** ALERT ** Do Not Deal with DealMakerz! [Archive]

JayPatel

Jun 10th, 2005, 12:38 AM

Until a current trade dispute has been resolved you are advised not to deal with DealMakerz for the time being. He has been banned from posting in threads but has access to PM's. Apparently DealMakers has bought a laptop off another user and paid via Fraudulent EMT.

He's had a few active threads lately so hopefully no one else has been involved in a trade.

Amourek

Jun 10th, 2005, 12:50 AM

Fraudulent EMT? Could you explain that?

Jeff146

Jun 10th, 2005, 12:59 AM

How can you do a fraudent EMT? Now even EMT can be frauded? That's crazy

JayPatel

Jun 10th, 2005, 01:40 AM

How can you do a fraudent EMT? Now even EMT can be frauded? That's crazy

hack into someones account. We now have reports that this is UbuyWeSell and BuyMe2003.

Beware of him. The user claims he is from Boston. insists on EMT and then sends an associate to pick up the merchandise. Another user has come forward with similar circumstances.

JayPatel

Jun 10th, 2005, 01:42 AM

Fraudulent EMT? Could you explain that?

Hack into someones account and pay via EMT. This happens quite a bit.

More info has surfaced. it appears this is the same individual as UBuyWeSell and BuyMe2003

Beware of him. The user claims he is from Boston. insists on EMT and then sends an associate to pick up the merchandise. Another user has come forward with similar circumstances.

kloan

Jun 10th, 2005, 02:19 AM

hmm.. sounds like someone's recording people's moves in an internet cafe or somethin.. don't people know not to do their banking on public computers??

7jai

Jun 10th, 2005, 02:25 AM

I remember "U BUY WE SELL" that kid was a strange one when he sold stuff.

Szeto

Jun 10th, 2005, 12:12 PM

nasty trolls :)

JAC

Jun 10th, 2005, 12:23 PM

This asshat should have been banned back in March for selling bootleg DVDs.
http://forums.redflagdeals.com/showthread.php?p=1391800

On a side note, I would like to renew my request for the publication of contact info for CONFIRMED trolls.

Somebody has an IP address, name, mailing address, phone number, and email for all these clowns.

Why is RFD not protecting it's members by posting this info?

krips

Jun 10th, 2005, 07:32 PM

RFD might be held responsible if some crazy mofo got pissed off over a bad deal and used the information listed to track him down and kill him. :|

But who cares? :razz:

wanted

Jun 10th, 2005, 07:36 PM

wanted

Jun 10th, 2005, 07:39 PM

http://forums.redflagdeals.com/showthread.php?t=156891&highlight=audiovox+8910

Meant April in my previous post, my mistake.

Max_Dealing

Jun 10th, 2005, 08:10 PM

Is there away to tell a good EMT from a Fraudulent? What happens to the person involved?

solo.

Jun 11th, 2005, 12:40 AM

Can we know who made the accusation because DealMakerz says he's getting framed.

JayPatel

Jun 11th, 2005, 12:46 AM

Can we know who made the accusation because DealMakerz says he's getting framed.

He can contact me directly if he would like to state his say on this matter. he still has access to his PM's

solo.

Jun 11th, 2005, 01:00 AM

He says he can't PM you, the pm function has been disabled.
Can you contact him through email?

nsd

Jun 11th, 2005, 02:27 AM

Hey guys.
I've dealt with this guy and he seems totally legit. Nice guy, drove up to my meeting point, sold me his almost unused xbox + a couple of games + a 120 GB for a DIRT CHEAP price. I talked to him live, he has a nice ride and everything. I even have his license plate number (sorry man, took it just in case - the deal he gave me was INSANE and I was just making sure I wasn't getting scammed).
Of course I will not disclose it to anyone unless some real evidence comes into play so don't even bother asking.
I must repeat myself he seemed real nice. He just msged me over msn

Without The Love Of My Life...There Is No Love And No Life says:
i been framed
Without The Love Of My Life...There Is No Love And No Life says:
i never bought no laptop
Without The Love Of My Life...There Is No Love And No Life says:
i dont understand what happened
Without The Love Of My Life...There Is No Love And No Life says:
im guessing someone hijacked my rfd acc...i was lookin for a laptop but i guess someone was reading my pms and tried to get it with my id
Hope you can sort this out.

solo.

