking about this decision.

[mingming]

If this WASNT on TV, Randall's decision would have been what most people will do.

I mean if you are competing with 16 other people for an elusive executive position with one of the biggest companies, and they offer to hire you, you pounce on that chance.

Why would anyone be in favour of your boss hiring a competitor who you know has great potential. If Trump hired Rebecca too, they would BOTH be in the same level in the company hierarchy, why would ANYONE allow that to happen??? Randall won, he deserves to be the sole apprentice. I dont think anyone in their right minds will take that risk of having your competition potentially surpass you in the future.

If I am being interviewed for a manager position and my competitor as well. My boss hires me, and offers my competition another position of the SAME LEVEL. Wouldnt I be scared that this competitor will threaten my reputation in the company???

[GT108]

I think many people forget business can be very cut throat.

Even the Donald mentioned it a few times during the boardroom interview, about whether a candiate is tough enough to work for his organization.

While it was not very "nice and gracious" to hear someone say what Randell said at the end, it was the right business decision. IMHO, Randell showed that he can make logical decision in the heat of the moment and not let emotions cloud his judgement.

Randell has what it takes to be the Apprentice.

[McLaren]

Poll - if both Randall and Rebecca were on a morning show, who would get more attention? A black man or a hot white woman? (I am not trying to be racist!!!)

Well if it involved a speeding car chase with cops then I would vote for the former.

On another note, anyone notice that Rebecca's boyfriend looks like some unemployed dropout bum?

[dmdsoftware2]

I fell asleep just before they were going to the live version of the boardroom showdown. Did I miss anything? It was pretty obvious Randall was going to win.

[mingming]

I think many people forget business can be very cut throat.

Even the Donald mentioned it a few times during the boardroom interview, about whether a candiate is tough enough to work for his organization.

While it was not very "nice and gracious" to hear someone say what Randell said at the end, it was the right business decision. IMHO, Randell showed that he can make logical decision in the heat of the moment and not let emotions cloud his judgement.

Randell has what it takes to be the Apprentice.

I cant agree more. Most people will not survive in New York if they use their heart and emotions to run their business. Tough decisions are made everyday.

Look at the Leafs and Raptors, if the coaches use their heart, will Czer still be benched? Or would CharlieV have been benched last game?

[alkapone]

If I am being interviewed for a manager position and my competitor as well. My boss hires me, and offers my competition another position of the SAME LEVEL. Wouldnt I be scared that this competitor will threaten my reputation in the company??? [............]


Very good point.....Winner takes all.....it can be tough out there.

[PocketRockets]

The point is, he wanted to be the clear winner. He doesn't owe Rebecca anything, period.

[Madchester]

It's funny how people say that Randall had an impressive PM record. 3-0 yes, but his margins of victory was tiny.

*5 extra calls in the Shania Twain perfume task.
*An 8.1 score to Rebecca's 7.9 in the Tech Expo at the old folk's home.
*As slick as his Learning Annex class was, it only earned like a 7.1 , compared to the 6.9 for the Sex in the Workplace bit

And Randall's baseball task looked like a high school fundraiser.

For a guy with such an impressive resume I wonder:

A) Why did he bother becoming an Apprentice.
B) Why the hell didn't he really sweep the competition. If it wasn't for the multiple firings, he would have had even more chances to mess up.

[dmdsoftware2]

I found it funny how they were unloading their emotional baggage to win empathy points. Pathetic.

[sparkplug]

I thought the second place of Apprentice was always offered a job of some sort. At least that's what I read from other forums

That's false:
Season 1: Trump hired Bill, Kwame started his own land development.
Season 2: Trump hired Kelly, I don't think he wanted Jennifer.
Season 3: Trump hired Kendra, not sure what happened to Tana but I wouldn't hire her.

[NDman]

That's false:
Season 1: Trump hired Bill, Kwame started his own land development.
Season 2: Trump hired Kelly, I don't think he wanted Jennifer.
Season 3: Trump hired Kendra, not sure what happened to Tana but I wouldn't hire her.
Cool. Cheers for clarification.

Speaking of previous Apprentice, did Kendra make an apperance on Apprentice 4? I know Kelly did for a couple of them. I didn't watch every single episode but I can't remember seeing Kendra

[alkapone]

A) Why did he bother becoming an Apprentice.[.......]



Maybe 'the challenge'?....if it was it paid off. Incredible career move?

Someone had to win...close race.....
Maybe not a pretty Rebecca photo finish ;) but Randell by a nose.. :cheesygri

[sparkplug]

http://www.billrancic.com

http://www.kendratodd.net/

http://www.kellyperdew.com/

http://www.kwamejackson.com
http://legacyholdingsllc.com/press/

[Chookman]

A) Why did he bother becoming an Apprentice.

