Tae Kwon Do - 4 Weeks for $44.00 + Free Uniform

[someonestolemynick]

This deal is over Friday I think...

I signed up a few weeks ago and have been having a really good time. The school is located at Midland and Eglington in Scarborough. The exact address is 2551 Eglington Avenue East, phone number is 416-269-7778.

The school has 2 floors and is really nice. If you end up getting a membership, you are entitled to train at any of their 5 locations.

[someonestolemynick]

Forgot to mention the school name is Black Belt World (BBW). Master Tommy Chang is the guy in charge.

The flyer says 'offer valid with this flyer only' but that is not true (I saw the sign outside the school and went in and got the deal. :cheesygri

[CanadaBoy]

Before you sign up for 4 weeks, call 416-533-1221 and book a free trial class
for the one on Bloor Street.

The Black Belt World FREE TRIAL CLASS

Before you decide to begin your training at Black Belt World, we highly recommend that you book an appointnent for a free-trial class.

This way you will have the opportunity to see our training facilities, meet Master Tommy Chang, the instructors and students, as well as experience our training regimen and school atmosphere first-hand.

Q. How do I book my FREE TRIAL LESSON?
A. It's easy. Just call 416-533-1221 and speak to one of our instructors. He or she will arrange a time that is convenient for you and provide directions to the school.

Q.What do I need to bring to my FREE TRIAL LESSON?
A. Bring comfortable clothing (t-shirt and sweat pants) and lots of enthusiasm

[insanity]

Pretty good price...the one near our house Hashnem Tae Kwon Do is charging $275 for 6 weeks... Do you know where the 5 other locations are of this particular club ?

[ecomsherry]

Maybe you should state what kind of Taekwon-Do they teach. My kids (green belt, green stripe, and Yellow belt) study ITF. The Taekwon-do that are in the olympics is WTF. Could mean the difference to some people.

[sw1ft]

The Taekwon-do that are in the olympics is WTF.

I'm guessing this stands for World TaeKwonDo Federation (or something along those lines).. but maybe they should have used a better anagram lol

:cheesygri

[Nai]

Since I'm 'stuck' in Mississauga for the next month this would be something interesting to do to pass the time (that and I need at least some MA to contend with my gf's black belt in karate :).

What age groups would one expect for this dojo?
edit: Following the last message, specifying the style would be great as well.

[T-Man]

Google= link http://www.taekwondo.ca/main.htm

[ferkel]

doesn't he just teach kids?

[Riddick]

My kids go to Rising Sun Martial Arts in Mississauga. Its the ITF method taught by an 8th dan black belt (Richard Parris). Most important thing about the club is the master instructor so make sure they have a good reputation. Master Parris is very good with kids. We also win our share of medals at tournaments so I know our technique isn't bad.

[Captin Howdy]

I really don’t think its worth that much money going to school those types of schools. I know a few ppl that went and weren’t happy at all. If you want to learn martial arts you better of doing some research, a lot of people will tell you that place like those you buy your black belt and don’t earn it. Also when I went, these guys give you a lot of hassle, they’re going to want you to sign up for 1year etc etc. imo you’re better off paying more and going to a better school


Edit - here's a link for school reviews + info if any1 is interested...

http://www.fightingspirit.ca/forum/viewforum.php?f=19&sid=a929137be628f98e156c02276f0085db

(btw not sure if ur allowed to put up links ot other forums >< if not soz)

[RudeDoggy]

Since I'm 'stuck' in Mississauga for the next month this would be something interesting to do to pass the time (that and I need at least some MA to contend with my gf's black belt in karate :).

What age groups would one expect for this dojo?
edit: Following the last message, specifying the style would be great as well.
There's usually a lot of kids but there are definitely adult classes (which I assume you'd take part in).

FYI, it's called "do-jang" in Korean. ("Dojo" is Japanese but it means the same thing.)

[biosh]

I really don’t think its worth that much money going to school those types of schools. I know a few ppl that went and weren’t happy at all. If you want to learn martial arts you better of doing some research, a lot of people will tell you that place like those you buy your black belt and don’t earn it. Also when I went, these guys give you a lot of hassle, they’re going to want you to sign up for 1year etc etc. imo you’re better off paying more and going to a better school
Agreed - don't just be lured in by the old "free" uniform promotion - do some research, talk to club members, go to a sample lesson, make an informed choice...

