Star Wars vs Star Trek

[McLaren]

Who would win in a fight?

Imperial Star Destroyer
http://www.nonsolomartelli.net/Guerre%20Stellari/immagini%204/Star%20Destroyer.jpg

vs

USS Enterprise
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~geneh/startrek/pictures/Enterprise-D_top1.jpg

[shabby]

Planet Express.

[felix]

Star Trek Star Trek Star Trek Star Trek Star Trek Star Trek :)

[cmge]

ok.. lets not get started on this one....

[porphyra]

LOL...I have seen this question many a times on many a forum. And somehow it always swings in the favour of the more-fanboy dominated series.

However, I personally believe that the USS Enterprise would kick some serious star destroyer butt. Superior shields, photon torpedoes and the ability to fight at FTL speeds (a big plus over the Star wars universe). Also they seem more manouverable.

And this is just the Enterprise D.

Bring the Enterprise-E, USS Voyager from "Endgame" or the USS Prometheus and we are talking a totally different ballgame.

[luthair]

Trek 'seems' to have more advanced technology. However, aren't star destroyers a lot bigger? There also seems to be a ton of them, not to mention they have fighter craft.

Anyway its a pointless discussion, Wormhole Weapons from Farscape > * :lol:

[jordan23]

star trek! :cheesygri

[Cruel_Angel]

http://employees.csbsju.edu/rsorensen/modelcitizen/trekships/borg/borgcube.jpg

is the pwnage~

[Spare-Flair]

http://img276.echo.cx/img276/4963/ships4yv.jpg

You know those balls on the top of the Star Destroyer bridge? Those are a SD's shield emitters. Remember in RoTJ where they just blow them up and then smash a fighter into the bridge the whole thing goes out of control?

Enterprise could easily destroy them while the Enterprise has no outwardly vulnerable shield components.

Star Destroyers are much bigger but despite the size, ST ships with shields (especially Borg and their adaptive shielding) would win. Heck, the damn 17.5 kilometer long Super Star Destroyer is destroyed when a 5 meter long A-Wing crashes into the bridge.

[me!]

oh yeah, give me a cube any day. :twisted: (so long as it's on my side)

[Talamasca]

That Executor Class ship is just ridiculous. The amount of resources needed to build and maintain a 17km long ship strains the limits of credibility.

I'm not sure what the most powerful Star Trek ship is. Borg Tactical Cube? Jem'Hadar Super Battleship? Species 8472 ship?

[ragin_pyro]

Dude..a Tactical Fusion Cube!..8 tactical cubes..whip the **** outta those..but definatly the Voyager in Endgame would take them all out, that was pwnage.. It was 1 of my favs, jus cause of the action an all the special effects..

[Spare-Flair]

That Executor Class ship is just ridiculous. The amount of resources needed to build and maintain a 17km long ship strains the limits of credibility.

I'm not sure what the most powerful Star Trek ship is. Borg Tactical Cube? Jem'Hadar Super Battleship? Species 8472 ship?

What's even more ridiculous is taking out the exposed bridge will cause the whole thing to suddenly nosedive into the nearest Death Star. What? They don't have any gryoscopes in Star Wars?

The most powerful Star Trek ship is Q in a rubber dingy.

[me!]

That Executor Class ship is just ridiculous. The amount of resources needed to build and maintain a 17km long ship strains the limits of credibility.

I'm not sure what the most powerful Star Trek ship is. Borg Tactical Cube? Jem'Hadar Super Battleship? Species 8472 ship?


haha. Yeah, that executor class is hokey. I think the Enterprise from the future, or the armour plated Voyager from the future with the future Captain Janeway is pretty powerful. But I'd still go with a Cube. Those are awesome.

Don't follow DS9 That whole storey line was just too lame for me.

[Spare-Flair]

haha. Yeah, that executor class is hokey. I think the Enterprise from the future, or the armour plated Voyager from the future with the future Captain Janeway is pretty powerful. But I'd still go with a Cube. Those are awesome.

