Should rapists be castrated?

[d_jedi]

Wondering what opinions are on this. If someone is a rapist, should we make it so they can never do it again?

[guest10586]

:arrowu: :eek:

[bionicbadger]

Its easier to kill them. There wasn't an option in the poll for that though.

[Montague]

Problem is what if the person turns out to be innocent? :?:

[UrbanPoet]

we dont even have the death penalty...
we dont even have life sentences!!!

[danfromwaterloo]

If rapists should be castrated then theives should have their hands cut off, and liars should have their tongues cut out.

If you want to resort to cruel and unusual punishment, then you might as well go all the way.

[pandaharo]

If rapists should be castrated then theives should have their hands cut off, and liars should have their tongues cut out.

If you want to resort to cruel and unusual punishment, then you might as well go all the way.

Exactly what we need in Canada :lol:

[bionicbadger]

If rapists should be castrated then theives should have their hands cut off, and liars should have their tongues cut out.

If you want to resort to cruel and unusual punishment, then you might as well go all the way.

I'm all for it.
It might be argued that its cruel, but it isn't unusual punishment.

DNA testing is pretty convincing for rape cases where the suspect and victim don't know each other.

[Bortman]

Stealing and lieing doesn't take away the will of a person like rape does, so your cruel and unusual punishment thing has no place here.

[15-20_God]

Stealing and lieing doesn't take away the will of a person like rape does, so your cruel and unusual punishment thing has no place here.

tell that to the seniors that had their life savings wiped out by smooth talking telemarketers.

[15-20_God]

DNA testing is pretty convincing for rape cases where the suspect and victim don't know each other.

yes, thats a great idea for one night stands. pick up a chick at a bar, she goes home with you, you stick it in her twat, and you get castrated because she regrets sleeping with you and was too drunk to remember she grabbed your nuts first.

[d_jedi]

yes, thats a great idea for one night stands. pick up a chick at a bar, she goes home with you, you stick it in her twat, and you get castrated because she regrets sleeping with you and was too drunk to remember she grabbed your nuts first.
that isn't rape..

[15-20_God]

that isn't rape..

not if its consensual.

[GreenWeenie]

Wondering what opinions are on this. If someone is a rapist, should we make it so they can never do it again?Chemically or physically castrated?

[d_jedi]

Chemically or physically castrated?
People can be castrated chemically now?
(No, I don't want the gory details..)

[GreenWeenie]

People can be castrated chemically now?
(No, I don't want the gory details..)No gore to it.... using drugs (commonly Depo-Provera, a birth control drug) to achieve the same physiological results without the physical removal of the "boys".

[Audiogenic]

Two wrongs never make a right...even if revenge if sweet.

[asim99]

Wondering what opinions are on this. If someone is a rapist, should we make it so they can never do it again?

your personal perference for inhumane punishments make you an ideal saudi citizenship applicant

[Absolute]

People can be castrated chemically now?
(No, I don't want the gory details..)

Yes, I believe that one of the Western provinces did this to mentally challenged people years ago. Or it might have just been normal castration...

[Daemar]

No gore to it.... using drugs (commonly Depo-Provera, a birth control drug) to achieve the same physiological results without the physical removal of the "boys".

Doesn't that just make them impotent. They may still have the ability to 'rape'.

I'm against this because, like capital punishment, there is no way to undo this feat (well, small % chance if they keep the remnants cryogenically frozen). Call me optimistic, but I still believe some criminals can be rehabilitated.

[flito ray]

Problem is what if the person turns out to be innocent? :?:

innocent or not they shouldn't have been the suspect to start off with.

I say guilty unless proven innocent. That's what surgery is for.

[Ojam]

innocent or not they shouldn't have been the suspect to start off with.

I say guilty unless proven innocent. That's what surgery is for.

wtf? :arrowu:

[NG]

yes, thats a great idea for one night stands. pick up a chick at a bar, she goes home with you, you stick it in her twat, and you get castrated because she regrets sleeping with you and was too drunk to remember she grabbed your nuts first.

