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flito ray
May 29th, 2005, 08:10 AM
I hit the A+P at the Bramalea City Centre on May 27 at 10:30 pm. Ended up with a full cart of products, from Humpty Dumpty Cheesies, to a Single Serving (Prepared in store) Ceasar Salad (With real bacon bits), to @-Litre Cartons of 2% milk, Soy Milk, Lactose Free Milk. My biggest score was in the bakery... where I found FRESH cakes with the wrong Expiry date stamped on them (May 01 instead of Jun 01) - they were $10.00 each, so I got 1 of each of the two types of cakes that were there.

In total, I got $75.00 for free!

This is the kicker.... when I went to the customer service desk at about 12:15am (Saturday morning now)... nobody was there. I went to ask a cashier if someone could come over to the customer service desk to help me, and she said that if the staff at the desk had gone home, then it was closed (Even though this is a 24 HOUR LOCATION?!?!). I said, ok, so I guess you will be able to process all of my "Fresh or Free" items, and she said no, and that after 10:00pm (the time customer service people go home) they do not honor "fresh or free". I told her immediately to get the manager, which she did.

He reluctantly walked me over to the counter, all the while talking to me about "oh.. there are a few of ya out here who try to take advantage of a good thing", and "I know my morals wouldn't let me take all of this stuff without paying for it". What a load of crap he was dishing out as he stickered all of my items (About 20 in all). Took about 1 hr 20 min. of shopping to find them.

Well, anyways... only one cashier was open at that time of night. I was nice and let a few people go in front of me, as I was unsure of how long it would take to run my items through. Only one person was behind me when I started scanning items. Well, by the time they had processed all of my items (It took them over 10 minutes), the lineup had stretched to about 15 people (haha!). What a joke! The manager was back and forth and still didn't open up another cash register, even knowing how long it would take them to process my items. I couldn't help it, but I had to laugh at the lineup.. it was quite the scene, and kinda embarassing with all of those pissed off people staring at me wondering what was taking so long. I wonder how many of them actually realized that my entire cart of items was FREE. Anyways... thought I'd share that funny story.

hightech05
May 29th, 2005, 08:52 AM
Sobeys in kanata use to have a policy like this but they had to remove it.People would go in and look for items that had expired and do all there shopping for the week and not pay a dime.After 6 months it was getting out of hand and they removed the program.

NG
May 29th, 2005, 08:56 AM
Sobeys in kanata use to have a policy like this but they had to remove it.People would go in and look for items that had expired and do all there shopping for the week and not pay a dime.After 6 months it was getting out of hand and they removed the program.

LOL. How's that for a PR slogan. "We found the program showed too many expired items for sale in our store so we removed the program".

loho33
May 29th, 2005, 08:59 AM
In total, I got $75.00 for free!

I wonder how many of them actually realized that my entire cart of items was FREE. Anyways... thought I'd share that funny story.

:rolleyes:

hightech05
May 29th, 2005, 09:04 AM
When you have people claming $100 in expired grocerys yes i can see how they would pull the plug.

samj1
May 29th, 2005, 09:16 AM
To spend your time looking for expired goods is ridiculous and beyond cheap.

NG
May 29th, 2005, 09:16 AM
When you have people claming $100 in expired grocerys yes i can see how they would pull the plug.

If some guy can find $100 worth of expired food in a grocery store imho that's a problem in and of itself.

Reminds me when a few years ago grocery stores were caught "updating" the expiry date on meat products.

Homer88
May 29th, 2005, 09:20 AM
To spend your time looking for expired goods is ridiculous and beyond cheap.

Sorry but that I totally agree with

NG
May 29th, 2005, 09:24 AM
Sorry but that I totally agree with

I dunno. I find it rather comical myself. Plus I don't really have the time or effort to keep track of all the lies of corporations so it's good to hear (like with Staples) someone is keeping track of their lies

Besides....this is Red Flag Deals - ummm...I thought we all were here cause we're cheap?

flito ray
May 29th, 2005, 09:26 AM
I dunno. I find it rather comical myself. Plus I don't really have the time or effort to keep track of all the lies of corporations so it's good to hear (like with Staples) someone is keeping track of their lies

Besides....this is Red Flag Deals - ummm...I thought we all were here cause we're cheap?

I was there to buy stuff anyways. I don't think it's being cheap. It probably took me 1.5 hours total in dominion. I don't know how much money you guys make an hour, but to be able to walk out iwht $75 of free groceries is definitely a win.

I'm no scamming anyone. I'm just making them honour their policy. :lol:

plymouthhater
May 29th, 2005, 09:47 AM
Years ago I used to shop at Knob Hill Farms in the GTA. I used to find tons of stuff that was well beyond the "Best Before Date". On one particular occasion I took a bottle of Kraft Peppercorn Ranch dressing to the store manager that was 6 months out of date. The manager told me to mind my own business.

So, I called Kraft Canada to inquire what their policy is. Lo and behold, Kraft Canada has NO policy concerning retailers selling expired products. As per the customer service rep I spoke to at Kraft, "it is up to the consumer to check dates and be vigilant as to what they are purchasing".

I do realize that the "best before date" is only a guideline ie the product doesn't spoil at midnight on that day. However, I'd prefer to purchase merchandise still within the mfr's recommended lifespan.

HughG
May 29th, 2005, 10:41 AM
so I still dont get it.

If the cakes are expired dated, they are 10 bucks each, how do you get 75 bucks of free stuff ???

wanted
May 29th, 2005, 11:08 AM
Hey, don't you make 85k a year?
:|

flito ray
May 29th, 2005, 11:14 AM
so I still dont get it.