Don't follow DS9 That whole storey line was just too lame for me.

I don't understand why people always say that and it's usually only people who haven't really watched the show or seen the dominion war. Is 4 seasons of awesome Galactic-spanning war, drama, and a really dark show lame? It's probably the best of all the Trek after TOS.

[me!]

I don't understand why people always say that and it's usually only people who haven't really watched the show or seen the dominion war. Is 4 seasons of awesome Galactic-spanning war, drama, and a really dark show lame? It's probably the best of all the Trek after TOS.


Probably because of the episodes I watched, it got way too political and had too many religious overtones to it. Plus, I think they had weak characters.

It was beyond the point of no return for me. By the time I was considering giving it a second chance, the story line was way too developed for me to get a handle on what they were doing, who they were, and why they were doing the things they were doing.

[sfu_lifer]

NERDS!!!!




/sorry, I always wanted to post that :)

[me!]

NERDS!!!!




/sorry, I always wanted to post that :)


DORKS!!!!

[Super strokey]

Well the enterprise would totally win that battle, as for most powerful ship in Startrek i would have to side with one of those time ships as they could well you know... kill you when your a baby

[KevC]

Star Trek is Science Fiction.
Star Wars is Fantasy.

Star Wars will win because it doesn't *have* to make sense.

[DVST8]

I.M.O,

CG wise...Star Wars
Story wise... Star trek.

It'd be sooo cool if the BORG did assimilate a Jedi or Sith...that would be NUTS!!

Give me a Light saber over a phaser anyday...But my heart would have to go with STAR TREK...simply because I enjoy movies/shows with such carefully thought out stories, theories and other gibblets that make you think.

[NG]

LOL...I have seen this question many a times on many a forum. And somehow it always swings in the favour of the more-fanboy dominated series.

However, I personally believe that the USS Enterprise would kick some serious star destroyer butt. Superior shields, photon torpedoes and the ability to fight at FTL speeds (a big plus over the Star wars universe). Also they seem more manouverable.

And this is just the Enterprise D.

Bring the Enterprise-E, USS Voyager from "Endgame" or the USS Prometheus and we are talking a totally different ballgame.

Wouldn't the Enterprise E have the same stuff as D but only newer/better?

As for my self - I agree with Shabby - Planet Express :D

Damn....I wish they'd bring back that series.

[NG]

I don't understand why people always say that and it's usually only people who haven't really watched the show or seen the dominion war. Is 4 seasons of awesome Galactic-spanning war, drama, and a really dark show lame? It's probably the best of all the Trek after TOS.

DS9 was the best. I'm still disappointed that they didn't make that ds9 TV movie UPN was talking about - woulda made up for Enterprise. The creators of that show seriously have to get together and do something else. It appears they've all split off.

Even if it was just a comic book with Piller, Wolfe et al just serving as exec producers I'd be a subscriber.

[squall458]

the technologies involved in Star Wars doesnt even come to ST. those puny lasers are ancient history in ST timeline. PHASERS are in, with quantum phased torpedoes, ablative hull armor, regenerative shielding etc. geek rant over/ anyhoo the U.S.S. Defiant would own them all!

[firehawk12]

They both owe their existence to each other... so there really isn't much of a "vs". :)

[Spare-Flair]

They both owe their existence to each other... so there really isn't much of a "vs". :)

I don't understand how that is possible. Where's the causality here?

I doubt Star Trek inspired Star Wars at all. Star Trek was space-drama with powerful themes.

Lucas wanted Star Wars to be a futuristic western that was also a take on the old serials he grew up with (Buck Rogers type stuff) where you pick up a film in the middle and you can just watch and enjoy. It's basically in his words, a morality play in modern language because he was sad at the state of films in the 70s (dark, antiheroes, dramas, comedies, etc.) and he wanted to bring back the genre of myth where you have good and evil, you have myth and heroes, etc. to inspire the generation that missed out on it.

That's why ST is scifi and Wars is Fantasy.

