Official Playstation 3 Thread

[sfu_lifer]

it's in the annual report. i'll find the link

Thanks. I dont like spreading misinformation :)

[marcopolo85]

Looks like Lost PLanet is comming to ps3. Didnt like the game much, would rather dead rising come to ps3. Oh well....

Oh and Street Fighter 4 is commen no mention of which platform.

[Usuyami]

Jack Tretton, President of Sony Computer Entertainment America has now confirmed that the new 40GB PlayStation 3 will make it's way to the U.S., releasing on November 2 for a retail price of USD 400.

http://www.psu.com/40GB-PS3-confirmed-for-US-release-this-November-News--a0001565-p0.php

[shannn]

Wow, I'm amazed that Sony is actually making the US price the same as the CAN price...looks like they are realizing the strength of our dollar...hopefully pricing on games will follow


PRESS RELEASE: New 40GB Model to be Available in North America on November 2nd for $399; Effective Immediately, 80GB PS3 to be Priced at $499

FOSTER CITY, Calif., Oct. 18 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Sony Computer
Entertainment America Inc. (SCEA) today announced plans to introduce a new40GB model of its PLAYSTATION(R)3 (PS3(TM)) computer entertainment system. Beginning November 2nd, to further enhance the HD entertainment experience, the new 40GB PS3 model will come bundled with the blockbuster movie Spider-Man(TM) 3 Blu-ray Disc(TM) (BD) from Sony Pictures Home Entertainment, and will be available in North America for a suggested retail price of $399 (USD/CND). The company also announced that effective immediately, the current 80GB PS3 model will be available in North America for $499 (USD/CND), $100 below the original launch price.

"We're pleased to offer the consumer a lower price point without sacrificing the core technology components that make PS3 the most advancedhigh-definition entertainment system available. Every PS3 comes with aBlu-ray drive, HDMI output, an integrated Wi-Fi connection, Cell Broadband Engine and a built-in hard-drive," said Jack Tretton, President and CEO,SCEA. "This holiday season we'll be able to offer attractive retail pricing with a broad portfolio of outstanding games including Ratchet & Clank(R)Future: Tools of Destruction(TM), THE Eye of JUDGMENT(TM), Uncharted: Drake’s Fortune(TM), Heavenly Sword(TM), Call of Duty(R) 4: Modern Warfare, Assassin's Creed(TM), Haze(TM) and RockBand(TM)."

The new 40GB PS3 will no longer play PlayStation(R)2 titles, reflecting the availability of a more extensive line-up of PS3 specific titles. Consumers looking for backwards compatibility can take advantage of the limited PlayStation 2 backwards compatibility of the 80GB PS3. PLAYSTATION(R)3 40GB Specification

[Yesdear]

That good news. I am in the market for a 60 or 80gb PS3 and it looks like the price will be even better on RFD come launch. BTW, is there a list of supported PS2 games for the 80GB PS3? I only have two PS2 games (RE4 & FF12).


Nevermind, I found the site:

http://www.us.playstation.com/Support/CompatibleStatus

[CFRTim]

Let's see how this price drop will move the consoles now. Either way, I would expect a higher sale number than usual because of XMAS. But now the price is on par with the 360, so price will not be an issue.

[bmaz]

Effective immediately eh, Sonystyle.ca hasn't been updated as of yet.
No mention of price reductions for the 60 GB, no way can it be sold for more than $450.

[jeffyjaixx]

It also seems the 40GB SKU will be bundled with the Spider-man 3 blu-ray disc.

[evozero]

any hope of new ps3 games being $60? I hope a price reduction on new games goes into effect by time Ratchet & Clank comes out.

nonetheless, thumbs up to sony for recognizing the dollar parity. now if we could get auto manufacturers to follow suit... :lol:

[imoo2u]

PS3 80g HD for $499. Just confirmed on the phone and available in ltd quantity at TRU nearby. Definitely going there for one before it runs out of stock. :D

[BD006]

any hope of new ps3 games being $60? I hope a price reduction on new games goes into effect by time Ratchet & Clank comes out.

I said something similar in the Hot Deals forum, but it I recall correctly, prices on newly released games seem to have been on par with the US. I bought NBA 2K8 for $58 from Wal-Mart on release day, which is roughly the same price (~US$60) in the US.

[bmaz]

PS3 80g HD for $499. Just confirmed on the phone and available in ltd quantity at TRU nearby. Definitely going there for one before it runs out of stock. :D
I hope you know that this will be the everyday price for the 80 GB PS3 from now on, stocks will be replenish once they run.
The 60 GB version is the one going to be EOL, and that one is currently $480 at Futureshop only 10 left

[CFRTim]

PS3 80g HD for $499. Just confirmed on the phone and available in ltd quantity at TRU nearby. Definitely going there for one before it runs out of stock. :D

PS3 out of stock :lol: :lol: :lol: that's too funny

[PCDawg]

PS3 out of stock :lol: :lol: :lol: that's too funny

Holiday season coming up. Either the 20GB or 80GB versions will be hot sellers especially with the price drop.

[bmaz]

Holiday season coming up. Either the 20GB or 80GB versions will be hot sellers especially with the price drop.
20 GB PS3? that has been extinct for quite some time now.

[jeffyjaixx]

Japan is getting a free taste of Gran Turismo 5 Prologue tomorrow. A demo version of Prologue will be available on the Japanese PSN until November 11th. (The full version of Prologue will retail for about $43.) Included in the demo are seven playable cars:

* Lexus IS-F
* Nissan GT-R
* Mazda Atenza
* Subaru Impreza WRX STI
* Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X GSR
* Daihatsu OFC-1
* BMW 135i Coupe

Also, in coordination with the Tokyo Motor Show, new cars will be unveiled in the game from October 23rd to the 25th. However, there will only be one track featured in the demo: Suzuka. No online play will be included with the demo, but single player will have you competing against 15 other racers, making for a less solitary experience than last year's Gran Turismo HD.

http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2007/10/18/full-details-on-tomorrows-free-gran-turismo-5-prologue-demo/

BMW 135i! :D

[CFRTim]

Holiday season coming up. Either the 20GB or 80GB versions will be hot sellers especially with the price drop.

You do know that the 20gb ps3 has been discontinued a few mths back.The fully BC compatible 60gb PS3 is being phased out as well (still lots of stock left). I wonder what the price for those ones is now anyway. But yeah sure, with the recent price-drops and holiday season coming the 80GB should sell OK; however “out of stock” like one of the previous poster mentioned, it’s a long shot that SCE can only dream of. Plus there is no need to rush, these will be the new prices from now on, they’ll only go down some more from here on.

[jeffyjaixx]

You do know that the 20gb ps3 has been discontinued a few mths back.The fully BC compatible 60gb PS3 is being phased out as well (still lots of stock left). I wonder what the price for those ones is now anyway. But yeah sure, with the recent price-drops and holiday season coming the 80GB should sell OK; however “out of stock” like one of the previous poster mentioned, it’s a long shot that SCE can only dream of. Plus there is no need to rush, these will be the new prices from now on, they’ll only go down some more from here on.

The 60GB is going on sale tomorrow at BB for $450. I believe it's also eligible for the 5 free blu-ray movies?

[Canucks07]

I need your guys' opinion on the dillema I'm currently in....

I managed to get a PS3 from Best Buy a while ago (at Wal Mart's Anniversary price, which was the 80GB Console + a FREE Blu Ray Remote for $549.)

Now, of course I'm going to price match this new price ($499). However, FS is also including the Enchanted Arms with the 80GB right now. So, what I'm asking is that if you were me, would you rather have this remote or return it & buy it from FS for the free game? I don't think they will match FS when they've already matched Wal Mart & are also giving me $40 back!!

So, please let me know what you would do if you had to decide...

By the way, the game's got a "passible" rating & I don't think I'd really be into it anyway...but it'd be nice to know everybody's opinion.

Thanks a bunch.

[jeffyjaixx]

I need your guys' opinion on the dillema I'm currently in....

I managed to get a PS3 from Best Buy a while ago (at Wal Mart's Anniversary price, which was the 80GB Console + a FREE Blu Ray Remote for $549.)

Now, of course I'm going to price match this new price ($499). However, FS is also including the Enchanted Arms with the 80GB right now. So, what I'm asking is that if you were me, would you rather have this remote or return it & buy it from FS for the free game? I don't think they will match FS when they've already matched Wal Mart & are also giving me $40 back!!

So, please let me know what you would do if you had to decide...

By the way, the game's got a "passible" rating & I don't think I'd really be into it anyway...but it'd be nice to know everybody's opinion.

Thanks a bunch.

I would keep the remote. You can always rent the game.

[bmaz]

...The fully BC compatible 60gb PS3 is being phased out as well (still lots of stock left)...
Futureshop is sold out online of this model, and no stores that are close by have it in stock, so their isn't lots of stock available.
The 60GB is going on sale tomorrow at BB for $450. I believe it's also eligible for the 5 free blu-ray movies?
All PS3s purchased during the eligible period are eligible, including the unavailable 40 GB.

[CFRTim]

Futureshop is sold out online of this model, and no stores that are close by have it in stock, so their isn't lots of stock available.


I said that since I see them all over around here in Ajax (Zellers, RCSS, Costco); but yeah you might me right SONY stoped making them some time in June, so inventory should be low by now on this model

[Mgz]

the PS2 is only 80$ (with the gift card deal) or 90$ on sale usually, so PS3 40 GB + PS2 is approximately equal the price of the 80GB but you get 100% PS2 compability for a bit lesser HDD and some random USB ports (srsly an USB hub is only 5 bucks or so)

[Canadianpsycho]

I need your guys' opinion on the dillema I'm currently in....

I managed to get a PS3 from Best Buy a while ago (at Wal Mart's Anniversary price, which was the 80GB Console + a FREE Blu Ray Remote for $549.)

Now, of course I'm going to price match this new price ($499). However, FS is also including the Enchanted Arms with the 80GB right now. So, what I'm asking is that if you were me, would you rather have this remote or return it & buy it from FS for the free game? I don't think they will match FS when they've already matched Wal Mart & are also giving me $40 back!!

So, please let me know what you would do if you had to decide...

By the way, the game's got a "passible" rating & I don't think I'd really be into it anyway...but it'd be nice to know everybody's opinion.

Thanks a bunch.

Enchanted Arms is nothing special... Played it for the 1000 gamerscore on my 360. Mediocre at best. Not bad, but nothing that stands out about it either.

[mitsui]

i know there r sources saying 40GB ps3 will be $399.99 USD, but i doubt it
EB games stating 20GB ps3 for $449.99

http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product_id=020071

i dont' think the 40GB will retail less than 20GB
lol

[bumboclott]

Can someone please tell me what cables come with the PS3 (80GB).
I'm trying to find out what I'll need to run audio into my computer.

I just got a computer monitor with HDMI on it, but it has no speakers :(

Thanks!

[PCDawg]

You do know that the 20gb ps3 has been discontinued a few mths back.The fully BC compatible 60gb PS3 is being phased out as well (still lots of stock left). .....

My bad!! I mean the 40GB.

i know there r sources saying 40GB ps3 will be $399.99 USD, but i doubt it
EB games stating 20GB ps3 for $449.99

http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product_id=020071

i dont' think the 40GB will retail less than 20GB
lol

Sony has replaced the lower end 20GB with the 40gb and the 60GB with the now 80GB. So, yes the new 40GB package will be cheaper.

Can someone please tell me what cables come with the PS3 (80GB).
I'm trying to find out what I'll need to run audio into my computer.

I just got a computer monitor with HDMI on it, but it has no speakers :(

Thanks!

They only include basic A/V cables. (Yellow, red and white)

Like what others has said, the price drops for the systems are good, but hopefully the systems and games will follow suit.

[jeffyjaixx]

i know there r sources saying 40GB ps3 will be $399.99 USD, but i doubt it
EB games stating 20GB ps3 for $449.99

http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product_id=020071

i dont' think the 40GB will retail less than 20GB
lol

The 40GB is cheaper to manufacture than the 20GB because there is complete removal of the PS2 hardware. So yes, it will retail as $399. It also comes with Spiderman 3 blu-ray movie.

[bmaz]

i know there r sources saying 40GB ps3 will be $399.99 USD, but i doubt it
EB games stating 20GB ps3 for $449.99

http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product_id=020071

i dont' think the 40GB will retail less than 20GB
lol
I love it when people assume stuff, without knowing all the facts.

[Neovingian]

On another note, does anyone know if these newly reduced PS3's will also be eligible for the 5 free blue ray movie offer?

here's the link:

http://bluraysavings.com/

[bmaz]

On another note, does anyone know if these newly reduced PS3's will also be eligible for the 5 free blue ray movie offer? I can't find the link anymore.
:arrowl: Go back one page.

[amicus]

Can someone please tell me what cables come with the PS3 (80GB).
I'm trying to find out what I'll need to run audio into my computer.

I just got a computer monitor with HDMI on it, but it has no speakers :(

Thanks!

i use optical out to my logitech z-5500s. they have optical in.

[bmaz]

On another note, does anyone know if these newly reduced PS3's will also be eligible for the 5 free blue ray movie offer?

here's the link:

http://bluraysavings.com/

Actually that's the American link.
Here's the Canadian link which can actually be found on the top of that page you linked -> http://bluraysavings.com/newindex_ca.html

[Neovingian]

Actually that's the American link.
Here's the Canadian link which can actually be found on the top of that page you linked -> http://bluraysavings.com/newindex_ca.html

Bmaz...Yeah thats what I meant, thanks for pointing that out.

The selection of movies isn't that great this time around. But I guess its free so we shouldn't complain.

Here's the link to the "Canadian" printable Form:

http://bluraysavings.com/bluraysavings_canada.pdf

[ashs]

i wish i had a receipt for mine so i can get the free blu rays :-S

[Canucks07]

i wish i had a receipt for mine so i can get the free blu rays :-S

Actually...a question about that...Are you supposed to send the original receipt, or just a copy of it?!

It says "Receipt from your eligible Blu-ray player purchase imprinted with store name and dated between 10/1/07 through 1/31/08 with purchase price circled."

Thx in advance.

[bmaz]

Most people actually prefer this round of choices overall. Largely due to POTC1 and The Prestige.
No mention of Swordfish? Think Halle Berry in HD.

[bumboclott]

They only include basic A/V cables. (Yellow, red and white)



Cool, so all I'll need is an RCA to 3.5mm and I'll plug that into my line-in on my sound card.

[Arcum]

Cool, so all I'll need is an RCA to 3.5mm and I'll plug that into my line-in on my sound card.

Yes you'll need a 2 RCA to 3.5 mm and put that in line-in.

[nfnx]

you guys gotta check out the killzone 2 online demos it looks better than COD4 imho


JUST WOW to the lightning

[theprodigy]

Do any of you guys hear a slight ticking noise coming from the ps3 fan when you first start it up? It only lasts for about 2 seconds...Once the fan gets up to speed, it disappears.

[rahzel]

the GT5: P demo is up on the JPN store!!!

[sfu_lifer]

the GT5: P demo is up on the JPN store!!!

How much and can we gameshare?

[ATLien69]

whoop whoop! GT5 is like the MOST anticipated game ever for me. :) D/L'ing now! :)


the GT5: P demo is up on the JPN store!!!

[ATLien69]

It's just the demo, so it's free...the real thing ain't coming for another month or so I think (jap only for now)...

How much and can we gameshare?

[sfu_lifer]

It's just the demo, so it's free...the real thing ain't coming for another month or so I think (jap only for now)...

Thanks. I'm downloading it then on my faux Japanese acccount.

[jeffyjaixx]

Sweet. Downloading :D.

[ATLien69]

I have a feeling that when the full version comes out on PSN, it won't be sharable....

BONUS! Just realized that the demo has a Subaru Imperza WRX in it! :cheesygri

Thanks. I'm downloading it then on my faux Japanese acccount.

[play_b3yond]

I guess I'll have to wait until boxing day 2008 to get a ps3 for 299 ... and hopefully some good games will be out for ps3 (besides mgs 4)

[rahzel]

loved it. my main gripe is the aliasing. i think they're targeting 1080p so there doesn't seem to be any AA (at 1080i/p anyway, haven't tried 720p yet), hopefully the full game will have at least 2xAA. GT:HD used 2xAA at 720p and no AA at 1080i/p. with that said, the aliasing isn't too bad. also, rear/side mirror reflections are average and the game seems a little dark (my set is calibrated).

AI seems to be better. cockpit view looks great but the animation for the wheel seems to lack rotation on bigger turns.

overall, the demo was awesome.
btw, how do you unlock the other cars?

[ATLien69]

YES! Just finished playing it for an hour...just awesome...

also wondering how the heck to unlock cars...especailly the draped one..hehe..> I think thats the WRX Sti. :) Maybe it says coming soon b/c they haven't actually "offically" unvielved the new 2008 Subaru Impreza WRX STI edition yet in the real world...

I placed 1st with all the 4 cars available and still nothing....



overall, the demo was awesome.
btw, how do you unlock the other cars?

[PCDawg]

How do u creat a japanese account to download gt5?

Ahh...firgured it out. Just didnt understand the japanese LOL

[evozero]

YES! Just finished playing it for an hour...just awesome...

also wondering how the heck to unlock cars...especailly the draped one..hehe..> I think thats the WRX Sti. :) Maybe it says coming soon b/c they haven't actually "offically" unvielved the new 2008 Subaru Impreza WRX STI edition yet in the real world...


word is that the draped car (wrx sti) will be available to coincide with its unveiling at the tokyo auto show next week.

[sfu_lifer]

Is it just the one track? This game took forever to install.
I seem to suck at this game but at least it has logitech force feedback wheel support based on the credits (I'm too lazy to unpack my MOMO to try it out).

My beefs are the crowd, aliasing and trackside trees. At least it has a cockpit view unlike low-budget Forza on the 360. The car models here kick Forza's butt all over the place. I seem to have been wow'ed more by Motorstorm than by this. I wish they'd just go for 720p with more of everything than going for 1080p and losing out on things like AA etc just so you can have that 1080p bullet point.

[ashs]

anyone use their ps3 for the web? i got a wireless keyboard and mouse and its awesome with the ps3 and a 50 inh tv :-)

[ATLien69]

That is just awesome! :D Can't wait for it!

But how do you unlock the other two cars??? I placed 1st with the 4 available cars and still nothing...

word is that the draped car (wrx sti) will be available to coincide with its unveiling at the tokyo auto show next week.

[nfnx]

I guess I'll have to wait until boxing day 2008 to get a ps3 for 299 ... and hopefully some good games will be out for ps3 (besides mgs 4)

there are actually a ton of games comming out soon. actually so much that you wont even be able to buy them all

assasins creed
rockband
killzone2
cod4
mgs
mgonline
gt5
Ratchet and C

of those 8, 5 are prob must buys for the average gamer

[maebach]

there are actually a ton of games comming out soon. actually so much that you wont even be able to buy them all

assasins creed
rockband
killzone2
cod4
mgs
mgonline
gt5
Ratchet and C

of those 8, 5 are prob must buys for the average gamer

forgot uncharted:drakes fortune.

[bmaz]

That is just awesome! :D Can't wait for it!

But how do you unlock the other two cars??? I placed 1st with the 4 available cars and still nothing...
I could be wrong but that might have to do with the autoshow as well.
In fact I believe the veiled car isn't the WRX but the Nissan GTR (http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=122715).
If I had to guess the other 2 unlockable cars would then be the WRX and the Evo X. ( I haven't played the game so I don't know if these cars are available yet).
You would have to wait until the 24th - 25th for them to be officially unveiled.

[joshmxpx]

there are actually a ton of games comming out soon. actually so much that you wont even be able to buy them all

assasins creed
rockband
killzone2
cod4
mgs
mgonline
gt5
Ratchet and C

of those 8, 5 are prob must buys for the average gamer

you forgot gh3, and army of two

[syn3sto]

there are actually a ton of games comming out soon. actually so much that you wont even be able to buy them all

assasins creed
rockband
killzone2
cod4
mgs
mgonline
gt5
Ratchet and C

of those 8, 5 are prob must buys for the average gamer

these four for me. i dont expect too much from kz2 anyway.
but gt5+mgs4 ftw

[jeeva86]

Is it true that Walmart has PS3 games at US prices? If so, how much are they?

[edcwhite]

I just picked up my PS3 80GB from Loblaws for $499 flat thanks to their tax free event this weekend.

[CFRTim]

Is there any damage in the GT5 demo? How are the controls?

[Yesdear]

I just picked up my PS3 80GB from Loblaws for $499 flat thanks to their tax free event this weekend.

Wow, good stuff. I forgot they sell games etc.

[jeffyjaixx]

Is there any damage in the GT5 demo? How are the controls?

No damage in the GT5: P demo but there will be in the official GT5:P. The controls are great for me. Love the in-dash view.

Some shots.

Menu screen:

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/7236/dscf3538zs7.jpg

In-game:

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/8115/dscf3545ae1.jpg

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/841/dscf3546um6.jpg

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/9881/dscf3542kt7.jpg

Replay:

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/7051/dscf3550hl0.jpg

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/579/dscf3562rk1.jpg

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/6300/dscf3586hd5.jpg

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/97/dscf3597wd7.jpg

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/3682/dscf3613eh8.jpg

Attract mode:

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/7462/dscf3638qb6.jpg

[bumboclott]

oh my god... are there any 24 hour Loblaws in the GTA?!

I just picked up my PS3 80GB from Loblaws for $499 flat thanks to their tax free event this weekend.

[fatpig]

I just picked up my PS3 80GB from Loblaws for $499 flat thanks to their tax free event this weekend.

Do they have any 60GB left?

[nfnx]

you forgot gh3, and army of two

whats gh??

lol i cant believe i forgot army of two, besides gt5 thats my most anticipated game


syn3sto whats up with kz 2? what are your opinions??


and damn those gt5 screens look amazing. i have no time to see the jap version but ill wait for the game to be released.

[rahzel]

nice shots jeffyjaixx. curious... are you playing at 720p, 1080i or 1080p? your screen caps seem to show less jaggies than what i'm seeing. someone on AVSForum is suggesting that it looks better/worse on some HDTV's.

i'm still wondering how you unlock the other cars... i even placed first with all 4 available vehicles on the Professional difficulty.

[Musiq Soulchild]

I'm thinking of buying a ps3 at the moment, a 60gb or an 80gb. I have someone offering me a used 60gb for $375, it also comes with receipt from march (I won't be able to send the receipt in to get the 5 free blu rays :(). Or should i just get the 80gb package with motorstorm and lair for $570 tacs in.

The deciding factor for me isn't so much that the 80gb doesn't have the emotion chip or w.e its called since i won't be playing ps2 games anyway.

The positives with getting the 80gb from FS is that i'll have 2 games and i'll get 5 blu rays, and ofcourse it will be brand new unlike the other one. for $570. With the 60gb, its used and it just comes with the normal things.

At the end of the day it comes down to the 2 games and 5 blu rays being worth the $190? Oh and take inconsideration that the 60gb used. I'm not to sure at the moment which one to go with.

What do you guys think?

[PCDawg]

I'm thinking of buying a ps3 at the moment, a 60gb or an 80gb. I have someone offering me a used 60gb for $375, it also comes with receipt from march (I won't be able to send the receipt in to get the 5 free blu rays :(). Or should i just get the 80gb package with motorstorm and lair for $570 tacs in.

The deciding factor for me isn't so much that the 80gb doesn't have the emotion chip or w.e its called since i won't be playing ps2 games anyway.

The positives with getting the 80gb from FS is that i'll have 2 games and i'll get 5 blu rays, and ofcourse it will be brand new unlike the other one. for $570. With the 60gb, its used and it just comes with the normal things.

At the end of the day it comes down to the 2 games and 5 blu rays being worth the $190? Oh and take inconsideration that the 60gb used. I'm not to sure at the moment which one to go with.

What do you guys think?

I would say the 60GB is the better deal.

The blu-ray selection isnt the greatest. You can grab blu-ray movies new for about $15 US on ebay, and better titles as well.

Though you dont have any PS2 games now, but there's plenty of really good PS2 games that are out that looks amazing if you have a HDTV as the graphics get upscaled and cheap as well.

You can grab used PS3 games on this forum here from $35-$50.

The harddirve is also easy to upgrade, as I changed mine to a 160GB in less than 5 mins. Not including the time to back up and restore the data though :)

[ashs]

id get the 60 gig version for teh emotion engine, if the hard drive size is a concern u can always upgrade the hard drive yourself (its cheaper too). 375$ is an amazing price for the 60 gig version.

[jeffyjaixx]

nice shots jeffyjaixx. curious... are you playing at 720p, 1080i or 1080p? your screen caps seem to show less jaggies than what i'm seeing. someone on AVSForum is suggesting that it looks better/worse on some HDTV's.

i'm still wondering how you unlock the other cars... i even placed first with all 4 available vehicles on the Professional difficulty.

I'm playing @ 1080P. You also see more jaggies with the naked eye than in pictures because the camera can sometimes reduce the jaggies.

[Musiq Soulchild]

id get the 60 gig version for teh emotion engine, if the hard drive size is a concern u can always upgrade the hard drive yourself (its cheaper too). 375$ is an amazing price for the 60 gig version.

True, but i just found out that the superstore is having a no tax sale tomorrow. So now its 80gb for $499.

[ATLien69]

Hmm I'm 99% sure that veiled car is the WRX STI b/c of the contour...you can even see the hood scoop at the front! :) And it's a wagon, which I think is what the STI will only come in this year (it'll be a first for a STI wagon, atleast here in NA)....but I could be wrong.

I could be wrong but that might have to do with the autoshow as well.
In fact I believe the veiled car isn't the WRX but the Nissan GTR (http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=122715).
If I had to guess the other 2 unlockable cars would then be the WRX and the Evo X. ( I haven't played the game so I don't know if these cars are available yet).
You would have to wait until the 24th - 25th for them to be officially unveiled.

[GunnerX]

I'm playing the game at 1080P also and there's lots of jaggies. So what do people think about the GTV demo? Best PS3 game ever? Best graphics of all consoles? I'm quite curious. :)

[jeffyjaixx]

I'm playing the game at 1080P also and there's lots of jaggies. So what do people think about the GTV demo? Best PS3 game ever? Best graphics of all consoles? I'm quite curious. :)

Best car models and lighting in any racer game ever. My opinion. :)

[rahzel]

apparently, GT5 uses 2xAA at 1080i/p (really being rendered at 1280x1080p) and at 720p, it uses 4xAA. so they bumped up the AA from GT:HD at both 720p and "1080p" (GT:HD was 2xAA and 0xAA). and the reason you're seeing "aliasing" is a problem with the AA and HDR being implemented at the same time. so hopefully it gets sorted out. that explains why i didn't really see aliasing per se, but just flickering objects. if you actually look at the edges, you can tell there is some AA.

i agree with jeffyjaixx, i think GT5 has the best car models and great lighting, but environments are average. the demo didn't impress me as much as the videos i've seen but the only thing that bugs me is what i mentioned above and may be fixed for release. remember, this is essentially just a demo of a demo. PGR4 and MotorStorm probably have the best environments. also keep in mind that we have yet to see any city tracks in GT5. GT has always modeled their tracks from real tracks so you can't really make them look all that nice. city tracks usually look better because of the buildings and you don't just see grass, trees or the stands.

[GunnerX]

Very interesting about the "Best Lighting" comment. I have some questions regarding lighting. The demo is during the daytime right? How come everything becomes really really dark when the sun is in front of you? The most annoying part is that sharp right turn. All the tires are just black.

http://www.gunnerx.com/pics/vidgames/gtv_2.jpg

I don't recall real life to be this dark when I drive and the sun is out. It's like daylight when driving in one direction and turns to night going in the other.

http://www.gunnerx.com/pics/vidgames/gtv_3.jpg

I guess I'm gonna be called various names for this comment. Oh well. I should add "Best game ever!" just in case. :)

[CFRTim]

Very interesting about the "Best Lighting" comment. I have some questions regarding lighting. The demo is during the daytime right? How come everything becomes really really dark when the sun is in front of you? The most annoying part is that sharp right turn. All the tires are just black.

I don't recall real life to be this dark when I drive and the sun is out. It's like daylight when driving in one direction and turns to night going in the other.

I guess I'm gonna be called various names for this comment. Oh well. I should add "Best game ever!" just in case. :)

:lol: :lol: Yeah, that's weird, why so dark? Well I guess this is a demo of a demo of a game, so maybe they'll work out the kinks by the final release.

[maebach]

whats gh??


guitar hero

[rahzel]

wtf? its dark, but not THAT dark... look at jeffyjaixx' shots a page back... my set is calibrated and what jeffyjaixx posted is more of what i'm seeing. GunnerX's shots look like the brightness is turned all the way down.

as for the lighting, i think the lighting is great on the car models and good for everything else. the lighting is what makes the car models look so real.

[Musiq Soulchild]

ps3 80gb bundle for 499

OR

ps3 60gb used for $375?

[ashs]

ps3 80gb bundle for 499

OR

ps3 60gb used for $375?



is 20 gb of space - emotion engine worth 124$? i doubt it. and the ps3's are not xbox 360's in that their failure rate is very low.

[jeffyjaixx]

Very interesting about the "Best Lighting" comment. I have some questions regarding lighting. The demo is during the daytime right? How come everything becomes really really dark when the sun is in front of you? The most annoying part is that sharp right turn. All the tires are just black.
*snip*

I don't recall real life to be this dark when I drive and the sun is out. It's like daylight when driving in one direction and turns to night going in the other.

*snip*

I guess I'm gonna be called various names for this comment. Oh well. I should add "Best game ever!" just in case. :)

Yours look way too dark. This is what mine looks like.

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/3725/dscf3659ui5.jpg


And it's supposed to look like that in real life. For example...

You get the idea. :)

http://www.findrentals.com/php/12564/FilteredSunView_medres.jpg

http://emiliewood.com/photos/november2005/29-nov-05-view-office.jpg

http://thomashawk.com/hello/209/1017/480/Staring%20at%20the%20Sun.jpg

[evozero]

ps3 80gb bundle for 499

OR

ps3 60gb used for $375?

if the 60gb is known to be in very good condition go for that.

[GunnerX]

Yours look way too dark. This is what mine looks like.

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/3725/dscf3659ui5.jpg


And it's supposed to look like that in real life. For example...


Look at the sky in that picture. Now compare it to the sky in your "sample" pictures. You can't even see the back of the car, it's all BLACK. Is that how it is in real life when you're driving around? You can't see the back of people's cars if the sun is in front of you? And in your picture, you have already turned. Try taking a picture before the turn while you're facing the tires head on.

PS. I'm a photographer. I think I have some sort of idea about "light". http://www.flickr.com/photos/gunnerx/

[sfu_lifer]

anyone use their ps3 for the web? i got a wireless keyboard and mouse and its awesome with the ps3 and a 50 inh tv :-)

Barely cos the browser sucks. It's not bad when you need to check your mail in a hurry.

[jeeva86]

+1 about the very dark spot as mentioned above. First time I drove I had no idea what the hell I hit, I thought it was clear ahead. It's way too dark there.

[Musiq Soulchild]

is 20 gb of space - emotion engine worth 124$? i doubt it. and the ps3's are not xbox 360's in that their failure rate is very low.

The 80gb comes with the motorsotrm and i'll be able to get the 5 free dvds.

if the 60gb is known to be in very good condition go for that.

Ya the person says its mint. At the end of the day, are the 5 blu rays and the ps3 being new worth $75 more?

[awestruck]

And it's supposed to look like that in real life. For example...

You get the idea. :)

[IMG]http://www.findrentals.com/php/12564/FilteredSunView_medres.jpg[/IMG

[IMG]http://emiliewood.com/photos/november2005/29-nov-05-view-office.jpg[/IMG

[IMG]http://thomashawk.com/hello/209/1017/480/Staring%20at%20the%20Sun.jpg[

You forgot that the sun was setting in the the second pic. And damn in that first picture, I never knew the corners of my vision were suppose to turn completely black when I'm looking at the sun shining through clouds. Worst comparison pics ever.

[maebach]

The 80gb comes with the motorsotrm and i'll be able to get the 5 free dvds.



Ya the person says its mint. At the end of the day, are the 5 blu rays and the ps3 being new worth $75 more?

that's for you to decide. theres like a hundred should I buy threads out there for the ps3. go read.

[zerocool24]

The 80gb comes with the motorsotrm and i'll be able to get the 5 free dvds.



Ya the person says its mint. At the end of the day, are the 5 blu rays and the ps3 being new worth $75 more?

in my opinion yes, even if you only watch the movies once, you could always sell them here for probably 15-20 each, motorstorm still sells brand new for 60-70 bucks.

[rahzel]

yeah, that last turn is too dark. the first time i took it i had no idea where the turn was until i was right there. also, as i said earlier, that track in general is a little too dark, but again, what i'm seeing isn't nearly as dark as what GunnerX posted. all the other turns are clearly visible except for that last one.

[Martinga]

Hey, I was thinking of getting a ps3 now that the price cut is coming.
Can someone explain to me what the hd space is used for?. Like what do use those 80 gigs on?
How big are saves for Ps3 games?
Someone please tell me the size of things (how heavy are demos in terms of size).
Also, what do you use the usb and other ports for?
I'm sorry for my lazzyness, google might have been easier, but I want to have an explanation from ppl who already own one.

[rahzel]

videos, music, pictures, game saves, game files, games and demos. you can stream media files from your PS3 though. also, i think Sony plans to sell HD movies on PSN.

saves are not big, but some games install files on the HDD. some games don't install anything but oblivion installs almost 5GB! i think more and more developers are going to do this but i think the average will be 1-2GB.

demos are anywhere from less than 300mb to 1.6GB. most demos are around 800MB-900MB

USB ports are for ps2-ps3 memory card adapters, ps2-ps3 gamepad adapters, usb mics, usb drives, external usb hdd's, charging your ps3 controller etc. i only use one for my usb drive.

[Martinga]

videos, music, pictures, game saves, game files, games and demos. you can stream media files from your PS3 though. also, i think Sony plans to sell HD movies on PSN.

saves are not big, but some games install files on the HDD. some games don't install anything but oblivion installs almost 5GB! i think more and more developers are going to do this but i think the average will be 1-2GB.

demos are anywhere from less than 300mb to 1.6GB. most demos are around 800MB-900MB

USB ports are for ps2-ps3 memory card adapters, ps2-ps3 gamepad adapters, usb mics, usb drives, external usb hdd's, charging your ps3 controller etc. i only use one for my usb drive.

Thanks for the answers.
So can you use an external hard drive?
Also, will 40 gigs not be enough space? (i was consider buying the 40 when it came out).
Also, how important is it to have an HDTV to play Ps3?
Cause I'm considering buying both an hdtv and the ps3. I'm aware and have played/seen on an hdtv, and the graphics are stunning. But will the graphics be complete crap if played on a normal crt tv?
thanks again for replying.

[jeffyjaixx]

Look at the sky in that picture. Now compare it to the sky in your "sample" pictures. You can't even see the back of the car, it's all BLACK. Is that how it is in real life when you're driving around? You can't see the back of people's cars if the sun is in front of you? And in your picture, you have already turned. Try taking a picture before the turn while you're facing the tires head on.

PS. I'm a photographer. I think I have some sort of idea about "light". http://www.flickr.com/photos/gunnerx/

It may look all black in the pictures but when I was playing it and looking at it with the naked eye, I could still see the back albeit not perfectly clear. Your pictures were definitely way too dark, it's like the brightness was turned all the way down. Of course it's not like that in real life because you're actually in the car and there are various objects around you that reflect the light to be able to see the back of the car in front of you. When I was in the in-dash view and racing in motion, I didn't even notice that dark spot until you mentioned it to me.

I admit, it's not a perfect impression of how it looks like in real life but it's a pretty good try.

You forgot that the sun was setting in the the second pic. And damn in that first picture, I never knew the corners of my vision were suppose to turn completely black when I'm looking at the sun shining through clouds. Worst comparison pics ever.

It's hard to find pics like that. I guess you failed to see my "you get what I'm saying" part.

Here's a GRAW2 pic. GRAW2 has one the best lightings in any game.

http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/762/762797/tom-clancys-ghost-recon-advanced-warfighter-2-20070208003120215.jpg

Notice the plant on the left side. That was what PD was trying to do in the game. In that third-person perspective in GT5:P demo, you are facing directly at the sun and from that point of view, it looks like the back of the car is very very dark and shady.

Try to picture the light source in the game as behind all the ferris wheel, towers, stands. It is positioned behind everything. So obviously when you are directly looking at it, you will see the "shadows" or "silhouettes" of the objects aforementioned. It's hard to describe.

[awestruck]

I guess you failed to see my "you get what I'm saying" part.


"You get the idea" vs. "You get what I'm saying" are two different things. Me "getting the idea" is that your GT pic should be completely dark on all four corners of the image. Hence, worst comparison pics ever.

[jeffyjaixx]

"You get the idea" vs. "You get what I'm saying" are two different things. Me "getting the idea" is that your GT pic should be completely dark on all four corners of the image. Hence, worst comparison pics ever.

Well, that's definitely not my "idea" you're talking about. My "idea" was that when looking directly at the light source in that third person perspective, it should look shady and dark-ish. Also, we need a screen take of that in-game. Cameras can't imitate what the eye can see in that situation because it does not look that dark even in my picture in real life.

[jeffyjaixx]

This is what I'm talking about. I think this is a screen take of the replay mode which the difference is that, AFAIK, replay mode has 4xAA compared to the 2xAA in-game. The main point is that the lighting should be the same. Correct me if I'm wrong.

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/813/813395/gran-turismo-5-images-20070816051512869.jpg

Now try putting that perspective into third-person and farther away. It is actually not that dark but it looks dark because you're looking directly at it. Also, the calibration and display of the TV could make it look darker than it really is. The screen take shows what it should look like on the TV if it was perfectly displayed.

Like someone said in another forum, GT:5 P demo screens looks more like a very bad photograph of what a real-life gran turismo should look like.

With all that said and done, I think that PD tried to make that part of the track seem as realistic as possible but could be further improved. Honestly, when I was playing through that part through the in-dash view, I was going so fast I never noticed the dark part one bit. Although I can imagine some could notice when in third-person view.

[Sgt_Strider]

Thanks for the answers.
So can you use an external hard drive?
Also, will 40 gigs not be enough space? (i was consider buying the 40 when it came out).
Also, how important is it to have an HDTV to play Ps3?
Cause I'm considering buying both an hdtv and the ps3. I'm aware and have played/seen on an hdtv, and the graphics are stunning. But will the graphics be complete crap if played on a normal crt tv?
thanks again for replying.

I don't know how the PS3 will look like on a analog TV, but I don't think it'll be good. Once you go high-res you can't go back!

[Shuzzy]

I don't know how the PS3 will look like on a analog TV, but I don't think it'll be good. Once you go high-res you can't go back!

they look fine on an analog tv, and the gameplay is still there. sure, they look amazing when played on a great tv, but still a good system otherwise.

[kevin01]

My ps3 broke the other day.... when i turned it on it says YOUR HARD DISK FILE IS CORRUPT. PRESS the PS BUTTON TO REFORMAT...


i press it and then i keep getting this message over and over. I cant even get into XMB or anything.

Called sony and if i dont find my reciept itll cost me $160 to get another one where "all the parts have been replaced, but the casing is from a used model." I have a 20gb and the guy said ill be gettin a 20gb back.

[bmaz]

My ps3 broke the other day.... when i turned it on it says YOUR HARD DISK FILE IS CORRUPT. PRESS the PS BUTTON TO REFORMAT...


i press it and then i keep getting this message over and over. I cant even get into XMB or anything.

Called sony and if i dont find my reciept itll cost me $160 to get another one where "all the parts have been replaced, but the casing is from a used model." I have a 20gb and the guy said ill be gettin a 20gb back.
I have no experience with this, but it sounds like it's a Hard Drive issue, and since you can easily swap hard drives can't you just get ( borrow ) a 2.5" hard drive to test it, before shipping it in to Sony?

[kevin01]

I have no experience with this, but it sounds like it's a Hard Drive issue, and since you can easily swap hard drives can't you just get ( borrow ) a 2.5" hard drive to test it, before shipping it in to Sony?

I dont know anyone that has a 2.5" drive..... My casing that i have right now has a problem on the side, so I think i should just exchange it.

[GunnerX]

Notice the plant on the left side. That was what PD was trying to do in the game. In that third-person perspective in GT5:P demo, you are facing directly at the sun and from that point of view, it looks like the back of the car is very very dark and shady.

Try to picture the light source in the game as behind all the ferris wheel, towers, stands. It is positioned behind everything. So obviously when you are directly looking at it, you will see the "shadows" or "silhouettes" of the objects aforementioned. It's hard to describe.

Look at the base of the plant. It's not all black. The plant itself has various shades and the base is also shaded. PD got lazy, they just made everything black. Objects shouldn't change shades depending on how you turn your head unless the light source is yourself.

[rahzel]

they didn't get lazy... there is a rendered image there, its not just black. again, the game is just a tad too dark. they need to play with the gamma/brightness in the game, or allow us to adjust it in game (which they might do).

are you also forgetting this is a demo of a demo of a full game? they have a lot of time to tweak the game and it definitely needs some polishing. but PD are very talented PS developers, i have no doubt GT5 will look great.

[GunnerX]

they didn't get lazy... there is a rendered image there, its not just black. again, the game is just a tad too dark. they need to play with the gamma/brightness in the game, or allow us to adjust it in game (which they might do).

are you also forgetting this is a demo of a demo of a full game? they have a lot of time to tweak the game and it definitely needs some polishing. but PD are very talented PS developers, i have no doubt GT5 will look great.

The issue is that the gamma and/or brightness is the least of their problems. If this was to release in spring 2008, they definitely have a lot more work to do. The game stutters when there's around 6 cars on screen. The AI sucks, the track is very bland. And there's supposed to be car damage? If they were to put all of those in the game, I think they should work on this for another year.

[rdtx2002]

The issue is that the gamma and/or brightness is the least of their problems. If this was to release in spring 2008, they definitely have a lot more work to do. The game stutters when there's around 6 cars on screen. The AI sucks, the track is very bland. And there's supposed to be car damage? If they were to put all of those in the game, I think they should work on this for another year.

car damage is in Prologue.. there was no mention of car damage in the 'demo'. Perhaps the damage models were not ready for the demo

I don't understand your gripe of the track being 'bland'.. that is how racing cars on a race track is.. you don't race cars to see pretty trees or lights or whatnot.. you race to beat the cars you are racing against.

[Emancipated]

Hey, are you guys playing GT5 Prologue or something? I know that track is Suzuka so something must be up. Did Sony release a beta for North America?

[GunnerX]

I don't understand your gripe of the track being 'bland'.. that is how racing cars on a race track is.. you don't race cars to see pretty trees or lights or whatnot.. you race to beat the cars you are racing against.

Hahaha, best comment EVAR!

[Blue7thGen]

Hey, are you guys playing GT5 Prologue or something? I know that track is Suzuka so something must be up. Did Sony release a beta for North America?

Yes, sign up for a japanese psn account and download :)

[GunnerX]

Hey, are you guys playing GT5 Prologue or something? I know that track is Suzuka so something must be up. Did Sony release a beta for North America?

A Trial of Prologue was release in the Japanese Marketplace. Just create a Japanese account and download it. www.japanesepsn.com

[theprodigy]

Can anyone tell me if they hear a noise while the system first starts up?

The noise sounds like that of a piece of paper put in between the fan blades and it just starts whacking it...

It only happens for the first 2-3 seconds once the system starts up....the noise disappears right afterwards when the fan speeds up.

Not entirely sure if its the fan or something else.

Just wanted to know if it was normal among others or if I have a defective ps3...

[zerocool24]

Can anyone tell me if they hear a noise while the system first starts up?

The noise sounds like that of a piece of paper put in between the fan blades and it just starts whacking it...

It only happens for the first 2-3 seconds once the system starts up....the noise disappears right afterwards when the fan speeds up.

Not entirely sure if its the fan or something else.

Just wanted to know if it was normal among others or if I have a defective ps3...

mine is fairly silent.

[sfu_lifer]

mine is fairly silent.
Same here. I got mine around late Dec if that makes a diff (or not)...

[theprodigy]

Dang, sucks for me to hear...It hasn't caused any problems, but don't know if it will in the long run...I've already had it for about 4 months...so can't really go and exchange it

[jeffyjaixx]

Look at the base of the plant. It's not all black. The plant itself has various shades and the base is also shaded. PD got lazy, they just made everything black. Objects shouldn't change shades depending on how you turn your head unless the light source is yourself.

But it's not all black. Your picture was definitely too dark.

[CFRTim]

If you think GT5 won't look "that" good, have a peek at how well Lost Planet for the PS3 is coming along.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/jaggies/lost-planet-ps3-burns-my-eyes-their-blood-soothes-313525.php
http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=22078

[sfu_lifer]

If you think GT5 won't look "that" good, have a peek at how well Lost Planet for the PS3 is coming along.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/jaggies/lost-planet-ps3-burns-my-eyes-their-blood-soothes-313525.php
http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=22078
They got lots of time to optimize the engine a bit more to up the AA. I've no interest playing this after playing it on the 360 wayyy back.

[GunnerX]

But it's not all black. Your picture was definitely too dark.