If the cakes are expired dated, they are 10 bucks each, how do you get 75 bucks of free stuff ???

cakes are expired, so they let you swap it with a "fresh" one.

I did that for a handful of cakes and a few other items that were expired as well.

impronto
May 29th, 2005, 11:15 AM
wait wait, i dont understand this, do you get the expired cakes for free? what? what did u get for free and how come up to $75, thanks.

Kai Viti
May 29th, 2005, 11:30 AM
How does this work? Do you take the expired item together with an unexpired item to Customer Service or do they have to get you the free replacement product?

hyperion
May 29th, 2005, 11:33 AM
Get a life dude, you spent 2h of your life getting expired food for free?? Do you plan on eating the expired food, or were you just doing A&P a favour and sorting out the bad produce?

Edit: they let you swap some of the expired items for fresh items?

googoo
May 29th, 2005, 11:40 AM
Dude you find something expired you get a new FRESH one for free.

We get a few People that come in eveery week JUST FOR THE FREE STUFF!

Some peope need to get a life! If you are looking at buying something and notice it's oudated SURE take it and get free one, but if you spend HOURS looking for stuff you have problems.

We have seen customers hide stuff so they could get it for free!!.

$100 in free stuff is NOTHING in a store that stocks well over a miilion dollars worth of product at any one time!

OH, we have more than 35000 different items(SKUs) sold in our store, good luck finding the time to check everything.

We DO NOT do "fresh or free" overnight, we aren't even allowed to do returns now.

We'll see how things change when we get bought out by Sobeys, or Metro, or ?

siriuskao
May 29th, 2005, 11:51 AM
To spend your time looking for expired goods is ridiculous and beyond cheap.

To spend your time looking for "price match" is ridiculous and beyond cheap. :)

how is this different from PM @ staples

bigdaddyyc
May 29th, 2005, 11:52 AM
this is just sad. Your gonna actually eat 10 cakes withint a few days (before they get expired) ? Waste of food, and pretty dishonest imo.

Blazin_Sunfire
May 29th, 2005, 11:53 AM
So, I called Kraft Canada to inquire what their policy is. Lo and behold, Kraft Canada has NO policy concerning retailers selling expired products. ..... Why would they?????

I do realize that the "best before date" is only a guideline ie the product doesn't spoil at midnight on that day. However, I'd prefer to purchase merchandise still within the mfr's recommended lifespan. congrats!!!! nost people would also prefer the same as you!!! ADUH!

Blazin_Sunfire
May 29th, 2005, 11:56 AM
Dude you find something expired you get a new FRESH one for free.

We get a few People that come in eveery week JUST FOR THE FREE STUFF!

Some peope need to get a life! If you are looking at buying something and notice it's oudated SURE take it and get free one, but if you spend HOURS looking for stuff you have problems.

We have seen customers hide stuff so they could get it for free!!.

$100 in free stuff is NOTHING in a store that stocks well over a miilion dollars worth of product at any one time!

OH, we have more than 35000 different items(SKUs) sold in our store, good luck finding the time to check everything.

We DO NOT do "fresh or free" overnight, we aren't even allowed to do returns now.

We'll see how things change when we get bought out by Sobeys, or Metro, or ?


hahaha i too work at dominions. however, $100 in free stuff is NOTHING in a store that stocks well over a miilion dollars worth of product at any one time! is not very informative! Although stores stock over a million dollars of product at any one time, the markup on the cost of the items is very slim! so $100 free stuff affects the profits greatly!

flito ray
May 29th, 2005, 11:57 AM
Edit: they let you swap some of the expired items for fresh items?

correction: they swap ALL expired items for fresh ones.

CSR
May 29th, 2005, 11:57 AM
To spend your time looking for "price match" is ridiculous and beyond cheap. :)

how is this different from PM @ staples

:lol:

Ducay
May 29th, 2005, 11:58 AM
God, I cant stand people like you. Theres cheap, then theres ghetto-poor, then there is you.

I have 0 respect for you. This combined with your trying to get your canadian tire free b/c you didnt sign and I doubt anyone has a shred of respect for you. Its jerks like you that ruin things for everyone else/

zoro69
May 29th, 2005, 11:58 AM
Awesome! Not a chance in hell I'd do that but I admire those who will. If they advertise it they can honour it. Now a real rfder would be on te phone to head office Monday to comment on them initially saying fresh or free wasn't available and the manager's comment on morals (bet you'd get something else out of it).

aquariaguy
May 29th, 2005, 12:07 PM
haha Dominion got OWNED.

It's kinda sad to see that Dominion has SO MUCH expired stuff on the shelves. Goes to show how crappy of a supermarket they are. How hard is it to take an expired cake off the shelf? Its not like its a little bottle with a sticker on it. Dominion and Sobey's both suck and are overpriced. Loblaws is the best, and anything owned by Loblaws. PC POINTS!!

flito ray
May 29th, 2005, 12:08 PM
haha Dominion got OWNED.

It's kinda sad to see that Dominion has SO MUCH expired stuff on the shelves. Goes to show how crappy of a supermarket they are. How hard is it to take an expired cake off the shelf? Its not like its a little bottle with a sticker on it. Dominion and Sobey's both suck and are overpriced. Loblaws is the best, and anything owned by Loblaws. PC POINTS!!

word. :D

flito ray
May 29th, 2005, 12:12 PM
this is just sad. Your gonna actually eat 10 cakes withint a few days (before they get expired) ? Waste of food, and pretty dishonest imo.