My immediate thoughts would be that he's doing it to learn the inner workings of a billion dollar company from someone who is successful at it as well as having the opportunity to get exposure to other big business people due to the show and the contacts through the Trump organization.

Then when he moves out on his own, he'll have many more ties to people in higher places than he does now. The more people you know in higher places, the better off you'll be. Trump will provide faster access than he would ever have doing it on his own.

[sparkplug]

Trump's casino business already has a CEO named James Perry. In fact, I think we saw him in the first season of The Apprentice when Kwame went to Taj Mahal to manage the Jessica Simpson concert.

http://www.globest.com/news/434_434/newjersey/141144-1.html

[tonychau]

Whatever you guys defence Randall. He already owned a bad name in the world of business and entertainment!!! bad press for Randall!!

I'm surprise the network NBC doesn't support Randall's decision!

Source: MS-NBC "‘Apprentice’ winner refuses to share title"
"Losing respect for Randal"
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/10485160/

Love the closing remark:
Donald Trump ended up with the two most impressive candidates he’s ever had. It’s just a shame that the one Donald Trump picked first was too selfish to recognize that.

I personally think Randall is a dick and selfish person. If a billionaire come by and said you won a million dollar and own the title of X. The billionaire said he would offer another million dollar to someone else and you turn it down. it does not compromise your position. Then why not??

Reason for spotlight?? -- ha! Now try talking out from your bad press. Media is cruel!

[NDman]

Whatever you guys defence Randall. He already owned a bad name in the world of business and entertainment!!! bad press for Randall!!

I'm surprise the network NBC doesn't support Randall's decision!

Source: MS-NBC "‘Apprentice’ winner refuses to share title"
"Losing respect for Randal"
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/10485160/

Andy Dehnart doesn't support, not NBC

[tonychau]

Season 4: Trump hired Randall, Apprentice winner refuses to share title :mad:

He wasn't sharing anything. He won. He was asked to do something for Rebecca. He didn't. He was a straight out dick because his fragile ego couldn't allow anyone else to benefit when it cost him nothing.

That's false:
Season 1: Trump hired Bill, Kwame started his own land development.
Season 2: Trump hired Kelly, I don't think he wanted Jennifer.
Season 3: Trump hired Kendra, not sure what happened to Tana but I wouldn't hire her.

[mingming]

If 2 teams play their heart out for the Stanley Cup, and as Bettman awards the cup to the winning team, he offers that the two teams should share the cup. Then why the f*** did we spend all this time determining a winner if we knew it was going to be shared???

[mingming]

Season 4: Trump hired Randall, Apprentice winner refuses to share title :mad:

He wasn't sharing anything. He won. He was asked to do something for Rebecca. He didn't. He was a straight out dick because his fragile ego couldn't allow anyone else to benefit when it cost him nothing.

As I said earlier, would you allow a rival competitor to take a position of the same hierarchy level who has the potential to achieve the same level (or even greater) level of success than you.

If me and you were applying to be a manager, and you get offered the job. Would you let me take a manager job in another department knowing that i lost to you, and will do everything in my power to prove to the boss that he made the wrong choice selecting you first.

For entertainment, yes, it wasnt a nice thing to do. But in a business standpoint, Randall is just looking out for himself, and dont we all do that when looking for a job, going for a promotion, etc??

[tonychau]

hee heee, do you think the network will have their own staff disowned their program.... C'mon if network like to protect Randall's image, that article would not be there on MS-NBC. I wonder how did the article ended up there in the first place.

The title might be something like, "True Apprentice Winner, wise business decision", you know what I mean NBC could spin around the reaction to a positive one.

Headlines read like this "Apprentice winner refuses to share title" and other negative things like that. Which would have been better?


Andy Dehnart doesn't support, not NBC

[north77]

As I said earlier, would you allow a rival competitor to take a position of the same hierarchy level who has the potential to achieve the same level (or even greater) level of success than you.

If me and you were applying to be a manager, and you get offered the job. Would you let me take a manager job in another department knowing that i lost to you, and will do everything in my power to prove to the boss that he made the wrong choice selecting you first.

For entertainment, yes, it wasnt a nice thing to do. But in a business standpoint, Randall is just looking out for himself, and dont we all do that when looking for a job, going for a promotion, etc??

Yadda yadda...

Trump will still hire Rebecca, regardless of what Randall thinks. Right On Becky! Trump likes her spunk, and the fact she's so young and impressionable (and hot) is a bonus! :twisted: Besides, I think Caroline likes her too, and I think it's hard to impress her (especially by another woman.)

