Rogers Basic Cable TV Going Up

[Montecore]

effect June 30, 2005 its going up to 1.00 , due to operational and increased programming cost . That really pisses me off , they already did an increase last year because of the CRTC .

Rogers need competition , thats why they can afford to keep hiking up the prices . If only I can survive with just 2 channels but thats not the case .

[runamuck]

..they got us all by the balls

[aquariaguy]

Go to Bell. I love Sympatico.

[ronny1980]

Go to Bell. I love Sympatico.

I hate sympatico

[Rometiklan]

I hate sympatico

Because...?

I've never been a customer of Sympatico, so it would be helpful to gain some insights as to why people like or dislike their service.

[ronny1980]

Because...?

I've never been a customer of Sympatico, so it would be helpful to gain some insights as to why people like or dislike their service.

We used to run Sympatico with our wireless.

The WAP is upstairs in my mom's room while my room is in the basement.

Whenever I play games which require fast movements like counterstrike the character moves 0.5 seconds after I press the key. This will happen even when the latency is below 50.

This never happened after I switched to rogers.

[Montecore]

Sympatico does not offer TV cable or services .

[Rogue_77]

what about cogeco?

[Jump]

Aren't Cogeco, Shaw, and Videotron subsidiaries of Rogers? I always thought they were cause it seems like whenever there's no Red Rogers around, there's always one of those guys instead. They never seem to overlap in areas.

[Montecore]

Aren't Cogeco, Shaw, and Videotron subsidiaries of Rogers?
yes , that why Rogers can afford to gauge customers at every opportunity especially with the TV cable increases .

[MrDisco]

i use basic analog cable tv. i will not switch to digital unless they can offer the same low rate/month.

[hightech05]

You may not have a choice rogers will be all digital by 2007.

[Melfice]

The good news is that the additional charge for Rogers Hi-Speed without basic cable will be discontinued. Save extra $10. :D

[devious9191]

Has anyone heard any details on the Rogers VOIP? I had thought that it was supposed to be out around June/July.

[davecanada]

look out for tv over ip....

It is in place inEurope in some countries.

[AudiDude]

Aren't Cogeco, Shaw, and Videotron subsidiaries of Rogers? I always thought they were cause it seems like whenever there's no Red Rogers around, there's always one of those guys instead. They never seem to overlap in areas.

No, they aren't. Cable companies must obtain a licence from the CRTC to operate in the areas that they do. The CRTC will not allow the big boys (rogers and videotron) to go into the areas where the small guys (Aurora, Cogeco) are and squash them.

Rogers fibre runs by the areas controlled by the small companies so they are around, just not legally accessible. The next time you are at a major intersection with some overhead wiring, look up for the fibres. They are thick black cables that go from pole to pole and they have coloured binders wrapped around them (looks like a stretched slinky) to identify them.

Orange is Bell fibre, Yellow is rogers, Blue is Shaw, White/Solid orange FCI broadband (Futureway Communications) and White is... I'm sorry,I don't know that one. If the companies were the same they would use the same cables.

[NG]

They're also test marketing cable TV via phone lines in some provs.

As for Cogeco et al - they're not really owned by Rogers (but Rogers does have a minority stake in Cogeco) however regions are regulated by the CRTC to keep someone in a Rogers area from subscribing to Shaw for example. If somebody started a petition to deregulate Cable TV I'd sign it since from what I've heard the services and pricing from Shaw rocks compared to my current Cogeco.

[NG]

No, they aren't. Cable companies must obtain a licence from the CRTC to operate in the areas that they do. The CRTC will not allow the big boys (rogers and videotron) to go into the areas where the small guys (Aurora, Cogeco) are and squash them.


Damn - beat me to it while I was eating watermelon and typing my reply :p


and p.s. my cogeco bill just went up recently too. I think it was an across the board approval so it's gonna be more for everybody.

[AudiDude]

Has anyone heard any details on the Rogers VOIP? I had thought that it was supposed to be out around June/July.

Late July is what I am hearing. Nobody at Rogers is saying anything definite. The CSRs don't know anything, and the top level techs know very little.

BTW it is packet over cable not VOIP. The difference is that the IP layer is not accessible to the end user. They may offer true VOIP service later, but the initial service is just phone over cable.

The advantages? Cheaper than Bell who can't lower their prices to compete because of CRTC regulations. Those of you with Rogers GSM, highspeed and digital cable services will get the most awesome bundle pricing if you change your land line as well.

[aquariaguy]

i use basic analog cable tv. i will not switch to digital unless they can offer the same low rate/month.

I thought it affects us?

My parents got a letter in the mail today, saying that all all tv is going up. We have analog too. (No box thingie)

[hightech05]

Lets see you want to pay the same for 5 times the amount of channels.

[AudiDude]

For anybody that is interested here is a link to Cox Communications (cable provider in the US) who has been successful with their phone service. They ranked number one over QWest who is a telco. Rogers will be using the same equipment. The link answers some basic questions you may have.

http://www.cox.com/Telephone/FAQs.asp#P4_1086

[P__S__2]

I hate sympatico


lmao Me too.

[sixer]

Why have basic Rogers cable over Bell expressvu?

Bell is cheaper and you get 100+ channels plus timeshifting, all in digital! Only $25 a month and that doesn't even count the discounts if you bundle.

Seems pretty easy to me.

[gilboman]

Why have basic Rogers cable over Bell expressvu?