Well, I actually gave 2 of the cakes to my aunts and another one to my friend, and one for my parents.

Not going to waste.. :D

Lando
May 29th, 2005, 12:13 PM
Same as above, not something I would do but props to you for working the system. You shouldn't feel bad some huge company lost $100 for having expired goods on the shelves. If they advertise that slogan, they should pay the price. If they are that worried about it they should hire more staff to wander around and make sure stuff isn't expired (if you found all that in 2 hours, why couldn't some staff do it).

dvdvideo
May 29th, 2005, 12:13 PM
Seems very lame to me, but still they should not have so much food that is expired on the shelf. After all thier slogan does give people the impression that food is fresh there, and they should back it up.

Chookman
May 29th, 2005, 12:16 PM
Congrats to the OP on this. I have a friend who always shopped at A&P because of the fresh produce. About a month ago she bought a sealed pack of 6 tomatoes. When she got home, she opened it and the bottoms were all rotted with white fuzz etc. She went back and A&P wouldn't honour the policy because "it was taken home out of the store and she could have replaced them with bad ones." I'd guess that demographically, housewifes aged 50+ are not the people that would try to scam A&P out of 6 tomatoes, but A&P thought so and wouldn't budge on it. So now, she no longer shops there and they've lost $4-500 a month from her AND because of this story, whenever I pass by an A&P, I'll go grab a free product or two and be sure to inform customer service of this story and how many free products I've picked up since it occurred.

A&P will always suffer a net loss from me.

ji2o0k
May 29th, 2005, 12:21 PM
i personally wouldn't go out of my way to "track down" expired items so I could get them for free. If I came across something I was going to buy and it was expired, then yeah for sure I would make the grocery store honour their policy.

But as previous posters mentioned, think about it from the grocer's perspective. To have so many items expired is not a good sign and the grocery store has an obligation to its customers to offer "fresh" items. If they have so many items expired for sale, seems like they are scamming their customers since the customers believe they are buying fresh items.

If every customer manages to purchase one expired item and not bother to return the item, that is a pretty big bonus for the store.

Not cool in my opinion. I used to work at Dominion's and any expired cheese, we would just take off the cellophane, re-package and stamp with a new expiry date. I didn't think that was right but the manager's argument was...."cheese doesn't spoil easily".......I don't know about that but still didn't seem right to me.

justlam_
May 29th, 2005, 12:53 PM
Omg. Ur dumb. What a ***. Stop being cheap and pay for ur groceries.

Hurk
May 29th, 2005, 12:56 PM
Omg. Ur dumb. What a ***. Stop being cheap and pay for ur groceries.

Nod. %100 AGREE.

wanted
May 29th, 2005, 01:01 PM
Omg. Ur dumb. What a ***. Stop being cheap and pay for ur groceries.

ok, i agree some what.
but not too harsh lol.


please note, that this guy makes $85k a year everyone.

googoo
May 29th, 2005, 01:03 PM
I love some people!!

"markup on the cost of the items is very slim!" NO, markup on average is pretty high,25-30%, profit on the other hand is quite low.

Why are people stupid enough to think that stores are perfect?? Once again, we stock 35 000 DIFFERENT SKUs.... Do you really think we 3/4 of our day is checking for expired product?

Go int5o ANY large store that carries fresh product and you'll find stuff not just right?

What turns my stomach is the customer that used to come into the store on there way to work for the free coffee and breakfast treat(day old pastry), they ruined it for the REAL customers, now you pay for your coffee and we throw out everything after (I think, don't work in bakery)1 day reduced.

Then there are customers that come in 4 days after a "one day sale" ended and demand the "one day sale" price because they have shopped here for 20 years.

Or the customers that stopped shopping at our store because we stopped carrying Parlour Ice Cream....oh, that was 20 years too.

Or the customer that comes in when the floor is being washed there are signs all over, she slips and falls and sues the store because "there wasn't a sign where I slipped"

Or the customer that expects us to "price match" other stores, WE"VE NEVER done this except for the basics, bread,eggs,milk and a couple of other things.

Customers will readily complain when things go up 10%, but did I hear 1 good thing when we dropped 25% of our Health and Beauty by %20 ??? NOpe, not a word.

What about the customers that get frsh meat from the counter, then throw it in the freezer when they decide they don't want it.

Trust me, the stores aren't perfect some customers ruin it for everybody else.

Ever seen that happen at RFD?? I'm sure you have ... does this sound familiar "yeah that's a dope price YO, I bought as many as I could, don't know what I'm gonna do with dem!"

Brent

flito ray
May 29th, 2005, 01:04 PM
ok, i agree some what.
but not too harsh lol.


please note, that this guy makes $85k a year everyone.

so? I also help my parents out financially (ie. mortgage, groceries, etc) who are not as fortunate as me. They came here as immigrants with no money. I'm not ashamed of my poor upbringing.

Not everyone has parents that are rich and can buy them a new 3 series for their 16th birthday.

d_jedi
May 29th, 2005, 01:06 PM
To go out of your way just to search for expired items in an A&P store.. wow.. just.. wow. You spend HOURS and waste many people's time just to get a few free groceries? You have no life..

flito ray
May 29th, 2005, 01:08 PM
Omg. Ur dumb. What a ***. Stop being cheap and pay for ur groceries.

can you explain how not paying for expired groceries makes me a "***"?

justlam_
May 29th, 2005, 01:17 PM
can you explain how not paying for expired groceries makes me a "***"?

ur a *** cuz men aren't suppose to be cheap. and men don't hold up the line at supermarket to get free food.

d_jedi
May 29th, 2005, 01:22 PM
ur a *** cuz men aren't suppose to be cheap. and men don't hold up the line at supermarket to get free food.
Oh, be nice :D
It's not politically correct to insult someone that way anymore

flito ray
May 29th, 2005, 01:23 PM
ur a *** cuz men aren't suppose to be cheap. and men don't hold up the line at supermarket to get free food.

oh okay. thanks. I guess you're a *** too since you're cheap and also visit this site.

