View Full Version : When ordering at McDonalds...
taro-chan
Aug 9th, 2005, 03:53 PM
Just a heads up for all that order at McDs.
Remember... when ordering McDeal either do 1 of 2 things:
1. Make your order special by adding more ketchup, no pickles, extra mayo remove it yourself later). This will avoid the condiment soaking into the bun and making the bun nasty. The soaking will happen if the thing is stilling in the bin too long. Note: extra tomato/lettuce will cost 10c more I think. (don't ask why, there is a reason)
2. Tell them to cook NEW meat. It'll take 5-7 minutes depending on the sandwich. They will put down new meat on the grill for you and that ensures hot food. This can be done with fries as well. If they make up excuses, tell them you are willing to wait for the sandwich. Nothing they can do about that.
Other tips:
- Breakfast burritoes are made at 4-5 in the morning and nuked when ordered. The mix comes in a sealed bag that contains egg, sausage, peppers.. etc.
- McChicken is grind up misc chicken parts. It essentially was the old style McNugget but bigger. It contains every part of the chicken meat including soft bones.
- BigXtra's seasoning is dependent on the person on the grill. Usually ordering without salt on the BigXtra will get you a fresh patty. The burger tends to fall apart during the cooking suggesting too much fat.
- Ordering fries without salt ensures fresh fries. There is nothing worse then getting too salty fries.
- Try to order in the way they punch it in. Sandwich -> Fries -> Drink. Then go and mod the burger. Using their language helps. BigX, Mac, Chicken, Filet, Quarter with, Quarter without.. etc. and complete one combo then move on to the next one.
- If you find burger/fries cold, swap it. They'll do it within reason. (1-2 bites)
- Breakfast Bagels are loaded with liquid butter. If you don't want it, tell them no butter.
- You can swap bacon for sausage and vice versa at breakfast at no cost.
- During overnight hours, don't come between the hours of 3-5. The food has been sitting around too long. Peak overnight hours are 1-3.
- The oil is (was?) animal based. It was solid in room temperature. They DO have vegi oil that you can request to fry in. However, that will take at least 10 minutes to change.
- 3.99 and under before tax will only get a 8% tax. However, if its over 3.99 then the tax is at 15%. So break up your order if you are ordering McDeal combo and extra sandwich. Saves you some change.
If anything is wrong, feel free to correct me. lol.
15-20_God
Aug 9th, 2005, 04:02 PM
or you can just avoid the McArtery clog altogether.
pandaharo
Aug 9th, 2005, 04:07 PM
Do they put anything funny in the twist cone? Thats the only thing I buy there bascially.
Absolute
Aug 9th, 2005, 04:07 PM
That was quite an interesting read, thanks! Did you used to work there?
Moberator
Aug 9th, 2005, 04:11 PM
#1 makes no sense to me. :confused:
Cafe_333
Aug 9th, 2005, 04:14 PM
Do they put anything funny in the twist cone? Thats the only thing I buy there bascially.YOU GUYS STILL HAVE THE TWIST CONE?!?!? :mad: :mad: :mad:
This upsets me because they got rid of chocolate here in Toronto years ago.... we can only get vanilla.
wanted
Aug 9th, 2005, 04:14 PM
Probably from an email fwd.
Cafe_333
Aug 9th, 2005, 04:15 PM
#1 makes no sense to me. :confused:what's not to understand? the longer the burger sits on the counter before it is given to the customer, the longer the juices, sauces, ketchup/mustard/relish, grease, etc.,etc., will soak into the bread, making it less appealling than a burger fresh off the grill.
NDman
Aug 9th, 2005, 04:17 PM
YOU GUYS STILL HAVE THE TWIST CONE?!?!? :mad: :mad: :mad:
This upsets me because they got rid of chocolate here in Toronto years ago.... we can only get vanilla.
No kidding! I was very surprised they got rid of it. Now everytime I go to the BlueJays game, my girlfriend and I almost always go for a twist cone at the icecream truck there on Front St.
Absolute
Aug 9th, 2005, 04:20 PM
If you force them to grill you a new burger/make new fries, doesn't the chance of a foreign substance being included with your food dramatically increase?
amberjill
Aug 9th, 2005, 04:20 PM
When we go to McD's we always ask for fresh fries. And I always get my Q.Pounder plain, just meat, cheese, bun.
Headhunter
Aug 9th, 2005, 04:25 PM
If you force them to grill you a new burger/make new fries, doesn't the chance of a foreign substance being included with your food dramatically increase?
