Abercrombie & Fitch in coming to Toronto?

[$uperman]

I was at Sherway Gardens the other day and I saw a piece of paper... like a sign, written with a marker... that said "Abercrombie & Fitch" something... that was on a wall next where one of those Sport Chek/Foot Locker stores was.... now they are doing some kinda construction there.


Is Abercrombie & Fitch really gonna be at Sherway?

[Flipcyde]

Abercrombie and Fitch are supposed to open at Sherway Gardens and at Yorkdale. Supposedly its sister company Hollister will open at Yorkdale and Eatons Centre.

[gman]

Not sure if it is good news or bad. My wife loves A&F stuff. Now, she does not need to go south to get the stuff but it may mean she can buy A&F stuff more often. :(

[B40]

Damn there goes my McD's salary :(

[squall458]

anyone know when approx.??

[gretzky99]

A & F = overrated & overpriced.

[D.NGUYEN]

Word, another AE type store offering same type of clothing except more expensive and a dark store where you can't see anything.
QUOTE=gretzky99]A & F = overrated & overpriced.[/QUOTE]

[jb22]

I heard A&F was opening a store in downtown TO about 5 or 4 years ago but it never happened.

[flito ray]

i love their sh1ts. it's more exclusive than ae. i guess now that they coming to canada, it will no longer be exclusive :( sigh.

[Bordello]

Remember when Old Navy used to be the coolest thing around? That novelty wore off quickly.

[girlstar]

Abercrombie is my drugs. I have been in love with their clothes for 5 years now and having to make trips to the US or order online. The days of driving to Buffalo may be dwindling down but I'm happy I'll no longer have to face Customs Canada.

I'm a bit surprised they picked Sherway for AF over Eaton Centre/Yorkdale. Eaton Centre would have been my choice since it's a tourist destination and all of Canada won't have AF.

I cannot wait. They're aiming for late 2005 early 2006.

Some articles on AF entering Canada:
http://www.billingsgazette.com/index.php?id=1&display=rednews/2005/06/18/build/business/52-ab-fitch.inc
http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/stories/2005/02/28/story3.html

Now all we need is Victoria's Secret and I'll be a happy shopper.

[peppy5]

man, i remember when a & f was in vancouver and they pulled out. are there any a & f stores in canada now?

[konfusion666]

i surprised they haven't built any stores in TO already... torontonians seem to LOOOOOOVE spending money on their clothes... i guess they wanted to assure the Buffalo stores a constant stream of revenue... which will now take a hit, heh.

[FuNPoLiCe001]

my gf also loves their clothes, and it's so ridiculously expensive. I am not a huge fan of shopping their since I always feel uncomfortable in that store. It's not very...multicultural, and the staff all look like models and they just stand around not doing anything. Actually, wasn't there some big stink this year or last year about racist comments made by the designer?

But oh man...tax free week last year, we had to smuggle over about 1000 worth of stuff. Passing Canada Customs at about 1 in the morning was just great fun.

i remember walking into an A&F kids store, and my goodness its like all these 10-12 year old girls were just brainwashed...

[Absolute]

Remember when Old Navy used to be the coolest thing around? That novelty wore off quickly.
Lol, too true. Than the Gap and AE, but they're both wearing down too.

[nx2k]

i already have a bunch of their clothes and Hollister as well, it's nothing special, if i want it, i'll order it online, it's no big deal
i dunno why a clothing store would create so much buzz, i think the world is moving towards technology, don't people buy stuff online?

[rf134a]

There's a big sign at West Edmonton Mall saying that A&F is opening Canada's first and only A&F by the ice rink. I guess that's false advertising now... :|

[Beradon]

Remember when Old Navy used to be the coolest thing around? That novelty wore off quickly.Old Navy became lame the moment started selling discounted clothes that you could find in Walmart. Their commericials are incredibly annoying and turned off even more customers.

As for A & F, isn't their line catered more to the tweens and the 20-23yr crowd?

[mochachicka]

A & F = overrated & overpriced.

agreed..I don't like their merchandise all that much either.

[Absolute]

Something tells me that any deals or coupons posted for A&F on here will still leave it outside my price range.

[espeed]

A & F = overrated & overpriced.

I agree. And they have a repeated, long history of making fun of Asians and minorities in the slogans on their T-shirts. Any google search will show you that.

