Fido Dog treated like crap

[Nicotine]

Has anybody noticed that ever since Rogers bought fido, the fido commercials have changed?

They used to be all about cute, smart and cool dogs doing their dog stuff.


But now, they always have that guy, who is the president of the/a company talking to the dog in a subtly (and not so subtly) patronizing and condescending way.


I think they are trying to sort of subliminally make Fido customers feel cheap and low class. At least it obvious that's how the guy is treating the dogs in the Fido commercials now. I think the guy is supposed to represent rogers.

[UrbanPoet]

me 2. Call Peta!

[Bordello]

Yep, Rogers ruined Fido. They hiked the fees and installed that annoying voice system.

[KevC]

GSM coverage. Regrettably, only from Rogers. :)

[whargoul]

Obviously.

[justlam_]

What plan better than fido unlimited incoming?

[Beradon]

Has anybody noticed that ever since Rogers bought fido, the fido commercials have changed?

They used to be all about cute, smart and cool dogs doing their dog stuff.


But now, they always have that guy, who is the president of the/a company talking to the dog in a subtly (and not so subtly) patronizing and condescending way. you have WAY too much time on your hands. :lol:

[purple_rabbit]

Yep, Rogers ruined Fido. They hiked the fees and installed that annoying voice system.

No, the Unlimited City-wide plan for $25 was not sustainable. It was kind of like when jetsgo had those $1 sales. They were not to make income or profit -generation but rather just revenue generation so that they could gather as much as a customer base as possible in order to have a high buyout price in the eyes of the buyer (i.e Rogers). FIDO knew from the beggining that it was a losing war. It wasn't because Rogers ruined it, they are making their subsidiary profitable again.

Now they are just keeping FIDO in order to block more entrants to the cell phonbe market. Hell of a strategy if you tell me.

[Lonely Soldier Boy]

Sorry, I call ********.

These plans are common in Japan. My girlfriend was shocked when she heard I had to use minutes on incoming calls. The only reason they seem "unsustainable" is because these companies milk you for all you have. Ever wonder why we were years behind the asians and europeans?

Anyway, I avoided Fido because of their coverage. I don't like Telus, but I can get a signal pretty much everywhere I go (except the train :P)

[Nicotine]

you have WAY too much time on your hands. :lol:


Dude all you have to do is watch the commercials.

[Nicotine]

No, the Unlimited City-wide plan for $25 was not sustainable. It was kind of like when jetsgo had those $1 sales. They were not to make income or profit -generation but rather just revenue generation so that they could gather as much as a customer base as possible in order to have a high buyout price in the eyes of the buyer (i.e Rogers). FIDO knew from the beggining that it was a losing war. It wasn't because Rogers ruined it, they are making their subsidiary profitable again.

Now they are just keeping FIDO in order to block more entrants to the cell phonbe market. Hell of a strategy if you tell me.


Yeah, How exactly do you know is was not sustainable other than simply because you say so.


In Japan by the way, they are up to 22 Mbit DSL for 90% of Internet users while we here in North america are still at 1-3Mbit DSL for the vast majority.

[purple_rabbit]

Yeah, How exactly do you know is was not sustainable other than simply because you say so.


In Japan by the way, they are up to 22 Mbit DSL for 90% of Internet users while we here in North america are still at 1-3Mbit DSL for the vast majority.

I can't say the source. However I can say this: The Canadian cell phone market is fundamentally different from European and Asian Cell phone markets. The reason why $25 plan could be sustainable there is because the investment/per user is less. This is because of the high population density in European and Asian cities. On ther otherhand, Canada on its own is larger than Europe in terms of country size and yet only a fraction of its population. Investment in cell phone towers and equipment IS EXTREMELY expensive.

[hp]

What plan better than fido unlimited incoming?

Girlfriend got the same Fido plan on the Rogers, so she get's much better coverage than me (city fido).

hp

[Lonely Soldier Boy]

No dice.

Canada's population is split mainly among its three cities, Montreal, Vancouver and Toronto. And honestly, no cell carrier has good reception in location north of the strip of population along US border; except in major places like Quebec city.

The population arguement only would be effective if each company actually blanketted the country with coverage. As anyone who has gone coast-to-coast on Via knows, that is just not the case. The only province to be completely covered, to my knowledge is Alberta and that is purely because of how profitable it is to provide cell phone coverage to oil workers, etc..

[Nicotine]

I can't say the source. However I can say this: The Canadian cell phone market is fundamentally different from European and Asian Cell phone markets. The reason why $25 plan could be sustainable there is because the investment/per user is less. This is because of the high population density in European and Asian cities. On ther otherhand, Canada on its own is larger than Europe in terms of country size and yet only a fraction of its population. Investment in cell phone towers and equipment IS EXTREMELY expensive.



Sounds like standard company bullcrap to me.

[Hurk]

Sounds like standard company bullcrap to me.

And you sound like the oblivious average Joe who thinks everything is company bullcrap.

[RW99]

Sounds like standard company bullcrap to me.