You can make the point that the Star Trek movies were given the greenlight due to the success of Star Wars, but in actuality, Star Trek Phase II was already in production by then, a new TV series with the original actors. Wouldn't that have been something? Star Wars just made the studio decide that films were the better route and transformed what was made for Phase II into the first film.

[skeletor]

When it comes to weapons, the all mighty lightsaber is the most badass weapon in movie history bar none!!!!!!

Nothing in star trek can match the uberness of a light saber.

[CSAgent]

Q owns all... Why, he could be naked and still kick all their asses.

Enough said. /End of discussion. Lock this thread!

[skeletor]

http://www.electricferret.com/battle/pics/deathstar.gif http://www.electricferret.com/battle/pics/borgcube.gif

sphere>> cube

[porphyra]

http://www.electricferret.com/battle/pics/deathstar.gif http://www.electricferret.com/battle/pics/borgcube.gif

sphere>> cube

Yea sure :cheesygri

[luthair]

Yea sure :cheesygri

They might only get a couple shots before their shields adjust, but they'd be doozies!

[JEDI-MASTER]

The Force is strong with the Death Star :cheesygri

[gilboman]

the USS Defiant could take out the whole Empire fleet, couple of quantum torpedos and its byebye deathstar.

or we could get a romulan warbird that keeps cloaking/decloaking and snipe out the entire empire fleet as well.

Star Trek technology owns > Star Wars

the borg could just transport their drones over and the force will be assimilated :lol:

[niranjan]

I would love to see Borg vs Jedi Knight movie ...

Assemilated Jedi Knight ... :D :D

[Mr. Robo]

We've got alot of Trekkies here.

The Jedis would defeat the borg easily. Jedis would just slice them up with lightsabers, force push them, and use the force to throw huge objects on them.

[porphyra]

We've got alot of Trekkies here.

The Jedis would defeat the borg easily. Jedis would just slice them up with lightsabers, force push them, and use the force to throw huge objects on them.

Yea sure. All you need to do as a borg is assimilate 1 jedi.. Then you can tap into the force and adapt to the force. Then you are resistant to it and can manipulate the force.

Jedi will be toast.

[skeletor]

As far as I'm concerned I would watch Star wars IV-VI over any star trek movie any time. Nothing can touch ESB.

However, the greatest star trek was next generation, everthing else was inferior. I give credit where it's due.

[Yukikaze]

the last star trek movie ...i remember the enemy ship had three shield generator... 560 torpedo launchers and it was a vaulcan warship.. i don't think anyone can stand against that unless you ram another enterprise into it. :lol:

[Spare-Flair]

http://www.electricferret.com/battle/pics/deathstar.gif http://www.electricferret.com/battle/pics/borgcube.gif

sphere>> cube

http://voy.trekpulse.com/schematics/images/BorgSphere.jpg

Right.

[firehawk12]

I don't understand how that is possible. Where's the causality here?

I doubt Star Trek inspired Star Wars at all. Star Trek was space-drama with powerful themes.

Lucas wanted Star Wars to be a futuristic western that was also a take on the old serials he grew up with (Buck Rogers type stuff) where you pick up a film in the middle and you can just watch and enjoy. It's basically in his words, a morality play in modern language because he was sad at the state of films in the 70s (dark, antiheroes, dramas, comedies, etc.) and he wanted to bring back the genre of myth where you have good and evil, you have myth and heroes, etc. to inspire the generation that missed out on it.

That's why ST is scifi and Wars is Fantasy.

You can make the point that the Star Trek movies were given the greenlight due to the success of Star Wars, but in actuality, Star Trek Phase II was already in production by then, a new TV series with the original actors. Wouldn't that have been something? Star Wars just made the studio decide that films were the better route and transformed what was made for Phase II into the first film.

I just have a feeling that if it weren't for Star Trek, SciFi would have probably been considered dead by the 70s. Now, I obviously wasn't around back then, so it's only an assumption.