[Bordello]

I agree. And they have a repeated, long history of making fun of Asians and minorities in the slogans on their T-shirts. Any google search will show you that.

Check out this link (http://www.snopes.com/racial/business/tshirts.htm).

I never went into their stores in the US, their stuff doesn't really appeal to me. Just an overpriced AE and Bluenotes.

[me!]

A&F were here several years ago. went out of business (or did not renew lease) a few years after. ne'er a peep out of them back in BC.

[webdoctors]

i;m skeptical what their rpices will be, they will try to charge an arm N leg due to the exchange rates, they'll probably price da dollar like ATI does at like a 1.8:1 exchange rate or something, so don't count the sunday drives out just yet...

[B40]

Speaking of A&F, does anyone want to buy a track jacket NWT, reddish/orange letters "A. Fitch" across the chest..size L...retail is $80 US

[confused]

oh horray for frat boy gear

[gman]

I'm a bit surprised they picked Sherway for AF over Eaton Centre/Yorkdale. Eaton Centre would have been my choice since it's a tourist destination and all of Canada won't have AF.

Sherway is higher class (and $$$) than both Eaton Center and Yorkdale.

[confused]

Sherway is higher class (and $$$) than both Eaton Center and Yorkdale.

Abercrombie isn't a high class store though

[gman]

Abercrombie isn't a high class store though
High class usually mean expensive. A&F is expensive.
Yorkdale was pretty high class but it is not anymore. Just compare the food court, you can see they are different.

[girlstar]

I think Yorkdale is as classy as Sherway. Both have Holt, Sears, the Bay and mostly the same stores. Yorkdale has an edge having Coach, Lululemon, Aritzia, Marciano which are pretty $$$ too. It's probably because they couldn't secure a lease at Yorkdale since there are no large spaces.

[GateGuardian]

I think Yorkdale is as classy as Sherway. Both have Holt, Sears, the Bay and mostly the same stores. Yorkdale has an edge having Coach, Lululemon, Aritzia, Marciano which are pretty $$$ too. It's probably because they couldn't secure a lease at Yorkdale since there are no large spaces.


Can't forget FCUK...... love their t-shirts :cheesygri :cheesygri

[big_noob]

Will this mean that we will no longer have to pay the outrageous duty that a&f and hollister charge online. I did a calculation on the stuff i bought and it came out to 23% duty.

[derevaun]

aw crap! lack of exclusivity now... grr.
their pants/jeans are so comfortable though.. mmm.

[girlstar]

Hate to say it but if you buy online when they open their Canadian stores, you'll probably still have to pay duty since it will come from the US in Columbus OH. It'll probably be like if you order now from AE, I was reading their whole schpeel and you have to still pay duties.

[TinyTank]

i have never heard of Abercrombie & Fitch. They clothes are popular or something?

[confused]

i have never heard of Abercrombie & Fitch. They clothes are popular or something?

american retail chain serving to college/uni students

[sankou]

i have never heard of Abercrombie & Fitch. They clothes are popular or something?

their brand/image is all about the all-american college jock. they created a lot of controversy a few years back with their racy a&f quarterly's, which could be mistaken as a quarterly porno rag. they featured a lot of young, naked/semi-nude models, and homoerotic imagery of athletic college jocks ...it shouldn't be a surprise that a lot of their customers are gay men.

the popularity of a&f has waned over the past couple of years though ...they tried too hard to be shocking and scandalous, i think people just got bored of them. that all-american jock look is kind of passe. :lol:

[espeed]

Their clothes aren't that great, I've seen em. Quality is comparable to GAP and American Eagle, way overpriced IMO.

[Abercrombie]

I got a banging blue/brown zip-up sweater of theirs.
Says abercrombie on the front, whenever I go to places, people ask me where did I get it from.
And to whoever says it over-rated/over-priced, please stay shopping at wal-mart.
Because it's quality clothes, you get what you pay for.

I agree, for all those people who complain about this and that about Abercrombie products, I say stick to your walmart or thift stores for your clothes.

[shad0w*]

Exactly, it's priced for what it's worth.

[Anessa]

Sherway's posh but it doesn't have the reputation of Yorkdale. Sherway's food court might be more posh but most of the time, the volumes don't even compare to Yorkdale. Not to mention that Sherway is pretty much inaccessible other than with a car.

[YLSF]

I agree, for all those people who complain about this and that about Abercrombie products, I say stick to your walmart or thift stores for your clothes.