Ducay
May 29th, 2005, 01:28 PM
He may be cheap, but your antics are beyond cheap. Its really disgusting

mia2648
May 29th, 2005, 01:33 PM
Omg. Ur dumb. What a ***. Stop being cheap and pay for ur groceries.
This is really a rude comment. :mad: What is up with some of the flaming in this OP's post? He's not scamming the store or anything. If the store has a policy like this in place then they should honor it. He's cheap but so what?

Hurk
May 29th, 2005, 01:34 PM
can you explain how not paying for expired groceries makes me a "***"?

If you accidentally came across an expired item, not paying for that ONE or TWO items would be acceptable. You went on a hunt! You searched the store for one and a half hours hunting, searching through groceries looking for bad things. You could have easily pickup up what you wanted without it being bad and not exploiting the system. You are *WORSE* than a homeless person looking through trash; they are doing it to survive.

You give immigrants a bad name.

Hurk
May 29th, 2005, 01:36 PM
This is really a rude comment. :mad: What is up with some of the flaming in this OP's post? He's not scamming the store or anything. If the store has a policy like this in place then they should honor it. He's cheap but so what?

You are as ignorant as the OP. He is scamming the store, just like people who go out of their way to hunt for a PM at Staples. It's exploiting the system.

mia2648
May 29th, 2005, 01:43 PM
You are as ignorant as the OP. He is scamming the store, just like people who go out of their way to hunt for a PM at Staples. It's exploiting the system.

Anyone who disagrees with you is ignorant? So I guess all who agree with what the OP's doing is ignorant. People who PM Staples are also exploiting the system and also ignorant? If a store cannot follow their own policy then they should not advertise it.

Why don't you go to the hot deals section and argue your point with those who go out of their way to PM Staples. I guess lots of IGNORANTS on RFD, only you are the bright one here. LOL

Lando
May 29th, 2005, 01:44 PM
I think he is doing all other consumers a favor by making sure they don't end up purchasing expired goods. I hate buying something expired and not noticing until I get home, can't be bothered to drive all the way back to exchange it. If they advertise this policy, they should die by this policy.

googoo
May 29th, 2005, 01:50 PM
While I think he went from consumer to pest he has the right.

"I hate buying something expired and not noticing until I get home"

You should always check anything perishable before you leave ANY store.

I have no problem giving you free product if you were going to buy it anyways, but if you do it "because I can" well that's just not cool.

Brent

Hurk
May 29th, 2005, 01:53 PM
Anyone who disagrees with you is ignorant? So I guess all who agree with what the OP's doing is ignorant. People who PM Staples are also exploiting the system and also ignorant? If a store cannot follow their own policy then they should not advertise it.

Why don't you go to the hot deals section and argue your point with those who go out of their way to PM Staples. I guess lots of IGNORANTS on RFD, only you are the bright one here. LOL

Where does the scamming end? You *can* take candy from a baby, but HERE IN CANADA we frown upon that. You *can* look for expired food for 2 hours, but HERE IN CANADA we frown upon that. You *can* find a great deal at FS or BB for %75 off and then go to Staples and get it for free, but HERE IN CANADA we frown upon that.

It comes down to right and wrong, and you know why flito ray got embarassed? Because he KNEW he was doing something immoral. You know that awkward feeling you get in your stomach when you are ripping someone off, that's your conscience, and if you don't get that feeling, there's something wrong with you.

aquariaguy
May 29th, 2005, 01:59 PM
please note, that this guy makes $85k a year everyone.

Why do you keep on pointing that out? Is it because you're jealous he has a good job and makes more than you? What does that have to do with this?

mia2648
May 29th, 2005, 01:59 PM
Where does the scamming end? You *can* take candy from a baby, but HERE IN CANADA we frown upon that. You *can* look for expired food for 2 hours, but HERE IN CANADA we frown upon that. You *can* find a great deal at FS or BB for %75 off and then go to Staples and get it for free, but HERE IN CANADA we frown upon that.

It comes down to right and wrong, and you know why flito ray got embarassed? Because he KNEW he was doing something immoral. You know that awkward feeling you get in your stomach when you are ripping someone off, that's your conscience, and if you don't get that feeling, there's something wrong with you.

Wow, then there's something wrong with lots of people on RFD. They all love to PM Staples.

flito ray
May 29th, 2005, 02:00 PM
Where does the scamming end? You *can* take candy from a baby, but HERE IN CANADA we frown upon that. You *can* look for expired food for 2 hours, but HERE IN CANADA we frown upon that. You *can* find a great deal at FS or BB for %75 off and then go to Staples and get it for free, but HERE IN CANADA we frown upon that.

It comes down to right and wrong, and you know why flito ray got embarassed? Because he KNEW he was doing something immoral. You know that awkward feeling you get in your stomach when you are ripping someone off, that's your conscience, and if you don't get that feeling, there's something wrong with you.

who said i was scamming anyone? I'm resent the fact that you're saying I did something wrong when they clearly state their "Fresh or free" policy. One could argue the same with Staples. I bet you're one of those people that would turn down a good PM just to pay staples the $200 for a mouse/keyboard combo. Ya right. If you're gonna critcize me, at least don't be a hypcrite for christ's sakes.

flito ray
May 29th, 2005, 02:01 PM
If you accidentally came across an expired item, not paying for that ONE or TWO items would be acceptable. You went on a hunt! You searched the store for one and a half hours hunting, searching through groceries looking for bad things. You could have easily pickup up what you wanted without it being bad and not exploiting the system. You are *WORSE* than a homeless person looking through trash; they are doing it to survive.