How's this one then. It's way OVEREXPOSED. The whites are definitely blown. Look at the ground to the right and you can see it's lighted. However, what's in front of me? Where's the back of the car? The sky is quite bright! I can see the line on the road quite clearly though! At least they didn't black that out. Oh wait, it's not even shaded! It's just a solid white line! Ok, I'm done. :D

http://www.gunnerx.com/pics/vidgames/gtv_1.jpg

[rahzel]

you really need to adjust your brightness or something. i've seen several screenshots of the demo and i've played the demo to death, and it does not look like THAT. to make it worse, you park yourself in the darkest part of the track to prove your point.

[zydus]

How's this one then. It's way OVEREXPOSED. The whites are definitely blown. Look at the ground to the right and you can see it's lighted. However, what's in front of me? Where's the back of the car? The sky is quite bright! I can see the line on the road quite clearly though! At least they didn't black that out. Oh wait, it's not even shaded! It's just a solid white line! Ok, I'm done. :D

http://www.gunnerx.com/pics/vidgames/gtv_1.jpg

something's very wrong here

[numb555]

http://www.gunnerx.com/pics/vidgames/gtv_1.jpg


EFV set to very low?

[GunnerX]

you really need to adjust your brightness or something. i've seen several screenshots of the demo and i've played the demo to death, and it does not look like THAT. to make it worse, you park yourself in the darkest part of the track to prove your point.

Um... That was actually MY POINT!!! I have asked jeffyjaixx to take a pic in the same spot as my picture yet he keeps on posting replay pics or different areas. If anyone has the demo, take a pic in the same spot and show me that it's not dark like that and it's actually very bright and full of life! There's no reason for any areas in the track to be that dark in bright daylight.

[rahzel]

ok, i took a screen cap with my digital camera with the flash off and it does look as dark as your pic. however, it does not look that dark when i'm actually playing.

[CFRTim]

ok, i took a screen cap with my digital camera with the flash off and it does look as dark as your pic. however, it does not look that dark when i'm actually playing.

You ARE supposed to have the flash off when you take a picture of the TV screen, so I don’t get your point here. GunnerX has done many professional looking pictures (look up his website for some good examples), so I am sure he’s got a good digital camera, and also knows how to use it. Anyway, I’m going by my friends’ house tonight (he’s got a PS3), and I am going to see this for myself.

[rahzel]

wtf? i was just saying i turned the flash off, that was not supposed to be a point in its own... my point was that when i took the pic, it looks as dark as GunnerX's shot, but when you're actually playing, its not that dark. i thought i was quite clear.... guess not. i don't recall saying "i took a screen cap with my digital camera with the flash off and thats why it looks too dark"?

also, as i said earlier, i do think that particular turn in the track is too dark (and the game in general), but originally, i thought GunnerX' shots were exaggerated but it could be that his camera (like mine) makes it a little darker than it actually is.

[Symcor]

I just purchase a PS3 and when I connected it to my TV (Sharp LCD) using HDMI. No picture show. Did I miss some setting procedure using HDMI cable? I used the AV cable provided in PS3 and it works. Therefore I think the machine is okay but some setting I am missing during initial setup.

Anyone one can help?:(

[GunnerX]

I just purchase a PS3 and when I connected it to my TV (Sharp LCD) using HDMI. No picture show. Did I miss some setting procedure using HDMI cable? I used the AV cable provided in PS3 and it works. Therefore I think the machine is okay but some setting I am missing during initial setup.

Anyone one can help?:(

You need to go to your settings and change it to HDMI.

[Symcor]

You need to go to your settings and change it to HDMI.

No TV show is connected with HDMI, just no picture (the starting screen of PS3) show. Can you walk me through a bit?

Thanks

[GunnerX]

No TV show is connected with HDMI, just no picture (the starting screen of PS3) show. Can you walk me through a bit?

Thanks

Try this:


* Turn on TV and set input to HDMI port being used.
* Make sure PS3 is connected via HDMI.
* Power on PS3 via power button and HOLD IT for 5 seconds (release after the second beep). It should automatically configure your PS3 to the TV's native resolution for all settings.


Hope that helps.

[maebach]

plug the ps3 in with composite and hdmi. then go to display settings and change it to hdmi.

[Symcor]

Thanks, problem solved

[maebach]

Thanks, problem solved

what was the problem? which set of instructions solved it?

[sfu_lifer]

what was the problem? which set of instructions solved it?
Either way should've worked. The PS3 can "autosense" and swap between the two if you hold the power button during startup. I was confused too when I first bought the PS3 and tried to hook it up via HDMI.

[zerocool24]

Either way should've worked. The PS3 can "autosense" and swap between the two if you hold the power button during startup. I was confused too when I first bought the PS3 and tried to hook it up via HDMI.

i dont recall having any issues at all when i first hooked mine up, but then again i did not try with the cable that came with the ps3. I still am shocked they didnt include the cable with the system.

[CFRTim]

Ok, I had a chance to have a look at the GT5 P demo (on a SONY LCD), and no doubt there is something wrong with the lighting and shadow in this game, also the jagged effect is too noticeable for my liking. Nevertheless, this is a demo of a demo, so I hope Polyphony works things out by the final release; although I don’t think they will do many updates to the graphic engine once the Prologue is out (December 13 in Japan). Let’s see what a month and a half can do. I do love the car detailing, but I do miss the rumble over the apex in a turn.

[jeffyjaixx]

How's this one then. It's way OVEREXPOSED. The whites are definitely blown. Look at the ground to the right and you can see it's lighted. However, what's in front of me? Where's the back of the car? The sky is quite bright! I can see the line on the road quite clearly though! At least they didn't black that out. Oh wait, it's not even shaded! It's just a solid white line! Ok, I'm done. :D


Okay, I took a picture in the same position.

Mine

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/5267/dscf3670vt7.jpg

Yours

http://www.gunnerx.com/pics/vidgames/gtv_1.jpg

See the difference? I can still see the BMW logo at the back of the 135i. Also, it does not even look that dark in real life when I was taking the pic. Either your TV is not properly calibrated or your camera is not capturing well. (I think it's the former since you seem to know a thing or two about cameras :D)

[sfu_lifer]

So is Ratchet and Clank (the first must-have PS3 game for me since Resistance), out tomorrow? US EBGames says it "ships" tomorrow the 23rd.
Oct 30 on the Futureshop site :(

[maebach]

I cant wait, it looks amazing, the demo was fun too. It says tommorrow on all gaming sites. but yuo never know. good things come late.

[rahzel]

Ok, I had a chance to have a look at the GT5 P demo (on a SONY LCD), and no doubt there is something wrong with the lighting and shadow in this game, also the jagged effect is too noticeable for my liking. Nevertheless, this is a demo of a demo, so I hope Polyphony works things out by the final release; although I don’t think they will do many updates to the graphic engine once the Prologue is out (December 13 in Japan). Let’s see what a month and a half can do. I do love the car detailing, but I do miss the rumble over the apex in a turn.
i think the jagged effect is caused by the lighting mixed with the DoF (depth of field). close by cars don't appear very jagged but distant cars are jagged messes. also in replays, there is heat haze which makes it even worse. this is the first time where i prefer the visuals in-game compared to the replays in a GT game.

"Quaz" over at beyond3d says that the demo uses 2xAA at "1080p" (actually rendered at 1280x1080p) and 4xAA at 720p. GT:HD was 2xAA @ 720p and 0xAA at "1080p" (1440x1080p).

i think the lighting causing the jagged edges could be fixed by the release of GT5P, i don't think it would be TOO much trouble, but they probably won't address it unless they're aware of it. i hope they up the gamma/brightness too. i'm going to wait until the full release of GT5 anyway.

btw, the pic JJ posted is pretty much exactly what i see in game, but when i took a screen cap, it looks more of what GunnerX posted.

edit: heres a quote from "nAo" from the beyond3d boards (he worked on Heavenly Sword and is the creator of "NAO32").
Many games have problems with AA and HDR cause tone mapping is performed on the MSAAAed back buffer after it has been resolved to a regular/not multisampled back buffer.
The correct way to do it is to resolve a MSAAed tone mapped back buffer, but this approach is generally slower cause tone mapping has to be applied on 2X or 4X pixels.
Games that don't apply a tone mapping operator as a post processing filter (HL2 for instance) don't have this issue.
i'm not sure what this means exactly, but i think its a problem with the AA and HDR being implemented at the same time and from the sounds of it, its not that hard of a fix.

[bmaz]

For those who recently purchased a 80 GB PS3, what is the manufacture date?
And if you have had previous experience with the 60 GB or 20 GB PS3, does the 80 GB one run cooler/quieter?

[rahzel]

two new vids of Uncharted.
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/26770.html
http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/15689

looks very nice.:eek:

the splashes when enemies fall in the water are pretty bad, but apparently, thats of an older build.

[sfu_lifer]

I cant wait, it looks amazing, the demo was fun too. It says tommorrow on all gaming sites. but yuo never know. good things come late.
With the PS3, that's NOT a good thing. It's game starved as it is.

[GunnerX]

Okay, I took a picture in the same position.


Haha, you know full well that's not exactly the same position. :) And I'm sure that you took a pic of it when you were further back and it was totally dark like my picture. This illustrates my point of the lighting being seriously messed up. I don't see how the area gets brighter as you move closer to it. The light source is all messed up.

[evozero]

i phoned a couple EB games locations (i have a gift card i need to use up) to see if they have r&c yet. no such luck, one said wednesday-thursday and the other thursday or later. if anyone finds it today post it up in here.

[jeffyjaixx]

Haha, you know full well that's not exactly the same position. :) And I'm sure that you took a pic of it when you were further back and it was totally dark like my picture. This illustrates my point of the lighting being seriously messed up. I don't see how the area gets brighter as you move closer to it. The light source is all messed up.

That's virtually the same position because the lighting is the same in mine whether I move the car forward more or back but for your sake, I will take a better picture. ;)

http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/3051/dscf3686yp4.jpg

http://www.gunnerx.com/pics/vidgames/gtv_1.jpg

Okay. I hope you are satisfied with this one. Your car is wider than my BMW so this is basically the same position. With that out of the way, let me tell you why I think your TV is not calibrated properly.

1. Look at the right side of the pictures. Your grass looks like it needs some watering while mine are perfectly healthy. Colour seems to be off (don't know if that's due to your camera or TV)

2. Look at the crowd stands. You can see that in my picture, the crowd spreads throughout the whole picture. In yours, you can only see 1/3. Your brightness is too low?

3. In my tin cans, you can differentiate between the darker cans and whiter cans. In yours, they're all black? Also, no textures at all while in mine you can see them.

4. In your picture, the car and the road is one colour while in mine, you can perfectly distinguish the car from the road.

5. Look at the left side of the picture. Why are your trees black while mine are perfectly green?

6. Your picture is so overly exposed that you can see that the outline of the ferris wheel and tower are not perfect and kind of disorientated. In mine, you can see the outline of both perfectly. Same with the cars.

7. No shadow on the car...

SO yeah, I think you should calibrate your TV first then test that area again.

In third person mode, that area is a little bit too dark for my taste as well but when I'm in in-dash view, I don't even notice it. I'm sure many gamers tend to blow through that part pretty fast anyways to even care about the dark part in third person view unless you're really hardcore and want to find out every technical detail of the map.

[zydus]

@jeffy are u running ur ps3 on a monitor?

[jeffyjaixx]

@jeffy are u running ur ps3 on a monitor?

Yes.

[CFRTim]

Looking at the above pics, the lighting is crap in both of them (it's like crap and crapier). I hope it gets fixed by the time the full version comes out.

[sfu_lifer]

Ok stop with the pics already. Geez. We know there's a little bit of a lightning problem, nothing to get too anal about. Still beats the pants off Forza's.
Now let's get to discussing Ratchet and Clank :D

[CFRTim]

Ok stop with the pics already. Geez. We know there's a little bit of a lightning problem, nothing to get too anal about. Still beats the pants off Forza's.
Now let's get to discussing Ratchet and Clank :D

The game is getting great reviews. So far is the highest ranked PS3 game, so it should help with the system sales as well.

[sfu_lifer]

The game is getting great reviews. So far is the highest ranked PS3 game, so it should help with the system sales as well.
I want this game bad. I was willing to drive down to the US to get it but it seems even there they're not selling it till tomorrow at least and other stores insisting on the original release date.

[CFRTim]

Sorry to bring this up again (sfu_lifer), but for everyone that thinks the light and shadow in GT5 is OK, have a look at this

Side by side graphics comparison of the recently released demo of Gran Turismo 5 Prologue on PS3 and the full game Forza Motorsport 2 that was released a while back on Xbox 360. Images were taken with the same TV, same camera, same settings, same track, same color car, same positioning on track, same room lighting. The comparison is simple, GT5 is on the left while Forza 2 is on the right side. Which looks better in your opinion?

http://bp0.blogger.com/_qGtGl4NFC8s/RxqbK3NpprI/AAAAAAAAHvk/aiGbcA3E4-M/s1600/gt4.jpg

http://bp1.blogger.com/_qGtGl4NFC8s/RxqbLHNppsI/AAAAAAAAHvs/QUAgUAmYeRw/s1600/forza4.jpg
More images avail. here : http://gameplanets.blogspot.com/2007/10/gt5-vs-forza-2-graphics-comparison.html

[bmaz]

Sorry to bring this up again (sfu_lifer), but for everyone that thinks the light and shadow in GT5 is OK, have a look at this

Side by side graphics comparison of the recently released demo of Gran Turismo 5 Prologue on PS3 and the full game Forza Motorsport 2 that was released a while back on Xbox 360. Images were taken with the same TV, same camera, same settings, same track, same color car, same positioning on track, same room lighting. The comparison is simple, GT5 is on the left while Forza 2 is on the right side. Which looks better in your opinion?

http://bp0.blogger.com/_qGtGl4NFC8s/RxqbK3NpprI/AAAAAAAAHvk/aiGbcA3E4-M/s1600/gt4.jpg

http://bp1.blogger.com/_qGtGl4NFC8s/RxqbLHNppsI/AAAAAAAAHvs/QUAgUAmYeRw/s1600/forza4.jpg
More images avail. here : http://gameplanets.blogspot.com/2007/10/gt5-vs-forza-2-graphics-comparison.html
Lol @ those pics, the Sun is at a different position in those 2 games of course the lighting is gonna look different.
Look at the second pic for Forza, the sun is 'behind the car, while for GT it's in front of the car.

Even with the first pic the Forza shot has the sun more to the side that to the front, and the 350Z has a more rounded and glossy back, white the GTR has matt black cover over it's 'square' back.

Those aren't the best comparisons.

[rahzel]

http://gameplanets.blogspot.com/2007/10/gt5-vs-forza-2-graphics-comparison.html
Forza definitely has a little better track side detail. but GT5P still has the superior car models. GT games never did have THE best environments, but they were never BAD. they always have the best car models though. there are also other things to consider, like GT5P has 16 vehicles in that particular race (how many are there in Forza 2?), and this is a demo of a demo of a full game. yeah you can argue Forza 2 came out earlier this year, but its still a second generation 360 title. at least compare GT5P to Forza 2... the real comparison would be GT5 and Forza 2 imo. GT5P is arguably better than Forza 2 already imo because to me, car models are the most important thing when you're playing. environments are just as important in replays though, but again, GT5P environments aren't too bad.

just my 2 cents.

edit: and on a technical side, both have 2xAA at their maximum resolution and run at 60fps, but GT5P has better texture filtering and it runs at a higher resolution (1280x720p vs 1280x1080p). all in all, if they fix this jaggy/lighting issue, i think GT5P looks better.

[CFRTim]

:arrowu: I am not trying to compare games here, I just want to point out how the lighting, shadows and HDR should look, regardless to the positioning of the sun. When GT5 comes out FM2 will be 1 year old, so it's not a fair compare either. Anyway, GT5 does look better, for sure superior car models, but it's not as good as some early screens and videos, and I hope they work those kinks out.

[rahzel]

i agree. i think the only thing they need to fix is the jaggies and up the gamma though and it will look identical to the videos/screens we've seen.

[jeffyjaixx]

Sorry to bring this up again (sfu_lifer), but for everyone that thinks the light and shadow in GT5 is OK, have a look at this

Side by side graphics comparison of the recently released demo of Gran Turismo 5 Prologue on PS3 and the full game Forza Motorsport 2 that was released a while back on Xbox 360. Images were taken with the same TV, same camera, same settings, same track, same color car, same positioning on track, same room lighting. The comparison is simple, GT5 is on the left while Forza 2 is on the right side. Which looks better in your opinion?

More images avail. here : http://gameplanets.blogspot.com/2007/10/gt5-vs-forza-2-graphics-comparison.html

Those pics were taken from a fellow member of another forum I go to.

Forza 2 has GT5:P demo beat in the environments but the car models and lighting in GT5:P are more realistic. Like someone in another forum said "GT5:P is like a bad photograph of reality while Forza 2 is a nice painting but nowhere realistic."

[rahzel]

GT5P vs real Suzuka (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8336528&postcount=1656)

[marcopolo85]

Looking pretty good for Ratchet and clank except for Gamespot which gave the game a 7.5.
IGN = 9.4
PSU = 9.5
Gamepro = 5/5
1up = 8.5
PSM Magazine = 9.5
Gamernode = 9.5
PSM3 Magazine UK = 9.3
Gametrailers = 9.0
Games Radar = 9.0
Gamezone = 9.3
Pro-G = 9
EGM = 9
PSX Extreme = 9
Gaming-Age = 90%
Play Magazine = 10/10
Gametap = 10/10

[jeffyjaixx]

Looking pretty good for Ratchet and clank except for Gamespot which gave the game a 7.5.
IGN = 9.4
PSU = 9.5
Gamepro = 5/5
1up = 8.5
PSM Magazine = 9.5
Gamernode = 9.5
PSM3 Magazine UK = 9.3
Gametrailers = 9.0
Games Radar = 9.0
Gamezone = 9.3
Pro-G = 9
EGM = 9
PSX Extreme = 9
Gaming-Age = 90%
Play Magazine = 10/10
Gametap = 10/10

Avg. 92% overall based on 12 media outlets.

The Gamespot review was just weird. This is the list of games from the guy who reviewed it.

http://www.gamespot.com/users/AaronThomas/contributions?mode=reviews&page=2

Nothing above an 8 except a few sports games and COD3? lol. :D

[bmaz]

For those who recently purchased a 80 GB PS3, what is the manufacture date?
And if you have had previous experience with the 60 GB or 20 GB PS3, does the 80 GB one run cooler/quieter?
Anyone?

[sfu_lifer]

Avg. 92% overall based on 12 media outlets.

The Gamespot review was just weird. This is the list of games from the guy who reviewed it.

http://www.gamespot.com/users/AaronThomas/contributions?mode=reviews&page=2

Nothing above an 8 except a few sports games and COD3? lol. :D
Good to hear. You're never gonna get a super score everywhere. Look at Bioshock. The Maxim guys gave it 60% :mad:
92% is outstanding. Glad I went for this instead of Heavenly Sword :cheesygri

[marcopolo85]

Good to hear. You're never gonna get a super score everywhere. Look at Bioshock. The Maxim guys gave it 60% :mad:
92% is outstanding. Glad I went for this instead of Heavenly Sword :cheesygri

give heavenly sword a rental, its well worth it. Its a short game so you should be able to finish it no problem.

[nfnx]

ratchet isnt really my cup of tea but let me know how it runs i might pick up as a rental cause the demo was pretty fun

[sfu_lifer]

give heavenly sword a rental, its well worth it. Its a short game so you should be able to finish it no problem.
Did that already 3rd week it was out. Passed it on the first sitting.

[jeffyjaixx]

Did anyone actually buy Heavenly Sword and is going to keep the game?

I'm still thinking whether I should rent or buy...

[rahzel]

i bought it and i might sell it. it was a great experience with a great story and visuals but i already beat it on the 2 available modes. i know i will want to own it so i might sell it now and buy it cheap later on.

btw, everything except the WRX STi is unlocked in the GT5P demo (yes, the GTR is available :D ).

[rdtx2002]

:arrowu: I am not trying to compare games here, I just want to point out how the lighting, shadows and HDR should look, regardless to the positioning of the sun. When GT5 comes out FM2 will be 1 year old, so it's not a fair compare either. Anyway, GT5 does look better, for sure superior car models, but it's not as good as some early screens and videos, and I hope they work those kinks out.

your statement is full of hypocrisy ;)

[zerocool24]

Did anyone actually buy Heavenly Sword and is going to keep the game?

I'm still thinking whether I should rent or buy...

i bought it but i still havent touched it, ive got way too many other games im playing at the moment.

[SergesPlace]

Hey gang, has anyone seen the new ps3 remote controls in Toronto yet?

[CFRTim]

From Insomniac:

"We recently discovered a bug on the US version of Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction that some of you may encounter the first time you boot the game," Insomniac community manager James Stevenson told Shacknews. "With specific amounts of free space on your drive, you may see a screen that tells you have insufficient space to create game data even though there is plenty of free space on your drive."

There is a workaround as well

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/49587

[CFRTim]

Top Gear has hooked up with Sony to make Top Gear test track part of Gran Turismo 5 :eek:

http://www.topgear.com/content/news/stories/2368/

The latest iteration of the GT series will also be fully online - and, alongside lapping the TG circuit, players will be able to download classic episodes of Top Gear via a dedicated motoring channel called Gran Turismo TV on the Playstation network.......... SWEEEEET

About Top Gear : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_Gear_%28current_format%29

Top Gear is a BAFTA and Emmy Award-winning BBC television series about motor vehicles, mainly cars. The programme is estimated to have 8 million viewers each week in the UK on BBC Two.The show is presented by Jeremy Clarkson, Richard Hammond, James May and The Stig, an anonymous test driver. It is one of the most pirated television shows in the world.

[Badman]

did anyone buy ratchet and clank yet? If so where and whats the best price?

[icecold2021]

anyone interested in group buy ive made a thread for it.

[marcopolo85]

Top Gear has hooked up with Sony to make Top Gear test track part of Gran Turismo 5 :eek:

http://www.topgear.com/content/news/stories/2368/

The latest iteration of the GT series will also be fully online - and, alongside lapping the TG circuit, players will be able to download classic episodes of Top Gear via a dedicated motoring channel called Gran Turismo TV on the Playstation network.......... SWEEEEET

About Top Gear : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_Gear_%28current_format%29

Top Gear is a BAFTA and Emmy Award-winning BBC television series about motor vehicles, mainly cars. The programme is estimated to have 8 million viewers each week in the UK on BBC Two.The show is presented by Jeremy Clarkson, Richard Hammond, James May and The Stig, an anonymous test driver. It is one of the most pirated television shows in the world.

Holy **** that is awesome been watching Top Gear for 3 years now love the show. Cant wait to watch Jeremy Clarkson make fun of captain slow on the ps3.:cheesygri :cheesygri :cheesygri

[Neovingian]

did anyone buy ratchet and clank yet? If so where and whats the best price?

R&C:FTOC up on lunch, @ EBG, yeah I know EBG is soooo overpriced but I had a $120 credit on my account, and they had a $5 off coupon (expires Oct. 31st ) in their 2007 Autumn game booklet on the counter, bringing the price to $54.99 plus I paid no tax since I had the credits.

I'm assuming places will be offering it for $49.99 this wekeend like they did Heavenly Sword.

I'm curious to know how the "first must have title on the PS3" is. I'll give my review later in the week.

HOT TIP:
Also if you can find a used copy of Halo 3 for and cheap (as in $30 or less), EBG will guarantee you $50 store credit for this and you can also use their $5 off coupon on the Game guide, bringing your total to about $35.

And I'm sure you won't find R&C for $35 anywhere. Good Luck in the search!

[maebach]

Im excited for Guitar Hero 3 and Rock Band. Only a few more days until Gh3 is out!

[zerocool24]

anybody having issues with the ps store, i tried adding calling all cars, but i keep getting an error on my information, something about incorrect data, ive entered it like 6 times. it is on for 4.99 til tomorrow.

[ATLien69]

Both the new Nissan GT-R and Subaru WRX STI are now available on GT5: Prologue demo. :) This is shaping up to be my favourite game of all time...although I do agree with you guys that the lighting in the game is a bit dark...hopefully they fix that issue...

[Musiq Soulchild]

WTF? I can't see the GT5 demo on the playstation store or w.e its called :|

[marcopolo85]

WTF? I can't see the GT5 demo on the playstation store or w.e its called :|

thats because its on the japan store. You need to make a Japan account.

[rahzel]

Both the new Nissan GT-R and Subaru WRX STI are now available on GT5: Prologue demo. :) This is shaping up to be my favourite game of all time...although I do agree with you guys that the lighting in the game is a bit dark...hopefully they fix that issue...
the Lexus ISF and Mazda whatever they call it (Mazda 3) are also available. the unveiling clips were very nice.

i probably spent more hours playing GT:HD/GT5P demo than anything else on my PS3.

[BD006]

Dammit, now I really have to stop being lazy and make a Japanese account. :(

[Musiq Soulchild]

LOL WHAT! How do I make a japenese account?

[sfu_lifer]

LOL WHAT! How do I make a japenese account?
Create a new user, login, try to go to PSN, then create a new master account and choose Japan.
You'll need to memorize the menus so you can fill in the form properly. You'll also need a fake Japanese address (I used the Cdn consulate in Tokyo :cheesygri ).

[PCDawg]

Top Gear has hooked up with Sony to make Top Gear test track part of Gran Turismo 5 :eek:

http://www.topgear.com/content/news/stories/2368/

The latest iteration of the GT series will also be fully online - and, alongside lapping the TG circuit, players will be able to download classic episodes of Top Gear via a dedicated motoring channel called Gran Turismo TV on the Playstation network.......... SWEEEEET

About Top Gear : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_Gear_%28current_format%29

Top Gear is a BAFTA and Emmy Award-winning BBC television series about motor vehicles, mainly cars. The programme is estimated to have 8 million viewers each week in the UK on BBC Two.The show is presented by Jeremy Clarkson, Richard Hammond, James May and The Stig, an anonymous test driver. It is one of the most pirated television shows in the world.

http://www.topgear.com/content/features/stories/2007/10/stories/09/1.html

we will soon see how we compare to the staff at TG LOL

Forza held the title for a lil while since GT was at a standstill, but it'll soon come back on top yet again.

[fatpig]

Where's the cheapest place to buy the PS3 memory card adaptor to transfer my PS1/2 game saves? I know the MSRP is $19.99 but that seems like a lot for something I'll only need to use once.

[ashs]

anyone try eye of judgement out yet? it looks really cool (although ive never played card battle games before). also can the mic be used in other games i.e. resistance fall of man instead of a bluetooth headset?

[GunnerX]

Create a Japanese account: www.japanesepsn.com

Hold on to your GH2 guitar. The GH3 Les Paul guitar will NOT be compatible with the PS2 games.

http://www.ebgames.com/gs/bonus/gh3.asp


How is the functionality of the PS3 Les Paul wireless for the older Guitar Hero games (released on PS2)?
Correction: The new PS3 Les Paul wireless controller will NOT work at all with any of the Playstation2 Guitar Hero titles when played on the PS3. We suggest that you keep your PS2 console around to play the older PS2 Guitar Hero games. Using a PS2-to-PS3 USB adapter, GH1 will work on the PS3 using either the SG or the original PS2 wireless guitar.

[PCDawg]

Where's the cheapest place to buy the PS3 memory card adaptor to transfer my PS1/2 game saves? I know the MSRP is $19.99 but that seems like a lot for something I'll only need to use once.

Check out ebay. Other than that....retail shops, but they are all pretty much the same give/that a couple dollars.

[Neovingian]

Where's the cheapest place to buy the PS3 memory card adaptor to transfer my PS1/2 game saves? I know the MSRP is $19.99 but that seems like a lot for something I'll only need to use once.

Hey me & my buddies chipped in and split the adapter we paid around $25 when it was first released. I'll let you rent out our mem card adapter for the super low price of $5. Think about it.

[evozero]

anyone pick up ratchet & clank yet? thoughts?

i'm going to pick it up before my night class today. great reviews so far.

[Shuzzy]

im pumped for the 40gb ps3... finally gonna pick one up. $600+ is just too much for a system, i can't justify spending that kind of money on gaming. :cheesygri

[bumboclott]

I finally picked up a 60gb PS3 at BestBuy for $450... their website lists all their 60gb stock as NA for all locations. Don't believe that. I saw 3 left at Sherway Gardens and I heard theres still stock left at the Oakville location.

[PCDawg]

I finally picked up a 60gb PS3 at BestBuy for $450... their website lists all their 60gb stock as NA for all locations. Don't believe that. I saw 3 left at Sherway Gardens and I heard theres still stock left at the Oakville location.

That probably means they are short in supply and whatever is out there is all they have left.

$450 is a great deal and you get get 10% off if you apply for their credit card.

[firehawk12]

anyone try eye of judgement out yet? it looks really cool (although ive never played card battle games before). also can the mic be used in other games i.e. resistance fall of man instead of a bluetooth headset?

I picked it up, along with Ace Combat... haven't opened it up yet though.

[skule123]

anyone pick up ratchet & clank yet? thoughts?

i'm going to pick it up before my night class today. great reviews so far.

I think it's pretty amazing. Can't think of a better next gen platformer, at least until Mario Galaxy gets released.

[maebach]

ratchet and clank looks amazing, I might pick it up next week. I hope I dont though, Ive spent way too much the last few weeks on blu-rays and games.

[rahzel]

i wasn't going to pick it up right away (i was going to wait) but after reading the reviews, i'm probably going to pick it up soon. SM3 on Blu-Ray, CoD4, Uncharted and if UT3 makes 2007 for PS3, those are also on my list.

[the one]

Can anyone confirm the following for me:

1 . Is there rumble/vibration in the standard ps3 controllers in some games?

2. With wheels such as the g25 is there force feedback from grand turismo 4 being played on the ps3?

Thanks!!

[PCDawg]

Can anyone confirm the following for me:

1 . Is there rumble/vibration in the standard ps3 controllers in some games?

2. With wheels such as the g25 is there force feedback from grand turismo 4 being played on the ps3?

Thanks!!

1. Current ps3 controllers do not have the dual shock/rumble feature.
Dual shock controllers will soon be for sale (november)

2. Yes, you can play GT4 with forcefeedback wheel on the PS3.

[sfu_lifer]

Wow, in 2 days I actually bought 2 PS3 games, my attach rate is now 5 not counting a few crap PS3 games I bought and traded back in (see Fight Night R3, Nascar, Madden) :cheesygri

I haven't had time to hook up Eye of Judgment yet (I bought it really for the Playstation Eye) but Ratchet and Clank rules. Great buy, hope the game lasts a bit. Good thing I traded in tons of crappy 360 and PS2 games I had lying around way back at EB so I got R&C w/o having to drop any dough.

Now I got PS3 games to play while I wait out Uncharted and Rock Band for Xmas break. I prolly won't get SM3 on Blu-Ray since I'm not a big fan of the 3rd movie.

[AlphaTwo]

Dual shock controllers will soon be for sale (november)(If you import from Japan).

DualShock 3 won't arrive in North America until "Spring 2008"

[Mgz]

I wonder if the PS3 has a working modchips, would it help to increase the console sales?

[rdtx2002]

I wonder if the PS3 has a working modchips, would it help to increase the console sales?

no working modchips

[sleepyguy]

User upgradable HD is a great +++ though.

[drdrma]

I wonder if the PS3 has a working modchips, would it help to increase the console sales?

I've wondered if microsoft deliberately let's their console be easily hackable.

On another note, I'm frustrated with bestbuy, I pre-ordered eye of judgment and ratchet and clank. EOJ is back-orded and I see R&C on the shelves at future shop but BB still won't release it. I wonder why I even bother to pre-order with them.

[maebach]

I've wondered if microsoft deliberately let's their console be easily hackable.

On another note, I'm frustrated with bestbuy, I pre-ordered eye of judgment and ratchet and clank. EOJ is back-orded and I see R&C on the shelves at future shop but BB still won't release it. I wonder why I even bother to pre-order with them.

Im not sure either. I never pre-order. I buy it when I se it on the shelves or call before hand.

[GunnerX]

There really is not much reason to mod the PS3 right now. The game library is not there to warrant the amount of work involved. Plus the games are on Blu Ray. How many people are capable of copying BR discs. Plus of course the cost of BR blanks. :) Maybe next year.

[CFRTim]

This is just a rumor, but looks like fw 2.0 is around the corner, and still NO in-game XMB, or new BD playback supprt. I thought 2.0 would be a major update, so will see if this holds true or not:

Some of the main features of fw 2.0

Turn your PS3 on and off with PSP Remote play

A new PLAYSTATION Network category

A TV Category for those who install PlayTV into their HDD (SCEE only).

Playlist for Music & Photo

Content group for Video & Game XMB customization (Custom theme & background color setting): This will come with one alternative custome theme. Addition generic themes will be available for download via www.playstation.com with game title themes to follow on Nov 20th, distributed via the Store (PS/PC). The cost of the game themes haven't been decided yet. Guidelines for users to create their own Custom Themes will be distributed via www.playstation.com shortly after the firmware hits.

Information Board: This will be shown in the top right of the screen and include news feeds from Playstation.com as well as store updates. The board came be set to ticker mode, list mode, details mode or disabled.
Trend Micro Web Security for PS3™ internet browser: This is a parental lock for website viewing that will initially be free but that Trend Micro will later charge for.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/rumor/ps3-firmware-20-detailed-hits-next-week-315408.php

[Deals Deals Deals]

The customization sounds interesting.

[sfu_lifer]

2.0 is a major release, usually it should be chock-full of new features as opposed to minor security patches/bug fixes. That IMO doesn't sound like it merits a 2.0 designation.
Man Eye of Judgment seems hard to find. I'm trying to look for one for a friend but couldn't find one.

[uddinf]

can somebody tell me why I see no picture on my Dell LCD monitor (2005fpw)?

I am using a DVI cable and a have DVI to HDMI adapter connecting to the back of the PS3.

I use the same wire and connections with my HDTV LCD but no picture shows when I try to connect to the Dell Monitor.

[CFRTim]

I enjoy watching people getting all worked up in an argument, so here is some entertaining read. Some of the best parts are in the comments section :cheesygri

Former Harmonix employee and one-time PlayStation 3 developer Jason Booth has posted a harsh evaluation of Sony's latest console, the PS3

http://jbooth.blogspot.com/2007/10/ps3-misconceptions-and-spin.html

[evozero]

2.0 is a major release, usually it should be chock-full of new features as opposed to minor security patches/bug fixes. That IMO doesn't sound like it merits a 2.0 designation.
Man Eye of Judgment seems hard to find. I'm trying to look for one for a friend but couldn't find one.

that list of changes for 2.0 seems to be incomplete at best. i'd be surprised if they went ahead with 2.0 without adding some of the features people have been begging for. it's a rumor though, i'll believe it when it's confirmed.

i was at eb games earlier and they were unpacking stuff, they had 2 copies of the eye of judgment left. seems that they got 4 total, 2 employees bought them though. seems like shipments are fairly small. it was $79.99 if i'm not mistaken.

ratchet & clank is great though.

[sfu_lifer]

can somebody tell me why I see no picture on my Dell LCD monitor (2005fpw)?

I am using a DVI cable and a have DVI to HDMI adapter connecting to the back of the PS3.

I use the same wire and connections with my HDTV LCD but no picture shows when I try to connect to the Dell Monitor.

Did you flip it to HDMI when starting the PS3? Hold the Power sensor extra long when you're powering it up (after maybe 3-5 seconds you should hear an odd beep). Each time you do that, it should cycle from HDMI and Composite/RCA.

[sfu_lifer]

I enjoy watching people getting all worked up in an argument, so here is some entertaining read. Some of the best parts are in the comments section :cheesygri

Former Harmonix employee and one-time PlayStation 3 developer Jason Booth has posted a harsh evaluation of Sony's latest console, the PS3

http://jbooth.blogspot.com/2007/10/ps3-misconceptions-and-spin.html

I've posted about this earlier in this thread with some info from my friends also on the frontline and got slammed for it. Armchair wannabe college student (usually) graphics whores really have no clue when it comes to resource management and expense that development houses are constantly running into. It's no surprise that many PS3 teams are larger than 360 teams just because of this tricky and unorthodox hardware. The good thing is, Sony has heard the gripes (if this were the PS2 glory days they would've just told them to eff off) and are spending lots of resources trying to improve their tools/libraries ASAP unlike before where the 3rd parties had to fend for themselves in the first couple years. I doubt a PS3 kit will ever be as easy to work with as the 360 kits but the delta is being narrowed. We can see lazy graphics development on the 360 side as well (cough *Halo 3* cough)
Now back to our regularly scheduled PS3 game release discussions ;)

[itsjed]

do you guys think a preorder of the 40gb package is necessary if i want to pick it up on launch?
i didn't think so, but was surprised to see a number of retail stores taking preorders.

[Calmuser]

can somebody tell me why I see no picture on my Dell LCD monitor (2005fpw)?

I am using a DVI cable and a have DVI to HDMI adapter connecting to the back of the PS3.

I use the same wire and connections with my HDTV LCD but no picture shows when I try to connect to the Dell Monitor.

cause the ps3 won't run on the 2005fpw, I tried every which way to get it to work. For one its not HDCP certified.

[theprodigy]

I enjoy watching people getting all worked up in an argument, so here is some entertaining read. Some of the best parts are in the comments section :cheesygri

Former Harmonix employee and one-time PlayStation 3 developer Jason Booth has posted a harsh evaluation of Sony's latest console, the PS3

http://jbooth.blogspot.com/2007/10/ps3-misconceptions-and-spin.html

His reasoning seems kind of flawed to me now that we can see the PS3 capabilities from games like R&C, GT5, and uncharted. From his comments, he makes it that the ps3 should be the same as xbox, which I don't think was the intentions of sony in the first place. Just seems like a bunch of excuses since they couldn't get games working the way they want to. Maybe that's why he was a "former Harmonix employee". lol Harmonix does have successful franchises though...with this motivation, they'll figure it out at some point.

[AlphaTwo]

His reasoning seems kind of flawed to me now that we can see the PS3 capabilities from games like R&C, GT5, and uncharted.
As mentioned by him: The First Party Sony Funded games are the exception. All the onces you listed are Sony First Party. In fact, I dare to say that until MGS4 shows up, the key PS3 titles that really shows off the system have all been first party sony funded games.

[theprodigy]

As mentioned by him: The First Party Sony Funded games are the exception. All the onces you listed are Sony First Party. In fact, I dare to say that until MGS4 shows up, the key PS3 titles that really shows off the system have all been first party sony funded games.

But it is possible for third parties, right? When he mentions the hardware limitations, it seems as if he's saying that ps3 games will never be as good as 360 games visually. And many of his comments saying how development needs to be catered specifically to the ps3 in order to achieve quality results, seems like an excuse of being lazy to me. I dunno...he might be right, it just makes me skeptical when there are glimpses of successful development out there right now.

[BigBadBoo]

But it is possible for third parties, right? When he mentions the hardware limitations, it seems as if he's saying that ps3 games will never be as good as 360 games visually. And many of his comments saying how development needs to be catered specifically to the ps3 in order to achieve quality results, seems like an excuse of being lazy to me. I dunno...he might be right, it just makes me skeptical when there are glimpses of successful development out there right now.

Why do you 'armchair wannabe experts' say that these guys are being lazy? Do you really think he is making up BS, and for what gain? All he is saying is that the hyped up PS3 is not that powerful as its made out to be, nor is it that much a leap from the 360s hardware. He is basically dispelling some fanboy myths.

Now given a 3rd party developer makes a title for multiple consoles, it is obvious that the PS3 version will take up more resources just because of the tools and the hardware design. No one should disregard that, nor start calling developers lazy when they complain.

It is ignorant to call out the guys who are actually developing on these platforms lazy when they are just stating their experiences. If your company licensed a new Internet browser software, and it takes more effort (more of YOUR time) to use it, would you not complain to your company and others about it? Does it make you lazy because you prefer using IE or Firefox?

These game developers work OVERTIME for FREE, because that is how just the industry is. If I had to spend a weekend getting something for the PS3 working, and the 360's version of it didn't, you can bet I will be annoyed.

[AlphaTwo]

But it is possible for third parties, right? When he mentions the hardware limitations, it seems as if he's saying that ps3 games will never be as good as 360 games visually. And many of his comments saying how development needs to be catered specifically to the ps3 in order to achieve quality results, seems like an excuse of being lazy to me. I dunno...he might be right, it just makes me skeptical when there are glimpses of successful development out there right now.Yes. It's possible, but will they spend the time? Console development has always been for the lowest common denominator. It doesn't matter your platform is more powerful, if it's awkward to program for, and there is no userbase, few third parties will try. Just look at the Gamecube back then: On paper, and in technical terms, the GC was way beyond what the PS2 can pull, and some of the top notch titles almost matched Xbox quality, and even up to now some Wii games still can't match, but did that matter to third parties? Nope. Is spending more time just trying to write your rendering engine so that it runs "almost the same" worth it? It's a huge cost-benefit analysis. And I'm sure publishers have more say than anything about where you spend your time.

It's the same argument about shoddy PS2/PSP ports on the Wii. It's been said by a few devs that Publishers aren't willing to pay for graphics, period. I won't be surprised it's the same for 360 -> PS3.

[theprodigy]

Yes, my point is that it is possible. Whether or not they are willing to spend the resources on it is a different story. But from what I was getting from reading the post was that, from a technical standpoint, he was not able to do the things that he wanted to because of the unique architecture of the system. And such a foreign experience may turn him away from developing for the system. Like I said, we've already seen a couple of games that utilize such potential.

[CFRTim]

Fanboys can say what they want, but we heard this story from way too many game developers (there’ll be more to come, but some will just put up with it). And it’s not an argument about which system is more powerful, but the time and resources they spend on one to match the other’s performance. And in this business, like any other, time and resources will cost you, and will determine who is successful (profitable).

Sony let their hardware be designed by a comity of business interests rather than a well thought out design that would serve the game development community. They are going to loose hard this round because of it, and I hope that in the next round they take lessons from this round and produce a more balanced and usable gaming machine.

[jeffyjaixx]

Here are the latest Japanese console hardware sales for the week of October 15 - 21, 2007:

1. NDS Lite - 70,608 [5,724,448]
2. PSP - 58,669 [2,066,468]
3. Wii - 24,932 [2,760,665]
4. PlayStation 3 - 17,130 [752,425]
5. PlayStation 2 - 10,281 [627,823]
6. Xbox 360 - 3,011 [161,508]
7. GBA SP - 130 [21,175]
8. GB Micro - 118 [26,710]
9. GameCube - 48 [10,021]

The Wii is still doing decent numbers, but the PS3 has really picked up, and it's looking more like a close race. The PS3 is also in line to overtake the Wii week-on-week next week or the one after.

Has the Wii bubble burst? Are Wiis still scarce there? Or has the PS3's run of bad sales just come to the end to put some competition back in the game? Will Wii-Fit put the Wii back at the top again?

Either way, the Japanese sales charts are starting to have more worth looking at and speculating on, after a year of almost identical weekly results.

Here's software:
- Here are the latest Japanese console software sales for the week of October 15 - 21, 2007:

1. Seaman 2: Peking Genjin Ikusei Kit (PS2, Sega) - 32,798
2. DS Bungaku Zenshuu (NDS, Nintendo) - 32,438
3. Dragon Ball Z: Sparking Meteor (PS2, Bandai Namco) - 20,467 [271,000]
4. Kyoto Atami Zekkai no Kotou - Satsui no Wana (NDS, Tecmo) - 19,982 [81,000]
5. Gundam Battle Chronicle (PSP, Bandai Namco) - 19,472 [133,000]
6. Pokemon Fushigi no Dungeon: Toki no Tankentai (NDS, Nintendo) - 19,462 [521,000]
7. Beautiful Katamari Damacy (X360, Bandai Namco) - 18,935
8. Pokemon Fushigi no Dungeon: Yami no Tankentai (NDS, Nintendo) - 16,248 [457,000]
9. Miru Chikara o Jissen de Kitaeru: DS Ganryoku Training (NDS, Nintendo) - 15,425 [646,000]
10. Banushi Life Game: Winners Circle (NDS, Genki) - 14,774
11. KanKen DS 2 + Jouyou Kanji Jiten (NDS, Rocket Co.)
12. Wii Sports (Wii, Nintendo)
13. Tamagotchi no Puchi Puchi Omisecchi: Mina San Kyu (NDS, Bandai Namco)
14. Galaxy Angel II: Mugen Kairou no Kagi (PS2, Konami)
15. Mario Party 8 (Wii, Nintendo)
16. Taiko no Tatsujin DS (NDS, Bandai Namco)
17. Mario Kart DS (NDS, Nintendo)
18. Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII (PSP, Square Enix)
19. Ta****en: Ta****e 10 ni Suru Monogatari (NDS, Nintendo)
20. New Super Mario Bros. (NDS, Nintendo)


PS3 starting to pick up but with the release of Mario Galaxy next week will it last?

[maebach]

Why do you 'armchair wannabe experts' say that these guys are being lazy? Do you really think he is making up BS, and for what gain? All he is saying is that the hyped up PS3 is not that powerful as its made out to be, nor is it that much a leap from the 360s hardware. He is basically dispelling some fanboy myths.

Now given a 3rd party developer makes a title for multiple consoles, it is obvious that the PS3 version will take up more resources just because of the tools and the hardware design. No one should disregard that, nor start calling developers lazy when they complain.

