Official Playstation 3 Thread

[jamgyu]

new info, sony is airshipping their second shipment next week.

source?

[joshmxpx]

oh ok. So i think i understand now. My tv which supports 1080i and 720p, will play these games in 720p? I have a projector also, but i dont wanna play on it cuz its not HD. And the store i bought my tv from said not to play video games on the tv, so should i just use the projector instead, cuz id rather save $3000 in breaking my tv, then havnig a little less quality.

You're pretty new to the HD scene, eh? :) The salesman shouldn't have said that playing video games is bad for your tv, most newer tvs have burn in protection on them, so you don't have to worry. He probably just wants to make more money and sucker you into buying a projector.

If your tv supports both 720p and 1080i, then you have no worries, just set the device (ex. Xbox 360) to whichever resolution you prefer, probably 720p, and go nuts.

This issue is only for tvs that don't have 720p. Most, if not all, plasmas (except edtv) have 720p, so its not a big issue for plasma owners.

[kevin01]

You're pretty new to the HD scene, eh? :) The salesman shouldn't have said that playing video games is bad for your tv, most newer tvs have burn in protection on them, so you don't have to worry. He probably just wants to make more money and sucker you into buying a projector.

If your tv supports both 720p and 1080i, then you have no worries, just set the device (ex. Xbox 360) to whichever resolution you prefer, probably 720p, and go nuts.

This issue is only for tvs that don't have 720p. Most, if not all, plasmas (except edtv) have 720p, so its not a big issue for plasma owners.

Lol yeah, I dont know alot about HD. He wasnt trying to make me a buy a projector, i had one before i bought my tv. i just went to ign and i understand it now. I will be able to play the games in 720p.

[SALTY3142]

OK dont know if its been posted yet...but BB online will be selling 10 units every hour for 8 hours! good luck!

[neospice]

breaking news, heres a video on the ps3 line up in toronto ontario.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTks3eNA-As

What are the chances that all those people are Asian?

[sleepyguy]

Wow... I thought it was just rumours...

http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33873393

Lame. Sony better get out the damn fixes asap.

I am impressed with the cooling design though... 1x 160mm fan for the entire unit. Wonder how loud it is though.

I still can't believe they didn't bundle (at least) component cables with it. Lame x2.

Let's hope things iron out as competition is great of us consumers (low prices!). :)

[Tyrant]

The PS3 is apparently selling for a loss of up to $300:

Sony is taking an estimated loss of $306.85 for its 20GB lower-end model, and another $241.35 loss for each 60GB model, compared against their respective $499 and $599 price points.

Though it's not uncommon for initial hardware sales to be priced at a loss for the manufacturer, iSuppli remarks that Sony's cut is "remarkable, even for the video-game console business."


http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=11740

I wonder what kind of software attache rate they're gambling on with respect to minimizing losses.

[Beradon]

I am impressed with the cooling design though... 1x 160mm fan for the entire unit. Wonder how loud it is though.There shouldn't be a fan at all. If that part fails in a couple of years (past the warranty) will the onboard processor(s) overheat and burn itself out like any conventional cpu?

[mark_in_2k]

There shouldn't be a fan at all. If that part fails in a couple of years (past the warranty) will the onboard processor(s) overheat and burn itself out like any conventional cpu?There's probably an auto shutdown if the fan fails, similar to a PC's BIOS. $ony can't really afford mistakes likes cooking CPU's.

[sfu_lifer]

There's probably an auto shutdown if the fan fails, similar to a PC's BIOS. $ony can't really afford mistakes likes cooking CPU's.
Then it'll really be a George Foreman Grill :cheesygri

[Beradon]

There's probably an auto shutdown if the fan fails, similar to a PC's BIOS. $ony can't really afford mistakes likes cooking CPU's.Wouldn't surprise me. They've already blundered with the 720p scaling, ps2/ps1 compatibility issues, no hdmi cable, production shortfalls, and the list can only get better. Hmm and we're only in the first week of release. ;)

[sfu_lifer]

Wouldn't surprise me. They've already blundered with the 720p scaling, ps2/ps1 compatibility issues, no hdmi cable, production shortfalls, and the list can only get better. Hmm and we're only in the first week of release. ;)

Well with the ps2/ps1 compat, sure they lied about the 100% compatible but not too many titles are having issues (200 or so out of a library of thousands). The rest they've so blundered on and there will be more issues that will surface pretty soon. Ah well, at least it's much more silent than the 360 ;)

[Beradon]

Well with the ps2/ps1 compat, sure they lied about the 100% compatible but not too many titles are having issues (200 or so out of a library of thousands). The rest they've so blundered on and there will be more issues that will surface pretty soon. Ah well, at least it's much more silent than the 360 ;)yeah I also heard of the reboot issues of ps3's being demostrated in enclosed display cases. I've said it before and I'll say it again; they should've pushed back the release date.

[kevin01]

http://video-games.search.ebay.com/playstation-3_Systems_W0QQsacatZ62054

:-0 :-0 :-0 :-0 :-0 :-0 mine is at $2000 canadian with 45 minutes left, from a buyer with over 350 feedback. but those are $2000-$3500 US.

[ATLien69]

Check this out:

http://cgi.ebay.com/PLAYSTATION-3-PS3-PREMIUM-60GB-PRE-SALE-W-1-GAME_W0QQitemZ170048312883QQihZ007QQcategoryZ62054 QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

THATS INSANE! But I do believe this is a "fake" ebay user just bidding up the price to ruin it for the seller....I'm all in favour of this tactic...lol..people are so greedy these days... ;)

[jayslay]

hahaha checkout this one

http://cgi.ebay.com/SONY-PLAYSTATION-3-PS3-60GB-PREMIUM-SYSTEM-PREORDER_W0QQitemZ270054974671QQihZ017QQcategoryZ6 2054QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[Beradon]

hahaha checkout this one

http://cgi.ebay.com/SONY-PLAYSTATION-3-PS3-60GB-PREMIUM-SYSTEM-PREORDER_W0QQitemZ270054974671QQihZ017QQcategoryZ6 2054QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItemhahahahahahah these shill bidders are definitely ruining it for the entrepeneurs!

[kevin01]

Look at this one:

http://cgi.ebay.ca/SONY-PLAYSTATION-3-PS3-60GB-PREMIUM-NEW_W0QQitemZ260052795860QQihZ016QQcategoryZ62054Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

The best thing is that, ITS MY AUCTION! The seller is my neighbor, because I dont have 50+.

[DaVibe]

Look at this one:

http://cgi.ebay.ca/SONY-PLAYSTATION-3-PS3-60GB-PREMIUM-NEW_W0QQitemZ260052795860QQihZ016QQcategoryZ62054Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

The best thing is that, ITS MY AUCTION! The seller is my neighbor, because I dont have 50+.

You've got a nice PS3 Package going on there, that's cool.
You know, I was going to say that over the past 24 hours, the prices in the PS3's have actually GONE UP and now they're fetching THESE prices as shown with your thread.

Very nice.

[jayslay]

wait i sec. so if you dont have over 50 rating on ebay you cant sell one??

what other criterias are there in order to sell one, i know its only 1 per user. but what else?

