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basscleff
Jun 3rd, 2005, 02:45 PM
I put up a web blog quickly to hekp others recognize fraud artists. We all have items for sale on the net, either or ebay, here or in local classifieds.
I was getting several emails a day offering the usual

pay by bidpay/western union money order
ship to nigeria
use their own fedex account....
send them back the extra funds that they sent to you (they usually send 2x what you ask for your item, and they want the rest back)
or they will have someone pivk up the item for sale, and the extra cash they gave you....

anyways....I'm sure you all have experienced this in one form or another....

if the RFD admins will allow this, here is the link to the blog:
Fraud Alerts (http://fraudalerts.blogspot.com/)

15-20_God
Jun 3rd, 2005, 02:50 PM
really? i've never heard of such a scheme.

basscleff
Aug 23rd, 2005, 11:42 AM
:arrowu:

FearSonic
Aug 23rd, 2005, 11:49 AM
How is it them scamming you if they send 2x the amount?

pandaharo
Aug 23rd, 2005, 11:51 AM
maybe he's using your auction to launder UN aid money, be careful. :|

Martinga
Aug 23rd, 2005, 12:08 PM
Very true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I got 5 people who wanted me to ship items to Nigeria!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

here are some links from where I got people ask me to ship it to nigeria:
www.intoko.ca
www.cdncc.com

also in the craiglist place........ theirs a very interesting post if you find it about a guy who says that he got a lot of offers of nigerian people.........

BE VERY CAREFUL WITH PEOPLE WHO ASK YOU TO SHIP THEIR ITEMS TO NIGERIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

cOmAtOaSt
Aug 23rd, 2005, 12:25 PM
How is it them scamming you if they send 2x the amount?
They send you fake money orders or cheques that take awhile to clear. In the meantime, they bother you non-stop to send them excess money immediately and/or the item you were selling. Then it's discovered the money orders are fake and the bank takes the money back out of your account.

Martinga
Aug 23rd, 2005, 12:25 PM
Heres the article I found on craiglist:
Craig & others...

I often post here and I really wonder if these posts get directly sent to Nigeria or something. Look at this one.

-------------------------------------
Hello seller
I saw your item much evitable and We intend paying MONEY GRAM EXPRESS PAYMENT We would like to ask if you would be able to ship this item after payments must have been confirmed and approved by MONEY GRAM EXPRESS PAYMENT .this is due to the fact that its demand is quite high in my stores and hence there is need to reach you if you would be able to sell this to us.let us quickly say that we shall be handling shipping cost with courier serive Discount FEDEX account # so you will not include shipping fees.pls let me know if you can do this by sending your name, address and telephone numberto make payment to so that we can proceed with payment as soon as you get back to me.we await your reply soonest
---------------------------------

They all have the same stupid grammer, they all insist on Money orders and ALL of them want ALL OF MY PERSONAL INFO. I use newsgroups all the time but I never get bombarded by West African scammers as I do here EXCLUSIVELY.

SO I'm wondering how is this actually happening?!?!?! Do people in Nigeria get sold template letters to pull frauds? Because that many people cannot all sound the same and have the same ****ed up emails all the time. Also, when they are sold the scam template kits, do they get a list of which sites to hit? Because on newsnet you might get other spam to enlarge you penis, buy fake rolexes and diet pills but never what I see and get here all the time.

Just curious....




Now here's some of the e-mail of offers I recieved. Please, I included my mail here so please do NOT spam!!!!!!!!!
Womans name is apparently Clemy Kolaris or something like that. She wanted to buy a DVD and ship it to a friend on Nigeria:


Hey,what is wrong i have not heard from you please i
want to hear from as soon as possible because am
worried Regards
Dr Cley

--- Martin Gagliardi
wrote:

> Unfortunately, I couldn't find the shipping rate.
> What we can do is give it
> to you. And then you ship it at your convenience.
> Can you give me your phone
> number or postal code to contact you?
> Regards,
> Martin
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "clemy kolaris"
> To: "Martin G"
>
> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 9:35 AM
> Subject: Re: DVD Zenith
>
>
> > hello
> > i'm happy form ur quick response concerning the
> item
> > and i will likie to inform you that the address
> that i
> > will be sending the item to is:
> > Name: Gbadebo Johnson
> > Address: No35 Ayetoro str
> > City: Ile-Ife
> > State:Osun State
> > Country:Niegeria
> > Postcode:234036
> >
> > So, i will make the payment anytime you gt back to
> me
> > that u've found out about the shipping rate.
> > i hope to read from you soon.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Martin G
>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Can you tell me what city of Nigeria. I am
> seeking
> >> for the shipping rate.
> >> Regards,
> >> Martin
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: clemy kolaris
> >> To: Martin G
> >> Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 9:00 AM
> >> Subject: Re: DVD Zenith
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks for your mail
> >> ] ok i will make the
> >> payment but i will like to inform you that i will
> >> like to send the item to a friend in nigeria and
> i
> >> will like if you can help me send the item to him
> >> via fedex and i will give you my fedex account
> >> number that you will take to fedex office, and
> they
> >> will bill the shipping cost from the account so
> get
> >> back to me with the total price so i can make the
> >> payment as soon as possible. thanks
> >> Cley.
> >>
> >> Martin G
>
> >> wrote:
> >> Can you pay me through Paypal??? if so, you
> can
> >> send the cash to
> >> george.gagliardi@sympatico.ca
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "clemy kolaris"
> >> To: "Martin G"
> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 6:22 AM
> >> Subject: Re: DVD Zenith
> >>
> >>
> >> >i Good day to you i'm happy that i'm happy
> that
> >> i'm
> >> > the hihgest bidder i will like to inform
> you
> >> that i
> >> > will be sending this item to somewhere and
> i
> >> will be
> >> > paying you with the best online payment
> called
> >> Bidpay
> >> > in which the money will be delivered in
> your
> >> personal
> >> > address in cash. so get back to me with
> your
> >> full name
> >> > and address so that i can make the payment.
> >> > Regards.




ANOTHER ONE: Name, Lola Ajayi

Dear seller,
I am very interested in your item and i want to no how much you are
selling it cause i will like to buy it for a friend that is going to get
married very soon in Nigeria,so i want to know if you can ship to nigeria and
how much will it cost me ,the price of the item and the shipping cost. i
will prefer fedex or ups so that i will not runout of their marriage
schedule so get back to me asap.
Regards
lola.





THOSE ARE SOME OF THE E-MAILS I HAD RECIEVED.... I THINK I HAVE A COUPLE MORE, WHEN I FIND THEM I'LL POST THEM.
I wished I could spam this people :evil:
Please don't spam my address, I just put it so people could see it was real.....

basscleff
Aug 23rd, 2005, 11:17 PM
without plugging my site, I posted an article i found in the news about the network of these scammers, and how elaborate it is.

I don't have the link handy at the moment.. need sleep.. will post it for all tomorrow :)

espeed
Sep 2nd, 2005, 05:50 PM
I almost got scammed on Craigstlist, good thing I read this post.

see below:

lizzyworldx@yahoo.com Lizzy Dolls

1st message

"Hello,
I saw your item and it was just what i have been dying to get all
these while.
I will like to know the actual condition of this item of yours and
get back to me on time so that ican proceed with the payment.Please
iam so intrested i dont mind offering $320.Thanks for your
anticipated coperation."

2nd message

"hello Thanks for the response,as for the payment method i will be sending you a
Western union Money Order and it will be handled by Bidpay.bidpay is an
organisation that help both the seller and the buyer in transacting
bussiness first the payment is in pending notification and later
approved so you will recieve a confirmation of payment
immediately my
payment has been approved by bidpay for the shipping i will be
responsible for that, and i will be picking up the item with my
personal fedex account upon reciept of confirmation of payment order
approved.So get back to me on time with the information needed for
the payment(name,address,city,state and zipcode )so as to
commence with the payment.Hope to hear from you soon.Thanks"

PS i was selling the item for $250