[justbrowsing]

[QUOTE=RudeDoggy]There's usually a lot of kids but there are definitely adult classes (which I assume you'd take part in).



If not, he could be like Kramer from Seinfeld and just start kicking little joey's ass in the sparring competitions ;)

[Analyst]

After training and being around martial arts for 20 years, my advice to those starting off is to be careful about the big "chain" schools. Not to say all are bad, but some do mass produce. This is also so, of smaller schools, but not as much, as they are usually a bit more intimate and have a better handle of who is coming through the door / how they are doing.

The best indicator I have found is watching a black belt class. Watch them train and observe their technique. If they hold a ranking of black, they should have strong, accurate punches and kicks while maintaining their balance. If you see black belts that do not have strong balanced form (which may be hard for the inexperienced to always pick up on), then you should find another school. Good schools will only award black belts to those who have earned them, not just paid for them. I have seen many who have "sold" them. A black belt only means that you have learned the basics and you are now ready to understand the art and the application of the techniques.

The other point is, even if the master is really good, that does not mean that he is necessarily a good teacher. The best indicator is the students he brings up and how talented they are. Also watch if they possess the right philosophy. True martial arts teaches you to use your ability to help others and not to use your knowledge unless necessary. Being humble is a good thing. Some schools promote themselves as "tough guys" or the "best" and willing to prove it to others. That is a recipe for losing some teeth, as you will eventually meet up with someone better and you might get a bit of a butt kicking.

Good luck !!
:cheesygri

[mensrea]

Take something like brazilian jiu-jitsu then cross train that with thai boxing or normal boxing. You'll be an ass kicker in no time. Tae kwon do is good for sport, but not for self-defense.

check out www.bullshido.net and watch videos of "karate experts' against guy's who have been grappling for just a few years.

I wasted so much of my life on traditional martial arts, it's not even funny.

check this out:
http://www.bullshido.net/modules.php?name=Links&file=viewlinkinfo&id=117

[masterhapposai]

mr.miyagi = belts hold up pants

[mrken]

I paid almost three times that amount for my uniform! :mad: :mad: :mad: And the belts cost as much! :mad:

I wonder whether somebody can just go there for the uniform and quit afterwards? :lol:

In which dan is the Master?

[Sash[DSL]]

Take something like brazilian jiu-jitsu then cross train that with thai boxing or normal boxing. You'll be an ass kicker in no time. Tae kwon do is good for sport, but not for self-defense.

check out www.bullshido.net and watch videos of "karate experts' against guy's who have been grappling for just a few years.

I wasted so much of my life on traditional martial arts, it's not even funny.

check this out:
http://www.bullshido.net/modules.php?name=Links&file=viewlinkinfo&id=117

please elaborate on this, as in WHY is taekwondo good for sport only? The video is pretty impressive by the way but I wonder if this is just for show.

[Conky]

martial arts like twd and karate emphasize stand up skills and a lot of useless stuff like kata. if some guy knocks you on your back you're in big trouble. go down to blockbuster and rent one of the early UFC's where most of the karate/TWD bunch were dominated by amateur wrestlers/Brazilian Ju Jitsu guys.

Dont get me wrong something like Shotokan will be effective against 90% of the population but if you have to defend yourself from some charging lunatic street fighter all those hours practising kata won't help much

[guest913]

martial arts like twd and karate emphasize stand up skills and a lot of useless stuff like kata. if some guy knocks you on your back you're in big trouble. go down to blockbuster and rent one of the early UFC's where most of the karate/TWD bunch were dominated by amateur wrestlers/Brazilian Ju Jitsu guys.

Dont get me wrong something like Shotokan will be effective against 90% of the population but if you have to defend yourself from some charging lunatic street fighter all those hours practising kata won't help much


Any martial art will have its pros and cons.

It is great to learn as a form of self-defnese and exercise.
A few years back, a group 15 guys decided to pick a fight with 5 of my friends. This is the funny part, within the group of 5, one guy was ranked #1 in Canada for TKD, another was on the school's wrestling team and ranked as well for Ontario, and the 3rd guy trained in judo with an olympic gold medalist.

I am not even exaggerating but the 15 guys got beat up pretty badly by 5 guys.