Mingming, to answer your Q. Yah, if I respected the other person, and thought they'd be good for the corporation... I'd recommend them and be happy for them. You never know when you might need them later in life. ;)

[mingming]

Yadda yadda...

Trump will still hire Rebecca, regardless of what Randall thinks. Right On Becky! Trump likes her spunk, and the fact she's so young and impressionable (and hot) is a bonus! :twisted: Besides, I think Caroline likes her too, and I think it's hard to impress her (especially by another woman.)

I will agree that Rebecca might still get hired by Trump. But Randall was right in saying.. "TONIGHT, there should be only one". For the show, the rules, the game, the history of the show, there was only ONE winner. Why should he have to share the award when the previous 3 seasons had only 1 winner. He never said Trump shouldnt hire her, just not tonight.

[tonychau]

C'mon it is a business world. It is bind to be competitive no matter who work with you. That's how we acheive and reach our goals and push our limit. If you a proven leader, you are competiting with yourself but not with others. Others are just a standard that you measure against yourself with. If you are scare of a little of rival competitors you don't understand the real world of business of competition.

In the top of CEOs, BODs they are all friends and competitive togethers and against each.

As I said earlier, would you allow a rival competitor to take a position of the same hierarchy level who has the potential to achieve the same level (or even greater) level of success than you.

If me and you were applying to be a manager, and you get offered the job. Would you let me take a manager job in another department knowing that i lost to you, and will do everything in my power to prove to the boss that he made the wrong choice selecting you first.

For entertainment, yes, it wasnt a nice thing to do. But in a business standpoint, Randall is just looking out for himself, and dont we all do that when looking for a job, going for a promotion, etc??

[NDman]

hee heee, do you think the network will have their own staff disowned their program.... C'mon if network like to protect Randall's image, that article would not be there on MS-NBC. I wonder how did the article ended up there in the first place.

Why would the network even care? If anything, it would be Trump who should care. NBC cares about publicity and Randall's call has done just that. To NBC, it's just a show.

[north77]

I will agree that Rebecca might still get hired by Trump. But Randall was right in saying.. "TONIGHT, there should be only one". For the show, the rules, the game, the history of the show, there was only ONE winner. Why should he have to share the award when the previous 3 seasons had only 1 winner. He never said Trump shouldnt hire her, just not tonight.

The main reason I think Randall missed the mark on that comment is because it's Trumps show... if Trump wants Apprentii, Trump GETS Apprentii, peroid. Trump doesn't always follow the rules, just uses them as some sort of guidline... like with the multiple firings. ;)

Randall just let his ego get out of hand and got a bit defensive.. which really was very uncharacteristic of him. I always thought he seemed rather grounded throughout the show. That comment actually worried me a bit. *shrug*

[mingming]

C'mon it is a business world. It is bind to be competitive no matter who work with you. That's how we acheive and reach our goals and push our limit. If you a proven leader, you are competiting with yourself but not with others. Others are just a standard that you measure against yourself with. If you are scare of a little of rival competitors you don't understand the real world of business of competition.

In the top of CEOs, BODs they are all friends and competitive togethers and against each.

I agree with competition. But he is pretty much asked to pick his competition. If I was in a higher position than you, and you are competing with me, I alreayd have the edge in the battle. Why would I allow you to catch up to me??? The competition between myself and u is already on, if you want to match up to me, do it on your own 2 feet, not with me helping.

If he had given Rebecca the position, what would it say on Rebecca's part that she was able to match up to Randall only because Randall allowed her. And not because rebecca rose up on her own.

I dont care if a competitor arises and challenges me. But if I had a part in helping that competition defeat me, then it would be a bum on my behalf.

[north77]

I agree with competition. But he is pretty much asked to pick his competition. If I was in a higher position than you, and you are competing with me, I alreayd have the edge in the battle. Why would I allow you to catch up to me??? The competition between myself and u is already on, if you want to match up to me, do it on your own 2 feet, not with me helping.

If he had given Rebecca the position, what would it say on Rebecca's part that she was able to match up to Randall only because Randall allowed her. And not because rebecca rose up on her own.

I dont care if a competitor arises and challenges me. But if I had a part in helping that competition defeat me, then it would be a bum on my behalf.

I guess you feel like you may get beaten by a woman? *teases* If you are good, you should be able to take on any competition. If you lose, you learn your lesson for next time.

Just had a thought... has this actually happened to you? You helped someone get to where they are and they stab you in the back???

