Pictures of a kid getting owned by his mom.

[Hulkster]

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Now this mom is at least trying to set her kid straight.

[fakishan]

?

[demha88]

lol wtf

[THe game]

One of the many great works of photoshop :lol:

[kilarney]

Discipline at its best or worst nevertheless :lol:

[Ojam]

looks real to me, lets hope it sets him straight.

[P__S__2]

lmao ahahahahahah owned hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahah

[J1M]

The plastic cup really sells this one.

[Cruel_Angel]

I LOVE IT, more parents should do this kinda stuff, too many idiot kids these days~

[WiZZLa]

Something similar was done over 10 years ago. I remember the lady losing her child to the "state" and complaining/crying on Oprah.

[LuuC]

LOL good for the mother.

[hyperion]

Good for the mother trying to straighten him up.

[ttt]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[CSR]

Good boy!

[MizTEcK]

owned into oblivion hahahaha

[Rometiklan]

With all due respect to the mother, that is just a really dumb way of instilling discipline in her kid. How does humiliating him in front of the entire neighbourhood set him straight? I just don't get it. And I wouldn't applaud the mother at all. Although, I would like to ask her why she feels she needs to punish the kid in such an overt manner. Maybe it's a socio-economic or cultural thing, but such extreme measures in child-rearing might work for that particular demographic. I guess some kids respond to "tough love".

[ragin_pyro]

Ouch..I could see that..single mom, living in bad area, not wanting her son to go bad either..she could do it.. thats pwnage tho..

[Hulkster]

With all due respect to the mother, that is just a really dumb way of instilling discipline in her kid. How does humiliating him in front of the entire neighbourhood set him straight? I just don't get it. And I wouldn't applaud the mother at all. Although, I would like to ask her why she feels she needs to punish the kid in such an overt manner. Maybe it's a socio-economic or cultural thing, but such extreme measures in child-rearing might work for that particular demographic. I guess some kids respond to "tough love".
The highschools in Asia discpline you the same way. They make you stand outside with a sign around your neck. It works.

It's not much different from a teacher singling out a student in front of everyone in the classroom and making him sit in the corner.

[eon90210]

With all due respect to the mother, that is just a really dumb way of instilling discipline in her kid. How does humiliating him in front of the entire neighbourhood set him straight? I just don't get it. And I wouldn't applaud the mother at all. Although, I would like to ask her why she feels she needs to punish the kid in such an overt manner. Maybe it's a socio-economic or cultural thing, but such extreme measures in child-rearing might work for that particular demographic. I guess some kids respond to "tough love".

what would you do in her shoes? no tv no video games no candy? yah right

[fakishan]

what would you do in her shoes? no tv no video games no candy? yah right

he would of tried to talk sense into the child because kids are just smaller versions of adults. (sarcasm).

[wanted]

:lol:

[kingsley]

With all due respect to the mother, that is just a really dumb way of instilling discipline in her kid. How does humiliating him in front of the entire neighbourhood set him straight? I just don't get it. And I wouldn't applaud the mother at all. Although, I would like to ask her why she feels she needs to punish the kid in such an overt manner. Maybe it's a socio-economic or cultural thing, but such extreme measures in child-rearing might work for that particular demographic. I guess some kids respond to "tough love".

Because if his mother didn't do that, then the 13 year old kid will go to prision like his father for stealing.

[Kerlo]

That is PURE GOLD!!

I can actually see my mother doing something like that to me when I was a kid . . . luckily I didn't steal.

[Rometiklan]

what would you do in her shoes? no tv no video games no candy? yah right

Well, what I would do in this situation really depends on who the kid stole from, but I think it would mostly follow this course.

For starters, I would talk to the kid. Ask him why he felt he needed to steal...really understand his motivations. I would also instill in the kid what I think to be morally right. Then I would ask the kid how he would feel if someone stole from him. Then, I would ask him what is the right thing to do to make up for what he did. Throughout this process, I would provide the proper guidance towards arriving at the right answer. Then I would give the kid some kind of punishment. Maybe it's no video games, who knows? I would ask if the kid thinks it's a fair consequence in relation to what he did (stealing). The consequence should be fair, but firm enough to have the kid think about what he did was wrong. Standing outside with a sign announcing his crime is humiliation.