Ha.. Funny that you registered just to post that in an old thread.. especially given your username!

[cranky]

I got a banging blue/brown zip-up sweater of theirs.
Says abercrombie on the front, whenever I go to places, people ask me where did I get it from.
And to whoever says it over-rated/over-priced, please stay shopping at wal-mart.
Because it's quality clothes, you get what you pay for.

i dont think quality and Abercrombie can be used in the same sentence ;)

stylish, maybe, trendy ..yes. quality? NO

[caliente]

As some people have eluded to, you are paying for the marketing, image and for the exclusiveness of their clothing.

The quality of the clothing itself is fairly standard, but better than Gap sometimes. Mostly just cotton or cotton/polyester blends. But, their stuff is definitely young and trendy.

[shad0w*]

Sherway's posh but it doesn't have the reputation of Yorkdale. Sherway's food court might be more posh but most of the time, the volumes don't even compare to Yorkdale. Not to mention that Sherway is pretty much inaccessible other than with a car.
I'm happy with it that way, it keeps the damn kids out.

[blizzah]

I'm happy with it that way, it keeps the damn kids out.

Never gone to Sherway....heh...it's working lol.

[Abercrombie]

Sherway's posh but it doesn't have the reputation of Yorkdale. Sherway's food court might be more posh but most of the time, the volumes don't even compare to Yorkdale. Not to mention that Sherway is pretty much inaccessible other than with a car.

Nope Sherway is very accessible, you do not need to have a car to go there, for those who rely on public transit (TTC), goto Kipling subway Station and take the route 123 Shorncliffe, service is every 10 mins or better during most times. From Mississauga take Mississauga transit route 4 Applewood, I believe you can catch it at Dixie Outlet Mall.

[Abercrombie]

Ha.. Funny that you registered just to post that in an old thread.. especially given your username!

is that a crime?

[Abercrombie]

I'm happy with it that way, it keeps the damn kids out.

All mall's have their fair share of kids, kids and malls are unseperable, its a business forumula, malls with kids= revenue and capital. The only malls you can not find kids are those crappy flea markets and stip malls.

[shad0w*]

All mall's have their fair share of kids, kids and malls are unseperable. The only malls you can not find kids are those crappy flea markets and stip malls.Why are you defending the kids?

[blizzah]

Nope Sherway is very accessible, you do not need to have a car to go there, for those who rely on public transit (TTC), goto Kipling subway Station and take the route 123 Shorncliffe, service is every 10 mins or better during most times. From Mississauga take Mississauga transit route 4 Applewood, I believe you can catch it at Dixie Outlet Mall.

Thats 2 bus tickets! Might as well go to Square 1 if going all teh way to Miss.

[Abercrombie]

Why are you defending the kids?

I am not defending them, as much as I dislike their behaviour in malls, there hasn't been one mall in the Greater Toronto area without the fair share of the kids.

[Abercrombie]

Thats 2 bus tickets! Might as well go to Square 1 if going all teh way to Miss.

you can take the route 4 Applewood, however I do not know the routing, all I know is you can catch it at Dixie Outlet Mall

[espeed]

Abercrombie and Fitch stirred up a lot of problems, in the US when they made all these racist shirts against Asians.

People complained and they didn't care, and still continued to print offensive shirts.

Not sure if they still do that.

[sonick]

abercrombie, hollister, A&F is all crap, made for 'shallow pretty white folk' in the states. their target demographic is probably the guys from http://www.leehotti.com/

the CEO is some 60 year old 'dude' with torn jeans, and teeth bleached as much as his hair, with enough collagen injections into his lips to make them as big as Angelina Jolie's, sad.

http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/2006/01/24/jeffries/story.jpg

what's even more interesting is the history of A&F.

A&F used to make rugged outdoor menswear and hardware, like rifles and shotguns (some which had a price tag of over $20,000).

now its a store where their seasonal catalog is riddled with homo-eroticism, and little to do with clothing. seeing how homophobic this forum is, im surprised so many are excited and looking forward to their expansion into canada.

