Gr 11 Math

[wanted]

During course selection, my math teacher advised that "Function and Relations" is a REALLY REALLY hard class. People less than 95 need not apply ... can anyone confirm? He told us stories about how classes cut down to 15 students by middle of the year due to drop-outs. Also, class averages become <60.

:|

Can anyone confirm.... :(

edit: what was your mark in gr10 if you took the class?

[poppa]

The only difference is FandR has one additional unit, i think it's called conex or something.

Anyway, just wait til you get to gr 12...that's where the real hard stuff comes ;)

[KennethToronto]

I'm sure it's just a hyperbole. Probably wants fewer students enrolled = less work.

[wanted]

yep, locis and conics. i think.

hmmm, the 2nd reply....interesting.
they'd lie that much? :(

[netgeek]

I took functions and relations and it was the easiest and funnest math course that I ever took. I also got my highest math mark in that course. At times it can be very challenging but its preparing you for Advanced Functions and an Intro. to Calculus

EDIT: Conics are really really easy

[vacitah]

During course selection, my math teacher advised that "Function and Relations" is a REALLY REALLY hard class. People less than 95 need not apply ... can anyone confirm? He told us stories about how classes cut down to 15 students by middle of the year due to drop-outs. Also, class averages become <60.

:|

Can anyone confirm.... :(

edit: what was your mark in gr10 if you took the class?

it is hard class if u dont pay attiention in
i would say 95 is a bit to steep but 75-80 is more realistic
out of a class of 22 we had 18 people after dropouts

i had..
75 in grade nine
90 in grade ten
91 in grade 11
85 in grade 12 calc

btw i am going into grade 12 now

do ur work and ur going to be fine and conics is very easy and a waste of time

[IvanAndreevich]

IRRC Math 11 is a very boring class (it was some years ago so..). It's going to be hard if you get bored easy.

[yan84]

what is function and relation ? :confused:
5 years ago I took gr 11 math in summer school and got a whopping 99% :lol:

[demha88]

for some ppl its hard others its not. my friend got an 85 in gr academic, and emded up failing F&R

[ryan123]

i got 100 in gr10
92 in gr11 f&r
94 in gr 12 calculus. Trust me grade 11 is pretty easy, but my teacher keeps on telling me gr12 calculus is easier than f&r

[StoneColdWhat]

Its not so hard if you pay attention, that 95% is bull.

[civ@uw]

The course material itself is not difficult, its just that you have to stay on top of your homework. I think a lot of people do poorly or drop out is because they underestimate the transition from Academic to University Prep classes. Teachers stop checking if you do your homework everyday, leaving you to be responsible for it, and they dont give out as many quizzes and other things that inflate marks. Mixed classes are pretty much like the Academic classes from grade 9 and 10, where theres more babying by the teacher.

[nsd]

94 Gr 11 Enriched (MCR3U3 I think it was).
83 Gr 12 AP Calc
80+ Gr12 Algebra and Geometry (can't rem exactly my mark, doesn't really matter).
Point is math courses from high-school are a pure joke in Canada, and they're not even taught properly, from what I've seen, experienced and heard. In some Eastern European countries' Gr 11 math they do what is taught at U of T in MAT157 and 240, all in a year. Funny part is everyone gets it, and almost nobody fails (2-3 students out of 25-30). For non UofT students, those are two of the hardest math courses that you can take in your first year.

[bananaman]

Do you mean MAT137 which is Calculus! ?

[ryan123]

consider most of the people on RFD are asians, i guess thats why it seems so easy for us. It's true many people had difficulties with it but our class average was over 70. I guess it's possible for ur school's average to be less than 60 if everyone is not so bright

[nsd]

No, I mean MAT157, which is Analysis I.
http://www.math.toronto.edu/~drorbn/classes/0405/157AnalysisI/index.html
137 is easy compared to 157, if you would believe that. The only numbers that you see in 157 are the page numbers (that's how theoretical and abstract it is ;)).
As for ryan123's racist comments, you need to analyze the system better, if you think you get high marks because you're asian ;)

[ryan123]

people who came from asia and europe do get ahead start on math compare to students in Canada. This is obviously a fact. Go to a grade 11 math class in China then got a grade 11 math class in Canada, u will clearly see the differences. Chinese students learn multiplication in grade 1.

