View Full Version : Giuliani says to decide on White House run in 2006
devious9191
Aug 31st, 2005, 11:08 AM
SYDNEY (Reuters) - Former New York mayor Rudolph Giuliani said on Wednesday he would decide next year whether to run as a Republican U.S. presidential candidate in 2008.
"I won't decide until next year," Giuliani told a business conference in Sydney. "I can't make that decision yet, it's a little premature to make it."
Giuliani, who joined a Texas-based law firm in March, went from being a mob-busting federal prosecutor in New York to the Republican mayor who guided the city through the 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center.
Not exactly news, just wondering what you guys thought of Giuliani as republican candidate? Personally, he seems like a fantastic choice. Probably the most well known mayor in recent US history, with a good track record for New York and great leadership during 9/11.
konfusion666
Aug 31st, 2005, 11:39 AM
i haven't decided yet personally, but i think the Canadian Establishment would find him a lot more palatable than Bush.
stealth
Aug 31st, 2005, 11:40 AM
I for one would like more clarification by examples of "great leadership during 911". Not criticizing, I just want to know what he did that was that different from what another mayor would have done in the same situation before forming an opinion.
Other than some photo ops, some speeches, and a self-promoting book, i dont really know and would like to know more.
devious9191
Aug 31st, 2005, 11:53 AM
I for one would like more clarification by examples of "great leadership during 911". Not criticizing, I just want to know what he did that was that different from what another mayor would have done in the same situation before forming an opinion.
Other than some photo ops, some speeches, and a self-promoting book, i dont really know and would like to know more.
Good question, and I think it's difficult to pinpoint specific events that make 'someone a good leader'. I never really thought about it, from what I've read on the subject and seen during the actual time, I can't think of anything that he could have done better. He was calm and steadfast, and rather than let NY become paralyzed afterwards, he was the first one to take the stand and try and promote NY as a safe place to conduct business. Unfortunately because of the title of that damn book, I'm having a hard time googling specific examples, or I'd provide them, but I think in general most people consider him to have done a superb job throughout that entire thing. And even without specific examples, if most people think the same thing, that's usually enough to get votes.
danfromwaterloo
Aug 31st, 2005, 11:58 AM
Better ticket for the Presidency would be a McCain/Biden ticket. They'd win without thinking. Both men are moderate thinkers, no real huge ties to religious nuts, and are widely respected in both parties. Since its a mixed ticket, they'd scoop up the massive non-partisan moderate movement.
konfusion666
Aug 31st, 2005, 11:59 AM
Since its a mixed ticket, they'd scoop up the massive non-partisan moderate movement.
so where was the "massive non-partisan moderate movement" during the last 2 elections?
Headhunter
Aug 31st, 2005, 12:36 PM
I'd be surprised if it wasn't Guliani vs Clinton in 2008.
devious9191
Aug 31st, 2005, 01:29 PM
I'd be surprised if it wasn't Guliani vs Clinton in 2008.
Me too. Not sure if America is ready for a female president yet. Democrats would be taking a major risk, particularly since they actually have a shot at winning this election if Bush doesn't get Iraq straightened up before then.
poedua
Aug 31st, 2005, 02:13 PM
Better ticket for the Presidency would be a McCain/Biden ticket. They'd win without thinking. Both men are moderate thinkers, no real huge ties to religious nuts, and are widely respected in both parties. Since its a mixed ticket, they'd scoop up the massive non-partisan moderate movement.
Kind of long in the tooth isn't he ?
In November 2008, McCain he will be 72 years old. That's three years older than Reagan when he won his first term as president in 1980.
I know his moderate views make him the Democrats favorite Republican, but but won't his i.e pro-abortion moderate views give the Chirstian right some pause for thought ?
poedua
Aug 31st, 2005, 02:14 PM
Me too. Not sure if America is ready for a female president yet. Democrats would be taking a major risk, particularly since they actually have a shot at winning this election if Bush doesn't get Iraq straightened up before then.
What ticket ?
Guiliani / Rice ?....Clinton / ?
devious9191
Aug 31st, 2005, 02:22 PM
What ticket ?
Guiliani / Rice ?....Clinton / ?
Dunno about VP. Rice could be a good move for the republicans. She's shown herself to have brass balls from what I can see, and it may win over some of the democrat votes that want to see a woman in the vicinity of the white house. I wouldn't think that Clinton would go for VP, but that would probably be a good spot for her in the next election I think. With Clinton as VP, I don't know who they have that would run for president. Is Kerry still running the show for them?
poedua
Aug 31st, 2005, 02:39 PM
Dunno about VP. Rice could be a good move for the republicans. She's shown herself to have brass balls from what I can see, and it may win over some of the democrat votes that want to see a woman in the vicinity of the white house. I wouldn't think that Clinton would go for VP, but that would probably be a good spot for her in the next election I think. With Clinton as VP, I don't know who they have that would run for president. Is Kerry still running the show for them?
Another option is to balance the Guilani ticket with a southern conservative ( ? )
Too bad Jeb has the wrong last name - tho I heard the governor from South Carolina is in the shadows - Sanford
So goes the South, so goes the vote !
On that note, Clinton / Edwards or Edwards/ Clinton perhaps ?
Not sure if Edwards is seen as a yesterdays candidate among the Democrats or not - but he does provide balance from the South
asim99
Aug 31st, 2005, 02:39 PM
guiliani will be unacceptable for many neo-cons and christian republicans, for his moderate social views
any mayor during 9/11 would have been made into a great leader, regardless of his personal qualities
konfusion666
Aug 31st, 2005, 03:13 PM
I think David Palmer should run.
Daemar
Aug 31st, 2005, 06:01 PM
Me too. Not sure if America is ready for a female president yet. Democrats would be taking a major risk, particularly since they actually have a shot at winning this election if Bush doesn't get Iraq straightened up before then.
Think of the FEMALE votes clinton would get! ANd they can get their husbands to do pretty much whatever they want. If Hillary runs, she'll be a shoo in.
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