Oh, that comes standard. :twisted:
DarkReaper
Aug 9th, 2005, 04:37 PM
I didn't realize about the $3.99 tax thing. I usually just avoid McDonalds but I only eat there if there are no other restaurants around.
peterbrowne
Aug 9th, 2005, 04:37 PM
I always ask for no big mac sauce
good suggestions
Moberator
Aug 9th, 2005, 05:56 PM
what's not to understand? the longer the burger sits on the counter before it is given to the customer, the longer the juices, sauces, ketchup/mustard/relish, grease, etc.,etc., will soak into the bread, making it less appealling than a burger fresh off the grill.
Yes, I understand the part about the sauces soaking the bread.
I specifically don't get this line : Make your order special by adding more ketchup, no pickles, extra mayo remove it yourself later).
:confused:
Keelie
Aug 9th, 2005, 07:22 PM
Yes, I understand the part about the sauces soaking the bread.
I specifically don't get this line : Make your order special by adding more ketchup, no pickles, extra mayo remove it yourself later).
:confused:
if you ask for certain things you will likely get a freshly made up burger rather than one that is sitting there ready.
that is how i take it anyways.
i dont put salt on my fries so i always ask for no salt.. they are always fresh and hot. but its rare that i go anyways.
taro-chan
Aug 9th, 2005, 07:40 PM
Probably from an email fwd.Nope. Personal experience and worked there when I was in Highschool.
If you force them to grill you a new burger/make new fries, doesn't the chance of a foreign substance being included with your food dramatically increase?No, because it is McDonald policy to have the food assembly line open to view. Therefore even if you don't see it, someone else will. Also, they just don't have the time to care.
if you ask for certain things you will likely get a freshly made up burger rather than one that is sitting there ready.Yup. That's why you do it. The heater inside is hotter then the bin
Do they put anything funny in the twist cone? Thats the only thing I buy there bascially.The ice cream mix is the same mix as the shake mix. The machine is just colder to make the ice cream. Avoid getting shakes/ice cream early in the lunch hour. 11ish. The first shake/ice cream is never good.
1CBCsoul
Aug 9th, 2005, 07:43 PM
- 3.99 and under before tax will only get a 8% tax. However, if its over 3.99 then the tax is at 15%. So break up your order if you are ordering McDeal combo and extra sandwich. Saves you some change.
haha thats a good point thx for sharing :D ... now i can order 2 mcdeals and save money lolz XD...
mrmoe
Aug 9th, 2005, 07:43 PM
what about the cookies?
how can i get the fresh ones?
taro-chan
Aug 9th, 2005, 07:45 PM
what about the cookies?
how can i get the fresh ones?There's no way to tell the muffins/cookies unless you get it first thing in the morning. Just like pies, they are cooked when the supply is low.
demha88
Aug 9th, 2005, 07:48 PM
they tried to charge me for mac sauce once
djspazz
Aug 9th, 2005, 08:00 PM
Wow, a thorough analysis on how to get fresh McD's food. An oxymoron if you ask me... :cheesygri But, I like some of their food, so I ain't complaining...
CSR
Aug 9th, 2005, 08:02 PM
Half of those things are common sense, but thanks for the reminder.
me!
Aug 9th, 2005, 08:02 PM
also when ordering your drink, always ask for a small. refills are free.
taro-chan
Aug 9th, 2005, 08:22 PM
Half of those things are common sense, but thanks for the reminder.Well... when I see people order esp McDeal, they just order normally. It makes me wonder about it.
also when ordering your drink, always ask for a small. refills are free.20 cents difference. The combo is broken down into "EVM" status. The sandwich will be EVM Big Mac with reduced cost, the coke and fries will stay as Medium Coke and Medium Fries. So essentially, it makes no difference. I get a refill when I leave and a medium holds more then a small. You can probably still ask for "Child Coke" (happy meal size).
mrmoe
Aug 9th, 2005, 09:09 PM
also when ordering your drink, always ask for a small. refills are free.
I normally swipe a used drink from an empty table and bring it up for a refill when I buy the mc deal sandwich.
jayisthebest88
Aug 9th, 2005, 09:29 PM
I normally swipe a used drink from an empty table and bring it up for a refill when I buy the mc deal sandwich.
and thats why your so popular
Emancipated
Aug 9th, 2005, 11:01 PM
Other tips:
- McChicken is grind up misc chicken parts. It essentially was the old style McNugget but bigger. It contains every part of the chicken meat including soft bones.
- The oil is (was?) animal based. It was solid in room temperature. They DO have vegi oil that you can request to fry in. However, that will take at least 10 minutes to change.
If anything is wrong, feel free to correct me. lol.