"It's almost everything. That's why we hire good-looking people in our stores. Because good-looking people attract other good-looking people, and we want to market to cool, good-looking people. We don't market to anyone other than that."
"Listen, do we go too far sometimes? Absolutely. But we push the envelope, and we try to be funny, and we try to stay authentic and relevant to our target customer. I really don't care what anyone other than our target customer thinks."
For the kids there's Abercrombie, aimed at middle schoolers who want to look like their cool older siblings. For high schoolers there's Hollister, a wildly popular surf-inspired look for "energetic and outgoing guys and girls" that has quickly become the brand of choice for Midwestern teens who wish they lived in Laguna Beach, Calif. :rolleyes:

When the Hollister kids head off to college, Jeffries has a brand -- the preppy and collegiate Abercrombie & Fitch -- waiting for them there. And for the post-college professional who is still young at heart, Jeffries recently launched Ruehl, a casual sportswear line that targets 22- to 35-year-olds.

just reading this article, and hearing how much of an insecure jackass he is makes me not want to buy their stuff, which he only makes for the 'popular, attractive caucasian boys and girls' who want to live in The OC:

http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/2006/01/24/jeffries/index_np.html
(click the 'read salon free NOW' link to view an ad and read the full article)

http://archive.salon.com/sex/feature/2003/11/26/abercrombie/index_np.html

[fl4wless]

High class usually mean expensive. A&F is expensive.
Yorkdale was pretty high class but it is not anymore. Just compare the food court, you can see they are different.

you clearly havent been to a versace or boss store, A&F is not high class.

[Abercrombie]

you clearly havent been to a versace or boss store, A&F is not high class.

You can't really compare versace or the boss lines of clothes to A&F. A&F is nothing compared to them.

A&F is targeted to more causal line of clothing, as far as it goes

1.A&F
2.H&M
3.Gap
4.American Eagle
5.Old Navy

[keanefan]

I agree that Abercrombie and Fitch is for WASPs (white people).

They opened a store in Montreal many years ago but it closed (maybe after 1 year). Their style back then was stuffy/preppy and not cool.

[espeed]

the CEO looks like a creep man, and that's the image he wants to present?

[mslam]

For a CEO who wants to market to the "good-looking" consumers, he should really take a good look in the mirror. :|

[Driftwood]

I walked into Hollister the other day just to see what it was like... All generic frat boy type stuff... Aren't people sick of this yet?

[Deal_Princess]

Nothing wrong with being white people.
Those tshirts made in the past by A&F were a big mistake but I have seen many asain parody shirts in other stores in Toronto along queen street. So its not just big chains like A&F who are doing this. I guess if you don't like A&F dont shop there if you think it was made only for whites? Why is it this topic comes up so much. The same thing back in the day with Tommy Hilfigure being a racist which was made up to make his sales decline.

[B40]

abercrombie, hollister, A&F is all crap, made for 'shallow pretty white folk' in the states. their target demographic is probably the guys from http://www.leehotti.com/

the CEO is some 60 year old 'dude' with torn jeans, and teeth bleached as much as his hair, with enough collagen injections into his lips to make them as big as Angelina Jolie's, sad.

http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/2006/01/24/jeffries/story.jpg

what's even more interesting is the history of A&F.

A&F used to make rugged outdoor menswear and hardware, like rifles and shotguns (some which had a price tag of over $20,000).

now its a store where their seasonal catalog is riddled with homo-eroticism, and little to do with clothing. seeing how homophobic this forum is, im surprised so many are excited and looking forward to their expansion into canada.





just reading this article, and hearing how much of an insecure jackass he is makes me not want to buy their stuff, which he only makes for the 'popular, attractive caucasian boys and girls' who want to live in The OC:

http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/2006/01/24/jeffries/index_np.html
(click the 'read salon free NOW' link to view an ad and read the full article)

http://archive.salon.com/sex/feature/2003/11/26/abercrombie/index_np.html

I think someone had a bad childhood experience with a metrosexual :|

[sonick]

I think someone had a bad childhood experience with a metrosexual :|ah ye speak too soon. of all my friends i am probably the one who is the best dressed, and the one closest to what could be deemed the term 'metrosexual'. if anything, its the people who dress well who would look down on people who wear "Abercrombie and Fitch", rather than the jocks or slobs or whatever (they would be the people who WISHED they could afford A&F)

http://new.styleforum.net/showthread.php?t=31330&highlight=A%26F
that is where i originally found the info and articles on A&F

I guess if you don't like A&F dont shop there if you think it was made only for whites?
and also its not the fact that they target only 'white folk' in their clothing. that i am fine with, its just the aarogance and narcissism of the CEO and the whole corporate culture of A&F and its snobby, stuck up, disillusioned, easily manipulated customers. i buy GAP, i used to WORK at GAP. if thats not one of the most whitewashed kinda stores, then i dunno what is. instead of shunning all people who do not fit the 'thin and attractive' image that A&F target, GAP has expanded their sizes and fits to ACCOMADATE those who are not exactly 'thin and attractive' like the new 'Straight, Original, Curvy' womens jeans. and also, the CEO of GAP isn't a flaming douchebag.

