Official thread - Survivor Guatemala: The Mayan Empire

[jtcb]

Reminder to all survivor fans, Survivor Guatemala: The Mayan Empire (http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor11/) starts Thursday night Sept 15 at 8 on Global.

[felix]

Thanks for the reminder!

Other related links :
http://www.survivorfever.net/index11.html
http://www.realitytvcalendar.com/shows/survivor-guatemala.html
http://www.survivorskills.com/
http://www.survivorguatemala.net/
http://p085.ezboard.com/bsurvivorsucks

[djspazz]

They said that there are 2 twists this time... Any guess on what will happen? I'm thinking maybe a little like last time, the opposing team can vote players off each team?

[7-Endless]

They said that there are 2 twists this time... Any guess on what will happen? I'm thinking maybe a little like last time, the opposing team can vote players off each team?


I believe the two twists are the two mystery survivors who are from a previous edition of survivor...I heard that Stephanie may be one of them...

[findingnemoscar]

Five Words -- Brooke, Morgan, Brianna and Danni. :eek:

[heavensangel09]

I'm looking forward to watching tonights show. I've been to Guatemala and parts that I traveled are the same where they are going to be. I could so do this survivor.

[Headhunter]

Five Words -- Brooke, Morgan, Brianna and Danni. :eek:
I've only seen the 2nd season, but may tune in for those 5 words... :!:

[findingnemoscar]

Okay, on Survivorfever.net, they have pictures of episode one. How the heck did they get those? And the girls I mentioned, well, you can see them in those pictures without all the makeup or airbrushing. Judge for yourself. I still stand by the four gals :cheesygri

[shadowfighta]

pics of the bitties please

[shadowfighta]

oooh Brianna and morgan are nice.

[B40]

Morgan is a cutie :!:

[mingcourt]

Yes! Finally!

This is the Survivor season ive been waiting for!

I cant wait to see the rest of the episodes... i like how the challenges actually reflect the name, SURVIVOR.

the 1st reward challenge was awesome.

survivor shouldnt be a walk in the park.

my prediction for the winner: either margaret or gary.

[Chookman]

my prediction for the winner: either margaret or gary.

If he's as good at Survivor as he was with the Cowboys, he'll be sacked long before the game's over.

[Hanniganite]

I believe the two twists are the two mystery survivors who are from a previous edition of survivor...I heard that Stephanie may be one of them...

No more spoilers please. White text or warning next time, thanks.

Pretty interesting start...all the guys going down was funny. Bobby Jon is scary...eyes rolling, yelling/screaming next week...I feel bad for him. He's still not gone 3 days without tribal council yet.

I want Jesus, Steph, Margaret (so far...1 episode isn't enough to pick favs yet, since so many of them got to "air time") to do well and Morgan for eye candy :razz:

[jordan23]

brooke is hot! :lol:

[remmuh]

#1 !!!!!!!!

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/7696/sur16my.jpg

[remmuh]

#2 ~!!!

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/7903/sur21pq.jpg

[remmuh]

#3

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/650/sur44mf.jpg

[remmuh]

#4

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1944/sur37tq.jpg

[remmuh]

MORE pics of the lovely...

http://www.survivorskills.com/All-Stars/gallery/cpg/albums/userpics/danni2.jpg

http://www.survivorskills.com/All-Stars/gallery/cpg/albums/userpics/danni.jpg

[remmuh]

http://www.survivorskills.com/All-Stars/gallery/cpg/albums/userpics/morgan2.jpg

http://www.survivorskills.com/All-Stars/gallery/cpg/albums/userpics/morgan.jpg

[bmaz]

Steph has a huge bullseye on her back, the only way she can win is if her completely dominates.
Then she still has to win most of the immunity challenges.
Bobby John is prob even with the other members of his camp, after showing how vulnerable he is from early on.

[jtcb]

How come Steph and Bobby John get a second chance in the game?

[bmaz]

How come Steph and Bobby John get a second chance in the game?
Ratings? Viewer's Choice.
Steph is definitely the most popular woman on Survivor ever, and Bobby-Jon never actually got voted off the last Survivor.

[felix]

Looks like the predictions were right. I'll be rooting for Steph! (although i really doubt she'll make it to the end).

[Yesdear]

If I see one more person vomit though....... :eek:

[felix]

It's tonight again .. don't forget. :)

[Mr. Robo]

I wonder how many of you guys are gonna be disappointed that Morgan got voted out?
Personally, I think they should have gotten rid of Amy.

[remmuh]

I wonder how many of you guys are gonna be disappointed that Morgan got voted out?
Personally, I think they should have gotten rid of Amy.


but, Morgan doesn't do anything around camp.

[Hanniganite]

I don't think spoiler text is necessary AFTER episodes, unless it's spoiling something (i.e. predictions, rumors, etc) of upcoming episodes. If the episode has already aired, then people will have seen it. If people taped it or something, then they should know better than to come in here.

Anyways...it's a pity Morgan got the boot but this early on with no clear easy choice (unlike old man/busted arm Jim for the other tribe), she was the easiest target. Dunno why they kept Rafe though...he cost them plenty in the reward challenge, he isn't particularly strong, showed he wasn't exactly acrobatic (re: reward challenge), as far as I can see he doesn't do extra at camp (wilderness guide my arse).

And I wonder how long Gary can keep up his charade..I see it backfiring on him eventually.

[shadowfighta]

Ratings? Viewer's Choice.
Steph is definitely the most popular woman on Survivor ever, and Bobby-Jon never actually got voted off the last Survivor.

What made her so popular? i didnt see the Survivor she was on.

[bmaz]

What made her so popular? i didnt see the Survivor she was on.
Last Survivor her tribe never won any immunity challenges, she was the last man (woman) standing when it came time to merge.
She was/is also the most physically gifted and most determined female survivor I have ever seen.
A lot of males (and every female) were also afraid of her, she got voted off soon after joining the other tribe.

[Wildfire]

http://img336.imageshack.us/img336/2267/garytn0ae.jpg
Okay my favourite part of the 2nd episode was the outing of that "Gary Hawkins" guy. That was funny, "oh I'm a landscaper not quarterback blah blah"

So he wants to hide his identity of a 2nd rate NFL QB (real name Gary Hogeboom) so he decides to pick a new name, okay sure sounds like a plan, so he keeps his first name Gary, and then keeps the same initials and makes the last name Hawkins, wow methinks someone got sacked too often.

Check out these great NFL stats :
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/HogeGa00.htm

Mind you, I wouldn't blame anyone for not recognizing the third string QB of the 1989 Arizona Cardinals lol, funny how he thinks so high of himself that "oh no, if they find out who I am, and what a celebrity I am, I'll be gone".
Yes, your right Gary, I'm sure people would come up to and say "OMG I loved watching you warm that bench all those seasons, you were Awesome! The way, you did it with both butt cheeks at once, you were incredible! Oh and that amazing season where you threw for 7 TD's and 14 INTs, oh man"

I think he should just gather around his tribe next episode and tell them the truth about who he is :

"Hi guys, I am Guy Incognito"
http://img336.imageshack.us/img336/7908/incognito1du2qd.jpg


What next, other NFL QB 'greats' Elvis Grbac or Jeff Hostetler gonna be in Survivor? :lol:

[tonychau]

did not the other tribe's member a Lady Sport Tellercast knows about Gary already??

If the members find out he is so dishonest with his past, then who will trust him for alliance...?

[felix]

bump .. it's on in a few minutes ..

[Hanniganite]

Dunno if it was partly the editing but Brianna just looked BAD (not in the attractiveness sense) during the immunity challenge. Just standing there, completely still even with the team yelling....she screwed herself over.
Poor Steph, her team was just bad from the beginning with so many weak links. Nakum's biggest problems so far have only been dehydration and Margaret being a little bossy (ooooh). Steph's team has had 2 useless girly girls (Morgan, Brianna), 1 physically inept member (Lydia) and now one cripple (Amy).

[felix]

Looks like Nakum ended up winning the worst of the two camps with the annoying monkeys. And I thought my neighbours were annoying ...

[Rometiklan]

Steph will have to come back for the next edition of Survivor in the hopes of finding a winning tribe because Yaxha sucks so badly. The only challenge they have a hope in winning have to be intellectual because an inept Lydia and a hobbling Amy won't win any physical ones. I feel kind of badly for Steph because I have to admire her competitiveness.