As for Phase 2... if it were actually made, there wouldn't have been a movie franchise, let alone TNG/DS9... and those other two. :lol:

[skeletor]

http://voy.trekpulse.com/schematics/images/BorgSphere.jpg

Right.

hmm.. got me there. But then again, I'm just a casual fan of both these series... Naruto is my speciality, I would rather watch that over any series.

[Headhunter]

Star Trek, for me. Can't mess with The Next Generation/Deep Space Nine.

[squall458]

next gen was the best series ever. the cast was simply amazing and the stories were so unique and fascinating. theres no way the death star could own ST, the Borg would demolish it no probs. its all about ASSIMILATION and you all know the line...resistance is futile

[skeletor]

I just finished watching Revenge of Sith. Star Trek will never have this kind of in your face kick ass action. Watching Obi-Wan own a huge robot weilding 4 lightsabers single handedly is freakin insane!! Much more badass than Picard telling his number 1 to take a number 2 ;).

[gilboman]

We've got alot of Trekkies here.

The Jedis would defeat the borg easily. Jedis would just slice them up with lightsabers, force push them, and use the force to throw huge objects on them.

nah..after one borg goes down, the adaptive shields on the drones would adapt to the light sabre and then the drone just injects the jedi with nanites :lol:

[Mr. Robo]

nah..after one borg goes down, the adaptive shields on the drones would adapt to the light sabre and then the drone just injects the jedi with nanites :lol:

I knew all you Trekkies would say that. I think once a Jedi realizes how assimilation is achieved, I seriously doubt that a Jedi would let the Borg near them. I don't think a Borg could adapt if a huge decompressor felt on him.

[ForthEarlingas]

How can soo many trek fans state that Trek ships are faster than SW ships?
In all the Trek shows, no trek ship was able to go across the galaxy without wormholes or alien intervention or take a long time to travel (cube transwarp) , whereas the Ships in SW can fly across a galaxy in pretty fast times too, less than a month.
For those who think the voyager ship especially endgame would kick ass, you have forgotten about the dinosaur ship that easily captured voyager. Remember how it just swallowed voyager, I doubt even with the endgame technology voyager would have defeated that ship. Don't forget the dinosaurs have hundreds of millions of years of evolution to develope advance technology over voyager, plus they had transwarp. The borg couldn't even asimilate them.

As for my choice, I choose the deathstar. The only ship that can destory a planet. It can destory any ships in its path too. One hit from its canon and its over regardless of the shields you have.

[d_jedi]

Yea sure :cheesygri
Except if the Borg analyise of the plans provided by Princess Leia (assimilated) and demonstrated a weakness in the battle station.
:D

[d_jedi]

Yea sure. All you need to do as a borg is assimilate 1 jedi.. Then you can tap into the force and adapt to the force. Then you are resistant to it and can manipulate the force.

Jedi will be toast.
That's not how the force works..

[d_jedi]

I'd take an Imperial class Star Destroyer, with a full complement of TIE ships, over the Enterprise (A/B/C/D/E, you choose) any day..
especially if you have DARTH VADER on the ship.. :D

[ChinpokoMon]

The Krenim temporal weapon ship beats all. With its temporal core online, it's practically invulnerable to any traditional weaponry since the ship exists outside of normal space-time. Using it's chronoton energy beam, a correctly calculated temporal incursion can erase anyone or anything from existence. :cheesygri

http://www.startrek.com/imageuploads/200303/voy-176-the-krenim-temporal-we2/320x240.jpg
http://www.neutralzone.de/database/Alien/Delta/KrenimTemporalWeaponShip10.jpg

[gilboman]

I knew all you Trekkies would say that. I think once a Jedi realizes how assimilation is achieved, I seriously doubt that a Jedi would let the Borg near them. I don't think a Borg could adapt if a huge decompressor felt on him.

nah, jedi's are helpless unless they know how to transport themselves, the borg will just transport behind a jedi knight, inject nanites and thats it. transporter technology ownz jedi's :lol:

[gilboman]

How can soo many trek fans state that Trek ships are faster than SW ships?
In all the Trek shows, no trek ship was able to go across the galaxy without wormholes or alien intervention or take a long time to travel (cube transwarp) , whereas the Ships in SW can fly across a galaxy in pretty fast times too, less than a month.
For those who think the voyager ship especially endgame would kick ass, you have forgotten about the dinosaur ship that easily captured voyager. Remember how it just swallowed voyager, I doubt even with the endgame technology voyager would have defeated that ship. Don't forget the dinosaurs have hundreds of millions of years of evolution to develope advance technology over voyager, plus they had transwarp. The borg couldn't even asimilate them.