[DaVibe]

wait i sec. so if you dont have over 50 rating on ebay you cant sell one??

what other criterias are there in order to sell one, i know its only 1 per user. but what else?

I was looking for these guidelines on the eBay site and couldn't really find it either ... it's been mumbled around and users have took to it, but I think they were for the PRE-ORDERS and not necessarily the actual system.
eBay was covering its a$$ in people selling pre-orders and making sure that everyone is happy with legit consoles.

If you have the actual console though, I think anything goes, but don't quote me on that. Lets just see who else replies with answers.

[kevin01]

wait i sec. so if you dont have over 50 rating on ebay you cant sell one??

what other criterias are there in order to sell one, i know its only 1 per user. but what else?

those guidelines are lifted tomorrow. tomorrow they will be released so no more preorders. The guidelines will be the same for every other product, becasue as of tomorrow, PS3s will be just like all of the 10000000000000000000000000 other items on ebay.

[felix]

Look at this one:

http://cgi.ebay.ca/SONY-PLAYSTATION-3-PS3-60GB-PREMIUM-NEW_W0QQitemZ260052795860QQihZ016QQcategoryZ62054Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

The best thing is that, ITS MY AUCTION! The seller is my neighbor, because I dont have 50+.
That's awesome. Buyer looks legit too.

So how much did you pay your neighbour??

I see you paid for it in Cash. Could have saved more buying with 20% discount gift cards or even credit card (1-5% in reward points). :cheesygri

[kevin01]

That's awesome. Buyer looks legit too.

So how much did you pay your neighbour??

I see you paid for it in Cash. Could have saved more buying with 20% discount gift cards or even credit card (1-5% in reward points). :cheesygri

Lol Yeah i paid cash (all $900 of it) but i had never even thought of credit cards, i was in too much of a hurry. I didnt pay my neighbor anything, hes selling one himself. Hes one of the people from amazon that is actually getting atleast one, he ordered 2.

i just want anotehr one now, for myself. Im actually even willing ti pay for someone to stay overnight, or someone whos already staying but will save
me a spot

Oh yeah, line ups getting crazy.

http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/16/ps3-hopefuls-shot-with-bbs-at-kentucky-best-buy/

[rdtx2002]

i wonder where are all the sell for < $1000 ebay naysayers...

all the auctions are at 3 grand nearly

[jamgyu]

i don't know if this was already posted but apparently the PS3 hardware and manufacturing cost is estimated at $840 USD

http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/11/16/ps3_teardown/

El Segundo (CA) - Market research firm iSuppli has taken apart two of the first available PS3s and found that - not surprisingly - Sony may spend far more on manufacturing the game consoles than the retail price may suggest. The company is estimated to spend about $840 to build and manufacture the 60 GB model.

Despite the fact that the Playstation 3 is priced significantly higher than any other game console before, the company continues the tradition to introduce the device below manufacturing cost and hope to get into the black through decreasing hardware costs over time and game sales.

According to iSuppli, Sony could spend $840.35 to purchase and assemble the hardware for the 60 GB Playstation 3 and $805.85 for the 20 GB model during the fourth quarter of this year. These numbers compare to retail prices of $600 for the 60 GB version and $500 for the 20 GB PS3 and reflect premiums of 40 and 61%, respectively. The manufacturing cost does not include shipping, a share for the retailer who actually sells the device and marketing cost, which typically are in the range of 5 to 10% of revenues.

Pricing a game console well below the retail price is not unusual; however, Sony is subsidizing the PS3 console more aggressively than it has been the case with other devices before. For example, Microsoft was estimated to spend $552 on manufacturing its Xbox 360 last year ($323 this year), which translated into an initial premium of $152 or $38% over the $400 retail price. The PS3's premium is 58% higher for the 60 GB model and even 103% higher for the 20 GB version.

However, iSuppli concluded, Sony is delivering "an amazing level of performance" for the cost. "The reason why the PlayStation 3 is so costly to produce is because it has incredible processing power," said iSuppli's Andrew Rassweiler. "If someone had shown me the PlayStation 3 motherboard from afar without telling me what it was, I would have assumed it was for a network switch or an enterprise server." Some of the more advanced features of the PlayStation 3's design include dual graphics processing units (RSX Reality Synthesizer from Nvidia and the Emotion engine from Toshiba), the Cell microprocessor as well as XDR memory.

iSuppli estimates that Nvidia's GPU accounts for about 12% of the materials and manufacturing costs of the PS3, Toshiba for 11% and IBM's Cell processor four another 11%. The use of four 512 Mbit XDR memory devices built by Samsung and Elpida brings in another 11%, the firm estimates. Rassweiler also found a 400 watt power supply, which is estimated to cost Sony about $38.

"To give an example of how cutting-edge the design is, in the entire history of the iSuppli Teardown Analysis team, we have seen only three semiconductors with 1,200 or more pins. The Playstation 3 has three such semiconductors all by itself," Rassweiler noted. "There is nothing cheap about the Playstation 3 design. This is not an adapted PC design. Even beyond the major chips in the Playstation 3, the other components seem to also be expensive and somewhat exotic."

[AlphaTwo]

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Avoid NBA 07 at all cost! Gamespot: 4.9

[joshmxpx]

The PS3 is apparently selling for a loss of up to $300:



http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=11740

I wonder what kind of software attache rate they're gambling on with respect to minimizing losses.

Its kind of hard to recover with software sales if you have no good software to sell.... :|

[joshmxpx]

i don't know if this was already posted but apparently the PS3 hardware and manufacturing cost is estimated at $840 USD

http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/11/16/ps3_teardown/

El Segundo (CA) - Market research firm iSuppli has taken apart two of the first available PS3s and found that - not surprisingly - Sony may spend far more on manufacturing the game consoles than the retail price may suggest. The company is estimated to spend about $840 to build and manufacture the 60 GB model.

Despite the fact that the Playstation 3 is priced significantly higher than any other game console before, the company continues the tradition to introduce the device below manufacturing cost and hope to get into the black through decreasing hardware costs over time and game sales.

According to iSuppli, Sony could spend $840.35 to purchase and assemble the hardware for the 60 GB Playstation 3 and $805.85 for the 20 GB model during the fourth quarter of this year. These numbers compare to retail prices of $600 for the 60 GB version and $500 for the 20 GB PS3 and reflect premiums of 40 and 61%, respectively. The manufacturing cost does not include shipping, a share for the retailer who actually sells the device and marketing cost, which typically are in the range of 5 to 10% of revenues.

Pricing a game console well below the retail price is not unusual; however, Sony is subsidizing the PS3 console more aggressively than it has been the case with other devices before. For example, Microsoft was estimated to spend $552 on manufacturing its Xbox 360 last year ($323 this year), which translated into an initial premium of $152 or $38% over the $400 retail price. The PS3's premium is 58% higher for the 60 GB model and even 103% higher for the 20 GB version.