[Chookman]

I can't stand Steph and I don't understand why people like her and think she's so great. She's the biggest loser in Survivor history. Her team has only ever won one immunity over the course of two shows. All the while, she blames her teammates for losing and shoulders no responsibility. Everyone knows that all great leaders take the responsibility on themselves and motivate their teammates or lead by example to rise up and defeat the competition.

[The Shirker]

Does anyone know how tall (short) Lydia is? She seems tiny.

[realize]

*chants**GO Lydia GO*

;)

[bmaz]

I can't stand Steph and I don't understand why people like her and think she's so great. She's the biggest loser in Survivor history. Her team has only ever won one immunity over the course of two shows. All the while, she blames her teammates for losing and shoulders no responsibility. Everyone knows that all great leaders take the responsibility on themselves and motivate their teammates or lead by example to rise up and defeat the competition.
Yeah right, obviously you're just talking nonsense.
A team is only as strong as its weakest link. One really strong person can't pull an entire team.
I don't know which sport you follow, but if one team gets a big superstar they still won't go anywhere unless that team has some other good supporting players.

[felix]

Yeah I thought it wasn't like her to complain about her team like that. Although i'm rooting for her I don't think she'll last very long after the teams merge.

[Rometiklan]

I can't stand Steph and I don't understand why people like her and think she's so great. She's the biggest loser in Survivor history. Her team has only ever won one immunity over the course of two shows. All the while, she blames her teammates for losing and shoulders no responsibility. Everyone knows that all great leaders take the responsibility on themselves and motivate their teammates or lead by example to rise up and defeat the competition.

Steph is hardly the biggest loser in the history of Survivor. What show have you been watching? Anyone remember Osten? If you want your comment to have any credibility, then you can start by stating some fact. You don't have to like Steph, and you may not even think she's that great, but give credit where credit is due. Steph can play the game, and I think everyone on Survivor knows she is to be feared and respected. If you were on Survivor, would you underestimate Steph? Knowing her history on the show, you'd be wise not to.

[Chookman]

Yeah right, obviously you're just talking nonsense.
A team is only as strong as its weakest link. One really strong person can't pull an entire team.
I don't know which sport you follow, but if one team gets a big superstar they still won't go anywhere unless that team has some other good supporting players.

I agree that a superstar can't do it all but a true leader doesn't complain about the hand they've been dealt. They persevere and find a way to win. She's been getting owned so far by Danni. Danni had equally inept teammates and beat Stephanie like a rented mule.

Steph is hardly the biggest loser in the history of Survivor. If you want your comment to have any credibility, then you can start by stating some fact. You don't have to like Steph, and you may not even think she's that great, but give credit where credit is due.

You want credibility? How about a 4-22 record in challenges to date? How about a 1-13 record in immunity challenges to date? How about an 0-2 record in individual immunity challenges when it really counts? How about giving up individual immunity in episode 9 last year for a piece of pizza just after newly joining the merged tribe and knowing she was the outsider against a strong tribe? How about being fully compliant in voting off stronger members of her own tribe to contribute to her continued losing? If she was so good, she'd know who to keep and who to cut. She is just plainly a bad player.

Find me another contestant that has lost 22 challenges in survivor in 13 episodes and I'll retract my statement. Hell, I doubt you'll find a survivor who has lost 22 challenges total - and that includes the all stars who have had 2 full shows and many more individual challenges which are harder to win. (Maybe Rupert who was in 25 episodes - almost double - 9 with individual immunity and reward at stake.)

You seem to take my comment in the figurative sense. My comment is literal. Nobody has lost more than her. She is the biggest loser in Survivor history.

[Rometiklan]

You want credibility? How about a 4-22 record in challenges to date? How about a 1-13 record in immunity challenges to date? How about an 0-2 record in individual immunity challenges when it really counts? How about giving up individual immunity in episode 9 last year for a piece of pizza just after newly joining the merged tribe and knowing she was the outsider against a strong tribe? How about being fully compliant in voting off stronger members of her own tribe to contribute to her continued losing? If she was so good, she'd know who to keep and who to cut. She is just plainly a bad player.

Find me another contestant that has lost 22 challenges in survivor in 13 episodes and I'll retract my statement. Hell, I doubt you'll find a survivor who has lost 22 challenges total - and that includes the all stars who have had 2 full shows and many more individual challenges which are harder to win. (Maybe Rupert who was in 25 episodes - almost double - 9 with individual immunity and reward at stake.)

You seem to take my comment in the figurative sense. My comment is literal. Nobody has lost more than her. She is the biggest loser in Survivor history.

I will give you the benefit of the doubt as to whether your stats are accurate or not. You didn't establish that you were speakng literally. If you look at Steph's record, granted, it is not impressive, which anyone who has watched Survivor, will acknowledge. But that's the whole point. Steph manages to stick around despite having lost nearly all her challenges. Her record is misleading as it is not indicative of the type of player she is. Find me a tribemember who has lost as many challenges as Steph, and still managed to last as long as she did.

Last season was a fiasco. Steph's team was doomed right from the start. Steph was clearly the strongest member of that tribe, but she couldn't contend with the likes of Tom and Ian by hersef. When one tribe wins all the immunity challenges, it's clearly a lopsided division. And your point about members who were on 2 full shows and still didn't rack up more losses than Steph clearly supports how bad Steph's team was, yet she still persevered. When she merged with the other tribe, Steph nearly staged a coup with the women to overthrow Tom, but whatsherface backed out at the last minute and told Tom about the plan. Had the women's alliance held, I think Steph had a very good shot at getting rid of Tom and Ian, and then she could have won it all. I think Steph made the best of a very bad situtation.

[bmaz]

Chookman, you only need to look at the last challenge to see what has been happening.
Of the females, you had one with a sprained ankle, one was trying to run with the ball, and the other was maing an impression of a statue.
Explain to me how you, or anyone else would have persevered in that challenge.
Steph was diving and fighting for the ball, when she finally got it, she had no one to pass it to.
That game wasn't like basketball where one person can just take over a game. In this game you have to pass in order to move the ball.

Anyways, I am done with this convo you obviously won't change your opinion.

[Chookman]

Last season was a fiasco. Steph's team was doomed right from the start. Steph was clearly the strongest member of that tribe, but she couldn't contend with the likes of Tom and Ian by hersef.

I have to disagree on this point. The team wasn't doomed from the start but she had a hand in voting out strength early. She was compliant in voting out Jolanda in the first episode along with the questionable voting out of Jeff in episode 3. This is what makes her a poor survivor player. She has physical ability but that's all she has and she's arguably not even the top player at that.

People often mistake competitiveness for athletic ability. There were arguably other female players that showed more competitiveness than Steph by stirring up the pot or winning immunity when they knew they were about to go home.

For example, Stephanie gave up a chance at individual immunity immediately after joining Koror for a piece of pizza. In Survivor 1, Kelly Wigglesworth won the final five individual challenges to save her skin until the very end. I find that more impressive than anything Stephanie has accomplished to date.

There's still time to prove me wrong. I don't deny that she has the capability, but to this point I've found her record and whining about her teammates unimpressive.

[bmaz]

.....For example, Stephanie gave up a chance at individual immunity immediately after joining Koror for a piece of pizza. In Survivor 1, Kelly Wigglesworth won the final five individual challenges to save her skin until the very end. I find that more impressive than anything Stephanie has accomplished to date.....
You keep bringing that up, as if she had any real chance of winning that challenge going head to head with Ian and Tom.
The same Ian and Tom who were on a tribe whos diet included Shark Steaks, and whatever they won during the reward challenges (one was an all you can eat buffet).

Wasn't Jeff the guy with the swollen ankle, who requested to be voted off?

[Chookman]

Explain to me how you, or anyone else would have persevered in that challenge.
Steph was diving and fighting for the ball, when she finally got it, she had no one to pass it to.
That game wasn't like basketball where one person can just take over a game. In this game you have to pass in order to move the ball.

I may have mistook the rules of the game but I think there was a loophole. If she was the most athletic and had a couple of doorknobs for teammates, I believe she could have thrown the ball to an open area and ran for it and picked it up or fought the other team for it and continued to repeat. It would have been tough, but as the supposed competitor she is, maybe she could have been successful once.

Even if this last challenge was an insurmountable hill to climb, it really doesn't excuse her 12 other immunity losses in the previous 13 attempts.

I can't believe that people think that she has had no fault in her losing and it's just poor teammates. She has had a hand in voting off stonger teammates in favour of weaker ones athletically. I think she finally made the correct choice in voting off Brianna instead of Amy unlike last year when she dumped Jeff in favour of Kim.