You give immigrants a bad name.

you didn't answer my question.

mia2648
May 29th, 2005, 02:02 PM
Why do you keep on pointing that out? Is it because you're jealous he has a good job and makes more than you? What does that have to do with this?

Good point.

aquariaguy
May 29th, 2005, 02:03 PM
You are as ignorant as the OP. He is scamming the store, just like people who go out of their way to hunt for a PM at Staples. It's exploiting the system.

Obviously you have to go out of your way to find a PM. Its not like you will show up at the cashier at Staples and they'll say, "By the way, you can PM this with Futureshop and get a better deal and so our (Staples) over priced items seem like a better deal now!"

Its not exploiting the system, its called using the system thats in place.
If you're whining about people exploting a simple PM system, you should go and shoot the people exploiting the welfare system and EI.

Hurk
May 29th, 2005, 02:06 PM
who said i was scamming anyone?
I did.

I'm resent the fact that you're saying I did something wrong when they clearly state their "Fresh or free" policy.
You did something that is very immoral, and something many normal people would consider wrong. You are the minority here.

One could argue the same with Staples. I bet you're one of those people that would turn down a good PM just to pay staples the $200 for a mouse/keyboard combo. Ya right. If you're gonna critcize me, at least don't be a hypcrite for christ's sakes.
What are you talking about? Hypocrite? I've done 2 PM's in my life and both were actually offered to me by the Staples employee. What did I do with the money I saved? I bought an extended warranty. I was going to pay full price anyways, so I got a free extended warranty.

What you did was wrong and immoral and you, and everyone else knows it.

flito ray
May 29th, 2005, 02:08 PM
What are you talking about? Hypocrite? I've done 2 PM's in my life and both were actually offered to me by the Staples employee. What did I do with the money I saved? I bought an extended warranty. I was going to pay full price anyways, so I got a free extended warranty.


lol okay guy.

Hurk
May 29th, 2005, 02:11 PM
Obviously you have to go out of your way to find a PM. Its not like you will show up at the cashier at Staples and they'll say, "By the way, you can PM this with Futureshop and get a better deal and so our (Staples) over priced items seem like a better deal now!"

Compare Staples to FS, BB, or any other chain. Staples beats them most of the time. Price changes are done daily to avoid people like you who abuse the system.

If you're whining about people exploting a simple PM system, you should go and shoot the people exploiting the welfare system and EI.

Yes they should be shot because they are taking my hard earned tax dollar, just like people who PM Staples. Staples will have to find a way to make up the costs, while still beating the prices of everyone else.

flito ray
May 29th, 2005, 02:13 PM
Compare Staples to FS, BB, or any other chain. Staples beats them most of the time. Price changes are done daily to avoid people like you who abuse the system.



Yes they should be shot because they are taking my hard earned tax dollar, just like people who PM Staples. Staples will have to find a way to make up the costs, while still beating the prices of everyone else.

just when i thought i heard it all. this guy is unbelievable. if you're so against the "scams" what the heck are you doing on a deals site. You shouldn't read flyers either cuz there's deals in there. Did you know some products are loss leaders? Better not buy those. It's a scam to the company!!!!

gh05t
May 29th, 2005, 02:15 PM
All these stores use these slogans as marketing to get you into their stores to buy overpriced products so why not take advantage of their policy if you have the time which they are supposed to stand behind.

Staples has a 150% PM policy not because they have the cheapest price but again a marketing ploy to get people into the store and away from competitors under the pretense that they seemingly have the lowest prices and so you need not bother going elsewhere.

At A and P the "it's fresh or it's free free" policy is to cater to those who are willing to pay the premium price for the freshness they value over price and so will not shop at Price chopper etc because they do not guarantee freshness so it is necessary to keep A and P on their toes and make sure they honour the freshness policy.

Guys who do this are helping out the shoppers who do not bother to check for freshness but are still paying a premium price for the same product that could be had at Price Chopper or No Frills cheaper.

To me a box of corn flakes is a box of corn flakes and i see no reason for paying up to 50% more at A and P when i can get it at Price chopper for a lower price.

One of my cousins although she could barely afford it, would continue to shop at Dominion and would not be seen in Price Chopper although she could get most of the stuff cheaper there because she needed to seem rich and higher in status in society than she really was.

jayisthebest88
May 29th, 2005, 02:15 PM
your pathetic...

flito ray
May 29th, 2005, 02:17 PM
One of my cousins although she could barely afford it, would continue to shop at Dominion and would not be seen in Price Chopper although she could get most of the stuff cheaper there because she needed to seem rich and higher in status in society than she really was.

I pity those that need to seek status in life by being selective about their grocery store.

Those that are rich generally don't flaunt it. It's the poseurs of the world that are in fact not rich at all. Oh well to each their own. I'm comfortable with who I am.

Hurk
May 29th, 2005, 02:21 PM
gh05t,

You see no problem with someone walking into a store, looking for $75 - $100 of bad products, going to the cashier and saying "I get these free, they are bad". Walking out without paying a dime.

You normally have a decent head on your shoulders, so if you can honestly say you think that is perfectly fine. So be it, maybe I am the minority here, but going into a store with the intent to rip them off, doesn't sit well with me.