However, iSuppli concluded, Sony is delivering "an amazing level of performance" for the cost. "The reason why the PlayStation 3 is so costly to produce is because it has incredible processing power," said iSuppli's Andrew Rassweiler. "If someone had shown me the PlayStation 3 motherboard from afar without telling me what it was, I would have assumed it was for a network switch or an enterprise server." Some of the more advanced features of the PlayStation 3's design include dual graphics processing units (RSX Reality Synthesizer from Nvidia and the Emotion engine from Toshiba), the Cell microprocessor as well as XDR memory.

iSuppli estimates that Nvidia's GPU accounts for about 12% of the materials and manufacturing costs of the PS3, Toshiba for 11% and IBM's Cell processor four another 11%. The use of four 512 Mbit XDR memory devices built by Samsung and Elpida brings in another 11%, the firm estimates. Rassweiler also found a 400 watt power supply, which is estimated to cost Sony about $38.

"To give an example of how cutting-edge the design is, in the entire history of the iSuppli Teardown Analysis team, we have seen only three semiconductors with 1,200 or more pins. The Playstation 3 has three such semiconductors all by itself," Rassweiler noted. "There is nothing cheap about the Playstation 3 design. This is not an adapted PC design. Even beyond the major chips in the Playstation 3, the other components seem to also be expensive and somewhat exotic."


Sounds like a total fanboy to me...

[jda]

Sounds like a total fanboy to me...

No, it really is that technological advanced
Strictly from hardware point of view...having 9 processor cores on a single die is crazy. Just to get the yield up there is a great challenge.
In addition, to have 9 cores work concurrently is a great architectural challenge on its own.

As for software, I don't have a clue how well the games are going to be.

[bmaz]

No, it really is that technological advanced
Strictly from hardware point of view...having 9 processor cores on a single die is crazy. Just to get the yield up there is a great challenge.
In addition, to have 9 cores work concurrently is a great architectural challenge on its own.

As for software, I don't have a clue how well the games are going to be.
I have been saying that for a while back, Intel has only so far gotten 4 cores on a Die.
Plus this has the blu-ray player and full HD support via HDMI, I still can't afford it though.
I give it 2 year to beat the 360 in terms of graphics and content.

[joshmxpx]

I have been saying that for a while back, Intel has only so far gotten 4 cores on a Die.
Plus this has the blu-ray player and full HD support via HDMI, I still can't afford it though.
I give it 2 year to beat the 360 in terms of graphics and content.

Interesting read for the market share debate:

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/11/15/merrill-lynch-predicts-x360-as-next-gen-market-victor/

[Tyrant]

No, it really is that technological advanced
Strictly from hardware point of view...having 9 processor cores on a single die is crazy. Just to get the yield up there is a great challenge.
In addition, to have 9 cores work concurrently is a great architectural challenge on its own.

As for software, I don't have a clue how well the games are going to be.

...except it's not 9 processor cores.

Here's a quote from another forum that provides some clarification:

The Cell does NOT have 7 cores. SPE's do NOT equal cores. This is a common misconception. The Cell only has 1 core. A core has it's own cache, and can act independently. An SPE doesn't have cache and is dependent upon the core. However, 6 of the SPE's can reliably be delegated tasks by the core in the PS3 (so each can handle a thread).

[bmaz]

Interesting read for the market share debate:

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/11/15/merrill-lynch-predicts-x360-as-next-gen-market-victor/
Meh, Microsoft definitely has a Jump on both of them right now.
The main issue with the PS3 is the blue laser needed to make the Blu-Ray drives, that issue will be rectified in March 07.
A new process to make the blue lasers (less costly, and with greater yields) is currently in development and should be ready by March as well.
Supply issues should be resolved by the end of next year.

[aland911]

another issue is guys camping wearing only underwear

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTks3eNA-As

[bmaz]

another issue is guys camping wearing only underwear

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTks3eNA-As
That might be your issue, because I just don't see how that fits in with the PS3 losing market share to the 360.

[jda]

...except it's not 9 processor cores.

Here's a quote from another forum that provides some clarification:

Yeah you are right..it's actually 1 core plus 8 Synergistic processing elements. Just because Synergistic processing elements is a multimedia application specific core does not make it easier to fab on a single die nor does it make easier to design architecturally. In fact the asymmertic architecture makes the design that much more challenging.

For more details you can read 2006 January issue of IEEE Spectrum, it's a very interesting read if you are into IC design.

[bmaz]

Yeah you are right..it's actually 1 core plus 8 Synergistic processing elements. Just because Synergistic processing elements is a multimedia application specific core does not make it easier to fab on a single die nor does it make easier to design architecturally. In fact the asymmertic architecture makes the design that much more challenging.

For more details you can read 2006 January issue of IEEE Spectrum, it's a very interesting read if you are into IC design.
You can read more @ Wikipedia as well.

This might sound like fanboism, but the PS3's Cell might be too advanced for this generation.
With that said, they should be able to just tweak the Cell's design for the PS4, instead of starting from scratch.

[Alvito]

another issue is guys camping wearing only underwear

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTks3eNA-As

LOL ALAN you got an rfd account.

[jerryhussain]

RESISTANCE
8.6
great
http://www.gamespot.com/events/ps3launch/story.html?sid=6161706&pid=928399&tag=topslot;action;1

[JaGWiRE]

Has anyone played theres yet?
Oh wait, it's RFD, I am guessing everyone here has one up for sale, lol.

[BigBadBoo]

My review:

Its a nice machine. The console itself is a bit bigger than the 360. The controller is very lite, but the guide button it has on it kinda sucks for what it can do. For example, you cant turn on the console with it. The damn wire is also very short, and you have to use the wire to sync up the controller. This might be annoying for many people. The PS3 interface is easy to use, but their online store has a bad interface in my opinion. Its slow and just not smooth enough. The console is very quiet though, thats a good thing.

None of the games were interesting nor pretty enough, except Genji, which looked really nice and best out of the games. Anyone who bought the system to play is gonna be sorely disappointed. I would buy the system when a killer game for it comes out though. I say save your money and go buy a Wii, and buy a PS3 next year.

[BD006]

I say save your money and go buy a Wii, and buy a PS3 next year.

That's the plan! :cheesygri

[JaGWiRE]

That's the plan! :cheesygri

Save? My ps3 is buying me a macbook pro and Canon G7 or Panasonic LMX-2 baby. :D. I am spending it on photographic equipment, I need a laptop for editing on the run, and I need a point and shoot for when I can't take my SLR :).

[BD006]

Save? My ps3 is buying me a macbook pro and Canon G7 or Panasonic LMX-2 baby. :D. I am spending it on photographic equipment, I need a laptop for editing on the run, and I need a point and shoot for when I can't take my SLR :).

Well obviously if you got one at launch... :rolleyes:
I'm speaking for myself, who 1) couldn't get one and probably won't try to in the coming months and 2) doesn't want to pay so much for it.

[JaGWiRE]

Well obviously if you got one at launch... :rolleyes:
I'm speaking for myself, who 1) couldn't get one and probably won't try to in the coming months and 2) doesn't want to pay so much for it.

I think this is a stupid purchase if you planned on keeping it, due to multiple reasons, such as hardware glitches at the launch, but nobody knows how this console will pan out. I mean Sony is looking pretty bad right now.