It is ignorant to call out the guys who are actually developing on these platforms lazy when they are just stating their experiences. If your company licensed a new Internet browser software, and it takes more effort (more of YOUR time) to use it, would you not complain to your company and others about it? Does it make you lazy because you prefer using IE or Firefox?

These game developers work OVERTIME for FREE, because that is how just the industry is. If I had to spend a weekend getting something for the PS3 working, and the 360's version of it didn't, you can bet I will be annoyed.

love how you always post negative things. you jump in, post, and never come back.

[rahzel]

As mentioned by him: The First Party Sony Funded games are the exception. All the onces you listed are Sony First Party. In fact, I dare to say that until MGS4 shows up, the key PS3 titles that really shows off the system have all been first party sony funded games.
what about Infinity Ward and CoD4, Bethesda and Oblivion, Capcom with DMC4, Codemasters and DiRT, Sega and Rally Revolution and VF5, Epic with UT3... there are many third party titles that look great on PS3 and they keep improving as time goes on and they get used to the PS3.

[AlphaTwo]

what about Infinity Ward and CoD4, Bethesda and Oblivion, Capcom with DMC4, Codemasters and DiRT, Sega and Rally Revolution and VF5, Epic with UT3... there are many third party titles that look great on PS3 and they keep improving as time goes on and they get used to the PS3.I'm not arguing that they look great, but notice that the majority of these games often comes out later on the PS3? I think with Sony's talk of how great the hardware is, we all had a raised expectation of what the PS3 should do, and right now, just keeping up with the 360 on a visual level doesn't cut it with some people. And if what he said was right, that it's an actual challenge just to keep multiplatform releases looking similar, then you have to wonder that as time goes on, who's going to spend the money and delay games just so that the PS3 will have the graphical edge over similar title on the 360.

[rahzel]

I'm not arguing that they look great, but notice that the majority of these games often comes out later on the PS3? I think with Sony's talk of how great the hardware is, we all had a raised expectation of what the PS3 should do, and right now, just keeping up with the 360 on a visual level doesn't cut it with some people. And if what he said was right, that it's an actual challenge just to keep multiplatform releases looking similar, then you have to wonder that as time goes on, who's going to spend the money and delay games just so that the PS3 will have the graphical edge over similar title on the 360.
theres no question the PS3 is more difficult to develop for and its not as great as Sony hyped it out to be. but that guys article makes it sound like multiplatform titles will continue to look inferior on ps3, but really, the PS3 is at least as powerful as the 360.

most of the games that have been delayed used the Unreal Engine 3 (Vegas, Stranglehold, UT3 itself). this is the first time most developers are making games for the PS3... they need time to optimize their engines for the PS3, once thats done, its a lot easier of a process for their next title. also, Sony just released their improved development tools this year (Edge), so games actually using those tools won't show up until next year. as sfu lifer said, Sony is also helping third party developers out (Ubisoft with Assassins Creed, Epic with UT3 for example).

next year, my guess is multiplatform titles will look identical on 360/PS3 and well see some great looking third party titles late 2008.

[BigBadBoo]

love how you always post negative things. you jump in, post, and never come back.

Oh sorry, I guess you weren't here when I used to argue back and forth a while back. It was pointless to do so anyway.

I didn't post anything negative in that post. I explained the situation more clearly. All PS3 fanboys think that some one is always attacking their precious machine whenever anyone criticizes the PS3 with good reasons.

[rdtx2002]

Why do you 'armchair wannabe experts' say that these guys are being lazy? Do you really think he is making up BS, and for what gain? All he is saying is that the hyped up PS3 is not that powerful as its made out to be, nor is it that much a leap from the 360s hardware. He is basically dispelling some fanboy myths.

and yet those same developers claim that the Ps3 is the most advanced machine out there and the 'leap' from the 360 is just around the corner..

[rdtx2002]

love how you always post negative things. you jump in, post, and never come back.

don't mind BigBadBoo.. he has an inflated ego because he says he is a developer and anyone that talks development without technical background in that area are idiots.

[BigBadBoo]

don't mind BigBadBoo.. he has an inflated ego because he says he is a developer and anyone that talks development without technical background in that area are idiots.

The only way I can ever get you to not knock my post every time is to say how awesome PS3 is, and how ****** MS is...

I'll be buying a PS3 this xmas, and plan to enjoy it to the full extent...I'm serious. First game I get is Uncharted :cheesygri

[sfu_lifer]

After playing with the Playstation Eye, I'm a bit disappointed. I've fooled around with the Video editing software and quite a bit with Eye of Judgment.
On less than average lighting, it sucks bad. I can't believe some people said this can be a "waggle beater" (i.e. superior to the Wiimote).
No way. I'm not seeing the leaps and bounds over the first Eye Toy. It's a higher res Eye Toy with an omnidirectional mic. I don't see why they won't enable the first Eye Toy with the video editing software, I'm sure it can do almost as well.
Actually rdtx, if you look at those same developers who bitched about the PS3 hype not being met, they'll also be the same ones saying the PS3 WON'T be a big leap over the 360, just a step above. The results are bearing out on that so far. Regardless, I think the PS3 is a good buy at $399. Bluray, more than double the usable HD space (360 20GB is 13GB available only) and wifi built in.
If the PS3 ends up being at the same graphical level as the 360 by the end of this gen, who cares really so long as you've enjoyed the games. I don't trust company PR but I don't mind egging them when they make absurd statements that eventually fall flat on their face :cheesygri .

[AlphaTwo]

If the PS3 ends up being at the same graphical level as the 360 by the end of this gen, who cares really so long as you've enjoyed the games.Best, and only thing that should be really said.

It's all about the games, and I'm sure way too many people goes weak for MGS4. Like me.

I've debated about not opening my PS3 for a whole week after buying. I think I'm going to open it now.

[rdtx2002]

The only way I can ever get you to not knock my post every time is to say how awesome PS3 is, and how ****** MS is...

I'll be buying a PS3 this xmas, and plan to enjoy it to the full extent...I'm serious. First game I get is Uncharted :cheesygri

better add Ratchet and Clank too.

[rdtx2002]

After playing with the Playstation Eye, I'm a bit disappointed. I've fooled around with the Video editing software and quite a bit with Eye of Judgment.
On less than average lighting, it sucks bad. I can't believe some people said this can be a "waggle beater" (i.e. superior to the Wiimote).
No way. I'm not seeing the leaps and bounds over the first Eye Toy. It's a higher res Eye Toy with an omnidirectional mic. I don't see why they won't enable the first Eye Toy with the video editing software, I'm sure it can do almost as well.
Actually rdtx, if you look at those same developers who bitched about the PS3 hype not being met, they'll also be the same ones saying the PS3 WON'T be a big leap over the 360, just a step above. The results are bearing out on that so far. Regardless, I think the PS3 is a good buy at $399. Bluray, more than double the usable HD space (360 20GB is 13GB available only) and wifi built in.
If the PS3 ends up being at the same graphical level as the 360 by the end of this gen, who cares really so long as you've enjoyed the games. I don't trust company PR but I don't mind egging them when they make absurd statements that eventually fall flat on their face :cheesygri .

there will always be developers that are will get the best out of the systems capabilities and some that won't IMO.

For me, give me GT5, Ratchet and Clank and some RPGs and i'm set.

[GunnerX]

there will always be developers that are will get the best out of the systems capabilities and some that won't IMO.

For me, give me GT5, Ratchet and Clank and some RPGs and i'm set.

Shouldn't you get a PS3 first?

[CFRTim]

Shouldn't you get a PS3 first?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[maebach]

Shouldn't you get a PS3 first?

owned

[marcopolo85]

omg RDTX2002 doesnt have a ps3!? The way you talk about sony/ps3/blu-ray i thought for sure you had a ps3. RDTX2002 go out and buy one already!

[BigBadBoo]

better add Ratchet and Clank too.

not a fan of cartoony platformers...kinda grew out of that :p

I just want PS3 for the Blu-ray really, the only sure way I would get a PS3 is if I could get a good deal on it or it has a game I would really want.

[BigBadBoo]

Shouldn't you get a PS3 first?

LOL he isn't the only one. A lot of the PS3 advocates don't even have a PS3...

:D

[skule123]

I just wanted to be clear on the nature of the logic here.

To post in the PS3 thread, you have to own a PS3 to have a valid opinion? Or is it that you can only post positively about the PS3 if you own one, but that the same ownership condition is negated if you post negatively about the PS3?

If this is the case, why? Rest assured that I own one of each console, so I am apparently able to speak freely about each of them. :)

[zerocool24]

I just wanted to be clear on the rule you guys are going about here.

To post in the PS3 thread, you have to own a PS3 to have a valid opinion?

Or is it that you can only post positively about the PS3 if you own one, but that the same ownership condition is negated if you post negatively about the PS3?

If this is the case, why?

no you dont need to own one, but there are some people that post as though the ps3 is the greatest thing since sliced bread, I know rdtx says he has onwed 1 or 2 in the past but sold them (which i dont understand since he praises the system so highly) Its pretty much just fanboyism at its best.

[BigBadBoo]

I just wanted to be clear on the nature of the logic here.

To post in the PS3 thread, you have to own a PS3 to have a valid opinion? Or is it that you can only post positively about the PS3 if you own one, but that the same ownership condition is negated if you post negatively about the PS3?

If this is the case, why? Rest assured that I own one of each console, so I am apparently able to speak freely about each of them. :)


No, that is not the case. Some of the guys on here hold the PS3 in such high esteem, and will flame you if you post anything remotely negative about it. Now we just find it amusing that some of those people don't actually have one themselves.

I really don't care which console people like, but it is pretty funny when some people make some outrageous claims (see Jon Lai) or accept Sony's (or insert MS/Nintendo) marketting BS as facts.

[icecold2021]

just finished rachet & clank. if you have a ps3, GET THIS GAME.

[Waiwai]

just finished rachet & clank. if you have a ps3, GET THIS GAME.

Same here, pretty lengthy game! Playing in Challenge mode now (new weapon level limits although you need to buy them again, unlimited groovitron for 2,000,000 raritium....).

[icecold2021]

Same here, pretty lengthy game! Playing in Challenge mode now (new weapon level limits although you need to buy them again, unlimited groovitron for 2,000,000 raritium....).

im selling my copy, as much as its an awesome game i cant play through a game twice in one week. (although i did do that with gears)

i plan to play through it again on challenge mode maybe in a few months when i can pick it up for 20$

[jeffyjaixx]

Man, I want Heavenly Sword and Ratchet but no $$$ lol.

Have to wait till they drop down to ~$40 ish.

[Badman]

just picked up ratchet and clank and played for about an hour and this truly is the best game to own for the ps3 right now.

I know the disk has that installation bug but did they fix it already or was it only on some copies because i never ran into that problem. Good for me as i got to play right away:D

[sfu_lifer]

The installation bug was only for specific free space on some people's HDs.
Not everyone was affected. They never did say wha those problem sizes were.

Anyhow, has anyone bought GH3 for PS3 and tried the guitar out on the PS2 versions? I might buy it if it works for BC.

[joshmxpx]

Shouldn't you get a PS3 first?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

owned

omg RDTX2002 doesnt have a ps3!? The way you talk about sony/ps3/blu-ray i thought for sure you had a ps3. RDTX2002 go out and buy one already!

LOL he isn't the only one. A lot of the PS3 advocates don't even have a PS3...

:D

no response i guess?

[Deals Deals Deals]

Anyone getting Call of Duty 4? It's coming out soon.

[BigBadBoo]

Anyone getting Call of Duty 4? It's coming out soon.

Debating whether to get the PC or the console version. Anyone know which would be better? Leaning towards console...

[maebach]

Gh3 got great reviews, but Im still gonna hold of until rock band. I just hope rock band doesnt turn out to be terrible.

[ashs]

i have COD 4 pre-ordered, cant wait to get it.

[Musiq Soulchild]

Anyone know how long Ratchet & Clank is? In terms of hours and how many levels there are.

Thanks

[sfu_lifer]

Gh3 got great reviews, but Im still gonna hold of until rock band. I just hope rock band doesnt turn out to be terrible.

ZERO chance of that (unless you don't care for their songlist). This is Harmonix we're talking about here. Unlike with Guitar Hero, Red Octane wasn't involved in anything other than picking out the songs and aping the guitar peripheral from Konami's Guitar Freaks.
I picked up Guitar Hero for the Wii. I don't trust Red Octane. They did a stupid thing with the non-bluetooth wireless guitar this year. I think they'll go bluetooth next year that's PS2 Guitar Hero games compatible (for a cheaper price) so I'll wait for that guitar version.

[rahzel]

Anyone know how long Ratchet & Clank is? In terms of hours and how many levels there are.

Thanks
dunno how many levels, but i'd say the average length of the game is ~12 hours on the default mode. you get to keep all your goodies when you play the challenge mode.

as for CoD4, i was really excited for this, but i heard the SP campaign is only 5-6 hours. i'm probably in the minority here, but the SP is at least as important as the online. i'm still probably buying it, but i might not get it on day 1 with other great games coming out around the same time.
all previews have said all 3 versions look virtually identical. both console versions run at 60fps. so its up to you whether you prefer gamepad or kb/m. or if you don't have your PC connected to your HDTV, if you prefer to play it on your monitor or your HDTV with surround sound. personally, i'm getting the PS3 version.

[rdtx2002]

not a fan of cartoony platformers...kinda grew out of that :p

I just want PS3 for the Blu-ray really, the only sure way I would get a PS3 is if I could get a good deal on it or it has a game I would really want.

no one outgrows platformers ;) but i did outgrow the Mario ones.

if you are interested in Bluray, you'd might as well get the PS3 since it's really a all-in-one box

[rdtx2002]

LOL he isn't the only one. A lot of the PS3 advocates don't even have a PS3...

:D

I have a 80gb now thank you very much.

[rdtx2002]

no you dont need to own one, but there are some people that post as though the ps3 is the greatest thing since sliced bread, I know rdtx says he has onwed 1 or 2 in the past but sold them (which i dont understand since he praises the system so highly) Its pretty much just fanboyism at its best.

If you can sell 1 for profit why not? I sold a 60gb at launch for 150% profit, bought another 60gb which I gave it to family members and now I have an 80GB

what does fanboyism have to do with all this? Just because I'm not able to keep my launch Ps3?

get a life boys.

[rdtx2002]

No, that is not the case. Some of the guys on here hold the PS3 in such high esteem, and will flame you if you post anything remotely negative about it. Now we just find it amusing that some of those people don't actually have one themselves.

just for the record, i only flame you because of your ego trip in regards to Carmack ;)

I really don't care which console people like, but it is pretty funny when some people make some outrageous claims (see Jon Lai) or accept Sony's (or insert MS/Nintendo) marketting BS as facts.

Jon Lai is a pure fanboy, no question about it.

[rdtx2002]

no response i guess?

you sure love to quote quotes that are ages ago.

[rdtx2002]

Anyone know how long Ratchet & Clank is? In terms of hours and how many levels there are.

Thanks

I have not purchased my copy of R&C but if the previous versions are any indication, you will get a good 15 hours out of it. if you really want to max everything out and complete all challenges, add another 10

[Mgz]

Jon Lai is a pure fanboy, no question about it.

hey don't make personal attack about my hero. The Jon Lai and PS3 defender task force is coming to the rescue !

according to next-gen.biz http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7672&Itemid=2

In Q2, Sony sold 1.31 million PlayStation 3s and 10.3 million PS3 software units globally, not a bad number tbh. PS2 is still going strong with 3.28 million sales and a massive 38 million game sales, and it also sold 2.58mils PSP console and 12.6 million games for the system (not many people buy stuff to play on PSP I guess? Maybe they all run homebrew system and watch Main Profile AVC movie, which beat ipod hand down)

[rdtx2002]

hey don't make personal attack about my hero. The Jon Lai and PS3 defender task force is coming to the rescue !

according to next-gen.biz http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7672&Itemid=2

In Q2, Sony sold 1.31 million PlayStation 3s and 10.3 million PS3 software units globally, not a bad number tbh. PS2 is still going strong with 3.28 million sales and a massive 38 million game sales, and it also sold 2.58mils PSP console and 12.6 million games for the system (not many people buy stuff to play on PSP I guess? Maybe they all run homebrew system and watch Main Profile AVC movie, which beat ipod hand down)

lol.. the PS3 defender task force

nice tie ratio for Q2 in terms of software/hardware

[rahzel]

http://jbooth.blogspot.com/2007/10/ps3-misconceptions-and-spin.html
discussion regarding this blog post at beyond3d.
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=45041

basically, he doesn't really know what hes talking about. yes the fact remains that the ps3 is more difficult to develop for, but hes just another Gabe Newell (aka multicore hater).

[rollen]

just wondering what do you guys use to clean the dust of this friggin dust-magnet?

[maebach]

Gh3 is so tempting. . .



But anyways, I ahve this cloth that cleans lenses (glasses). YOu should be able to get it for fre at like a Hakim optical or something.

[rdtx2002]

just wondering what do you guys use to clean the dust of this friggin dust-magnet?

microfibre

[sfu_lifer]

I don't clean mine at all :lol:

[GunnerX]

Swiffer Dusters works great.

[marcopolo85]

Just use your sleeve.

[awestruck]

A few bursts of compressed air should do the trick.

[Shuzzy]

i don't have time to read through the whole thread, so would someone tell me if the 40gb version is still gonna hit stores this friday, nov.2nd? thanks.

[CFRTim]

i don't have time to read through the whole thread, so would someone tell me if the 40gb version is still gonna hit stores this friday, nov.2nd? thanks.
Yup, plus:

The new 40GB PS3s will make use of the shrinkafied 65nm Cell processor. What that means, according to the site, is that the PS3 will run quieter and cooler and that it will now consumer just 135 watts, down from 200.
While I've never had a problem with PS3 overheating, it is nice to know that running the thing will cost me a bit less and that, perhaps, that overdrive exhaust fan will kick in a bit less frequently.

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/sony/40gb-ps3-uses-a-smaller-chipset-316710.php

[Mgz]

Yup, plus:

The new 40GB PS3s will make use of the shrinkafied 65nm Cell processor. What that means, according to the site, is that the PS3 will run quieter and cooler and that it will now consumer just 135 watts, down from 200.
While I've never had a problem with PS3 overheating, it is nice to know that running the thing will cost me a bit less and that, perhaps, that overdrive exhaust fan will kick in a bit less frequently.

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/sony/40gb-ps3-uses-a-smaller-chipset-316710.php

this is good, requires less electricity to operate :D , go green! go tree-hugers :D

also good for the crazy folder F@H one who probably has dozens of PS3 running 24/7. Or even 1 PS3 24/7 can hurt the bill too.

[sfu_lifer]

GRR. Singstar delayed. "A little bit" means way longer than a few weeks if they don't give a date. WTF. I mean seriously, the PS2 games have been out for ages. I don't fully buy the "licensing issues." :evil:
Release the base game then patch it up when your download store is ready. Grr. This game is one of THE major reasons why I bought a PS3 early, the previews have been good from the very beginning of the PS3 demos and that the game would likely release early.

[Emancipated]

this is good, requires less electricity to operate :D , go green! go tree-hugers :D

also good for the crazy folder F@H one who probably has dozens of PS3 running 24/7. Or even 1 PS3 24/7 can hurt the bill too.

Nice. I would trade an old PS3 for one of those considering how the PS3 is also a Linux supercomputer. And it's tree HUGGER! Guess you don't use that term a lot with all that endless supply of oil in your back yard!

[xjohnx]

http://www.konami.jp/topics/2007/1031_1/index-e.html

[jeffyjaixx]

http://www.konami.jp/topics/2007/1031_1/index-e.html

I'll be pissed if they delay it again because the trailer showed end of 2007... :mad:

[CFRTim]

http://www.konami.jp/topics/2007/1031_1/index-e.html

WTF is this supposed to mean:

Konami has decided to delay the title's release in order to provide even greater enjoyment for more customers worldwide.

1. Having problems developing on the PS3 (that's a shocker :eek: )
2. Going multi-platform

[Mgz]

I'll be pissed if they delay it again because the trailer showed end of 2007... :mad:

delay = good, look at blizzard

and no this has nothing to do with Nuke Dukem Forever sumthing

[joshmxpx]

WTF is this supposed to mean:

Konami has decided to delay the title's release in order to provide even greater enjoyment for more customers worldwide.

1. Having problems developing on the PS3 (that's a shocker :eek: )
2. Going multi-platform

probably means they will launch it at the same time in all regions, instead of delaying like they usually do for uk and others.

most likely won't be multiplatform, unless sony really wants some trouble with console sales, as a lot of ps3 owners are defending its lack of games using this specific one as a comeback.

[jeffyjaixx]

WTF is this supposed to mean:

Konami has decided to delay the title's release in order to provide even greater enjoyment for more customers worldwide.

1. Having problems developing on the PS3 (that's a shocker :eek: )
2. Going multi-platform

Hideo Kojima has said it again and again it's PS3 exclusive. (at least from him)

[AlphaTwo]

Hideo Kojima has said it again and again it's PS3 exclusive. (at least from him)Reminds me of Resident Evil 4:
the company later confirmed that not all the Resident Evil series games were actually exclusive to the console, with the exception of Resident Evil 4. Shinji Mikami, in an interview with a Japanese magazine, claimed that he would "cut [his own] head off" if Resident Evil 4 came to the PlayStation 2.

Mikami's head, still resting on his sholders right now.

[jeeva86]

Yup, plus:

The new 40GB PS3s will make use of the shrinkafied 65nm Cell processor. What that means, according to the site, is that the PS3 will run quieter and cooler and that it will now consumer just 135 watts, down from 200.
While I've never had a problem with PS3 overheating, it is nice to know that running the thing will cost me a bit less and that, perhaps, that overdrive exhaust fan will kick in a bit less frequently.

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/sony/40gb-ps3-uses-a-smaller-chipset-316710.php

wow, down to 135 from 200..that's a big difference..my PS3 is constantly running that loud fan...

[wpooh888]

http://avspics.blogspot.com/

[rahzel]

saw those on avsforum a few days ago... amazing.

Sony has their new ad campaigns posted on their blog as well as a new Uncharted trailer.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/

[sfu_lifer]

saw those on avsforum a few days ago... amazing.

Sony has their new ad campaigns posted on their blog as well as a new Uncharted trailer.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/

Anything's better than their ******** old PS3 (and what little PSP push they did) ad campaign. Somebody should've been fired for wasting all those marketing dollars.

[BD006]

Anything's better than their ******** old PS3 (and what little PSP push they did) ad campaign. Somebody should've been fired for wasting all those marketing dollars.

You mean the ones with the egg/crows, Rubix cube and that extremely disturbing, possessed baby doll? :lol:

[maebach]

I liked the PS3 MLB 07 commercial

[jeffyjaixx]

http://videogamerx.gamedonga.co.kr/zbxe/files/attach/images/699943/753575/01.jpg

http://videogamerx.gamedonga.co.kr/zbxe/files/attach/images/699943/753575/02.jpg

http://videogamerx.gamedonga.co.kr/zbxe/files/attach/images/699943/753575/03.jpg

http://videogamerx.gamedonga.co.kr/zbxe/files/attach/images/699943/753575/04.jpg

http://videogamerx.gamedonga.co.kr/zbxe/files/attach/images/699943/753575/05.jpg

[marcopolo85]

^^^ WOW looks amazing, cant wait.


Anyone try the NFS Pro Street? I thought it was ok.... Ill probably rent it.

Ill save my money for burnout.

[Sohjonn]

sorry if this has been asked before, but will COD4 support Keyboard and mouse?

[maebach]

^^^ WOW looks amazing, cant wait.


Anyone try the NFS Pro Street? I thought it was ok.... Ill probably rent it.

Ill save my money for burnout.

Ive always thought Burnout>NFS

[sfu_lifer]

^^^ WOW looks amazing, cant wait.


Bullshots (i.e. CG) according to Blimm of gamersy so don't get your hopes up the gameplay will look like this :D
I can't wait for another FF. I should prolly finish FFXII first :lol:

[rdtx2002]

Reminds me of Resident Evil 4:


Mikami's head, still resting on his sholders right now.

perhaps.. but RE4 is on the king of multiplatform milking, Capcom

[maebach]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7074547.stm

Congrats to all the Folders!
A project that uses Sony's PS3 to understand the cause of diseases is recognised by Guinness World Records.

Kind of makes me feel better about leaving my PS3 on now (while running FaH).

[zerocool24]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7074547.stm

Congrats to all the Folders!


Kind of makes me feel better about leaving my PS3 on now (while running FaH).

yah i have left my ps3 on 24/7 since i bought it in may, and that was one of the big selling points for me, i also have 3 pcs on 24/7 running it.

[joshmxpx]

yah i have left my ps3 on 24/7 since i bought it in may, and that was one of the big selling points for me, i also have 3 pcs on 24/7 running it.

good for f@h, but bad for the environment.

[marcopolo85]

Wow i just received some stuff from sony for becomming a GAP member via snail mail. I got a Sony T-shirt with the Square, triangle, circle and X symbols on it. Also got a GAP card with my full name on it and one for my keychain. Pretty cool

[pgfreak]

Wow i just received some stuff from sony for becomming a GAP member via snail mail. I got a Sony T-shirt with the Square, triangle, circle and X symbols on it. Also got a GAP card with my full name on it and one for my keychain. Pretty cool

how did u become a GAP member?




What game should i preorder for ps3!??!
1. COD 4
2. Assasins creed/
or 3. need for speed?!

[joshmxpx]

What game should i preorder for ps3!??!
1. COD 4
2. Assasins creed/
or 3. need for speed?!

ac > cod4 > nfs

[pgfreak]

ac > cod4 > nfs

AC looks awesome, but COD4 multiplayer looks funnnn

[bmaz]

PS2 To See New SKU In 2008 (http://www.trustedreviews.com/gaming/news/2007/11/02/PS2-To-See-New-SKU-In-2008/p1).
Redesigned model boasts built-in power supply; 25 per cent price drop likely

Question is, is this good news or bad news for the PS3?

[pgfreak]

PS2 To See New SKU In 2008 (http://www.trustedreviews.com/gaming/news/2007/11/02/PS2-To-See-New-SKU-In-2008/p1).


Question is, is this good news or bad news for the PS3?

dont think it will make a difference in the long run since ps2 games will stop being made later on in 2008 i believe

[marcopolo85]

how did u become a GAP member?


http://www.us.playstation.com/
sign up to playstation underground make sure you register all your sony products eventually you will get an email asking to become a member of the Gamer Advisory Panel.


What game should i preorder for ps3!??!
1. COD 4
2. Assasins creed/
or 3. need for speed?!

Either COD4 or AC, wait for the review.

[jeffyjaixx]

"I'm more impressed with the hardware the longer we get to work with it. Imagining trying to develop Uncharted without the Blu-ray drive, without the hard drive, or without the Cell processor makes me wonder what kind of game we would have ended up with. It certainly would have required a lot more compromises than I would have been comfortable making. And much like the PS2, I think the longer developers work with the machine, the better the games are going to get. For instance we are only using approximately 1/3 of the processing power of the SPUs on the Cell processor in Uncharted."

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/832/832114p2.html

Interesting. Props to ND for their graphically impressive game.

[CFRTim]

"I'm more impressed with the hardware the longer we get to work with it. Imagining trying to develop Uncharted without the Blu-ray drive, without the hard drive, or without the Cell processor makes me wonder what kind of game we would have ended up with. It certainly would have required a lot more compromises than I would have been comfortable making. And much like the PS2, I think the longer developers work with the machine, the better the games are going to get. For instance we are only using approximately 1/3 of the processing power of the SPUs on the Cell processor in Uncharted."

Although I am impressed with some of the videos from this game, I’ve heard most of those stories before, from another game developer not long ago (Heavenly Blu-Ray), and we know the rest…..:rolleyes:

[jeffyjaixx]

Although I am impressed with some of the videos from this game, I’ve heard most of those stories before, from another a game developer not long ago (Heavenly Blu-Ray), and we know the rest…..:rolleyes:

You have to take this into consideration: ND is not just any developer... they are one of the best around and also, Heavenly Sword is a decent game and worth playing.

[CFRTim]

You have to take this into consideration: ND is not just any developer... they are one of the best around and also, Heavenly Sword is a decent game and worth playing.

Yeah, but is it worth buying?:cheesygri

[jeffyjaixx]

Yeah, but is it worth buying?:cheesygri

when it comes down to $39ish, I will buy it. ;)

[skule123]

Although I am impressed with some of the videos from this game, I’ve heard most of those stories before, from another game developer not long ago (Heavenly Blu-Ray), and we know the rest…..:rolleyes:

So if two game developers make similar comments regarding the platform on which they're developing, the quality of their games is also likely to be similar? That's a fascinating conclusion to reach.

If that's the case, why was Ratchet And Clank so great? Insomniac said all the same things.

[syn3sto]

sorry if this has been asked before, but will COD4 support Keyboard and mouse?

no it wont, but will still be one of the better games this year.

to the poster who asked what he should get.

get cod4.

[marcopolo85]

Ill prolly end up getting COD4 but ill wait for the reviews. Ill use that $10 off on amazon.ca since i wasnt able to get ratchet and clank.

[fatpig]

Is Oblivion GOTY edition in Canada yet? I still haven't seen it in any stores I've been to.

[Deals Deals Deals]

Is Oblivion GOTY edition in Canada yet? I still haven't seen it in any stores I've been to.

Yes, I saw it at Real Canadian Super Store, they had it for $70.

[airstar]

Sony says the 40GB PS3 is still using 90nm chips


http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/03/sony-says-the-40gb-ps3-is-still-using-90nm-chips/

[preelude]

5 copies of assassins creed spotted at walmart (argentia/winston churchill in mississauga)...

[Waiwai]

5 copies of assassins creed spotted at walmart (argentia/winston churchill in mississauga)...

Are you sure you aren't seeing the pre-order boxes? Seems a bit early for breaking street date.

[Rhettmatic]

I'm looking at getting a PlayStation 3 and I have a few beginner questions for you guys. Bear with me -- I know there's probably answers to these somewhere in this massive thread, but it's pretty tough to navigate.

1. What's the online network like? Is it easy to set up, easy to find games? Which games are best for online multiplayer?
2. I was planning on getting the 60-gig for backwards compatibility's sake. Are there any drawbacks to this, beside the smaller hard-drive (when compared to the 80)?
3. I was also planning on playing on an LCD computer monitor for the next year or so, until I can afford an HDTV. Has anyone else tried this? Any tips?
4. Finally, is there any way I can use my PS3 to play PS2 Guitar Hero games -- With my PS2 Guitar Hero guitars? Convoluted, I know. But I have two guitars, and it would be a shame to have to buy new ones.

Thanks in advance for helping out a PS3 newbie, guys.

[preelude]

Are you sure you aren't seeing the pre-order boxes? Seems a bit early for breaking street date.

probably were just empty boxes :)

[zydus]

I'm looking at getting a PlayStation 3 and I have a few beginner questions for you guys. Bear with me -- I know there's probably answers to these somewhere in this massive thread, but it's pretty tough to navigate.

1. What's the online network like? Is it easy to set up, easy to find games? Which games are best for online multiplayer?
2. I was planning on getting the 60-gig for backwards compatibility's sake. Are there any drawbacks to this, beside the smaller hard-drive (when compared to the 80)?
3. I was also planning on playing on an LCD computer monitor for the next year or so, until I can afford an HDTV. Has anyone else tried this? Any tips?
4. Finally, is there any way I can use my PS3 to play PS2 Guitar Hero games -- With my PS2 Guitar Hero guitars? Convoluted, I know. But I have two guitars, and it would be a shame to have to buy new ones.

Thanks in advance for helping out a PS3 newbie, guys.

1. Unlike xbox Live online network and gaming online is free. Every game has its own online mode (if the game supports it) and its made by the developers for the game. For online multiplayer warhawk is an amazing game and i've never found less than 300 - 400 servers online.

2. No, there are no drawbacks except the 60gig is hard to find especially brand new ones. If you are not planning on load movies etc on the hard drive itself and just install demos etc, 60gig is plenty of space. I stream all my movies from my computer using 'tversity'. PS3 can act as a media center by accessing shared media from computers on ur LAN.

3. I have done it b4 I could afford my HDTV. Make sure your monitor supports HDCP and buy a HDMI-to-DVI cable. Monoprice.com has some of the best deals.

4. I dont think you'll be able to play GH2 of PS2 on the PS3, but im not sure since i'm not into those games and have never looked into it.

[AlphaTwo]

4. I dont think you'll be able to play GH2 of PS2 on the PS3, but im not sure since i'm not into those games and have never looked into it.You need this:
http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?cookie%5Ftest=1&product_id=802566http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?cookie%5Ftest=1&product_id=802566

[zerocool24]

You need this:
http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?cookie%5Ftest=1&product_id=802566http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?cookie%5Ftest=1&product_id=802566

im not sure but i recall others in this thread stating that even with that they have issues with the ps2 guitars.

[SergesPlace]

Well, i finally tried playing a PS2 game (GT4) on the PS3 and all i can say is WOW! what a piece of shite! I can't believe there's so much talk in here about playing ps2 games on a ps3 when simply put it's just horrible. What a waste. If you've got a ps3 console stick to just playing ps3 games

[evozero]

Well, i finally tried playing a PS2 game (GT4) on the PS3 and all i can say is WOW! what a piece of shite! I can't believe there's so much talk in here about playing ps2 games on a ps3 when simply put it's just horrible. What a waste. If you've got a ps3 console stick to just playing ps3 games

it's not always about the graphics. the ps2 has tons of awesome games. I do however agree that the whole "40gb dosen't play ps2 games" has been blown out of proportion.

I just watched some gameplay videos and call of duty 4 looks incredible. given that is game is on par with the 360 version with free online means i'll be buying this at some point.

[SergesPlace]

it's not always about the graphics. the ps2 has tons of awesome games. I do however agree that the whole "40gb dosen't play ps2 games" has been blown out of proportion.

I just watched some gameplay videos and call of duty 4 looks incredible. given that is game is on par with the 360 version with free online means i'll be buying this at some point.

I'm sure there's lot's of great ps2 games but personally speaking if the graphics suck i'm simply not interested in playing any game. It's that important to me.

[marcopolo85]

Well, i finally tried playing a PS2 game (GT4) on the PS3 and all i can say is WOW! what a piece of shite! I can't believe there's so much talk in here about playing ps2 games on a ps3 when simply put it's just horrible. What a waste. If you've got a ps3 console stick to just playing ps3 games

I play ps2 games on my ps3 all the time and they look great other then the fact its in 4:3

[pgfreak]

I think the new Battlefield (bad company) will be better than COD4.
Online and all.

[sfu_lifer]

I think the new Battlefield (bad company) will be better than COD4.
Online and all.
I dunno. COD4 multiplayer online is a literal blast. Those are tough shoes to fill.

[sfu_lifer]

im not sure but i recall others in this thread stating that even with that they have issues with the ps2 guitars.
It's true. I haven't found an adapter yet that will allow me to play GH on the PS3 (PS2 versions) perfectly. And I've bought about 4 of them so far that claim to be "guitar hero compatible" but fall way way short of the mark.

[CFRTim]

I'm sure there's lot's of great ps2 games but personally speaking if the graphics suck i'm simply not interested in playing any game. It's that important to me.

+1. Why spend the money on a PS3 and HDTV to play "upconverted" PS2 games.

[neospice]

I'm all for graphics but in reality if it doesn't have good gameplay, the game will suck. Sometimes I boot up the old Nintendo 8 bit system just for some great gameplay on some classics. Graphics aren't everything.

[GunnerX]

+1. Why spend the money on a PS3 and HDTV to play "upconverted" PS2 games.

Because there's really nothing to play on the PS3 right now other than R&C. Which should be arriving today for me. :D

I have never owned any other PS systems previously so I'm catching up on PS2 games that I missed out on. God of War, God of War 2, Okami plus the Singstar series. It's the only way the PS3 gets some gameplay. :) I can't imagine how much less I would be playing the PS3 if it didn't have BC.

[Emancipated]

Because there's really nothing to play on the PS3 right now other than R&C. Which should be arriving today for me. :D

I have never owned any other PS systems previously so I'm catching up on PS2 games that I missed out on. God of War, God of War 2, Okami plus the Singstar series. It's the only way the PS3 gets some gameplay. :) I can't imagine how much less I would be playing the PS3 if it didn't have BC.

You should consider getting a PS2 Slim for $100 then. You're stressing the laser of the PS3.

[GunnerX]

You should consider getting a PS2 Slim for $100 then. You're stressing the laser of the PS3.

I don't have room for another system on my shelves. I highly doubt I'm "stressing" the laser at all. :lol: Maybe I should buy a separate Blu Ray player too to help relieve the stress even more. :D

[AlphaTwo]

I don't have room for another system on my shelves. I highly doubt I'm "stressing" the laser at all. :lol: Maybe I should buy a separate Blu Ray player too to help relieve the stress even more. :DAgreed.

I guess you should disable the Internet signal too, it stresses out the bandwidth to the motherboard.:lol:

[jeffyjaixx]

17 new Tekken screens. It's really coming along now.

http://www.tekken-official.jp/tk6ac/screenshot.html

http://www.tekken-official.jp/tk6ac/image/image_screenshots/tk6_01_179.jpg

http://www.tekken-official.jp/tk6ac/image/image_screenshots/tk6_01_182.jpg

http://www.tekken-official.jp/tk6ac/image/image_screenshots/tk6_01_189.jpg

[pgfreak]

I dunno. COD4 multiplayer online is a literal blast. Those are tough shoes to fill.

The basic layout of the online seems the same as COD4 .. but then add the destructible environments to the mix.. FUNNN aha

[ashs]

I'm torn between which to get :-S

[rollen]

I'm torn between which to get :-S

get both! :twisted:

[ashs]

get both! :twisted:

i may have too :-S lol

[maebach]

COD 4 got a great review from IGN.

[marcopolo85]

COD 4 got a great review from IGN.

COD 4 has been getting great reviews from just about every review. Some reviews that have reviewed both version(ps3 and 360) are saying the ps3 version edges out due to slightly better graphics.

[ashs]

picked up eye of judgement today, played it for 4 hours. the computer is tough but i won once. So far this is an amazing game. I got 2 ultra rare cards in my deck but one requires too much to summon :-S i got a few doubles as well (anyone interested in a trade maybe)?

[joshmxpx]

picked up eye of judgement today, played it for 4 hours. the computer is tough but i won once. So far this is an amazing game. I got 2 ultra rare cards in my deck but one requires too much to summon :-S i got a few doubles as well (anyone interested in a trade maybe)?

I read somewhere that you can easily print the cards off the net and the Eye will recognize them as valid cards. You might want to give that a try instead.

[Mgz]

Because there's really nothing to play on the PS3 right now other than R&C. Which should be arriving today for me. :D

.

you can always play that 5 Blue-ray ;)

[GunnerX]

you can always play that 5 Blue-ray ;)

Haha, I have way more than 5 Blu Rays. :D

http://www.invelos.com/dvdcollection.aspx/GunnerX

[jdmkidd]

anyone play COD 4 yet?

[Calmuser]

ahh finally someone to use my ps3 for instead of folding!

got my 5 free blu-rays finally!

[marcopolo85]

anyone play COD 4 yet?

gonna go pick it up today

[Musiq Soulchild]

ahh finally someone to use my ps3 for instead of folding!

got my 5 free blu-rays finally!


when did u order them?

[Calmuser]

when did u order them?

hmm about 4 weeks back.

[BD006]

Yeah, I just got mine yesterday after having sent in for them in mid-September. Not bad, about 6 weeks.

[mart242]

Is there an up to date of the exclusive titles coming to PS3 somewhere?

I jumped in on the dell 399$ deal with ratchet & clank but I'm having second doubts since I already have access to most of the games with my xbox 360 and wii... I don't have time for lengthy RPG, am not a fan of fighting games and don't care too much about multiplayer (or GT5!). A big plus would be the ones with co-op mode like Lego star wars, baldur's gate and fallout: brotherhood of steel..

[rahzel]

someone made this list at avsforum.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=858296
i would at least give it a shot. R&C is a great game so thats a good start.

[mart242]

someone made this list at avsforum.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=858296
i would at least give it a shot. R&C is a great game so thats a good start.

Thanks. Yeah, R&C looks awesome according to all the reviews and it's what convinced me to buy one. Plus, I want to see what high def DVDs look like and my local rogers now has bluray / HD-DVD. Watch this, now that I have a BD player, BD will go downhill and HDDVD will win! :lol: (not like I really care anyways)

[zerocool24]

anyone here try the frag fx yet? i saw one at best buy yesterday and was thinking of picking that and possibly eye of judgement up.

[rahzel]

God of War III confirmed? (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6182430.html?tag=latestnews;title;0)
At the time of Barlog's outburst, SCEA reps would comment on neither a rumble-enabled Sixaxis nor God of War III coming to the PS3. Now, less than two months after the Dual Shock 3 was unveiled at the 2007 Tokyo Game Show, Sony has officially confirmed that God of War III is indeed in development exclusively for the PS3 at SCEA's Santa Monica studio. It provided no further details on the game.
no surprise here.

[sfu_lifer]

God of War III confirmed? (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6182430.html?tag=latestnews;title;0)

no surprise here.
Nope, no surprises at all. What would be a surprise is if they announce it will come out in '08 :cheesygri

[marcopolo85]

Man COD4 is awesome. Ive only played some of the single player so far but its great. Very action packed and awesome graphics.

[Andro]

I'am interested in buying 80gb bundle. Any drawback from 40, 60 gb bundle, other then money difference?

Would this be the best bundle for PS3 now? i.e. included more features in PS3.

[marcopolo85]

I'am interested in buying 80gb bundle. Any drawback from 40, 60 gb bundle, other then money difference?

Would this be the best bundle for PS3 now? i.e. included more features in PS3.

60 gig if you can still find it, its got almost 100% backwards compatibility + everything else. If you are unable to find the 60 gig then get the 80 gig.

[Andro]

60 gig if you can still find it, its got almost 100% backwards compatibility + everything else. If you are unable to find the 60 gig then get the 80 gig.

but other then that 80 gb is superior right? i'am not interested in many PS2 games, just major title like GOW and so on......and those are supported by both. I just thought that by 80gb being newer then 60gb and having 20 gb more it would be a better choice, or not?

[ashs]

dont look at hard drive space too much, sony supports you upgrading the playstation hardware, so u can always add your own hard drive if space is a concern.

[zerocool24]

but other then that 80 gb is superior right? i'am not interested in many PS2 games, just major title like GOW and so on......and those are supported by both. I just thought that by 80gb being newer then 60gb and having 20 gb more it would be a better choice, or not?

really depends on the cost and whether or not you want motorstorm, the best value would be the 40 gig version at 399, although afaik you lose all backwards compatability. They all have the same features (the 40 gig has 2 less usb ports and that is about it if i recall correctly) the 60 gig is the best if you NEED backwards compatability. As was mentioned the hard drives are very easily upgraded, so if you wanted to add more hard drive space all you'd need to do is buy a bigger laptop drive. Dell.ca has a good deal on the 40 gig, comes with R&C and an hdmi cable for 399.

[GunnerX]

I believe they also removed the Multi Card reader on the 40GB. I actually use this a lot on my 60GB system. I take pics with my DSLR and my wife uses the P&S and I can put both cards in at once and have a slideshow going right away. The Photo Album slideshow on the PS3 is quite nice.

[zerocool24]

I believe they also removed the Multi Card reader on the 40GB. I actually use this a lot on my 60GB system. I take pics with my DSLR and my wife uses the P&S and I can put both cards in at once and have a slideshow going right away. The Photo Album slideshow on the PS3 is quite nice.

oh yah i actually forgot about that on the ps3, as i have never actually used it.

[Andro]

thanks for replies, i think 80gb is the one that i like because of the extra space + motorstorm.........another question that i had, where is PS3 made? does it differ between 40,60,80gb? Japan by any chance? :D

[evozero]

new firmware coming tomorrow (2.00)

Summary

- Releases on November 8.
- Allows for the PS3 to be turned on remotely via PSP.
- Allows the creation of playlists in both the Music and Photo categories.
- Customize the color and brightness of the XMB theme as well as use custom themes.
- Information Board added to XMB.
- All-new PlayStation Network category in the XMB.
- Trend Micro Web Security internet security system for the web browser.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2007/11/07/firmware-update-v200/

No in game XMB :( . All i want is my custom music in game, the ability to send/receive messages in game and (eventually) the ability invite my friends to join whatever game i'm playing. that's it sony! make it happen.

[joshmxpx]

new firmware coming tomorrow (2.00)

Summary

- Releases on November 8.
- Allows for the PS3 to be turned on remotely via PSP.
- Allows the creation of playlists in both the Music and Photo categories.
- Customize the color and brightness of the XMB theme as well as use custom themes.
- Information Board added to XMB.
- All-new PlayStation Network category in the XMB.
- Trend Micro Web Security internet security system for the web browser.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2007/11/07/firmware-update-v200/

No in game XMB :( . All i want is my custom music in game, the ability to send/receive messages in game and (eventually) the ability invite my friends to join whatever game i'm playing. that's it sony! make it happen.

You forgot to add support for Canon printers...

Sony still has a long way to go to deliver all the features as some of the competition. Many people said that this was going to be a huge update for the PS3, but there's nothing really radical in that list.

[rahzel]

you would think Sony would highlight the most significant features in the update, but i doubt thats the complete list of features in 2.0.

[maebach]

We'll find out how good the update is tommorrow.