[mingming]

I guess you feel like you may get beaten by a woman? *teases* If you are good, you should be able to take on any competition. If you lose, you learn your lesson for next time.

Just had a thought... has this actually happened to you? You helped someone get to where they are and they stabbed you in the back???

No, hasnt happened. Just putting in a scenario.

I know you should take on any competition, and you should always be prepared to face it. Just like Randall should be prepared to face Rebecca's new wraft to get back at him. But why would you help your villian if you already defeated him? (not really a villian, but you know what I mean)

[dekay]

Randal should've turned the script on Trump and said he'll hire Rebecca himself. This way, he'll still be the only Apprentice, he protects his image, Rebecca is still with the Trump organization (which I think Trump will hire after the show anyways), but most importantly, he's above her. ;)

[monkeybag$]

While it was not very "nice and gracious" to hear someone say what Randal said at the end, it was the right business decision. IMHO, Randal showed that he can make a logical decision in the heat of the moment and not let emotions cloud his judgment.

Randal has what it takes to be the Apprentice.

Yes, except that all the other Apprentice wannabees were saying how "nice" Randal was, and how he had a "heart of gold". That was why many of them wanted him to win.

Was it all an act?

[Madchester]

If 2 teams play their heart out for the Stanley Cup, and as Bettman awards the cup to the winning team, he offers that the two teams should share the cup. Then why the f*** did we spend all this time determining a winner if we knew it was going to be shared???

The South African edition hired both finalists, so it's a moot point whether co-winners are acceptable or not. Likewise, both finalists were fired in another international version.

The purpose of the show is for A) PR obviously and B) a search for qualified candidates to work in various areas within an organization. If Rebecca wasn't getting the NJ condo job, there still would have been a vacancy for the position. From the perspective of the Trump organization, it would have been best to hire both candidates to filll those vacancies. Now, the game was already over, and Randall had been chosen personally by Trump. However, instead of making an astute business decision on behalf the Trump Organization to better the human capital within the company, he made a personal decision to block Rebecca and take the title for himself only. All for sole possession of a reality TV crown?

Poor first impression on the job.

[Kerlo]

Was it all an act?

It was probably all favourable editing . . .

Anyway, for ppl wantitng to know the reasons for Randal entering the 'The Apprentice', he did an interview with a magazine I get every three months from the National Society for Black Engineers.

... Dr. (Randal) Pinkett, 34, says he decided to pursue the opportunity to learn from the entrepreneur of entrepreneurs, Donald Trump.

"He is an icon in business with a wealth of knowledge, whereas I am still relatively young in my entrepreneurial career," Dr. Pinkett says.

Dr. Pinkett has helped make BCT Partners a multimillion-dollar management, technology and policy consulting firm, but he says he wants to learn from Trump how to run a multibillion-dollar company. He also looks forward to the opportunity to "be challenged, to learn and to have some fun!"

"Ultimately, I see this leading to greater opportunities for BCT Partners," Dr. Pinkett says. "I envision the company doing more deals and bigger deals as a result." ...

[jerryhussain]

If this WASNT on TV, Randall's decision would have been what most people will do.

I mean if you are competing with 16 other people for an elusive executive position with one of the biggest companies, and they offer to hire you, you pounce on that chance.

Why would anyone be in favour of your boss hiring a competitor who you know has great potential. If Trump hired Rebecca too, they would BOTH be in the same level in the company hierarchy, why would ANYONE allow that to happen??? Randall won, he deserves to be the sole apprentice. I dont think anyone in their right minds will take that risk of having your competition potentially surpass you in the future.

If I am being interviewed for a manager position and my competitor as well. My boss hires me, and offers my competition another position of the SAME LEVEL. Wouldnt I be scared that this competitor will threaten my reputation in the company???
So you are trying to imply that Randal accepted his insecurity on national television? Way to go Randal! :cheesygri (I agree that this sort of things happen all the time BUT they are highly secretive)

Speaking of previous Apprentice, did Kendra make an apperance on Apprentice 4? I know Kelly did for a couple of them. I didn't watch every single episode but I can't remember seeing Kendra
Kelly was in grand total of 1 episode, Bill in 3 or 4 episodes and Kendra didnt make any appearance at all. Probably shows how much confidence/trust Trump has in his "apprentii".

By the way, has anyone seen this? http://randalownsrebecca.ytmnd.com/

[tonychau]

I guess this is the case. A baby afraids of little competition with his rival. ;)
With Randall's education background where is the competition, he is the walking University. Donald Trump said, he values great employees. The reason Donald decides to hire both for this season, he sees great potential in both of them in bringing him big dollars to his organization. Donald sees them as working pawns. Cash-Cling Cash-Cling $$$.