[Chookman]

You keep bringing that up, as if she had any real chance of winning that challenge going head to head with Ian and Tom.

Only someone lacking in competitive spirit would let oneself believe that he/she had no chance or quit before he/she'd gone down fighting. Hmm... my point proven?

[B40]

http://img336.imageshack.us/img336/2267/garytn0ae.jpg
Okay my favourite part of the 2nd episode was the outing of that "Gary Hawkins" guy. That was funny, "oh I'm a landscaper not quarterback blah blah"

So he wants to hide his identity of a 2nd rate NFL QB (real name Gary Hogeboom) so he decides to pick a new name, okay sure sounds like a plan, so he keeps his first name Gary, and then keeps the same initials and makes the last name Hawkins, wow methinks someone got sacked too often.

Check out these great NFL stats :
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/HogeGa00.htm

Mind you, I wouldn't blame anyone for not recognizing the third string QB of the 1989 Arizona Cardinals lol, funny how he thinks so high of himself that "oh no, if they find out who I am, and what a celebrity I am, I'll be gone".
Yes, your right Gary, I'm sure people would come up to and say "OMG I loved watching you warm that bench all those seasons, you were Awesome! The way, you did it with both butt cheeks at once, you were incredible! Oh and that amazing season where you threw for 7 TD's and 14 INTs, oh man"

I think he should just gather around his tribe next episode and tell them the truth about who he is :

"Hi guys, I am Guy Incognito"
http://img336.imageshack.us/img336/7908/incognito1du2qd.jpg


What next, other NFL QB 'greats' Elvis Grbac or Jeff Hostetler gonna be in Survivor? :lol:

Laugh as much as you want about his stats, but I bet you he made about $200k+ a year for sitting on the bench, memorizing some plays and going to practice...

[felix]

bump ... Reminder it's on in a few minutes ..

[Hanniganite]

Judd is an idiot. Hope he doesn't make the jury or even the merge. He sure showed off his skills and team mentality at the immunity challenge :rolleyes:

Yaxha has just become a better tribe than either the original Yaxha or the original/new Nakum. Brian/Amy/Gary > Judd/Margaret/Brooke/Cindy at least physically. If Amy didn't have her wonky ankle, their entire team would have no real physical weakness. Hope they keep winning and Nakum gets picked off down to Steph/Jamie or something. I like Margaret/Brooke/Cindy but unless they get the majority, they're screwed.

[Wildfire]

Judd is an utter and complete moron.

Did you see that clueless scared out of his mind look that he had the entire day after Margaret tried to explain to him why voting out people from his old tribe and aligning himself with people who will vote him off once he's deemed useless?

It reminded of when Twila had to explain to Chris why keeping Eliza and voting out Leann was a good thing. So clueless, he reminds me of a life size Winnie the Pooh.

I can't wait till he's voted off.

[Chookman]

Judd is an utter and complete moron.

Did you see that clueless scared out of his mind look that he had the entire day after Margaret tried to explain to him why voting out people from his old tribe and aligning himself with people who will vote him off once he's deemed useless?

It reminded of when Twila had to explain to Chris why keeping Eliza and voting out Leann was a good thing. So clueless, he reminds me of a life size Winnie the Pooh.

I can't wait till he's voted off.


Heh, did you see him when Jeff basically pointed out that once you betray someone, you'll always be labelled as such? He looked like he'd never even considered that. If he'd have stayed with his team, at least it would have sent a message to the other side he's loyal. Now, neither side can trust him including his old tribe that are on the other side. No doubt that if he makes it to the merge and the original Nakum has majority, he'll be the first to go from his original tribe.

[felix]

bump ... reminder it's on again tonight!

[Hanniganite]

Jesus and Danni, why?! Why?! The old Nakum is basically dead...Depending on when they merge, there'll probably only be 1-2 of them left. The minority always says "Think of us as a whole team, not 2 separate tribes...blah blah blah" Too bad they're thinking along the lines of 2 separate tribes and that's how they'll think once they're no longer the minority. Now that it's 3-3 on their team, are Brian/Gary/Amy really just gonna forget their old alliance? Doubtful. They should've voted 1 more Yaxha before turning on their own...you always want to give yourself some numbers advantage (and old tribe alliances is the easiest way).

Judd's such a moron..."step up to the plate"...right, like he did last week? Refusing to step aside and let someone else throw? Hope he gets booted out real soon...right now, he's the one person I absolutely DON'T want to see make it to the final 3-4. I feel bad for Margaret/Cindy. They haven't shown but they haven't hurt any tribe they've been on either.

[Wildfire]

Did you see next week's preview?
That was great, it has Bobby Jesus and Jamie screaming their lungs out in each others faces, like a bunch of apes fighting over territory haha
It's a must see.

[felix]

I missed the preview for next week. Aren't Bobby Jesus and Jamie on opposite teams? Is there any way to download it?

[sankou]

I missed the preview for next week. Aren't Bobby Jesus and Jamie on opposite teams? Is there any way to download it?

it takes place during a challenge (not sure if it's for reward or immunity). the preview clip will probably be on the website. i'm sure global will air the clip a million times throughout the week as well.

[Mr. Robo]

Jesus and Danni, why?! Why?! The old Nakum is basically dead...Depending on when they merge, there'll probably only be 1-2 of them left. The minority always says "Think of us as a whole team, not 2 separate tribes...blah blah blah" Too bad they're thinking along the lines of 2 separate tribes and that's how they'll think once they're no longer the minority. Now that it's 3-3 on their team, are Brian/Gary/Amy really just gonna forget their old alliance? Doubtful. They should've voted 1 more Yaxha before turning on their own...you always want to give yourself some numbers advantage (and old tribe alliances is the easiest way).

Judd's such a moron..."step up to the plate"...right, like he did last week? Refusing to step aside and let someone else throw? Hope he gets booted out real soon...right now, he's the one person I absolutely DON'T want to see make it to the final 3-4. I feel bad for Margaret/Cindy. They haven't shown but they haven't hurt any tribe they've been on either.


Man, I have to put in my 2 cents too.
I don't know what the hell Dani was thinking when she decided to vote off Blake. I'm seeing the same that happened in Big Brother 6, where the alliance of one teams gets con into voting off their own members. Sooner or later when merge comes, the old Nakum tribe will be the minority and the old Yaxha will pick them off one by one.

[sankou]

:lol:

http://www.realitysucks.tv/survivor/gifs/BJswordFightMaster.gif

[Wildfire]

There it is :lol:

[felix]

I don't know what the hell Dani was thinking when she decided to vote off Blake.
She's probably after Gary and his money. :)

[felix]

bump .. it's thursday ..

[Hanniganite]

Not a whole lot happened thanks to the double tribal council. Nothing special/surprising about that since they used it last season already..

Ugh, somebody get Judd's big dumb arse outta there already...he's so annoying and full of himself. As far as I'm concerned, the ball rolling is the only way in which he has been useful to any tribe. Funny how he doesn't recall his costing the team a reward (or immunity, can't remember) back when they did the throwing challenge. I no longer want anyone who aligns with him (Jamie, Steph, Rafe, Lydia) to do well. Cindy, she really has no choice since she's already the "odd man out" so it doesn't make much sense for her to stir up trouble.

Pity Brian had to be voted out...all 6 (now 5) on that tribe deserve to go far.
Preview for next week looks pretty weak, although the visit to Nakum might be something (merge?).

[Chookman]

Ugh, somebody get Judd's big dumb arse outta there already...he's so annoying and full of himself. As far as I'm concerned, the ball rolling is the only way in which he has been useful to any tribe. Funny how he doesn't recall his costing the team a reward (or immunity, can't remember) back when they did the throwing challenge.

Agreed. Although he wasn't the only one to kill the team on that challenge and be full of oneself.

http://www.realiiity.com/cgi-bin/forums/forums.cgi?post=195811;

RNO: Who did you think was most responsible for your immunity challenge loss?

Brooke: Definitely Judd and somewhat Stephenie. Judd was the worst at throwing the axes and when we tried to switch out, he wouldn’t do it. We told him to take a break like the other team and he wouldn’t listen to anyone and then Stephenie took about 30-40 tries to hit the first tile whereas Danni hit it in about 4 tries (on the other team).

[felix]

Pity Brian had to be voted out...all 6 (now 5) on that tribe deserve to go far.