[BinaryJay]

In other news, I called in about the holiday blu-ray offer. Found out that I'm like the 30th person in line to have the discs shipped out "when they get stock". Sweet... I knew sending that stuff out Registered Mail would help bypass the pains of the dreaded mail in offer.

[GunnerX]

Here's the "Complete" 2.0 features in video!

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2007/11/07/firmware-200-video-demonstration/

I highly doubt there's more.

[Andro]

another question that i had, where is PS3 made? does it differ between 40,60,80gb? Japan by any chance? :D

anybody know?

[zydus]

all made in china i'm sure but i hear the 60/80 are made by Asustek the 40 by foxconn don't quote me on this pls..


PS. Firmware 2.0 is OUT NOW!!! Downloading as we speak

[GunnerX]

all made in china i'm sure but i hear the 60/80 are made by Asustek the 40 by foxconn don't quote me on this pls..


PS. Firmware 2.0 is OUT NOW!!! Downloading as we speak

Ugh, talk about a useless update. The included Air Paint theme sucks. I put in my Mem Stick from my PSP hoping it would install the PSP themes to no avail. The Information Bar is totally useless right now so I turned that off. The PSN logo sux. :lol: An update worthy of the 2.0 name should be more than this.

[sfu_lifer]

Ugh, talk about a useless update. The included Air Paint theme sucks. I put in my Mem Stick from my PSP hoping it would install the PSP themes to no avail. The Information Bar is totally useless right now so I turned that off. The PSN logo sux. :lol: An update worthy of the 2.0 name should be more than this.
Well the wake on lan option is not bad via the PSP but otherwise, meh.
Still no cross-game commnication.

[marcopolo85]

If you wanna create your own themes maybe this can help you.
http://www.psu.com/Creating-your-own-PS3-themes-News--a0001809-p0.php


btw when you go to the sony japan website click the button on the bottom right to download the software.

[zydus]

Ugh, talk about a useless update. The included Air Paint theme sucks. I put in my Mem Stick from my PSP hoping it would install the PSP themes to no avail. The Information Bar is totally useless right now so I turned that off. The PSN logo sux. :lol: An update worthy of the 2.0 name should be more than this.

I love the new themes :D u can also change the default xmb background color now before it used to be based on the time of the day. People can start making their own themes which is sick, cos just changing the background wallpaper wud make it harder to read the text and icons.

I used the air paint theme and changed the wallpaper back to the default xmb but in blue.

IMO 2.0 is just an update which I think they released just to keep us users happy, give us something to do i.e. play with themes while the keep working on the in game xmb etc. Also 2.0 i think sets the ground work for the new features they have been promising for a while. Its like a base to build upon i'm sure

[GunnerX]

It looks like they're using the PSP XMB as a testing ground then follow it up on the PS3. I guess it's only a matter of days until the PSP themes are modified for the PS3. One year later and we get themes. Yay!

[Waiwai]

It looks like they're using the PSP XMB as a testing ground then follow it up on the PS3. I guess it's only a matter of days until the PSP themes are modified for the PS3. One year later and we get themes. Yay!

Well, it is free, so I dunno... hard to really complain about stuff that wasn't there that I'm not paying extra for. I wish my car would spew out free stuff over time or my house....

I'm surprised that the themes from the PSP ones don't work, I guess because it doesn't have the right amount of columns/icons.

The Update banner is completely useless, I don't see how it would ever be useful at all. It makes the screen look pretty ugly too.

The only thing I'm getting out of this is wake-up on lan which could be interesting, but again, we're waiting on "potential" since the only thing I would do is start store downloads from work...

[mxhp00]

sorry for asking a noob question, but...

I heard in several forums/threads that the 60gig ps3 is better than the 80gig because of the backwards compatibility with ps2/ps1 games. Can someone confirm this?

[PCDawg]

sorry for asking a noob question, but...

I heard in several forums/threads that the 60gig ps3 is better than the 80gig because of the backwards compatibility with ps2/ps1 games. Can someone confirm this?

Its been mentioned before, but yes. The 60GB is fully 100% compatible with alll PS2 games whereas the 80GB is aproximately compatible with able 80% of the games.

[mxhp00]

Its been mentioned before, but yes. The 60GB is fully 100% compatible with alll PS2 games whereas the 80GB is aproximately compatible with able 80% of the games.

There are plans of future updates available to download to make it 100% compatible though right? They wouldn't just stop at 80%...would they? :cry:

[bmaz]

There are plans of future updates available to download to make it 100% compatible though right? They wouldn't just stop at 80%...would they? :cry:
Actually I read that the number is closer to 65%, and for the 60 GB version it should be 100% but I read it was 98% ( Yes even with full hardware support there were supposedly issues with a few games )
There apparently is a website that list all the supported games for both versions.

Sony won't be working on making the PS3 more compatible, if you need more info it's all over the internet and in this thread as well.

[GunnerX]

Here's the compatibility list. http://faq.eu.playstation.com/bc/bcGames.htm

Since they have removed BC in the 40GB systems. I doubt they will be working on BC for the 80GB at all.

[ashs]

So who's downloading the demo of Drake's fortune today ? ow yeaa.

[nfnx]

so question of the year. what the hell is xmb?

[PCDawg]

so question of the year. what the hell is xmb?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XrossMediaBar

Not too fond of the new updates. Thought there werould be an update for new BD features. The info bar is a sight thats unbearable.

[rahzel]

So who's downloading the demo of Drake's fortune today ? ow yeaa.
i'm actually going to wait because i know the download is going to be painfully slow.

[sleepyguy]

Comments on the Playstation.blog are hilarious! Nothing but negative stuff to say... lol. I'm surprised they don't filter out some of those replies, very very harsh.

I played Oblivion on my buddys PS3 the other day. Wow! I was very impressed! -sg

[yatta]

is there a place to rent consoles? like I remember blockbuster use to do it back in the day... I want to play Heavenly sword bad! but not enough to buy the system... yet

[bmaz]

40 GB PS3 uses 65nm process afterall, well at least for the CPU. (http://ps3.ign.com/articles/833/833700p1.html)

[nden]

Firmware 2.00 is out today.. I just upgraded.

Well, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune Demo is out today too. I just finished the demo. I like it, the game is like Tomb Raider. Have anyone tried out?

[maebach]

Firmware 2.00 is out today.. I just upgraded.

Well, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune Demo is out today too. I just finished the demo. I like it, the game is like Tomb Raider. Have anyone tried out?

I finished it as well, it was really fun. I liked shooting up the fools. My only problem was that it took like 3 shots to kill them. After 2 youd expect them to go down for a bit. This is a definetely a buy if the game keeps up with tempo.

My favs:

jumping from pillar to pillar
melee attacks - it goes matrix style!
waterfall/pool - when you go in, drakes clothes get wet and you can see his jeans dry when you come out.

[nden]

I finished it as well, it was really fun. I liked shooting up the fools. My only problem was that it took like 3 shots to kill them. After 2 youd expect them to go down for a bit. This is a definetely a buy if the game keeps up with tempo.

My favs:

jumping from pillar to pillar
melee attacks - it goes matrix style!
waterfall/pool - when you go in, drakes clothes get wet and you can see his jeans dry when you come out.


Try headshot, you can take them out in 1 shot. I like the shotgun :) I wonder is there a sniper gun in this game.

[jeffyjaixx]

just upgraded to 2.00 as well and loving the new themes pack.

Downloading drake now.

[Musiq Soulchild]

Just finished Drake game, pretty impressive.

[rahzel]

i've seen a lot of videos of Drake, so not surprisingly, it looked very good. textures are one of the best i've seen (best hair i've seen in any game), nice bump mapping, no aliasing issues, framerate is solid 30fps, water looks great, enemies look great. when Drake moves, his shirt ripples so realistically, the attention to detail is amazing! love the way Drake's shirt looks when its wet, very believable. controls were very good, much better than i thought. took a little while to get used to them as i've been playing R&C for 10+ hours over the last few days. the game is also very fun to play and the story seems quite interesting.

day 1 purchase for me.

[masterhapposai]

you guys should be all out playing CoD4!

owns Fall of Man & Halo3.

[sfu_lifer]

Too busy trying out the sandbox that is Uncharted :D
Fantastic demo and definitely makes my pre-order valid (the one that was originally Lair -> Heavenly Sword). Best graphics on a console thus far (playable) IMO. Not a leap above what's out on the 360 but it is an improvement. I'm seeing some aliasing when Drake's moving (more noticeable in the hair/facial area). The attention to detail is amazing. I was in "holy crap" mode when I got him wet under the falls and the clothes dried up eventually and not just a wet/dry transition. I don't much care for his geeky running movement tho. Drake's hair is pretty good, the lady's (based on the cutscene), not so much.
Anyone know if this has any online/multiplayer co-op options?

[jeffyjaixx]

I enjoyed every second of the demo. It was soo good... the water is so fluid and the AI is so smart, I died once even on easy mode :lol:. A few shots.

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/5553/jeff008rw6.jpg

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/128/jeff020xi4.jpg

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/5516/jeff071kk9.jpg

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8120/jeff053ae1.jpg

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1294/jeff076rz7.jpg

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9899/jeff086fo5.jpg

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/948/jeff089iw1.jpg

[rahzel]

Too busy trying out the sandbox that is Uncharted :D
Fantastic demo and definitely makes my pre-order valid (the one that was originally Lair -> Heavenly Sword). Best graphics on a console thus far (playable) IMO. Not a leap above what's out on the 360 but it is an improvement. I'm seeing some aliasing when Drake's moving (more noticeable in the hair/facial area). The attention to detail is amazing. I was in "holy crap" mode when I got him wet under the falls and the clothes dried up eventually and not just a wet/dry transition. I don't much care for his geeky running movement tho. Drake's hair is pretty good, the lady's (based on the cutscene), not so much.
Anyone know if this has any online/multiplayer co-op options?
go in aim mode and move around and watch Drake's shirt move. this is the first game i've played where you can actually see his shirt ripple as the player moves and it looks so real too.
there is some aliasing but its not bad imo. the game uses 2xAA according to Quaz51 at beyond3d and it runs at native 720p.

i also died on easy mode :o , but i was struggling with the controls at first as i was used to play R&C.

[icecold2021]

i notice some screen tearing in the uncharted demo... but the r&c demo had minor tears and wasnt in the final game... heres hoping.

[rdtx2002]

i notice some screen tearing in the uncharted demo... but the r&c demo had minor tears and wasnt in the final game... heres hoping.

email Naughty Dog, just so they know

[marcopolo85]

Too busy trying out the sandbox that is Uncharted :D
Fantastic demo and definitely makes my pre-order valid (the one that was originally Lair -> Heavenly Sword). Best graphics on a console thus far (playable) IMO. Not a leap above what's out on the 360 but it is an improvement. I'm seeing some aliasing when Drake's moving (more noticeable in the hair/facial area). The attention to detail is amazing. I was in "holy crap" mode when I got him wet under the falls and the clothes dried up eventually and not just a wet/dry transition. I don't much care for his geeky running movement tho. Drake's hair is pretty good, the lady's (based on the cutscene), not so much.
Anyone know if this has any online/multiplayer co-op options?

No there is no online/multiplayer co-op options. If there were I think this game would have game of the year written all over it.

I enjoyed every second of the demo. It was soo good... the water is so fluid and the AI is so smart, I died once even on easy mode :lol:. A few shots.

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/5553/jeff008rw6.jpg

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/128/jeff020xi4.jpg

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/5516/jeff071kk9.jpg

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8120/jeff053ae1.jpg

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1294/jeff076rz7.jpg

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9899/jeff086fo5.jpg

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/948/jeff089iw1.jpg

Awesome pics but more imporatantly, what camera are u using?

Yes the AI is very hard the only thing i didnt like was their lightening fast movement. I beat hard with only dieing 6 times@! Awesome demo.

[joshmxpx]

No there is no online/multiplayer co-op options. If there were I think this game would have game of the year written all over it.



Awesome pics but more imporatantly, what camera are u using?

Yes the AI is very hard the only thing i didnt like was their lightening fast movement. I beat hard with only dieing 6 times@! Awesome demo.

is it really necessary to quite and include all of the pics? just one would have been fine.

apart from that, this game looks pretty good. First time i might be jealous of you PS3 guys out there...

[rollen]

got the demo yesterday and im impressed...definitely going to pick this game up!

my library of ps3 games is growing! i still have to finish heavenly sword though ;)

[CFRTim]

:eek: WOW, Uncharted looks amazing. I hope it plays as good as it looks.

[evozero]

uncharted demo was great. reminds me of resident evil 4 aiming (but you can move while aiming) and gears cover system with some pulp action adventure. really fluid overall, took a little getting used to but after a bit the controls feel great. i did some pretty awesome melee moves too. one drake jumped on the dude's back and snapped his neck, another he did a dropkick. i'm buying this when my dualshock 3 gets here (importing).

[ashs]

i didnt realize how fun Drake's cover system is, i loved the demo.

[Andro]

i will be probably picking up PS3 80gb over this weekend. I know PS3 doesn't come with some cable, which cable do i need? and how much does it cost roughly in FS,BB,Walmart or any other big retailers?....no online deals please.

[jeffyjaixx]

No there is no online/multiplayer co-op options. If there were I think this game would have game of the year written all over it.



Awesome pics but more imporatantly, what camera are u using?

Yes the AI is very hard the only thing i didnt like was their lightening fast movement. I beat hard with only dieing 6 times@! Awesome demo.

Thanks, I'm using the Fujifilm FinePix F30.

i will be probably picking up PS3 80gb over this weekend. I know PS3 doesn't come with some cable, which cable do i need? and how much does it cost roughly in FS,BB,Walmart or any other big retailers?....no online deals please.

Depends. If you're displaying it on a TV, a HDMI cable will be great and can be had for like $7 shipped from monoprice.com. If you're displaying on a monitor, get a HDMI-DVI cable. Not sure how much that is at monoprice.com but should be cheap.

The 80GB is probably $499.99 in most retail stores. If you don't care for BC, you should go for the Dell deal right now... PS3 40GB with either 2 controllers or 1 game (RandC or Heavenly Sword I believe) for $399 free shipping.

[marcopolo85]

i will be probably picking up PS3 80gb over this weekend. I know PS3 doesn't come with some cable, which cable do i need? and how much does it cost roughly in FS,BB,Walmart or any other big retailers?....no online deals please.

It comes with component cables. Do you have an HDTV? if so then you should get HDMI cables. HDMI cables can get pretty expensive at big retailers, i would suggest www.monoprice.com

[bmaz]

Apparently firmware 2.00 has a few unlisted improvements (http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/rumor/hint-of-coming-xvid-and-divx-support-slipped-into-ps3-firmware-200-320751.php), such as:
- Faster network speeds at least with Vista
- Shows details for Divx/Xvid encoded .avi files but still won't play them ( doesn't show details for .divx files however )

[maebach]

Where'd you guys pre-order Uncharted?

[rahzel]

i'm planning on pre-ordering from amazon.ca with the $10 off coupon. but amazon.ca is extremely slow with pre-orders so i'm also looking on ebay.
bestbuy is going to have 15% off video games on sunday, but they don't even have Uncharted listed on their site yet.

[Deals Deals Deals]

Thanks, I'm using the Fujifilm FinePix F30.



Depends. If you're displaying it on a TV, a HDMI cable will be great and can be had for like $7 shipped from monoprice.com. If you're displaying on a monitor, get a HDMI-DVI cable. Not sure how much that is at monoprice.com but should be cheap.

The 80GB is probably $499.99 in most retail stores. If you don't care for BC, you should go for the Dell deal right now... PS3 40GB with either 2 controllers or 1 game (RandC or Heavenly Sword I believe) for $399 free shipping.

The pictures from your camera are pretty good.

[Andro]

Depends. If you're displaying it on a TV, a HDMI cable will be great and can be had for like $7 shipped from monoprice.com. If you're displaying on a monitor, get a HDMI-DVI cable. Not sure how much that is at monoprice.com but should be cheap.

The 80GB is probably $499.99 in most retail stores. If you don't care for BC, you should go for the Dell deal right now... PS3 40GB with either 2 controllers or 1 game (RandC or Heavenly Sword I believe) for $399 free shipping.

I have no interest in 40gb, want the 80 or 60gb(leaning towards 80gb)......don't want to deal with Dell because of the shipping, i don't want to wait for a month for my PS3.

It comes with component cables. Do you have an HDTV? if so then you should get HDMI cables. HDMI cables can get pretty expensive at big retailers, i would suggest www.monoprice.com

I have an HDTV, reason why i want to pick up through retailers is that i won't have to deal with shipping and waiting.

So from what i can see is that i need HDMI cable. Thanks for the replies.

[mark_in_2k]

Just played through the Uncharted demo and here are my impressions:


+ Positives
Graphics and effects are amazing. Attention to details is great, such as getting in the water and waterfall.

The jumping / platforming controls feel very natural, unlike Tomb Raider on the 360. You see a platform you want to reach, you jump, and you usually get there.

The hint system (L2 if you can't find what you're looking for) shows you where you should be heading without giving too much away.

Combat is challenging due to the AI, even on easy level.

- Negatives
Cover system doesn't feel as polished as GoW.

Grenade throwing with the Siaxis only works on forwards / backwards motion which doesn't feel intuitive when you have to use the analog stick to position it left and right. Would it have been that difficult to have implemented aiming to more than one axis?

You have to be in the right spot to pick up ammo. I found myself running around the crates trying to find the sweet spot.


All in all, a great demo that shows a lot of promise. However, I will be waiting for the reviews to come in to see how long the game is. It may turn out to be a rental as I can't see too much replayability in there.

[zerocool24]

I have no interest in 40gb, want the 80 or 60gb(leaning towards 80gb)......don't want to deal with Dell because of the shipping, i don't want to wait for a month for my PS3.



I have an HDTV, reason why i want to pick up through retailers is that i won't have to deal with shipping and waiting.

So from what i can see is that i need HDMI cable. Thanks for the replies.

I'd save the money and get the system from dell which i believe also includes the hdmi cable, at least it did last week when i checked, saves you a bunch of money and you get either a game or another controller, for less than what youd pay for the 80 gig, if you really want motorstorm i picked up a used copy at eb in april for 49.99 so id assume it would be cheaper by now, so you spend at least 50 bucks less and the only thing you are missing are the card reader and 2 usb ports and 40 gigs of hard drive space, which isnt really needed unless you plan to keep tons of demos/videos on the drive.

[rahzel]

All in all, a great demo that shows a lot of promise. However, I will be waiting for the reviews to come in to see how long the game is. It may turn out to be a rental as I can't see too much replayability in there.
the game has achievements and lots of unlockables including different rendering modes to give the game different looks. also, i think theres a mode that switches the direction in which you would normal go making it a little different. and of course there are multiple difficulty settings (4 in total). the game is also a good 10-12 hours on normal difficulty.

[marcopolo85]

I hope sony integrates a photo mode when ever they get the in-game xmb going. I'd love to take screenshots and upload them to a jumpdrive, make it happen sony!

[Waiwai]

Just played through the Uncharted demo and here are my impressions:


+ Positives
Graphics and effects are amazing. Attention to details is great, such as getting in the water and waterfall.

The jumping / platforming controls feel very natural, unlike Tomb Raider on the 360. You see a platform you want to reach, you jump, and you usually get there.

The hint system (L2 if you can't find what you're looking for) shows you where you should be heading without giving too much away.

Combat is challenging due to the AI, even on easy level.

- Negatives
Cover system doesn't feel as polished as GoW.

Grenade throwing with the Siaxis only works on forwards / backwards motion which doesn't feel intuitive when you have to use the analog stick to position it left and right. Would it have been that difficult to have implemented aiming to more than one axis?

You have to be in the right spot to pick up ammo. I found myself running around the crates trying to find the sweet spot.


All in all, a great demo that shows a lot of promise. However, I will be waiting for the reviews to come in to see how long the game is. It may turn out to be a rental as I can't see too much replayability in there.

Hmmm... I'm wondering if the ammo pickup problems you have is due to the fact that the ammo is not actually IN the crates, they were either on the crate or on the ground by the crate. I thought the grenade throwing was a bit weird initially too until I used it a bit more.

[zydus]

Hmmm... I'm wondering if the ammo pickup problems you have is due to the fact that the ammo is not actually IN the crates, they were either on the crate or on the ground by the crate. I thought the grenade throwing was a bit weird initially too until I used it a bit more.

Also the icon pops up in either green or red letting you know whether you can pick it up. I had no issues with this. The 'nade throwing was a little weird and didn't like it much.

[PCDawg]

Also the icon pops up in either green or red letting you know whether you can pick it up. I had no issues with this. The 'nade throwing was a little weird and didn't like it much.

Its a great demo but also had trouble trying to pick up ammo and nades. YOu ahve to really be right on top of them or precisely right in front of them. The detection range is very small.

Alot of great games coming out for the PS3, its gonna make me broke

A side note: Does anyone have freezing problems with their PS3 after the 2.00 update? I encounted it twice i believe, with yesterday starting up a COD4 multiplayer game, it froze on loading up. (I was not trying to get online play mode).

[Musiq Soulchild]

A side note: Does anyone have freezing problems with their PS3 after the 2.00 update? I encounted it twice i believe, with yesterday starting up a COD4 multiplayer game, it froze on loading up. (I was not trying to get online play mode).

Ya, same with me. Never happened to me before and now all of a sudden it is :S Hopefully its just the firmware and not my ps3.

[nano]

is it possible to copy games in the HD of the PS3?

[Deals Deals Deals]

Its a great demo but also had trouble trying to pick up ammo and nades. YOu ahve to really be right on top of them or precisely right in front of them. The detection range is very small.

Alot of great games coming out for the PS3, its gonna make me broke

A side note: Does anyone have freezing problems with their PS3 after the 2.00 update? I encounted it twice i believe, with yesterday starting up a COD4 multiplayer game, it froze on loading up. (I was not trying to get online play mode).

I haven't had any freezing problems after the update. Maybe it's Call of Duty 4.

[uddinf]

my PS3 froze once while playing the uncharted demo...

[ashs]

A side note: Does anyone have freezing problems with their PS3 after the 2.00 update? I encounted it twice i believe, with yesterday starting up a COD4 multiplayer game, it froze on loading up. (I was not trying to get online play mode).

my ps3 froze once while loading up eye create (play station eye software), there could be a bug in the 2.0 firmware

[marcopolo85]

Mine hasnt froze yet although while i was playing COD4 it was going really slow through the menus. I thought it was frozen at first but i gave it a minute and everything was ok.

thought this was kinda funny:
What Your Boyfriend's Console Choice Really Says About Him

PS3
Pros: Rich.
Cons: Might be stupid, but hey, rich.

Wii
Pros: Fun-loving, social, artsy.
Cons: May actually turn out to be trendy/emo/gay.

Xbox360
Pros: Confident, More fun than a barrel of monkeys.
Cons: Unlike other 2 owners, actually has games to play on console -- may blow off plans for dinner/movie/marriage. May shoot you in the face.

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/What-Your-Boyfriend-s-Console-Choice-Really-Says-About-Him-7167.html

I always knew WII owners were somewhat gay :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: ;)

[BigBadBoo]

Mine hasnt froze yet although while i was playing COD4 it was going really slow through the menus. I thought it was frozen at first but i gave it a minute and everything was ok.

thought this was kinda funny:

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/What-Your-Boyfriend-s-Console-Choice-Really-Says-About-Him-7167.html

I always knew WII owners were somewhat gay :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: ;)

Buying a PS3 means he is rich? Are you kidding me? I think more people spent more money on a 360 than the PS3 after all is said and done. Why? well Xbox Live + all the great games out so far...

So what if you own all 3? Now that is rich...and perhaps has toooo much time...which probably means doesn't have a girlfriend. Apologies to all those who don't fit this mold, but I am just going by article ;)

[marcopolo85]

want to play bioshock but dont have a 360? well heres your chance
http://blog.megascorcher.com/2007/11/confirmed-bioshock-coming-to-ps3-in-08.html
2K Boston (Irrational) let the news slip out today that the ultra popular Bioshock is indeed coming to the PS3, labelled with a "Spring 2008" release. Speaking with some one on the "inside", he told us the project was always slated for a PS3 release. It was just a matter of waiting for the timed exclusivity to expire.

So taking that in mind, Spring is slightly over 6 months from the 360's release date, so we'll assume the deal was for 6 months.

Microsoft knows what they're doing, 6 months is perfect, every one who's wanted to play it, has already. So that leaves so little people for the PS3 version, but we'll see how it does next year.

[rahzel]

no surprise here. but good news nonetheless.

[mark_in_2k]

Buying a PS3 means he is rich? Are you kidding me? I think more people spent more money on a 360 than the PS3 after all is said and done. Why? well Xbox Live + all the great games out so far...

So what if you own all 3? Now that is rich...and perhaps has toooo much time...which probably means doesn't have a girlfriend. Apologies to all those who don't fit this mold, but I am just going by article ;)Wow, can't you see that the article is a joke:confused: I own a 360 and I haven't shot anyone in the face. In fact, I own all 3, that would really screw the article up.

[bmaz]

Has anyone tried third party controllers? Such as the Logitech Cordless Precision™ Controller (http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/gaming/playstation_3/devices/848&cl=ca,en)?
Apparently it supports rumble but not motion sensing, I prefer it's D-Pad over the SIXAXIS's and hopefully it's a bit heavier.
It uses 2.4 Ghz RF, which will take up one USB port for the transmitter/receiver.
http://www.i4u.com/images/2007/reviews/logitechcordlessprecisionps3/gallery/cordlessprecisionps3-siz.jpg

[Andro]

Would the HDMI cable make that much of a difference if my 32' HDTV output is 1080i, compared to component cables?

[zerocool24]

Its a great demo but also had trouble trying to pick up ammo and nades. YOu ahve to really be right on top of them or precisely right in front of them. The detection range is very small.

Alot of great games coming out for the PS3, its gonna make me broke

A side note: Does anyone have freezing problems with their PS3 after the 2.00 update? I encounted it twice i believe, with yesterday starting up a COD4 multiplayer game, it froze on loading up. (I was not trying to get online play mode).

i really liked the demo, i didnt have any issues with picking up the ammo though, before the demo i didnt really have any interest in the game, now i am thinking about buying it. My ps3 has not froze yet, although just after the update it was a little more sluggish, but it seems to have worked itself out.

[outkastland]

Would the HDMI cable make that much of a difference if my 32' HDTV output is 1080i, compared to component cables?

It should yes, not to mention HDMI carries the audio and video. Cheaper cable as well from what I have found.

[jdmkidd]

really can't wait till something great happens for the playstation 3 MGS4/Grand Theft series,final fantasy etc...

[Andro]

just got myself 60gb bundle from costco. Now i have some question about 5 bluray movies promotion.

http://bluraysavings.com/newindex_ca.html

How long does it usually take them to mail to you? basically how long will i have to wait to get them?

[BD006]

just got myself 60gb bundle from costco. Now i have some question about 5 bluray movies promotion.

http://bluraysavings.com/newindex_ca.html

How long does it usually take them to mail to you? basically how long will i have to wait to get them?

Depends if they have all the movies you choose in stock. For some people, it took the estimated 6 weeks, for others, it took more than 2 months.

[jeffyjaixx]

Two more Uncharted shots from my friend's 46" Sammy.

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/9083/dscf3850uu5.jpg

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/299/dscf3862zj1.jpg

[jeffyjaixx]

Apparently these are PS3 screens of Assassin's Creed.

Got them from GAF.

http://www.hostdump.com/uploads/6040ddb40d.jpg

http://www.hostdump.com/uploads/6f9feb2ad3.jpg

http://www.hostdump.com/uploads/7daa3dca4b.jpg

http://www.hostdump.com/uploads/51e8f658d2.jpg

http://www.hostdump.com/uploads/9dc0d45f3d.jpg

http://www.hostdump.com/uploads/94a64c96e5.jpg

http://www.hostdump.com/uploads/99bdd13aac.jpg

http://www.hostdump.com/uploads/4555b9f459.jpg

[maebach]

nice!

[CFRTim]

Apparently these are PS3 screens of Assassin's Creed.

Got them from GAF.


http://www.hostdump.com/uploads/94a64c96e5.jpg


Naah, looks a little washed-out and blured. In general, your game pics look much better than this, must be your display and camera :cheesygri

[fatpig]

In other news, I called in about the holiday blu-ray offer. Found out that I'm like the 30th person in line to have the discs shipped out "when they get stock". Sweet... I knew sending that stuff out Registered Mail would help bypass the pains of the dreaded mail in offer.

What is the number to call?

[icecold2021]

i bought the fragfx on sunday. not sure if i like it yet, tried it out with uncharted demo and was pulling off headshots easier than with the controller but still not the same as a real mouse.

gonna try it with resistance soon.

[CFRTim]

We are excited to work with Sony Computer Entertainment to bring DivX to PS3," said Kevin Hell, CEO of DivX, Inc. "Our technology will expand the multimedia functionality of PS3 by enabling users to enjoy access to the broad library of content in the DivX digital media format."

That's sweeeeeet:cheesygri

http://kotaku.com/gaming/hell-yes/divx-confirms-ps3-divx-support-322015.php

[evozero]

DivX support is definitely awesome. I can stop using my modded ps2 as a divx player soon. I hope Sony adds support for x264/mkv containers but i'm not holding my breath.

[rahzel]

agreed, divx would be sweet. but what would be even sweeter would be .mkv support.

in other news, the new 40GB PS3 launched in Japan and the PS3 sold almost 66k in its first week (40GB released last day of the week afaik). the 40GB sold 50k alone.

http://www.texyt.com/40GB+Sony+PS3+sales+50,000+Japan+Enterbrain+Famits u+00120
http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2203349/ps3-back-brink-analysts-say

[maebach]

We are excited to work with Sony Computer Entertainment to bring DivX to PS3," said Kevin Hell, CEO of DivX, Inc. "Our technology will expand the multimedia functionality of PS3 by enabling users to enjoy access to the broad library of content in the DivX digital media format."

That's sweeeeeet:cheesygri

http://kotaku.com/gaming/hell-yes/divx-confirms-ps3-divx-support-322015.php

thaks god! Im so excited!

[Badman]

yep thats an amazing ad on for the ps3. That alone should have brought the ps3 to 2.0 firmware. I can't wait.

Imagine if it upsacales it as well :)

[rollen]

sweeeeeeet! been waiting for this!

[sfu_lifer]

yep thats an amazing ad on for the ps3. That alone should have brought the ps3 to 2.0 firmware. I can't wait.

Imagine if it upsacales it as well :)
Guys on kotaku wish they'd fix the broken mp4/mpeg2 streaming that 2.0 broke.
I'm very excited about divx/xvid support. Pre-empting Microsoft to boot, too.

I'd rather not use my 360 as a media extender since it's so darned loud.

[shannn]

So IGN reviewed Uncharted, gave it a 9.1, but they said its a tad short, but a boatload of fun to play

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/834/834931p2.html

[evozero]

my dualshock 3 shipped today from play-asia. not sure when it's going to arrive, but i think it'll be atleast a couple weeks. i'll post impressions when i get it.

[rahzel]

So IGN reviewed Uncharted, gave it a 9.1, but they said its a tad short, but a boatload of fun to play

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/834/834931p2.html
they said its around 8 hours which isn't too shabby. they also said theres plenty of replay value like skill points, unlockable cheats, different rendering modes, other playable characters etc. watching the video review, he seems to REALLY like it too.

[bumboclott]

my dualshock 3 shipped today from play-asia. not sure when it's going to arrive, but i think it'll be atleast a couple weeks. i'll post impressions when i get it.

Do you know where play-asia ships from?

[sfu_lifer]

they said its around 8 hours which isn't too shabby. they also said theres plenty of replay value like skill points, unlockable cheats, different rendering modes, other playable characters etc. watching the video review, he seems to REALLY like it too.

8 hours seems to be the norm nowadays for all next-gen consoles (wish it were longer). I hope they fixed the broken headshots that was in the demo.

[Yesdear]

8 hours seems to be the norm nowadays for all next-gen consoles (wish it were longer). I hope they fixed the broken headshots that was in the demo.


I hope they fixed the screen shifting (I think they call it tearing). I enjoyed the demo but it reminded me of playing a pc game with a slow video card at times.

[rollen]

I hope they fixed the screen shifting (I think they call it tearing). I enjoyed the demo but it reminded me of playing a pc game with a slow video card at times.

yeah i noticed the tearing too and im hoping they fixed it, but to me it seems like a minor problem compared to the overall great experience of the game.

[jeeva86]

Anybody know game shops in scar that sells used PS3 games? I want Skate.

[evozero]

Do you know where play-asia ships from?

hong kong i think

[Blue7thGen]

yup, Play-asia ships from HK. They are pretty good ordered a few cds from them in the past

[rahzel]

8 hours seems to be the norm nowadays for all next-gen consoles (wish it were longer). I hope they fixed the broken headshots that was in the demo.
what issue did you have with the headshots?

[maebach]

what issue did you have with the headshots?

I found it impossible t get one. ANd once I aimed and perfectly shot it and the guy ducked.

[rahzel]

well honestly now... how many people can pick people off with headshots from a decent distance away? and enemies wouldn't just stand there and let you get a good shot at his head. it is more difficult than most games to get headshots (especially since theres no sticky aim), but i did manage to get quite a few of them as i played through just now. i have played quite a few shooters on PS2/PS3 so my aim with the analog sticks is above average.

[play_b3yond]

Top Ten PS3 Exclusives

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/27842.html

:D

[CFRTim]

Top Ten PS3 Exclusives

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/27842.html

:D

lol, Resident: Fall of Man :cheesygri

[bmaz]

lol, Resident: Fall of Man :cheesygri
I think that guy was thinking about getting married and losing his freedom.

[zerocool24]

well honestly now... how many people can pick people off with headshots from a decent distance away? and enemies wouldn't just stand there and let you get a good shot at his head. it is more difficult than most games to get headshots (especially since theres no sticky aim), but i did manage to get quite a few of them as i played through just now. i have played quite a few shooters on PS2/PS3 so my aim with the analog sticks is above average.

i had some issues where id be aiming at guys heads and it would still take 2-3 shots to take them down.

[marcopolo85]

I found it impossible t get one. ANd once I aimed and perfectly shot it and the guy ducked.

jesus how easy do u people want this game to be?

[SergesPlace]

Some good news for Sony PS3 sales

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071115/ap_on_hi_te/sony_playstation_sales;_ylt=AnrwdDAGmP7u0QzIBFk6D8 YjtBAF

[mrelusive]

I don't think I've even seen a Sony Betamax this dirty...

link (http://consumerist.com/consumer/polls/is-this-playstation-3-too-dusty-to-be-repaired-under-warranty-322858.php#poll_=EDMwQTM)

http://consumerist.com/assets/resources/2007/11/Front-thumb.jpg

http://consumerist.com/assets/resources/2007/11/1-thumb.JPG

http://consumerist.com/assets/resources/2007/11/2-thumb.JPG

http://consumerist.com/assets/resources/2007/11/3-thumb.JPG

[shannn]

I don't think I've even seen a Sony Betamax this dirty...

link (http://consumerist.com/consumer/polls/is-this-playstation-3-too-dusty-to-be-repaired-under-warranty-322858.php#poll_=EDMwQTM)


Yea, that looks like someone burried that PS3 in a sandbox and just recently found it again, that's disgusting

[marcopolo85]

i play with my ps3 in the dirt all the time....

[joshmxpx]

I don't think I've even seen a Sony Betamax this dirty...

that's what happens when you're too busy playing 360 due to lack of ps3 games.... j/k!

[ATLien69]

Prolly from a construction site trailer... :D

I don't think I've even seen a Sony Betamax this dirty...

[sfu_lifer]

Anyone know if you can somehow gameshare the Guitar Hero 3 downloadable songs (yes I DO very much like sticking it to Activision)?

[zydus]

Just picked up uncharted from the FS at North York Center. Right off the shelf. 20 left as of right now :D

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/7933/0711161826jp7.th.jpg (http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0711161826jp7.jpg)

[maebach]

Just picked up uncharted from the FS at North York Center. Right off the shelf. 20 left as of right now :D

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/7933/0711161826jp7.th.jpg (http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0711161826jp7.jpg)

N ot to be released until Nov. 20th you cheater! lol, just kidding. but man am I jealous. . .

[Deals Deals Deals]

How does Sprint work in Call of Duty 4? I tried pressing R3 but it doesn't work? Can anyone tell me?

[brownstein]

I think it is L3

[Deals Deals Deals]

Sorry, I meant L3. I tried pressing L3 and it didn't do anything. R3 works fine and does the punch attack thing.

[Hybrid88]

I'm new to the PS3 scene but I find that importing/copying files over to the PS3 not exactly the fastest and easiest thing to do. Does the PS3 support USB external drives where I can just plug it in and it would recognize the external drive? I don't have an external drive to test this out - anyone tried?

[marcopolo85]

Sorry, I meant L3. I tried pressing L3 and it didn't do anything. R3 works fine and does the punch attack thing.

When you hit L3 and point the joystick forward you should do a sprint. Have u tried with another controller?

[zydus]

I'm new to the PS3 scene but I find that importing/copying files over to the PS3 not exactly the fastest and easiest thing to do. Does the PS3 support USB external drives where I can just plug it in and it would recognize the external drive? I don't have an external drive to test this out - anyone tried?

Absolutely, as long as the drives are formatted as FAT32 and not NTFS you can simply plug it into the USB ports. The select View All and you should be either able to copy it over to the ps3 or play it directly off the hard drive.

[Symcor]

Just setup my PS3 online with the new Linksys wireless router purchased. When my PS3 scan for signal, it only got around 50%. Is this normal to other users? My router is at the basement compare to my PS3 is up on the 2nd floor, that should be part of the reason but I am wondering is anything I can do to boost on the signal to approx. 70 - 80%.

Please help!:confused:

[Martinga]

Can someone describe hows the ps3 in terms of online gaming?
How big of a signal do you need to play normally?
Do games lag?
How is it different from Live and how big is the difference?
Please, I'm looking for honest answers and experiences.

[maebach]

Can someone describe hows the ps3 in terms of online gaming?
How big of a signal do you need to play normally?
Do games lag?
How is it different from Live and how big is the difference?
Please, I'm looking for honest answers and experiences.

Online gaming is alright for me at least. My router (wireless) is in the room next door, about 30 feet away, so its not much. I get about 100% signal, and have never lagged with Warhawk. With XBL, I had to play with a wired connection, so there was no lag either. The main difference is that when you get a message from someone on your friends list, you can send one back during the gameon the X360, but on the PS3, you ahve to quit to the XMB and then send a message. Its kinda annoying, but I dont usually need to send messages so I dont mind.

[Martinga]

Thanks for the fast reply maebach.
I got another question:
how hard/easy is it to find games or servers to play?
Like say you go play Warhawk or Call of Duty 4, how many "rooms" are usually available?
I'm just trying to decide between a 360 and a Ps3. I'm inclining more towards the ps3, but my friends insist I get a 360. I'm aware the online on 360 is better, but to what extent is it better than Ps3?
And what other things does Ps3 have to offer over the 360?
Thanks for anyone replying, keep the opinions coming (and please, no dumb answers like "Ps3 SUCKS its horrible, or vice versa with the 360)

[marcopolo85]

Thanks for the fast reply maebach.
I got another question:
how hard/easy is it to find games or servers to play?
Like say you go play Warhawk or Call of Duty 4, how many "rooms" are usually available?
I'm just trying to decide between a 360 and a Ps3. I'm inclining more towards the ps3, but my friends insist I get a 360. I'm aware the online on 360 is better, but to what extent is it better than Ps3?
And what other things does Ps3 have to offer over the 360?
Thanks for anyone replying, keep the opinions coming (and please, no dumb answers like "Ps3 SUCKS its horrible, or vice versa with the 360)

Honestly.... if your friend has a 360 then just get a 360 cuz then you and him will be able to have fun online. Thats all its really about just having fun with some friends or if u wanna play by yourself. Both offer basically the same thing.

I bought a 360 1 year after launch and it was tons of fun cuz u can have your buddies play online with you. But then my 360 broke and I returned it just intime for the ps3. It was pretty lonely with out of all my friends the only one with a ps3 so i made some friends online. But now with the $399 price tag a bunch of my buddies bought a ps3 so its alllll good now.

[bmaz]

Just setup my PS3 online with the new Linksys wireless router purchased. When my PS3 scan for signal, it only got around 50%. Is this normal to other users? My router is at the basement compare to my PS3 is up on the 2nd floor, that should be part of the reason but I am wondering is anything I can do to boost on the signal to approx. 70 - 80%.

Please help!:confused:
That's not a PS3 issue thats a router/location issue, you should ask that question in the computer forum or if you do a search you should find some answers as well.
PS. having a router in the basement is not the best location for a router the signal will bounce off the concrete walls. Moisture also doesn't aid the situation.

[maebach]

Thanks for the fast reply maebach.
I got another question:
how hard/easy is it to find games or servers to play?
Like say you go play Warhawk or Call of Duty 4, how many "rooms" are usually available?
I'm just trying to decide between a 360 and a Ps3. I'm inclining more towards the ps3, but my friends insist I get a 360. I'm aware the online on 360 is better, but to what extent is it better than Ps3?
And what other things does Ps3 have to offer over the 360?
Thanks for anyone replying, keep the opinions coming (and please, no dumb answers like "Ps3 SUCKS its horrible, or vice versa with the 360)

With CoD4 I played at my friends house on a wired connection, and we got in after like 2 mins. It finds a room automatically. In warhawk, it takes like a few minutes cycling through the pages to find one with a few spaces open. Just about teh same amount of time it takes to get into a GoW match. Just depends on what you like in terms of exclusive games. I like the PS3 media capabilities more than the 360, I use the BD player, and have wireless music/video streaming which I didnt with teh 360 because I didnt buy the wireless adapter.

[mxhp00]

What's different between the 40gb ps3 and the 80gb? besides the size of the hdd. Anything significant? like hdmi ports and what not?

[mrelusive]

What's different between the 40gb ps3 and the 80gb? besides the size of the hdd. Anything significant? like hdmi ports and what not?
Think the biggest difference is the 40GB has no PS2 backwards compatibility whatsoever (it can still play PS1 games from what I've heard, though), and I think it has fewer USB ports.

[rahzel]

40GB has 2 USB ports vs 4 on the 80GB. the 80GB has software PS2 backwards compatibility (not 100% but its compatible with a high percentage of PS2 games) the 40GB only has PS1 BC. the 40GB has 65nm Cell processor so it probably runs cooler, quieter and uses less power. 80GB comes with motorstorm and the 40GB comes with SM3 on blu-ray.

[marcopolo85]

Also my friends 40gig seems like it weighs much less then my 60 gig.

[AlphaTwo]

Also my friends 40gig seems like it weighs much less then my 60 gig.Not that that really matters. It's not really a portable machine either way.

[zydus]

Thanks for the fast reply maebach.
I got another question:
how hard/easy is it to find games or servers to play?
Like say you go play Warhawk or Call of Duty 4, how many "rooms" are usually available?
I'm just trying to decide between a 360 and a Ps3. I'm inclining more towards the ps3, but my friends insist I get a 360. I'm aware the online on 360 is better, but to what extent is it better than Ps3?
And what other things does Ps3 have to offer over the 360?
Thanks for anyone replying, keep the opinions coming (and please, no dumb answers like "Ps3 SUCKS its horrible, or vice versa with the 360)

If you are inclining towards a ps3, then go for it. I have a ps3 and my friends have the 360 it gives us the chance to play the exclusives etc on each other's machines which is fun.

You have to keep in mind tho, that you need to pay for playing online and i think the base 360 doesn't have wireless (i am not sure i think so).

Also in warhawk you can play with upto 4 players on the same server at once, so that's how me and my friends compete (until they get their ps3s, dell's shipping is taking forever). At any given time there are atleast 350 - 400 servers to join for warhawk.

[Andro]

I don't believe this was posted but 2.01 update is available now, anyone notice any difference between 2.00 and 2.01?

[marcopolo85]

I don't believe this was posted but 2.01 update is available now, anyone notice any difference between 2.00 and 2.01?
Its probably just fixing some stability issues. Some people have been complaining that assassins creed has been freezing.

[Andro]

Its probably just fixing some stability issues. Some people have been complaining that assassins creed has been freezing.

oh ok, though i had no problems with AC

[evozero]

to people who've played AC...

do you find this game... pretty buggy? i don't know, i haven't really played it myself but i saw quite a bit of gameplay at my friend's house and I agree with his sentiments in that it seems like they should of finished the game before releasing it. The game seems pretty good overall but a little more time and it looks like it could of been a great game.

On rooftops i lost count of how many times altoir(sp?) had one foot off a rooftop and seemed to just balance there. The guard AI that I saw was pretty remedial too, its like heavenly sword in that they seem to take turns attacking you. Also, i applaud ubisoft for making the main character react/sway as he moves by people in close proximity. push people aside, rotate his body to fit between people, etc. If only this were more fluently as it is a really cool idea. It seems quite off from what I saw.

i'd like to see what people think who've played this more extensively though.

[CFRTim]

Ubisoft delays Haze to 2008:

http://kotaku.com/gaming/playstation-3/ubisoft-delays-haze-to-2008-324971.php

[rollen]

Ubisoft delays Haze to 2008:

http://kotaku.com/gaming/playstation-3/ubisoft-delays-haze-to-2008-324971.php

:lol: i was about to return my extra copy of uncharted for haze... i can wait for this game, too many games out this few months already.