Then, I would have the kid write a letter of apology to whomever he stole from, whether it were a storekeeper or a neighbour. This way, the kid will have to sit there and think about what he did. As well, he will be articulating his thoughts and feelings on paper. Then I would have the kid return whatever he stole, and deliver the letter personally to whomever with a verbal apology in addition to the written one. Then the kid can ask if there is any way he can repay the person. This way, the kid learns that there is a real person with real feelings when he stole from him. The kid's dignity remains intact and the shopkeeper/neighbour will have better feelings towards the kid. Throughout this process I would be there to lend support.

And what would you do, eon90210?

[Kerlo]

:arrowu: :arrowu: :arrowu: ummmmmmmmmm...........

Your response seems way too textbook . . . I don't think parenting or disciplining is that straight forward . . .

[Rometiklan]

Because if his mother didn't do that, then the 13 year old kid will go to prision like his father for stealing.

That's a really sweeping and appalling generalization. How do you know the kid is going to end up in prison like his father? The kid's 13...he made a mistake. Like we all never made mistakes at that age? I just don't agree with humiliating a kid and taking away his dignity like that.

[Rometiklan]

:arrowu: :arrowu: :arrowu: ummmmmmmmmm...........

Your response seems way too textbook . . . I don't think parenting or disciplining is that straight forward . . .

Maybe the way I described it sounds textbook because I described a process. There is no way proper guidance is that straight forward. I will fight the kid every step of the way in order to do what's right. Anyone who has a kid knows what I am talking about. It takes nurturing and patience, tempered with some wisdom.

Is there one parent on this board who would do what that mother did? Humiliate their kid in front of the entire neighbourhood with a sign that advertises that he and his father are thieves? If any parent here says that they would definitely do that, or worse, they have done it before, then I feel very sorry for your kid.

[GunnerX]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Someone doesn't get kingsley's sarcasm. Haven't had a good laugh like that in a while. Thanks kingsley. :D

[Peter Pan]

Is this the ghetto version of a dunce cap?

[GunnerX]

Maybe the way I described it sounds textbook because I described a process. There is no way proper guidance is that straight forward. I will fight the kid every step of the way in order to do what's right. Anyone who has a kid knows what I am talking about. It takes nurturing and patience, tempered with some wisdom.

Is there one parent on this board who would do what that mother did? Humiliate their kid in front of the entire neighbourhood with a sign that advertises that he and his father are thieves? If any parent here says that they would definitely do that, or worse, they have done it before, then I feel very sorry for your kid.

Wake up and smell reality dude. Most people don't go around analyzing things textbook style. Maybe you should go to Jane and Finch and convince the people there that shooting each other is demeaning and that they should be more nurturing and patient. And once they do they will have eternal wisdom!

[Rometiklan]

Wake up and smell reality dude. Most people don't go around analyzing things textbook style. Maybe you should go to Jane and Finch and convince the people there that shooting each other is demeaning and that they should be more nurturing and patient. And once they do they will have eternal wisdom!

What is your reality, Gunner? Doesn't sound like one I want to be a part of. A reality where your kids are humilated and degraded? Do you humilate your kids, Gunner? If you do, then I feel sorry for them if you feel it's okay to strip your kids of their dignity like that mother did to her kid. If you don't have kids, well I can honestly say I'm thankfull.

[GunnerX]

What is your reality, Gunner? Doesn't sound like one I want to be a part of. A reality where your kids are humilated and degraded? Do you humilate your kids, Gunner? If you do, then I feel sorry for them if you feel it's okay to strip your kids of their dignity like that mother did to her kid. If you don't have kids, well I can honestly say I'm thankfull.

Wow, quick to generalize and quick to insult. Nice! Going for the quick personal jab. LOL! Must be great to be so narrow minded.