I wonder how many of them actually realized that my entire cart of items was FREE.

aquariaguy
May 29th, 2005, 02:27 PM
Compare Staples to FS, BB, or any other chain. Staples beats them most of the time. Price changes are done daily to avoid people like you who abuse the system.



Yes they should be shot because they are taking my hard earned tax dollar, just like people who PM Staples. Staples will have to find a way to make up the costs, while still beating the prices of everyone else.

Staples beats them most of the time?! HAHAHA! That's so funny. IF staples did beat them most of the time, why would we have to PM staples to death? Also, the only reason price changes are done DAILY, is because people at Staples visit this site 24/7 to monitor their extremely high prices.

Do you have stock in Staples? Do you work at Staples? It seems like u're defending a corporation because..........? If staples was the same price as future shop or bestbuy, or office depot, they wouldn't have to find a way to make it up. Do you pay taxes to Staples? Are you scared if Staples goes under, you can't PM anywhere?

If it wasn't for RFD, Staples wouldn't be able to change their prices as fast because they wouldn't give a ****.

aquariaguy
May 29th, 2005, 02:32 PM
gh05t,

You see no problem with someone walking into a store, looking for $75 - $100 of bad products, going to the cashier and saying "I get these free, they are bad". Walking out without paying a dime.

You normally have a decent head on your shoulders, so if you can honestly say you think that is perfectly fine. So be it, maybe I am the minority here, but going into a store with the intent to rip them off, doesn't sit well with me.

I am glad that someone did this. Finally some light is shed onto Dominion and their shaddy deals. Read the 2nd page i think it was, someone said they worked at Dominion and sold old cheese. I hope you buy cheese one day there and get a nice green happy coliform bacteria. Oh wait, you won't though, because you're probaly scared to shop at Dominion as well and their overpriced groceries.

If it wasn't for people with balls, you wouldn't hear about all the negative stuff about the big corporations.

So I guess you don't buy anything below MSRP, for fear of hurting the CEO's pockets.

Hurk
May 29th, 2005, 02:33 PM
Staples beats them most of the time?! HAHAHA! That's so funny. IF staples did beat them most of the time, why would we have to PM staples to death?

Show me a retail product that FS, BB or any other large company has in stock that is everyday cheaper than Staples. I chose 3 random products and all 3 were cheaper at Staples.

Instead of just flapping your gums, give an example if you want to prove me wrong.

aquariaguy
May 29th, 2005, 02:36 PM
Show me a retail product that FS, BB or any other large company has in stock that is everyday cheaper than Staples. I chose 3 random products and all 3 were cheaper at Staples.

Instead of just flapping your gums, give an example if you want to prove me wrong.

All you have to do is take a stroll into the Hot Deals forums. You'll rarely see, "HOT DEAL BLAH BLAH BLAH @ STAPLES".

ainsane
May 29th, 2005, 02:38 PM
Wow, searching through the store for that long is definately taking advantage of their policy. You can only compare this to PM'ing at Staples if you buy ALL of your stuff with a PM at Staples... not just one thing, once in a while.

This is truley pathetic. Even bums on the street don't resort to this, they rather just starve to death. Unless you have a family to feed and you can't afford groceries any other way..... you should be ashamed.

Lando
May 29th, 2005, 02:39 PM
It is the company ripping off the consumer by selling expired goods! And to the person who said I should check every perishable item (before I get home), damn rights I try but I can't be bothered to take the time to check every single item (even some you would think never have a BB date). If you argue that the grocery store doesn't have the time either, then they shouldn't advertise that policy or they should hire more workers to check for expired goods.

d_jedi
May 29th, 2005, 02:41 PM
Show me a retail product that FS, BB or any other large company has in stock that is everyday cheaper than Staples. I chose 3 random products and all 3 were cheaper at Staples.

Instead of just flapping your gums, give an example if you want to prove me wrong.
http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10040936&catid=
http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Catalog/cat_sku.asp?CatIds=89%2C97,306&webid=584744&affixedcode=WW

C'mon Hurk, try harder.. I'm sure you can find many more examples.

Ducay
May 29th, 2005, 02:44 PM
. if you're so against the "scams" what the heck are you doing on a deals site.


This is a deals site, not exploit people site

ji2o0k
May 29th, 2005, 02:48 PM
yeah it was me that mentioned the old cheese and the re-packaging. This is just from my personal experience. I worked in the deli at Dominion's as a teenager during the summer many years ago.

The deli had some really bad practices. The cheese is a good example. If there was moldy cheese, the manager would just slice off the part that was moldy and then re-package and re-sell (worked especially well if the cheese in block form).

Deli meats were only supposed to last I think for a week or two. But often there would be so much pre-sliced, we would just flip them so it would look fresh. Anything longer than 2-3 weeks would be vacuumed packed and stickered with an expiry date. These stickers were easily removed and then re-applied with newer expiry dates. Same with pre-made salads (such as coleslaw etc). Flip and it looks new. Oh, the pre-made soup, was just reheated and reheated over again.

Sort of off-topic to the thread but that specific grocery store was pretty bad.

BTW: The deli manager instructed me on how to do this.

googoo
May 29th, 2005, 02:57 PM
"they should hire more workers to check for expired goods."

tHE CIRCLE OF INCREASING COSTS JUST KEEPS GETTING BIGGER. Hire more people, pay more wages, increase prices to cover, people complain, start again.

The change of you find an expired product is probably 1-1000(could be 1-5000), and A&p considers this a way of getting the consumer to do the job. Find 100 of the same product outdated and we'll give you 1 for free sounds good to me.