[marcopolo85]

oh ok, though i had no problems with AC

Ok it turns out to be a fix for COD4. My COD4 now runs silky smooth online cuz before it was going really slow and many people would get stuck in the online menu.

[maebach]

Just bought uncharted today, I should start tommorrow morning. I'll let you guys know what I think of it.

[zerocool24]

If you are inclining towards a ps3, then go for it. I have a ps3 and my friends have the 360 it gives us the chance to play the exclusives etc on each other's machines which is fun.

You have to keep in mind tho, that you need to pay for playing online and i think the base 360 doesn't have wireless (i am not sure i think so).

Also in warhawk you can play with upto 4 players on the same server at once, so that's how me and my friends compete (until they get their ps3s, dell's shipping is taking forever). At any given time there are atleast 350 - 400 servers to join for warhawk.


none of the 360s have wireless, you need to buy the ms adapter, unless you were referring to the controllers, then all 360s support wireless controllers.

[zydus]

Oh ok i thot atleast the elite would have built in wifi ... doesn't seem very elite at all now

[ashs]

went to BBV today in Bramalea city center to get Uncharted. Apparently they had 3 copies to rent and 3 to buy but the clerk had no idea where they were (he kept saying they should have been out). Took like 10 minutes but eventually he found them in the back of the store. Is it me or does sony do a horrible marketing job? not just with ps3 games but psp as well (which i also have and love). I shouldn't have been the only one asking for that game, its too good a game.

[sfu_lifer]

went to BBV today in Bramalea city center to get Uncharted. Apparently they had 3 copies to rent and 3 to buy but the clerk had no idea where they were (he kept saying they should have been out). Took like 10 minutes but eventually he found them in the back of the store. Is it me or does sony do a horrible marketing job? not just with ps3 games but psp as well (which i also have and love). I shouldn't have been the only one asking for that game, its too good a game.
Sony's marketing has been atrocious. Last year we get those idiotic avant-garde wannabe ads. How is that nightmare baby suppose to entice us to buy PS3's???
Then they do ads that could be easily mistaken for racism in Europe etc etc.
It's all because they fired those folks who used to do their PS2 adverts just because they also had an account with Microsoft :lol:
Don't forget to take advantage of the sale on some Sony games on PSN (calling all cars, fl0w, etc).

[ashs]

Don't forget to take advantage of the sale on some Sony games on PSN (calling all cars, fl0w, etc).


I would but ive never bought a downloadable game, i want flow and everyday shooter but on a disc.

[AlphaTwo]

Don't forget to take advantage of the sale on some Sony games on PSN (calling all cars, fl0w, etc).I will.

Now, can someone explain to me the game share thing for it? It can't really be that one purchase can be played on 5 system simultaneously, can it?

[rahzel]

PS3 sells over 50k in Japan for the second straight week and outsells the Wii again according to Famitsu. link (http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1096665&postcount=1064)
games like FFXIII, GT5 or MGS4 haven't even arrived yet. i think Sony actually has a chance at overtaking the Wii in overall sales in Japan.

[bmaz]

PS3 sells over 50k in Japan for the second straight week and outsells the Wii again according to Famitsu. link (http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1096665&postcount=1064)
games like FFXIII, GT5 or MGS4 haven't even arrived yet. i think Sony actually has a chance at overtaking the Wii in overall sales in Japan.
Based on 2 weeks worth of sales, 2 versus 50? Given that there is still a Wii shortage it's way too early to make that prediction.
I might be wrong but I believe even the 360 outsold the Wii at least once when Blue Dragon was launched.

[AlphaTwo]

PS3 sells over 50k in Japan for the second straight week and outsells the Wii again according to Famitsu. link (http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1096665&postcount=1064)
games like FFXIII, GT5 or MGS4 haven't even arrived yet. i think Sony actually has a chance at overtaking the Wii in overall sales in Japan.It's still having the after effects of Dynasty Warrior 6, which came out last week.

[maebach]

Wii>PS3>X360 in Japan
Wii>PS3>X360 in NA this holiday season. Its my prediction taht the PS3 will outsell the X360 this holiday season, Im not saying the PS3 will have more sales overall, just the next few months.

[CFRTim]

PS3 sells over 50k in Japan for the second straight week and outsells the Wii again according to Famitsu. link (http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1096665&postcount=1064)
games like FFXIII, GT5 or MGS4 haven't even arrived yet. i think Sony actually has a chance at overtaking the Wii in overall sales in Japan.

Jon Lai?

[rahzel]

Jon Lai?
wtf? instead of posting trolling comments, how about post something so we can have a mature conversation. were at RFD last i checked, not neogaf. the PS3 has not sold this well 2 weeks straight since launch, and the only PS3 titles that appeal to the Japanese market are Minna No Golf, Gundam and Dynasty Warriors. MGS4, GT5 and FF are HUGE in Japan and they haven't even been released yet. its obvious the cheaper 40GB SKU along with the price drops have sparked the sales in Japan. i think its fair to say that Sony has a chance at overtaking Nintendo again.

anyway, UT3 for PS3 has gone gold!
Folks,

The PlayStation 3 version of Unreal Tournament 3 has gone gold! We got news last night that Unreal Tournament 3 has been approved by SCEA and has been released to North American manufacturing.

Midway has started talking to retailers to figure out exact timing and they will have a formal announcement early next week when everyone is back from the Thanksgiving holiday. My guess is that Midway will start shipping the title to North American retailers on Monday December 10th and it could show up in stores as early as December 11th but more likely toward the middle of that week.

I think PS3 owners are going to really enjoy UT3 this holiday so make sure you get it on your shopping list!

For PAL territories, specifically UK and Europe, we have a few localization-related tasks to complete and then we should be starting the certification process pretty soon. My best guess is early next year (January or February) for the game to ship over there.

[marcopolo85]

the sudden surge of games is really hurting the wallet. Too bad all these games couldnt have been spread through out the year..... oh well :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

[ashs]

Been playing Drake's Fortune today and man I love the game. Im on chapter 4 and dont want the game to end at all. It does have gears of war elements but also with that tomb raider flair (well tomb raider one anyways because i didnt like the other ones). Amazing game so far, anyone know what the jars/pots are for though? any importance? I destroy them but they got nothing in them.

[rollen]

anyway, UT3 for PS3 has gone gold!

niiiiiiiice, time to pick up ANOTHER game...geez so many games so little time.

i wonder if they did any "gears of war" elements to unreal.. ie.. covering

[BigBadBoo]

i wonder if they did any "gears of war" elements to unreal.. ie.. covering

Doubt it. UT is all about fast-paced action. Covering makes you such an easy target for someone to melee or rocket your ass.

[maebach]

When does it come out for the PS3? Somebody I know picked up the PC version yesterday.

[CFRTim]

Another borken port for the PS3:

1UP got their hands on the PS3 version of The Orange Box, they found it...largely awful. So awful, in fact, at times it was "downright unplayable"

http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3164539

[evozero]

Another borken port for the PS3:

1UP got their hands on the PS3 version of The Orange Box, they found it...largely awful. So awful, in fact, at times it was "downright unplayable"

http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3164539

this is quite disappointing. i haven't played HL2 at all and was hoping to for this to be my opportunity. they should delay it and release when it's done.

[rahzel]

i would wait until the final release gets out for reviews and see what various sites have to say. but that does not look good... EA continues to struggle with the PS3 architecture. i think the best platform to get Orange Box on is PC though. it's not a very demanding game and its best with kb/m imo.

[ashs]

if i was sony i'd tell ea games to fuq off.

[sfu_lifer]

if i was sony i'd tell ea games to fuq off.

EA support was one of the big reasons/what killed the Sega Saturn and what helped them a ton too on PS2. Look back at the PS2 launch and what game did they demo on kiosks that drew raves? I remember it way back when as that snowboard game.
Sony owes EA bigtime (EA Squaresoft at the time). It's not EA's intention to screw over the PS3. Blame the results due to the difficult architecture on Sony. Programmers, contrary to armchair opinions of college students everywhere, are NOT a dime a dozen. Especially talented ones.
As for consoles selling in NA:
Wii >> 360 > PS3. I doubt that pricedrop will carry them over the top this holiday season. The November NPD numbers should be very interesting.

[ashs]

EA support was one of the big reasons/what killed the Sega Saturn and what helped them a ton too on PS2. Look back at the PS2 launch and what game did they demo on kiosks that drew raves? I remember it way back when as that snowboard game.
Sony owes EA bigtime (EA Squaresoft at the time). It's not EA's intention to screw over the PS3. Blame the results due to the difficult architecture on Sony. Programmers, contrary to armchair opinions of college students everywhere, are NOT a dime a dozen. Especially talented ones.
As for consoles selling in NA:
Wii >> 360 > PS3. I doubt that pricedrop will carry them over the top this holiday season. The November NPD numbers should be very interesting.

nicely said, i guess I'm just peeved because i wanted the orange box myself. Ow well, i guess theirs always the pc version.

[rahzel]

i agree that this holiday season, Sony will be last in North America anyway. Sony does have a shot at beating at least MS in Europe, especially with the release of Singstar (released in Europe, delayed for NA). and Japan could also be close as you can see by the recent sales. so overall, i think Sony has a chance at staying close in holiday sales. all they really need to do is stay close if they don't want to be dead last this generation. 2008 is when i think Sony will really build momentum.

i'm really curious to see what kind of impact on sales the 40GB will have in NA. it obviously sparked sales over in Japan... most of the sales of the ~56k in that week were 40GB PS3's.

[evozero]

i would wait until the final release gets out for reviews and see what various sites have to say. but that does not look good... EA continues to struggle with the PS3 architecture. i think the best platform to get Orange Box on is PC though. it's not a very demanding game and its best with kb/m imo.

Valve needs to take a hint from developers like infinity ward.

If this game is bad as 1up says it is, i hope it bombs completely to give valve/EA the hint that people don't want to buy sloppy seconds versions of great games. Imo if you are going to just half ass it, keep it x360/pc exclusive.

[AlphaTwo]

Valve needs to take a hint from developers like infinity ward.

If this game is bad as 1up says it is, i hope it bombs completely to give valve/EA the hint that people don't want to buy sloppy seconds versions of great games. Imo if you are going to just half ass it, keep it x360/pc exclusive.Gabe Newell has repeatedly called the PS3 a waste of time, and clearly with them not wanting to touch it and handed over to EA for porting, it's probably EA's problem that they wanted to get the game on the PS3, just because they "should".

[CFRTim]

i think Sony actually has a chance at overtaking the Wii in overall sales in Japan.

and Japan could also be close as you can see by the recent sales. so overall, i think Sony has a chance at staying close in holiday sales.

:rolleyes: How quickly your predictions change; you shouldn't care so much about sales, and just enjoy the games

[CFRTim]

Valve needs to take a hint from developers like infinity ward.

Infinity Ward studio head on COD4 for the PS3

We had our best programmers on the PS3 [version of Call of Duty] and it shows...
Burn! I wouldn't want to be an Xbox 360 or PC programmer at Infinity Ward at the moment,because, no matter what Zampella's been telling you behind closed doors, you are not his "favowit wittle progwammer."

This is a "nice way" to say the PS3 is a ***** to program for


http://www.gamesradar.com/us/ps3/game/news/article.jsp?sectionId=1006&articleId=2007112111543578009&releaseId=2007042715365068067

[mart242]

This is a "nice way" to say the PS3 is a ***** to program for

But look at uncharted, ratchet & clank, .. beautiful games. It can't be that hard to program, it's just that EA (and others) wants to be able to make an easy port with no effort (ie: quick way to make $$$)

[CFRTim]

But look at uncharted, ratchet & clank, .. beautiful games. It can't be that hard to program, it's just that EA (and others) wants to be able to make an easy port with no effort (ie: quick way to make $$$)

Cut your investments and maximize your profit. What company would think of that

[shannn]

Cut your investments and maximize your profit. What company would think of that

That's true, all companies want to yield maximum profits. It is just a shame that these companies don't have the confidence/'balls' to develop something completely new anymore, and these companies aren't willing to take these big risks neccessary to truly make big profits.

I mean some companies do have that confidence that their product will succeed (who could have imagined Guitar Hero being so popular?), but most other companies just rehash the same things, or port game after game after game to system after system.

Also, it would be nice if a 3rd party developer would just focus on one system (any system) and have confidence that their game will succeed, instead of worrying about whether they will be able to turn a profit, hence all these crappy ports.

It's nice to see 3rd party developers like the ones working on MGS and FFXIII having confidence that their products will sell and move systems to make maximum profits instead of doing a half decent job and just putting out onto as many systems as possible. Let's hope games like these succeed so that companies will put out more of these 'risky' games.

[rahzel]

:rolleyes: How quickly your predictions change; you shouldn't care so much about sales, and just enjoy the games
umm, i wasn't talking about the same thing. the first quote, i was talking about when its all said and done and the console war of this generation is done, how Sony will fair against Nintendo in Japan. the second quote, i was specifically talking about holiday sales for this year. way to take my quotes of context, smartass. :rolleyes: i thought i was quite clear, i guess i should expect trolls like you to find a way to stir things up.

[CFRTim]

:arrowu: Why are you so fixeded on sales? You got money invested in sony stocks?

[rahzel]

i'm not really, but its definitely a popular topic amongst console forum talk if you look elsewhere. i do admit i have some interest in them, because as i only own a PS3, i know user base is important if you want to have good third-party support from developers/publishers. so its not like i have stock in Sony or i work for them or anything, but as a gamer and an owner of their console, i do have some interest in their sales figures.

[Vertigo]

Infinity Ward studio head on COD4 for the PS3

We had our best programmers on the PS3 [version of Call of Duty] and it shows...
Burn! I wouldn't want to be an Xbox 360 or PC programmer at Infinity Ward at the moment,because, no matter what Zampella's been telling you behind closed doors, you are not his "favowit wittle progwammer."

This is a "nice way" to say the PS3 is a ***** to program for


http://www.gamesradar.com/us/ps3/game/news/article.jsp?sectionId=1006&articleId=2007112111543578009&releaseId=2007042715365068067

You should probably quote your source (http://kotaku.com/gaming/shop-talk/cod4-used-best-coders-for-ps3-version-325423.php) if you're going to repeat what they say verbatim.

[CFRTim]

You should probably quote your source (http://kotaku.com/gaming/shop-talk/cod4-used-best-coders-for-ps3-version-325423.php) if you're going to repeat what they say verbatim.

So do I lose any points, or get penalized for posting the wronk ling (i posted what kotaku linked on the article, instead of the link to the kotaku article itself)

[Setz]

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/6245/hpim07121024x776bo7.jpg

I do not regret this.

[maebach]

Solid library. I got:

NBA 2K8
Warhawk
Uncharted:Drakes Fortune (really good game)

[sfu_lifer]

The only dud in that picture is FEAR.
And yes, the PS3 is hard to program for. Effort IS being put in. It's just the super talented and usually PS3-centric that are able to get beautiful graphics out of it so far. The others will catch up at some point to acceptable levels.
Do you guys honestly think these programmers aim to make the graphics suck on purpose or don't put in many hours of overtime to make it work?

[BigBadBoo]

The only dud in that picture is FEAR.
And yes, the PS3 is hard to program for. Effort IS being put in. It's just the super talented and usually PS3-centric that are able to get beautiful graphics out of it so far. The others will catch up at some point to acceptable levels.
Do you guys honestly think these programmers aim to make the graphics suck on purpose or don't put in many hours of overtime to make it work?

Well let us look at it from the view of the programmer:

They make the same amount or less than their other fellows in the software market. They don't usually get any benefits out of working on a hit game other than being credited for it (seriously, does anyone care who programmed for Gears, or who programmed for God of War?). They might get bonuses though. But they do work overtime, and it is widely accepted throughout the industry to not pay for overtime.

Now these guys can choose to work on something relatively easy like the 360, or work their ass off on something hard like the PS3. But they realize that they get no special benefit which platform they work on. Seriously, the company execs aren't going to give them more bonuses or any special promotion for working on something harder. They are expected to do their work regardless.

So people can call them lazy or whatever, but at the end of the day, these guys do not have any incentive to work twice as hard for the same result.

At your work if you had a choice on working on something easy or hard, which would you pick? Understand that you'll have to work weekends, and stay late and your pay won't rise in any way.

[BigBadBoo]

Valve needs to take a hint from developers like infinity ward.



Valve doesn't need to take hint from anyone. They make good games. They focus on gameplay, which is what matters most. If they don't want to spend their resources just for Sony's sake, they don't have to. It should be Sony that ought to help out Valve, just like how they helped out Epic with UT.

[BigBadBoo]

That's true, all companies want to yield maximum profits. It is just a shame that these companies don't have the confidence/'balls' to develop something completely new anymore, and these companies aren't willing to take these big risks neccessary to truly make big profits.

I mean some companies do have that confidence that their product will succeed (who could have imagined Guitar Hero being so popular?), but most other companies just rehash the same things, or port game after game after game to system after system.

Also, it would be nice if a 3rd party developer would just focus on one system (any system) and have confidence that their game will succeed, instead of worrying about whether they will be able to turn a profit, hence all these crappy ports.

It's nice to see 3rd party developers like the ones working on MGS and FFXIII having confidence that their products will sell and move systems to make maximum profits instead of doing a half decent job and just putting out onto as many systems as possible. Let's hope games like these succeed so that companies will put out more of these 'risky' games.

It's partly our fault, as gamers. Look at some of the hot titles this year: COD4, Bioshock, Halo 3, Mass Effect.

Most are shooters. They are successful because partly they are easier to develop than other genres. And we tend to go for those. Honestly, COD4 does not bring anything new to the table, and is scripted like crazy, but we all love it. Halo 3 doesn't bring anything new, yet it sold like crazy.

And we criticize the other types of games. Assassin's Creed didn't make much of an impact. Uncharted doesn't seem to be moving much. Heavenly Sword wasn't a hit either. Yet all 3 games are really good, but fall short on a few things.

Instead of praising these games, we criticize, and instead spend the money on the shooters. What happens is that the Execs see the sale numbers, and end up budgeting only shooters. And so, we get less games like Assasin's Creed, or Uncharted, and more games like Fear, Blacksite, COD4, Rainbow Six, Halo (ie. all shooters).

[sfu_lifer]

Well let us look at it from the view of the programmer:

They make the same amount or less than their other fellows in the software market. They don't usually get any benefits out of working on a hit game other than being credited for it (seriously, does anyone care who programmed for Gears, or who programmed for God of War?). They might get bonuses though. But they do work overtime, and it is widely accepted throughout the industry to not pay for overtime.

Now these guys can choose to work on something relatively easy like the 360, or work their ass off on something hard like the PS3. But they realize that they get no special benefit which platform they work on. Seriously, the company execs aren't going to give them more bonuses or any special promotion for working on something harder. They are expected to do their work regardless.

So people can call them lazy or whatever, but at the end of the day, these guys do not have any incentive to work twice as hard for the same result.

At your work if you had a choice on working on something easy or hard, which would you pick? Understand that you'll have to work weekends, and stay late and your pay won't rise in any way.
That's the reality of the situation however. These are looked upon as glamorous positions just before they go into University. And yes, it CAN pay well if you know what you're doing.
If these guys meet some joe blow off the street, programmer of Oracle 9i versus programmer of Gears of War, guess who'll get guys shaking their hands?
At the end of the day, these videogame programmers do it out of love for videogames. I know quite a few who've been in the industry for over a decade and still love what they do despite the insane deadlines and hours they put in (not to mention they've got family).

[CFRTim]

Well let us look at it from the view of the programmer:

They make the same amount or less than their other fellows in the software market. They don't usually get any benefits out of working on a hit game other than being credited for it (seriously, does anyone care who programmed for Gears, or who programmed for God of War?). They might get bonuses though. But they do work overtime, and it is widely accepted throughout the industry to not pay for overtime.

Now these guys can choose to work on something relatively easy like the 360, or work their ass off on something hard like the PS3. But they realize that they get no special benefit which platform they work on. Seriously, the company execs aren't going to give them more bonuses or any special promotion for working on something harder. They are expected to do their work regardless.

So people can call them lazy or whatever, but at the end of the day, these guys do not have any incentive to work twice as hard for the same result.

At your work if you had a choice on working on something easy or hard, which would you pick? Understand that you'll have to work weekends, and stay late and your pay won't rise in any way.

Very well said, but most people tend to jump to conclusions, and in the process they overlook the things you've pointed out (the ones responsible for the end result)

[ashs]

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/6245/hpim07121024x776bo7.jpg

I do not regret this.

as much as i love COD4 multiplayer, and eye of judgment, i havnt touched any other ps3 games since Uncharted. Im at the part with the amazing horizon and ocean for a while i was just admiring the detail. I hope they sell enough to make a sequel.

[sfu_lifer]

as much as i love COD4 multiplayer, and eye of judgment, i havnt touched any other ps3 games since Uncharted. Im at the part with the amazing horizon and ocean for a while i was just admiring the detail. I hope they sell enough to make a sequel.

This is a title that will keep on selling even if it sells slowly at first. Quality games usually do that especially for a software starved console.

[Setz]

as much as i love COD4 multiplayer, and eye of judgment, i havnt touched any other ps3 games since Uncharted. Im at the part with the amazing horizon and ocean for a while i was just admiring the detail. I hope they sell enough to make a sequel.

As much as I like Uncharted, there's no real gameplay advancement. I'm not too far in (about 2 hours, and my game completion is 23% :confused: ), and really there's been platforming and shooting. Nothing else.

Although it is a magnificantly beautiful game and deserves higher than it's 8.0/10 on Gamespot, I've found myself playing Oblivion and Call of Duty 4 the most of my 5~ days of PS3 ownership.

[nden]

COD4, MGS4, GTA4

Sure is my buy list :)

[maebach]

Im excited for MGS

[Setz]

The only dud in that picture is FEAR.
And yes, the PS3 is hard to program for. Effort IS being put in. It's just the super talented and usually PS3-centric that are able to get beautiful graphics out of it so far. The others will catch up at some point to acceptable levels.
Do you guys honestly think these programmers aim to make the graphics suck on purpose or don't put in many hours of overtime to make it work?

FEAR is my favorite PC shooter, but I have to agree with you. Although the game is essentially the same, the controls kill it. The PS3 analog sensitivity is no match for that of a mouse.

[evozero]

I picked up uncharted on friday. Really, really fun game.

I hope to get UT3 for xmas bringing my massive ps3 game collection to:

Warhawk
R&C: ToD
Uncharted
UT3

I'll also buy sigma & dirt when i can find them for under $25.

[uddinf]

I have owned the PS3 since launch day and I Finally purchased my first PS3 game, Uncharted. Really enjoying it so far.

I also pre-ordered GTA4 and MGS4 by trading in a few games that were losing value pretty fast...

I don't want to start a whole debate here, but are there any OBJECTIVE opinions (ie: actual proven quotes/information on the web) regarding if GTA4 will be better on the 360 or PS3?

[rdtx2002]

I have owned the PS3 since launch day and I Finally purchased my first PS3 game, Uncharted. Really enjoying it so far.

I also pre-ordered GTA4 and MGS4 by trading in a few games that were losing value pretty fast...

I don't want to start a whole debate here, but are there any OBJECTIVE opinions (ie: actual proven quotes/information on the web) regarding if GTA4 will be better on the 360 or PS3?

i would bank on PS3 just because there is potential to have more 'things' due to disc capacity

[zerocool24]

yah but isnt microsoft gonna be offering downloadable content for it, not sure if the ps3 will be.

[xjohnx]

anyone else's system freeze a lot lately? I mainly use it to watch DVD's and it seems since the 2.0 patch it freezes quite a bit. not within DVD's but at the main menu.

[marcopolo85]

anyone else's system freeze a lot lately? I mainly use it to watch DVD's and it seems since the 2.0 patch it freezes quite a bit. not within DVD's but at the main menu.

No but i have had it freeze during Assassins creed but it was a weird freeze. All of the characters/people on the streets froze but i was still able to revolve the camera around. Did that twice so far.

[AlphaTwo]

anyone else's system freeze a lot lately? I mainly use it to watch DVD's and it seems since the 2.0 patch it freezes quite a bit. not within DVD's but at the main menu.2.0 was really unstable. Update to 2.01 immediately. They've fixed that up.

[Setz]

I picked up uncharted on friday. Really, really fun game.

I hope to get UT3 for xmas bringing my massive ps3 game collection to:

Warhawk
R&C: ToD
Uncharted
UT3

I'll also buy sigma & dirt when i can find them for under $25.

Didn't UT3 get pushed back to Q1 2008?

[rahzel]

Didn't UT3 get pushed back to Q1 2008?
Epic (the developers of the game) never said it was confirmed for a 2008 release - they said they were doing everything they can to release it before this years end but they won't release it until its done. but Midway (the publisher) expected it to be delayed until 2008. Mark Rein (from Epic) himself confirmed that it is going to be released this year, on December 10th on PS3.

[CFRTim]

:arrowu: Yup, the game (UT3) went gold, so it should be out before Xmas. However, what Mark Rain has to say about anything....... well this guy's joke

[Setz]

I keep seeing this FragFX mouse thing for PS3 in flyers for Best Buy and Futureshop. Is this thing any good? I noticed I can't use my USB keyboard & mouse on PS3 to play shooters, but this product says in it's description it works with "all PS3 games". It's bloody 49.99, as much as a game.

[Deals Deals Deals]

I keep seeing this FragFX mouse thing for PS3 in flyers for Best Buy and Futureshop. Is this thing any good? I noticed I can't use my USB keyboard & mouse on PS3 to play shooters, but this product says in it's description it works with "all PS3 games". It's bloody 49.99, as much as a game.

Check amazon.com for some user reviews.

[rahzel]

just got Drake and wow... this is the best looking console game released so far imo. the only game that has it beat is Crysis. i personally haven't played Crysis yet, so i can't compare. but i'm amazed at how good Drake looks. i'm on chapter 6 and up to this point, most of it i haven't seen before from videos etc. the demo level looks great, but everything else i've played looks way better. the visuals aren't perfect however - there is some tearing, very minor slowdowns, textures take a few seconds to load at the start of a level, and there are some collision issues (like all the vegetation doesn't move when Drake walks through it). other than that, wow!

[Setz]

just got Drake and wow... this is the best looking console game released so far imo. the only game that has it beat is Crysis. i personally haven't played Crysis yet, so i can't compare. but i'm amazed at how good Drake looks. i'm on chapter 6 and up to this point, most of it i haven't seen before from videos etc. the demo level looks great, but everything else i've played looks way better. the visuals aren't perfect however - there is some tearing, very minor slowdowns, textures take a few seconds to load at the start of a level, and there are some collision issues (like all the vegetation doesn't move when Drake walks through it). other than that, wow!

The only issue I had with Drake's Fortune was sound problems. Sometimes I may jump from high up, and land soundly, and like 5 seconds later I'd hear Drake yell as if he jumped. A lot of sound delays, and on a few occasions I've had garbled nonsense.

[CouchPotato]

I've played through Uncharted 4 times now. Once on normal. Then on hard. Then on crushing. And a final pass to finish collecting the medal points and treasures. Then for fun, I walked around with unlimited ammo and the wesson.

The only time I noticed tearing is when the camera pans up when Drake first sees the U-Boat. I think I may have had frame rate slowdowns twice, but I don't recall where in the game. Incredibly minor in relation to the quality of this game. All in all, I thought the game was incredibly robust.

I thought they did a great job at hiding the load times. There are a few moments when Drake walks slowly. I think that's when the game is loading. I'd rather have that than a screen that says "loading" though.

All other game designers should look at Uncharted to see how to give the player a seamless experience intermixing well integrated cutscenes (that matched the look and feel of the in-game engine) and no obvious loading times.

The only thing I wished is that the very beginning cutscene had a "Drake's Fortune" title. That way, playing the game from start to finish would be like watching a movie all the way from opening title to closing credits.

[uddinf]

I like Uncharted but I don't think its a very good looking game. I wasn't as impressed as most other people. One thing that stood out to me was the very geometrically shaped rocks everywhere in the game. Some of the plant life and stuff is pretty repetitive too. I was more impressed with COD4 visually.

[evozero]

I just finished uncharted. Easily the most fun i've had with my ps3, period.

also, ign has hands on with orange box for ps3

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/837/837808p1.html

Before you freak, know that in my time playing The Orange Box on PS3, I only encountered a few truly troubling framerate issues. For the bulk of my playtime, the pieces of The Orange Box run fine. Sure, there's more hitching than on 360, but I was still drawn in to the dense world Valve created. The technical issues aren't going to be enough to deter anyone who wants to enjoy Orange Box on PS3. Unless you require your games to never dip below 30fps, you should not strike The Orange Box off your PS3 holiday wish list.

[sfu_lifer]

One thing I'm not enjoying with Uncharted is the gunplay. Headshots still don't register properly and the enemy AI can be annoying at times.
Still, hands down one of the better gaming experiences I've had this year.

[outkastland]

I was about to buy Unchartered but instead bought a 360 Elite. All I can say is Mass Effect........ oh man is it ever juicy... PS3 is getting Linux as soon as I have time.... to busy with Mass Effect hehe..

[rfdghost]

I keep seeing this FragFX mouse thing for PS3 in flyers for Best Buy and Futureshop. Is this thing any good? I noticed I can't use my USB keyboard & mouse on PS3 to play shooters, but this product says in it's description it works with "all PS3 games". It's bloody 49.99, as much as a game.

depends on the game but Unreal tournament 3 supposedly has keyboard mouse support.

[sfu_lifer]

I was about to buy Unchartered but instead bought a 360 Elite. All I can say is Mass Effect........ oh man is it ever juicy... PS3 is getting Linux as soon as I have time.... to busy with Mass Effect hehe..

Don't get your hopes up with Linux on the PS3 too much. I took it off mine after really trying to live with it for a week. The 256MB is too limiting plus they can't really take advantage of the GPU AFAIK it's still locked out. My 3.5year old tabletPC runs Linux faster than the PS3 for the apps that I would use it for.

And why did you buy an Elite when you could've used that money to buy a Prem and use the leftover for Uncharted ;)

I actually prefer Mass Effect's overall look to Uncharted. Both games look fantastic and the shining examples of graphics on each console's offerings.

[CouchPotato]

I was about to buy Unchartered but instead bought a 360 Elite. All I can say is Mass Effect........ oh man is it ever juicy... PS3 is getting Linux as soon as I have time.... to busy with Mass Effect hehe..

Huh?

So instead of buying a $60 game, you instead spent $560 on a system + game? Or do you not even have a PS3 to begin with?

The thing with 360 games is that most of them end up on the PC. Considering the past pattern of 360 games that end up on the PC, EA's purchase of Bioware, Bioware's past history of releasing PC versions of their console games, and Bioware's own non-denial of a PC version, there is a very likely probability that Mass Effect will come to the PC in 2008.

Also, Mass Effect has some performance issues on the 360 and PCs are probably better equipped to handle RPGs in general so I think playing this title on a PC would be a smoother and more enjoyable experience.

But with Sony owned IP like Uncharted, R&C, Heavenly Sword, etc. you will never be able to play them without a PS3. The only thing is maybe you'll get spinoffs for the PSP, but that's about it.

[outkastland]

Don't get your hopes up with Linux on the PS3 too much. I took it off mine after really trying to live with it for a week. The 256MB is too limiting plus they can't really take advantage of the GPU AFAIK it's still locked out. My 3.5year old tabletPC runs Linux faster than the PS3 for the apps that I would use it for.

And why did you buy an Elite when you could've used that money to buy a Prem and use the leftover for Uncharted ;)

I actually prefer Mass Effect's overall look to Uncharted. Both games look fantastic and the shining examples of graphics on each console's offerings.

To be honest, I really prefer the black machine and having the extra hard drive space. The hard drive is 200 bucks and the elite come with the hard drive for only 100 bucks more. Also you get the HDMI cable. Also did the trade in deal at EB Games. I have put Uncharted down as a gift idea for me this year. To be honest though Uncharted doesn't look that spectacular to me.

I heard a rumor that the next GTA will have a 40 gb download on the xbox for a crapload of extra content. I know xbox has gotten rights to some exclusive extra episode content.

During Microsoft's 2006 E3 press conference on 9 May, it was announced that Grand Theft Auto IV would be available for the Xbox 360 and that Rockstar Games will offer exclusive episodic content via Xbox Live for the Xbox 360 version. This had been confirmed by Rockstar, announcing two extra, exclusive, episodes. On 28 February 2007 it was announced that exclusive episodic content will be introduced starting in 2008.

Peter Moore, the then head of Microsoft's Interactive Entertainment Business division announced that Rockstar Games is working on two GTA IV downloadable packs exclusively for the Xbox 360, which will be released after the full game. Moore described downloadable content as "epic episode packs", and not just extra cars or characters. A press release during the conference said that the packs would add "hours of entirely new gameplay" to the game. The official Xbox website states that these episodes will last a minimum of 10 hours. Details on the pricing of these downloads have not yet been revealed, though it would almost certainly not be released for free, as Take-Two Interactive's former CEO, Paul Eibeler, have said numerous times that these downloads would provide "additional revenue streams" to the company.

As part of a conference call following the release of Take-Two Interactive's Second Quarter Fiscal 2007 financial results, the company's Chief Financial Officer, Lainie Goldstein revealed that Microsoft was paying a total of US$50 Million for exclusivity of this content split equally between the two packs. The payments can be found referenced in the company's Second Quarter Fiscal 2007 financial results as "Deferred revenue".

[outkastland]

Huh?

So instead of buying a $60 game, you instead spent $560 on a system + game? Or do you not even have a PS3 to begin with?

The thing with 360 games is that most of them end up on the PC. Considering the past pattern of 360 games that end up on the PC, EA's purchase of Bioware, Bioware's past history of releasing PC versions of their console games, and Bioware's own non-denial of a PC version, there is a very likely probability that Mass Effect will come to the PC in 2008.

Also, Mass Effect has some performance issues on the 360 and PCs are probably better equipped to handle RPGs in general so I think playing this title on a PC would be a smoother and more enjoyable experience.

But with Sony owned IP like Uncharted, R&C, Heavenly Sword, etc. you will never be able to play them without a PS3. The only thing is maybe you'll get spinoffs for the PSP, but that's about it.

I do have the ps3 as well. There is just nothing good right now to play on it.

Sure there is a good chance Mass Effect will come out for pc. But I would rather enjoy it in my living room on the 42" HDTV and 7.1 surround sound Onkyo HT-SR800. Personally I have not had a single problem with the game like some have reported. Graphics are stunning and smooth on my set.

[CouchPotato]

I do have the ps3 as well. There is just nothing good right now to play on it.


Uncharted


Sure there is a good chance Mass Effect will come out for pc. But I would rather enjoy it in my living room on the 42" HDTV and 7.1 surround sound Onkyo HT-SR800. Personally I have not had a single problem with the game like some have reported. Graphics are stunning and smooth on my set.

Yeah, but you end up sitting further from the display, so the two are quite similar.

Also, the console is running that game at most at 720p (maybe not even) and upscaling to 1080. On a PC, you get native resolution. PC version will always beat the console version graphics wise. (Granted the hardware is a lot more expensive). And just about any sound card can do 7.1..

RPGs have so much inventory and skill management. I'd rather use a mouse anyway.

[outkastland]

Uncharted



Yeah, but you end up sitting further from the display, so the two are quite similar.

Also, the console is running that game at most at 720p (maybe not even) and upscaling to 1080. On a PC, you get native resolution. PC version will always beat the console version graphics wise. (Granted the hardware is a lot more expensive). And just about any sound card can do 7.1..

RPGs have so much inventory and skill management. I'd rather use a mouse anyway.

Oh I understand what you are saying about mouse clicking.

Though My TV is not super far away. It is 42"LCD HDTV. The surround sound I have setup is 7.1. Only 5.1 is broadcast in games right now. Mass Effect is made for 1080p. Mine is running at 1080i through HDMI. I can assure you of the quality.

Don't get me wrong. Uncharted is a great looking game. I will pick it up (most likely is will be given to me as a gift this xmas) however I like Mass Effect much more. I prefer rpg's, I also love sci fi, not to mention I love Bioware and the work they put out a lot. I buy their games as much as I buy Square Soft/ Square Enix games.

I am by no means knocking the PS3, I love my machine a ton. Just sadly the 360 has the game I want to play the most right now. But to be honest, the more I play the 360 the more I like it.

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[CouchPotato]

Mass Effect is made for 1080p.

The game is rendered with 720 lines of resolution and then upscaled to 1080. It's not natively 720. On a PC however, 1920x1200 is 1200 actual lines. I'm sure 720 looks fine. But 1680x1050 or 1920x1200 is better.

To be fair, PS3 games are done the same way.

But Uncharted will never see a PC release. While many 360 games usually do.

[outkastland]

The game is rendered with 720 lines of resolution and then upscaled to 1080. It's not natively 720. On a PC however, 1920x1200 is 1200 actual lines. I'm sure 720 looks fine. But 1680x1050 or 1920x1200 is better.

To be fair, PS3 games are done the same way.

But Uncharted will never see a PC release. While many 360 games usually do.

Sorry you are correct. Mass Effect is 720p. I double checked on Bioware's ME forum. I personally switched mine from 720p to 1080i as I found i like 1080i better. I have the vga cable, ran it through my computer monitor and personally the only difference I could see is the fact it was on a small 20" widescreen. Looked much better on the TV screen. Only thing I did notice though is that even though the component cables do up to 1080i. Games still look better through the HDMI cable.

I do agree PS3 games are done the same. In fact they will get better. Sony is pushing for 1080p games so technically they should look a lot better.

I totally agree that many 360 games will end up on pc. For me I just want to play and enjoy it now. I don't want to wait a couple years. So far Mass Effect is designed exclusively for the 360. I also just love being able to lounge on a big comfy couch while gaming.

[Menace]

Hey, I really like the paint job in your room. It would go well with my bedroom. Too bad I already re-painted it last month :cry:

Though My TV is not super far away. It is 42"LCD HDTV. The surround sound I have setup is 7.1. Only 5.1 is broadcast in games right now. Mass Effect is made for 1080p. Mine is running at 1080i through HDMI. I can assure you of the quality.

[outkastland]

Hey, I really like the paint job in your room. It would go well with my bedroom. Too bad I already re-painted it last month :cry:

Thanks man :) I have a thing for the Asian theme and felt the paint color suited the decor and furniture in the room. Luckily when I moved in to the apartment one of the things I asked the landlord prior was to pick the colors of paint in the place. So I got lucky there. To paint my place would cost a fortune. It's about 1700 square feet lol.

[BigBadBoo]

But Uncharted will never see a PC release. While many 360 games usually do.

Not trying to start a fight here, but if I had a choice I would pick console versions over the PC version. I bought COD4 for my console even though my PC can run it at higher specs. I rather sit on the couch and play it on my big screen TV, than sit in front of the computer (where I spend 50+ hours working all week). The only games I would not buy the console versions are RTS games.

Also, as a developer, supporting multiple platforms is better than a single one right now. I am sure those guys who made Uncharted wouldn't mind having a 360 or PC version to expand their market. It is just that they choose not to. Same for Bioware or Epic, I am sure they wouldn't have mind selling Gears or Mass Effect on the PS3.

[outkastland]

Not trying to start a fight here, but if I had a choice I would pick console versions over the PC version. I bought COD4 for my console even though my PC can run it at higher specs. I rather sit on the couch and play it on my big screen TV, than sit in front of the computer (where I spend 50+ hours working all week). The only games I would not buy the console versions are RTS games.

Also, as a developer, supporting multiple platforms is better than a single one right now. I am sure those guys who made Uncharted wouldn't mind having a 360 or PC version to expand their market. It is just that they choose not to. Same for Bioware or Epic, I am sure they wouldn't have mind selling Gears or Mass Effect on the PS3.

I hear that man, big time! Exactly how I feel. My job involves sitting in front of dual monitors all day long. When I get home all I wanna do is blaze, lounge down on the couch and enjoy the big ass TV and Surround sound. Makes for a very juicy experience compared to sitting in an office chair in my bedroom with crappy computer speakers and tine screen in comparison.

Of course I am not knocking PC's for those that enjoy the PC experience more and invest LOTS into their rigs.

[CouchPotato]

Not trying to start a fight here, but if I had a choice I would pick console versions over the PC version. I bought COD4 for my console even though my PC can run it at higher specs. I rather sit on the couch and play it on my big screen TV, than sit in front of the computer (where I spend 50+ hours working all week). The only games I would not buy the console versions are RTS games.

Also, as a developer, supporting multiple platforms is better than a single one right now. I am sure those guys who made Uncharted wouldn't mind having a 360 or PC version to expand their market. It is just that they choose not to. Same for Bioware or Epic, I am sure they wouldn't have mind selling Gears or Mass Effect on the PS3.

I can understand about wanting to lounge and play in your living room. I was debating more the technical aspects of the game. Theoretically, you could hook up your PC to your living room tv and get a similar experience. Some people use their HTPCs for such a purpose as well. For certain types of games, I still prefer to use a kb/mouse and I hope someday, someone comes up with a good feasible living room solution for the console that uses those controls.

As far as multiple platforms go, Naughty Dog, unlike Epic and Bioware/EA, are not independent developers. They are wholly owned by Sony. They are a first party developer for Sony platforms. Nathan Drake is Sony owned IP. So, Uncharted will never see the light of day on a PC.

[CFRTim]

As far as multiple platforms go, Naughty Dog, unlike Epic and Bioware/EA, are not independent developers. They are wholly owned by Sony. They are a first party developer for Sony platforms. Nathan Drake is Sony owned IP. So, Uncharted will never see the light of day on a PC.

Not true if a PS3 emulator will ever become avail. on the PC ;) you can own IP even from a third party developer (M$, not Epic owns Gears of War) Anyway, this debate is going nowhere. Some people don't like to wait too long to play a game, others enjoy the easy use (and price) of a console.

[outkastland]

Not true if a PS3 emulator will ever become avail. on the PC ;) you can own IP even from a third party developer (M$, not Epic owns Gears of War) Anyway, this debate is going nowhere. Some people don't like to wait too long to play a game, others enjoy the easy use (and price) of a console.

Well a ps2 emulator took 5 years to come out from the time the system was released. So there might be a ps3 emulator some day but man, can you imagine downloading the ps3 games normally on blu ray? 40 gigs or more at a time. Maybe some will be less but those games might suck.

[CouchPotato]

Not true if a PS3 emulator will ever become avail. on the PC ;) you can own IP even from a third party developer (M$, not Epic owns Gears of War) Anyway, this debate is going nowhere. Some people don't like to wait too long to play a game, others enjoy the easy use (and price) of a console.

PS3 emulation won't be feasible for some time. And by the time it does, I imagine the games would be considered abandonware.

I know that IP can be owned and developed by 3rd party. But most of the time, development of exclusive IP projects are funded by Nintendo, Sony or Microsoft. Nintendo and Sony never release for the PC. Microsoft commonly does.

Not only do they release PC versions, they often do so with new exclusive content, which is slightly unfair to the people who supported the console versions. If Microsoft really wanted to sell more 360s, they should stop releasing Vista versions of their games.

[BigBadBoo]

Not only do they release PC versions, they often do so with new exclusive content, which is slightly unfair to the people who supported the console versions. If Microsoft really wanted to sell more 360s, they should stop releasing Vista versions of their games.

Depends on how you look at it. Of course as time progresses, it is better to get the new versions, but if everyone stuck to that idea then we won't get anywhere. For example, all those that bought PS2 way back when it came out are suckers because you can get the the better slim PS2 for $100 with games costing so much less. Just as well, you can probably get a much better PS3 in a few years, so why buy now?

Anyway as for MS wanting to make games for Vista, I think they are only planning to make more money out of it. Vista is their platform, and selling games on that is similar to selling games on the 360. MS makes more money on the software than the hardware.

[rollen]

Depends on how you look at it. Of course as time progresses, it is better to get the new versions, but if everyone stuck to that idea then we won't get anywhere. For example, all those that bought PS2 way back when it came out are suckers because you can get the the better slim PS2 for $100 with games costing so much less. Just as well, you can probably get a much better PS3 in a few years, so why buy now?

Anyway as for MS wanting to make games for Vista, I think they are only planning to make more money out of it. Vista is their platform, and selling games on that is similar to selling games on the 360. MS makes more money on the software than the hardware.

+1 PC market is obviously their bread and butter and i doubt that will ever change.

[CouchPotato]

Depends on how you look at it. Of course as time progresses, it is better to get the new versions, but if everyone stuck to that idea then we won't get anywhere. For example, all those that bought PS2 way back when it came out are suckers because you can get the the better slim PS2 for $100 with games costing so much less. Just as well, you can probably get a much better PS3 in a few years, so why buy now?

Anyway as for MS wanting to make games for Vista, I think they are only planning to make more money out of it. Vista is their platform, and selling games on that is similar to selling games on the 360. MS makes more money on the software than the hardware.

Well, we're veering a bit off topic now, but the whole idea behind the xbox console product was that Microsoft wanted to be in your living room. To provide the software gateway to your home. And the way there was through a game console. Sony had the same idea. Nintendo, not so much. So, on this front, they would do a much better job driving this initiative by keeping the content truly exclusive.

As far as technology progress is concerned, imagine if JK Rowling a year later, released a new version of the last Potter book, but with a new chapter at end. How are fans supposed to feel?

A new PS2 still does the same thing as the original one does really. Smaller, cheaper, less power. But it does the same thing. So, I see your point, but the PS2 example isn't really analagous.