[peroxide8888]

Last time I checked, stealing is a CRIME.

The kid will eventually get over the humiliation, and will hopefully learn his lesson. I read in a study somewhere that humiliation is the one thing children fear most; even moreso than losing a parent. It's the whole action/reaction thing; it might seem barbaric to some, but I think the method will achieve the desired results sooner than later.

[jayisthebest88]

What is your reality, Gunner? Doesn't sound like one I want to be a part of. A reality where your kids are humilated and degraded? Do you humilate your kids, Gunner? If you do, then I feel sorry for them if you feel it's okay to strip your kids of their dignity like that mother did to her kid. If you don't have kids, well I can honestly say I'm thankfull.



hey HEY, are you a parent? cause if you are not U have no right tosay anything!

[engo]

:lol:

[Futuristic_Eel]

For starters, I would talk to the kid. Ask him why he felt he needed to steal...really understand his motivations. I would also instill in the kid what I think to be morally right. Then I would ask the kid how he would feel if someone stole from him. Then, I would ask him what is the right thing to do to make up for what he did. Throughout this process, I would provide the proper guidance towards arriving at the right answer. Then I would give the kid some kind of punishment. Maybe it's no video games, who knows? I would ask if the kid thinks it's a fair consequence in relation to what he did (stealing). The consequence should be fair, but firm enough to have the kid think about what he did was wrong. Standing outside with a sign announcing his crime is humiliation.

Every child comprehends the fact that stealing is unethical, however, many regard it as a means of obtaining a desired item without much harm to anyone. Morals hardly play a factor in a child's judgement, especially in low income families where a child's mind is easily debauched due to the inherent need to survive. Chastising is simply not enough to sway the perspective that such children have adopted. Taking away his TV or video game privileges only serves to reinforce this behaviour as these children spend more time on the streets than at home and now believe that stealing will only result in a menial punishment. And no matter what you think, forced apologies are hardly ever genuine. Being seventeen (and Asian ;)), I still get punished by my parents and know which methods don't work.

If the authorities had caught that child stealing, he would have been forever labelled a "thief." That is more humiliating than a mother educating her son.

[Rometiklan]

Wow, quick to generalize and quick to insult. Nice! Going for the quick personal jab. LOL! Must be great to be so narrow minded.

Go back and re-read what you said and you accuse me of generalizing? You generalized a reality where patience and understanding takes a back seat to child-rearing that requires humiliating a child to achieve its ends. You seem to support abandoning good parenting because your reality includes people shooting at each other over at Jane and Finch, or whatever. Maybe you raise your kids like that, but in my reality, most parents are not like that. If you feel it's alright to humiliate kids, then that's between you and your kids. If you don't believe in humiliating kids, but it's okay for the mother to humiliate the kid in the pic, then the narrow-mindedness which you attribute to me doesn't even begin to describe the levels of hypocracy to which you've so clearly descended.

[mahjongmaniac]

LOL... wtf?

that's hilarious...

:lol:

[eon90210]

Well, what I would do in this situation really depends on who the kid stole from, but I think it would mostly follow this course.

For starters, I would talk to the kid. Ask him why he felt he needed to steal...really understand his motivations. I would also instill in the kid what I think to be morally right. Then I would ask the kid how he would feel if someone stole from him. Then, I would ask him what is the right thing to do to make up for what he did. Throughout this process, I would provide the proper guidance towards arriving at the right answer. Then I would give the kid some kind of punishment. Maybe it's no video games, who knows? I would ask if the kid thinks it's a fair consequence in relation to what he did (stealing). The consequence should be fair, but firm enough to have the kid think about what he did was wrong. Standing outside with a sign announcing his crime is humiliation.