[civ@uw]

So after a year and a half, and 137 pages of discussion...it all culminates with just one actual comment that provides insight on the console... :lol:

[Neovingian]

My review:

Its a nice machine. The console itself is a bit bigger than the 360. The controller is very lite, but the guide button it has on it kinda sucks for what it can do. For example, you cant turn on the console with it. The damn wire is also very short, and you have to use the wire to sync up the controller. This might be annoying for many people. The PS3 interface is easy to use, but their online store has a bad interface in my opinion. Its slow and just not smooth enough. The console is very quiet though, thats a good thing.

None of the games were interesting nor pretty enough, except Genji, which looked really nice and best out of the games. Anyone who bought the system to play is gonna be sorely disappointed. I would buy the system when a killer game for it comes out though. I say save your money and go buy a Wii, and buy a PS3 next year....Hey BBB, your a brave soul for not giving into the temptation & keeping opening your PS3 & not selling yours like countless others.

I've heard that the PSIII's interface is not that refined yet but im sure thats being worked on..Most people say Resistance is the best game & you say Genji. I heard that Genji is one of the worst lauch games & has long load times despite it copying like 9 gigs to your HDD.

Can you comment on the backwards compatibility w/ PS1 PS2? Had any issues w/ any games yet? Do the PS2 games load any faster or play any smoother.......I guess not since their is no upscaling of BC titles? Also do you have any games that support the motion sensing functions of the sixaxis?

Save? My ps3 is buying me a macbook pro and Canon G7 or Panasonic LMX-2 baby. :D. I am spending it on photographic equipment, I need a laptop for editing on the run, and I need a point and shoot for when I can't take my SLR :)....Drooling over the G7 :). But i agree, I'd soooo get a G7 as well if I didn't alreayd have a S3.

I think this is a stupid purchase if you planned on keeping it, due to multiple reasons, such as hardware glitches at the launch, but nobody knows how this console will pan out. I mean Sony is looking pretty bad right now.Couldn't agre w/ you more...Sony is only looking bad now because there are now 2 other competitors. When PS2 dropped what other consoles was it competiting with? PS1, N64, Dreamcast, Game Boy, Turbo Grafx16, Neo Geo?

Despite all the issues with the 360 (selective overheating, lack of BC titles, huge power supply) I don't think their launch was this bad & I don't recall there being this many bugs nor do I recall as many people trying to sell it. I actually knew a lot of people who kept their theirs.

[JaGWiRE]

...Hey BBB, your a brave soul for not giving into the temptation & keeping opening your PS3 & not selling yours like countless others.

I've heard that the PSIII's interface is not that refined yet but im sure thats being worked on..Most people say Resistance is the best game & you say Genji. I heard that Genji is one of the worst lauch games & has long load times despite it copying like 9 gigs to your HDD.

Can you comment on the backwards compatibility w/ PS1 PS2? Had any issues w/ any games yet? Do the PS2 games load any faster or play any smoother.......I guess not since their is no upscaling of BC titles? Also do you have any games that support the motion sensing functions of the sixaxis?

...Drooling over the G7 :). But i agree, I'd soooo get a G7 as well if I didn't alreayd have a S3.

Couldn't agre w/ you more...Sony is only looking bad now because there are now 2 other competitors. When PS2 dropped what other consoles was it competiting with? PS1, N64, Dreamcast, Game Boy, Turbo Grafx16, Neo Geo?

Despite all the issues with the 360 (selective overheating, lack of BC titles, huge power supply) I don't think their launch was this bad & I don't recall there being this many bugs nor do I recall as many people trying to sell it. I actually knew a lot of people who kept their theirs.

I definitely agree about the 360 launch not being this bad. Sony is looking bad as a whole now though, with all those battery recalls, massive loss on hardware for this console, and what sounds like a bad set of launch titles, they definitely have dug themselves in a hole that won't be fun to get out of.

G7 does look nice. I'm upset that they removed the tilt screen, raw, compact flash, and the bp-511 batteries though. I have a 30D and I would had LOVED to share my accessories with the G7. The lack of raw is the biggest downer for me, even if it is a point and shoot, I'm a raw guy, I shoot raw, it's what I do, I've learned to save my butt with raw. Lack of tilt screen also leaves me wondering, that was an awesome feature many people loved.

I'm wondering if there is a Pro2 on it's way. Even if there was, it'd be real pricey though, so I dunno. I'd get the Panasonic LMX-2, but the lack of hot shoe flash for my 430ex, and the weird aspect ratios losing mega pixels leave me not buying anything yet. Maybe Canon will smarten up and do a firmware update with raw for the G7.

[bmaz]

...Despite all the issues with the 360 (selective overheating, lack of BC titles, huge power supply) I don't think their launch was this bad & I don't recall there being this many bugs nor do I recall as many people trying to sell it. I actually knew a lot of people who kept their theirs.
People forget about all those red ring of lights and the over-heating issues was a bit deal?

The 360 was the only next gen console last year, so for people who wanted next gen, the 360 was the only choice.
Also the 360 was a worldwide launch they had a lot more units.
Most people are selling the PS3 because its so scarce, people in the UK won't see it for another 4 months, so they are willing to pay a bit extra to get it early.

[JaGWiRE]

People forget about all those red ring of lights and the over-heating issues was a bit deal?

The 360 was the only next gen console last year, so for people who wanted next gen, the 360 was the only choice.
Also the 360 was a worldwide launch they had a lot more units.
Most people are selling the PS3 because its so scarce, people in the UK won't see it for another 4 months, so they are willing to pay a bit extra to get it early.
That word bit is damn subjective, eh?

[BigBadBoo]

[COLOR="Navy"]...Hey BBB, your a brave soul for not giving into the temptation & keeping opening your PS3 & not selling yours like countless others.

Nah, I am not stupid enough to buy it. The PS3 I tried out was not mine.


I've heard that the PSIII's interface is not that refined yet but im sure thats being worked on..Most people say Resistance is the best game & you say Genji. I heard that Genji is one of the worst lauch games & has long load times despite it copying like 9 gigs to your HDD.

Resistance was a generic fps, with sucky graphics and gameplay. I dunno what the reviewers were smoking. Genji looked good and interesting. I dont get how they can rate Gears to be so high up but give Genji such a low score, or Resistance a high score. Genji didnt have that long a loading time.


Can you comment on the backwards compatibility w/ PS1 PS2? Had any issues w/ any games yet? Do the PS2 games load any faster or play any smoother.......I guess not since their is no upscaling of BC titles? Also do you have any games that support the motion sensing functions of the sixaxis?

Graphics weren't that great except for Genji. I didnt try any older games. I downloaded some of their demos, it took some time to download but it also took a few minutes to install too. One of the demos took like 2-3 minutes to install, just like a PC. The only game that supported motion sensor was BlastFactor. You can flip the controller quickly to flip the platform on which you fight (the cell in this case, since its a disease that you are trying to kill) and that flips the enemies over cause of the water wave. Its pretty cool actually.

[jb22]

Two guys I worked with went to a PS3 launch party last night and they got a chance to play I think lmost all of the launch games. Any way, the reviews weren't very good.

My first question was how Resistance was, and they both gave a bad review, that the graphcis weren't that good, the interaction with the environments weren't that good, that "Half-Life 2" was a much better game in every way". I was really suprised by this as I tought this was probably the only real game that the PS3 had going for it right now, plus all the reviews seemed positive.