[CFRTim]

As far as technology progress is concerned, imagine if JK Rowling a year later, released a new version of the last Potter book, but with a new chapter at end. How are fans supposed to feel?

This is the most idiotic analogy I came across in a while. How is this of technological concern? What if your mom will have another child, a year later, but it's of the opposite sex. How are you supposed to feel?

[rahzel]

One thing I'm not enjoying with Uncharted is the gunplay. Headshots still don't register properly and the enemy AI can be annoying at times.
Still, hands down one of the better gaming experiences I've had this year.
i still don't see why you have a problem with the headshots. i mean, its definitely harder to get headshots compared to most games, but it seems fine to me. i already got the 100 headshot skill point after about chapter 10 or 11. mind you i was going for headshots 90% of the time, but still. i also got the 5 headshots in a row skill point in my second or third attempt. all you have to do is try to anticipate where the crosshair is going to be before you pop out from cover, then once you pop out, just take your time. i actually find it quite easy to get headshots if its just a 1 on 1 or 1 on 2 battle, especially when you're fighting the pirates (the later enemies are quite a bit more difficult.

[CouchPotato]

This is the most idiotic analogy I came across in a while. How is this of technological concern? What if your mom will have another child, a year later, but it's of the opposite sex. How are you supposed to feel?

It's not a technical concern. I use the word technology simply because the post I was referring to turned what I talking about, i.e. changing content, and termed it technological progress. But really, what I was referring to was content and publishing something like Gears of War on the xbox and then publishing it again, this time with additional levels. Obviously, tech advances. but in terms of content, LOTR is the same text as it was 50 years ago.

[CFRTim]

It's not a technical concern. I use the word technology simply because the post I was referring to turned what I talking about, i.e. changing content, and termed it technological progress. But really, what I was referring to was content and publishing something like Gears of War on the xbox and then publishing it again, this time with additional levels. Obviously, tech advances. but in terms of content, LOTR is the same text as it was 50 years ago.

Yeah, but using your analogy of LOTR, a movie remake of it can be different, for better or worst. Look at the DVD releases alone for that movie, having 2 releases a few months apart with almost an extra hour of footage per episode in the collectors edition. Therefore, additional levels on Gears of War 1 year later on a different platform, is to be expected. How else would you convince some of the 360 customers to buy the game on the PC again. Put it in a shiny box :cheesygri
You just can't compare books with games , music or movies. If that was the case, I would rewrite The Bible again, and oh boy...........


BTW, is this still the PS3 thread, because I don't know where this is going anymore :lol:

[BigBadBoo]

It's not a technical concern. I use the word technology simply because the post I was referring to turned what I talking about, i.e. changing content, and termed it technological progress. But really, what I was referring to was content and publishing something like Gears of War on the xbox and then publishing it again, this time with additional levels. Obviously, tech advances. but in terms of content, LOTR is the same text as it was 50 years ago.

You were trying to differentiate adding content vs. updating technology. Yes there is difference between the two, but in terms of looking at it from the perspective of a customer there is no real difference.

Gears was released last year on the 360. People bought it, enjoyed it, and moved on. Now Epic spent a year adding more content and re-releasing it for the PC. Is that unfair? To who? To the PC guys because they waited 1 extra year, or to the 360 guys because they aren't getting the extra content? See it depends on how you look at it. Also is the extra content worth the wait of 1 year? If it is, then why do people buy games like Guitar Hero 3 or the PS3 console at launch for higher prices? If they can only wait 1 or 2 years, they can get it for much lower prices and get more bang for the buck no? The answer is obvious. People want things right away, waiting is not fun.

So you can argue all you want about how unfair it is for the PC releases to have more content, but it really isn't an issue for most. 360 users get the games earlier. Just look at the whole timed exclusive with games like UT3, GTA4, etc. Why do MS or Sony pay so much for them?

As for your Harry Potter analogy, there is a big difference. In the 360 to PC case, the platform is different, hence the target market is different. In the HP case, the platform is the same (the book), and the target market, the readers, are the same. A better counter example is the HP movies. While they follow the same story, they have much less content compared to the books. Does that mean the people who don't like to read the HP books should be upset? Not really, its a different platform, and the environment and constraints are different: budgets, time constraints, etc.

I am pretty sure most of those who have bought Gears on the 360 don't really care for the extra content. They are too busy playing the latest slew of games. Gears is sooo 2006.

[BigBadBoo]

BTW, is this still the PS3 thread, because I don't know where this is going anymore :lol:

I don't mind arguing sensibly once in a while, instead of those immature insulting arguments we used to be bombarded with a while back. I still check this thread to keep up to date with PS3 news so I know what to do when I get mine soon. :D

[Setz]

Going back to PS3: how is Kane & Lynch? After playing Uncharted and loving the gunplay and general aiming system, I've looked for similar titles. A couple come to mind: The Club and Kane & Lynch. Looking at screens, they're both third person shooters with a lot of action. Since The Club isn't out yet, how's Kane and Lynch?

I've heard a lot of terrible reviews, but then again it looks great.

[BigBadBoo]

Yeah, but using your analogy of LOTR, a movie remake of it can be different, for better or worst. Look at the DVD releases alone for that movie, having 2 releases a few months apart with almost an extra hour of footage per episode in the collectors edition. Therefore, additional levels on Gears of War 1 year later on a different platform, is to be expected. How else would you convince some of the 360 customers to buy the game on the PC again. Put it in a shiny box :cheesygri
You just can't compare books with games , music or movies. If that was the case, I would rewrite The Bible again, and oh boy...........


BTW, is this still the PS3 thread, because I don't know where this is going anymore :lol:

I was annoyed by the LOTR DVD fiasco. I wanted to wait till they had all 3 movies plus all the extra stuff in 1 set, but I ran out of patience and instead just bought all the extended versions. I am happy with it, because god, I can't even sit through just 1 movie anymore. Those damn movies are sooo long.

[sfu_lifer]

i still don't see why you have a problem with the headshots. i mean, its definitely harder to get headshots compared to most games, but it seems fine to me. i already got the 100 headshot skill point after about chapter 10 or 11. mind you i was going for headshots 90% of the time, but still. i also got the 5 headshots in a row skill point in my second or third attempt. all you have to do is try to anticipate where the crosshair is going to be before you pop out from cover, then once you pop out, just take your time. i actually find it quite easy to get headshots if its just a 1 on 1 or 1 on 2 battle, especially when you're fighting the pirates (the later enemies are quite a bit more difficult.

It's not just me. I swear I'm hitting the head but it's registering as a body shot some of the time. If I aim for the neck, then the expected (i.e. a headshot registering) occurs. Each time I aim for the neck area, it's fullproof headshot. That's what bugs me.
Gunplay is a bit substandard IMO on this game (relative to FPS like Resistance, COD4, Halo or even Gears). Everything else comes up aces :D
Say anyone else with a PS3 here getting Rock Band? If so, are you interested in gamesharing the songs? It works according to CAG members.

[Canadianpsycho]

Going back to PS3: how is Kane & Lynch? After playing Uncharted and loving the gunplay and general aiming system, I've looked for similar titles. A couple come to mind: The Club and Kane & Lynch. Looking at screens, they're both third person shooters with a lot of action. Since The Club isn't out yet, how's Kane and Lynch?

I've heard a lot of terrible reviews, but then again it looks great.

The reviews are too hard on it IMHO. Its probably a 7.5-8.0 game. I've played the 360 version.

Aiming system is a lot like Freedom Fighters - you won't accurately headshot a guy at a distance or anything.

The cover system also works just fine when you get used to it. Its not like Gears/Vegas where you can crouch up against any object - you have to be at the edge of the object to take cover.

And people that b*itch about the swearing just annoy me. They're supposed to be vulgar, cutthroat criminals. They don't say please and thank you.

Story is great, presentation and acting is great. If you're looking for cutting edge graphics, looks elsewhere (although they aren't bad by any means). My only complaint is the game is too short (6-8 hours on easy diffiiculty) and there's no online co-op. More of a renter. The multiplayer is kinda interesting but there's too few maps and when I had the game I was basically playing the same group of folks a lot. If you don't like getting backstabbed/teamkilled and throw a fit when it happens the MP is not for you. I like the concept.

[outkastland]

is that an old school version of Broken Saints I spot? :)

Good eye man! Yup that is good ole Broken Saints! All in its flashy goodness. I take it you're a fan?

[sf.]

When you buy an 80GB PS3 with Motorstorm is the game sealed and ready for possible trade-ins somewhere or is it a special bundled version that stores like Blockbuster might not accept? Or maybe its worth keeping....

[maebach]

When you buy an 80GB PS3 with Motorstorm is the game sealed and ready for possible trade-ins somewhere or is it a special bundled version that stores like Blockbuster might not accept? Or maybe its worth keeping....

I though it was a great game. Ive noticed mixed reviews from it, some of my friends really like it, and others, not so much.

[Talamasca]

I'm thinking of getting a 40GB PS3 for Christmas, more as a Blu-Ray player than a video game console. I've been doing some research but it's a little confusing with all the different models of PS3s out there. Two quick questions about the audio/video:

1) My HDMI connection is already being used by my HD-DVD player so the PS3 will be using a component connection. I've read a bit about Image Constraint Token (ICT) but for now, I can still get high-def signals (720p & 1080i) through the component cables, right?

2) Audio will be through an optical cable. Are there any audio restrictions like there are on HD-DVD by using this cable? I assume I can still get 5.1 DD and DTS?

[outkastland]

I'm thinking of getting a 40GB PS3 for Christmas, more as a Blu-Ray player than a video game console. I've been doing some research but it's a little confusing with all the different models of PS3s out there. Two quick questions about the audio/video:

1) My HDMI connection is already being used by my HD-DVD player so the PS3 will be using a component connection. I've read a bit about Image Constraint Token (ICT) but for now, I can still get high-def signals (720p & 1080i) through the component cables, right?

2) Audio will be through an optical cable. Are there any audio restrictions like there are on HD-DVD by using this cable? I assume I can still get 5.1 DD and DTS?

1) Yes however HDMI is much better. You will notice a difference between the 2. Try them both and you will see.

2) You will get surround so long as you have a set that handles it. My ps3 is connected directly to me receiver.

[Yesdear]

[QUOTE=I'm assuming you only have one HDMI port for use otherwise you could easily get more HDMI cables for very cheap. If you want additional HDMI connections maybe you should look into getting an HDMI switcher. They sell them at monoprice and one of the most popular ones is a highly recommended and reviewed 5 x 1 switcher. It lets you use up to 5 different HDMI connections with easy switching between them., with the 6th connection being the one to your TV/Computer monitor. I believe port #5 is the one used for PS3s as most people had issues getting the system to work with the other ports for some reason.[/QUOTE]


I second that. I picked up a 3 x 1 switcher from monoprice and it works great.

Ideally, what we will both want to get is a HDMI switching receiver so we can take advantage of the uncompressed audio and get rid of the optical cables. I will grab one when the prices start to come down.

[shannn]

Payton said the new Metal Gear Solid needs to sell more than a million copies on the first day it goes on sale due to its costly production, but that may be a tough mark to hit given sluggish PS3 sales. (http://www.news.com/Metal-Gear-Solid-4-last-of-the-great-exclusives/2100-1043_3-6220632.html)

I think it can do it, so long as Sony actually does sell its intended 11 or 12M consoles by March (which seems like a lot of ground to make up...), and if Konami does a massive marketing campagn ala Halo 3.

Just out of curiosity, are any of you going to buy a PS3 between now and MGS4's launch for MGS4??

They should really make a collector's edition of the game to help with revenue (I'd pay an extra $10 for a Solid Snake mustache attachment for my face, hahahaha, jk)

[sfu_lifer]

Well if it's a worldwide day1 goal, they have a slim chance of making it.
Week 1 goal, I think it's very doable if they do a worldwide launch of the game.
Just goes to show you how expensive these next-gen games are.
I am not sure if the MGS market extends to semi-casuals like the Halo phenomenon did.
I'll buy one if it's on sale. I refuse to pay MSRP anymore unless it's something like Rock Band.

[shannn]

Well if it's a worldwide day1 goal, they have a slim chance of making it.
Week 1 goal, I think it's very doable if they do a worldwide launch of the game.
Just goes to show you how expensive these next-gen games are.
I am not sure if the MGS market extends to semi-casuals like the Halo phenomenon did.
I'll buy one if it's on sale. I refuse to pay MSRP anymore unless it's something like Rock Band.

It probably won't be under $59.99, but I can definately see BB/FS throwing in some crappy game with it (like how they threw in Superman with Halo3, maybe they will throw in Lair, lol), or even bundling it with some other game that is worthwhile and charging $90 (like what they did with COD4/AC)

Either way, I'll definately pick it up on day 1 for sure

[outkastland]

Payton said the new Metal Gear Solid needs to sell more than a million copies on the first day it goes on sale due to its costly production, but that may be a tough mark to hit given sluggish PS3 sales. (http://www.news.com/Metal-Gear-Solid-4-last-of-the-great-exclusives/2100-1043_3-6220632.html)

I think it can do it, so long as Sony actually does sell its intended 11 or 12M consoles by March (which seems like a lot of ground to make up...), and if Konami does a massive marketing campagn ala Halo 3.

Just out of curiosity, are any of you going to buy a PS3 between now and MGS4's launch for MGS4??

They should really make a collector's edition of the game to help with revenue (I'd pay an extra $10 for a Solid Snake mustache attachment for my face, hahahaha, jk)

I got my PS3 for MGS4 and FF13. Kind of sucks to think that they may be the only real good games left that sony has. I sure hope not but at least I got a 360 also. I just want the games. Though I would prefer to give my money to sony.

[yesman]

I'm thinking of getting a 40GB PS3 for Christmas, more as a Blu-Ray player than a video game console. I've been doing some research but it's a little confusing with all the different models of PS3s out there. Two quick questions about the audio/video:

1) My HDMI connection is already being used by my HD-DVD player so the PS3 will be using a component connection. I've read a bit about Image Constraint Token (ICT) but for now, I can still get high-def signals (720p & 1080i) through the component cables, right?

2) Audio will be through an optical cable. Are there any audio restrictions like there are on HD-DVD by using this cable? I assume I can still get 5.1 DD and DTS?

Does your TV have DVI input? you can go this route, just buy a HDMI to DVI adapter and hook up via DVI.

[jdmkidd]

I got my PS3 for MGS4 and FF13. Kind of sucks to think that they may be the only real good games left that sony has. I sure hope not but at least I got a 360 also. I just want the games. Though I would prefer to give my money to sony.

Yes they still got me brainwashed since the ps2 phase i'd rather give them my money. But if all else fails I got a 360 too.

[rdtx2002]

I got my PS3 for MGS4 and FF13. Kind of sucks to think that they may be the only real good games left that sony has. I sure hope not but at least I got a 360 also. I just want the games. Though I would prefer to give my money to sony.

there are more games that those 2 ;)

[outkastland]

Yes they still got me brainwashed since the ps2 phase i'd rather give them my money. But if all else fails I got a 360 too.

Well as an owner of the 2 I am sure like myself you can tell the difference in quality in the machines. PS3 has so much more to offer. Just sucks that it costs so much for games to be designed for the system.

[CFRTim]

PS3 wins November in Japan:

http://kotaku.com/gaming/console-wars/ps3-wins-november-in-japan-328419.php

[ATLien69]

Anyone know if there is another level to unlock in PAIN??? I'm not even sure what the point is of PAINdemonium, as I keep playing and nothing ever happens...my top score is like 750,000 right now. Having a great 'ole time but there better be mroe levels!!!

[kevin01]

So Haze is being advertised again in flyers (BB's latest) even though the release date on the site says Jan 19 2008. Last time I was in store they had a apology notice up for prematurely advertising it in a previous flyer lol

I think they're going to keep doing this in every week's flyer until release date

edit: seems like it could be pushed back even further to March 2008. Wow.

There was no point of me buying my ps3 on launch... every game's being delayed now

[mark_in_2k]

There was no point of me buying my ps3 on launch... every game's being delayed nowi feel the same. With the exception of Ratchet & Clank, I've yet to play a full priced retail game on my PS3 if it's on the 360. R&C is good, but there's nothing new in there.

Uncharted demo was great, and I will probably get this when it's $40, but nothing more for a quick play through.

[sfu_lifer]

i feel the same. With the exception of Ratchet & Clank, I've yet to play a full priced retail game on my PS3 if it's on the 360. R&C is good, but there's nothing new in there.

Uncharted demo was great, and I will probably get this when it's $40, but nothing more for a quick play through.

It's not that short actually. I'm 5 hours in and just about in the middle of the game. No worse than Gears of War and the graphics are pretty good though not quite as awesome as my friend gushing over it claimed.

Plus you get collection-type achievements to unlock more of the game's extras as you go along which is kind of cool and will ensure I play it again.

[rahzel]

the graphics are that good imo. the textures are the best i've seen, even better than games that use the UE3. i just got Gears of War on PC and many people thought it had the best textures on 360 and the PC has even better textures, but Drake makes them look muddy in comparison. the lighting, shadows, textures, lush environments and attention to detail make this technically a very impressive game. maybe its just not your cup of tea as far as art direction. though i admit it is not perfect as there is some texture pop, tearing, framerate dips at times, but in my books, its the best looking game on console so far. my jaw dropped when i got to chapter 2 or 3 (the one where you see that big ship by the waterfall).

as for the length, it took me 9 hours and 10 minutes on normal mode to finish. thats typical of the genre if not slightly longer than average. there are 4 difficulty settings, 1000 reward points, unlockables like cheats, playable characters, render modes, game modes (like level flip) and 60 treasures to collect so there definitely is some replay value. i understand if you're the type who needs a multiplayer to justify a $60 purchase, but if you own a PS3, you should definitely at least try Uncharted.

[skeletor]

PS3 emulation won't be feasible for some time. And by the time it does, I imagine the games would be considered abandonware.

I know that IP can be owned and developed by 3rd party. But most of the time, development of exclusive IP projects are funded by Nintendo, Sony or Microsoft. Nintendo and Sony never release for the PC. Microsoft commonly does.

Not only do they release PC versions, they often do so with new exclusive content, which is slightly unfair to the people who supported the console versions. If Microsoft really wanted to sell more 360s, they should stop releasing Vista versions of their games.

The PC getting games like Halo 2 or gears of war 1-2 years after xbox release means nothing to xbox users who should already have those games.. Considering M$ makes more money on their OS than gaming it makes sense for them to give people a reason to buy Vista.. In the end nobody loses.. Microsoft only gains.. which is good for xbox 360 users since Bill Gates will have more money to put into Microsoft gaming studios for AAA releases, so they shouldn't complain.

and the only reason I stick with PC is for kb/ mouse, free online for all non mmorpg games and mods.. oh and for those who didn't know, pc's can hookup to your tv just like a 360 and even work with 360 controllers :P

[Setz]

oh and for those who didn't know, pc's can hookup to your tv just like a 360 and even work with 360 controllers :P

Albeit poorly. 360 controller for PC is only good for emulation and some games. I tried playing Counterstrike on that piece of junk and it was crap.

[sf.]

Got my 80GB PS3 from EB today with Call Of Duty 4.
I'll try taking Motorstorm to Blockbuster in the next couple of days to see what they'll give me for it.

[CouchPotato]

The PC getting games like Halo 2 or gears of war 1-2 years after xbox release means nothing to xbox users who should already have those games..

Of course not. But I still got to play Bioshock. And GOW. And I don't need a 360 to do it.

If MS didn't release their 360 'exclusives' to the PC, I'd probably be a 360 owner right now. That's all I'm saying.

[Fallen_One]

Got my 80GB PS3 from EB today with Call Of Duty 4.
I'll try taking Motorstorm to Blockbuster in the next couple of days to see what they'll give me for it.



..was thinking of picking up this deal myself at EB, but not sure about there return policy (just in case). Any chance I could PM it for the free game at FS or BB? I get the feeling that once you buy it from EB, you've got to fight if you have to return :S

[Rx-87]

OH boy... these massive drops within the timespan of a month in addition to the crazy bundles just makes it overwhelmingly hard to decide when to buy it...

[sf.]

..was thinking of picking up this deal myself at EB, but not sure about there return policy (just in case). Any chance I could PM it for the free game at FS or BB? I get the feeling that once you buy it from EB, you've got to fight if you have to return :S

I have no idea, maybe someone in that deal's thread can help (http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5984152)
Hopefully I won't have to worry about trying to return the system to EB. I didn't want to deal with PM'ing or any Boxing Day craziness so I thought this deal seemed good enough for me.

[bumboclott]

Where's the cheapest place to get Warhawk w/headset nowadays?

[evozero]

OH boy... these massive drops within the timespan of a month in addition to the crazy bundles just makes it overwhelmingly hard to decide when to buy it...

well, if you wait, sometime early next year they'll bundle the dualshock 3 with the console. they'd be smart to do it before metal gear solid 4 drops.

[bmaz]

well, if you wait, sometime early next year they'll bundle the dualshock 3 with the console. they'd be smart to do it before metal gear solid 4 drops.
It's due out in Spring.
BTW the 5 free Blu-Ray offer ends at the end of January, so it would be best to get one before then.

[Setz]

Just beat Call of Duty 4 for PS3. Amazing game. Probably the finest shooter I'm played. Thinking of completing Uncharted now, then probably play Assassin's Creed.

[skeletor]

Albeit poorly. 360 controller for PC is only good for emulation and some games. I tried playing Counterstrike on that piece of junk and it was crap.

LOL!!! I have a logitech rumblepad which is pretty good.. but who would want to play counterstrike on a controller in the first place when you got keyboard and mouse (the way FPS games are meant to be played)..

[Andro]

Where's the cheapest place to get Warhawk w/headset nowadays?

i saw it in Blockbuster for 39.99$ brand new.....however i bought GTA:Trilogy for PS2 for 29.99$ brand new, which seemed like a really nice deal to me too.

[bumboclott]

i saw it in Blockbuster for 39.99$ brand new.....however i bought GTA:Trilogy for PS2 for 29.99$ brand new, which seemed like a really nice deal to me too.

damn, the gta trilogy sounds very tempting... do you know if that warhawk is with the headset? probably not since it's so low...

thanks by the way

[ashs]

the headsets not bad, but if u need a mic for swearing at kiddies while pwning them in COD4, u may want to look at the playstation eye. I was considering getting warhawk but chose to get eye of judgment (i wanted the game and the eye). I use the eye when i play online and i find its more natural to speak into as opposed to having a cumbersome headpiece

[maebach]

32% through uncharted, and its great so far. The best action adventure Ive played after RE4 for NGC.

[pgfreak]

Is anyone going to get the Warhawk expansion? It seems good

[Andro]

damn, the gta trilogy sounds very tempting... do you know if that warhawk is with the headset? probably not since it's so low...

thanks by the way

when i saw it i believe there was no headset, just sealed game box

[evozero]

Is anyone going to get the Warhawk expansion? It seems good

i'm getting it, from what i understand it is only $7.99 which seems fair.

[Setz]

Is there any way to transfer files from PC to PS3? I had an SD card I was using, but I lost it... :|

Male-to-male USB cables don't work, and I tried networking via router & cat5 and it didn't work for me. Could I make a data CD on PC with photos, themes, etc, and bring to PS3?

[pgfreak]

Is there any way to transfer files from PC to PS3? I had an SD card I was using, but I lost it... :|

Male-to-male USB cables don't work, and I tried networking via router & cat5 and it didn't work for me. Could I make a data CD on PC with photos, themes, etc, and bring to PS3?

do you have a psp?

USB stick?

if not, it looks like CD/DVD (data disk) might be your best choice.

[Setz]

I finally got the darn networking to work. I shared my entire C:\ drive (not sure if it's the wisest thing to do, but now I can access anything on my PC from my PS3.

[mondaybeef]

I order my PS3 from Dell yesterday for 450 and I GOT IT TODAY ALREADY!! WOW THAT WAS FAST DELL!!:razz:

[kirktondan]

I order my PS3 from Dell yesterday for 450 and I GOT IT TODAY ALREADY!! WOW THAT WAS FAST DELL!!:razz:

You are very lucky, I'm waiting, hoping I get it before Dec. 18th.

[nfnx]

Is there any way to transfer files from PC to PS3? I had an SD card I was using, but I lost it... :|

Male-to-male USB cables don't work, and I tried networking via router & cat5 and it didn't work for me. Could I make a data CD on PC with photos, themes, etc, and bring to PS3?

download media player 11 and click the option for media sharing

that allows you to access your computer wirelessly from your console. pretty pimp.

[bumboclott]

So apparently Warhawk bundled with the headset is discontinued... has anyone seen it around?

[pgfreak]

I finally got the darn networking to work. I shared my entire C:\ drive (not sure if it's the wisest thing to do, but now I can access anything on my PC from my PS3.

how did you do that?

[Setz]

how did you do that?

I downloaded Red Kawa file server (http://www.gamesey.com/page.php?t=447), and followed the instructions. Initially it did not work, because I kept getting 403 Forbidden Error, but after sharing the folders I needed to get from my PC to my PS3 (in my case, C:\), I was able to use the internet browser, and go into my PC and select whatever file I wanted.

For some people, it causes errors on their PS3 and for some it even broke it (some people say, but there's no cold hard evidence).

[zerocool24]

I think my ps3 has died, it wont turn on anymore, at first i thought maybe the plug came out a bit but after resetting it still nothing. crap. and worst of all my heavenly sword was still in the drive.

[theprodigy]

I think my ps3 has died, it wont turn on anymore, at first i thought maybe the plug came out a bit but after resetting it still nothing. crap. and worst of all my heavenly sword was still in the drive.

Do you still get power though (i.e. light indicators still show up)? If you do, I think you can hold the eject button on the console for about 10 secs. and it will do a force eject of the disk.

[zerocool24]

Do you still get power though (i.e. light indicators still show up)? If you do, I think you can hold the eject button on the console for about 10 secs. and it will do a force eject of the disk.

nope, no power, no lights, i think the psu died

[drdrma]

Has anyone seen the assassin's creed ps3 patch yet? I've experienced the lockups (various forms actually) and it's maddening!

[common sense]

anyone looking for Assassin's Creed?

i'm trying to trade it for Uncharted

[Musiq Soulchild]

Anyone know when the Divx update will be coming for the ps3?

[CFRTim]

Has anyone seen the assassin's creed ps3 patch yet? I've experienced the lockups (various forms actually) and it's maddening!

It's not looking good: Ubisoft have no idea whats wrong with Assassins Creed

There are problems with the PS3 version of Assassin's Creed. Altair freezing in mid-air, for example. Hardly helpful. PS3 owners are expecting a speedy resolution to this because, understandably, they're jack of their versions of games being all busted up. Is said help on its way? Not anytime soon. Michael Beadle, Ubisoft's senior public-relations manager says Ubisoft are looking into it but, to be frank, have no idea what's causing it. Not a clue. It's gallic shrugs all round at Ubisoft HQ

http://kotaku.com/gaming/assassin.s-creed/ubisoft-have-no-idea-whats-wrong-with-assassins-creed-330055.php

[Sohjonn]

on the brighter side, did anyone see the new PS3 ad!

It's Sick!

http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/12/06/sony-finally-gets-it-right-with-the-latest-ps3-commercial/

[Setz]

Heh, loving this PS3->PC networking! Torrenting anime, and then bringing it right to my PS3 for television viewing.

[rahzel]

i think the patch was specifically to fix the freezing and i think it has already been released (a lot of people at neogaf said they already got it but i think its region specific and updates automatically). most people at neogaf said it made the framerate more stable too. i think kotaku is talking about the bugs in their article (which are present in both versions afaik).

[marcopolo85]

Heh, loving this PS3->PC networking! Torrenting anime, and then bringing it right to my PS3 for television viewing.

thx for the link im gonna mess around with it tomorrow

[obernewtyn]

Heh, loving this PS3->PC networking! Torrenting anime, and then bringing it right to my PS3 for television viewing.

wow, you can do that with the ps3? can you tell us how? thanks

[nfnx]

download media player 11 and click the option for media sharing

that allows you to access your computer wirelessly from your console. pretty pimp.

best way to do it without extra cables or software... you can choose what to share with your ps3 too

[sfu_lifer]

This is a rumor well-founded on previous Red Octane actions of locking out 3rd parties from their game so you can bet there's a whole lot of truth in this:
http://www.destructoid.com/rumor-activision-behind-rock-band-ps3-peripheral-compatibility-patch-delay--58054.phtml

I hope Red Octane goes down in flames!

I have the PS3 version of Rock Band too and I wanna use my Les Paul on it :mad:

[Setz]

wow, you can do that with the ps3? can you tell us how? thanks

Well, as I posted before: you need to download the Red Kawa fileserver. From there, you need to share whatever folders you may want to share (again, in my case: my entire C:\ drive). You need to then allow this folder (whatever folders you allowed for sharing) on the Red Kawa File Server settings.

Since I'm using a router, I need to connect to my router via the internet (my address is 196.118.0. something or other, then I add the port number: 8192). Going into the address bar in the PS3's internet browser, I input the IP adress of my router followed by the port number, and then it connects me to the server. From there I can download whatever I have on my PC in the sharing folders, straight to my PS3.

For anime, quality is not the greatest, but it sure is watchable. I just watched Akira last night after torrenting it. I needed to convert from .avi to .mp4 using PS3 Video 9, a conversion program which can also be found on the Red Kawa website. It looks similar to how it would be viewed on a PC, however it's upscaled/downscaled to whatever your television resolution is set at (in my case: 490i or something). SDTV sucks! D:

[mark_in_2k]

Well, as I posted before: you need to download the Red Kawa fileserver. From there, you need to share whatever folders you may want to share (again, in my case: my entire C:\ drive). You need to then allow this folder (whatever folders you allowed for sharing) on the Red Kawa File Server settings.

Since I'm using a router, I need to connect to my router via the internet (my address is 196.118.0. something or other, then I add the port number: 8192). Going into the address bar in the PS3's internet browser, I input the IP adress of my router followed by the port number, and then it connects me to the server. From there I can download whatever I have on my PC in the sharing folders, straight to my PS3.

For anime, quality is not the greatest, but it sure is watchable. I just watched Akira last night after torrenting it. I needed to convert from .avi to .mp4 using PS3 Video 9, a conversion program which can also be found on the Red Kawa website. It looks similar to how it would be viewed on a PC, however it's upscaled/downscaled to whatever your television resolution is set at (in my case: 490i or something). SDTV sucks! D:Can I ask why you don't use TVersity? With TVersity, you don't need to run the PS3 browser to watch you videos, it's all done directly through the XMB interface, and the quality is top knotch.

[drdrma]

Can I ask why you don't use TVersity? With TVersity, you don't need to run the PS3 browser to watch you videos, it's all done directly through the XMB interface, and the quality is top knotch.

Actually, any UPnP compatible server will do. The PS3 will auto-discover these devices and you get an icon for the server in the video/audio menus. You can browse and stream content. I use mediatomb which uses javascript to customize the layout. I can browse by album, artist, year, title all from the xmb.
I have to give credit to sony, by supporting open standards they did this one right.

[Setz]

Can I ask why you don't use TVersity? With TVersity, you don't need to run the PS3 browser to watch you videos, it's all done directly through the XMB interface, and the quality is top knotch.

I don't view it through the browser. I only use the browser to select a file. It's like when I open the browser, it opens a list of all the subdirectories in my C:\ drive, and from there I find the file (beit .jpg, .gif .mp3 .mp4 .mpeg2 etcetc), and from there I download that file from my PC to my PS3.

I don't view the movies via the internet, I just redownload it on my PS3, then watch it through the cross media bar. Redownloading is fast, too. I know an mp3 (around 3mb) takes just under a second to download for me, and an 850mb .mp4 (like Akira) took about 20 seconds to download to my PS3.

Only thing I wish I could do was download files in groups. I can only download 1 song at a time. When I have over 20 albums, it gets tedious. I'm looking for a better solution to this, so I haven't downloaded everything yet.

[zydus]

Got high velocity bowling last night for $11.99

Its awesome! Its a great game to play when a bunch of people are over and so far I would say its the best implementation of the motion sensor in the remote ever. Its a little wierd using L2 and R2 for spin but the actual movement is perfectly captured.

[JiNuWiNe]

Anyone own one of these? PlayStation 3 FragFX Controller (http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0926INGFS10092080&catid=24378#)

Any good with FPS games? Like COD4? UT3? Does it work with Uncharted?

[Musiq Soulchild]

So with all these programs, can you fast forward or rewind? I was using TVersity but max its goes is 1.5. Right now i just use my Xbox 1 to stream as i can fast forward and rewind. If you can, this would be sweet.

[CFRTim]

i think the patch was specifically to fix the freezing and i think it has already been released (a lot of people at neogaf said they already got it but i think its region specific and updates automatically). most people at neogaf said it made the framerate more stable too. i think kotaku is talking about the bugs in their article (which are present in both versions afaik).

Just finished the game on the 360 (AC), and other than stupid AI, I never had any problems with it.

[drdrma]

...
Only thing I wish I could do was download files in groups. I can only download 1 song at a time. When I have over 20 albums, it gets tedious. I'm looking for a better solution to this, so I haven't downloaded everything yet.

Use a UPnP media server (I assume TVersity everyone talks about is one), you can copy folders.

So with all these programs, can you fast forward or rewind? I was using TVersity but max its goes is 1.5. Right now i just use my Xbox 1 to stream as i can fast forward and rewind. If you can, this would be sweet.

I have no problem ff/rw at all the available speeds, you can also seek by time code. As far as I can tell, there's no difference between having it local and streaming.

[zerocool24]

Anyone own one of these? PlayStation 3 FragFX Controller (http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0926INGFS10092080&catid=24378#)

Any good with FPS games? Like COD4? UT3? Does it work with Uncharted?

i asked earlier and no one answered, i think no one has bought it, i am tempted.

[rahzel]

Just finished the game on the 360 (AC), and other than stupid AI, I never had any problems with it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVZgkrL0CVo
theres also a video at GT where a horse has messed up legs. and another one where an enemy is stuck doing the animations for climbing ladders.

bugs usually don't appear for everyone... it usually depends on how you play the game. some people said they haven't experienced any bugs on the PS3 version either. some peoples games haven't even froze on them. but both versions seem to be quite buggy.

[sf.]

They're having a double XP weekend for COD4, starting today until Monday, if anyone is interested.

Is it difficult to come across stores with Guitar Hero 3 in stock? I only got my system last week so I haven't really been following things. I couldn't find it today so I got Uncharted instead.

[Sohjonn]

http://www.gamespot.com/video/933036/6183745/videoplayerpop?

if anyone knows what that song is let me know ciao

[sfu_lifer]

wow, you can do that with the ps3? can you tell us how? thanks
I find Nero to be better quality than Red Kawa's.

[jeffyjaixx]

I find Nero to be better quality than Red Kawa's.

I use Nero too.

[gamer4Life]

Just finished the game on the 360 (AC), and other than stupid AI, I never had any problems with it.

A friend of mine was playing AC and his RROD on him. It's too bad since he just bought it recently. As he was going to the post office to send his new 360 in for repair, the guy at the counter guessed it was a 360 inside - "We receive at least one 360 a day".

I guess Microsoft is still shipping defective units, it seems even the new 360s are defective.

[Andro]

A friend of mine was playing AC and his RROD on him. It's too bad since he just bought it recently. As he was going to the post office to send his new 360 in for repair, the guy at the counter guessed it was a 360 inside - "We receive at least one 360 a day".

I guess Microsoft is still shipping defective units, it seems even the new 360s are defective.

I wonder what does this have to do with PS3 thread?

[GateGuardian]

Does anyone know if the new 80gb models (if there are any) are backwards compatible????

[zerocool24]

Does anyone know if the new 80gb models (if there are any) are backwards compatible????

they use software emulation, so most games ( i think it was in the 80% range ) work.

[CFRTim]

So is UT3 out yet? Anyone had a chance to grab an early copy?

[Setz]

UT3 AFAIK comes out tomorrow. Same with Orange Box. I am saddened because EBGames claims it's coming out on the 14th.

[marcopolo85]

Famitsu reviewed GT5 prologue and gave it:
http://www.ripten.com/2007/12/11/famitsu-review-gran-turismo-5-prologue-3940/
Famitsu Review Gran Turismo 5 Prologue - 39/40

by Patrick Steen on December 11, 2007

Famitsu - the Japanese Magazine that eclipses the rest, the one we’re all waiting to hear from. They have now reviewed Gran Turismo 5 Prologue for the Playstation 3, and it wouldn’t be inaccurate to say that it eclipses all other racing games around it.
Famitsu scored Forza 2 36/40 and PGR4 33/40 - both extremely respectable scores. They have, however, scored GT5 Prologue 39/40 - that is 10, 10, 9 and 10.
That is some pretty glowing scores right there, for a game that is practically only a taster of the full Gran Turismo 5. I expect they’re holding back that fourth perfect score for the arrival of Polyphony Digital’s full flung beast.
An incredible looking game running at 1080p 60fps, with the best car models you have ever seen and with an updated physics model to make it the most realistic driving simulator ever. Polyphony Digital are Gods.

Oh and here’s a nice mention of damage modeling being in the game - something which has been missing from the series. Here PSU.com suggest that car damage is in the game, though we’ve yet to see it:

Many fans of the series may also be pleased to learn that damage modelling has finally been implemented with Prologue. On the whole, the damage effects are quite realistic and we can safely say that the days of the Gran Turismo series being called a ‘bumper car simulator’ are over.

The arrival of the London track is something else, which will see you passing through Trafalgar Square and Piccadilly Circus. It looks incredible and is such a good addition to the series. Really we can’t wait.

Click on the image to read more about the London track.
Happy driving.

[CFRTim]

Famitsu reviewed GT5 prologue and gave it:
http://www.ripten.com/2007/12/11/famitsu-review-gran-turismo-5-prologue-3940/

I think the game is out in Japan today or tomorrow. Did anyone order the game from Play-Asia, or is using a Jap account to download the game?

[jeffyjaixx]

GT:5P Info up - cars + course list

http://www.gran-turismo.com/en/gt5p/news/d1520.html

Car List
Acura NSX
Alfa Romeo 147 TI 2.0 TWIN SPARK
Alfa Romeo Brera Sky Window 3.2 JTS Q4
Audi R8 4.2 FSI R tronic
Audi TT Coupe 3.2 quattro
BMW BMW Z4
BMW BMW 135i Coupe
BMW BMW M3 Coupe
Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C6)
Daihatsu Copen Active Top
Daihatsu OFC-1
Dodge VIPER GTS
Ferrari 599
Ferrari F430
Ford Mustang V8 GT Coupe Premium
Honda INTEGRA TYPE R (DC5)
Lancia DELTA HF Integrale Evoluzione
Lexus IS F
Lotus Elise 111R
Lotus Elise
Mazda ATENZA Sport (2007 Tokyo Motor Show reference exhibit)
Mercedes-Benz SL 55 AMG (R230)
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX GSR
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X GSR Premium Package
Nissan SKYLINE GT-R Vspec II Nur (R34)
Nissan Fairlady Z Version S (Z33)
Nissan Skyline Sedan 350GT Type SP (V36)
Nissan Skyline Coupe Concept
Nissan Skyline Coupe 370GT Type SP (V36)
Nissan GT-R Proto
Nissan GT-R (R35)
Renault Clio Renault Sport V6 24V
Subaru IMPREZA WRX STI (18inch BBS Wheel Option)
Suzuki Cappuccino (EA21R)
Suzuki SWIFT Sport
TVR Tuscan Speed Six
Volkswagen Golf IV GTI

5 Courses 10 Layouts:
Superspeedway - Daytona International Speedway
The Road Course - Daytona International Speedway
Suzuka Circuit
Suzuka Circuit East Course
Fuji Speedway F
Fuji Speedway GT
Eiger Nordwand (Forward)
Eiger Nordwand (Reverse)
London (Forward)
London (Reverse)

M3 :D

[jeffyjaixx]

Some new screens from the London level. (I hope?)

3D crowds are back!

http://www.gran-turismo.com/jp/binary/images/1513/p02a.jpg

http://www.gran-turismo.com/jp/binary/images/1513/p03a.jpg

http://www.gran-turismo.com/jp/binary/images/1513/p06a.jpg

[joshtang10]

So is UT3 out yet? Anyone had a chance to grab an early copy?

Just grabbed mine from the EB in Mississauga's Woodbine Square. Many many copies in the display case, though they did just receive the shipment today.

Keep in mind that it's selling for $59.99 at EB, as opposed to $69.99 at both FS and BB.

Anyone else planning on picking the game up? We should try to get a RFD game going sometime!

[Sheky]

Just picked up a HDTV and have some questions about upscaling on the PS3.

What do the options mean when it comes to upscaling PS2 games and regular DVDs? Fullscreen, Normal, Double Scale? Huh?

And specifically for FFXII, should the widescreen option be selected from within the game?

[ATLien69]

Any news if GT5 Prologue JAP is shareable over 5 machines? Or is it like Warhawk, which so far is the only game that is not sharable???

[Setz]

Picked up Unreal Tournament 3 today. I'm impressed by the visuals and how smooth it is, but to be frank I'm not enjoying it as much as I did UT2k4 or the original UT. I might sell it on the BST. :(

Also bought Orange Box today. EB said they didn't get a shipment of them yet, however tomorrow they should.

[Outphase]

for those who picked up UT3; did you try it with the keyboard and mouse? IGN doesn't seem to have their review up and the reviews i've seen so far doesn't seem to mention it at all (of course, things are far more fun with the mouse and keyboard)

[sfu_lifer]

wow @GT5. I do hope it's shareable.

[thecharlie]

for those who picked up UT3; did you try it with the keyboard and mouse? IGN doesn't seem to have their review up and the reviews i've seen so far doesn't seem to mention it at all (of course, things are far more fun with the mouse and keyboard)

I was watching the 1up show, and they were saying how the game is slowed down considerably on the PS3 in order to balance the advantage of the keyboard and mouse with the controller. I doubt you'd be able to do crazy spins in the air and stuff, but it should be easier nonetheless.

[Setz]

I take it back, UT3 is amazing. I was just judging it on the singleplayer I played.

I just played some online. Was a small server. Low gravity with instagib and around 7 players. It was the most intense thing around.

[Badman]

GT5 just keeps looking better and better. Its looking more like my favorite game of all time. :D

[zerocool24]

gt5 does look good, hoping its sharable, but then doesnt it keep individual stats? i guess it'd be the same with changing profiles for the game.

One thing i dont like about the sony rma is i gotta include all the accessories ( the controller, ethernet, vid cable, power cable and usb charging cable) for the ps3, unlike microsoft which just wanted the bare console. I dont see why they need these.

[dighn]

Just picked up a 40GB PS3 over the 360. I want to play Mass Effect but overall PS3 titles future and present seem more attractive to me; besides the hardware is a lot better.

Also got Folklore and Uncharted. I'm enjoying Folklore immensely. It's a very refreshing and immersive adventure/rpg; beautiful artwork and music. Uncharted is pretty fun too.

[keross1ve]

I take it back, UT3 is amazing. I was just judging it on the singleplayer I played.

I just played some online. Was a small server. Low gravity with instagib and around 7 players. It was the most intense thing around.

If you change your mind again, I'll take it off your hands;) .

[Setz]

If you change your mind again, I'll take it off your hands;) .

We'll see. I've only played a few online games and it's been great thus far. I probably will sell it eventually, and probably soon.

[rahzel]

new GT5P videos posted at Gamersyde (http://www.gamersyde.com/news_5645_en.html). they finally added the shifting animations, and the game looks a lot cleaner than the demo. they also said they will be adding damage with an update, so GT5P and obviously GT5 definitely will have damage. game is shaping up very well!
i think GT5P is to be released today in Japan with a NA date set for February (i think).

[Setz]

Orange Box at Yorkdale EB for 59.99 today. Picked up my preorder. Loving the game. I haven't touched anything except TF2 and Half Life 2.

Anyone else looking forward to The Club (tentative title)?

[sfu_lifer]

A BIG F**K Y*U to Activision.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/playstation-3/activision-blocks-rock-band-patch-kills-ghiii-guitar-support-333236.php

That's it. I'm never going to buy another Guitar Hero again after this. Thanks for saving me hundreds in the future.

[Sheky]

Wow, what a bunch of douche bags. :/

[Menace]

I just picked up this game from Wal-Mart, $58.83. My "not so new" P4 2.4 can't handle the PC version of it. PS3 should do me fine now :cheesygri

I take it back, UT3 is amazing. I was just judging it on the singleplayer I played.

[skule123]

I'm not personally affected by the Rock Band/Activision debacle, but I'm also in the group of users who thinks that Activision is completely in the wrong.

How bad is it that a rival publisher (Activision) can dictate to an infrastructure provider (Sony) whether or not a developer (Harmonix) can update their own product?

[Canadianpsycho]

How bad is it that a rival publisher (Activision) can dictate to an infrastructure provider (Sony) whether or not a developer (Harmonix) can update their own product?

Uh, because they're adding support for the rival publisher's proprietary controller without permission?

Can't say I like Activision's decision, but is it really that surprising? Activision buys out the GH franchise, then Harmonix comes back out with essentially the same product (except with added controllers), plus undercuts them on the cost of dowloadable content (speaking from a 360 viewpoint here, can't comments on PS3 costs, sorry). I probably wouldn't be too eager to lend a helping hand.

They ARE in competition after all. What's really funny is how Activision is the devil here and EA is the lesser of two evils. ;)

[skule123]

I agree that the business case for why they'd play that card is obvious.