As for my choice, I choose the deathstar. The only ship that can destory a planet. It can destory any ships in its path too. One hit from its canon and its over regardless of the shields you have.

didnt you watch when the delta flyer reached warp 10??? that is way faster than the SW ships :lol:

[Mr. Robo]

nah, jedi's are helpless unless they know how to transport themselves, the borg will just transport behind a jedi knight, inject nanites and thats it. transporter technology ownz jedi's :lol:

yeah, I find that kinda funny since I've never seen a borg in any episode or movie using that tactic. stop making things up. :lol:
Besides, Jedi can sense things around them. If someone did teleport behind him, a Jedi can react faster with force speed.

[gilboman]

yeah, I find that kinda funny since I've never seen a borg in any episode or movie using that tactic. stop making things up. :lol:
Besides, Jedi can sense things around them. If someone did teleport behind him, a Jedi can react faster with force speed.

they dont need to use that tatic, with their adaptive shields and are... they adapt to the light sabre and surround the jedi..bye bye jedi and welcome to the borg.

oh well, or Q can just wipe the force from existance

[luthair]

Man I feel like a dork for replying to this.

Couldn't a jedi simply use the force to just push borg away, or pull bits & pieces off them.

[cmge]

Man I feel like a dork for replying to this.

Couldn't a jedi simply use the force to just push borg away, or pull bits & pieces off them.
exactly... i mean what limits them to not doing it?

[ForthEarlingas]

didnt you watch when the delta flyer reached warp 10??? that is way faster than the SW ships :lol:

I also saw the enterprise D with riker as captain in the future(season finale TNG) reach warp 14 which was slower than the star wars ships, and slower than the delta flyer (warp 10). Would you like to explain? :lol:

[porphyra]

I also saw the enterprise D with riker as captain in the future(season finale TNG) reach warp 14 which was slower than the star wars ships, and slower than the delta flyer (warp 10). Would you like to explain? :lol:

The warp scale was rearranged somewhere in the middle of the TNG (timeline wise) previous to which the scale used was the "Cochrane scale" (It is based on a geometric progression, where the speed of a vessel (measured in multiples of c, the speed of light) is equal to the cube of the given warp factor. - Memory-Alpha) which went upto Warp factor 15.

Source (http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Warp_factor_chart_%28Cochrane_scale%29)

During TNG, this scale was dismantled and a new scale was established, the "TNG SCALE" (http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Warp_factor_chart_%28TNG_scale%29) at which the curve becomes asymptotic above Warp 9.

Hence every .9 after warp 9.9 had a big effect on the relative speed.

At warp 10, theoretically you reach the Eugene's limit, that is you reach infinite velocity and will therefore occupy every space in the universive at any given moment of time.

The voyager episode you refer to is "Threshold" where he reaches Warp 10, and is generally regarded as one of the worst episdoes which should never have been written.

[ForthEarlingas]

so after it was changed to a 10 scale from a 15 scale, it was changed back to the 15 scale in the future? thats just silly, B & B silly.