Actually I find him pretty annoying. I think it's the way he looks and talks .. not the kind of people I'd like. Glad he's gone. :cheesygri

[Wildfire]

Judd: Rafe, do I listen to you?
Rafe:Well ..I...
Judd:ANSWER THE DAMN QUESTION! CINDY, do I listen to you?

ahahaha, what a moron that Judd Flinstone is, and he's got bad sportmanship, man, dude man, bad sportmanship!. :cheesygri

[Rometiklan]

Judd: Rafe, do I listen to you?
Rafe:Well ..I...
Judd:ANSWER THE DAMN QUESTION! CINDY, do I listen to you?

ahahaha, what a moron that Judd Flinstone is, and he's got bad sportmanship, man, dude man, bad sportmanship!. :cheesygri

Judd's a dumbass. Right now, his tribe needs him more than they hate him because he can help them win challenges. Margaret could not. But he should really start forming some strong alliances instead of alienating everyone because once the tribes merge, they are going to start voting off the stronger tribe members and Judd will be one of the first to go. Next tribal council, Jeff should put a muzzle on Judd so everyone gets a shot at talking, including Jeff himself. At the very least, the muzzle would hide that stupid smirk whenever someone gets voted off.

[felix]

thursday bump ..

[Hanniganite]

Argh, too bad Yaxha lost the immunity challenge. Stupid sand digging...
Hopefully there's some internal breakdown with Nakum (i.e. Jamie and Crud) otherwise Jesus/Danni/Brandon are pretty much done. The way I see it, Rafe and Lydia are pretty much the swing votes. If Gary sticks with the trio and they can get those 2 useless sheep on their side, then they're fine. But of course it's a lot easier for Gary to jump back to his old 'tribe' and simply be a part of 7 rather than the minority. The people I dislike the most in order are Crud, Lydia, Jamie, Rafe, Cindy/Steph (i.e. the 2nd Nakum tribe). Hope one of Jesus/Danni/Brandon makes it far :cool:

[felix]

Just finished watching it. I think Danni, Brandon, Gary, Steph, are doing well. I guess leadership really helps in this game. At least now Steph won't be complaining about her team losing any more. :)

[felix]

Thursday night bump! :)

[Mgz]

Thursday night bump! :)


Jamie MUST GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, what a dick!!!


too bad alliance trust 4tw :(

[SLOGAN]

OMFG!
I cannot believe that Jamie didn't go!

Even that nerdy guy (Dude with glasses annoying voice) voted for brandon, after he clearly expressed his discontent with jamie. I don't understand why brandon went? I think there is something going on due to the fact that Jamie and bobby john are fueding...coincedentially jamie stays...fuel interest?

[mingcourt]

The former Nakun tribe could vote for Jamie and still have the advantage...

I would have convinced them so that he would not be on the jury (not deserving of it) and then the other players would respect you more for it.

[realize]

they call this reality TV?


only in america

=x

[felix]

Anyone else think might be they purposely put this combination of "weak" players together so that Stephanie would come out on top for ratings?

[B40]

Anyone else think might be they purposely put this combination of "weak" players together so that Stephanie would come out on top for ratings?

http://www.geckotales.com/horoscopehomer1.jpg

[Wildfire]

Question :

What would have happenned in they all chose to eat so no one did the challenge? lol

I guess Probst would say: "Screw you guys, I'm going home".

[Hanniganite]

Argh, I now hate the 6 even more so for not voting Jamie out. Cindy and Rafe are just arse-monkeys in my mind. There was no reason to not vote out Jamie. All that respect, heart crap was just them trying to look good. Steph/Judd/Cindy/Lydia/Rafe coulda looked at it this way: you vote out Jamie, you're still 5-4. If they're afraid of being labeled a traitor or whatever, look at it this way: you've now switched alliances and you're still up 5-4. Dunno why Gary/Brandon/Jesus/Danni didn't try to convince them that way. Also dunno why Rafe/Lydia/Cindy/Steph/Judd are too stupid to realize being in the top 5 (if they switched) is better than top 6 (by sticking to the alliance). Only logical thing I can come up with is they all hope to make final 2 with him and since everybody'll hate him they can win that way. Rafe/Lydia/to an extent Cindy are this season's undeserving coattail riders. Really really really hope none of them make final 4. Hopefully Jesus/Danni can find the idol or something. After finally seeing the most deserving player win last season, it's frustrating watching this one.

[Hanniganite]

Go Danni Go...or Gary. This sucks, there are so many people I don't want to win but the 2 I like are likely the next to go. Dunno why Gary didn't call out Judd and his lying about where the idol was hidden at tribal just to stir things up. I guess he could save it for when he really feels like he's a goner.

[Rometiklan]

Go Danni Go...or Gary. This sucks, there are so many people I don't want to win but the 2 I like are likely the next to go. Dunno why Gary didn't call out Judd and his lying about where the idol was hidden at tribal just to stir things up. I guess he could save it for when he really feels like he's a goner.

Exactly. Leverage. Knowledge is power. If he called out Judd at tribal council, Judd would have time to think of a counter-attack, and Gary would have a target on his back for the next TC. Why stir the pot if he doesn't have to? If Gary doesn't win immunity next week, then he's got a trump card up his sleeve. He can turn Judd's alliance on its ear if they all knew Judd was lying to them.

Gary is pretty smart. He's the eyes and ears of the tribe. He heard one thing, and observed another thing, and had the smarts to deduce Judd's lie. Which is pretty funny considering Gary has told the biggest lie throughout this season so far, and he flat out told Jeff he has not told a lie yet.

[felix]

Which is pretty funny considering Gary has told the biggest lie throughout this season so far, and he flat out told Jeff he has not told a lie yet.
Same with Judd. I wonder, it seems Jeff's questions are so obvious in pointing out what only the audience sees which are usually the big plays in the game ... do the castaways know this? Or are there just a lot of questions he asks which get edited out that we don't see?

[Hanniganite]

Blindsided! Muahahahaha. Finally Lydia proves useful in some respect. Funny seeing Jamie and Judd as the only cluless ones.

A final 6 alliance? That's all fine and dandy near the start of the game but when you're down to 9, 8 people, why wouldn't you want to explore some options for smaller alliances? As long as you're always in the majority, nothing wrong with breaking up the big group. Best to have a very solid and certain 3 and go from there.

Good to see Gary/Danni still in it. Hope they don't all get obsessed with the "he/she's a threat" idea and let Lydia slip all the way into the final 3/4. Most undeserving contestant to get far since that girl scout leader made final 2 (and thankfully lost).

[B40]

Blindsided! Muahahahaha. Finally Lydia proves useful in some respect. Funny seeing Jamie and Judd as the only cluless ones.

A final 6 alliance? That's all fine and dandy near the start of the game but when you're down to 9, 8 people, why wouldn't you want to explore some options for smaller alliances? As long as you're always in the majority, nothing wrong with breaking up the big group. Best to have a very solid and certain 3 and go from there.

Good to see Gary/Danni still in it. Hope they don't all get obsessed with the "he/she's a threat" idea and let Lydia slip all the way into the final 3/4. Most undeserving contestant to get far since that girl scout leader made final 2 (and thankfully lost).

Judd should be a bit worried right now because he wasn't in on this. Physically, he is the biggest threat, so all the skinny dweebs can stick together and vote him out.

[Bopperland]

Good to see Gary/Danni still in it. Hope they don't all get obsessed with the "he/she's a threat" idea and let Lydia slip all the way into the final 3/4. Most undeserving contestant to get far since that girl scout leader made final 2 (and thankfully lost).

Hmm, I seem to recall a used car salesman who was pretty useless.

And then there was someone who rode the coattails of a hunky cowboy to victory in Australia.

There's some skill in screwing up in a key challenge and surviving. Just look at last year's winner, heh. And up against SIX girls to boot...

[Hanniganite]

Hmm, I seem to recall a used car salesman who was pretty useless.

And then there was someone who rode the coattails of a hunky cowboy to victory in Australia.

There's some skill in screwing up in a key challenge and surviving. Just look at last year's winner, heh. And up against SIX girls to boot...

Don't remember...
Australia again was too long ago..
Tom won last year...what 6 girls thing are you talking about...?

[mingcourt]

The used car salesman was in Thailand... cannot remember his exact name

The woman who rode on Colby's coattails (Colby absolutely DOMINATED it, winning 5-6 straight immunities) was Tina (Colby chose to honour his alliance even when he probably had the win over Keith, who he chose to vote out, placing 3rd)

[Wildfire]

Hmm, I seem to recall a used car salesman who was pretty useless.

And then there was someone who rode the coattails of a hunky cowboy to victory in Australia.