Jun 11th, 2005, 02:44 AM

JayPatel

Jun 11th, 2005, 02:50 AM

should be fixed...dealmakerz, respond to my pm asap

nsd

Jun 11th, 2005, 02:56 AM

Yes that was over msn. What email addy does he have on yours ?

solo.

Jun 11th, 2005, 02:59 AM

i have his gmail one.

Nevermind, its updated to the same thing as above.

nsd

Jun 11th, 2005, 03:01 AM

I have his msn.com one.

Volvotech

Jun 11th, 2005, 12:07 PM

He screwed me back in December with the Seinfeld DVD set using name UbuyWeSell. Gave me some lame excuse about undeliverable. When I asked for a tracking number, that's when he stopped replying. Never did refund my money, and then disappeared from this site, only to return under a different name a few months later. I'm sure others got screwed as well.

If he did nothing wrong, why disappear and then change names?

He's a scammer and stay away from him.

If he refunds my money, I'll retract my statement

Szeto

Jun 11th, 2005, 03:23 PM

ask the people at bank and tell them about the RFD trolls

fourtwenty

Jun 14th, 2005, 09:12 AM

So what happens to the person who's bank account was used, do they get their money back and the seller is SOL?

Dab09

Jun 15th, 2005, 12:35 AM

I THINK HE HAS JUST STARTED AGAIN

I believe he is using lovemydealzz, he mubmped a thread by dealmakerz and this is th ePM he sent me.
AHHH

lovemydealzz
Newbie

Join Date: Mar 29th, 2005
Posts: 2

Default Re: laptop
hey whats up.
Deal. But the thing is i am in Ottawa and my brother is in Downtown toronto and is willing to meet up with u.
let me know if that is ok with u and if u can meet tommorow Wednesday.
P.s. U accept EMT(thru Online banking)
thnx

JayPatel

Jun 15th, 2005, 01:57 AM

thanks...was about to post that..the IP originates from Seneca college....same place DealMakerz has been posting from on a few occasions.

I THINK HE HAS JUST STARTED AGAIN

I believe he is using lovemydealzz, he mubmped a thread by dealmakerz and this is th ePM he sent me.
AHHH

lovemydealzz
Newbie

Join Date: Mar 29th, 2005
Posts: 2

Default Re: laptop
hey whats up.
Deal. But the thing is i am in Ottawa and my brother is in Downtown toronto and is willing to meet up with u.
let me know if that is ok with u and if u can meet tommorow Wednesday.
P.s. U accept EMT(thru Online banking)
thnx

Mr. D

Jun 15th, 2005, 05:53 AM

I can't believe people like this bad person can get away just like that. There must be something that can be done. They need to pay for their actions. Report the IP to the police and gather all the messages and documents from this guy... >:(

@hmad

Jun 15th, 2005, 07:28 AM

Meet up with him. If the description matches that of Ajay Patel... be creative!

quarterpounder

Jun 15th, 2005, 11:25 AM

I've been victimized by the fraud emt :)
account holder gets their funds back..I was fortunate and they didn not find foul play against me..but they could have rescinded the funds sent to me.. it was for a laptop..and it was an rfd user.. I was not smart, and did not verify well enough (I had never had a bad experience with emt prior)

djayboi

Jun 16th, 2005, 02:18 AM

I dealt w/ dealmakerz just this week and he is very legit. was very nice and even drove up to where i was. sold me some gcs and verified to be legit.
i would deal w/ him again. Thanks!

JAC

Jun 16th, 2005, 08:53 AM

I dealt w/ dealmakerz just this week and he is very legit. was very nice and even drove up to where i was. sold me some gcs and verified to be legit.
i would deal w/ him again. Thanks!
Could we have an IP check here, please?

kornstar369

Jun 16th, 2005, 07:45 PM

another one...holy cr@p....

ne0

Jun 18th, 2005, 03:38 AM

What does he look like? Nationality?

I think it would help if someone discribed what he looks like, so that we all know if we are talking about the same person.

ne0

Jun 18th, 2005, 03:51 AM

lovemydealzz
Newbie

Join Date: Mar 29th, 2005
Posts: 2

Default Re: laptop
hey whats up.
Deal. But the thing is i am in Ottawa and my brother is in Downtown toronto and is willing to meet up with u.
let me know if that is ok with u and if u can meet tommorow Wednesday.
P.s. U accept EMT(thru Online banking)
thnx

This is the same guy FOR SURE!!!