I use to eat the grizzle (sp?) from KFC when I was in school, but that's a sure way of getting some disease like Mad Cow (not from poultry, but the reasoning is that the bone (soft or otherwise) contain bone marrow and it can be harmful).
About the request to have the oil change, I think that's untrue. It's simply not cost effective. Why don't they maintain two fryers, one with oil and one with animal. Are you suggesting they will drain the animal oil and put in vegetable oil because someone "requests" it? No way, no how - atleast not the McDonald's I know.
taro-chan
Aug 9th, 2005, 11:07 PM
I use to eat the grizzle (sp?) from KFC when I was in school, but that's a sure way of getting some disease like Mad Cow (not from poultry, but the reasoning is that the bone (soft or otherwise) contain bone marrow and it can be harmful).
About the request to have the oil change, I think that's untrue. It's simply not cost effective. Why don't they maintain two fryers, one with oil and one with animal. Are you suggesting they will drain the animal oil and put in vegetable oil because someone "requests" it? No way, no how - atleast not the McDonald's I know.You can't be sure there aren't any softbones I think. I've had chewy and softbone like little pieces in my McChicken. Granted, it probably doesn't happen that offen, but it may.
No, the oil change is true. I've done it personally. Every night the oil in each fryer is drained into a portable filter that pumps it back into the fryer. It gets rid of all the fried up burnt pieces. They store that oil in the filter in this case and fill the vat with vegi oil. I've done it in the past and ya, it is a PAIN. As for cost effectiveness, the oil is always reused, so its just a matter of time. If they are busy, they can and will refuse doing it for you. However, if they have time and you really push them, they will swap the oil for you.
Emancipated
Aug 9th, 2005, 11:11 PM
Oh, that comes standard. :twisted:
And free of charge, no doubt. O yeah, that was a good burn.. gimme five! :lol:
Emancipated
Aug 9th, 2005, 11:18 PM
You can't be sure there aren't any softbones I think. I've had chewy and softbone like little pieces in my McChicken. Granted, it probably doesn't happen that offen, but it may.
No, the oil change is true. I've done it personally. Every night the oil in each fryer is drained into a portable filter that pumps it back into the fryer. It gets rid of all the fried up burnt pieces. They store that oil in the filter in this case and fill the vat with vegi oil. I've done it in the past and ya, it is a PAIN. As for cost effectiveness, the oil is always reused, so its just a matter of time. If they are busy, they can and will refuse doing it for you. However, if they have time and you really push them, they will swap the oil for you.
With McDonalds and food processing plants, it's down to economics. Processed foods will almost always contain foreign material that was no intended. The contents of nuggets, chicken fillet, etc. will be guaranteed to be grounded up well, so there's no sense in trying to "taste" if your burger has it or not.
Back to the oil, I don't think one can tell if their food has been fried in veg or animal oil. Even the most discernable eaters will not be able to tell. It's impossible. I mean, the punk behind the counter can just lie to you and say it's vegetable oil. Most, if not all people working these jobs are just happy to tell you some lie to get you going on your way.
lumlum1013
Aug 10th, 2005, 12:47 AM
- 3.99 and under before tax will only get a 8% tax. However, if its over 3.99 then the tax is at 15%. So break up your order if you are ordering McDeal combo and extra sandwich. Saves you some change.
hahaha omg.. not the 1 tax under $4 thing again! i hate it when customers purposely order every item seperately! i work as a food service cashier too and i've seen customers with 5 meals and they'd like to pay every meal seperate. it's fine if there's no line up, but when there's a huge lineup and a customer does that, pisses me off like hell!!
but anyway i'll keep the other tips in mind when i do order mcd..
jayisthebest88
Aug 10th, 2005, 01:06 AM
is that why mcdonalds fries are so nasty when they get cold?? because they are fried in animal fat...like its like whitep asty stuff on it like bacon grease or something..
Emancipated
Aug 10th, 2005, 01:58 AM
is that why mcdonalds fries are so nasty when they get cold?? because they are fried in animal fat...like its like whitep asty stuff on it like bacon grease or something..
McDonald's fries aren't actually made of completely potatoes. In fact, most, if not all fast food places (BK, Wendy's, Harvey's, etc.) have fries made from processed potatoes with added ingredients. They churn out these sticks called fries in a machine like how you make spaghetti at home. But they add cheap flour, and other ingredients. If you don't believe me, buy some fries and leave it in your fridge a few days. It will get soggy first, then the "stuff" inside these sticks will eventually melt away, like ice cream, and the outer shell is all that remains. It's like a cancer patient withering away until he's all skin and bones.