Good point. There is always the case of being judged guilty dispite being innocent.

I was debating voting yes since the massive violence against women in our society needs to be addressed. However....there's always "what if"

[asim99]

innocent or not they shouldn't have been the suspect to start off with.

I say guilty unless proven innocent. That's what surgery is for.

now i feel bad for defending you when you went on a rampage in dominion

[NG]

now i feel bad for defending you when you went on a rampage in dominion

LMAO. Gotta link?

That sounds almost as funny as Pete Browne's lost pants thread.

[asim99]

LMAO. Gotta link?

That sounds almost as funny as Pete Browne's lost pants thread.

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=165674 :|

[GreenWeenie]

Doesn't that just make them impotent. They may still have the ability to 'rape'.

I'm against this because, like capital punishment, there is no way to undo this feat (well, small % chance if they keep the remnants cryogenically frozen). Call me optimistic, but I still believe some criminals can be rehabilitated.If you can't get it up ... tis tough to rape. You have to take the drug regularly (weekly?) but it can be offset by direct injections of testosterone if I recall correctly.

Google "chemical castration" and you'll find lots of interesting info, including this (http://www.law.fsu.edu/journals/lawreview/frames/252/spalfram.html) Florida State Prof's background and opinion titled "FLORIDA'S 1997 CHEMICAL CASTRATION LAW: A RETURN TO THE DARK AGES"

[Twism]

not sure if its still like this in the stricter middle east states but what I heard is that if you steal you would get your hands cut off and if you killed someone you would get your head cut off. Also they can be abusive to people in their jails. As far as U.A.E. I felt really safe and have heard its really safe for even girls to walk around at night which I did see doing late night shopping.

People arent scared of the law here as its just not strict enough. Longer sentences would be good.

[NG]

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=165674 :|

:lol: OK - that's the thread. Yea I was defending him too but didn't realize it got so heated it had to be locked. Man I still find what he did to be classic!

I doubt Dominion/A&P has any vegan food (even Superstore just has enough for me to survive) but I should try that sometime and just drop off the food at the foodbank on the way back.

I thought you ment he was literally freaking out in the supermarket. Now that's a story I'd like to read :D

[runamuck]

that isn't rape..

i think i saw that episode of LA Law once...poor guy was cleared after 5 years in the slammer....

her words+DNA evidence..... against his denials

[purple_rabbit]

The problem with castrating is that how can you ABSOLUTELY be 100% sure that she was raped. Problem with rapists is that it is a she said/ he said kinda thing. The only way courts can convict a rapist is on the basis of the victim's credibility. Although there is DNA, it could well have been consensual. And while you might give the victim the benefit of the doubt, if there is even one case where the courts were wrong and castrated someone who was innocent, that is enough to make us think whether the system is flawed. These arguments apply to death penalty as well.

[numb555]

the best scenario would be 2 strikes and ur out! Just go after the repeat offenders!

1 strikes seems to be extreme as you may catch some innocent person...

[henryh]

What about a woman who rapes a man? Or a stat rape; 20 year old guy sleeps with a 17 year old girl, let's castrate him, eh?

[insanity]

Chop It Off! Chop It Off! Chop It Off!

[Iron Chef Ajax]

We should have faith in our judicial system.

[neilson]

Chemical Castration, and for females like Karla.

Yeah I wonder what the bounty hunters in Quebec are doing come next month?

[flito ray]

now i feel bad for defending you when you went on a rampage in dominion

I was being sarcastic if you couldn't tell. I thought you and I were buds asim99? where did things go wrong?

[bug]

Hmm... Hang them by their willies wasn't an option >:(

[vancouverforsale]

If rapists should be castrated then theives should have their hands cut off, and liars should have their tongues cut out.

If you want to resort to cruel and unusual punishment, then you might as well go all the way.