There's some skill in screwing up in a key challenge and surviving. Just look at last year's winner, heh. And up against SIX girls to boot...
The used car salesman, was Brian Heidek, from Thailand (he was a porn actor too) I wouldn't say he was useless at all, he won the majority of the challenges that year, and had brainwashed his entire tribe through out it all, probably one of the best winner's we've had.

The other was Tina, and yes she certainly did ride Colby's coattails the entire season, it was Colby's fault though, he basically gave her the million against his good judgement.

Don't remember...
Australia again was too long ago..
Tom won last year...what 6 girls thing are you talking about...?
I think he's behind a season lol....he's talking about the Survivor when lardass Chris won, vs. the 6 women tribe (Ami, Leann, Twila etc.)

Last year was Tom winning convincingly and probably being one of the few times, an overwhelming deserving winner start to finish, pulled it off.

[felix]

I had a feeling it wasn't Gary going tonight because Bobby Jon hinted about Gary's come back on Entertainment Tonight Canada a few days ago, and comparing him to Tom from last season.

[sonic]

Man,,what was with jamie?,,he was one paranoid freak! you could tell the game was getting to him,,i think he left just in time. :|
cindy did very good at the IC.,,I think she will surprise us~ was not surprised to see lydia had trouble in the mud. >:(

Im not really rooting for anyone in particular to win...what about you? :?:

[Hanniganite]

Man,,what was with jamie?,,he was one paranoid freak! you could tell the game was getting to him,,i think he left just in time. :|
cindy did very good at the IC.,,I think she will surprise us~ was not surprised to see lydia had trouble in the mud. >:(

Im not really rooting for anyone in particular to win...what about you? :?:

Jamie just doesn't seem all too bright period. Cindy/Rafe are good in challenges that require balance or agility and stuff...not strength which is where pretty much the others do well at (except Lydia...dunno what she can do). Haha before the challenge started, I predicted the team with Lydia would lose and sure enough...even though they had the better male tandem.

Yeah, I've found I'm not particularly fond of anyone like last year or some of the previous years. I'd go with Danni since she's been a really good competitor and hasn't done anything bad (annoying, lying, lazy, cost her team at challenges, etc). I really don't want Lydia or Judd to win...so yeah, Danni at the top, Lydia/Judd at the bottom...in between could be any order really.

[felix]

bump for new episode ..

[Wildfire]

Well, Gary certainly went out with a bang, I loved it.

First, he rips on Stephanie and makes BJ and Jamie fall over laughing, talking about how everyone has their noses so far up Stephanie's a$$.

"You can get Stephanie's autograph after the show!" :lol:

Then, when he called out Judd's lie about the immunity idol, it totally shut him up, lol, opened up everyone's eyes I bet.

I wish he'd have brought it up earlier though, probably could have swayed more votes...seemed too late in retrospect.

[felix]

Looks like everyone else voted against Gary, including his allies Danni and Lydia. Those two will be gone soon.

[Chookman]

Looks like everyone else voted against Gary, including his allies Danni and Lydia. Those two will be gone soon.

I think Danni has an edge. Remember, she had a bond with Stephanie early on in the show. I think she still has a few tricks up her sleeve.

[Rometiklan]

Looks like everyone else voted against Gary, including his allies Danni and Lydia. Those two will be gone soon.

Poor Gary. He tried so hard. He needed immunity so badly this week. He came so close to taking it from Rafe. I loved the way Gary called out Judd about his lie, but it was really born out of desperation. It was a Trump card he should have played back at camp when he was trying to sway Lydia and Rafe to swing their votes in his favour, not at tribal council. He really wasted that opportunity.

Rafe has really come to the forefront lately. He's in pretty good shape if he stays aligned with Steph and Judd, and continues to win a couple of immunities along the way.

[Hanniganite]

My opinion of Steph has certainly taken a complete 180 since the last Survivor. What a b itch. And she hasn't exactly shown any kind of prowress at challenges. Kudos to Gary for making Judd look like the tool he is...hope he's out soon but friggin' Rafe and Cindy...

Dunno how stupid Steph/Judd are that they can't see the fact that Rafe has won 3 immunities...hmm...yeah, let's vote out all the 'threats' and keep the guy who's winning everything! Rootin' for Danni and if she gets the boot, the rest of them can all go to hell for all I care :cool:

[jerryhussain]

OWNED!

Steph/Cindy should be the next to go ..

[Bopperland]

Can't stand when a tourist like Lydia flies under the radar and could become a king-maker. Or given that there are hardly any guys left, queen-maker.

Judd's bullying and deceit was his downfall, but that's him. I am surprised that the girls haven't just conspired to get rid of the guys, so as not to repeat the last Survivor result.

[YLSF]

Man.. Steph was MEAN! I mean, Judd picked her for the award,etc,etc......

You would have think Steph would have kept supporting Judd....

[Hanniganite]

Man.. Steph was MEAN! I mean, Judd picked her for the award,etc,etc......

You would have think Steph would have kept supporting Judd....

Judd's own fault. He made it easy for anyone to vote for him with his little 'speech' at tribal council: "Everyone's saying they'll feel bad but they want somebody out...we're all playing to win a million dollars...someone gets voted out, good for me...whoever gets voted out is out, no hard feelings, blah blah blah" (obviously I'm paraphrasing). OK, then why'd he call them all a scumbag if no hard feelings. Oh right, things didn't go his way...boo hoo. He's too dumb to figure anything out so he doesn't deserve to last. And what a whiny little hypocrite. "It pisses me off to get lied to because the one thing I never did was lie." Really...already forgotten about getting outed for a lie last tribal? What a moron...good to see him finally go. Lydia REALLY needs to get voted out next. Go Danni Go

[jerryhussain]

Its Judd's own fault.

1. He left Rafe with Danni and Lydia, who by the way is not on the best terms with Judd and is also weak (can be swayed).
2. Judd took his place for granted, sat all day and chatted with Lydia, Danni.
3. And like Hannigate said, he topped this all off with his speech at the tribal council.

Now Steph needs to go. :cool:

[Chookman]

As much as I hate to see it, StephaME goes to the final. She's the last villian left. In the post game interviews, the previous 3 players have talked poorly of her. Judd has just been double-crossed by her. That's 4 votes against her already and a clinched victory against her. Cindy is on the outside of the voting block so she goes next. Lydia follows her to the bench because she's a long overdue target. We are left with the final 3 of Rafe, Steph and Danni. If Danni or Rafe win the final immunity, they take StephaME and win the million. If StephaME wins, it's a tough choice for her. Both opponents are well liked. She'll have to decide if her tribe alliances are worth more than competitiveness. If she dumps Rafe, she has a majority of old tribe members as voters. If she dumps Danni, she'll have to do something like argue that Rafe was too soft and didn't outplay her. She'll also have to overcome the fact that she's had a second try at the game. I think the voters won't want someone with a second shot at the game winning it.

Either way, she loses. My guess is Danni and StephaME in the final two with Danni winning in a romp 7-0.

[krispy]

Wow, Judd has no class. Constantly preaching that it's just a game and then calling everyone a scumbag and hoping they get bitten by crocodiles when he gets voted out? Glad he's gone.

[felix]

Either way, she loses. My guess is Danni and StephaME in the final two with Danni winning in a romp 7-0.
I would think it should be much closer than that .. she still has a lot of people looking up to her, like her lap dog Rafe and fellow Palau survivor Bobby Jon ...

[Hanniganite]

I would think it should be much closer than that .. she still has a lot of people looking up to her, like her lap dog Rafe and fellow Palau survivor Bobby Jon ...

I don't think Jesus really respects her that much and vice versa. IMO, Danni has the most supporters of the people remaining. She's been alright at challenges (better at team than individual), she carries her weight at camp, she's alienated/pissed off NOBODY. Cindy is sorta in a similar situation...can't remember if she turned on Jamie. Lydia is the coattail rider and has been useless at challenges...has turned on people on the jury (Jamie). Steph just pissed off that big idiot Judd and Jamie as well. Ditto Rafe.

Just realized, it's 4 females, 1 male left. I think the challenges will all be up for grabs now (except Lydia..she's got like no chance at anything). Ought to be interesting. Danni makes final 2, almost a guaranteed win. Anyone else, who knows. Depends on who the other one is.

[felix]

That's why i doubt Danni will make it to the final 2 .. they should realize she's more of a threat than Steph right now.