IT IS DISGUSTING.
The only place you can be absolutely sure they use 100 percent potatoes is place like New York Fries who cut the fries right then and there.
Headhunter
Aug 10th, 2005, 02:11 AM
McDonald's fries aren't actually made of completely potatoes. In fact, most, if not all fast food places (BK, Wendy's, Harvey's, etc.) have fries made from processed potatoes with added ingredients. They churn out these sticks called fries in a machine like how you make spaghetti at home. But they add cheap flour, and other ingredients. If you don't believe me, buy some fries and leave it in your fridge a few days.
Trust me, we believe that McDonald's isn't exactly made with Grade A products. If they even use a grade within the first half of the alphabet, I'd be esctatic. As it is, I accept that whatever beef-like animal I'm ingesting at their eateries probably ranks just above Mad Cow meat.
taro-chan
Aug 10th, 2005, 06:25 AM
Back to the oil, I don't think one can tell if their food has been fried in veg or animal oil. Even the most discernable eaters will not be able to tell. It's impossible. I mean, the punk behind the counter can just lie to you and say it's vegetable oil. Most, if not all people working these jobs are just happy to tell you some lie to get you going on your way.That's true. You can't really tell, however, things fried in animal oil will taste better due to a meaty taste. It's really hard to notice unless you have them side by side. Also, you are correct. Most of the ppl that work there are just dumb.
hahaha omg.. not the 1 tax under $4 thing again! i hate it when customers purposely order every item seperately! i work as a food service cashier too and i've seen customers with 5 meals and they'd like to pay every meal seperate. it's fine if there's no line up, but when there's a huge lineup and a customer does that, pisses me off like hell!!I don't really mind. It wasn't that hard at McDonalds because the cash there allowed for multiply bills and 1 total.
McDonald's fries aren't actually made of completely potatoes. In fact, most, if not all fast food places (BK, Wendy's, Harvey's, etc.) have fries made from processed potatoes with added ingredients. They churn out these sticks called fries in a machine like how you make spaghetti at home. But they add cheap flour, and other ingredients. If you don't believe me, buy some fries and leave it in your fridge a few days. It will get soggy first, then the "stuff" inside these sticks will eventually melt away, like ice cream, and the outer shell is all that remains. It's like a cancer patient withering away until he's all skin and bones.Reminds me of a fry we found once. It was a good 12 inches long. Do you think there is a 12 inch long potatoe?... lol
Trust me, we believe that McDonald's isn't exactly made with Grade A products. If they even use a grade within the first half of the alphabet, I'd be esctatic. As it is, I accept that whatever beef-like animal I'm ingesting at their eateries probably ranks just above Mad Cow meat.Well, I think you are wrong. McDonald's is a multinational company. It has to have a certain level of food or else it will not meet the requirements for food and safety. Also, just like yourself, everyone has be critizing them for their meat, so they know that they have to step up on the level of the grading. They can't just give you bad meat, the chances of catching something will ruin McDonalds. It just doesn't make sense to save money on meat and risk losing a multi-million dollar franchise.
Cafe_333
Aug 10th, 2005, 07:46 AM
Yes, I understand the part about the sauces soaking the bread.
I specifically don't get this line : Make your order special by adding more ketchup, no pickles, extra mayo remove it yourself later).
:confused:Keelie hit the nail on the head. Basically if you ask to customize your order in anyway, it is guaranteed to come to you fresh. You could always 'ask' for a fresh burger anyway, but you never know if it is. ;)
samj1
Aug 10th, 2005, 08:28 AM
Hmm...didn't know you could get drink refills. Silly me.
remmuh
Aug 10th, 2005, 09:33 AM
yah. i always ask for a smile..
get the goods by doing that.
Tofu Drift Shinji
Aug 10th, 2005, 09:44 AM
Very informative, OP. Thanks!
I worked in fast food a while ago (A&W), and basically, if you make a big enough fit about anything that's wrong with your order, they will, 9 times out of 10, fix it for you. I know that's how it worked at my place.
Another tip for fast food users, that at least rings true at A&W, is that they will always serve the Drive Thru customers first, even if you're in front of the counter and still waiting for your meal. The idea behind that is the people at Drive Thru are more impatient and want their food stat. So if you want your food ASAP, go to the Drive Thru.
What you learn when you work in fast food is that in the end, it's really, really disgusting. A lot of people shrug that off, but when you're on the other side of the counter, you know the truth. It may taste good, but that's all the chemicals in the processed cheese/sauce/meat that makes it taste good.
