Greenpeace

[Emancipated]

Anyone support this organization? There were a couple of girls in front of my work today asking people for donations. I only stopped because the girl was kind of good looking, but that's another story.

They were soliciting donations from people and when I pressed about how many people actuall give a damn, she bluntly said, not many. Out of 10, none. Out of the course of the day, probably a few. It's not often people will actually take up the cause. She said normally, it's $30 a month. So $1 a day. I can't even justify that. I think of it in terms of what that $30 can afford me; for example, that's what I would pay for DSL a month. I'm all for protecting the natural resources and future for our ancestors, but there's absolutely no impetus for me to donate, not knowing where and how that money is being spent. Even if they said it would go towards planting new trees in some protected land, I would still need a more visceral confirmation than that. Or may be it's down to selfishness.

[whargoul]

Greenpeace and the like really aren't doing anything good, even though they like to think they are.

Think about it this way: The co-founder of Greenpeace, Dr. Patrick Moore, broke away and hasn't suppported the actions of Greenpeace for long time.

[i6s1]

If you want to help, donate it to a real conservation group. Greenpeace is a radical group that spends it money harassing whaling boats.

Try Ducks Unlimited. Or the Rocky Mountian Elk Foundation. Or something like BC's Habitat Conservation Trust Fund for your province. (www.hctf.ca) That way, your money goes to preserve habitat, which is hands-down the best way to ensure that wildlife is around for future generations.

[d_jedi]

I'm all for saving the environment, but some of the issues that Greenpeace takes a stand on are not consistant with this objective.

[Emancipated]

I'm all for saving the environment, but some of the issues that Greenpeace takes a stand on are not consistant with this objective.

There's no question in many people's minds, Greenpeace is the de facto organization behind the "save the world" mantra; they probably coined the phrase.

I'm starting to notice the area of philanthropy burgeoning as more of a business enterprise rather than the benevolent and altruistic image they're PR machines try to sell.

Greenpeace has likely teetered off the righteous path and corporatized for the worse. They're still largely percieved as they once were, or are they?

[15-20_God]

so greenpeace has now resorted to panhandling?

[dell]

The Showtime program Penn & Teller: Bullsh*t! has a few episodes that nail Greenpeace for what they really are, a big anti-corporation/anti-globalization group who use sensationalized environmental info to spread their propaganda. Tree hugging bastards.

[i6s1]

They're still largely percieved as they once were, or are they?

I don't think so. Some people do still percieve them as they used to, but this thread is proof that there is a significant amout of disdain for them. 6 posters, all at least somewhat negative about them, and nobody has said anything positive about them.

[me!]

I got stuck donating to Amnesty Interational by a "panhandler". this is not my usual donation recipients, but I guess I kinda lost it there and ended up giving them $50.

[devious9191]

I got stuck donating to Amnesty Interational by a "panhandler". this is not my usual donation recipients, but I guess I kinda lost it there and ended up giving them $50.

Amnesty International seems like a very good cause, whereas Greenpeace has often given funds to groups that are responsible for domestic terrorism.

Their hands aren't completely clean either... members of that group have illegally boarded ships, set up blockades, etc.

[me!]

Amnesty International seems like a very good cause, whereas Greenpeace has often given funds to groups that are responsible for domestic terrorism.

Their hands aren't completely clean either... members of that group have illegally boarded ships, set up blockades, etc.
I am not doubting the good efforts put forth by AI, but that is just way out of my donation circle.

[akito925]

everything they are around my building talking to people I can't donate. lol I'd spend my money on lunch.. and only have left over change.. witch is like under 20 cents..

[whargoul]

The Showtime program Penn & Teller: Bullsh*t! has a few episodes that nail Greenpeace for what they really are, a big anti-corporation/anti-globalization group who use sensationalized environmental info to spread their propaganda. Tree hugging bastards.

Yes, it's a great show to get the real story behind groups like Greenpeace and their motives. Tree hugging bastards indeed.

[sPiKyAZN]

Yes, it's a great show to get the real story behind groups like Greenpeace and their motives. Tree hugging bastards indeed.

lol so I guess everyone saw that episode? lol great show, fun yet educational. never thought i'd say that ;)

[whargoul]

I love it. I've seen every episode. :razz:

[dell]

lol so I guess everyone saw that episode? lol great show, fun yet educational. never thought i'd say that ;)

I just love it when they interview people and Penn's funny narrations like calling people F'n A-holes. I don't know how they get away with half the stuff they do. In one sense the guests can plug their products/services but on the other hand Penn would humiliate/embarrass/pwn them with his over the top voice overs.

[whargoul]

It was explained in the first episode that calling people F'n A-holes - rather than liars or scammers - would be less likely to bring on lawsuits.