[Fantaz]

If you want a real dojo then check out the Jong Park Institute of Tae Kwon-Do (http://www.jongparkhq.com) near Yonge & Bloor. Straight from the Korean creator of the martial art. It is the best school in Toronto, no doubt. These guys can train you for PrideFC, UFC, anything! May cost more than other places but it's truly worth it.

[Sash[DSL]]

martial arts like twd and karate emphasize stand up skills and a lot of useless stuff like kata. if some guy knocks you on your back you're in big trouble. go down to blockbuster and rent one of the early UFC's where most of the karate/TWD bunch were dominated by amateur wrestlers/Brazilian Ju Jitsu guys.

Dont get me wrong something like Shotokan will be effective against 90% of the population but if you have to defend yourself from some charging lunatic street fighter all those hours practising kata won't help much
whats Shotokan? What's kata?

[tharsan]

Q.What do I need to bring to my FREE TRIAL LESSON?
A. Bring comfortable clothing (t-shirt and sweat pants) and lots of enthusiasm

Where do they suggest I can pick up some of this "enthusiasm?"

[Warlock]

']whats Shotokan? What's kata?


Style/school of Karate. Shotokan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shotokan_karate)

Kata (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kata)

[someonestolemynick]

Take something like brazilian jiu-jitsu then cross train that with thai boxing or normal boxing. You'll be an ass kicker in no time. Tae kwon do is good for sport, but not for self-defense.

check out www.bullshido.net and watch videos of "karate experts' against guy's who have been grappling for just a few years.

I wasted so much of my life on traditional martial arts, it's not even funny.

check this out:
http://www.bullshido.net/modules.php?name=Links&file=viewlinkinfo&id=117
To be honest... that video was stupid... The guy wasnt doing any grapling throughout the whole thing... he was just being held in a head lock... then he got the power to lift the little guy (cause of his size maybe), and just dropped the guy... kinda dumb.

I do agree though you need grapling skills, some schools teach them as well.

[mensrea]

Look at all the other videos... grappling is where it's at...

Great story about the 5 guys against 15... my buddy was a black belt in karate and japanese (traditional) jiu-jitsu... well anyways, he came to train brazilian one day and all the white belts were kicking the crap out of him, tapping him left right and center. He quickly converted and hasn't looked back since.

[can't get 'nough dealz]

Cheungs Taekwondo in Brampton is great. Even the Canadian Taekwondo Team train there because the President of Taekwondo is the owner of the club. They have great facilities.

[Warlock]

Look at all the other videos... grappling is where it's at...


*shrug*
Not applicable.

A number of the traditional schools forbid taking part in most competitions.
Even if the instructor(s) permitted it,

Numerous traditional martial arts techniques are forbidden in those shows and many sport competitions.

Example of a traditional karate style/school, Kyokushin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyokushin)

[Alexo]

To be honest... that video was stupid... The guy wasnt doing any grapling throughout the whole thing... he was just being held in a head lock... then he got the power to lift the little guy (cause of his size maybe), and just dropped the guy... kinda dumb.The most amazing part is where the graplers dive down to grab the legs of their oponnents, exposing their backs and just inviting an elbow to the spine.
In a "real" fight, such a maneuver could earn you a lifetime in a wheelchair but the rules (http://www.ufc.tv/learnUFC/rulesUfc.asp) expressly forbid it:

Fouls:
...
9. Striking to the spine or the back of the head.
10. Striking downward using the point of the elbow.

I have a lot of respect for BJJ fighters but what you see on MMA tournaments does not represent a street fight.

I do agree though you need grapling skills, some schools teach them as well.
Indeed.

Before this thread deteriorates into "my style is better than yours", keep in mind that people have different reasons for practicing martial arts:

* Health and fitness
* Sport (competition)
* Self defence
* Be the meanest kick-ass muthaf***er in the neighbourhood.

For health and fitness, TKD, Wushu, Tai Chi, etc. can be excellent choices. Depending on your desired level of impact, you'll get a good workout, flexibility, etc.

For sport/competition, just choose the style that suits you the most and go for that medal...

For self defence, well, any full-contact style will have benefits. It's like putting winter tires on your car - some may be better than others but on ice or snow, almost any winter tire will perform better than an "all season" one.

Of course, the effectiveness of the style highly depends on the situation you find yourself in. In a 1-on-1 situation, a grappler may be able to finish the fight quickly by taking the oponnent to the ground but it may not be an option when fighting off 2 or more assailants. On the other hand, a flashy kick to the head of one attacher may give the others second thoughts.