You don't think about it then when you're there because you have to deal with it, but when you're not working there anymore, and you look back, damn... it's pretty nasty... maybe it was just my experience of having a franchise owner breathing down my neck at all times.
taro-chan
Aug 10th, 2005, 09:51 AM
Another tip for fast food users, that at least rings true at A&W, is that they will always serve the Drive Thru customers first, even if you're in front of the counter and still waiting for your meal. The idea behind that is the people at Drive Thru are more impatient and want their food stat. So if you want your food ASAP, go to the Drive Thru.
What you learn when you work in fast food is that in the end, it's really, really disgusting. A lot of people shrug that off, but when you're on the other side of the counter, you know the truth. It may taste good, but that's all the chemicals in the processed cheese/sauce/meat that makes it taste good. Drive thru does get priority in line. The reason they do this is for the quick service time. Each store in the region is given a chart they fill out per hour for the average time a car comes to drive thru. It is a competition/rewards thing for the store and hence all priority will go to the drive thru. When I was doing drive thru, our average time for the hour would be under 10 seconds from the time the order is punched it to the time the order was paid. >.>... yes.. I cheated in a way. I calculated all of the cost in my head, repeated the order to customer then when he pays me, i quickly punch the entire order in seconds and use a second cash for the money.
also, the fried items are like the only thing I eat at McDs if I go. I don't like the burgers and if you see the grills grease pits, you'll understand. But its a burger, its bound to have gease
microBe
Aug 10th, 2005, 11:22 AM
What you learn when you work in fast food is that in the end, it's really, really disgusting. A lot of people shrug that off, but when you're on the other side of the counter, you know the truth. It may taste good, but that's all the chemicals in the processed cheese/sauce/meat that makes it taste good.
That's true with most non-fastfood restaurants as well. You don't see it so you tend not to think about it. And frankly, if you start thinking about it, you won't want to eat anywhere except home.
desi_man
Aug 10th, 2005, 12:40 PM
From what I remember, McDonalds was sued over their fries because they were not vegetarian fries.
It hurt the sentiments of many religious communities.
I suppose its because of the animal oil that they fried in.
So I wonder if that has been changed
duckdown
Aug 10th, 2005, 12:53 PM
"animal" oil?? wtf?
Lard you mean right? (which would be pig fat)
Headhunter
Aug 10th, 2005, 12:57 PM
That's true with most non-fastfood restaurants as well. You don't see it so you tend not to think about it. And frankly, if you start thinking about it, you won't want to eat anywhere except home.
And unless you're growing all of your own produce/raising your own meat in an isolated area, with the secure knowledge that all seeds and animal stock come from a long and untainted line without genetic modification, drinking glacier ice water...
Pretty much any way we go, we're screwed.
Headhunter
Aug 10th, 2005, 01:00 PM
McDonald's is a multinational company. It has to have a certain level of food or else it will not meet the requirements for food and safety. Also, just like yourself, everyone has be critizing them for their meat, so they know that they have to step up on the level of the grading. They can't just give you bad meat, the chances of catching something will ruin McDonalds.
I was being facetious about the quality of McDonald's meat, but it's still pretty bad. Whether it's the raw material or how it's prepared, I don't know...
Seriously, I feel physically sick almost every time I eat a burger at McDonald's. No problems at Burger King, Harvey's, etc...there's just something off about how it tastes.
It just doesn't make sense to save money on meat and risk losing a multi-million dollar franchise.
For what it's worth, car companies often leave in minor and cheap to fix defects; they figure that settling the various lawsuits would be cheaper than fixing their product. Disgusting as that is, I think those numbers are right...
microBe
Aug 10th, 2005, 01:08 PM
And unless you're growing all of your own produce/raising your own meat in an isolated area, with the secure knowledge that all seeds and animal stock come from a long and untainted line without genetic modification, drinking glacier ice water...
Pretty much any way we go, we're screwed.
Hehehe. Exactly!
taxguru
Aug 10th, 2005, 01:15 PM
- 3.99 and under before tax will only get a 8% tax. However, if its over 3.99 then the tax is at 15%. So break up your order if you are ordering McDeal combo and extra sandwich. Saves you some change.
Two pedantic corrections. :)
1. The Ontario Retail Sales tax exemption for meals applies to meals costing $4.00 or less, not $3.99. Other provinces/territories will have different rules.
2. Only the 7% GST (not 8%) will apply to meals costing $4.00 or less.
duckdown
Aug 10th, 2005, 01:55 PM
What is ANIMAL OIL? that sounds nasty
above & beyond
Aug 10th, 2005, 02:00 PM
What is ANIMAL OIL? that sounds nasty
it's lard.