It just sucks for the consumers, especially the poor people who bought the standalone PS3 Rock Band hoping to use their Guitar Hero 3 controller, especially with everyone having published those handy-handy guitar compatibility charts before release.

I wonder why the 360 and PS3 situations are so different.

[sfu_lifer]

Uh, because they're adding support for the rival publisher's proprietary controller without permission?

Can't say I like Activision's decision, but is it really that surprising? Activision buys out the GH franchise, then Harmonix comes back out with essentially the same product (except with added controllers), plus undercuts them on the cost of dowloadable content (speaking from a 360 viewpoint here, can't comments on PS3 costs, sorry). I probably wouldn't be too eager to lend a helping hand.

They ARE in competition after all. What's really funny is how Activision is the devil here and EA is the lesser of two evils. ;)

Yup but that's pretty much anti-consumer and absolutely hypocritical of Red Octane (who's probably in charge of this whole thing). They made their money making knock-offs of Konami's DDR mats (which are open/standardized controllers for a reason). They wanna play hardball? Well they just lost a whole bunch of hardcores who made their game popular in the first place until the average consumer got on-board starting with GH2.
No question, Asstivision is the worst of the two. Their DLC for GH2 was insane pricing-wise. They're gonna get their ass handed to them at some point in the future because Harmonix really is the key here. From what I've read, Harmonix patented the whole scrolling notes thing that even GH3 can't get away from (thus paying licensing fees for use). They're probably bitter.
From a business point of view, Rockband users will/have bought GH3 just because it's the only way to get a bass guitar w/o splurging for the whole rock band set which is cost-prohibitive and very hard to get a hold of one.
I'm definitely rooting for Rock Band to kill off the Guitar Hero phenomenon that Harmonix helped create in the first place (at least in North America since Konami wasn't that big here in the arcades outside of DDR) esp after the Red Octane CEO said previously that they won't attempt to block the patch.

the 360 is unique in that to use Microsoft's controller ports (both wired and wireless), it must be standardized (i.e. maps to certain features of the controller easily - i.e. simple button presses) hardware wise. So Asstivision has no say in what inputs Rock Band can use in their game. However, they do have the right to restrict what controllers work with their game (i.e. no Rockband guitar will work on GH3) via a software lockout. Also, Asstivision doesn't have the same leverage that they do with Sony and the PS3 which currently needs all the help it can get software-wise. You can bet if the PS3 was killing sales-wise of both software and hardware, Sony will tell Asstivision to eFF off.

[JiNuWiNe]

hi guys,


Got some finished ps3 games that you want to get rid of? PM me!!

[rahzel]

some off-screen shots of GT5P.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8928587&postcount=1464
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8934917&postcount=1524

[CouchPotato]

New trailers for FF13.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/146558.html

And FF13 Versus

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/146554.html

[marcopolo85]

some off-screen shots of GT5P.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8928587&postcount=1464
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8934917&postcount=1524

wow these are all amazing shots. If I were shown this pic and asked if it were real life or a game I would have said real life
http://i17.tinypic.com/6y1f28h.jpg

[jeffyjaixx]

New trailers for FF13.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/146558.html

And FF13 Versus

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/146554.html

HQ DDL's.

They're both hot.

FF XIII

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QH9505AN

FF Versus XIII

http://rapidshare.com/files/76692914/ffvs13trailer2.avi.html

*Credit to PotatoHead.

[flyman]

Hi guys, I need some opinions from the ppl in the ps3 thread. I was going to get an xbox360 for Christmas, but after some discussion and convincing from friends I've decided to stay away from the xbox360 and go with a ps3 for Christmas! :cheesygri

The problem now is deciding between the 40gb or the 80gb. I know about the backwards comp. issue w/ the 40gb version and the 2 usb slots for the 40gb version. I don't think there are any other significant differences between the two. Can someone confirm this?

I don't have any ps2 games myself unless I borrow some, so the backward comp. issue isn't a big concern for me. Plus, I would want to play ps3 games anyhow. Just look at the gt5p screenshots above :O

Should I go with the 40gb version or dish out a bit more $$$ for the 80gb?

Thanks.

[jeffyjaixx]

Hi guys, I need some opinions from the ppl in the ps3 thread. I was going to get an xbox360 for Christmas, but after some discussion and convincing from friends I've decided to stay away from the xbox360 and go with a ps3 for Christmas! :cheesygri

The problem now is deciding between the 40gb or the 80gb. I know about the backwards comp. issue w/ the 40gb version and the 2 usb slots for the 40gb version. I don't think there are any other significant differences between the two. Can someone confirm this?

I don't have any ps2 games myself unless I borrow some, so the backward comp. issue isn't a big concern for me. Plus, I would want to play ps3 games anyhow. Just look at the gt5p screenshots above :O

Should I go with the 40gb version or dish out a bit more $$$ for the 80gb?

Thanks.

Reliability issues turned you off eh? :lol:

If you don't care for the BC, then I would go for the 40GB. You can always add another HDD in the future. Also, correct me if I'm wrong anyone, but I think the 80GB also has media card slots (like SD card etc.) while the 40GB doesn't.

[flyman]

Reliability issues turned you off eh? :lol:

If you don't care for the BC, then I would go for the 40GB. You can always add another HDD in the future. Also, correct me if I'm wrong anyone, but I think the 80GB also has media card slots (like SD card etc.) while the 40GB doesn't.

hahah ... no comment :P

Oh, yeah I think the 40gb one is missing a flash card reader.

[nfnx]

lol once you start playing ps3 you will not want to play ps2 games haha



i think gt5 is a mustbuy on everyones list right now

army of two got delayed til feb... freak... i wanted it to play during th break too....

[AlphaTwo]

lol once you start playing ps3 you will not want to play ps2 games hahaI beg to differ. I'm still playing tons of PS2 games.

[sfu_lifer]

Yes but I'm finding it that I'm playing them on my PS3 is a lot better experience thanks to the near-perfect BC (20GB model here).

[marcopolo85]

All snowed in here in brampton, looks like a great day for gaming :cheesygri

I think the OP should outline the differences in the 40gig, 80gig, 60gig and 20gig. Weve been getting alot of questions as of lately i guess because of the new prices.

[Badman]

some off-screen shots of GT5P.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8928587&postcount=1464
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8934917&postcount=1524

drool. I never seen a game look this good before.

[TCB069]

hahah ... no comment :P

Oh, yeah I think the 40gb one is missing a flash card reader.

the 40gb is also missing 2 usb ports. if you plan on playing rock band with 3 or more people you'll need to hook up a USB hub to the 40gb.

the benefit of the 40gb over the 80 gb though is it uses 65mm Cell processor so it runs cooler, is reportedly quieter and uses less power (135 watts compared to 200 watts)

[sfu_lifer]

You'd be hard pressed to find the 20GB nowadays (unless it's a refurb/closeout model). I've seen some 60GB still in the wild but definitely they're harder to get now. Advantage with the older units are the near perfect BC of both PS1 and PS2 games. Disadvantage is the greater power draw. I don't think the PS3 pulls 200W in anything even with the older models.
If I were to buy one now, I'd go and get the 40GB model (the recent Superstore no tax event plus $30 off coupon is a steal). I've never used the extra 2 USB ports ever and I doubt I'll ever plug a memory card in there. Ps2 gaming is good but really, you buy the PS3 for the PS3 capabilities (movie playback etc). When you need more HD space, go get a 160GB+ SATA drive for cheap. Transfer photos/music/movies over your network.

[Setz]

You'd be hard pressed to find the 20GB nowadays (unless it's a refurb/closeout model). I've seen some 60GB still in the wild but definitely they're harder to get now. Advantage with the older units are the near perfect BC of both PS1 and PS2 games. Disadvantage is the greater power draw. I don't think the PS3 pulls 200W in anything even with the older models.
If I were to buy one now, I'd go and get the 40GB model (the recent Superstore no tax event plus $30 off coupon is a steal). I've never used the extra 2 USB ports ever and I doubt I'll ever plug a memory card in there. Ps2 gaming is good but really, you buy the PS3 for the PS3 capabilities (movie playback etc). When you need more HD space, go get a 160GB+ SATA drive for cheap. Transfer photos/music/movies over your network.

See I think a lot of people bought the PS3 initially for gaming, and then turned out using it's multimedia features more than the actual games. :lol:

I know for me I bought it to play some games, and now? I only really play movies on it.

[maebach]

Anybody played UT3 on PS3 yet? Im thinking of geting it

[JiNuWiNe]

Hey guys,


I hooked up the ps3 to the sony home theater via optical. I watched a movie to test it out and the center speaker isn't working....


Anyone know what the problem is?

I followed all the steps to this. http://www.dolby.com/consumer/games/yourconsole.html

[Setz]

Anybody played UT3 on PS3 yet? Im thinking of geting it

If your PC can support it, I'd get the PC version. They are just about identical, however I am sure the PC servers are much more crowded than the PS3 version. I'd say get either, but it all comes down to prefference.

[rahzel]

Anybody played UT3 on PS3 yet? Im thinking of geting it
if you're a fan of UT games, i would definitely get it. i think the PS3 version is actually more populated than the PC version (PC version sold a dismal 34k) - i think the PS3 version will sell more despite having "limited supply" this year.

[sfu_lifer]

Played it over the weekend. IMO it's the best looking PS3 game out there currently (and yes, even better than Gears of War on 360).
Pretty fun online. I haven't had a chance to use a KB+mouse though.

[evozero]

anyone who has the ps3 version of ut3, how many people are online on average (how many populated servers) ? just curious..

[Setz]

anyone who has the ps3 version of ut3, how many people are online on average (how many populated servers) ? just curious..

For me, there's about 20-30 servers at any given time, and they are usually all full. Last I checked though was on launch day.

[CouchPotato]

New firmware 2.1 (tomorrow?) to include divx and Blu-Ray Profile 1.1

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=217980
http://fr.playstation.com/help-support/ps3/guides/detail/item89588/Fonctions-mises-%C3%A0-jour-%28ver-2-10%29/

So far, all of the links seem to indicate Europe will be getting it on Dec. 18. I'm sure NA is not far behind.

[Setz]

I heard about the DivX update, but I wasn't expecting it so soon. I just read about it on Saturday and it was thought to arrive within 2 weeks.

Finally, that 5gb folder of titles named "Unsupported Data" will magically become playable. :D

[PCDawg]

New firmware 2.1 (tomorrow?) to include divx and Blu-Ray Profile 1.1

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=217980
http://fr.playstation.com/help-support/ps3/guides/detail/item89588/Fonctions-mises-%C3%A0-jour-%28ver-2-10%29/

So far, all of the links seem to indicate Europe will be getting it on Dec. 18. I'm sure NA is not far behind.

Wow..nice...i knew upgrading the HDD to 160GB would come in handy sooner or later :)

[jeffyjaixx]

http://ps3.es.playstation.com/news/detail/item89586/
link broken- hopefully they'll bring it back, update appears to be out in Europe already

New Firmware 2.1 update brings:

-Voice Changer
http://tinyimg.us/i/cqs1197898160f.jpg

- Music settings. Bitmapping and Bitstreaming audio.

- Video:
DivX support (including for wireless media server streaming)
VC-1 (WMV) support (you have to enable wma playback in the system settings in order to be able to play wmvs)
BluRay Profile 1.1
BluRay Disc Settings Tool added - related to new Blu-ray 1.1 features

Something about DivX support, nothing too big though.

There's a smattering of other little additions, all of which we've listed after the break. There are also a couple of stipulations with regards to DivX - namely, that copyright protected files, v3.11 encoded videos and files larger than 2GB cannot be played.

[BD006]

Hey guys,


I hooked up the ps3 to the sony home theater via optical. I watched a movie to test it out and the center speaker isn't working....


Anyone know what the problem is?

I followed all the steps to this. http://www.dolby.com/consumer/games/yourconsole.html

Did you set the audio settings on the PS3 to bitstream, and not PCM?

[BD006]

Wow, if all that stuff being added is true, this is the REAL 2.0 update.

[Badman]

New firmware 2.1 (tomorrow?) to include divx and Blu-Ray Profile 1.1

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=217980
http://fr.playstation.com/help-support/ps3/guides/detail/item89588/Fonctions-mises-%C3%A0-jour-%28ver-2-10%29/

So far, all of the links seem to indicate Europe will be getting it on Dec. 18. I'm sure NA is not far behind.

Ohh happy days.I can't wait for this as now for sure im using the ps3 instead of hooking up a computer for htpc.

Time to look for a deal on a hard drive to update my 20gb :)

[mark_in_2k]

Time to look for a deal on a hard drive to update my 20gb :)Why not use network streaming so you don't have to have multiple copies of files? My 360 and PS3 work great with TVersity.

[Brownbear]

omg. i bought a ps3 yesterday and unreal 2007 today. Tell me why it (U2007) was impossible to find at walmart and BB? I had to buy it from blockbuster, where they charged an extra dollar, but i figure its better than busing to bb or wm. Does anyone want to play U2007? its sweeeet.

[Setz]

omg. i bought a ps3 yesterday and unreal 2007 today. Tell me why it (U2007) was impossible to find at walmart and BB? I had to buy it from blockbuster, where they charged an extra dollar, but i figure its better than busing to bb or wm. Does anyone want to play U2007? its sweeeet.

You mean UT3, right?

[Brownbear]

You mean UT3, right?

Blah whatever. is that your idea of a good response to my question?

[Setz]

Blah whatever. is that your idea of a good response to my question?

Not really. I just want to clarify. :razz:

[play_b3yond]

i'm going to buy ps3 on boxing day.

but anyway, how do I hook up ps3 to the internet? I got bell sympatico. would any wireless router do the trick?

[Deals Deals Deals]

i'm going to buy ps3 on boxing day.

but anyway, how do I hook up ps3 to the internet? I got bell sympatico. would any wireless router do the trick?

A wireless router is all you need.

[sfu_lifer]

Sweet. Can't wait for the update. The 360 is too darned loud to serve as my media player.

[Musiq Soulchild]

Update is out! :)

[Setz]

Update is out! :)

Yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssss! Updating now!

[Sohjonn]

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=762

profile 1.1 and divx are now confirmed!

[evozero]

it plays all of the xvid files i've tried. nice quality too.

i'm about to try some wmv files.

[Setz]

Some .avi files I put on my PS3 don't have audio when previously they did. Maybe it's just a bad file, but this is for 10+ files.

[Canucks07]

Hey guys, got a quick question...

I'm finally sending in my PS3 info to get the 5 free Blu Ray Movies...but, I have a little trouble understanding what I need to send exactly...on the printout, it says "The original UPC code located on the outside of the player package". The problem is the PS3 has a Serial # & a POS BAR CODE. I'm ASSUMING the UPC code means the POS BAR CODE. But, it's the Serial # that is also printed on the receipt, not the POS BAR CODE. What do you guys think?

Please let me know if you're also assuming or if you know for a fact.

P.S. Do you think it's a good idea to cut the PS3's original code & send it (because I won't get it back). What happens with warranty? If I want to sell it? Is it going to be a prob?

Any help is highly appreciated.

[jling6]

Hey guys, got a quick question...

I'm finally sending in my PS3 info to get the 5 free Blu Ray Movies...but, I have a little trouble understanding what I need to send exactly...on the printout, it says "The original UPC code located on the outside of the player package". The problem is the PS3 has a Serial # & a POS BAR CODE. I'm ASSUMING the UPC code means the POS BAR CODE. But, it's the Serial # that is also printed on the receipt, not the POS BAR CODE. What do you guys think?

Please let me know if you're also assuming or if you know for a fact.

P.S. Do you think it's a good idea to cut the PS3's original code & send it (because I won't get it back). What happens with warranty? If I want to sell it? Is it going to be a prob?

Any help is highly appreciated.

You need to send the POS BAR CODE.

[evozero]

the new firmware update seems to have added a new music visualizer as well.

play any music file > press square until you cycle to the planet visualizer

pretty cool

[Canucks07]

You need to send the POS BAR CODE.

Ok awesome!

Do you know that for a fact by the way? I just want to be sure before I send it away & then I get a mail weeks later saying I sent the wrong thing!:)

Thanks for the help!

[PCDawg]

The only thing im worried about now that the PS3 is practically a full media player, is that the laser will be worn out alot faster. Wonder if its cheap to replace?

Tossed a few xvid/divx files to try. About 8/10 discs of mine worked.

[bmaz]

The only thing im worried about now that the PS3 is practically a full media player, is that the laser will be worn out alot faster. Wonder if its cheap to replace?..
Hard drives are cheap, build a server and stream.

[sfu_lifer]

The only thing im worried about now that the PS3 is practically a full media player, is that the laser will be worn out alot faster. Wonder if its cheap to replace?

Tossed a few xvid/divx files to try. About 8/10 discs of mine worked.

HD usb caddy. That's what I do.

[PCDawg]

HD usb caddy. That's what I do.

IS there any specific caddies and hdd you ahve to use? I tried to use my Seagate Freeagent 500gb ext HDD and it wont detect it at all.

Tried a nexstar 3 IDE USB caddy and it worked but will a IDE HDD be sufficient in reading the files and playing on the PS3 with no problems?

[mark_in_2k]

Now lets wait for movies coming out that have the profile 1.1 features to test out.I can't believe that it's taken this long for Blu ray to have a PIP mode with the Profile 1.1. HDDVD has had this for a long time now (not that I'm HDDVD fanboy, I own both).

[Canadianpsycho]

Too lazy to research:

Does the update add support for any .mkv files? Anyone try any HD material?

[jsquared29]

Has anyone figured out how to play divx videos off of a SD card? My ps3 says there is no data on the card when I try.

[theprodigy]

Has anyone figured out how to play divx videos off of a SD card? My ps3 says there is no data on the card when I try.

Go to the SD card under the Video menu and hit the triangle button. A menu comes up in which you have to select View All files to see the video files.


On another note, I've played some videos on it in 1280 x 720 format and noticed a bit of the video gets cut off at the bottom...

[CFRTim]

This is still a rumour at this point, but who knows. BTW, isn't M$ the game publisher for this game? I know EA bought Bioware

http://kotaku.com/gaming/calling-it/pachter-mass-effect-will-come-to-ps3-335233.php

[Sheky]

Too lazy to research:

Does the update add support for any .mkv files? Anyone try any HD material?

I don't think it's supported. I put in some MKV files and it doesn't recognize it.

[Hybrid88]

Can anyone here explain the requirements for an external drive to be hooked up to the PS3 via USB?

All I essentially want to do is get a massive external drive so I can put my media files on it and have the PS3 access it.

IS there any specific caddies and hdd you ahve to use? I tried to use my Seagate Freeagent 500gb ext HDD and it wont detect it at all.

Tried a nexstar 3 IDE USB caddy and it worked but will a IDE HDD be sufficient in reading the files and playing on the PS3 with no problems?

[aturk99]

Is Uncharted worth getting my birthday on Thursday, And I know my parents picked up Uncharted because Ncaa 2k8 was not at Best Buy. Wondering if it has a good replay value or long game play I dont play my ps3 online, and dont usually beat games. Either I keep it or go for orange box on 360 just wondering if anyone has played it.

[Canadianpsycho]

I don't think it's supported. I put in some MKV files and it doesn't recognize it.

Thanks for that. Looks like neither systems supprt it natively yet.

[JiNuWiNe]

I tried goin on www.stage6.com to watch some clips but it doesn't work. Anyone have any idea how that works??

[ashs]

uncharted is one of if not the best game I've played all year. the achievements in it will keep the replay value good and its length is good too. .

Is Uncharted worth getting my birthday on Thursday, And I know my parents picked up Uncharted because Ncaa 2k8 was not at Best Buy. Wondering if it has a good replay value or long game play I dont play my ps3 online, and dont usually beat games. Either I keep it or go for orange box on 360 just wondering if anyone has played it.

[rollen]

uncharted is one of if not the best game I've played all year. the achievements in it will keep the replay value good and its length is good too. .

+1

already on my second run and im letting my gf find the treasures for me :lol:

[gambit_360]

For the PS3 to detect any external drives, you have to format it in FAT32. It won't read NTFS.

Can anyone here explain the requirements for an external drive to be hooked up to the PS3 via USB?

All I essentially want to do is get a massive external drive so I can put my media files on it and have the PS3 access it.

[sf.]

Uncharted is great but now that I've beat it I think I'll trade it in. I don't care much about finding all the treasures or killing 10 enemies in a row with headshots while hanging (which probably isn't really one of the achievements listed in the game).

[Setz]

They need to add .ogg support and .mkv. :(

It takes way too long to demux a .ogg and then splice subtitles, then convert to .mp4 or another watchable format.

Also, anyone else notice that now icons are animated in groups? Previously, you could change the icon of a movie file to 15 seconds of looping video from the iconned video, and it'd play when you're looking for movies; but this was only if you had the View All option on, but now you can have in groups and see it as well.

[Scribblez]

Is Uncharted worth getting my birthday on Thursday, And I know my parents picked up Uncharted because Ncaa 2k8 was not at Best Buy. Wondering if it has a good replay value or long game play I dont play my ps3 online, and dont usually beat games. Either I keep it or go for orange box on 360 just wondering if anyone has played it.

uncharted is one of if not the best game I've played all year. the achievements in it will keep the replay value good and its length is good too. .

I'll have to agree. I just got it the other day though and only played for a bit, but the game is a lot of fun. The graphics are stunning, great game play, and I like the controls for a third person game.

[sfu_lifer]

They need to add .ogg support and .mkv. :(

It takes way too long to demux a .ogg and then splice subtitles, then convert to .mp4 or another watchable format.

Also, anyone else notice that now icons are animated in groups? Previously, you could change the icon of a movie file to 15 seconds of looping video from the iconned video, and it'd play when you're looking for movies; but this was only if you had the View All option on, but now you can have in groups and see it as well.

hi-res MKV -> Mp4, I've been using GotSent. So fast since it doesn't touch the video portion.

[blahs]

anyone here pick up Rockband from the states for PS3? or plan on getting it when it releases here? Looking for some people to play against, Expert-guitar, medium-drums so far. PSN username is: Simplyno

[sfu_lifer]

anyone here pick up Rockband from the states for PS3? or plan on getting it when it releases here? Looking for some people to play against, Expert-guitar, medium-drums so far. PSN username is: Simplyno

I have it at my folks place. Will play on PS2 while I'm there but I'll eventually be playing online in the New Year. PSN: sfulifer

Hey if you want to gameshare the downloadable songs, lemme know. Anyone else interested we can make a share account just for Rock Band.

[rowong]

Hey guys, I want to hook up my ps3 to the home theater, where did you guys get your optical cable ?? thanks!

[zerocool24]

Hey guys, I want to hook up my ps3 to the home theater, where did you guys get your optical cable ?? thanks!

monoprice.com is a good site, very cheap even with shipping, they are in california i believe, i have only heard of people getting charged duties/taxes when they order more than $20-$30 of stuff.

[Yesdear]

monoprice.com is a good site, very cheap even with shipping, they are in california i believe, i have only heard of people getting charged duties/taxes when they order more than $20-$30 of stuff.


I have bought cheap optical cables from blockbuster (under $20) and I have purchased expensive ones from Future Shop. I have never been able o tell the difference. Monoprice is great but for a single item it may be cheaper to buy from a local store. Check out tiger direct. Also, if you are not in a hurry you can buy them cheap from eBay.

[zerocool24]

I have bought cheap optical cables from blockbuster (under $20) and I have purchased expensive ones from Future Shop. I have never been able o tell the difference. Monoprice is great but for a single item it may be cheaper to buy from a local store. Check out tiger direct. Also, if you are not in a hurry you can buy them cheap from eBay.

well i just checked out a 6 foot cable and even with shipping it was only 10.44 shipping is only 3.95 to me in toronto.

[Setz]

hi-res MKV -> Mp4, I've been using GotSent. So fast since it doesn't touch the video portion.

But any unspliced subtitle tracks are lost in the conversion. :(

[sfu_lifer]

But any unspliced subtitle tracks are lost in the conversion. :(

According to the changelogs, it'll be there BUT the ps3 and 360 won't play them. Do either actually support that anyways based on the codec support?

[Setz]

According to the changelogs, it'll be there BUT the ps3 and 360 won't play them. Do either actually support that anyways based on the codec support?

I hope sometime in the future they add subtitle support. As far as I've seen, when you open up the playback menu while playing any media file except for DVD's and BR-discs, there is no subtitle option.

[blahs]

not sure if it deserved its own thread, but the Omega Dawn Booster pack for Warhawk is out now for $8.99CDN.
Also, you have to download it from the store within warhawk itself and not the PSN store.




The Operation: Omega Dawn pack for Warhawk features an enhanced level of teamwork, tactics and coordinated aerial assaults with the new KT-424 Combat Dropship.

* Omega Factory battlefield includes 5 new map layouts featuring advanced building complexes and huge
industrial towers.

* KT-424 Combat Dropship transports 1 pilot, 6 soldiers and 1 ground vehicle; and features a deadly new
weapon – the MBEC-3 Heavy Support Cannon.

* The 5 large layouts from the original battlefields have been modified to include the KT-424 Combat Dropship

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8757338&postcount=1

[Musiq Soulchild]

Hey, maybe you guys can help me out. For some reason i see tons of random media servers (a mixture of WMP11 and Azureus ones etc). Its like I'm connected to other computers. I can look through their videos/pictures/music and play them. I can even check their IP Addresses. I checked them and they all are in my city using the same service provider. Anyone know how to get rid of these? Theres soooo many of them that it says "too many media servers to display" something along those lines. Anyone ever have this? Is it something to do with internet service provider? I know no one is in my network as I checked. Hopefully you guys can help me out.

Thanks

[bmaz]

Hey, maybe you guys can help me out. For some reason i see tons of random media servers (a mixture of WMP11 and Azureus ones etc). Its like I'm connected to other computers. I can look through their videos/pictures/music and play them. I can even check their IP Addresses. I checked them and they all are in my city using the same service provider. Anyone know how to get rid of these? Theres soooo many of them that it says "too many media servers to display" something along those lines. Anyone ever have this? Is it something to do with internet service provider? I know no one is in my network as I checked. Hopefully you guys can help me out.

Thanks
It's most likely connecting to some of your neighbours unsecured wireless network.

[zerocool24]

got my ps3 back today, less than 2 weeks after i called them, not a bad turnaround, its a brand new unit. only thing is they kept the hard drive i was told to send everything back in, if id have known i wasnt getting the hd back i would have taken it out, but i was worried it would somehow invalidate the warranty. Think im gonna get a bigger drive now, and just keep the 60 gig on around in case i need to do any warranty repairs again.

[Setz]

got my ps3 back today, less than 2 weeks after i called them, not a bad turnaround, its a brand new unit. only thing is they kept the hard drive i was told to send everything back in, if id have known i wasnt getting the hd back i would have taken it out, but i was worried it would somehow invalidate the warranty. Think im gonna get a bigger drive now, and just keep the 60 gig on around in case i need to do any warranty repairs again.

Removing the hard-drive does not void warranty.

[sfu_lifer]

Removing the hard-drive does not void warranty.
For sure. THey have a page of instructions on how to do this swap in both Playstation online and the ps3 paper manual.
I've rejigged mine to have a 120GB HD.

[Menace]

My co-worker's 60G died a week ago. I will pass your info (on turnaround) to him. He said his son played 3 to 4 hours a day before its powersupply went.

got my ps3 back today, less than 2 weeks after i called them, not a bad turnaround, its a brand new unit.

[theprodigy]

I have some .avi files that can't be played on the system. Does anyone have a recommended solution to changing the file so that it can be played? If possible, I don't want to spend like an hour having to reencode the file.

[sfu_lifer]

I have some .avi files that can't be played on the system. Does anyone have a recommended solution to changing the file so that it can be played? If possible, I don't want to spend like an hour having to reencode the file.

Are you streaming? If streaming, just download and install tversity (plus the CCCP codec pack). It shouldn't matter at that point if your ps3 can play it natively or not :)

[CFRTim]

I have some .avi files that can't be played on the system. Does anyone have a recommended solution to changing the file so that it can be played? If possible, I don't want to spend like an hour having to reencode the file.

TVersity will do it
edit: damn it, sfu_lifer beat me to it

[maebach]

Yep, TVersity will do it.

Im having a hard time updating my PS3 using a mem stick. The flsah drive gets read, and I see the songs and pics on it, but when I go to update it says no update data found.

I have it as
I:>Update
and
I:>PS3>UPdate

both dont work.

[Musiq Soulchild]

It's most likely connecting to some of your neighbours unsecured wireless network.

Its connected to my network and only mine lol. I think it has to do with my service provider or something. I hate see a list of like 10 show up.

[theprodigy]

Are you streaming? If streaming, just download and install tversity (plus the CCCP codec pack). It shouldn't matter at that point if your ps3 can play it natively or not :)

Nope, I'm just putting them on a flash drive. I have TVersity, but it doesn't stream videos in its original quality fast enough over my Wireless connection. If there is a quick way to convert the .avi videos to one that can be played on the ps3, I'll be picking up a new external drive.

[Deals Deals Deals]

What's the update today?

[Setz]

Nope, I'm just putting them on a flash drive. I have TVersity, but it doesn't stream videos in its original quality fast enough over my Wireless connection. If there is a quick way to convert the .avi videos to one that can be played on the ps3, I'll be picking up a new external drive.

You could try PS3 Video 9, it converts .avi to .mp4. The problem is, though, is it takes as long as the .avi is to convert. So for example if you convert a 40 minute .avi, it'll take 40 minutes. At least in every time I've done it anyways.

[zerocool24]

Removing the hard-drive does not void warranty.

i understand removing it doesnt void the warranty, but the girl on the phone told me to send back everything, including all cables and accessories (controller, ethernet, video, etc) since they want the controller i assumed theyd want the hard drive, dunno why though, oh well, only saves i really lost were motorstorm, mlb 07, heavenly sword and resistance.

[sfu_lifer]

You could try PS3 Video 9, it converts .avi to .mp4. The problem is, though, is it takes as long as the .avi is to convert. So for example if you convert a 40 minute .avi, it'll take 40 minutes. At least in every time I've done it anyways.

And that program is buggy as hell. Good thing they don't charge for it.
SUPER is a way better product.

[Setz]

And that program is buggy as hell. Good thing they don't charge for it.
SUPER is a way better product.

I kind of regret using PS3 Video 9 now. If I had known this DivX update was coming so soon, I wouldn't have spent almost an entire day converting a few anime series.

[theprodigy]

I've had SUPER, good tool, but has quite a few viruses/trojans that's bundled with it. Been avoiding it because of that.

[rahzel]

ripbot264 is better than SUPER imo and much easier to use. it uses the x264 encoder (similar to megui) so it encodes with excellent quality. i think i've tried all of the PS3 encoders out there (PS3 video 9, PS3 video converter, SUPER, meGUI w/PS3 profile) and ripbot264/megui produced the best quality videos.

[jeffyjaixx]

ripbot264 is better than SUPER imo and much easier to use. it uses the x264 encoder (similar to megui) so it encodes with excellent quality. i think i've tried all of the PS3 encoders out there (PS3 video 9, PS3 video converter, SUPER, meGUI w/PS3 profile) and ripbot264/megui produced the best quality videos.

Really? Thanks for the pointer... I've always used PS3 Video 9, never had a problem.

[PCDawg]

tried TVersity for the first time tonight.

WOW...didnt know I was missing so much with streaming video to my PS3.

The video studders slightly at the beginning for about 5 seconds of the video but plays fine all the way to the end.

ONe question, is it common if the video is paused that it wont resume? I tried to resume but it seems to freeze and I had to exit out and restart the video. I cant seem to fast-forward to anywhere in the video as it'll freeze up when i try to play it on normal speed.

Maybe its becuase my computer is up to par and cant keep up?

[Hybrid88]

+1 !!! Tried it after reading your post. No need for external drives or a HD update with TVersity. Got it working and now accesses the network for all my multimedia.

Must try for PS3 owners.


tried TVersity for the first time tonight.

WOW...didnt know I was missing so much with streaming video to my PS3.

The video studders slightly at the beginning for about 5 seconds of the video but plays fine all the way to the end.

ONe question, is it common if the video is paused that it wont resume? I tried to resume but it seems to freeze and I had to exit out and restart the video. I cant seem to fast-forward to anywhere in the video as it'll freeze up when i try to play it on normal speed.

Maybe its becuase my computer is up to par and cant keep up?

[Menace]

Tested out the new firmware on DivX files, WoW!!!

I have the HP MediaVault (firmware V.1.3.5.9) streaming to my PS3, most of my avi files worked beautifully. Now I can watch my fave dl tv shows on my big screen . What I would like to see in the next firmware update? RM/RMVB support :D :cheesygri

[Menace]

Are you on wired or wireless? If it is latter, there may be the cause. I bought the Blu-ray Disc Remote Control, it works better.

ONe question, is it common if the video is paused that it wont resume? I tried to resume but it seems to freeze and I had to exit out and restart the video. I cant seem to fast-forward to anywhere in the video as it'll freeze up when i try to play it on normal speed.

Maybe its becuase my computer is up to par and cant keep up?

[PCDawg]

Are you on wired or wireless? If it is latter, there may be the cause. I bought the Blu-ray Disc Remote Control, it works better.

I am on wireless and do have the BD remote.

[Setz]

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/6193/picture002gh6.jpg

Is this place too closed off to keep my PS3?

[Yesdear]

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/6193/picture002gh6.jpg

Is this place too closed off to keep my PS3?

It looks like it could vent out the back and sides so I would say it's ok. I have mine in the same sort of location.

[maebach]

I cant update my PS3 for some reason. When I update online, it fails after 5%. When I use a mem stick or Usb key it cant find the file. This is ridiculuos. Ive never had this before.

[Deals Deals Deals]

Next update Sony, please add lossless music, I want the quality.

[sfu_lifer]

Wireless B/G is absolute garbage when it comes to streaming video.
With a wired connection, you can easily stream 720p videos via Tversity (with some tweaking of course).

[marcopolo85]

I cant update my PS3 for some reason. When I update online, it fails after 5%. When I use a mem stick or Usb key it cant find the file. This is ridiculuos. Ive never had this before.

Call sony.

[sf.]

I can't get my PS3 and Mac to see each other so that I can try streaming anything. It's frustrating. I'm probably better off just using XBMC for that kind of stuff anyway.

[maebach]

Call sony.

Updated yesterday night wirelessly. took like 10 mins. that was awkward :\

[Setz]

Updated yesterday night wirelessly. took like 10 mins. that was awkward :\

Yeah, the DivX update didn't go as quickly as the other updates did. It took around 20-30 minutes for me.

[mark_in_2k]

Updated yesterday night wirelessly. took like 10 mins. that was awkward :\

Yeah, the DivX update didn't go as quickly as the other updates did. It took around 20-30 minutes for me.I've always wondered why the PS3 takes so long to download and apply updates. The 360 downloads the update, installs, and reboots within 30 seconds.

[zerocool24]

mine has always taken at least 3-5 mins.

[Yann00]

do you guys think its worth getting a PlayStation 3 Accessory to cool the playstation 3? will it extend the ps3 life by much?

[Waiwai]

do you guys think its worth getting a PlayStation 3 Accessory to cool the playstation 3? will it extend the ps3 life by much?

It's not worth it. While it does run hot, it doesn't overheat and kill the system. I've had it for a year and no problems.

[jeffyjaixx]

I've just started Heavenly Sword and guys, this is at least worth a rental to see if you like the gameplay or not. I know it's not for everybody but I like the gameplay, also the facial animations are just sooo good! Plus, it has some amusing characters.

Kai:

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/8971/dscf4275yr6.jpg

Nariko:

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/6366/dscf4257dz8.jpg

King Bohan:

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/5958/dscf4281jf5.jpg

[maebach]

King Bohon pic looks crazy

[zerocool24]

i like heavenly sword, unfortunately i sent my hard drive in with my ps3 when i got it replaced, so now i have to start it over, i was maybe 1/3rd done.

[xjohnx]

damn all I can say is Resistance: Fall of Man is awesome, I had to admit I didn't use my PS3 much until I found a great deal on CoD4 but now I've picked up Resistance and Unreal Tourney... great games.

any other games I should get if I really like these?

[rahzel]

you have to get Uncharted. R&C is one of those love it or "not my kind of game", games, so i would at least rent it. personally, its in my top 5 as far as PS3 games. heavenly sword was an awesome game, but it was short and offers little replay value; so i would rent it or buy, finish, then sell it if you no longer want it. also get motorstorm if you're into rally racers, or warhawk if you're into online shooters.

[Vertigo]

Just picked up Rainbow Six: Vegas and GRAW2 at Bestbuy's boxing day sale (online) for $20 each. I fully expect the number of people playing either game online to be quite limited, but whatever. I'm actually pretty interested in the single player campaigns. I've got COD4 (PC) for my multiplayer needs... ^^

[Setz]

you have to get Uncharted. R&C is one of those love it or "not my kind of game", games, so i would at least rent it. personally, its in my top 5 as far as PS3 games. heavenly sword was an awesome game, but it was short and offers little replay value; so i would rent it or buy, finish, then sell it if you no longer want it. also get motorstorm if you're into rally racers, or warhawk if you're into online shooters.

I think Warhawk is a terrible example of a shooter someone should play. It's a good game, just I feel that it's kind of weak compared to games like CoD4 or TF2. People who are used to FPS games like the ones I mentioned would find it very difficult to get used to Warhawk's controls and style.

[Setz]

Just picked up Rainbow Six: Vegas and GRAW2 at Bestbuy's boxing day sale (online) for $20 each. I fully expect the number of people playing either game online to be quite limited, but whatever. I'm actually pretty interested in the single player campaigns. I've got COD4 (PC) for my multiplayer needs... ^^

What others are for 20$? Is it just R6Vegas, GRAW2, The Darkness, and the ones in the flyer? Or is that just some titles?

[Vertigo]

What others are for 20$? Is it just R6Vegas, GRAW2, The Darkness, and the ones in the flyer? Or is that just some titles?

There are a few more titles @ $20 that are listed in their PS3 games area (http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/dept.asp?logon=&langid=EN&catid=24334) - Splinter Cell: Double Agent and Fight Night are $20 but weren't on the flyer. Not sure if there's anything else, as I wasn't actively looking...

[rahzel]

I think Warhawk is a terrible example of a shooter someone should play. It's a good game, just I feel that it's kind of weak compared to games like CoD4 or TF2. People who are used to FPS games like the ones I mentioned would find it very difficult to get used to Warhawk's controls and style.
i disagree. what makes warhawk's controls difficult, and what makes it weak compared to TF2? the controls are fully customizable, and its not like you have to use warhawks all the time. if you prefer to battle it out on ground, then stay on the ground. its just like the BF games, but easier. its also still one of the most popular online PS3 games (probably second to only RFoM and CoD4). i think most fans of online shooters would love Warhawk. more people will be playing Warhawk than TF2 on PS3, thats for sure.

[Setz]

i disagree. what makes warhawk's controls difficult, and what makes it weak compared to TF2? the controls are fully customizable, and its not like you have to use warhawks all the time. if you prefer to battle it out on ground, then stay on the ground. its just like the BF games, but easier. its also still one of the most popular online PS3 games (probably second to only RFoM and CoD4). i think most fans of online shooters would love Warhawk. more people will be playing Warhawk than TF2 on PS3, thats for sure.

That's the thing. In all my games of Warhawk I've played, 2/3 of all players at any given time are in the air. Compare to CoD4 where it's ground based. People in the air have an advantage over the people on the ground because of superior firepower and maneuverability, so it's not exactly balanced. I like to have a level playing ground for everyone, so there's only skill and reflexes to determine a match, rather than the luck of getting a Warhawk and keeping one.

Battlefield 2 is different. Players in Warhawk use vehicles to do battle with others, while in BF2 I've found that more times than not people use vehicles to get from Point A to Point B. Nobody stays in a jeep the entire match, right? But you can see pilots in Warhawks staying airborne for the match's entirety.

Warhawk's dogfight mode I do enjoy, however. In this mode everyone is equal and it's as I said before, a match of skill and reflexes. You can't dodge a Warhawk forever on foot upclose, right? This mode eliminates this. One could turn my argument against me by saying "well, Warhawk gives you the option to go either way", but that's irrelevant. Most online matches have neither only air or only ground battles.

[rahzel]

2/3? when i played, most games were either Zones or CTF. i'd say only 1/3 of the games were warhawk only servers, and its easy to pick and choose the type of game you want to play. there are many servers and a lot of them are populated. it shouldn't be a problem to find a CTF or Zones server.

i dunno, maybe we just played the games differently, but i think BF2 and Warhawk were quite similar. there are tanks in BF2 too you know? when i played BF2, i used tanks quite a lot. in fact, thats where i got a lot of my kills and how i got a lot of my points. and jeeps in warhawk are pretty much there to get you from point a to point b as well. the tanks and warhawks are what get you a lot of kills (depending whether you want to battle in the air or on the ground). and zone matches are pretty much the same as BF.

i actually hated dogfight matches because people are so good. thats why i usually played Zone matches and stayed on foot 80% of the time.

btw, in case you were wondering, i bought and sold Warhawk - not because i got bored with it, but because i don't really have time to play online games that much, which is why single player campaign is very important to me. the only reason i bought it was because it came with a headset and it was at bestbuy for 40 bucks. i did enjoy it though (a lot more than i thought).

[xjohnx]

thanks for the advice, I'll get Drake's when I see it cheap

question, I'm quite a noob when it comes to playing online. I usually get a game and just do the single campaign. how is online if you are pretty fresh doing it? do you really require a headset or is it fine not using one?

[rahzel]

maybe warhawk isn't for you then. it does have a pretty steep learning curve if you don't play many online shooters. judging by the games you bought, i just assumed you played a lot of online shooters.

[marcopolo85]

Maybe one of you can answer this question, my g/f wants to buy rockband for PC and she wants to know if you can use that guitar on ps3 or not?

[blahs]

Maybe one of you can answer this question, my g/f wants to buy rockband for PC and she wants to know if you can use that guitar on ps3 or not?

Rockband is not out for pc, I assume you meant guitar hero?

[marcopolo85]

Rockband is not out for pc, I assume you meant guitar hero?

oops yeah i meant guitar hero 3. Bare with me im living on 3 hrs sleep the past 50 or so hours.

[Talamasca]

I got a 40GB PS3 this morning. Very nice machine! Blu-Ray looks fantastic and the PS3's interface is sleek and user-friendly.

My absolute favourite thing about it has nothing to do with gaming or movies though. Folding@Home is an incredible thing they've added to the PS3. I love the map that shows active PS3s "folding" all over the world, helping to cure diseases. I see a single dot in Morocco or in the far western deserts of China and I can't really describe how awesome and humbling it feels that people all over the world are doing their small share to help out. And we're all going to be in the Guiness Book of World Records for doing it too! :D

[zerocool24]

I got a 40GB PS3 this morning. Very nice machine! Blu-Ray looks fantastic and the PS3's interface is sleek and user-friendly.

My absolute favourite thing about it has nothing to do with gaming or movies though. Folding@Home is an incredible thing they've added to the PS3. I love the map that shows active PS3s "folding" all over the world, helping to cure diseases. I see a single dot in Morocco or in the far western deserts of China and I can't really describe how awesome and humbling it feels that people all over the world are doing their small share to help out. And we're all going to be in the Guiness Book of World Records for doing it too! :D

i dont know if you know but you can also use your pc for folding.
http://folding.stanford.edu/

[skanji]

guys - just got my ps3 yesterday. got the update, and working on wmp 11.

the gaming aspect for me isn't as zexy as the media player. will probably like the demos more than anything.

is there any forum or guide for what a ps3 can do? been searching around, but haven't beena able to find anything...

[boxingday]

guys - just got my ps3 yesterday. got the update, and working on wmp 11.

the gaming aspect for me isn't as zexy as the media player. will probably like the demos more than anything.

is there any forum or guide for what a ps3 can do? been searching around, but haven't beena able to find anything...

www.playstation.com

[skanji]

After going through the past 50 pages of this post, here's what i found for all you newbie ps3 owners (like me!)
http://www.us.playstation.com/ - become gap member (possible free stuff)

http://www.psu.com/Creating-your-own-PS3-themes-News--a0001809-p0.php
create own theme

http://faq.eu.playstation.com/bc/bcGames.htm
backwards compatibility list

http://bluraysavings.com/bluraysavings_canada.pdf
5 free blueray discs
takes 6-8 weeks to send and also requires you to send in POC bar code(not sure what POC is though)

Good games
uncharted
Nhl08
High velocity bowling ($11.99 - not sure from where)
Call of duty 4
Rock band

[marcopolo85]

Maybe one of you can answer this question, my g/f wants to buy Guitar Hero 3 for PC and she wants to know if you can use that guitar on ps3 or not?

Anyone know the answer to this? I dont wanna have to buy it try it and if it doesnt work return it.


I got a 40GB PS3 this morning. Very nice machine! Blu-Ray looks fantastic and the PS3's interface is sleek and user-friendly.

My absolute favourite thing about it has nothing to do with gaming or movies though. Folding@Home is an incredible thing they've added to the PS3. I love the map that shows active PS3s "folding" all over the world, helping to cure diseases. I see a single dot in Morocco or in the far western deserts of China and I can't really describe how awesome and humbling it feels that people all over the world are doing their small share to help out. And we're all going to be in the Guiness Book of World Records for doing it too! :D

Grats hope you enjoy it!

guys - just got my ps3 yesterday. got the update, and working on wmp 11.

the gaming aspect for me isn't as zexy as the media player. will probably like the demos more than anything.

is there any forum or guide for what a ps3 can do? been searching around, but haven't beena able to find anything...