[nsd]

Same with Eastern Europe, just like I was saying. Though that does not make asian or european kids "smarter". It's not the canadian kids' fault the system is built this way.

[Fantaz]

Math is so easy! Take Functions & Relations and make sure you do all the questions the teacher assigns. Just try and do lots of work and what I love is that you can listen to music while doing it.

[JuJu5522]

It really depends on your teacher, I'd say. Some are really tough, others not.

I got 87% but the average was probably 70-75. You just gotta keep up on the homework.

[gq_fuzion]

i took functions in grade 11 and was still allowed to take algeo in grade 12

[wanted]

i took functions in grade 11 and was still allowed to take algeo in grade 12

You mean geo and discrete?
Wierd, f&r is required in most schools.

[babyswtz]

I thought F&R was alrite, it wasn't hard nor was it easy. Also, it really depends on your teacher, because some teachers can explain it really good and you would understand, but if u have a crappy teacher teaching you then your pretty screwed hehe =p

I thought calc was easier then F&R

[stooples_employee]

During course selection, my math teacher advised that "Function and Relations" is a REALLY REALLY hard class. People less than 95 need not apply ... can anyone confirm? He told us stories about how classes cut down to 15 students by middle of the year due to drop-outs. Also, class averages become <60.

:|

Can anyone confirm.... :(

edit: what was your mark in gr10 if you took the class?

I'm not the best in math and i got about 81 in Functions and Relations
now, this depends on what you are planning to go into (university wise)
if the program you are going in requires Discrete Math (Algeo) then you NEED to take functions and relations, otherwise, if you take FUNCTIONS, you can still get into Calculus and Data Management (Finite Math)

I did terrible in Calc.. 65%, and Data Mgmt ... 74%...
I dropped Discrete Math in the 3rd week cause I didnt understand anything, got 7/30 on first quiz/test...

i skipped classes after end of march when i got early admission into Ryerson lol... this was double cohort, so i was happy and yea, i went to maybe one or two classes a week? and attended tests and stuff

Oh my math marks in gr 10 was 80, wasnt that high.
I'm a Slacker

[smuncky]

ull be fine if u do ur homework

i cant stress that enough...DO YOUR HOMEWORK and then ull get a 75 ez

alot of the stuff u learn in gr11 will be carried over to gr12 calculus

[LL29]

ITS EASY
if u think its hard, wait til u see university calc
so u might as well take the hardest HS calc w/ the mentality that its easy b/c once ur in university
HS is a joke

[nkwu]

as a student who just finisehd taking grade 11 math last year(I dropped a whopping 20 perdcen tform grade 10 to 11), I can safely say, homework is the key. I slacked off, and barely made a 74. I shaped up in the exam and think I am adequately prepared to take grade 12 calc and the such(with some more review before school starts), homework is the key. If you do the homework, it is not hard to get a 90(but math always came easy to me....except this year).

This could be differnt in your school though, because I know our math head has noted that there has been a significant drop in the whole school from grade 10 to 11 math. In grade 10, they didn't push us hard enough. I think the biggest difficulty was for us to adapt to such a big jump in work(as opposed to a very slow pace in grade 10). Grade 12's pace seems a bit better, and from what I have heard is actually easier(because the foundation is set).

And, if you are gonna take Data Management, do it in the summer or something, it is the easiest grade 12 math, and easiest math I have taken in my life. IMO you don't need any of grade 11 math to take it.

[Newt]

If you cant handle HS math, forget about University level...


HS Math is based on effort. Put in the time to do hwk and study for tests and the results will follow.

Can't say the same for University T_T