People who support the slaughtering of other animals for their own selfish interests should have their tongues cut out. If we're going to start talking about equality, let's talk about equality for all. Especially when they murder the weakest of animal members: Pigs, Chickens and Cows.

[vancouverforsale]

The problem with castrating is that how can you ABSOLUTELY be 100% sure that she was raped. Problem with rapists is that it is a she said/ he said kinda thing. The only way courts can convict a rapist is on the basis of the victim's credibility. Although there is DNA, it could well have been consensual. And while you might give the victim the benefit of the doubt, if there is even one case where the courts were wrong and castrated someone who was innocent, that is enough to make us think whether the system is flawed. These arguments apply to death penalty as well.

You are right, the death penalty is very racist because we live in a racist society (a society that wants all members to think like a white man and act like one too, regardless of their culture, or skin).

[asim99]

I was being sarcastic if you couldn't tell. I thought you and I were buds asim99? where did things go wrong?

oh okay...i guess my sarcasm-o-meter needs repair

[yatko]

OP is on the roll with these non sense redneck like polls.

[mrmoe]

i say take something away from them that is important.
so YES

use vice grips and a file....

[ah802]

Wondering what opinions are on this. If someone is a rapist, should we make it so they can never do it again?It's been shown that some rapists do it for a mental thing... there are cases were chemical castration was used and the sudject re-offended. This is not a reliable method of anything other than birth control.

Better to support the death penalty, it's a sure end for someone.

[v00d00]

Nice poll.. you gave 1 choice for YES and 2 choices for NO.. hence splitting all the NO votes.. so it would appear more people are saying YES.

Tsk tsk tsk.

[purple_rabbit]

Nice poll.. you gave 1 choice for YES and 2 choices for NO.. hence splitting all the NO votes.. so it would appear more people are saying YES.

Tsk tsk tsk.

LOL thats why educated people like you and me will count the total No votes together in our little agitated heads :cheesygri Edit: So right now the "NO" vote is leading by 4 percentage points ( A lil clarification for the not-so-intelectually stimulated :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: )

I guess the reason why he did it was to kinda split the reasoning into the "no" vote, although ultimately, regardless of justification a "no" is a NO.

[astrogirl]

I voted yes.

Absolutely, castration should be an option during sentencing. Like physical castration, I mean.

But it should only be an option, and used for the worst types of offenders. Like serial rapists and child rapists. And it should only be used when guilt is undeniable- solid DNA, or when a perv videotapes it, or when they confess, examples like that. That would be awesome.

Obviously it shouldn't be used when a 20 year old guy sleeps with his 17 year old girlfriend and the parents press charges, for example.

Just in the really extreme and disgusting cases.

[GreenWeenie]

Obviously it shouldn't be used when a 20 year old guy sleeps with his 17 year old girlfriend and the parents press charges, for example.Right ... in that case I'm gonna rip the f**ker's "boys" off myself :twisted:

[d_jedi]

I voted yes.

Absolutely, castration should be an option during sentencing. Like physical castration, I mean.

But it should only be an option, and used for the worst types of offenders. Like serial rapists and child rapists. And it should only be used when guilt is undeniable- solid DNA, or when a perv videotapes it, or when they confess, examples like that. That would be awesome.

Obviously it shouldn't be used when a 20 year old guy sleeps with his 17 year old girlfriend and the parents press charges, for example.

Just in the really extreme and disgusting cases.
That's exactly how I envisioned it working.
Like for Homolka and Bernardo, for example..

[d_jedi]

Obviously it shouldn't be used when a 20 year old guy sleeps with his 17 year old girlfriend and the parents press charges, for example.
BTW: Isn't it all legal if both (consenting) partners are over 14 years old (and, if one is under 18, the other is not in "a position of authority" for them)?

AFAIK, that's how the law works..