[Rometiklan]

Glad to see Judd gone, and his little speech at tribal council made his departure all the more sweet. What a whiner...going out like a spoiled brat instead of a man. Looked good on him though. HahA!

Steph figures it's close enough to the end so that she won't benefit all that much from Judd's rewards anymore. Seems like everytime Judd won a challenge, Steph was front and center chowing down on lobster, or doing the horizontal mambo with her boyfriend...all because of Judd. Talk about a parasite. With Judd gone, Steph may actually have to start winning some challenges on her own.

[RenegadeX]

Just realized, it's 4 females, 1 male left.
Rafe's gay so he doesn't count. Judd was the last man to go, and a poor example of one, at that.

[Wildfire]

I found the strategy people used in that immunity challenge, pretty odd.

Why would Cindy keep moving forward instead of sideways, thereby limiting the amount of moves she has left? (dumb..no wonder she was gone first)

Also, if I was Danni, I would have painted myself into a corner and then when I had 1 more more left, THEN switch with whoever was in the lead at the time..thereby eliminating someone instantly...and having a huge advantage over whoever was left..

(She did still win, but it was too quick for a swap...)

Also what was with Probst, basically going "hint hint, nudge nudge" Danni, this may be a good time to switch with Staphenie dont'cha think?"

[Mgz]

I found the strategy people used in that immunity challenge, pretty odd.

Why would Cindy keep moving forward instead of sideways, thereby limiting the amount of moves she has left? (dumb..no wonder she was gone first)




she want to block danny (the miss USA sumthing/cow gurl) and (hopefully) force her to use the card..

[mingcourt]

Ugh

These people are making me sick.

Steph has got to be the biggest suckup
- "Really?!"
- "Oh, I think she made a good move"
WOW, SHUT UP. Anyone in their right mind would give the car to 4 other people to stay on their good side if they want to make it to the finals.

Lydia... why is she even in the game?
- "I think Cindy made the right move"
Wont even comment on Lydia... friggin annoying though.

[jerryhussain]

OWNED!

Steph/Cindy should be the next to go ..
Another b*tch down, just one more to go. :cheesygri

Long live the curse especially when it comes to people like Cindy/Steph. :lol:

[GemInite]

i missed it today who won imuunity and who got the boot?

[Wildfire]

i missed it today who won imuunity and who got the boot?
Cindy won Reward and was awarded a new car.
Probst gave her an ultimatum, keep the car, or give your car away so the other 4 (Steph, Lydia, Rafe, Danni) all get a car.
Probst mentioned lots of nonsense about their being a curse on those who win cars in the past seasons (No car winner has ever won on Survivor) to scare her.

After much thinking, Cindy said screw the curse, and chose to keep the car, and chose Steph to come along on a feast.

Much bitching ensued, mostly from Rafe, (saying he'd have given the car away)
and Cindy was booted.

Steph won Immunity.

-------

Personally, I think it was dumb that Cindy kept the car and chose not to give the others cars, and it's not even for any moral reason or strategy reason whatsoever.

They drove in an initial car, to show her what she won right right?
They drove in 4 more additional cars after Jeff's ultimatum didn't they??

There were 5 in total!
Obviously, they were gonna give Cindy a car anyways, if she gave the others cars, DUH.

Dumbass can't count :lol:

[Jump]

There were 5 in total!
Obviously, they were gonna give Cindy a car anyways, if she gave the others cars, DUH.

Dumb move, girl can't count.


I figured that too. Plus the reward wouldn't have made much sense if she didn't have her own car. Course if she gave them the cars she could have gone in Steph's car but still...

[Chookman]

The first step in my scenario is accomplished. Now we know Rafe has control of StephaME's vote. Lydia goes next week as the outsider/overdue one. In the final three, I'm guessing StephaME wins immunity and figures she has no shot against Rafe and chooses Danni to go with her to final two. StephaME suffers the biggest F2 defeat in the history of Survivor 7-0.

She has burned Jamie, Cindy and Judd for sure and will have burned Rafe if my scenario plays true. Lydia can't stand her for getting all the rewards so that's 5 votes against her. Bobby John has talked poorly of her in post boot interviews and Gary would be her best chance except that Danni was Gary's #1 partner. Bobby John would be her best shot at getting at least one vote. Yikes.

[Imagine]

I bet Steph will win , I cant stand her ... they should of taken her out at the first tribal coucil .

[Wildfire]

The first step in my scenario is accomplished. Now we know Rafe has control of StephaME's vote. Lydia goes next week as the outsider/overdue one. In the final three, I'm guessing StephaME wins immunity and figures she has no shot against Rafe and chooses Danni to go with her to final two. StephaME suffers the biggest F2 defeat in the history of Survivor 7-0.

She has burned Jamie, Cindy and Judd for sure and will have burned Rafe if my scenario plays true. Lydia can't stand her for getting all the rewards so that's 5 votes against her. Bobby John has talked poorly of her in post boot interviews and Gary would be her best chance except that Danni was Gary's #1 partner. Bobby John would be her best shot at getting at least one vote. Yikes.
I agree with pretty much everything you said, except maybe Steph gets Cindy's vote, because she actually went and tried to warn her that Rafe was turning everyone against her. So maybe 6-1
Aside from that, Danni in a landslide over Steph sounds like a good call. (no way, they'd give it to someone who's played twice)

[tonychau]

the cars are used to buy vote!
If she have won Survivor at the end she could use the $1 million to buy whatever cars she could buy. It is just stupid and selfish of her.

So the Survivor's car reward is still remain curse?


I figured that too. Plus the reward wouldn't have made much sense if she didn't have her own car. Course if she gave them the cars she could have gone in Steph's car but still...

[Rometiklan]

I wish one of those drivers of the Pontiacs had lost control, and mowed them all down, starting with Probst. :D

[Mgz]

Cindy won Immunity and was awarded a new car.
Probst gave her an ultimatum, keep the car, or give your car away so the other 4 (Steph, Lydia, Rafe, Danni) all get a car.
Probst mentioned lots of nonsense about their being a curse on those who win cars in the past seasons (No car winner has ever won on Survivor) to scare her.

After much thinking, Cindy said screw the curse, and chose to keep the car, and chose Steph to come along on a feast.

Much bitching ensued, mostly from Rafe, (saying he'd have given the car away)
and Cindy was booted.

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Personally, I think it was dumb that Cindy kept the car and chose not to give the others cars, and it's not even for any moral reason or strategy reason whatsoever.

They drove in an initial car, to show her what she won right right?
They drove in 4 more additional cars after Jeff's ultimatum didn't they??

There were 5 in total!
Obviously, they were gonna give Cindy a car anyways, if she gave the others cars, DUH.

Dumbass can't count :lol:

1) would the other 4 people would give away Cindy 1 MILLION BUCK because she gave them a stinkin' car? I'm bad at math but 1 million buck > a SUV

2) Even if she gave away the car.. she only has 1/5 chance to win the 1mil AND NO CAR...while the other loser would have the car and 1/5 chance to win the 1mil... she gain nothing by giving them the car plus losing her own..

3) are u the producer of the program? How do u so sure that they're gonna give Cindy the car?


i'm very disappointed in Steph... Judd invite her to enjoy the reward and Step back stab him, now Cindy invite her to enjoy the reward and she back stab Cindy again :twisted:

[Imagine]

1) 3) are u the producer of the program? How do u so sure that they're gonna give Cindy the car?



...... :D

[Wildfire]

1) would the other 4 people would give away Cindy 1 MILLION BUCK because she gave them a stinkin' car? I'm bad at math but 1 million buck > a SUV

2) Even if she gave away the car.. she only has 1/5 chance to win the 1mil AND NO CAR...while the other loser would have the car and 1/5 chance to win the 1mil... she gain nothing by giving them the car plus losing her own..

3) are u the producer of the program? How do u so sure that they're gonna give Cindy the car?


1) Okay, that was really hard to read but, I'm not even discussing strategy as I said before, I'm simply going by the fact that there was an extra car waiting for her, regardless of her decision. It was kinda obvious.

2) Had she given it up, she'd have impressed the jury, and created as sense of obligation in the next three jurors to vote for her if she was Final 2, (whom she just had awarded a brand new car to).

3) Uh, because there are 5 cars, and that would mean an extra car is left over?
Do you think they would leave that extra car there, empty to collect dust, and not offer her it as a reward for her generosity?

Obviously I'm not the producer of the show, Mark Burnett is, but if follow the show you'd see that he's got a habit of rewarding people who sacrifice a big reward for the good of the team.

He does this all the time.