Bell is cheaper and you get 100+ channels plus timeshifting, all in digital! Only $25 a month and that doesn't even count the discounts if you bundle.

Seems pretty easy to me.


what about additional TV's?? i have 6 tv's in the house and i need fairchild..bell charges arm and a leg just for that channel

[AudiDude]

what about additional TV's?? i have 6 tv's in the house and i need fairchild..bell charges arm and a leg just for that channel

You'd be better off with a Rogers digital box tuned to Fairchild and a modulator injecting the signal back into the cable feed for the whole house (after the split for the cable modem of course) to enjoy. Some modulator systems can send the remote control signals back to the box via the coax, if you ever need to change the channel.

[hightech05]

Rogers it is very simple

Tmn Ondemand
Rogers ondemand
Time Shifting
Sports pack
Digital Specialty channels

[Ducay]

Aren't Cogeco, Shaw, and Videotron subsidiaries of Rogers?

I dont think any of them are subsidiaries. (Although I have no clue on Videotron)

Shaw is its own company and has nothing to do with Rogers

And I beleive Cogego simply uses Rogers infrastructure. But is a seperate company. (Kinda like 3Web and shaw)

[DJXP]

so its true... everyone out there watches tv except me eh ?

[Audiogenic]

The rate increase will be happening in June....except for Bundles customers which is scheduled for August.

Rogers does have competition for Internet and Wireless, however, for cable, there are no direct competators....only indirect ones (ExpressVu, Star Choice, ect.)

[ephemera]

Will we be forced now to pay for lame channels that no one watches but are subsidised by us?

Why don't we have MTV and HBO?

Cable is going up, but so is Everything. Everything is costing more and more.

I don't mind paying more if they gave us real CHOICE in what channels we get. I have many that I have blocked on my tv so I don't have to see them whilst channel surfing.

[anyone_here]

Rogers need the money so the Jays can finish 4th instead of last place.

[plymouthhater]

look out for tv over ip....

It is in place inEurope in some countries.


http://www.microsoft.com/tv/content/press/BellCanadaPR.mspx

[hightech05]

For the most part rogers and bell carry the same channels.There are a few each does not have but the other does but no much.But the keeper for me is the ondemand.

[Jump]

No, they aren't. Cable companies must obtain a licence from the CRTC to operate in the areas that they do. The CRTC will not allow the big boys (rogers and videotron) to go into the areas where the small guys (Aurora, Cogeco) are and squash them.


Thanks Audi! :) I've been wondering about that for a while.

[AudiDude]

Thanks Audi! :) I've been wondering about that for a while.

No problem, but don't be surprised if Rogers goes nuts and tries to purchase everything. Ted is on the warpath these days.

[felix]

really wish I could get sattelite in my building .. :(

[hightech05]

exress/vu does not offer alot more.

Rogers

50 Basic
38 Specialty channels
40 time shift
7 movie channels
3 on demand channels
16 international channels

Express vu
55 basic
36 specialty channels
50 time shift
7 movie
20 international

[Iron Chef Ajax]

exress/vu does not offer alot more.

Rogers

50 Basic
38 Specialty channels
40 time shift
7 movie channels
3 on demand channels
16 international channels

Express vu
55 basic
36 specialty channels
50 time shift
7 movie
20 international
Just a question. Is Rogers Basic the best deal around? Should I switch to Satelite?

[hightech05]

Rogers is basic is is allright if that is what you want go to express vu/star choice.I think that is abit cheaper.But if you want digital go to rogers you get the same amount of channels.

[jerryhung]

The good news is that the additional charge for Rogers Hi-Speed without basic cable will be discontinued. Save extra $10. :D

Really? says where?
Now I might actually consider dropping basic cable (NOT digital). No more NBA to watch soon, and I stick to BT for TV shows

[Wiseman]

The good news is that the additional charge for Rogers Hi-Speed without basic cable will be discontinued. Save extra $10.

Is this true? Where has this been mentioned?

[purple_rabbit]

Aren't Cogeco, Shaw, and Videotron subsidiaries of Rogers? I always thought they were cause it seems like whenever there's no Red Rogers around, there's always one of those guys instead. They never seem to overlap in areas.

Videotron is owned by Quebecor media which runs mainly In the GMA.

The reason why there is no other company when rogers is there is because each market cannot sustain more than one cable company due to the extremely high investment of installing underground cables. Economically it is not viable. That is the reason why the satellite market is a little bit more competitive. Satellite companies can cover much more area for much less investment.

Second reason is that Rogers MIGHT have a legal monopoly, but I am not aware if Canada has laws which protect Rogers from competition. But then again, having satellite competitors on its own and the high cost of cable installation throughout the city is enough to dissuade other companies from entering the market

[jerryhung]

Is this true? Where has this been mentioned?

I wonder too
I just checked Rogers' website yesterday and the $10 (or $15) fees small font are still there, and I doubt they'll be dropped

[kellya]

Can someone explain what "on demand" is?

We currently don't have any cable/satellite (been tv free for 2 years now) Looking at picking it up again and it's basically between the better choice bundle through Rogers or the bundle through Bell (for tv and internet) I'm so confused. Rogers customer service at this point seems better (ie the Bell people seem even more confused than me) but the Bell prices seem better (but then it's hard to know if I'm comparing apples to apples)

Any input?

TIA,

Kelly

[hightech05]

Ondemand is like having a video store right there.tmnondemand has all the movies of the month plus series such as dead like me.And then rogersondemand is new movies old movies and a ton of other stuff.It is a great service.