Grats on your new ps3, I use mine on a daily basis since I got it at launch and have enjoyed every minute of it. Make sure you pick up Uncharated and COD4!

[skanji]

Grats on your new ps3, I use mine on a daily basis since I got it at launch and have enjoyed every minute of it. Make sure you pick up Uncharated and COD4!

thanks! what really sold me on the ps3 was how much of a multimedia center it was. I have about 20 gigs of photos on my computer with another 50 gigs of music. I am blown away at the slideshow capabilities on it and really can't wait to play with it!

any deals on uncharted and cod4? i am more of a sports fan myself and we downloaded the demo of fifa and basketball and were blown away!! is ebay the best bet?

gonna try the rental instead over the holidays (7 day) from rogers...

[maebach]

After going through the past 50 pages of this post, here's what i found for all you newbie ps3 owners (like me!)
http://www.us.playstation.com/ - become gap member (possible free stuff)

http://www.psu.com/Creating-your-own-PS3-themes-News--a0001809-p0.php
create own theme

http://faq.eu.playstation.com/bc/bcGames.htm
backwards compatibility list




thanks. I didt know we could make our own themes.

[skanji]

thanks. I didt know we could make our own themes.

np - any other links? for all us newbies, i'm surprised there isn't more on rfd. i'm thinking of creating a thread on this topic. the number of ps3 users are only going to increase, and i suspect it won't be strictly for gaming as we move forward....

[CFRTim]

np - any other links? for all us newbies, i'm surprised there isn't more on rfd. i'm thinking of creating a thread on this topic. the number of ps3 users are only going to increase, and i suspect it won't be strictly for gaming as we move forward....

Why make a new thread? This is the PS3 thread for ALL PS3 related stuff

[skanji]

Why make a new thread? This is the PS3 thread for ALL PS3 related stuff

yeah, but going through the last 50 pages of posts hasn't yielded much info of value...

does anyone know why video would be showing on my ps3, but not music or photos?

also, i am now getting an error (media server error: a network error has occurred. (8001000B)

[bmaz]

np - any other links? for all us newbies, i'm surprised there isn't more on rfd. i'm thinking of creating a thread on this topic. the number of ps3 users are only going to increase, and i suspect it won't be strictly for gaming as we move forward....
Yeah why create a new thread? All the information is in this thread they are just all over the place.
If you want to consolidate the info. then PM the OP he can have an FAQ link in his OP that points to your consolidated post within this thread.

[jeeva86]

www.ps3-hacks.com

Check out the forums page. Main page shows latest informative updates.

[reptar]

ps3 40gb:

how much heat do ur systems generate after a few hours of use?

mine seems to generate a lot of heat, is this normal?

thanks

[Talamasca]

ps3 40gb:

how much heat do ur systems generate after a few hours of use?

mine seems to generate a lot of heat, is this normal?

thanks

Mine blows some warm air out the back but other than that, it's pretty cool. Remarkably quiet too.

[reptar]

Mine blows some warm air out the back but other than that, it's pretty cool. Remarkably quiet too.

does it constantly blow out warm air?

my system gets warm after a few hours and a lot of warm are is generated
just want to verify if this is normal or not before I decide to replace my unit at best buy next week.

thanks

[skanji]

does it constantly blow out warm air?

my system gets warm after a few hours and a lot of warm are is generated
just want to verify if this is normal or not before I decide to replace my unit at best buy next week.

thanks

+1 for my 80gb unit...

[skanji]

yeah, but going through the last 50 pages of posts hasn't yielded much info of value...

does anyone know why video would be showing on my ps3, but not music or photos?

also, i am now getting an error (media server error: a network error has occurred. (8001000B)

i went to the links you guys suggested, but nothing there.

music and photos not showing and i'm getting a ps3 error 4405. googling hasn't turned up much either that is substantive.

using wmp 11 - are you guys all doing the same?

[maebach]

i went to the links you guys suggested, but nothing there.

music and photos not showing and i'm getting a ps3 error 4405. googling hasn't turned up much either that is substantive.

using wmp 11 - are you guys all doing the same?

TVersity. I ahve a few movies and songs on the PS3 HDD itself.

[bumboclott]

Anyone think UT3 is worth a purchase? I'm thinking of trading in Assassin's Creed for it. The dude at EB said the TIV for it is $40...

Yeah... so anyone who has it, how does it compare to COD4?

[skanji]

just a heads up to anyone getting a ps3...the support is quite bad and the online community is not as developed yet to assist noobs...

i'd give it another year or so before you jump on board, especially if you need assistance.

[mark_in_2k]

At the end of the day, the PS3 is a games console, which it works well at, and with very little knowledge needed by the average person.

If you want to get into media sharing, then yes, it is a little more complicated as it involves networking 2 or more devices together. Are you using wifi, or wired to network your PS3 to computer?

[skanji]

At the end of the day, the PS3 is a games console, which it works well at, and with very little knowledge needed by the average person.

If you want to get into media sharing, then yes, it is a little more complicated as it involves networking 2 or more devices together. Are you using wifi, or wired to network your PS3 to computer?

wired to network. using wmp 11. will try tversity tomorrow

not sure what cryptic errors as mentioned above are...absolutely horrendous support for the tool...

[skanji]

any of you have experience with this?
http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10075793&catid=24673
http://www.futureshop.ca/multimedia/products/large/10075793.jpg

PS2 to PS3 Converter allows your PS2 Controllers to work with the PS3 Console. It connects easily & securely to the USB port of the PS3 Console. It is a perfect backup device while your PS3 Controllers are charging. More Info
* Instant response & smooth game play with your PS3 Console
* 4 Player LED indicators for multi gaming
* Synchronization button on Adaptor allows trouble free gaming with your console

So basically this is a multitap for ps2 controllers on your ps3 + an adapter?

Any of you guys have this??

[Vaughn Whynot]

any of you have experience with this?
http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10075793&catid=24673
http://www.futureshop.ca/multimedia/products/large/10075793.jpg

PS2 to PS3 Converter allows your PS2 Controllers to work with the PS3 Console. It connects easily & securely to the USB port of the PS3 Console. It is a perfect backup device while your PS3 Controllers are charging. More Info
* Instant response & smooth game play with your PS3 Console
* 4 Player LED indicators for multi gaming
* Synchronization button on Adaptor allows trouble free gaming with your console

So basically this is a multitap for ps2 controllers on your ps3 + an adapter?

Any of you guys have this??

you plug it in to the usb ports on the ps3 and plug a controller in...it should detect it...

[maebach]

Do you guys know if you have to sue the USb cable to sync the controllers? I was just thinking this morning, 'what if I lost the wire?'. So Is there a way like the X360 in which we can wirelessly connect the controller to th system?

[marcopolo85]

Anyone else here trying to score rockband? cant find it anywhere.

Do you guys know if you have to sue the USb cable to sync the controllers? I was just thinking this morning, 'what if I lost the wire?'. So Is there a way like the X360 in which we can wirelessly connect the controller to th system?

no i dont think so, just buy another cable you can get them anywhere and for cheap.

[rdtx2002]

I hope sony goes down in flames - burn baby burn.


Long live Revolution and the up and comer 360.

I am buying up cheap GC games now to enjoy the backward compatibility of the Revolution.

it's morons like yourself that cause flame wars

[pgfreak]

just a heads up to anyone getting a ps3...the support is quite bad and the online community is not as developed yet to assist noobs...

i'd give it another year or so before you jump on board, especially if you need assistance.

i find the support pleasant, and there is a good community... go to the playstation.com forums

the playstation 3 section is VERY active there

[bmaz]

I hope sony goes down in flames - burn baby burn.


Long live Revolution and the up and comer 360.

I am buying up cheap GC games now to enjoy the backward compatibility of the Revolution.it's morons like yourself that cause flame wars
Have you been drinking? That post was over 2.5 years ago.

[rdtx2002]

Have you been drinking? That post was over 2.5 years ago.


strange.. i wonder how that post got on my screen LOL

[Menace]

LOL it is the seasons of drinking :D Happy New Year and drink on :cheesygri :cheesygri

strange.. i wonder how that post got on my screen LOL

[skanji]

tried wmp11 - only video showed, no pics or music
tried tversity - server didn't even show on ps3...after several tries (removed firewall too)
now will try nero

(sigh!)

[nfnx]

i just bought a 1080p tv, now if i plug my system into the tv and set it to 1080p does it automatically scale itself when a 720 p game is in? or do i have to constantly manually adjust it??


and what does it mean when the screen flickers at 1080p?

[shannn]

Hey everyone,

Did anyone download "The Club" Demo from the Euro PSN Store? How is it?

[jeeva86]

tried wmp11 - only video showed, no pics or music
tried tversity - server didn't even show on ps3...after several tries (removed firewall too)
now will try nero

(sigh!)

I use Nero for Media Server capabilities.

[pgfreak]

tried wmp11 - only video showed, no pics or music
tried tversity - server didn't even show on ps3...after several tries (removed firewall too)
now will try nero

(sigh!)

Use Orb
http://www.orbnetworks.com/

I do, it works.

[brownstein]

tried wmp11 - only video showed, no pics or music
tried tversity - server didn't even show on ps3...after several tries (removed firewall too)
now will try nero

(sigh!)

Try going into the tversity settings while the PS3 is on and go to "Restart Sharing" I find that causes my PS3 to pick up the server when it is not detected automatically.

[Sheky]

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/842/842292p1.html

Check out the destructible environment in the video. O_O

[Badman]

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/842/842292p1.html

Check out the destructible environment in the video. O_O

woah that looks amazing. And its coming out in March as well.

[nano]

i just bought a 1080p tv, now if i plug my system into the tv and set it to 1080p does it automatically scale itself when a 720 p game is in? or do i have to constantly manually adjust it??


and what does it mean when the screen flickers at 1080p?

most ps3 games are 720p i have actually played only 1 1080p game nba live 07

[PSiBeR]

Hey guys I just got an 80GB PS3 2 days ago, got a real dumb question here but.. when you guys turn off your PS3 do you turn off the main power switch in the back as well, or just turn off the system and leave it in standby mode with the main power switch in the back, on?

my 2nd question is. I want to use the Optical port of the PS3 and hook it up to my reciever, however my reciever only has 1 Optical input and it is currently being used by my DVD player. So right now I have it hooked up as PS3->HDMI cable->LCDTV. So the audio is coming out of the TV. My reciever doesnt have any HDMI inouts since its like a 6yr old reciever. Is there some sort of Optical splitter/adapter I can hookup into my reciever so I can use the Optical on my reciever for simultaneous use for the PS3 and my DVD player?

[ATLien69]

Yeah I never turn off the switch in the back...it's still turned off as far as I know...that switch in the back is like the switch in some power supplies of computer towers...no one ever turns those switches off....same way the PS2 was designed...

Hey guys I just got an 80GB PS3 2 days ago, got a real dumb question here but.. when you guys turn off your PS3 do you turn off the main power switch in the back as well, or just turn off the system and leave it in standby mode with the main power switch in the back, on?

my 2nd question is. I want to use the Optical port of the PS3 and hook it up to my reciever, however my reciever only has 1 input and it is currently being used by my DVD player. So right now I have it hooked up as PS3-HDMI-LCDTV. So the audio is coming out of the TV. My reciever doesnt have any HDMI inouts since its like a 6yr reciever. Is there some sort of Optical splitter/adapter I can hookup into my reciever so I can use the Optical on my reciever for simultaneous use for the PS3 and my DVD player?

[bmaz]

Hey guys I just got an 80GB PS3 2 days ago, got a real dumb question here but.. when you guys turn off your PS3 do you turn off the main power switch in the back as well, or just turn off the system and leave it in standby mode with the main power switch in the back, on?

my 2nd question is. I want to use the Optical port of the PS3 and hook it up to my reciever, however my reciever only has 1 Optical input and it is currently being used by my DVD player. So right now I have it hooked up as PS3->HDMI cable->LCDTV. So the audio is coming out of the TV. My reciever doesnt have any HDMI inouts since its like a 6yr old reciever. Is there some sort of Optical splitter/adapter I can hookup into my reciever so I can use the Optical on my reciever for simultaneous use for the PS3 and my DVD player?
Uhm, in standby mode every equipment uses some power, so the switch at the back is to turn it off complete so it uses zero power.
Most new LCD TV's have an optical out so you can go from your TV -> receiver.
PS. The PS3 plays DVDs as well and it upconverts them.

[PSiBeR]

Yeah I never turn off the switch in the back...it's still turned off as far as I know...that switch in the back is like the switch in some power supplies of computer towers...no one ever turns those switches off....same way the PS2 was designed...

For my PS2 I always turned the switch at the back off. So I'm mostly gonna do the same with the PS3.. u know incase of a power outtage and storms heh.

Uhm, in standby mode every equipment uses some power, so the switch at the back is to turn it off complete so it uses zero power.
Most new LDC TV's have an optical out so you can go from your TV -> receiver.
PS. The PS3 plays DVDs as well and it upconverts them.

Yep my LCDTV has an Optical out on the back so how do I utilize it? connect the PS3 Optical to the TV's Optical out?
or just connect my TV's optical out to the recievers Optical?
Yep I realize that the PS3 also plays regular dvds and upconverts them, but I still just keep the DVD player around

[BD006]

Uhm, in standby mode every equipment uses some power, so the switch at the back is to turn it off complete so it uses zero power.
Most new LDC TV's have an optical out so you can go from your TV -> receiver.
PS. The PS3 plays DVDs as well and it upconverts them.

That doesn't solve his problem, since he still only has one optical input on his receiver.

But I agree, why not just disconnect your DVD player and use the PS3 exclusively? With upcoverting and streaming, I haven't touched my DVD player in months.

Or, if you still want to use your DVD player, does it have a coax audio out? If your receiver is 6 years old, it should have coax in.

[nfnx]

For my PS2 I always turned the switch at the back off. So I'm mostly gonna do the same with the PS3.. u know incase of a power outtage and storms heh.



Yep my LCDTV has an Optical out on the back so how do I utilize it? connect the PS3 Optical to the TV's Optical out?
or just connect my TV's optical out to the recievers Optical?
Yep I realize that the PS3 also plays regular dvds and upconverts them, but I still just keep the DVD player around

i dattached my dvd player via component and ps3 via hdmi to the tv, and then optical out to the reciever. that way i think the digital stays digital

[doctorgonzo]

I just bought the 40gb version as I couldn't pass up the $369 Dell deal.

Since the 80gb version just uses software emulation for PS2 backwards compatibility - what are the odds that Sony will eventually include that feature on the 40gb PS3? I imagine it would be as simple as a software update download.

As I see it, Sony is just trying to artificially create extra value in the 80gb sku by castrating the 40gb sku of a feature that really wouldn't cost anything extra to add.

I probably wouldn't play a whole lot of PS2 games but it would be a nice to have access to part of that huge library.

And no - I don't want to just buy a PS2 as I want to keep my entertainment unit fairly clutter free - I already have it loaded with a ton of other components. I like having the option of playing some xbox games on my 360 and GC games on my Wii.

[marcopolo85]

So ive been playing rockband non stop (****ING GREAT GAME!) for the past 2 days and have notticed that there are some timing issues. I would have to hit the drums about .5ms before in order to hit the note. Finally decided to fiddle around with some settings and then realized that you can choose the tv type. At this point it was selected on SD tv, I then switched it to LCD tv. MY GOD it made a world of difference. Timing work perfectly now.

I just thought i'd share this incase anyone else is having this problem.

[Setz]

I just bought the 40gb version as I couldn't pass up the $369 Dell deal.

Since the 80gb version just uses software emulation for PS2 backwards compatibility - what are the odds that Sony will eventually include that feature on the 40gb PS3? I imagine it would be as simple as a software update download.

As I see it, Sony is just trying to artificially create extra value in the 80gb sku by castrating the 40gb sku of a feature that really wouldn't cost anything extra to add.

I probably wouldn't play a whole lot of PS2 games but it would be a nice to have access to part of that huge library.

And no - I don't want to just buy a PS2 as I want to keep my entertainment unit fairly clutter free - I already have it loaded with a ton of other components. I like having the option of playing some xbox games on my 360 and GC games on my Wii.

I say remove the Wii and put in a PS2. PS2 is superior.

[doctorgonzo]

I say remove the Wii and put in a PS2. PS2 is superior.

Thanks - your narrow insight in the matter was enlightening and quite useful. You should probably start going to bed earlier in the next few days as your jr. high classes probably start on monday, right?

[Setz]

Thanks - your narrow insight in the matter was enlightening and quite useful. You should probably start going to bed earlier in the next few days as your jr. high classes probably start on monday, right?

All I'm saying is that you'll get more playability out of a PS2 than a Wii. There's a plethora of great hits for the PS2, and it's library is exponentially larger than that of the Wiis.

[bmaz]

...Since the 80gb version just uses software emulation for PS2 backwards compatibility - what are the odds that Sony will eventually include that feature on the 40gb PS3? I imagine it would be as simple as a software update download.

As I see it, Sony is just trying to artificially create extra value in the 80gb sku by castrating the 40gb sku of a feature that really wouldn't cost anything extra to add...
The 80GB version doesn't just use software emulation, it also uses the graphics chip from the PS2, so the 40GB version can't simply be updated via software.

[Setz]

The 80GB version doesn't just use software emulation, it also uses the graphics chip from the PS2, so the 40GB version can't simply be updated via software.

Didn't they remove the emotion engine in all iterations after 20/60gb?

[bmaz]

Didn't they remove the emotion engine in all iterations after 20/60gb?
That's correct, however the emotion engine is the CPU, I said graphics chip ie. GPU.

[doctorgonzo]

The 80GB version doesn't just use software emulation, it also uses the graphics chip from the PS2, so the 40GB version can't simply be updated via software.

Ahh. Thanks for the info. I didn't know that.

An interesting thing on the back of the 40gb PS3 box - it states that some Playstation games may work. Is this done through emulation?

[bmaz]

Ahh. Thanks for the info. I didn't know that.

An interesting thing on the back of the 40gb PS3 box - it states that some Playstation games may work. Is this done through emulation?
PS1 games will work, thats done completely through software emulation.

[ATLien69]

yeah having the same problem with rock band as well...however after I selected LCD tv and tried various manual settings, the drums still seem off to me....like you said it doesn't feel right and I always have to hit the drums a bit before the beat it seems...makes the game really pointless...

So ive been playing rockband non stop (****ING GREAT GAME!) for the past 2 days and have notticed that there are some timing issues. I would have to hit the drums about .5ms before in order to hit the note. Finally decided to fiddle around with some settings and then realized that you can choose the tv type. At this point it was selected on SD tv, I then switched it to LCD tv. MY GOD it made a world of difference. Timing work perfectly now.

I just thought i'd share this incase anyone else is having this problem.

[Canadianpsycho]

Is it fairly easy to install Linux on the PS3? Which distro is easiest - the Yellow Dog Sony endorses?

I'd like to be able to run a fully functioning web browser as opposed to the crippled PS3 one.

[giltron]

i dattached my dvd player via component and ps3 via hdmi to the tv, and then optical out to the reciever. that way i think the digital stays digital

This is also the way that I ended up doing it for my ps3 and receiver. Running optical out from the ps3 -> tv -> receiver had issue for me btw on my samsung tv.

Dvds look so much nicer on the ps3 than my old dvd player (even though it claimed to upconvert to 1080i).

And its very good to have the bluray disc option set to bitstream for the optical cable. That caused me some frustration initially because of my lack of knowledge.

[giltron]

Is it fairly easy to install Linux on the PS3? Which distro is easiest - the Yellow Dog Sony endorses?

I'd like to be able to run a fully functioning web browser as opposed to the crippled PS3 one.


I have ubuntu running on mine (instructions and custom kernal downloadable at http://psubuntu.com/)

[PSiBeR]

That doesn't solve his problem, since he still only has one optical input on his receiver.

But I agree, why not just disconnect your DVD player and use the PS3 exclusively? With upcoverting and streaming, I haven't touched my DVD player in months.

Or, if you still want to use your DVD player, does it have a coax audio out? If your receiver is 6 years old, it should have coax in.

Yep I think thats the only option I have, as I checked out BB the other day and asked to see if they have something like a splitter for the optical input on the reciever and they said no. Which I kinda thought would happen.

The DVD player doesn't have a coaxial output but the reciever does have a coaxial input.. :|

[Canadianpsycho]

Yep I think thats the only option I have, as I checked out BB the other day and asked to see if they have something like a splitter for the optical input on the reciever and they said no. Which I kinda thought would happen.

The DVD player doesn't have a coaxial output but the reciever does have a coaxial input.. :|

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10423&cs_id=1042302&p_id=2946&seq=1&format=2

[jeffyjaixx]

I just finished Heavenly Sword and I'm tell you guys, this is SO worth a play-through. Like one of the Heavenly Sword crew said "this is as close to a movie a game can get" for now.

Just amazing.

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/6126/dscf45592ew4.jpg

[Setz]

I just finished Heavenly Sword and I'm tell you guys, this is SO worth a play-through. Like one of the Heavenly Sword crew said "this is as close to a movie a game can get" for now.

Just amazing.

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/6126/dscf45592ew4.jpg

How long is the game? I'm considering buying it.

[zerocool24]

I just finished Heavenly Sword and I'm tell you guys, this is SO worth a play-through. Like one of the Heavenly Sword crew said "this is as close to a movie a game can get" for now.

Just amazing.

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/6126/dscf45592ew4.jpg

you try cod4? or are they referring to graphics, which even still i think cod4 is pretty close.

[firehawk12]

Hey, does anyone have the phone number for the blu-ray rebate place to check on the status of the order? It's been a few months for me now.

[nfnx]

This is also the way that I ended up doing it for my ps3 and receiver. Running optical out from the ps3 -> tv -> receiver had issue for me btw on my samsung tv.

Dvds look so much nicer on the ps3 than my old dvd player (even though it claimed to upconvert to 1080i).

And its very good to have the bluray disc option set to bitstream for the optical cable. That caused me some frustration initially because of my lack of knowledge.



what does bitstream do? ill try that tomorrow

[rahzel]

How long is the game? I'm considering buying it.
took me 7 hours on normal and 8 on the harder difficulty. if you can find a good deal on it, i would consider it. but i would recommend renting it. it is a great game, but its kind of short and has little replay value. great game from start to finish though. it may be one of those titles you would want in your collection.

[sfu_lifer]

Anyone here wanna gameshare the Rock Band songs?

PM me if interested.

[marcopolo85]

Anyone here wanna gameshare the Rock Band songs?

PM me if interested.

hmmm msging the rfd forums and 5:13AM. Looks like someone pulled an all nighter playing rockband.:razz:

[CFRTim]

hmmm msging the rfd forums and 5:13AM. Looks like someone pulled an all nighter playing rockband.:razz:

sfu_lifer is from the West coast :D

[jeffyjaixx]

How long is the game? I'm considering buying it.

It took me about 6-8 hours on normal mode, haven't tried hell mode yet. I got it from SigElectronics for $35, so I think it's worth it. If you can't find one for cheap, you might want to rent it first. :-0

you try cod4? or are they referring to graphics, which even still i think cod4 is pretty close.

Yup, I beat COD4. While it was awesome, I don't think it was as close to a movie as HS was. The HS crew was referring to the game as a whole, I believe... the story line, art direction, facial expressions and presentation.

HS has some very great and original characters as well (humorous too).

[rollen]

Yup, I beat COD4. While it was awesome, I don't think it was as close to a movie as HS was. The HS crew was referring to the game as a whole, I believe... the story line, art direction, facial expressions and presentation.

HS has some very great and original characters as well (humorous too).

IMO, Uncharted also has high production values like a movie...i think Naughty Dog did a good job with that title.

also, a lot of ppl are saying Mass Effect plays like a movie as well.

[pgfreak]

Uncharted would be better if it wasnt sooo linear

[jeffyjaixx]

Uncharted is my next game on the list. :)

[Canadianpsycho]

Is Untold Legends really that bad? Is it worth 20 bucks? Its on sale at FS and I'm thinking of picking it up - I am a bit of a hack-n-slash action RPG buff.

[Canadianpsycho]

Another question for today: Anyone willing to explain the process of gamesharing? Have a friend and a coworker who might be willing. Was thinking of adding two people and trying it out. Also, is there a better way to do it? I read in one of the PSN gamesharing threads about "dummy" accounts and using points instead of a CC... Why is this?

If I pay and download a game and lose it (planning on upgrading HDD) is it like XBL and PSN remembers what I've bought and will let me redownload? Or if all 5 d/l's are used up am I screwed?

Also, can anyone recommend some good gameshare eligible games? Looking for top rated stuff and good puzzle games. Right now I'm thinking Calling All Cars, Everyday Shooter and that Stardust game. Not really looking for expansion packs yet.

Thanks in advance.

[Waiwai]

Another question for today: Anyone willing to explain the process of gamesharing? Have a friend and a coworker who might be willing. Was thinking of adding two people and trying it out. Also, is there a better way to do it? I read in one of the PSN gamesharing threads about "dummy" accounts and using points instead of a CC... Why is this?

If I pay and download a game and lose it (planning on upgrading HDD) is it like XBL and PSN remembers what I've bought and will let me redownload? Or if all 5 d/l's are used up am I screwed?

Also, can anyone recommend some good gameshare eligible games? Looking for top rated stuff and good puzzle games. Right now I'm thinking Calling All Cars, Everyday Shooter and that Stardust game. Not really looking for expansion packs yet.

Thanks in advance.
You are correct. Create a new account and just buy games from it. That way, your friends don't use your account in case you're actually on it.

It works differently from XBLA because redownloading on XBLA has different requirements to make it function correctly again (for example, it would only work on the same machine if you're offline, otherwise you can only play the full version online). PSN allows you to have up to 5 active PS3 with the same game, meaning that you can download as many times as you want on the same PS3 and you would be okay (HDD swap for example).

Untold Legends isn't bad, but it's definitely a game where you would want to play with someone else. Surprisingly, it had more puzzles than I expected out of that genre.

[Canadianpsycho]

OK found a tutorial: http://www.ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=59032

I have a couple questions though... I make a dummy acount (say "cpgameshare"). I add my CC. I pick the 5 games and download them. I remove CC info and send cpgameshare's account and password to my gameshare group. They then log in and download from the download list.

Now will I:

-Be able to use these games with any user on my PS3 (same goes for my gameshare group).
-Is the game tied to the console or account or both? Can I remove cpgameshare and still use the games on a console? Or does cpgameshare stay on there? Do I ever need to log into cpgameshare again if I never buy games again (hypothetically speaking)?
-Lets say I swap my HDD... If I log in my cpgameshare account (after all users have d/l'ed the 5 copies) can I still redownload it to my PS3 without paying again?
-If my PS3 blows up, can I still redownload again without paying?

Thanks in advance guys.

[Canadianpsycho]

You are correct. Create a new account and just buy games from it. That way, your friends don't use your account in case you're actually on it.

It works differently from XBLA because redownloading on XBLA has different requirements to make it function correctly again (for example, it would only work on the same machine if you're offline, otherwise you can only play the full version online). PSN allows you to have up to 5 active PS3 with the same game, meaning that you can download as many times as you want on the same PS3 and you would be okay (HDD swap for example).

Untold Legends isn't bad, but it's definitely a game where you would want to play with someone else. Surprisingly, it had more puzzles than I expected out of that genre.

So basically if I use cpgameshare and give the info to a total of 5 people can they use the games without restrictions on their console regardless of whatever user they've logged into their console? What about console failure?

[Waiwai]

So basically if I use cpgameshare and give the info to a total of 5 people can they use the games without restrictions on their console regardless of whatever user they've logged into their console? What about console failure?

OK found a tutorial: http://www.ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=59032

I have a couple questions though... I make a dummy acount (say "cpgameshare"). I add my CC. I pick the 5 games and download them. I remove CC info and send cpgameshare's account and password to my gameshare group. They then log in and download from the download list.

Now will I:

-Be able to use these games with any user on my PS3 (same goes for my gameshare group).
-Is the game tied to the console or account or both? Can I remove cpgameshare and still use the games on a console? Or does cpgameshare stay on there? Do I ever need to log into cpgameshare again if I never buy games again (hypothetically speaking)?
-Lets say I swap my HDD... If I log in my cpgameshare account (after all users have d/l'ed the 5 copies) can I still redownload it to my PS3 without paying again?
-If my PS3 blows up, can I still redownload again without paying?

Thanks in advance guys.


You have the right idea. Each time a PSN game is installed you will notice that it's being activated, that means that it will work on your system. Once activated it will work for everyone user on your system. The activations are tied to the system, so if there's a problem with the system, you will likely need to deal with Sony to release the activation. But if you are just doing a HDD swap, it's still on the same system so you won't have a problem (you can redownload onto the same system as much as you like just remember that everything bought it in the download button).

You no longer need the account after you have the games/add-on/etc that you want, although you don't need to delete it either (if you want more stuff later).

The only reason to use the PSN cards is so that you don't put in your CC info and forget to delete it afterwards. Otherwise, I don't see the point in using your CC info. Just remember that purchases require a $5 minimum (if you buy a $2 item, you need to put in $5, BUT if you purchase a $10 item, you pay the full $10).

[Canadianpsycho]

You have the right idea. Each time a PSN game is installed you will notice that it's being activated, that means that it will work on your system. Once activated it will work for everyone user on your system. The activations are tied to the system, so if there's a problem with the system, you will likely need to deal with Sony to release the activation. But if you are just doing a HDD swap, it's still on the same system so you won't have a problem (you can redownload onto the same system as much as you like just remember that everything bought it in the download button).

You no longer need the account after you have the games/add-on/etc that you want, although you don't need to delete it either (if you want more stuff later).

The only reason to use the PSN cards is so that you don't put in your CC info and forget to delete it afterwards. Otherwise, I don't see the point in using your CC info. Just remember that purchases require a $5 minimum (if you buy a $2 item, you need to put in $5, BUT if you purchase a $10 item, you pay the full $10).

Cool, thanks for all your help. I think I understand now. 1 account, 5 consoles. Any user can play after activation and HDD swap is cool. Dead PS3 = lost games, may have to argue with Sony.

I'm definitely doing this. Have 4 guys interested already and nobody has any PSN games yet so we'll start from scratch. Just need to find one more.

[nfnx]

well actually if you have a dead console, i think you can redownload the game??

like if its only been downloaded 4 times, then the fifth can be used at a later time..


anyways


KILLZONE2. im buying into the hype... oh it looks so good

[marcopolo85]

Uncharted is my next game on the list. :)

Same here, im pretty excited about it.

well actually if you have a dead console, i think you can redownload the game??

like if its only been downloaded 4 times, then the fifth can be used at a later time..


anyways


KILLZONE2. im buying into the hype... oh it looks so good

Looks like youve been killzoned.

[Canadianpsycho]

Can you gameshare the PSone games?

Are there any games (aside from Warhawk and its expansion) that CAN'T be gameshared?

[sfu_lifer]

Is Untold Legends really that bad? Is it worth 20 bucks? Its on sale at FS and I'm thinking of picking it up - I am a bit of a hack-n-slash action RPG buff.

It's HORRIBLE. Don't even bother. Save your money for Heavenly Sword instead if you want a great hack and slash (short though). I wouldn't play Untold Legends if they PAID me to play it. A friend of mine made the mistake of purchasing that POS.

[azn_dan]

Hey guys, i just got an 80gb ps3 and had a few questions.

My friend keeps telling that i am able to install my games and that i dont need cds to play them after... is that true? I keep looking around but theres nothiing to be found.

If this can be done, can anybody pm me the details. Thanks in advance.

[AlphaTwo]

Hey guys, i just got an 80gb ps3 and had a few questions.

My friend keeps telling that i am able to install my games and that i dont need cds to play them after... is that true? I keep looking around but theres nothiing to be found.

If this can be done, can anybody pm me the details. Thanks in advance.Full PS3 games requires the disk. Most games have an install option to cache data to improve load times, but nothing that comes close to the entire game.

Speaking of which: DMC4 "requires" installs. Time to start freeing up 4.8GB of data!

[mark_in_2k]

Full PS3 games requires the disk. Most games have an install option to cache data to improve load times, but nothing that comes close to the entire game.

Speaking of which: DMC4 "requires" installs. Time to start freeing up 4.8GB of data!It requires 100% install???!

[blahs]

Ok there seriously has to be a way for me to buy from the US PSN store. Canadian creditcards dont work, even with an american address on the card as an alternative billing address. I tried to setup a virtual card with wirecard as well and boy was that a bad experience.

Does anyone have a possible work around???

[Setz]

It requires 100% install???!

Nah. 4.8gb isn't nearly the entire game. DMC3 was only 3-4gb.

[AlphaTwo]

It requires 100% install???!It's not the full game either.... I have no idea.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=224283

Install
When the game starts for the first time, Devil May Cry 4 game data will be installed on the PLAYSTATION®3 Hard Disk Drive (HDD). You must install the Devil May Cry 4 game data to play the game. Only one copy of the Devil May Cry 4 game data can be installed to the Hard Disk Drive (HDD). 4.8GB of free space is required to install the game data.

[bmaz]

I am guessing that the GT5 Prologue Demo is no longer available, am I correct?

[sf.]

I am guessing that the GT5 Prologue Demo is no longer available, am I correct?

That's correct. I missed out on it too :(

[mark_in_2k]

Ok there seriously has to be a way for me to buy from the US PSN store. Canadian creditcards dont work, even with an american address on the card as an alternative billing address. I tried to setup a virtual card with wirecard as well and boy was that a bad experience.

Does anyone have a possible work around???What you might be able to do in the near future is buy the PSN points card (similar to Live Points) from the US and then use those on a US PSN account.

[mark_in_2k]

I am guessing that the GT5 Prologue Demo is no longer available, am I correct?

That's correct. I missed out on it too :(I didn't realize that there was a demo for GT5. Was it on the Canadian PSN?

[CSSer]

I didn't realize that there was a demo for GT5. Was it on the Canadian PSN?

Nope, it was on the Japanese store. I think you can still get it if you find someone who has already downloaded it.

[Waiwai]

It's not the full game either.... I have no idea.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=224283

Jesus.... second game to require mandatory install? I better have no loading this time!

[bmaz]

Nope, it was on the Japanese store. I think you can still get it if you find someone who has already downloaded it.
Really? I just got my PS3 and I would love to try that demo.
Does anyone here still have it?

[Hybrid88]

Really? I just got my PS3 and I would love to try that demo.
Does anyone here still have it?

Got the JPN GT Prologue Demo. Someone please post how to get this out of my PS3 for others here. Someone will have to host this too.

[sf.]

Can it be done similar to the way people share other stuff they download from the store? I don't know how that works either.

[bmaz]

Can it be done similar to the way people share other stuff they download from the store? I don't know how that works either.
I did some research, it doesn't seem like it can be done.
The only way it seems possible is if the person who has the Demo, backs up his entire system to an external FAT32 formatted hard drive.
The second user who have to do a 'restore', thereby formatting his current HD so all game saves etc. would be lost.

[sf.]

If the demo was only available to Japanese accounts maybe they'll release it everywhere else eventually. Especially since the full version is supposedly being released next month....

[Canadianpsycho]

Can you gameshare the PSone games?

Are there any games (aside from Warhawk and its expansion) that CAN'T be gameshared?

To answer half of my own question - PSone games look like they can be gameshared. Still haven't heard about not being able to gameshare any title except Warhawk.

Can any mini USB cable be used to charge the controller? I don't understand why Sony supplied such a short cable when the console doesn't charge when in standby.

[rahzel]

i'm guessing Sony will only allow you to gameshare games that are released on PSN exclusively. if they release a BD version, it will most likely be a pretty expensive game, therefore, cannot be gameshared.

regarding USB cables to charge your controller, yeah, any standard AB USB cable should do. personally, i charge my controller in my PC, so i don't need a long cable.

[Canadianpsycho]

i'm guessing Sony will only allow you to gameshare games that are released on PSN exclusively. if they release a BD version, it will most likely be a pretty expensive game, therefore, cannot be gameshared.

regarding USB cables to charge your controller, yeah, any standard AB USB cable should do. personally, i charge my controller in my PC, so i don't need a long cable.

Yeah, I thought about that, but I just got rid of the HTPC (PS3 is taking its spot in the stand) and all the PCs are upstairs... Maybe I'll just charge it when I use my 360. Just sucks to have to be so close if the charge is going to run out when I'm in the middle of a game.

[Canadianpsycho]

Gameshare group is set.

[Setz]

Are the rumors that Devil May Cry 4 is coming on the 22nd of January true? :eek:

Top game I'm looking forward to in 2008.

[rdtx2002]

Sony announced a BD-Live update for PS3..

Ps3 is getting BR profile 2.0

[mself084]

Hey guys - I'm new to this thread, and thinking of getting a PS3 in the next month or two. Couple questions: 1) Will there be a firmware update to support BD 2.0? (or will new units ship with that already?) 2) any more news on the white ps3 out in japan coming to north america? and 3) realistically any good chance of sales/price drops in the next 2 months?

Thanks! look forwarding to contributing here, if I get the ps3 :)

[rdtx2002]

Hey guys - I'm new to this thread, and thinking of getting a PS3 in the next month or two. Couple questions: 1) Will there be a firmware update to support BD 2.0? (or will new units ship with that already?) 2) any more news on the white ps3 out in japan coming to north america? and 3) realistically any good chance of sales/price drops in the next 2 months?

Thanks! look forwarding to contributing here, if I get the ps3 :)

1. see above post.
2. eventually... eventually
3. no.. next price drop will probably be Xmas.

[mself084]

1. see above post.
2. eventually... eventually
3. no.. next price drop will probably be Xmas.

Was the firmware update to 2.0 announced at CES? I can't find any links, if someone can hook me up.

Thanks

[Spongebobnopants]

Hey guys - I'm new to this thread, and thinking of getting a PS3 in the next month or two. Couple questions: 1) Will there be a firmware update to support BD 2.0? (or will new units ship with that already?) 2) any more news on the white ps3 out in japan coming to north america? and 3) realistically any good chance of sales/price drops in the next 2 months?

Thanks! look forwarding to contributing here, if I get the ps3 :)

I'm not even going to go into how awesome the PS3 is. Concerning the BD 2.0 here ya go.

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=813

BTW, did anyone download the over the sholder cam mod for UT3 on PS3? It's pretty awesome! The only thing left is for someone to cook a cover system mod and we have "Gears of UT3". Sweet!

[jeffyjaixx]

Yakuza 3 demo is out on the Japanese PSN.

BOTH DEMOES ARE UP DLING NOW OMG!

The name in English is Yakuza 3

And if you cannot read Japanese it is on the right had side for new downloads and look for l 龍が如く　見夢

There are 2 demos for Yakuza 3 which are 2 separate parts of the game.

From what I know, the first part is part of the storyline while the other part is just mini-games.

[rdtx2002]

Was the firmware update to 2.0 announced at CES? I can't find any links, if someone can hook me up.

Thanks

CES 2008: Sony Showcases 2 BD-Live Players

Posted January 6, 2008 by Josh

CES At the Sony booth, they are showcasing two new prototype BD-Live players. The Sapphire 3 and 4 will both be Profile 2.0. Sony also has indicated that the PS3 will get a BD-Live upgrade sometime in the future.

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=813

[Sheky]

Yakuza 3 demo is out on the Japanese PSN.



From what I know, the first part is part of the storyline while the other part is just mini-games.

Oh now they've done it. I'm gonna have to get myself a JPN PSN ID now...

[Martinga]

Can you have 2 seperate id's?

[Waiwai]

Can you have 2 seperate id's?

Yes, but each one is linked to a different email address.

[marcopolo85]

http://blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/archives/006194.html
The concept of copying a lower-resolution version of a film from a packaged media disc to a portable device is not new--in fact, late last year, Fox and Warner released the first standard definition titles to offer this capability (on Live Free, Die Hard and Harry Potter: The Order of the Phoenix, respectively).

Sony today demonstrated the next level of disc copying. At the company's booth at CES, Sony demonstrated how you could put a Blu-ray Disc movie into a Playstation 3 and copy the film to a Playstation Portable or a Memory Stick. "This way, you can have a portable copy you can take with you," explains David Bishop, president of Sony Pictures Home Entertainment.

"There was always the promise of greater interactivity. You'll see that coming in the new year," Bishop added. In addition to the PSP copying example, Sony also demonstrated how you could download ring tones and new content to a BD Live player, using Men in Black as the example.

BD Live is proving to be a big catchphrase at the show: Panasonic announced its BD Live player yesterday, Fox showcased an early version of its Alien vs. Predator multiplayer game at the Blu-ray Disc Association's booth, and Sony showed its interactive Men in Black trivia game. The game was being played by two people in two locations on a Playstation 3.
I want this now.

[maebach]

http://blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/archives/006194.html

I want this now.

thats pretty amazing

[numb555]

Wow, just wow...

[sfu_lifer]

thats pretty amazing

+1. I would buy more Blu-Ray movies once this is in effect.

[Sheky]

Just made a JPN account to download the Yakuza 3 demo. The bloody thing keeps signing me out though. Is this a JPN PSN problem? I think it must've timed me out like 3 or 4 times when I was signing up the account.

[Canadianpsycho]

Uncharted is pretty neat. But I'm really hating that R1 and L1 are used for aiming and firing. I'd prefer to use the "trigger" shoulder buttons.

[rdtx2002]

Uncharted is pretty neat. But I'm really hating that R1 and L1 are used for aiming and firing. I'd prefer to use the "trigger" shoulder buttons.

can't you calibrate the controls?

[Setz]

I hate the R2 and L2 triggers. In all PS2 FPS games I've played, it's always been R1 primary fire, R2 secondary fire or grenade. I was disappointed by FEAR's R2 primary fire. Can't calibrate either.

Orange Box had R2 primary, L2 secondary which I think is the worst setup ever. Fortunately you can change it.

[Canadianpsycho]

can't you calibrate the controls?

No :( Its not horrible, just takes getting used to.

I hate the R2 and L2 triggers. In all PS2 FPS games I've played, it's always been R1 primary fire, R2 secondary fire or grenade. I was disappointed by FEAR's R2 primary fire. Can't calibrate either.

Orange Box had R2 primary, L2 secondary which I think is the worst setup ever. Fortunately you can change it.

Boils down to personal preference I guess. I'm used to the 360 where the bumpers are usually secondary things. Besides, I have larger hands and the lower triggers are more comfotable.

[CFRTim]

In-game XMB support coming sometime in 2008

http://ps3.thegamereviews.com/story-382-CES-2008-Sony-Confirms-InGame-XMB-Sometime-in-08.html

Any minute now...... :lol:

[BD006]

In-game XMB support is nice and all, but I'm still waiting for the PS3 to be able to decode DTS-HD MA.

[jeffyjaixx]

IGN's latest Podcast Beyond on DMC4

"You have to install (on the PS3 version). On the plus of that it practically eliminates most of the load times. It is one of those things where it is almost seamless. You maybe get that loading screen for half a second to a second then you're right back into the action."

"The 360 preview version that we have the loading is at least 5-10 seconds depending upon the level. It is significant. This is because the 360 does not have the install option."

[rollen]

is it worth it to play through 1-3 for DMC? Are the storylines significant enough that it ties into part 4?

[Anteros]

I just recently played through DMC1 and DMC3. I skipped DMC2 since I heard it was so terrible.

They're both a lot of fun, but I'd recommend you give them a shot before you buy DMC4 since the game play will be similar. If you don't like the game play in 1 & 3 then you probably won't like 4. They can also be quite difficult at times.

DMC3 is a prequel to DMC1. Both have good plots and story lines but they aren't all that profound. I don't know how the plot ties into DMC4, but I'm sure it'll reference DMC1 and DMC3. DMC2 - I have no idea about.

It almost sounds like I'm ragging on the games above, but I have to say DMC1 and DMC3 are some of my favourite games and I'm really looking forward to DMC4.

[bmaz]

I hadn't seen any news of this anywhere, I was just browsing Play-Asia's website when I noticed a pre-order for a Devil May Cry bundle launching on Jan 31st.
It launches with DualShock3, it's also available in white but the white version is even less likely to come to NA.
http://image4.play-asia.com/640/6f/pa.115663.1.jpg (http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-bo-49-en-70-2h8v.html)

[rahzel]

is it worth it to play through 1-3 for DMC? Are the storylines significant enough that it ties into part 4?
the story goes in this order: DMC3 -> DMC1 -> DMC4 -> DMC2. so yeah, you can skip DMC2 (at least for now). i think Capcom knows DMC2 was a mistake, and they will never make the story go beyond DMC2. DMC1 and 3 are 2 of my favorite games of all time. a lot of people found DMC3 to be hard, so i recommend you get the special edition. but yeah, you should definitely play these 2 games first.

[rollen]

the story goes in this order: DMC3 -> DMC1 -> DMC4 -> DMC2. so yeah, you can skip DMC2 (at least for now). i think Capcom knows DMC2 was a mistake, and they will never make the story go beyond DMC2. DMC1 and 3 are 2 of my favorite games of all time. a lot of people found DMC3 to be hard, so i recommend you get the special edition. but yeah, you should definitely play these 2 games first.

sweet! thanks for the tip, thank god for 60gb ps3 w/ upconversion :D

now to find these old games at bargain bin prices.