They both went on and on how EA's basketball game (I'm assuming it's Live '07) was total rubbish. I they just kept going on and on about how bad it was.

THe one game that they did say was pretty good was MotorStorm. They both agreed that it looked good and was fun, but the demo the played was only single player, so they were under the impression that the final game would only be single player, so that was their only gripe - but I'm sure that this was due to the fact that it was only a demo.

All in all, they weren't impressed. One of the guys has a 360, so I think one of the reasons he went was to see if he had made the right choice in buying a 360, and he feels he has.

One thing that was also mentioned was how many units of games were freezing or crashing. I'm not sure if it was a heating issue, but apprently it was happening on a few of the units they had.

[Aero]

Interesting read for the market share debate:

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/11/15/merrill-lynch-predicts-x360-as-next-gen-market-victor/

So what does Merrill Lynch know about video games anyway?


Are all the launch consoles black? What happened to white and silver?

[sfu_lifer]

So what does Merrill Lynch know about video games anyway?


Are all the launch consoles black? What happened to white and silver?

For Sony it's always been black. MS was black but changed that with the 360 (great move IMO).
As for Genji, I wasn't impressed when I tried a demo yesterday. Not sure it deserves the low score but it wasn't anything special, not even graphically.
Resistance is way less fun than GoW. I don't know what those reviewers were smoking. Sure it's got more variety with the weapons and the maps are a bit larger but GoW's gameplay is way more polished and 40 person deathmatches aren't all that. IMO closer combat is way more suspenseful and exciting. And I find it very disconcerting that a demo has to "install" before you can play it. That just shows poor programming. For a game sure (thanks to Blu-Ray's slow transfer speed), that's understandable but for a demo?
But for all those keeping their units, take solace in knowing you just cost Sony $300 :cheesygri

And oh, EA gave up on NBA live this year so that rubbish basketball game is from Sony themselves.
For basketball you'll have to go with Take Two's NBA 2K series.

[jamgyu]

my review:

my brother got the 20 gig version and i had a chance to play it for a couple hours yesterday...

THE CONSOLE:
it's heavier than i thought it would be... which is a good thing because it doesn't feel poorly constructed... the controllers however seem a little cheap to me.... maybe it's because they're actually lighter than i expected... you have to attach the controllers via USB cable in order to pair them with the console at first which really isn't much of a hassle but i can see some people being annoyed by this... one thing that's really great is that the machine is QUIET... virtually no noise when playing games or watching movies... the user menu is easy to navigate...

one thing i didn't particularly like is the immediate firmware update that's needed right out of the box... this wouldn't be so much a problem with the 60gig version with the wifi, but with the 20gig it's annoying if you don't have a modem or router hooked up nearby your tv.

RESISTANCE:
So far i've played about 4 levels of this game and i give it 3 out of 5 stars... it's not as great as online reviews have said but it's not as bad as some people make it out to be either... the graphics aren't as good as i expected them to be... the gameplay so far has been pretty standard 1st person shooter type stuff... basically you move through the level shooting bad guys and that's it... the storyline so far is intriguing, i'm genuinely interested in finding out what happens next... the cooperative play mode is a bit more fun than one player mode... im hoping though that the gameplay experience will get more interesting as the game progresses or else it's going to get pretty boring and my 3 star rating is going to drop significantly

BLUE RAY MOVIES:
i watched taladega nights and i'm impressed with the image quality... also load times for the disc were faster than i expected them to be... so far so good with this component

i'll update this review as i get to use the machine more

[joshmxpx]

my review:

my brother got the 20 gig version and i had a chance to play it for a couple hours yesterday...

THE CONSOLE:
it's heavier than i thought it would be... which is a good thing because it doesn't feel poorly constructed... the controllers however seem a little cheap to me.... maybe it's because they're actually lighter than i expected... you have to attach the controllers via USB cable in order to pair them with the console at first which really isn't much of a hassle but i can see some people being annoyed by this... one thing that's really great is that the machine is QUIET... virtually no noise when playing games or watching movies... the user menu is easy to navigate...

do you have to sink up the controller with the wire every time you turn on the console, or just once initially?

that would be a big pain if you had to do it every time.

[sfu_lifer]

People forget about all those red ring of lights and the over-heating issues was a bit deal?

The 360 was the only next gen console last year, so for people who wanted next gen, the 360 was the only choice.
Also the 360 was a worldwide launch they had a lot more units.
Most people are selling the PS3 because its so scarce, people in the UK won't see it for another 4 months, so they are willing to pay a bit extra to get it early.

The overheating happened a little later (not immediately at launch).
Also don't forget, the PS3 was supposed to be a worldwide launch and they bragged how they will do it properly, unlike MS. Well they actually did it far worse since they can't get their act together and get enough units out for the limited territories they launched in. So yeah, HUGE demand worldwide but somehow, I don't know why prices dropped so fast for the Japan launch.

And if you sell to the EU, according to Sony you're actually violating their law ;).

Looking at the latest eBay closings, prices seem to be stabilizing at $1K.

[jamgyu]

do you have to sink up the controller with the wire every time you turn on the console, or just once initially?

that would be a big pain if you had to do it every time.


you only have to do it the first time u plug it in... but you do have to turn on the controller by pressing the "PS" button everytime you turn on the console...

[ShadowVlican]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CTy7Nx0oPI

repost? i dunno.... funny nonetheless :lol: read the wide variety of comments :lol:

[kingsley]

my review:

my brother got the 20 gig version and i had a chance to play it for a couple hours yesterday...

THE CONSOLE:
it's heavier than i thought it would be... which is a good thing because it doesn't feel poorly constructed... the controllers however seem a little cheap to me.... maybe it's because they're actually lighter than i expected... you have to attach the controllers via USB cable in order to pair them with the console at first which really isn't much of a hassle but i can see some people being annoyed by this... one thing that's really great is that the machine is QUIET... virtually no noise when playing games or watching movies... the user menu is easy to navigate...

one thing i didn't particularly like is the immediate firmware update that's needed right out of the box... this wouldn't be so much a problem with the 60gig version with the wifi, but with the 20gig it's annoying if you don't have a modem or router hooked up nearby your tv.

RESISTANCE:
So far i've played about 4 levels of this game and i give it 3 out of 5 stars... it's not as great as online reviews have said but it's not as bad as some people make it out to be either... the graphics aren't as good as i expected them to be... the gameplay so far has been pretty standard 1st person shooter type stuff... basically you move through the level shooting bad guys and that's it... the storyline so far is intriguing, i'm genuinely interested in finding out what happens next... the cooperative play mode is a bit more fun than one player mode... im hoping though that the gameplay experience will get more interesting as the game progresses or else it's going to get pretty boring and my 3 star rating is going to drop significantly

BLUE RAY MOVIES:
i watched taladega nights and i'm impressed with the image quality... also load times for the disc were faster than i expected them to be... so far so good with this component

i'll update this review as i get to use the machine more

Do you have a 1080p TV? I do realize that resistance is only a 720p though.