Please remember that EVERy STORE has some problems.

I have never seen a product(other than meat, because of blood) that gets rewrapped, and I've been in the industry for almost 21 years! I know I know, produce is culled, and bags of oranges with 1 bad one are opened and sold as single, but you don't throw away a bunch of grapes for 1 bad one.

I've had enough, no one listens, have fun.

Brent

flito ray
May 29th, 2005, 03:25 PM
The change of you find an expired product is probably 1-1000(could be 1-5000), and A&p considers this a way of getting the consumer to do the job. Find 100 of the same product outdated and we'll give you 1 for free sounds good to me.

Brent


That idea won't fly. I looked at some shelves. They only have 20-30 of the same product on the shelf.

ainsane
May 29th, 2005, 03:28 PM
That idea won't fly. I looked at some shelves. They only have 20-30 of the same product on the shelf.

You totally misunderstood what he said. He said the CHANCE of finding an expired product is probably 1 in 1000. And A&P only gives you 1 replacement of a certain product, no matter how many of the same product are expired.

Learn to read.

peterbrowne
May 29th, 2005, 03:34 PM
First month they offered the program I started using it. Then sheridan centre dominion started checking for expired products. I got:

- Renees salad dressing
- Rowe farm eggs
- Cake
- Cheese
- 2 4L MILK
- Meat
Lots of stuff

Since then, well, they remove bad products

flito ray
May 29th, 2005, 03:39 PM
You totally misunderstood what he said. He said the CHANCE of finding an expired product is probably 1 in 1000. And A&P only gives you 1 replacement of a certain product, no matter how many of the same product are expired.

Learn to read.

No read this:


Find 100 of the same product outdated and we'll give you 1 for free sounds good to me.


Sounds like you're the one that needs to learn how to read. Not me.

flito ray
May 29th, 2005, 03:40 PM
First month they offered the program I started using it. Then sheridan centre dominion started checking for expired products. I got:

- Renees salad dressing
- Rowe farm eggs
- Cake
- Cheese
- 2 4L MILK
- Meat
Lots of stuff


that's hot.

Since then, well, they remove bad products

that's not.

TinyTank
May 29th, 2005, 03:41 PM
your pathetic...

you have not earned the right to speak to a member like dat. Appolozie.

ainsane
May 29th, 2005, 03:48 PM
Sounds like you're the one that needs to learn how to read. Not me.

Oh man... I shouldn't have gotten involved with this. >:(

Anyway let me try to explain this to you again. He was describing how A&P's policy actually works... he wasn't giving his OWN idea for a policy. Their policy is find one or more of the SAME product which is expired and they will give you 1 free one. So if you find 10 packages of the exact same cheddar cheese which is expired, you don't get 10 free ones. You only get 1 free one... but the store now knows there are more so they got rid of the other 9.

I know you still won't be able to wrap your one directional brain around this so I give up.

flito ray
May 29th, 2005, 03:54 PM
Oh man... I shouldn't have gotten involved with this. >:(

Anyway let me try to explain this to you again. He was describing how A&P's policy actually works... he wasn't giving his OWN idea for a policy. Their policy is find one or more of the SAME product which is expired and they will give you 1 free one. So if you find 10 packages of the exact same cheddar cheese which is expired, you don't get 10 free ones. You only get 1 free one... but the store now knows there are more so they got rid of the other 9.

I know you still won't be able to wrap your one directional brain around this so I give up.

NO. asking a customer to find 100 of an item that is expired before getting one free is hardly worth it for the customer. Not to mention that's a lot of work to do. LIke I said previously there are many items on the shelf that do NOT total to 100. So what happens if i go to the green beans section and find 90 cans that are expired. Would I be out of luck???????????

ainsane
May 29th, 2005, 03:56 PM
NO. asking a customer to find 100 of an item that is expired before getting one free is hardly worth it for the customer. Not to mention that's a lot of work to do. LIke I said previously there are many items on the shelf that do NOT total to 100. So what happens if i go to the green beans section and find 90 cans that are expired. Would I be out of luck???????????

Oh dear God. You have to be kidding me. Maybe someone with more patience can explain it.

I give up.

jayisthebest88
May 29th, 2005, 04:02 PM
you have not earned the right to speak to a member like dat. Appolozie.


sorry tiny tank, but the other guy is still pathetic...

Madcatmk2
May 29th, 2005, 04:46 PM
If some guy can find $100 worth of expired food in a grocery store imho that's a problem in and of itself.

Reminds me when a few years ago grocery stores were caught "updating" the expiry date on meat products.

The following applies to Quebec City: Just to tell that MAXI are very bad with meat products. Sure they are the cheapest in town but don't go there for meat.

TinyTank
May 29th, 2005, 04:47 PM
sorry tiny tank, but the other guy is still pathetic...

well u are rite, he is pathetic.

Ducay
May 29th, 2005, 05:21 PM
you have not earned the right to speak to a member like dat. Appolozie.

You have not earned the right to try and be a mod.

/your life

eBuddy
May 29th, 2005, 06:13 PM
Congratulations to flito ray, who got a legitimate deal that is in no way immoral or unethical. Just because 99% of Staples' shoppers like Hurk cannot be bothered to get a 150% PM does not mean that there is anything wrong with RFDers that want to get a deal. Just because 99.9% of A&P shoppers cannot be bothered with the "Fresh or Free" policy, there is nothing wrong with flito ray and others complying with A&P's marketing gimmick.