Donald is sure a real businessman that could see the big pictures to Recruit and Retain the Best brightest people. Randall is sure blow Donald's chance in keeping the best people.

Don't forget, if Donald doesn't see any potential in Rebecca why gamble and take the risk to give her the $100 million contruction project, because Donald knows Rebecca could manage it and handle stress well.

All the best for Rebecca!


So you are trying to imply that Randal accepted his insecurity on national television? Way to go Randal! :cheesygri (I agree that this sort of things happen all the time BUT they are highly secretive)


Kelly was in grand total of 1 episode, Bill in 3 or 4 episodes and Kendra didnt make any appearance at all. Probably shows how much confidence/trust Trump has in his "apprentii".

By the way, has anyone seen this? http://randalownsrebecca.ytmnd.com/

[mingming]

I guess this is the case. A baby afraids of little competition with his rival. ;)
With Randall's education background where is the competition, he is the walking University. Donald Trump said, he values great employees. The reason Donald decides to hire both for this season, he sees great potential in both of them in bringing him big dollars to his organization. Donald sees them as working pawns. Cash-Cling Cash-Cling $$$.

Donald is sure a real businessman that could see the big pictures to Recruit and Retain the Best brightest people. Randall is sure blow Donald's chance in keeping the best people.

Don't forget, if Donald doesn't see any potential in Rebecca why gamble and take the risk to give her the $100 million contruction project, because Donald knows Rebecca could manage it and handle stress well.

All the best for Rebecca!

They already competed for 13 weeks, he already won. Why bring on the loser???

I dont care if Trump hires her off-air. But to do it on TV, it was kind of an insult on Randall's part that he had to share it instead of the 3 previous winners.

[Madcatmk2]

http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/051216/0104278.html


"Donald Interviewed All the Candidates for Us to Qualify Jarvis for the Job," Says SYS-CON Founder Kircaali

MONTVALE, NJ--(MARKET WIRE)--Dec 16, 2005 -- SYS-CON Media (www.sys-con.com) announced today that it plans to offer the top job at SYS-CON Events, Inc., the company's fully owned subsidiary that produces leading i-technology conferences and trade shows, to Ms. Rebecca Jarvis.

SYS-CON's offer to Ms. Jarvis will be to run the events division of the company as president and CEO with an annual salary of $150,000. Part of the job responsibilities of the president and CEO position, which is currently open, will include the launch of three international conferences in 2006: iTVcon -- Internet TV Conference & Expo (www.itvcon.com), SOA Web Services Edge Conference & Expo, and Enterprise Open Source Conference & Expo.

"SYS-CON Media has become the world's leading media company in i-technology markets in the past 10 years," said Fuat Kircaali, founder and CEO of the company. "We believe Rebecca can be a strong leader in our organization to grow this division and we would love to discuss this opportunity and the job details with her. In terms of her qualifications for the job: which employment agency could have ever done a better job than Donald? We believe Ms. Jarvis is fully qualified for this position."

About SYS-CON Media

SYS-CON Media, listed in Inc 500 three years in a row as the fastest growing, privately held publishing company in America, is the world's leading publisher exclusively serving i-technology markets.

[Bordello]

How much does asswipe (aka. Randall) get paid for his new job with Trump?

[Madcatmk2]

How much does asswipe (aka. Randall) get paid for his new job with Trump?

250000$ i think.

I am unsure of the source but i read that Trump SAID he would cut his salary by 50% if he'd chose to share the title. If its true i don't know if its to cover up for Randal's.

[MrDisco]

i just finished watching the finale (yah a bit late i know :P). i'm absolutely blown away randall didn't give rebeccah a shot. that just goes against his image they protrayed on the show.

[sg1138]

http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/051216/0104278.html

only a 150,000? I'm sure she was making mo at her old job prior to the apprentii

[blizzah]

only a 150,000? I'm sure she was making mo at her old job prior to the apprentii

She used to be a business journalist. So she probably wasn't?

[BirdFlu]

Randall should have shared his title because that's what Trump would do. That is how Donald Trump become to successful because he gave in to the competition. :confused: Some people are so silly, one winner one loser, Rebecca is the loser.

If you think Randall should share his title do you think all the Super Bowls and Stanley Cups should have 2 winners? I think you guys that are angry with Randall should start a petition so all games have 2 winners or make everyone a winner like the Special Olympics maybe thats what Rebecca should be in.

[warpdrive]

If you think Randall should share his title do you think all the Super Bowls and Stanley Cups should have 2 winners? I think you guys that.......

This is a 13 week job INTERVIEW...not a Superbowl.