Agent_J
Aug 10th, 2005, 05:49 PM
For what it's worth, car companies often leave in minor and cheap to fix defects; they figure that settling the various lawsuits would be cheaper than fixing their product. Disgusting as that is, I think those numbers are right...
yup it's true, also saw that in Fight Club hehe :cheesygri
Justin
Aug 11th, 2005, 01:19 AM
OMFG all the soft parts of the chicken are put into a McChicken including soft bones. Does that mean i am eating chicken organs along with bones? I feel sick after reading that.
Justin
Aug 11th, 2005, 01:23 AM
http://picture.funnyjunk.com/pics/chickenhead.jpg
wiggy
Aug 11th, 2005, 01:56 AM
Always wondered how one got started with the fine dining thing ...
jayisthebest88
Aug 11th, 2005, 02:21 AM
OMFG all the soft parts of the chicken are put into a McChicken including soft bones. Does that mean i am eating chicken organs along with bones? I feel sick after reading that.
I heard they sueed sawdust too as a filler!
vistaliving
Aug 11th, 2005, 09:00 AM
I heard they sueed sawdust too as a filler!
Cargill Foods makes the McNuggets for McDonalds.
http://www.cargillfoods.com/
Try asking them to confirm these rumors.
IronMac
Aug 11th, 2005, 12:02 PM
Some of the stuff that you say doesn't make any sense.
Just a heads up for all that order at McDs.
Remember... when ordering McDeal either do 1 of 2 things:
1. Make your order special by adding more ketchup, no pickles, extra mayo remove it yourself later). This will avoid the condiment soaking into the bun and making the bun nasty. The soaking will happen if the thing is stilling in the bin too long. Note: extra tomato/lettuce will cost 10c more I think. (don't ask why, there is a reason)
What condiment are you talking about??? And, of course, extras will cost more!
2. Tell them to cook NEW meat. It'll take 5-7 minutes depending on the sandwich. They will put down new meat on the grill for you and that ensures hot food. This can be done with fries as well. If they make up excuses, tell them you are willing to wait for the sandwich. Nothing they can do about that.
New meat? Again, the burgers are not sitting there for 10-15 minutes! If you go to a busy-enough MacDonald's the stuff is being pumped out all the time. No way is it sitting around!
- McChicken is grind up misc chicken parts. It essentially was the old style McNugget but bigger. It contains every part of the chicken meat including soft bones.
Uh, no. It's all-breast meat now.
The burger tends to fall apart during the cooking suggesting too much fat.
You don't cook do you? A burger falling apart usually means that it's overcooked and way too lean.
- If you find burger/fries cold, swap it. They'll do it within reason. (1-2 bites)
Seriously, are you here simply to ruin their system?
- During overnight hours, don't come between the hours of 3-5. The food has been sitting around too long. Peak overnight hours are 1-3.
Where do you get this stuff?!
- The oil is (was?) animal based. It was solid in room temperature. They DO have vegi oil that you can request to fry in. However, that will take at least 10 minutes to change.
Again, where do you get this stuff?!
No restaurant (yes, I've worked in a restaurant and I can cook) will change the oil in a fryer simply because you request it. The fact that you say that it takes 10 minutes shows that you've no idea what you're talking about.
IronMac
Aug 11th, 2005, 12:09 PM
No, the oil change is true. I've done it personally. Every night the oil in each fryer is drained into a portable filter that pumps it back into the fryer. It gets rid of all the fried up burnt pieces. They store that oil in the filter in this case and fill the vat with vegi oil. I've done it in the past and ya, it is a PAIN. As for cost effectiveness, the oil is always reused, so its just a matter of time. If they are busy, they can and will refuse doing it for you. However, if they have time and you really push them, they will swap the oil for you.
If you're going to tell us that a MacDonald's restaurant is going to change their oil from lard to vegetable simply because a customer asks them to for their order then you're a liar. Sorry.
Why? Because it can't be done, not when the oil is kept at 375 degrees Farenheit. You can't go around changing that stuff during a meal rush and I don't think it can be done even during a lull. Imagine it...several gallons of hot oil being lugged around by teenagers. Get real.
BTW, oil is re-used but it can only be re-used a certain number of times before it starts to go bad.
IronMac
Aug 11th, 2005, 12:13 PM
Back to the oil, I don't think one can tell if their food has been fried in veg or animal oil. Even the most discernable eaters will not be able to tell. It's impossible.
Lard tastes better. As far as I'm concerned, animal-based fats taste better than vegetable-based ones. Why do you think butter is such a key ingredient in making foods taste better?