What is inappropriate are all the hateful, discriminatory and rude posts against him, for sharing in Red Flag DEALS that he got a deal. It's as if Karla Hamolka made an evil post, the way some have crucified flito ray. :(

All these stores use these slogans as marketing to get you into their stores to buy overpriced products so why not take advantage of their policy if you have the time which they are supposed to stand behind.

Staples has a 150% PM policy not because they have the cheapest price but again a marketing ploy to get people into the store and away from competitors under the pretense that they seemingly have the lowest prices and so you need not bother going elsewhere.

At A and P the "it's fresh or it's free free" policy is to cater to those who are willing to pay the premium price for the freshness they value over price and so will not shop at Price chopper etc because they do not guarantee freshness so it is necessary to keep A and P on their toes and make sure they honour the freshness policy.

Guys who do this are helping out the shoppers who do not bother to check for freshness but are still paying a premium price for the same product that could be had at Price Chopper or No Frills cheaper.

flito ray
May 29th, 2005, 06:15 PM
Congratulations to flito ray, who got a legitimate deal that is in no way immoral or unethical. Just because 99% of Staples' shoppers like Hurk cannot be bothered to get a 150% PM does not mean that there is anything wrong with RFDers that want to get a deal. Just because 99.9% of A&P shoppers cannot be bothered with the "Fresh or Free" policy, there is nothing wrong with flito ray and others complying with A&P's marketing gimmick.

What is inappropriate are all the hateful, discriminatory and rude posts against him, for sharing in Red Flag DEALS that he got a deal. It's as if Karla Hamolka made an evil post, the way some have crucified flito ray. :(

thanks eBuddy. Finally someone that's responding with some intelligence! I can't believe the number of homophobic remarks against me even though I'm not even a homosexual. Oh the irony :lol:

ainsane
May 29th, 2005, 06:20 PM
thanks eBuddy. Finally someone that's responding with some intelligence! I can't believe the number of homophobic remarks against me even though I'm not even a homosexual. Oh the irony :lol:

That's not exactly irony. Look it up.

Also when everyone but 1 or 2 people don't agree with you... maybe it's you who lack the intelligence.

aquariaguy
May 29th, 2005, 06:41 PM
That's not exactly irony. Look it up.

Also when everyone but 1 or 2 people don't agree with you... maybe it's you who lack the intelligence.

Everyone but 1 or 2? Stop talking like a conservative.........from yer ass!

flito ray
May 29th, 2005, 06:50 PM
Everyone but 1 or 2? Stop talking like a conservative.........from yer ass!

LOL

jakeoh
May 29th, 2005, 06:52 PM
The following applies to Quebec City: Just to tell that MAXI are very bad with meat products. Sure they are the cheapest in town but don't go there for meat.
Just curious... how do you know?

cil254
May 29th, 2005, 06:58 PM
I know I wouldn't do what this guy did, but as far as I'm concerned he didn't steal anything, he did A&P a favour by pointing out so many expired products and got rewarded for it. He would not have got $100 worth of products if A&P did a better job at getting rid of expired products.
And concerning the margins in the groceries industry, I don't know what they are but I know one thing: A&P/Dominion often charges 50% more on lots of products, and I'm not comparing with sales item.

flito ray
May 29th, 2005, 07:02 PM
Perhaps this particular manager that I dealt with should work on being less "fresh" with his mouth, and more "fresh" with his merchandise! lol :lol:

runamuck
May 29th, 2005, 07:10 PM
You are as ignorant as the OP. He is scamming the store, just like people who go out of their way to hunt for a PM at Staples. It's exploiting the system.



the whole point of doing a PM is to find a cheeper competitive price elsewhere...theres nothing "out of the way" about it....

i nominate this the most ignorant post of the day

Ducay
May 29th, 2005, 07:18 PM
Congratulations to flito ray, who got a legitimate deal that is in no way immoral or unethical. Just because 99% of Staples' shoppers like Hurk cannot be bothered to get a 150% PM does not mean that there is anything wrong with RFDers that want to get a deal. Just because 99.9% of A&P shoppers cannot be bothered with the "Fresh or Free" policy, there is nothing wrong with flito ray and others complying with A&P's marketing gimmick.

What is inappropriate are all the hateful, discriminatory and rude posts against him, for sharing in Red Flag DEALS that he got a deal. It's as if Karla Hamolka made an evil post, the way some have crucified flito ray. :(


Great, its eBuddy, the RFDs lead expert on having no morals; here to backup her loser friend flito ray

north77
May 29th, 2005, 07:19 PM
My 2cents.

I think the policy is there for a reason. It distinguishes Dominion from their competition!

This helps the store eliminate OLD stock on shelves. If they can't hire approriate staff to clean up their act.. then customers like Flito Ray SHOULD point out to them THEY have a 'freshness' problem. End story. Think about it. From a cost perspective, it *usually* (within reason) is cheaper for the customer to bring it to the store attention, rather than hiring more staff. How long would it take an avergare customer to find one or two products? That takes time (usually unpaid).

If more customers haul out 75-100$ FREE per shopping trip, the store may hire more staff, or work those around them harder to comply, or cancel the policy altogether.

Flito Ray's shopping trip really should get the staff at that store to clean up their act. Dominion's and A&P's policy reads... 'Fresh or it's Free.' It's on EVERY flyer. Nothing wrong with 'doing it', if you've got the b@lls.

If you feel 'bad' about doing this for yourself, because you are too 'well off' or don't want to seem THAT cheap... then donate the food to a food bank or some one else that may need it.

Way to go Flito Ray! :)

Ryan
May 29th, 2005, 07:21 PM
People are getting way too heated up about this. Lock.