In other international apprentice shows, there have been double winners before.

[BirdFlu]

This is a 13 week job INTERVIEW...not a Superbowl.

In other international apprentice shows, there have been double winners before.
This show is called THE APPRENTICE...not MANY APPRENTICES!

if international shows do double winners maybe rebecca should try on those knockoffs maybe she should go cry to martha steward.

[Madcatmk2]

winner like the Special Olympics maybe thats what Rebecca should be in.[/SIZE][/b]

if international shows do double winners maybe rebecca should try on those knockoffs maybe she should go cry to martha steward.

I think you need attention. In forum its called trolling.

I also think that she got the better part by losing this game. Trump needs a charismatic leader that can be manipulated by him.

[BirdFlu]

I think you need attention. In forum its called trolling.

I also think that she got the better part by losing this game. Trump needs a charismatic leader that can be manipulated by him.

you must think you are smarter than trump but madcatmk1 is not smart like donald trump
if rebecca is so good she would have won this is not special olympics where everyone will win
maybe you can get attention by complaining about randall to nbc. call and cry maybe they will make trump hire her!

[mingming]

I think you need attention. In forum its called trolling.

I also think that she got the better part by losing this game. Trump needs a charismatic leader that can be manipulated by him.

Im sure your boss will be quite happy if you offer your competition a deal as well when you've just landed a big contract with a major client over your competitor.

Does WalMart help out Kmart?
Does Microsoft help out Apple?
Does Toyota help out Honda?
Would Apple help Sony by giving them a boost in the mp3 player market?

All these answers are NO. Business is like that, when you win, you try to stay the winner.

[mingming]

This is a 13 week job INTERVIEW...not a Superbowl.

In other international apprentice shows, there have been double winners before.

SuperBowl is a 16 week process to determine a champion.
Apprentice is a 13 week process to determine a winner.

How are they different?

So for all those who say other apprentice shows named 2 winners. Well Salt Lake 2002 gave 2 gold medals for figure skating. Yes, there was a scandal, but there were STILL 2 gold medalists. Do you think the Canadian pair REALLY won??? How do you think the Russian pair felt when it wasnt in their control. In the end, it just didnt feel right that there were 2 golds.

[BirdFlu]

Im sure your boss will be quite happy if you offer your competition a deal as well when you've just landed a big contract with a major client over your competitor.
it seems thats how madcatmk1 business model works, let everyone win. he must think thats how trump become rich by making everyone win. if so everyone would have a trump tower!
he probably wants rebecca to win because shes pretty but trump is too smart for that

[Mr. Bean]

Hey peeps.

There are too many opinions on this matter - but only 2 that count.

Was Randal right in saying there should be only 1 Apprentice?
YES or NO

Let's do this scientifically and democratically - vote!

See the following to vote:

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=232574

But come back to this thread to voice your opinion.

[Yaowsers]

This is a 13 week job INTERVIEW...not a Superbowl.

In other international apprentice shows, there have been double winners before.Other shows are other shows. That has nothing to do with this show.

A decision was made by Trump that there was one winner. He chose Randall. He did not come out and say I think we should have two winners and you are both hired. He chose one, not two. If Trump had said that he's going to choose two winners than that is a different story.

[bell02fantasy]

Other shows are other shows. That has nothing to do with this show.

A decision was made by Trump that there was one winner. He chose Randall. He did not come out and say I think we should have two winners and you are both hired. He chose one, not two. If Trump had said that he's going to choose two winners than that is a different story.


What everyone is forgetting is the Rebecca raised ZIP - nothing - nada - ZERO....that was grounds enoght to fire her. She did not accomplish what she was suppose to do. If Randall had raised 11000 and she raised 10,500 would be having this argument////

[Yaowsers]

What everyone is forgetting is the Rebecca raised ZIP - nothing - nada - ZERO....that was grounds enoght to fire her. She did not accomplish what she was suppose to do. If Randall had raised 11000 and she raised 10,500 would be having this argument////Exactly. She lost the final task to Randall. It's as simple as that. You can't have 2 winners when one candidate was clearly superior over the other. I'm saying this with all due respect to Rebecca.

[sparkplug]

If Trump hired both candidates, that would mean he'd have to split his time between both apprentices. That means less training and face time for the true winner Randal. If I was Randal, I'd want as much time with Trump as possible rather than splitting it with another newbie. That's the sole reason any of these candidates want to work for Trump. Once they learn his secrets to success, they'll vacate their positions to create their own billion dollar company.

By the way, Bill Rancic has decided he's learned enough from Trump and will not be renewing his contract when it expires. He's signed on to make appearances on future installments of The Apprentice, but otherwise he's on his own trying to build his own skyscrapers.