The classic example was Matt in Survivor 6, when he gave up his reward with his mother to allow everyone else a visit with their loved ones, and in the end he was rewarded with a special overnight reward visit with his mom.

So there. :razz:

[GemInite]

Cindy won Immunity and was awarded a new car.

and Cindy was booted.



errr who won immunity?

[Imagine]

errr who won immunity?
that witch , Steph

[Screwball]

The first step in my scenario is accomplished. Now we know Rafe has control of StephaME's vote. Lydia goes next week as the outsider/overdue one.


I disagree that Lydia will go next.

If Danni and Rafe have any brains they will vote out Steph so they don't have to deal with her in the final immunity challenge. Where Danni and Rafe would have much better odds of lasting the longest against Lydia. As long as Stephenie doesn't win the next immunity challenge I think her time is up.

[Imagine]

I disagree that Lydia will go next.

If Danni and Rafe have any brains they will vote out Steph so they don't have to deal with her in the final immunity challenge. Where Danni and Rafe would have much better odds of lasting the longest against Lydia. As long as Stephenie doesn't win the next immunity challenge I think her time is up.
I dont think its fair that they gave Steph a second chance of winning a million dollars , c'mon are they that hard up for contestants ? She must be blowing someone .... I agree Steph is the biggest threat and they should vote her out before Lydia and Danni and Rafe go to the final 2 with a 50/50 chance .

[Chookman]

I disagree that Lydia will go next.

If Danni and Rafe have any brains they will vote out Steph so they don't have to deal with her in the final immunity challenge. Where Danni and Rafe would have much better odds of lasting the longest against Lydia. As long as Stephenie doesn't win the next immunity challenge I think her time is up.


Wrong strategy for the survivor. You want to get the person that doesn't deserve it sitting beside you. Sitting beside StephaME is a guaranteed win. You'd only boot her if you wanted to be sure of second place money. I'd be doing anything to get to the F2 with her. Everyone doesn't like her and she's on her second shot at the game. This makes her the ideal F2 opponent.

[felix]

I don't know, Steph still seems fairly well liked. Just that she messed with her own alliance. But they don't seem to know whether it's her or Rafe that's controlling the cards (I think Rafe was the one who suggested to vote Jamie out, and Danni/Rafe first suggested to vote Judd out).

[Rometiklan]

Wrong strategy for the survivor. You want to get the person that doesn't deserve it sitting beside you. Sitting beside StephaME is a guaranteed win. You'd only boot her if you wanted to be sure of second place money. I'd be doing anything to get to the F2 with her. Everyone doesn't like her and she's on her second shot at the game. This makes her the ideal F2 opponent.

I think Steph has the best chance against Lydia in the Final 2. Think about it. If the jury votes with their heads instead of their hate, they will know Steph is the stronger competitor, and is far more deserving than Lydia. Lydia is not a threat to anyone, so she has been flying under everyone's radar for far too long. If Steph is in the F2 with Rafe, or Danni, then she will probably lose the million because I think the majority of the jury will vote against her.

[GemInite]

remember in just about every survivor, the final person to win immunity ended up taking the person who deserved to be there rather than the person they knew they would win against.

When it comes down to the final 3-4 its usually honourable people left. Rafe reminds me of Rupert, everyone loved him but since rafe isnt strong physically on the outside everyone ignores him even though he won individual immunity 3 times

[felix]

remember in just about every survivor, the final person to win immunity ended up taking the person who deserved to be there rather than the person they knew they would win against.

Since when. Last season Tom took that girl who did nothing .. rather than his friend who was way more deserving (eventhough he did ask him to take her during the immunity challenge ... which i still couldn't understand why).

[sonic]

Did anyone notice the CLIP for sundays episode? Raif is CLEARLY wearing the imunuty necklace. :razz: Jeff holds up the paper with the name of the next bootee,,you can clearly see the first initial. Waht were they thinking??? :confused:

BUT,,it could ALL be a trick..right?..lol..just to FOOL us?

if steph had any brains,,she would take lydia to the final 2,,. If its down to danni & raif,,I think they are pretty even~

[Rometiklan]

Did anyone notice the CLIP for sundays episode? Raif is CLEARLY wearing the imunuty necklace. :razz: Jeff holds up the paper with the name of the next bootee,,you can clearly see the first initial. Waht were they thinking??? :confused:

BUT,,it could ALL be a trick..right?..lol..just to FOOL us?

if steph had any brains,,she would take lydia to the final 2,,. If its down to danni & raif,,I think they are pretty even~

Spoiler: I recorded this week's Survivor episode, and checked out the clip in question, and did a frame by frame slowmo out of curiosity. You're right, Rafe is clearly wearing the immunity necklace, but the first initial of the next bootee wasn't visible. :confused:

[GemInite]

Since when. Last season Tom took that girl who did nothing .. rather than his friend who was way more deserving (eventhough he did ask him to take her during the immunity challenge ... which i still couldn't understand why).


Survivor 2 Tina takes Colby to the final over keith who clearly everyone hated. Tina wins 4-3

survivor 3 kim took ethan to the final even though he was clearly more liked than lex. Ethan wins 5-2

Survivor 4 Neleh wins immunity after striking a deal with vecepia. Vecepia wins 4-3

Survivor 5 softcore pornstar Brian takes well liked clay to the final over jan and wins 4-3

Survivor 7 Girl guide Lillian takes the very much liked Sandra to the final over jon. Sandra wins 6-1 and becomes the first survivor to win without ever having a vote go against her

Survivor 10 tom takes katie over ian AFTER ian made a offer to tom to take katie to the final 2 to regain their respect. Tom could have still taken ian who was pissing everyone off.

[felix]

Thanks for the reminder ... 3 hour season finale is tomorrow right.

Rafe wins immunity again? Is that with the final 4 left?

[RenegadeX]

The biggest mistake of the last episode?
Kicking out Cindy.

No matter who you are left in the game, taking Cindy to the final-2 would pretty much guarantee you the win. I mean 4 people will be thinkig "she already won a car (and didn't give me one when she had the opportunity)" and then she wouldn't stop yakking about it afterwards when cleary nobody wanted it rubbed in their faces.

I say Lydia will win.
She sucks and is annoying, but she is a survivor.. who'd have thought she'd have made it this far??

[felix]

bump for season finale tonight! (8-11pm)

I don't see why everyone hates Steph so much. She deserves to win, even just for making it to the final 4 when they knew she was a threat since the first day. Somehow i think she was losing the challenges purposely so they don't think she's a threat. Notice how she always gets a head start in these challenges, only to lose at the very last obstacle?

[mingcourt]

8:01 on my tv guide and its still the simpsons... doesnt look like its near the end either. cbs doesnt seem to have it on either, weird?

[ABOVEtheRIM]

8:01 on my tv guide and its still the simpsons... doesnt look like its near the end either. cbs doesnt seem to have it on either, weird?


yeah same with me..very strange

[zoro69]

wtf???

[jerryhussain]

8:22pm Est ;)

[felix]

Yes ... got home just in time! Just started.

[fishlips20]

8:22pm Est ;)

That was messed up.
8:22..... what the heck!

[GemInite]

Funny how Rafe all the way up to day 38 is smart and within an hour makes 2 stupid mistakes that costs him the game.

#1 he touches the sides

#2 he releases danni of their loyalty.

What the heck was that? "I release you" Does he think danni is his slave or something?

fool

[YLSF]

I agree with what GemInite just said... what a GOOF!

[felix]

I guess people out west are still watching this.

I thought the final immunity challenge was a bit unfair. The winner clearly won due to the height advantage.

[jerryhussain]

Actually Rafe sat out for what 1 hr+ watching them battle it out, during this he might have thought about it, Steph's (fake) crying just tipped him over. He got emotionally owned there.

Whats up with contestants literally giving up after making it so far, I remember last season, the "tall guy" made a similar stupid mistake.

Anyway, Danni won so I'm not complaining. It would have been even more sweet if Steph didnt even made it to the final two. Probst "record" comment (won 10 only out of 36 challenges) in better words was "Steph, you are the biggest loser ever on suvivor." :cool:

[Jump]

I was kinda disappointed with how things played out this season. It's insane how week after week no one dared to mention about voting Steph off. Yet everyone knew she was pulling the strings. It's pretty much like how no one dared to mention voting off Boston Rob in All Stars.

Hopefully the next season will be better. The whole exile island deal seems kinda pointless though almost like when they stuck Janu on an island last season. The only way I can see it being useful is if the person exiled only meets back up with their tribe right at tribal council - this way they have no clue how the voting is going to work.