[B40]

its the people who dress well who would look down on people who wear "Abercrombie and Fitch", rather than the jocks or slobs or whatever (they would be the people who WISHED they could afford A&F)

wtf?

[sonick]

wtf?
yup you heard me. people who really cared about looking good would not buy abercrombie and fitch. just check out that link in my last post about where i originally found those articles.

many people have the same mindset as you B40, but i am trying to uncover reality, to open people's eyes. only the the general public follow the herd and mindlessly be drawn to A&F to look 'cool'.

or probably i'm just a snobby elitest myself, and so rather than continue to preach (or *****, depending on how you look at it), i shall retire from this thread, and, with the information i have provided, allow you people as consumers decide for YOURSELVES (me me deciding for you, not the TV deciding for you, not the mannequins and models deciding for you, YOU deciding for YOURSELVES).

[B40]

yup you heard me. people who really cared about looking good would not buy abercrombie and fitch. just check out that link in my last post about where i originally found those articles.

only the ignorant consumerist type people would follow the herd and mindlessly be drawn to A&F to look 'cool'.

or probably i'm just a snobby elitest myself, and so, i shall retire from this thread, and, with the information i have provided, allow you people as consumers decide for YOURSELVES (not me deciding for you, not the TV deciding for you, YOURSELVES).

So you see someone wearing A&F and you look down on them? And you don't consider yourself ignorant, but them for buying A&F?

[sonick]

So you see someone wearing A&F and you look down on them? And you don't consider yourself ignorant, but them for buying A&F?
how is a person ignorant if they look down on someone?
they would be an elitest bastard, yes.
but ignorant, i don't believe so.

instead of looking down on all the A&F fanboys and girls with my nose stuck up and walking away, i am trying to HELP and SHOW people the 'real' A&F and what their corporate mindset is.

its EXACTLY like how everybody makes fun of the guys at leehotti.com (although with this A&F situation, its not as obvious). the guys there think they look cool, but they are blind and ignorant at how stupid they look. but the people making fun are not ignorant.

or in this thread alone. people are making fun of the CEO at how ridiculous he looks. they are not ignorant, the CEO is ignorant as he doesn't realize how sad and desperate he looks.

then again, we all know the saying: ignorance is bliss.

[cheeseshredder]

...

You can apply that to all clothing related brands. What's your point?

[B40]

how is a person ignorant if they look down on someone?
they would be an elitest bastard, yes.
but ignorant, i don't believe so.

instead of looking down on all the A&F fanboys and girls with my nose stuck up and walking away, i am trying to HELP and SHOW people the 'real' A&F and what their corporate mindset is.

its EXACTLY like how everybody makes fun of the guys at leehotti.com (although with this A&F situation, its not as obvious). the guys there think they look cool, but they are blind and ignorant at how stupid they look. but the people making fun are not ignorant.

or in this thread alone. people are making fun of the CEO at how ridiculous he looks. they are not ignorant, the CEO is ignorant as he doesn't realize how sad and desperate he looks.

then again, we all know the saying: ignorance is bliss.

Because you're looking down on someone based on what brand of clothes they're wearing. The brand doesn't always tell you what kind of person one is.

[anandwww]

Is Abercrombie & Fitch really gonna be at Sherway?

who is this?? I have never heard their names before...actors??

[nsd]

Haha :D It's a clothing company.
Overpriced stuff imo. Others like it. To me it looks as crappy as American Eagle.

[blizzah]

Haha :D It's a clothing company.
Overpriced stuff imo. Others like it. To me it looks as crappy as American Eagle.

I'd say it's better than AE, who I think tries to imitate A&F, though not well since their clothes are about 30-50% of the price.

[nsd]

You're right, it is indeed better, I just don't think it's worth paying that much. For those prices I'd rather get something made in Italy.

[Bordello]

Who wouldn't want to pay $40 for a T-shirt?