[v00d00]

LOL thats why educated people like you and me will count the total No votes together in our little agitated heads :cheesygri Edit: So right now the "NO" vote is leading by 4 percentage points ( A lil clarification for the not-so-intelectually stimulated :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: )

I guess the reason why he did it was to kinda split the reasoning into the "no" vote, although ultimately, regardless of justification a "no" is a NO.
I can count.. but it gives the appearance that YES is in the lead..

In all fairness, he should have had:

Yes - its barbaric
Yes - other reason
No - its barbaric
No - other reason
I dont care - its barbaric
I dont care - other reason

[d_jedi]

Yes - its barbaric
Hmm.. I wonder who would vote for that..

[purple_rabbit]

But it should only be an option, and used for the worst types of offenders. Like serial rapists and child rapists. And it should only be used when guilt is undeniable- solid DNA, or when a perv videotapes it, or when they confess, examples like that. That would be awesome.



Alright, but that would be wishful thinkin aint it? Chances of that happening is very slim

[15-20_God]

how about for ppl that talk out of their arse, they should have their butt plugged?

[NG]

http://www.gothamist.com/images/2004_12_scottbaio.jpg

Forget rapists. Scott Baio must be castrated to stop him from breeding!

[v00d00]

how about for ppl that talk out of their arse, they should have their butt plugged?
LoL

No.. not just plugged, surgically sewn!

[SwiZz]

http://www.gothamist.com/images/2004_12_scottbaio.jpg

Forget rapists. Scott Baio must be castrated to stop him from breeding!

ahahah......what made you think of Scott Baio all of a sudden???? :confused:

[v00d00]

all of a sudden???? :confused:
Why would you assume all of a sudden? :confused:

[NG]

ahahah......what made you think of Scott Baio all of a sudden???? :confused:

It has always been part of my political agenda to have Scott Baio castrated. He's a greater threat to freedom and a civil society that George Bush, Stephen Harper and Urkle combined!

[ForthEarlingas]

I vote No, other reason. Castrated is too cruel, they should be beheaded.

which head are you referring to :confused:

[gordholio]

I think that SERIAL rapists should be castrated for sure. I'm not saying allow a person one rape and then if they do it again then castrate them.
What I'm saying is castrate someone like Paul Bernardo, who was found to be the Scarborough rapist. As for someone who is caught after only one rape, I would lean toward castration if it is proven by their DNA conclusively.

[Ferman]

I think that SERIAL rapists should be castrated for sure. I'm not saying allow a person one rape and then if they do it again then castrate them.
What I'm saying is castrate someone like Paul Bernardo, who was found to be the Scarborough rapist. As for someone who is caught after only one rape, I would lean toward castration if it is proven by their DNA conclusively.

Oh.. but what if they were innocent, in all cases.. or were temporarily insane during all of them..

We need to make sure they aren't punished incase they were set up in all those rapes.

This is the Canadian way.

[Shaner]

What is castration going to do? Rape has little to do with sex, it's more about the power.

A lot of rapists never even have intercourse with their victim, instead, they use objects or their hands. What good will that do?

As for castrating them? I vote no!

It's been proven that the death penalty in the states is NOT an effective deterrant, so obviously castration wouldn't be either.

[BoxsterS]

Does the wrongfully accused castrated rapist, that was later found to be not guilty, get to give the person that accused him or her a Columbian Neck Tie?

[Ferman]

Does the wrongfully accused castrated rapist, that was later found to be not guilty, get to give the person that accused him or her a Columbian Neck Tie?

DNA evidence would eliminate these problems.

Finding DNA matched semen on the victims undergarments is pretty much smoking gun enough for me to use the scalpel..

[frogger]

DNA evidence would eliminate these problems.

Finding DNA matched semen on the victims undergarments is pretty much smoking gun enough for me to use the scalpel..
All that proves is there may have been intercourse.

[BoxsterS]

DNA evidence would eliminate these problems.

Finding DNA matched semen on the victims undergarments is pretty much smoking gun enough for me to use the scalpel..

Ever hear of condoms?