[mochachicka]

If Trump hired both candidates, that would mean he'd have to split his time between both apprentices. That means less training and face time for the true winner Randal. If I was Randal, I'd want as much time with Trump as possible rather than splitting it with another newbie.

Do you really think Trump spends any time with them at all? I would assume that he doesn't...it's most likely his VPs and those involved with each project that spend time with the apprentices. He probably only sees them when they make an appearance on his show. I'm sure the appeal of being the apprentice isn't all about "learning" from The Donald as it is 'making their name famous within business circles' so that they can do their own thing with a well known name and client base.

[sparkplug]

Trump is hands-on with his major projects. When negotiations were being finalized for his Chicago tower, Bill Rancic was able to spend quite a bit of time with him. When Bill was hired, Trump still had to get the financing done so Bill sat in on all the meetings. Bill was also invited to attend Trump events around the world like the Miss Universe pageant.

On the other hand, I don't think Trump puts any thought into his Trump Ice water, which is a marketing project Kelly Perdew worked on earlier this year.

So it depends on the project. I think Trump's casino business is a big part of his holdings, so no doubt he'll want to spend some of his own time revitatilizing Atlantic City and put focus on Las Vegas.

[BirdFlu]

I bet if Omarosa or LaShauna was sitting with him in the final two , Randall would of shared the title of Apprentice .
very silly thing to say
maybe i bet you have no sense

[tonychau]

One thing I hate about the last show is when yahoo's COO came-in and said Yahoo would donate $100,000 total to each fund rasiers.

My ears hurt!.... just to save their faces

[Madchester]

What everyone is forgetting is the Rebecca raised ZIP - nothing - nada - ZERO....that was grounds enoght to fire her. She did not accomplish what she was suppose to do. If Randall had raised 11000 and she raised 10,500 would be having this argument////

First of all this is what Trump said, when he assigned the task:

"At both events, you will be judged, on your overall success, co-ordinating all facets of the benefit. Including sponsors, VIP parties, charity relationships, budgets, event staff, and overall attendee experience."

The actual fundraising was only one aspect of the task; it wasn't even highlighted as one of the criteria when Trump was speaking.


Furthermore, it's rather ridiculous to believe that none of the 200+ Yahoo! VIPs donated a single cent after the event. It may have been true that she had received no money at the time of the boardroom, the day after the tasks. However, at her post-game interviews (TV Guide.com (http://p085.ezboard.com/fsurvivorsucksfrm53.showMessage?topicID=2597.topic ) , Fishbowl.com (Podcast) (http://www1.thefishbowl.com/multimedia-albums/album07/rtw121605.mp3) Rebecca commented on how donations envelopes had been received by the Elizabeth Glazer Pediatric AIDS Foundation on a steady basis after the event. There's been more than enough time to tabulate the totals. Regardless, Trump and co. wasn't very honnest when they portrayed Rebecca's event to be a complete fundraising failure.

On the criteria of "charity relationships", Rebecca commented (in both interviews) that it was more important to build a long term relationship with donors, rather than milking them for a few K's at a one time event. (Rebecca helped raise $750K as a 15 year old) Why didn't Trump applaud Rebecca for fostering a relationship between the EGPAF and Yahoo!, the latter who were organizing one of their first charity events?

The fact is Rebecca's event DID raise money. How much and why it hasn't been released to the public is something that should have been scrutinized in the first place. Trump should be grilled for not revealing the totals and being a hypocrite in his evaluation criteria.

[warpdrive]

A decision was made by Trump that there was one winner. He chose Randall. He did not come out and say I think we should have two winners and you are both hired. He chose one, not two. If Trump had said that he's going to choose two winners than that is a different story.

If anything, it was obvious Trump was going to hire Rebecca. The previews said there was going to be a surprise ending, and Trump has said that he was expecteing Randall to say that he should hire her.

Trump has broken all the rules in firing multiple people and this would be no different. It's only when Randall surprised him that he backed away from it.

[BirdFlu]

If anything, it was obvious Trump was going to hire Rebecca. The previews said there was going to be a surprise ending, and Trump has said that he was expecteing Randall to say that he should hire her.

Trump has broken all the rules in firing multiple people and this would be no different. It's only when Randall surprised him that he backed away from it.