[jamgyu]

Do you have a 1080p TV? I do realize that resistance is only a 720p though.

yeah resistance only plays at 720p (which is what i played it on)... still though the textures leave a lot to be desired... i dunno... traditionally im a PC gamer so maybe i'm just used to the better quality graphics on PC games

[sfu_lifer]

yeah resistance only plays at 720p (which is what i played it on)... still though the textures leave a lot to be desired... i dunno... traditionally im a PC gamer so maybe i'm just used to the better quality graphics on PC games
Devs still need to get a handle on textures for the PS3. Even Lair/MGS4 is suffering from the lack of memory issue. That's the beauty of the 360 unified memory, you got 512 to play with (and PC, potentially infinite) whereas with the PS3, you deal with 256 otherwise suffer a hit. I also hear the OS footprint needs to get trimmed quite a bit which doesn't help matters any. I'm sure that'll get worked around by the time 2nd gen hits.
Compare GoW's textures to FoM and it's not even close.

[Brownbear]

I hope sony goes down in flames - burn baby burn.


Long live Revolution and the up and comer 360.

I am buying up cheap GC games now to enjoy the backward compatibility of the Revolution.

not me
im all for Sony, and Nintendo, and Microsoft

WHY NOT BE? whats to lose?

[Vertigo]

not me
im all for Sony, and Nintendo, and Microsoft

WHY NOT BE? whats to lose?

Agreed. Competition is good for one group of people: consumers.

[bmaz]

It's funny looking at Futureshop's website and seeing game titles and their cost from the 3 systems.

http://www.futureshop.ca/multimedia/products/medium/10075762.gifhttp://www.futureshop.ca/multimedia/products/medium/10075755.gifhttp://www.futureshop.ca/multimedia/products/medium/10075834.gif
Resistance: Fall of Man (PlayStation 3), Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas (XBOX 360) & Red Steel (Nintendo Wii)
All for $60.

[uddinf]

I plan on owning all 3 systems and can't even find decent review of the system and the games, etc.. This has to be the least exciting launch ever. I guess even the PS fanboys are pawning off their systems.

[JaGWiRE]

I plan on owning all 3 systems and can't even find decent review of the system and the games, etc.. This has to be the least exciting launch ever. I guess even the PS fanboys are pawning off their systems.
Yup, my friend is a fanboy and sold his system today.

I wonder if this is good or bad for Sony. Hype is all well and great, and there is a demand for these systems, but Sony is losing $ on the hardware, they need to make it back in accessories and games, and when nobody is keeping theirs, few people are actually gaming on it and therefore not that many games and accessories are being sold.

[Sgt_Strider]

For Sony it's always been black. MS was black but changed that with the 360 (great move IMO).
As for Genji, I wasn't impressed when I tried a demo yesterday. Not sure it deserves the low score but it wasn't anything special, not even graphically.
Resistance is way less fun than GoW. I don't know what those reviewers were smoking. Sure it's got more variety with the weapons and the maps are a bit larger but GoW's gameplay is way more polished and 40 person deathmatches aren't all that. IMO closer combat is way more suspenseful and exciting. And I find it very disconcerting that a demo has to "install" before you can play it. That just shows poor programming. For a game sure (thanks to Blu-Ray's slow transfer speed), that's understandable but for a demo?
But for all those keeping their units, take solace in knowing you just cost Sony $300 :cheesygri

And oh, EA gave up on NBA live this year so that rubbish basketball game is from Sony themselves.
For basketball you'll have to go with Take Two's NBA 2K series.


I actually like the fact that Sony launched in the PS3 in black. Since all of my gadgets and entertainment devices are in black, a white console will stand out.

[bmaz]

Yup, my friend is a fanboy and sold his system today.

I wonder if this is good or bad for Sony. Hype is all well and great, and there is a demand for these systems, but Sony is losing $ on the hardware, they need to make it back in accessories and games, and when nobody is keeping theirs, few people are actually gaming on it and therefore not that many games and accessories are being sold.
People are buying it to sell to other people.
It's still being bought, eventually the games and accessories sold will catch up as the 'real' buyers receive their systems.

[JaGWiRE]

People are buying it to sell to other people.
It's still being bought, eventually the games and accessories sold will catch up as the 'real' buyers receive their systems.

Yup, but were not hearing hype about games. Last year with the 360 by the time Christmas came around your friends would be telling you what games they liked and what to buy, etc etc.

[bmaz]

Yup, but were not hearing hype about games. Last year with the 360 by the time Christmas came around your friends would be telling you what games they liked and what to buy, etc etc.
Like I said when the real buyers take delivery of the systems and the games, we will start hearing feedback.
PS. It is not yet Christmas.

[JaGWiRE]

Like I said when the real buyers take delivery of the systems and the games, we will start hearing feedback.
PS. It is not yet Christmas.

That is true.

I really am curious how this will all work out for Sony. Also all this stuff about a shipment next week after all that hype about a shortage of them.

[bmaz]

That is true.

I really am curious how this will all work out for Sony. Also all this stuff about a shipment next week after all that hype about a shortage of them.
They dropped the ball, no doubt.
I don't think we can gauge it's success (or failure) until it's officially launched worldwide, however.

[JaGWiRE]

They dropped the ball, no doubt.
I don't think we can gauge it's success (or failure) until it's officially launched worldwide, however.
Yep.

[jerryhussain]

uh oh .. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjAeKMyxt3I)

[veejam]

lol at sony stealing microsofts red lights of death...i dunno why people buy systems at launch, they're all gonna die!

[bmaz]

lol at sony stealing microsofts red lights of death...i dunno why people buy systems at launch, they're all gonna die!
Red is a universal colour representing a warning, ie. something is wrong.

[veejam]

Red was also the Playstation 2's standby mode.

[tonychau]

do u thnk sony should have higher MSRP? and make a profit from PS3 sales, intead of people gouging it?

[sfu_lifer]

do u thnk sony should have higher MSRP? and make a profit from PS3 sales, intead of people gouging it?
Absolutely. This prevents massive amounts of camping/reselling. Makes good business sense as well so that you can earn something off the console instead of losing a ton of money. What they really should have done is price it according to manufacturing costs+a little more to cover shipping/ads.
That's what Nintendo's been doing instead of starting the generation at a huge loss.

[bmaz]

Absolutely. This prevents massive amounts of camping/reselling. Makes good business sense as well so that you can earn something off the console instead of losing a ton of money. What they really should have done is price it according to manufacturing costs+a little more to cover shipping/ads.
That's what Nintendo's been doing instead of starting the generation at a huge loss.
That might sound like it makes perfect sense.
But in practice it would never work, the components have been priced at around US$840.
Thats CDN $960, they are already getting flack for selling it at it's current price. At that price they would price themselves out of the market.

No average person can justify spending that much on a console.
Rich people represents only a small percentage of the population, which is why Nintendo is playing to the masses.

[Sgt_Strider]

Absolutely. This prevents massive amounts of camping/reselling. Makes good business sense as well so that you can earn something off the console instead of losing a ton of money. What they really should have done is price it according to manufacturing costs+a little more to cover shipping/ads.
That's what Nintendo's been doing instead of starting the generation at a huge loss.

If Sony did that then Microsoft or Nintendo will win this war.

[tonychau]

But who is winning now... when people gouging it 4x-5x of the MSRP prices?:mad:

I still don't think price is a BIG concern to the early adapters of PS3.