IronMac
Aug 11th, 2005, 12:23 PM
Reminds me of a fry we found once. It was a good 12 inches long. Do you think there is a 12 inch long potatoe?... lol
Just because you've never seen one before does not mean it does not exist.
From the following:
http://www.potatobusinessworld.com/potato_statistics.do
- The biggest potato was grown in Germany in 1997 and weighed in at 3.2kg.
IronMac
Aug 11th, 2005, 12:27 PM
From what I remember, McDonalds was sued over their fries because they were not vegetarian fries.
It hurt the sentiments of many religious communities.
I suppose its because of the animal oil that they fried in.
So I wonder if that has been changed
A. It was because they were using a beef flavouring/fat/tallow to their fries. Not because of their frying it in lard.
B. Hurts the sentimentalities of the Hindus at the very least.
IronMac
Aug 11th, 2005, 12:31 PM
I heard they sueed sawdust too as a filler!
I'm sure that you heard this from a friend of a friend... ;)
I'm sure that you'd love this site:
www.snopes.com
IronMac
Aug 11th, 2005, 12:36 PM
Checking over the McDonald's Canada website, it turns out that they use a "blend of high quality animal and vegetable oil".
http://www.mcdonalds.ca/en/food/potato_taste.aspx
Justin
Aug 11th, 2005, 01:34 PM
what i want to know to if the organs end up in the mcchicken?
IronMac
Aug 11th, 2005, 03:51 PM
what i want to know to if the organs end up in the mcchicken?
No, it's all white meat now.
Ch28
Aug 11th, 2005, 04:42 PM
they tried to charge me for mac sauce once
That's why you ask for it right when they give you your order :D
Blazin_Sunfire
Aug 11th, 2005, 04:44 PM
hey, u know those yogurt parfaits, the sticker date on the top. Is it when it was made? or expired?
Headhunter
Aug 11th, 2005, 05:09 PM
hey, u know those yogurt parfaits, the sticker date on the top. Is it when it was made? or expired?
Damn good question, I'd like to know this too.
me!
Aug 11th, 2005, 05:15 PM
hey, u know those yogurt parfaits, the sticker date on the top. Is it when it was made? or expired?
well, if it is a date in the future, then it is obviously the expiry date. :D
Headhunter
Aug 11th, 2005, 05:33 PM
well, if it is a date in the future, then it is obviously the expiry date. :D
Did you miss the press release for McD's Future Frogurt?
me!
Aug 11th, 2005, 06:07 PM
Did you miss the press release for McD's Future Frogurt?
uhmmmm, yes. :|
please inform me!
gordholio
Aug 16th, 2005, 01:05 PM
if you ask for certain things you will likely get a freshly made up burger rather than one that is sitting there ready.
that is how i take it anyways.
i dont put salt on my fries so i always ask for no salt.. they are always fresh and hot. but its rare that i go anyways.
If anything, I'd want more pickles on my hamburger, not less.
As for salt, they already salt the french fries absurdly anyway, so no more salt is good. Sometimes, I'll put a bit of salt on the burger to give it a bit more flavour though.
jadoocian
Aug 17th, 2005, 12:35 AM
as someone already stated, its not pig fat in the fries
it's 100% beef fat.
at least it was 5 years ago when I worked there
I had to carry a box of it once and i remember it like yesterday
Ingredients:
100% beef fat
also, it is true that something screwy coulda happened to your food, i was working once, and saw a guy drop the top of a bun of a hamburger on the floor, he picked it up, checked to see if anyone saw, no one did so he threw it back on the burger...
i was new at the time...i didnt wanna say anything, and i wasnt gonna eat it...
that being said, i still eat there
taro-chan
Aug 17th, 2005, 08:10 AM
No, it's all white meat now.Isn't that the Nugget? I've never heard of them changing the meat in the McChicken.
Just because you've never seen one before does not mean it does not exist.Fine. I stand corrected on that one. I really doubt McD found a 12 inch long potatoe anyways and made 1 fry in a bag out of it.
If you're going to tell us that a MacDonald's restaurant is going to change their oil from lard to vegetable simply because a customer asks them to for their order then you're a liar. Sorry.
Why? Because it can't be done, not when the oil is kept at 375 degrees Farenheit. You can't go around changing that stuff during a meal rush and I don't think it can be done even during a lull. Imagine it...several gallons of hot oil being lugged around by teenagers. Get real.
BTW, oil is re-used but it can only be re-used a certain number of times before it starts to go bad.
HAHAHA. Ok. You don't have to believe me. But I have worked there AND done this more then once. You can't tell me I imagined that. I've changed the oil in the fryer to vegetable oil. If you don't think its possible, well, thats just you. Like I said, I have done this, just b/c you don't think its possible doesn't mean it isn't.