And if you just want to go against other martial artists, you better seriously train in several styles that complement each other.

[BlackRanger3d]

Competition and real life are two different things. As Alexo said there are many rules that allow grappling to be such a dominante force in controled competitions. For example eyes, thoart, groin, nerve , knees (hitting knees), strikes are usually not allowed.

In real life situation if some one threated me or a loved one, those forbidden areas are the first areas that I am hitting, tearing, breaking.

Anyway for true self defence one needs a balance between stand up and ground skills. But most importantly a person needs experience in combat situations.

Anyway I love my Hap Ki Do. Gives me the stand up skills, and grappling/locking skills.

[Sash[DSL]]

Anyway I love my Hap Ki Do. Gives me the stand up skills, and grappling/locking skills.
damn. Im not messing with you :confused:

[mensrea]

The most amazing part is where the graplers dive down to grab the legs of their oponnents, exposing their backs and just inviting an elbow to the spine.
In a "real" fight, such a maneuver could earn you a lifetime in a wheelchair but the rules (http://www.ufc.tv/learnUFC/rulesUfc.asp) expressly forbid it:

Fouls:
...
9. Striking to the spine or the back of the head.
10. Striking downward using the point of the elbow.

I have a lot of respect for BJJ fighters but what you see on MMA tournaments does not represent a street fight.


Indeed.

Before this thread deteriorates into "my style is better than yours", keep in mind that people have different reasons for practicing martial arts:

* Health and fitness
* Sport (competition)
* Self defence
* Be the meanest kick-ass muthaf***er in the neighbourhood.

For health and fitness, TKD, Wushu, Tai Chi, etc. can be excellent choices. Depending on your desired level of impact, you'll get a good workout, flexibility, etc.

For sport/competition, just choose the style that suits you the most and go for that medal...

For self defence, well, any full-contact style will have benefits. It's like putting winter tires on your car - some may be better than others but on ice or snow, almost any winter tire will perform better than an "all season" one.

Of course, the effectiveness of the style highly depends on the situation you find yourself in. In a 1-on-1 situation, a grappler may be able to finish the fight quickly by taking the oponnent to the ground but it may not be an option when fighting off 2 or more assailants. On the other hand, a flashy kick to the head of one attacher may give the others second thoughts.

And if you just want to go against other martial artists, you better seriously train in several styles that complement each other.

good post

[Analyst]

martial arts like twd and karate emphasize stand up skills and a lot of useless stuff like kata. if some guy knocks you on your back you're in big trouble. go down to blockbuster and rent one of the early UFC's where most of the karate/TWD bunch were dominated by amateur wrestlers/Brazilian Ju Jitsu guys.

Dont get me wrong something like Shotokan will be effective against 90% of the population but if you have to defend yourself from some charging lunatic street fighter all those hours practising kata won't help much

Useless kata ? Obviously your instructor has not taught you that well if that is what you think. Kata teaches you the basics of the technique. That is what you concentrate on in pre-black belt rankings. At the black belt level, you are ready to UNDERSTAND what the kata means and HOW to use the techniques. I also learned many different patterns in the different styles of martial arts, but it is not until I started training with my ninjitsu friend / instructor that I understood the application of the techniques I learned years ago in Kung Fu. Without the basics, any technique is useless if you don't have a good foundation to build upon.

It is not necessarily always the style of martial arts, but understanding how to use it. It is a continual process, you can never learn it all.

For those of you learning, hopefully you should not be worrying about having to "kicking someone's ass" as I don't think I have had to use my ability in a situation in the 20+ years since I started martial arts. If you are worried about that "10%", you've got a serious problem. Maybe you should not be in that situation that you are dealing with that 10% or having to use it against the 90% for that matter.

That's my take on it.

[mensrea]

Useless kata ? Obviously your instructor has taught you that well if that is what you think. Kata teaches you the basics of the technique. That is what you concentrate on in pre-black belt rankings. At the black belt level, you are ready to UNDERSTAND what the kata means and HOW to use the techniques. I also learned many different patterns in the different styles of martial arts, but it is not until I started training with my ninjitsu friend / instructor that I understood the application of the techniques I learned years ago in Kung Fu. Without the basics, any technique is useless if you don't have a good foundation to build upon.

It is not necessarily always the style of martial arts, but understanding how to use it. It is a continual process, you can never learn it all.