If Sony did that then Microsoft or Nintendo will win this war.

[Brianflagger]

But who is winning now... when people gouging it 4x-5x of the MSRP prices?

I'm sure others will be able to find lots of cases to the contrary, but it seems possible to pick up a PS3 on ebay for about $US 1000 now (less than double the MSRP)

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250051147155

http://cgi.ebay.ca/SONY-PLAYSTATION-3-PS3-60GB-XTRA-CONTROLLER-PS3-HAT_W0QQitemZ320050647097QQcategoryZ62054QQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem


http://cgi.ebay.ca/Sony-PlayStation-3-PS3-60GB-FREE-Extras_W0QQitemZ180052366054QQcategoryZ62054QQrdZ1 QQcmdZViewItem

[kcjchan]

I'm sure others will be able to find lots of cases to the contrary, but it seems possible to pick up a PS3 on ebay for about $US 1000 now (less than double the MSRP)

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250051147155

http://cgi.ebay.ca/SONY-PLAYSTATION-3-PS3-60GB-XTRA-CONTROLLER-PS3-HAT_W0QQitemZ320050647097QQcategoryZ62054QQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem


http://cgi.ebay.ca/Sony-PlayStation-3-PS3-60GB-FREE-Extras_W0QQitemZ180052366054QQcategoryZ62054QQrdZ1 QQcmdZViewItem

Those poor souls, must have had a heart attack after seeing the final bid being so low compared to the other auctions that had sold for way more. Seems like you can get a pretty decent deal on eBay now especially with those low feedback sellers. :lol:

[BigBadBoo]

Best thing for Sony to have done is to give this xmas to the 360 and Wii, and launch in Spring with a killer app (ie. a system seller game, like gears for the 360). Nothing moves a system like a game that you MUST have, like Gears. I would have bought the PS3 if it had a game like Gears on it.

[c32_amg_79]

Whoever wants PS3's should start calling stores now. The second shipment for Walmart just came out yesterday. My sister and her boyfriend bought 2 yesterday and in Pickering there were 12 and was sold out very quickly.

[bmaz]

Best thing for Sony to have done is to give this xmas to the 360 and Wii, and launch in Spring with a killer app (ie. a system seller game, like gears for the 360). Nothing moves a system like a game that you MUST have, like Gears. I would have bought the PS3 if it had a game like Gears on it.
For some people they can only 'afford' to have one console, so if Sony didn't launch the PS3 they would have just purchased something else.
Besides Christmas is when you splurge, buy that gift that you could never justify buying the other months of the year.

[Talamasca]

Since all of my gadgets and entertainment devices are in black, a white console will stand out.

I believe that was Microsoft's intention, so that it WOULD stand out amongst all your home theatre equipment. Everyone who came into your room would immediately notice the white and green box with the funky lights.

[Marlek]

Well, I was one of the lucky few who managed to secure a PS3. I pre-ordered from Toys R Us back in July. By the way, I highly recommend them for console pre-orders. For both the 360 and PS3 is was completely hassle free and low stress.

So my original intention was going to be to Ebay it, then pick another one up in a few months. But on Saturday it was clear that the bottom had dropped out of the market. I watched a bunch of auctions tick down , and most were going for about $1000 US. Considering the risk for auction fraud, etc., I decided to keep it.

My impressions...

Pro:
- Well designed, solid piece of electronics. Blends quite nicely into the rest of my home theater equipment. Love the slot loading disc slot.
- Nice user interface, consistent with the PSP. Very easy to setup and use. The method they use for entering text is the same as a cell phone - 12 number / letter buttons with predictive word capabilities. At first I thought it was a bit stupid, but they I realized it is actually a little more efficient than a full keyboard (less roaming around w/ the analog stick).
- Very easy to network. Setting up the wireless was a breeze.
- It has a Blu-Ray player. Like it or hate it, it's still excellent value compared to the stand-alone players.
- HDMI. Some people feel this is a *must have*. I'm not so die hard, but it is nice to know the system leverages the best possible connection out of the box. Plus it allows for the system to support the new lossless audio codecs down the road for the Blu-Ray player.

Cons:
- I'm not terribly impressed by the controller. It is extemely light weight which makes it feel a little cheap. It's not terrible, but I like the 360 controller better. I also like the fact that I can simply swap out standard rechargeables with the 360 as opposed to charging with their too short USB cable (3' cable I think).
- No included HD cables. It kind of sucks to have to pick up seperate toslink and HDMI cables.
- The online capabilities are simply not up to the standard set by Xbox live. It feels quite thrown together at the moment. Their online store functions in a web browser, with lag and all. I could go on and on about what is missing, but bottom line, the PS3 still doesn't have the capabilities of Live... yet.
- Game support. At the moment, their really isn't much worth owning, especially if you already own a 360. Most of the decent games are multi-platform titles that I already bought / played. "Resistance" is a solid game with a good story, but ultimately it's a pretty standard shooter. It doesn't even come close to the graphical standard set by Gears of War. Alot of people say it isn't fair to compare the two since Sony just launched but... well MS was first to market on this gen. I think if the roles were reversed there would be alot of trash talk about MS.

Btw, image quality varies greatly from title to tile for both Blu-Ray and HD-DVD. Overall I'd say it's a dead heat comparing the MS HD-DVD drive to PS3 Blu-Ray for image quality.

Overall I'm somewhat disappointed, but I feel that in the long run my purchase will be justified. I don't know how much use this system will see until March 2007 though - apart from the Blu-Ray player.

[Kirilenko47]

To is to the Chinese newspaper readers: just wanted to let you know that I was just interviewed by some guy from Ming Pao asking me a few questions about my plans with the PS3 I picked up on Friday. That's not really that interesting but I did mention RFD in one of my answers so there's a little shoutout to the forum with all the hookups. It's probably not going to be a huge article and may not even get printed but if anything does make the paper, I hope it doesn't make me sound like a Sony fanboy.

[jerryhussain]

http://static.flickr.com/119/301992387_61e213bb89_o.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/100/301992392_fa2d8a4f1a_o.jpg

[Emancipated]

^ That's a lot more pragmatic than smashing it with a sledge hammer infront of a crowd of eager PS3 fanboys. (If you're lining up for a console, you are a fanboy!).

[rollen]

does anyone know if there are any issues with the PS3 using HDMI to DVI cables?

[Ethos]

does anyone know if there are any issues with the PS3 using HDMI to DVI cables?

I got mine hooked up today. Doesn't use a HDMI->DVI cable. But, it does use a HDMI->DVI adapter on the end of my HDMI cable.

I have no problems with the HDMI connection, my TV has DVI with HDCP.
I also have no problems with my optical output.

I do have the 1080i and no 720p problem. This sucks, so I decided to buy Marvel: Ultimate Alliance. Scales perfectly in 1080i.

[rollen]

I got mine hooked up today. Doesn't use a HDMI->DVI cable. But, it does use a HDMI->DVI adapter on the end of my HDMI cable.

I have no problems with the HDMI connection, my TV has DVI with HDCP.
I also have no problems with my optical output.