Then, I would have the kid write a letter of apology to whomever he stole from, whether it were a storekeeper or a neighbour. This way, the kid will have to sit there and think about what he did. As well, he will be articulating his thoughts and feelings on paper. Then I would have the kid return whatever he stole, and deliver the letter personally to whomever with a verbal apology in addition to the written one. Then the kid can ask if there is any way he can repay the person. This way, the kid learns that there is a real person with real feelings when he stole from him. The kid's dignity remains intact and the shopkeeper/neighbour will have better feelings towards the kid. Throughout this process I would be there to lend support.

And what would you do, eon90210?

kids that young can't comprehend what an adult is trying to explain to them; it could sound to them as if they're parents are just repeating the same thing over and over again. on many occasions i've seen this put into play and it really doesn't set their mind straight, i've had myself caught in the same boat as that kid when i was a youngin and really, from at least my point of view, or what i remember of it, it was hard to burn that into my skull; only through growing up can we really learn and establish our own set of moral cokes, parents are merely, yet not entirley there, to lead us among our way.

really i dunno i'm too young to even think about it, but i'm sure there are many different factors to consider but one day surely i will

[GunnerX]

My reality involves hundreds of different races, hundreds of different cultures.
My reality involves people who are wealthy, people who scrape by, people who depend on other people, people who have no one to depend on.
My reality involves parents raised differently from generation to generation.
My reality involves society that is evolving.
My reality involves more and more dependence on technology.
My reality involves hundreds of religion.
My reality involves people who are unique, who follow trends, who look up to someone.
My reality involves a city where each block brings you from one culture to another.
My reality involves 12 year old kids pushing strollers with their babies in them.
My reality involves single parents on welfare working multiple jobs stressed to the edge of insanity.
My reality does not involve a cookie cutter.

[Emancipated]

Wake up and smell reality dude. Most people don't go around analyzing things textbook style. Maybe you should go to Jane and Finch and convince the people there that shooting each other is demeaning and that they should be more nurturing and patient. And once they do they will have eternal wisdom!

:!:

Tough love is what more kids need. Too many spoiled brats running around with carte blanche and weak parents sending them to their room with their computers, nintendo, etc.

KNOCK KNOCK, IT'S REALITY CALLING!

[MilkyWind]

Wake up and smell reality dude. Most people don't go around analyzing things textbook style. Maybe you should go to Jane and Finch and convince the people there that shooting each other is demeaning and that they should be more nurturing and patient. And once they do they will have eternal wisdom!

Do you have a kid GunnerX?

[peroxide8888]

All things said and done, the mother is sitting there with the child and there are a couple things to consider.

1.) Time is money - the mother could be doing other things e.g. job, stuff around the house, taking care of other kids etc. But no, she is taking the time to instill proper values in her wayward child. "Tough love" as it's been mentioned.

2.) This may also be costrued as potentially humiliating for the mother. Her peers walk/drive by and see this; that she has somewhat failed in raising her child.

"Tough love" as it were, is also tough for the parent. I'm sure she gets no joy in sitting there watching her kid when she could be doing other productive things.

[GunnerX]

Do you have a kid GunnerX?

God forbid if I do since Rometiklan has pointed out that I would be incompetent in raising one since I do not agree to the cookie cutter approach.

[Yaowsers]

Who do threads have to turn out this way? It was meant to be a funny post. :|

[nurse]

I think that the number of shootings in the past few months, rate of crime, general disrespect from youngsters is a shining beakon that a warm and fuzzy approach does not work for many situation. Perhaps failing to share with your playmate, but not all. Everything starts small. Perhaps he stole a candy bar, and nothing more but where that may lead to I am certain his mother does not want to wait around and see. At least she is not sitting on her hands when it comes to discipline, more should be as involved, maybe not this exact approach but something. The number of times I have seen young children out on the street way after dark is sickening. If you don't want the responsibility DON'T HAVE THEM!!!! It truly is not for all.

[jui_jui]

what the mom did is not a bad idea ~ at least to remind the son that it's a crime to steal and is something that you have to go to jail for.

[Rometiklan]

Last time I checked, stealing is a CRIME.