For those of you learning, hopefully you should not be worrying about having to "kicking someone's ass" as I don't think I have had to use my ability in a situation in the 20+ years since I started martial arts. If you are worried about that "10%", you've got a serious problem. Maybe you should not be in that situation that you are dealing with that 10% or having to use it against the 90% for that matter.

That's my take on it.

The thing is is that if you did have to use it, you'd get your ass handed to you. 90% of street fights go to the ground...

[Gordon]

TaeKwonDo sucks! KARATEEEEEEEEE YEAHHHHH!!! WHATTTT!!

Actually im 2 belts away from black belt in Karate. Heh.
:D

Checkout the deals that my martial arts school has to **fer!

www.budolife.com

[BlackRanger3d]

The thing is is that if you did have to use it, you'd get your ass handed to you. 90% of street fights go to the ground...


99% of street fights are between to goofs who have no real fight training. If you fight someone with some (good) training and real world experience you will NOT take them to the ground unless you are damn good.

[BlackRanger3d]

It has been said before.

IT IS NOT THE STYLE THAT MATTERS, it is the school, instructors, and master that matter.

One word of advice, whatever style you decide to learn, if your goal is to learn self defence then you MOST spar. I would go further and say you should medium to full contact spar. Without the experience you gain from sparring you will never be effective at defending yourself

[Analyst]

The thing is is that if you did have to use it, you'd get your ass handed to you. 90% of street fights go to the ground...

I think you are missing something here. As a true martial artist, understanding the philosophy, YOU SHOULD NOT BE GETTING INTO STREET FIGHTS !!! I have not been in a "street" fight in over 25 years (since I was 11 years old) and if I did, none of my masters would be pleased as it dishonours them and their teachings. If you are getting into street fights all time, I think you have a few other problems that need to be dealt with....

I can also tell you that if it did ever happen, the opponent would be on the ground by themselves before they got a chance to get me there. Most opponents will be disabled before they got that far. A strike to the knee, sternum or if necessary in the throat and they will be down for a long time. These are vicious techniques and therefore should never be used unless forced to. If you have mastered your breaking techniques, it is easy to break bones with one strike.

[mensrea]

99% of street fights are between to goofs who have no real fight training. If you fight someone with some (good) training and real world experience you will NOT take them to the ground unless you are damn good.


That's ********, hardly any TMA show you how to defend a take down

[masterhapposai]

eye gouge + groin grabs > grappling


Even if you're experienced in grappling you need to avoid these kinds of strikes.

They're not allowed during sport/UFC type matches.

In a real street fight there's too many factors to calculate. You need a good combo of many arts to really get an edge. Some people figure this out on their own without much training, and that's why the 5 guys beat 15.

I would say the 5 guys training only helped their athleticism, which alone probably caused the win. But, it's more than that.., they were likely very smart street fighters and not just regular martial artists.

[sean222]

I signed up for the 4 weeks for $44 no tax. He said the uniform takes 3 business days. It's 2 classes a week for the 4 weeks. So I went to my first class yesterday...I've never had any martial arts training. I was given no intro to Tae Kwon Do...NOTHING! Just went right into it! In addition, the person instructing the warm up was some lady with a blue belt. Anyways...I was just told to line up and then they just started yelling these weird words which I had no idea what they meant :P

Definately not saying the school is bad...it's probably just me, I'm probably just misinformed about TKD, since I am just starting out.

So basically, all my first class was, basically just a workout...I understand that you must be physically ready for TKD, but shouldn't your mind be trained as well? This is what I complained about. The manager told me to go to an evening class with a different instructor, so I could learn more about the philosophy of TKD, I'll let you know what happens, and if I get the uniform. :)

--Sean

[masterhapposai]

I signed up for the 4 weeks for $44 no tax. He said the uniform takes 3 business days. It's 2 classes a week for the 4 weeks. So I went to my first class yesterday...I've never had any martial arts training. I was given no intro to Tae Kwon Do...NOTHING! Just went right into it! In addition, the person instructing the warm up was some lady with a blue belt. Anyways...I was just told to line up and then they just started yelling these weird words which I had no idea what they meant :P

Definately not saying the school is bad...it's probably just me, I'm probably just misinformed about TKD, since I am just starting out.