He ripped me off and said the same thing, except he was in Boston at the time or so he claims.

And sure enough his good friend (or brother in this case) from Toronto was there to pick it up for him.

I hope this guy gets what he deserves

ne0

Jun 18th, 2005, 03:59 AM

Hey guys.
I've dealt with this guy and he seems totally legit. Nice guy, drove up to my meeting point, sold me his almost unused xbox + a couple of games + a 120 GB for a DIRT CHEAP price. I talked to him live, he has a nice ride and everything. I even have his license plate number (sorry man, took it just in case - the deal he gave me was INSANE and I was just making sure I wasn't getting scammed).
Of course I will not disclose it to anyone unless some real evidence comes into play so don't even bother asking.
I must repeat myself he seemed real nice. He just msged me over msn

Maybe you should check out this link:
http://forums.redflagdeals.com/showthread.php?t=168905

I am just one of the few people that he has already ripped off.

What kind of ride did he have, was it a nissan with a body kit, because that was what he told me when we meet.

This individual may seem like a really nice guy in person, but don't be fooled. I even sat down and talked for this guy for awhile, then 2 weeks after receiving the Email Money Transfer (EMT), I get a call from the fraud department from TD, asking me about the EMT transfer.

moose3833

Jun 18th, 2005, 01:56 PM

I'd like to add another note:

He was selling a Virgin Mobile Phone (Audiovox 8910) a while ago in March...I sent many PM's and I think other people have too. He's been on ever since, and never replied or replied to his thread.
I'll dig up the link.

Hey I actually bought that phone off him but not before he didn't show the first 2 times.Usaully I would give up but the price was to good to pass on.He said he was there the first time then had tire problems the second.

magicgsm

Jul 2nd, 2005, 09:46 PM

It happend with me too, got a phone call,guy ask me if i accept EMT,i got paid, delivery guy got a package and... i got phone call from bank and from the person whom bank account was belong to, he was asking money back from me. I told them all story.. they understood. My problem - my bank account got frozen during investigation (took a month to get it back,no deposits,no payments).Finaly i won and got my money and account back.
Someone knows how to ckack/hack bank accounts of people,it is not hard to do,there a lot of people doing banking in internet caffee,or other public places.Special programs help you to save all typed information to .TXT file, someone getting it and... enjoing. WATCH OUT!!!

JayPatel

Jul 9th, 2005, 12:15 PM

He's back.

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=177205

IvanAndreevich

Jul 23rd, 2005, 02:28 AM

Wow the guy who has his license plate should give it to the police ;)

ne0

Jul 25th, 2005, 04:09 PM

I msg the guy about giving me his licence plate number and he said that he lost the guys licence plate number because he reformated his phone or something like that.

vtnam007

Aug 6th, 2005, 11:49 PM

Hey RFD ppl,

I have not been on RFD for a while and noticed you guys are talking about this kid. To add my 2 cents, I have met this guy about twice. First time to deal a i730 at yorkdale. He was going to sell it to me for $100 but I backed out because of the condition when I saw it. Apparently, he said he just quit the telus/mike store in that mall and wanted to sell some unused phones. Anyways, very weird but friendly guy. First time I met him, he jumped into my car like he was my best buddy. I felt alittle unconfortable with that. I just think he has a long string of bad luck. He wanted to make some quick deals to pay for his impounded car. He is always forgetting and losing stuff when I talk to him on the phone. For example, I met up with him a second time because he dropped in inno 55 in my car the first time we met. He drives a black (or some other dark color, can't remember) early 90s nissan altima. I don't know if this guy is getting framed because knowing him, I think he might have got his computer stole. I have his name and cell # but don't want to give it out until I am convinced he really is a scammer. He is about 5' 6" or 8", light black skinned with curly hair. If this is the guy you guys dealt with, let me know.

NODES

Aug 7th, 2005, 02:35 AM

give that info to the Mods, they know what to do with it

Matthew.M

Sep 9th, 2005, 04:32 PM

if this guy is always dealing on other accounts.. once u realize it, say ok ill buy ur junk lets meet up. Then u call the police/beat him up. I'll help for the hell of it

dont tell me my idea isnt good.

wanted

Sep 9th, 2005, 04:39 PM

Matthew.M

Sep 10th, 2005, 07:16 PM

fine dont beat him up

auto-m8

Sep 18th, 2005, 09:35 AM

Is this character dealmakerz the same as mrmoto ? and who else as well ?