The kid will eventually get over the humiliation, and will hopefully learn his lesson. I read in a study somewhere that humiliation is the one thing children fear most; even moreso than losing a parent. It's the whole action/reaction thing; it might seem barbaric to some, but I think the method will achieve the desired results sooner than later.

What are you saying? That given a choice, returning the stolen item and apologizing, or humiliating himself in front of the entire neighbourhood, he would choose to stand there stripped of his dignity instead of empowering himself to do the right thing? If what you say is true, that kids fear humiliation the most, then his choice should have been easy.

[deep]

None of you even know the context of this. Do you think it likely that this is the VERY FIRST approach this woman has tried, Rometiklan? I seriously doubt it.

Maybe she's tried softer techniques and has been unable to reach the child. Maybe she loves her kid enough that anything, ANYTHING, including humiliating her child, is better than seeing another life wasted in crime and jail.

It appears that you're suggesting that what you put up above is the right way to get through to any child in any circumstance. If so, you're out of touch with reality, as suggested.

[deep]

empowering

Just seeing that word in printed form is enough to short out my BS detector.

[Rometiklan]

And no matter what you think, forced apologies are hardly ever genuine. Being seventeen (and Asian ;)), I still get punished by my parents and know which methods don't work.

If the authorities had caught that child stealing, he would have been forever labelled a "thief." That is more humiliating than a mother educating her son.


"Forced"? If the kid has any kind of moral core, then he would have some remorse for stealing. So any apology stems from some measure of sincerity. It is only disengenuous if the kid doesn't feel any remorse. By "forced", I suppose you mean getting the kid to apologize, even though he realizes what he did was wrong, but doesn't want to do the right thing in returning the item and apologizing. That's a hard thing to do for anyone, let alone a kid. Well, the best any parent can do is to be there and be supportive. I think a written apology would help the kid articulate his feelings, and would probably be easier for him than a verbal apology.

As I said in my previous post, I think a "forced" apology would have been more desireable then forcing the kid to stand there with a sign advertising his crime to the neighbourhood. Empowering the kid to do the right thing where he retains his dignity OR humiliation. What choice would you make?

[Rometiklan]

kids that young can't comprehend what an adult is trying to explain to them; it could sound to them as if they're parents are just repeating the same thing over and over again. on many occasions i've seen this put into play and it really doesn't set their mind straight, i've had myself caught in the same boat as that kid when i was a youngin and really, from at least my point of view, or what i remember of it, it was hard to burn that into my skull; only through growing up can we really learn and establish our own set of moral cokes, parents are merely, yet not entirley there, to lead us among our way.

really i dunno i'm too young to even think about it, but i'm sure there are many different factors to consider but one day surely i will

When I was 13, I was in high school. You can't tell me a kid at 13 is too young to understand what his/her parent is trying to explain to them.

[Rometiklan]

My reality involves hundreds of different races, hundreds of different cultures.
My reality involves people who are wealthy, people who scrape by, people who depend on other people, people who have no one to depend on.
My reality involves parents raised differently from generation to generation.
My reality involves society that is evolving.
My reality involves more and more dependence on technology.
My reality involves hundreds of religion.
My reality involves people who are unique, who follow trends, who look up to someone.
My reality involves a city where each block brings you from one culture to another.
My reality involves 12 year old kids pushing strollers with their babies in them.
My reality involves single parents on welfare working multiple jobs stressed to the edge of insanity.
My reality does not involve a cookie cutter.

Your reality sounds just like my reality. Only difference is: you seem to approve of humiliating kids, and I don't. But whatever works for you and your kids.

None of you even know the context of this. Do you think it likely that this is the VERY FIRST approach this woman has tried, Rometiklan? I seriously doubt it.

Maybe she's tried softer techniques and has been unable to reach the child. Maybe she loves her kid enough that anything, ANYTHING, including humiliating her child, is better than seeing another life wasted in crime and jail.

It appears that you're suggesting that what you put up above is the right way to get through to any child in any circumstance. If so, you're out of touch with reality, as suggested.