They need to come up with more unexpected twists.. not just buff/tribe switchups. The ghost tribe from Pearl Islands was a nice unexpected twist although it wasn't well recieved at first.

http://graphics.survivorphoenix.com/S12/S12logo.jpg

[Wildfire]

I guess people out west are still watching this.

I thought the final immunity challenge was a bit unfair. The winner clearly won due to the height advantage.
All the more reason to say how moronic it was to boot off Lydia rather than Danni at final 3.

Can you imagine Lydia with her short legs in that competition? She's be done in 10 minutes.

I hate Stephanie and those crocodile tears she was having when she lost the immunity...too bad Rafe couldn't see through that, and basically gave her 2nd...so gullible

[TYinYVR]

8:22pm Est

On Sunday CBS Always starts late on the east coast b/c of the NFL. Then they play the full 60 mins. Then the reg 8:00 cold case except it's survivor. And they would not start survivor on Global b/c they get it live from cbs. I get the true American Feed for the east coast time for CBS with digital.

[Hanniganite]

Missed the previous ep so had to wait to download it and watch it...muahaha to Cindy with the whole car bit.

Good to see everything go the way I thought it would and wanted to (beginning with Judd getting the boot a while back and so on). Soooo happy Lydia didn't make final 3...seems like there's always been a coaster that makes it except this time. Back-2-back Survivors where someone I liked won. Helluva lot better than friggin Amazing Race :mad: And stupid friggin Simpsons messing up my taping...a chunk of the end of the reunion got cut off thanks to that.

[Imagine]

I hate Stephanie and those crocodile tears she was having when she lost the immunity...
I hate Steph too , thank goodness she didnt win or else I'd be really pissed .Bad enough that she made it to the final 2 , I hope they dont give her a third shot at the next Survivor :mad:

[Wildfire]

I hate Steph too , thank goodness she didnt win or else I'd be really pissed .Bad enough that she made it to the final 2 , I hope they dont give her a third shot at the next Survivor :mad:
Steph's gotta be the only person who actually looks WORSE off the island then on, she looked terrible at the finale, that hair looks like something from the 80's.

Danni looked hot though, especially now that she didn't look anorexic. Speaking of which, I noticed her entire family was rather overweight....like 4-5 fairly fat brothers, I think I can understand why she's so thin now, there was never any food left on the table growing up in that household lol

I never want to see Stephanie on Survivor again, don't even mention a third time please.

I did really enjoy Judd's questions, he's hilarious lol.

Scumbags.

[Rometiklan]

Actually Rafe sat out for what 1 hr+ watching them battle it out, during this he might have thought about it, Steph's (fake) crying just tipped him over. He got emotionally owned there.

Whats up with contestants literally giving up after making it so far, I remember last season, the "tall guy" made a similar stupid mistake.

Anyway, Danni won so I'm not complaining. It would have been even more sweet if Steph didnt even made it to the final two. Probst "record" comment (won 10 only out of 36 challenges) in better words was "Steph, you are the biggest loser ever on suvivor." :cool:

She might have lost the most challenges, but she is definitely one of the best competitors ever to appear on the show if not *the* best. Put anyone else on two shows, and I would love to see how they would fare. Winning the challenges is only a small part of the game. Strategy is way more important since there can only be one winner of immunity. Going far after losing that many challenges, and still making it to that many tribal councils takes a brilliant player. :cool: :cool:

[Imagine]

Actually Rafe sat out for what 1 hr+ watching them battle it out, during this he might have thought about it, Steph's (fake) crying just tipped him over. He got emotionally owned there.Whats up with contestants literally giving up after making it so far, I remember last season, the "tall guy" made a similar stupid mistake.

Anyway, Danni won so I'm not complaining. It would have been even more sweet if Steph didnt even made it to the final two. Probst "record" comment (won 10 only out of 36 challenges) in better words was "Steph, you are the biggest loser ever on suvivor." :cool:
its funny how the guys get all soft and mushy , letting go of one million bucks are they freakin nuts ? the women are tough as nail and cunning ... remember when Colby made a lethal mistake of taking Tina to the final 2 because of their "close friendship" , she won the million bucks and didnt buy him the motorcycle she promised to him .

I'm just glad to see those 2 scumbags Lydia and Stephanie lose to Danni :)

[GemInite]

it was scary seeing them back at the CBS studios did you see how much makeup they had on? Whenever there was a close up you could literally see where the makeup ended on their faces.

That doesnt make em hot, it makes them cake faces.

[jerryhussain]

She might have lost the most challenges, but she is definitely one of the best competitors ever to appear on the show if not *the* best. Put anyone else on two shows, and I would love to see how they would fare. Winning the challenges is only a small part of the game. Strategy is way more important since there can only be one winner of immunity.
She had the "never give up" attitude last season and was competitive. This season was a whole another story.

Going far after losing that many challenges, and still making it to that many tribal councils takes a brilliant player. :cool: :cool:
Like Lydia. ;)

I'm just glad to see those 2 scumbags Lydia and Stephanie lose to Danni :)
Scumbags..
Golden.

[RenegadeX]

So, I was wrong about Lydia.. they should have at least kept her through to the endurance challenge (Steph said she had no idea what kind of challenge it would be, yeah right... it's called "watch all of the previous seasons and look for a constant!").

Rafe's pyschological game backfired on him and cost him $100,000.
But at least he was able to get a few shots in afterwards to remind Danni that it will forever be in her conscience.

Agreed that the studio makeup was overdone. They should realize that we've seen them at their absolute 'worst' (covered in mud, even) and so the completely-dolled-up look is too much of a contrast.

Steph in studio.. meh, ditch that hairstyle, girl! MUCH prefer it pulled back like we've always seen. And Danni actually looked better than Steph... wow.

Wonder if the CBS website will be doing a 'vote for your favourite' thing like they did previously.. maybe Rafe can still make his million..

[Rometiklan]

She had the "never give up" attitude last season and was competitive. This season was a whole another story.


Like Lydia. ;)



Golden.

Steph did an amazing job this season. Brilliant strategy to get to the final 2. She pissed off a few people which cost her the million, but $100,000 still isn't bad.

Lydia flew beneath everyone's radar. She was a non-threat so people were willing to carry her as long as she didn't rock the boat. That is a passive strategy, which was in total contrast to the way Steph played the game. Steph played hard, and she made some enemies which ultimately cost her. If they hadn't already come up with the phrase "girl power", they would have coined it for Steph.

[Rogue_77]

Did they have a food competition like the previous seasons? I'm trying to remember if they did or not, I just can't recall any.

Back to the finale, I couldn't recognize Danni and Steph apart with all that makeup

[Imagine]

Back to the finale, I couldn't recognize Danni and Steph apart with all that makeup
Steph was the ugly one with the frizzy hair and flared up nostrils .

[Rogue_77]

Steph was the ugly one with the frizzy hair and flared up nostrils .

I knew that. But when they showed them together, I had to pay attention, with all that makeup on, they both looked really similar to me. If it wasn't for the nose, I'dve been lost

[Wildfire]

Steph was the ugly one with the frizzy hair and flared up nostrils .
Don't forget about those god awful eyebrows, everytime I see her face, I think of Mcdonalds.

^ ^

[afong56]

Don't forget about those god awful eyebrows, everytime I see her face, I think of Mcdonalds.

^ ^

and also don't forget her constant bleating of "oh my gaaah-wd". . .

(vomit)

[talmai]

Steph was the ugly one with the frizzy hair and flared up nostrils .

and danni was the one with the newly "collegened" lips. :rolleyes:

[sonic]

yeah,,i read that she got injections...WHY?? she is naturALLY pretty,,why mess with a good thing,,duuhhh~ :confused:
stephs hair was awful,,,way too much product~
raif is an a$$,,,he threw away the million. dumb!
but all in all ,,,glad danni won~

[GT108]

Rafe's pyschological game backfired on him and cost him $100,000.
But at least he was able to get a few shots in afterwards to remind Danni that it will forever be in her conscience.



If I was Danni, I wouldn't lose any sleep over Rafe's comment.

First, Rafe tried to strategize by striking alliances with both Danni and Steph.

Then, he got soft and released Danni from her "obligation" to take him with her.

Now he is upset that he wasn't picked by Danni?

If Rafe was in Danni's shoe, he would have done the same thing for two reason...Steph was hated by more people than he, and he also have an older alliance with Steph.

This is Survivor, not a popularity contest, Rafe.