Purple is correct. The use of cellphones is quite different here than it is in Europe and Asia in addition to the population. The more people you can get on less towers = better pricing. IE, take a look at Springhill NS. Population is 4200 and there's a Rogers cell tower there. Considering Rogers Wireless penetration on a town that size compared to the cost of the tower = not making as much as the towers in Tokyo where there's a much higher penetration of wireless users and each cell tower's channels can be kept near full. But that's an extreme example :D Anyone that knows geography and the wireless industry knows this, regardless if it sounds like company bs :)

[aquariaguy]

I'm pretty sure Rogers could give us cheaper plans, they just don't want too. He's busy snatching up radio stations, tv stations, domes, sport teams...etc...

[Azxster]

Sorry, I call ********.

These plans are common in Japan. My girlfriend was shocked when she heard I had to use minutes on incoming calls. The only reason they seem "unsustainable" is because these companies milk you for all you have. Ever wonder why we were years behind the asians and europeans?

Anyway, I avoided Fido because of their coverage. I don't like Telus, but I can get a signal pretty much everywhere I go (except the train :P)

Think... how big is Japan compared to Canada?

[deity_me]

Well if the prices were better, I think the use of cell phones would increase thus making towers more profitable than their current status. Also I think they're lacking towers in the downtown area b/c I occasionally get Network Busy when I try to dial out in the evening.

[ephemera]

Why not use a telephone to make phone calls?

[justlam_]

Well if the prices were better, I think the use of cell phones would increase thus making towers more profitable than their current status. Also I think they're lacking towers in the downtown area b/c I occasionally get Network Busy when I try to dial out in the evening.

actually, the prices of some rogers and fido plans r not that bad but saf and 911 is stupid. i think saf is for government? the extra $7.50 and taxes changes the final price so much from what was advertised.

[purple_rabbit]

Sounds like standard company bullcrap to me.

Yeah, How exactly do you know is was not sustainable other than simply because you say so.

In Japan by the way, they are up to 22 Mbit DSL for 90% of Internet users while we here in North america are still at 1-3Mbit DSL for the vast majority.

If my arguments is such bullcrap, why don't you give some constructive thoughts instead of giving one-line average joe comments?

[Beradon]

actually, the prices of some rogers and fido plans r not that bad but saf and 911 is stupid. i think saf is for government? the extra $7.50 and taxes changes the final price so much from what was advertised.but telus also charges you the saf and 911 fees. Bell also hides these fees into their plans.

[D.NGUYEN]

So does fido use the Rogers towers too. So by buying fido plans, you get access to the rogers coverage?

[i6s1]

Why not use a telephone to make phone calls?

That's so 20th century.

[ChinpokoMon]

So does fido use the Rogers towers too. So by buying fido plans, you get access to the rogers coverage?


Rogers customers get to use both networks for free.

Fido customers get to use both networks for free until August 2nd. Afterwards, if you want to add Rogers coverage, you have to pay $5/month extra for the Expanded Network option (http://www.fido.ca/portal/en/packages/monthly.shtml#network).

[Nicotine]

And you sound like the oblivious average Joe who thinks everything is company bullcrap.


First of all, there have already been posted extremely good counter arguments to those proposed by the guy I was accusing of toeing company line.

Second of all, the US suffers from the same problems we do, and I doubt anybody would use those pathetic arguments when talking about those problems in the US.

[Nicotine]

If my arguments is such bullcrap, why don't you give some constructive thoughts instead of giving one-line average joe comments?


There have been plenty of counter arguments. I am not the only person disagreeing with you.

Why are you going after the person you think is the weakest link instead of spending your time answering the other more detailed criticisms? Hmmm?

[purple_rabbit]

There have been plenty of counter arguments. I am not the only person disagreeing with you.

Why are you going after the person you think is the weakest link instead of spending your time answering the other more detailed criticisms? Hmmm?

I did read the other detailed criticisms and offered my second opinion on them. Look, I'm not backing the cell phone companies and I'm actually for competitive pricing and the consumer etc. But fact is, we gotta look at the market and the environment these companies are in. Read my arguments again, don't you think they make sense?

[Bordello]

I did read the other detailed criticisms and offered my second opinion on them. Look, I'm not backing the cell phone companies and I'm actually for competitive pricing and the consumer etc. But fact is, we gotta look at the market and the environment these companies are in. Read my arguments again, don't you think they make sense?

I find it difficult to sympathize with Rogers and Bell for some reason. Call me heartless...

[purple_rabbit]

I find it difficult to sympathize with Rogers and Bell for some reason. Call me heartless...

No I agree with you lol I was just explaining to the guy why Fido's $25 was not sustainable

[YLSF]

Umm.. I am pretty sure in Japan that if a landline calls a cell phone the landline PAYS a premium to call the cell phone. The same in europe. So, to say that incoming calls are free is sort of not true since the landline (or caller) is paying the fees. I think Bell did that for a while here to. You could get a phone number that routed to your phone where whoever called it paid the fees.