If you go back and re-read my first post in this thread, I said that some kids in certain cultures or demographics might respond to tough love. So if that's what it takes to set this kid straight, then all the more power to the mother. I do not approve of her methods. Granted, I do not know the context of that situation, but then again, neither do you. In my first post, I said I would like to talk to the mother to understand why she needed to humiliate her kid, was it entirely necessary, what the context of the situation is...what other methods has she tried. So if I were trying to understand the context of the situation, who better to ask than the mother since she was the one who put the kid there in the first place?

When I said what I would do in that situation, I was merely responding to eon's question. That's what I would do, and I don't expect other parents to do the same thing as Gunner says with his "cookie cutter" reference. I just happen to think the lesson could have been learned without resorting to humiliation.

So when you say the parent is trying ANYTHING to teach her kid a hard lesson, where do you draw the line? Okay, in your books, humiliating the kid is alright, but do you approve of corporal punishment? How about starving the kid? Locking him up in the basement/closet? How far would that mother have to go before you call the cops? I wouldn't call the cops on that mother, but I would definitely want to know the context of that situation.

Just seeing that word [empowering] in printed form is enough to short out my BS detector.

Why's that?

[Kerlo]

Who do threads have to turn out this way? It was meant to be a funny post. :|


Yaowsers indeed!

[dakota2001]

Personally I do not think I could do that.

But as another poster mentioned, who knows if this is his first offence?
Plus what if he ate what he stole? can't return it.
What if he doesn't own video games, or a t.v to take away as punishment.

I am not agreeing with her method, but as a single mom, probley working hard just to make ends meet, & provide a decent life & education for her son, only for her to be humiliated that he has to steal.

Not every parent watches Dr phil.

What better way to teach a child.
He humiliated her by making her look like she was a bad parent & raising a theif.
So she humiliated him.

I am not in support of her method of teaching him, but she is teaching him a lesson.
do not humiliate someone, if you do not like to be humiliated.

I know being smacked in a store full of people by my mom.
embarrassed the crap out of me. & I still hate what she did, but i never acted up in a store again.
& I choose to walk out of the store & go home with my kids before I would do that, but I have the luxery of my husband going back to the store to get what I needed.
Not all parents have the luxery of having someone else takeover.

Some times parents feel desperate to take desperate measures.

At least the mother is sitting there with him, & probley talking to him about what he did, while he is there.

A picture can only tell us so much.

[fuhreal]

I'm a new dad. If I lived in an area where my son knew alot of the neighbours then I think this would be a good punishment. Personally i think its better than beating your kid. It will be remembered more. Physical punishment vs mental, mental is greater as the sting from a spank goes away alot faster.

However, if this fails, and the child does commit the theft again...then a beating is deffinately called for IMO.

Any of you who are saying to yourself, i would talk to him understand how he feels, why he had to do this or that..... YAH RIGHT!!!! With the amount of time this world requires you to be at work, clean the house, cook, balance your check book so many things, sitting down and saying.. "Ok johnny what made you steal the cash register drawer?" ......

Kids aren't dumb.... the will say anything to get themselves out of trouble... its a survival skill that all intelligent people have.

If you had a relationship with your child that would allow you to sit down and talk to them about the situation..... they wouldn't have stolen in the first place.

[Chookman]

Reason and logic and apologies etc. might work with some cases but in other cases the child will just learn to play the game and push the envelope farther. It may happen that he knows he can do something wrong and he'll be able to get away with an insincere apology. The key to rectifying the situation is finding what the child values as currency. I don't mean currency as in money but what he can't live without. Once you know that, you've got him. If he values free time, then he goes and works every weekend for the person he stole from for a month. If he values TV, you take out all the TV's from the home for whatever length of time and you fill in TV time with chores. The whole key to controlling children is to make sure your will is stronger than theirs. If they know you mean business and can predict what you will do when a consequence is needed (both positive and negative), and you won't waiver (very important), they will toe the line. If they know they can break you, or you'll not follow through at all costs to the bitter end, then you're sunk.