Anyways you know too much star trek information, I think you should read the article below, it will make you think.

http://www.macleans.ca/topstories/justice/article.jsp?content=20050530_106573_106573

should I crimestopper your a$$? :twisted: j/k

[gilboman]

so after it was changed to a 10 scale from a 15 scale, it was changed back to the 15 scale in the future? thats just silly, B & B silly.



you mean like star wars silly???

the force is useless against a barriage of quantum torpedos from orbit :lol:

[Evil Techie]

Dude..a Tactical Fusion Cube!..8 tactical cubes..whip the **** outta those..but definatly the Voyager in Endgame would take them all out, that was pwnage.. It was 1 of my favs, jus cause of the action an all the special effects..

hahaha you played too much armada 2

The voyager episode you refer to is "Threshold" where he reaches Warp 10, and is generally regarded as one of the worst episdoes which should never have been written.

agree, but the concept of warp 10 was cool
ensign kim should get spanked for doing such a bad job too in that episode


i think USS Enterprise D and newer can take on any star war ships with no problems
i mean, star wars fighter ships only shoot in a straight on direction
star trek ships can direct their phaser beams in all directions of the ship with their multi phasic arrays and multiple phaser strips
photon and quantum torpedoes would blow the heck out of the scrap metal cruisers in star wars too

the only time star wars might win is if the cruiser somehow got lucky and rams into enterprise D

[squall458]

if my understanding is correct, star wars ships use lasers, in which are historic technology given that lasers evolved to phasers in star trek. they too once used lasers on ST ships, so ST weapons >> SW, end game

[Headhunter]

if my understanding is correct, star wars ships use lasers, in which are historic technology given that lasers evolved to phasers in star trek. they too once used lasers on ST ships, so ST weapons >> SW, end game
This is apples and oranges...Star Trek ships can go back in time, soo...

[gaurav_fhs]

Eat my shorts Trekkies :lol:

http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Essays/FiveMinutes.html


Note1: Do not attempt to compare the empire to species that exist beyond time/space or "clouds" because they will essentially exist in both universes.

Note2: IMO, the Borg will be Starwars's greatest challenge.

[squall458]

This is apples and oranges...Star Trek ships can go back in time, soo...
well i was comparing lasers to phasers, and phasers are from lasers, so its not really that much apples and oranges.......but this thread is gonna go anywhere so thats my point :D

[Headhunter]

Eat my shorts Trekkies :lol:
Huh.

well i was comparing lasers to phasers, and phasers are from lasers, so its not really that much apples and oranges.......but this thread is gonna go anywhere so thats my point :D
What I meant, is that the universes are far too different to compare...based on the link a few posts up, a Star Trek starship's main weapons are about as powerful as a Star Wars handgun.

[Spare-Flair]

Huh.


What I meant, is that the universes are far too different to compare...based on the link a few posts up, a Star Trek starship's main weapons are about as powerful as a Star Wars handgun.

Indeed, while I absolutely despise Ep I-III as pure garbage and am arguably a Trekkie...

Star Wars simply trumps Star Trek...because even if you are using lasers in Star Wars, the power output of their lasers is on a ridiculously greater scale than those of the phasers in Star Trek. Star Wars technology, while supposedly less advanced... is just that much much much ridculously more massive in scale both in physical size and power.

[webdoctors]

i got with star wars, cause the Star Destroyer was just massive, 17km+ in size plus a 10,000 man crew, it could easily decimate anything, its full complement of TIE fighters would ensure that the Enterprise would not leave the battle in 1 piece.

[ryanj]

What I meant, is that the universes are far too different to compare...based on the link a few posts up, a Star Trek starship's main weapons are about as powerful as a Star Wars handgun.

yeah i got to agree with this. Trek and Wars are completely different, no point comparing. the only similarity is that they both involve space. SW is completely fictional, ST on the otherhand shows how humans evolve and grow in the next hundred or so years. its like comparing LOTR to ST.

but if we must compare, any Enterprise will kickass out of any SW ship. simply because SW is in the past and ST is in the future. and as we all know future tech > past tech. ;) :lol:

[ill_mango]

I'm gonna go ahead and throw my 2 cents into the mix:

Picard would have to use the Force to get some

That is all.

[Montague]

I'm gonna go ahead and throw my 2 cents into the mix:

Picard would have to use the Force to get some

That is all.
BUT Star Trek has more hotter babes. :cheesygri

This thread is like arguing who is stronger.