Also in 24Hr stores (I don't know about stores that close), the oil is always there. Always on. They'll just filter it and add new oil in there. Technically they aren't reusing it since it's never off.
duckdown
Aug 17th, 2005, 01:25 PM
WTF?
The McChicken is NOT all nice white breast meat.. I just had one today and it was all nasty and dark in the middle
IronMac
Aug 17th, 2005, 08:11 PM
Isn't that the Nugget? I've never heard of them changing the meat in the McChicken.
They've been running TV ads on the changeover to white meat.
Fine. I stand corrected on that one. I really doubt McD found a 12 inch long potatoe anyways and made 1 fry in a bag out of it.
It's not as if they chop up a potato and then dump it into a bag. The potatoes are sliced; the fries are then placed onto an assembly line to be precooked in oil; then, they are cooled and bagged. That's why you found only one fry from that potato in that one particular bag.
HAHAHA. Ok. You don't have to believe me. But I have worked there AND done this more then once. You can't tell me I imagined that. I've changed the oil in the fryer to vegetable oil. If you don't think its possible, well, thats just you. Like I said, I have done this, just b/c you don't think its possible doesn't mean it isn't.
Also in 24Hr stores (I don't know about stores that close), the oil is always there. Always on. They'll just filter it and add new oil in there. Technically they aren't reusing it since it's never off.
You're telling us that we can ask them to change the oil from lard to vegetable when ordering. No way! Here's the process from what I remember at my family's restaurant:
A. Turn the deep fryer off and let it cool.
B. Open the tap beneath the deep fryer to let the oil stream out.
C. Clean the fryer along with all of the bits of carbon on the bottom of the deep fryer. This involves using a scrubber, lots of hot water and soap.
D. Dump in the new oil/lard and heat.
So, how is it feasible to change the oil simply because a customer wants it done?
As for the oil always being on in the deep fryers, how do they get rid of the carbon that's coating the bottoms? Also, the oil picks up the taste of whatever's fried; over time, you may filter and add more in but the flavour becomes stronger and stronger. And the oil breaks down over time. The stuff simply goes bad.
IronMac
Aug 17th, 2005, 08:12 PM
WTF?
The McChicken is NOT all nice white breast meat.. I just had one today and it was all nasty and dark in the middle
I'd complain! Was this one out of six? Or was it all of them?
Headhunter
Aug 17th, 2005, 08:33 PM
I'd complain! Was this one out of six? Or was it all of them?
...? The McChicken has always been a delicious slurry of random chicken-esque meats.
Agent_J
Aug 17th, 2005, 10:18 PM
I'd complain! Was this one out of six? Or was it all of them?
the McChicken is a sandwich, I think your thinking of the McNuggets ;)
monkey-boy
Aug 18th, 2005, 02:14 AM
Not sure if this was mentioned, but they aren't going to change the vat oil for you... FWIW, Meat oil is used for the fries and veg is used for the chicken and fish, haha.
They won't change the vat for you. It takes about 5 minutes to setup the stupid machine, another 5 to drain the oil, and depending on whether or not they clean it, another few minutes. Then, evne if they do that, the lard is hardened or whatnot and will take about 15 minutes to melt. So in short, they won't drain out a vat... they could cook your fries in the vegetable oil, but thats been used to cook all the meat product anyway... so, yeah.
The rest is norm. Mcdicks gets enough of those requests so they dont usually get too pissed. What gets on your nerves is the lady that comes once or twice during the week right at changeover (between breakfast and lunch) orders a grill chicken which takes 7 minutes and is obviously forced to wait for it, since none is made at that time and has the nerve to complain, especially with her wheat allergy which she is so paranoid about(yet comes to mcdicks ;\) and forces the workers to wear plastic gloves and not touch anything except the box and chicken piece. hahaha...
best burger I ever made? bigxtra with triple the chicken sauce, extra pickles, +mac sauce and a mcchicken patty WITH the meat patty. rofl. That had to be a dare.
IronMac
Aug 18th, 2005, 06:57 AM
Yeah, you two are right! My mistake! I thought that he was talking about McNuggets. Ironically enough, I only order #3, ie., the McChicken meal. :|
taro-chan
Aug 18th, 2005, 08:07 AM
Say what you want, but I have changed the oil myself from the vat. End of story.
And yes, the McNugget is the one that is all white meat.... not the McChicken.
xwar
Aug 18th, 2005, 06:00 PM
mmmmmm .... nuggets :cheesygri
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