Trump backed down from Randall? so Randall is boss now? maybe Trump was interviewed by randall for 13 weeks. very silly thinking
if trump wanted rebecca he would hire her but he didn't want the loser this time maybe later he will hire rebecca the loser but for now he hired randall the winner

[warpdrive]

Trump backed down from Randall? so Randall is boss now? maybe Trump was interviewed by randall for 13 weeks. very silly thinking
if trump wanted rebecca he would hire her but he didn't want the loser this time maybe later he will hire rebecca the loser but for now he hired randall the winner

Yes he backed down. It was obvious because he said "I guess I could be convinced...we'll talk about it later". He may still hire her but he backed down from hiring her right at that minute.

It would look bad if he asked Randall, and he disregarded what he said.
It would make for good television if Randall had said what he expected "yes let's hire her" and then he said, "Rebecca, you're hired", but because Randall said something opposite, he had no choice but to back down.

[Madchester]

^

Trump did back down.


After Trump hired Randal, there were only 30 seconds left before the show ended and cut to the credits. With Randal making his surprise decision with essentially no time left on the program, Trump was forced to give in to Randal's wishes, instead of the double hiring he wanted. Trump was handcuffed with Randall's decision.

[BirdFlu]

now i see randall is new boss thats why randall never hire rebecca because he didnt want to hire a loser
what will trump do now that randall is new boss?
you people are crying more than rebecca did. better to write a letter to nbc instead of crying on http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200587 all day

[warpdrive]

now i see randall is new boss thats why randall never hire rebecca because he didnt want to hire a loser
what will trump do now that randall is new boss?
you people are crying more than rebecca did. better to write a letter to nbc instead of crying on http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200587 all day

What's your problem?...I don't care the least bit if Rebecca is hired or not, but the fact of the matter is, Trump had every intent to hire her, but backed down due to the time limits and the surprising answer from Randall.

[blizzah]

now i see randall is new boss thats why randall never hire rebecca because he didnt want to hire a loser
what will trump do now that randall is new boss?
you people are crying more than rebecca did. better to write a letter to nbc instead of crying on http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200587 all day

Err wtf did you just say??? And whats the point of linking back to the current topic?

[BirdFlu]

What's your problem?...I don't care the least bit if Rebecca is hired or not, but the fact of the matter is, Trump had every intent to hire her, but backed down due to the time limits and the surprising answer from Randall.

what is your problem sir?
rebecca is loser
this happen a week ago
because you post on http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2584072 doesnt mean you will go back in time and change anything
you think randall is boss. randall trump the donald

[BirdFlu]

Err wtf did you just say??? And whats the point of linking back to the current topic?

i said now i see randall is new boss thats why randall never hire rebecca because he didnt want to hire a loser
what will trump do now that randall is new boss?
you people are crying more than rebecca did. better to write a letter to nbc instead of crying on http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200587 all day

i link here because i was talking about this place http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200587

[warpdrive]

what is your problem sir?
rebecca is loser
this happen a week ago
because you post on http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2584072 doesnt mean you will go back in time and change anything
you think randall is boss. randall trump the donald


I was just stating the facts about what happened.

Here are the facts:
Was Trump going to hire Rebecca before he asked Randall?
Yes

Did he hire Rebecca?
No, he backed down.

Can he still hire Rebecca later?
yes

Am I crying about it? Do I care that much?
No, I don't care either way.

Now what is your point? From the way you word your posts....are you like 12 years old or something?

[BirdFlu]

I was just stating the facts about what happened.

Here are the facts:
Was Trump going to hire Rebecca before he asked Randall?
Yes

Did he hire Rebecca?
No, he backed down.

Can he still hire Rebecca later?
yes

Am I crying about it? Do I care that much?
No, I don't care either way.

Now what is your point? From the way you word your posts....are you like 12 years old or something?

oh so randall is boss and you can read trumps mind? you so sure he was going to hire rebecca but randall scared him to not do it? he must be so successful because trump always backs down in deals.
http://www.nbc.com wants to hear about it they dont read crying posts about rebecca on http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2588092 right now
now what is your point rebecca is still loser randall is still winner but you dont care but you cry about it soon

[warpdrive]

oh so randall is boss and you can read trumps mind? you so sure he was going to hire rebecca but randall scared him to not do it? he must be so successful because trump always backs down in deals.
http://www.nbc.com wants to hear about it they dont read crying posts about rebecca on http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2588092 right now
now what is your point rebecca is still loser randall is still winner but you dont care but you cry about it soon

Get a clue buddy. I have no idea why you insist on spewing that drivel.

[BirdFlu]

i have a clue and answer randall youre hired
maybe he can hire rebecca as the loser apprentice

[warpdrive]

i have a clue and answer randall youre hired
maybe he can hire rebecca as the loser apprentice

:rolleyes: You are unbelievable.

[BirdFlu]

I dont'not understand what this means