Mighty Mouse or Superman. ;)

[Nightgod]

Star Trek will win for sure, Down with the Dark side !!!!

[jollyeskimo]

Debating specs and numbers is pretty much futile since the force and the Q continum both posess powers that can negate pretty much anything defined by them.

So it's more a matter of Q vs the force, and the argument can easily go both ways since the extent of their power is limited to your imagination, although it does seem that the Q contiunum shows a lot less restraint then force users.

[Mr. Robo]

BUT Star Trek has more hotter babes. :cheesygri



We've just been expose to Star Trek more than Star Wars.
Let's see if there are any babes in the Star Wars tv series coming out.

Who does better at the box office?
Even Star Trek made more movies than Star Wars, but still can't come close to the totals that Star Wars has pulled in.

[porphyra]

We've just been expose to Star Trek more than Star Wars.
Let's see if there are any babes in the Star Wars tv series coming out.

Who does better at the box office?
Even Star Trek made more movies than Star Wars, but still can't come close to the totals that Star Wars has pulled in.

Using your very argument of exposure, there is a lot more star trek in terms of TV, and hence the desire to satiate the Trek hunger is easily fulfilled. However, Star Wars has but 6 movies, and hence the huge draw. Also its a saga, whereas each Trek movie stood on its own. Trek has over 700 hours while Star Wars barely clocks in at 18 hours (that is being generous at 3 hours x 6 movies).

[d_jedi]

but if we must compare, any Enterprise will kickass out of any SW ship. simply because SW is in the past and ST is in the future. and as we all know future tech > past tech. ;) :lol:
Not the sun crusher.. designed to withstand the impact of a star exploding (which it causes)..

'NUFF SAID.

[gilboman]

Not the sun crusher.. designed to withstand the impact of a star exploding (which it causes)..

'NUFF SAID.

you are not uptodate with st tech..they can withstand a exploding sun no problem but also travel directly inside a star as well. ;)

lets see Star wars move moons around with tractor beams :cheesygri

[porphyra]

you are not uptodate with st tech..they can withstand a exploding sun no problem but also travel directly inside a star as well. ;)

lets see Star wars move moons around with tractor beams :cheesygri

I wanted to type that. But then I realised how futile the discussion will be/has been. I have seen oh so many Star Trek v/s Star Wars threads, and not surprisingly they are all the same.

"Arguing on the internet is like participating in the special olympics....
Even if you win, you are still ********"

[Spare-Flair]

you are not uptodate with st tech..they can withstand a exploding sun no problem but also travel directly inside a star as well. ;)

lets see Star wars move moons around with tractor beams :cheesygri

Metaphasic shields can only get a starship through the outer corona of a star, you still can't go through it. And old technology obviously trumps new technology in Trek because they keep stumbling on ancient technologies that whoop their asses.

Like the Dyson's Sphere if you want another star example.

[WiZZLa]

Apparently both sides of fans will die alone. :confused:

[ForthEarlingas]

Apparently both sides of fans will die alone. :confused:

alone? or in jail?

http://www.macleans.ca/topstories/justice/article.jsp?content=20050530_106573_106573

[DennyD]

Everything past TNG was pretty boring and repetitive, save the occasional episode of Voyager. They're always about the borg, or time travel or whatever was done a few weeks earlier. They had a universe to work with and they kept coming up with the same old shlop. The movies with TNG were like extended tv episodes that were shown at the theatre.

Star Wars is built upon the story of Anakin Skywalker and his decent to evil... the rest is just sub-story... Trek is about settling the latest trade dispute or peace treaty, all the while trying to figure out how to get the alien ship off thier a$$ and get the transporters online.

Star Wars has so much more story and depth. Trek is so thin and transparent; every episode ends all and tidy. The only event in Trek that really compares is the Spock death scene in TWOK, but that's TOS which blows post-TNG Trek outta the water.

Star Wars owns Trek in just about every way. It's much more than about the two technologies.

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