He tried to arrange a 2K deal on Staples GC's but when I asked the he meet
at a store to verify, POOF, he justed vanished, no more PM's....said something about going to Boston as well !

He claims that he never received my PM's. I felt something fishy about his behaviour and responses and ended the deal as well.

greigf

Oct 10th, 2005, 08:44 PM

thx for the info.. this guy should be dealt with asap, so that others could advoid his cr@p.

felix

Jan 4th, 2006, 02:11 PM

Maybe you should check out this link:
http://forums.redflagdeals.com/showthread.php?t=168905

I am just one of the few people that he has already ripped off.

What kind of ride did he have, was it a nissan with a body kit, because that was what he told me when we meet.

This individual may seem like a really nice guy in person, but don't be fooled. I even sat down and talked for this guy for awhile, then 2 weeks after receiving the Email Money Transfer (EMT), I get a call from the fraud department from TD, asking me about the EMT transfer.
Link is dead. Is there an updated one?

BestSeller

Jan 24th, 2006, 02:26 AM

RFD might be held responsible if some crazy mofo got pissed off over a bad deal and used the information listed to track him down and kill him. :|

But who cares? :razz:

LOL :D

emz

Feb 12th, 2006, 12:50 PM

Out of curiosity, did this fraudulent encounter ever get settled? Is there an update to the situation?

bubble.tea

Feb 21st, 2006, 05:01 PM

swimteam1010

Apr 27th, 2006, 02:21 PM

I will agree with the previous post aswell :!:

LeeBoA

Jun 10th, 2006, 01:05 AM

hack into someones account. We now have reports that this is UbuyWeSell and BuyMe2003.

Beware of him. The user claims he is from Boston. insists on EMT and then sends an associate to pick up the merchandise. Another user has come forward with similar circumstances.
i think ive encountered this guy months ago for a d600... Told me he was in boston blah blah and through msn convos it sounds liek total bs.

ace321

Aug 11th, 2006, 07:49 PM

plz beware

Coke355mL

Aug 17th, 2006, 12:55 PM

I have made a few observations about this person, DealMakerz.

1. Those who spoke good of DealMakerz only dealt with him in the situation where DealMakerz was a seller.

2. When DealMakerz was a buyer, he would allegedly send fraudulent EMT claiming he is located out of town and that he has a friend or relative in the city that can pick it up for him.

Those who buy/sell on RFD should be wise in who they are dealing with. If someone wishes to send you payment remotely, then you do the same back - mail the merchandise to him only. That way, he must provide his mailing address to you.

When dealing, either agree to a meetup and accept cash, or mail directly to a person. I mean c'mon, accept EMT and give your merchandise away to a pickup person means you are sending away your item with no trace of where it is going to. That means you will never really know any information on the buyer. You need to obtain enough information about a buyer before you do business with them. You need to verify who you are dealing with.

lbradshaw

Oct 20th, 2006, 05:44 PM

A little common sense goes a long way. I am all for a good deal, but these scammers present themselves with deals that realistically are too good to be true. COMMON SENSE means not getting sucked into a deal that seems too good. Meeting and trading is fine providing your GUT feeling is that the deal is right, fair and benefits both sides. If you smell a fish, doesn't it make sense to just walk away? Common sense......something you just can buy or trade for. Scammers profit off those who have never learned common sense.

Absolute

Oct 20th, 2006, 05:52 PM

Quick question - why bump this thread? :)

FlintBlade

Nov 13th, 2006, 02:31 PM

Quick question - why bump this thread? :)

ugh.... uummmm... ugh because you can?:confused:

pcpro

Nov 28th, 2006, 10:28 PM

ugh.... uummmm... ugh because you can?:confused:

wait wuznt there a thread about u being a bad trader?..lol..kinda ironic i guess....:D

taichiubg

Jan 16th, 2007, 04:51 PM

Somebody has an IP address, name, mailing address, phone number, and email for all these clowns.

Why is RFD not protecting it's members by posting this info?[/SIZE][/COLOR]
Take it easy, it's not RFD's fault. Anyone can spoof their IP and commit fraud, having an IP will not help if it's spoofed. Also, if it's from an internet cafe, what r u going to do, send a SWAT team in bright red RFD uniforms to apprehend the fugitive and money transfer him right to the Mailer Daemon?