So basically, all my first class was, basically just a workout...I understand that you must be physically ready for TKD, but shouldn't your mind be trained as well? This is what I complained about. The manager told me to go to an evening class with a different instructor, so I could learn more about the philosophy of TKD, I'll let you know what happens, and if I get the uniform. :)

--Sean

very typical martial arts school

but, not so bad


Karate Kid, eventhough cheesy, laid out martial arts very accurately. This sounds like a typical 'kobra kai' american style dojo. The Mr.Miyagi schools don't really exist, and so it's rare to find a master that will speak more than a few words about the art.

[someonestolemynick]

eye gouge + groin grabs > grappling


Even if you're experienced in grappling you need to avoid these kinds of strikes.

They're not allowed during sport/UFC type matches.

In a real street fight there's too many factors to calculate. You need a good combo of many arts to really get an edge. Some people figure this out on their own without much training, and that's why the 5 guys beat 15.

I would say the 5 guys training only helped their athleticism, which alone probably caused the win. But, it's more than that.., they were likely very smart street fighters and not just regular martial artists.
Did I miss something, or is there a video with a 5 vs. 15 match?

This is the second time I saw reference to it and was just wondering... Thanks.

[iNFiNiTe]

I'm thinking Kendo... can anyone recommend me where to start? :D

[alleycat8675309]

I'm thinking Kendo... can anyone recommend me where to start? :D

http://kendo-canada.com/ckf_dojoadr.htm

Anything near to where you live?

See if a local university has a club.

[Smeagol]

http://kendo-canada.com/ckf_dojoadr.htm

Anything near to where you live?

See if a local university has a club.


I know the University of Toronto has a club. I joined for half a semester and the club fee was $25 and $40 for the full year. The catch was you have to have access to the Athletic Centre to join the club, which means either you have to be a student or join the gym (approx $65/month - back then).

They expected beginners and gave good instruction. You had to buy your own kendo wooden stick (stick + carrying case = approx $50) but was not required to buy the uniform. There was a test at the end of the semester.

I had to quit because the kendo stance was messing up my karate stance. However, my arms got really toned. :)

[sean222]

very typical martial arts school

but, not so bad


Karate Kid, eventhough cheesy, laid out martial arts very accurately. This sounds like a typical 'kobra kai' american style dojo. The Mr.Miyagi schools don't really exist, and so it's rare to find a master that will speak more than a few words about the art.


Thanks masterhapposai :) I'm sad to hear the Mr. Miyagi school doesn't exist :( I thought the more expensive smaller schools would be like that, haha. But more expensive schools will probably teach you what you need to know and in a specific order. The 4 week trial im in is just sticking me in into any classes I choose during the week...basically I'm missing out on the 'basic' training/intro to TKD.

[Gordon]

I know the University of Toronto has a club. I joined for half a semester and the club fee was $25 and $40 for the full year. The catch was you have to have access to the Athletic Centre to join the club, which means either you have to be a student or join the gym (approx $65/month - back then).

They expected beginners and gave good instruction. You had to buy your own kendo wooden stick (stick + carrying case = approx $50) but was not required to buy the uniform. There was a test at the end of the semester.

I had to quit because the kendo stance was messing up my karate stance. However, my arms got really toned. :)

YKKF! BIAZTCH! KARATE ALL TEH WAY! www.budolife.com
:twisted:

[iNFiNiTe]

I know the University of Toronto has a club. I joined for half a semester and the club fee was $25 and $40 for the full year. The catch was you have to have access to the Athletic Centre to join the club, which means either you have to be a student or join the gym (approx $65/month - back then).

They expected beginners and gave good instruction. You had to buy your own kendo wooden stick (stick + carrying case = approx $50) but was not required to buy the uniform. There was a test at the end of the semester.


thanks guys, I think I'll check out u of t club... I do have access to the AC (student).. so it should be cheap enough ^^

[sean222]

It's been almost 2 months and I still haven't gotten the "free" uniform!

[bb]

what i always found wierd about TKD classes was that it was all taught in korean, but karate classes would be taught in english...

[masterhapposai]

Thanks masterhapposai :) I'm sad to hear the Mr. Miyagi school doesn't exist :( I thought the more expensive smaller schools would be like that, haha. But more expensive schools will probably teach you what you need to know and in a specific order. The 4 week trial im in is just sticking me in into any classes I choose during the week...basically I'm missing out on the 'basic' training/intro to TKD.

I'm sure they start out authentic, but $_$ destroys their intentions.