I do have the 1080i and no 720p problem. This sucks, so I decided to buy Marvel: Ultimate Alliance. Scales perfectly in 1080i.

good to hear and thanks for the input...nice to know that my westy can be used to all of its 1080p goodness...sadly it only takes dvi :mad: but its still a great tv

[ranjy]

does anyone know if there are any issues with the PS3 using HDMI to DVI cables?

i could not get it to work, had to use component

[Jump]

For those of you who are really desperate for a PS3, I heard that there's a store or two in Pacific Mall selling PS3s for ridiculously high prices. I think $1100 for 20 Gig and $1500 for a 60 gig. Isn't that illegal as a retailer to hock it for that much? Not that there's nothing else illegal happening in that mall or anything...

[CFRTim]

Can the component cables from a PS2 be used on the PS3 for HD gaming?

[mark_in_2k]

For those of you who are really desperate for a PS3, I heard that there's a store or two in Pacific Mall selling PS3s for ridiculously high prices. I think $1100 for 20 Gig and $1500 for a 60 gig. Isn't that illegal as a retailer to hock it for that much? Not that there's nothing else illegal happening in that mall or anything...A retailer can charge what he likes. Sony's Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) is $659 for the 60GB version.

[alysomji]

Can the component cables from a PS2 be used on the PS3 for HD gaming?

Yes, from what I've heard.

[abu_sme]

I've read some reports of the PS3 being a bit laggy and slow on some games compared to the 360. Can anyone confirm these rumours?

[uddinf]

I've read some reports of the PS3 being a bit laggy and slow on some games compared to the 360. Can anyone confirm these rumours?

According to reviewers at sites such as IGN.com they confirm that PS3 titles are less polished than the xbox360 titles of the same game.

[ranjy]

I am using PS2 component cables with no problems

[spyd4r]

Futureshop Ancaster just gave out 6 tickets for 6 60 gb units... I was there at opening, but the asshats didn't decide to give out tickets until 30 minutes after the store opened....


so i missed out... what a crock of shiate..

[reptar]

Futureshop Ancaster just gave out 6 tickets for 6 60 gb units... I was there at opening, but the asshats didn't decide to give out tickets until 30 minutes after the store opened....


so i missed out... what a crock of shiate..

did they mention if they are expecting any more soon?

[spyd4r]

did they mention if they are expecting any more soon?

No one knows... But I do know this... If a Futureshop says it has PS3's in transit.... believe them! and be there for opening... 10am.. but even if they say they are not getting them.. hang out for a bit as my futureshop decided to hand out the tickets later... which was a bag of crap...

[Supershyguy]

For those of you who are really desperate for a PS3, I heard that there's a store or two in Pacific Mall selling PS3s for ridiculously high prices. I think $1100 for 20 Gig and $1500 for a 60 gig. Isn't that illegal as a retailer to hock it for that much? Not that there's nothing else illegal happening in that mall or anything...

lol they are sold out actually

they had 30 sold out in a couple of days.

[bullet]

wow, what a friggin surprise, i went to FS to get a wii, or to actually find a wii, turns out they had 6 ps3s, and i got the last 60 gig, so happy!

[siming]

which Futureshop did u go to?

[bullet]

keele and st. clair

[jerryhussain]

Piracy begins ..

http://www.ps3news.com/forums/site-news/breaking-news-world-exclusive-ps3-news-39617.html

[spyd4r]

Piracy begins ..

http://www.ps3news.com/forums/site-news/breaking-news-world-exclusive-ps3-news-39617.html

Zing!

[Vertigo]

Piracy begins ..

http://www.ps3news.com/forums/site-news/breaking-news-world-exclusive-ps3-news-39617.html

Man, it's already been a week since NA release... Those anti-piracy measures sure are slowing pirates down. ;)

[Beradon]

That is cool and will surely guarantee more sales of the PS3. The popularity of the PS3 will surely rise. :)

[SuSHi]

Man, it's already been a week since NA release... Those anti-piracy measures sure are slowing pirates down. ;)

they were probably more worried about getting production numbers up, so can you say DOUBLE FAIL

[BlueMax]

Price killed 3DO. It can happen again.

[JaGWiRE]

Piracy begins ..

http://www.ps3news.com/forums/site-news/breaking-news-world-exclusive-ps3-news-39617.html

Maybe I'll buy a console after all. Linux use will result later in great use a HTPC probably, should be blazing quick for browsing and doing stuff in Linux, and now this with games. Ahh :D.

[Beradon]

Linux use will result later in great use a HTPC probably, should be blazing quick for browsing and doing stuff in Linux, and now this with games. Ahh :D.I hope that happens. If I remember, the modders couldn't get it running under the ps2.

[JaGWiRE]

I hope that happens. If I remember, the modders couldn't get it running under the ps2.

What? I never followed PS2, so I'm not sure what happened with the modding scene. I remember hardware modding was much harder then the Xbox though.

Considering Linux already works, now all we need is people interested in working on it and just loading some HT apps on there.

[xtcnrice]

Maybe I'll buy a console after all. Linux use will result later in great use a HTPC probably, should be blazing quick for browsing and doing stuff in Linux, and now this with games. Ahh :D.

wow already piracy on the ps3.. that is just amazing

[rdtx2002]

750GB... + being able to dump!

score!

[kevin01]

wow already piracy on the ps3.. that is just amazing

will we be able to do this right now? I didnt understand a word that article had... can someone summarize?

[rdtx2002]

will we be able to do this right now? I didnt understand a word that article had... can someone summarize?

1. Install Linux for PS3
2. Boot up Linux for PS2
3. place BR disc in the drive
4. run the command line from the site
5. thats it I think..

[jerryhussain]

will we be able to do this right now? I didnt understand a word that article had... can someone summarize?
Right now people have successfully "dumped" an image of a game onto a HDD. The next logical thing would be making a "loader" to load that image. PSP was cracked the same way.

Though nothing is guaranteed, its still progress in the dark world.

[rdtx2002]

Right now people have successfully "dumped" an image of a game onto a HDD. The next logical thing would be making a "loader" to load that image. PSP was cracked the same way.

Though nothing is guaranteed, its still progress in the dark world.

rumor has the Ps3 file system is quite similar to PSP in many aspects. a loader could come sooner than we think

[jerryhussain]

File Server (http://www.redkawa.com/fileserver/)

http://www.redkawa.com/fileserver/images/banners/fileserver.jpg

Red Kawa File Server is a free file server developed by Red Kawa. It allows you to view and
copy files from your computer (where the server running) to your PlayStation 3 over your
wired or wireless computer network.



PS3 Video 9 (http://www.redkawa.com/videoconverters/ps3video9/)

http://www.redkawa.com/videoconverters/images/banners/ps3video9.jpg

PS3 Video 9 is a free video conversion application developed by Red Kawa. It allows you
to convert your computer video files (like avi, divx, mpeg, etc.) into the specific video
formats that are playable on the PlayStation 3.

PS3 Video 9 can also be combined with Videora, another software application, and together
they can let you automatically download and convert video for your PlayStation 3 using
BitTorrent and RSS technology.

[kcjchan]

rumor has the Ps3 file system is quite similar to PSP in many aspects. a loader could come sooner than we think

The loaders might be easier to get working on the PS3 too as Sony seems to have changed their stance with Homebrew and says that people are free to write and run homebrew on the PS3.

[marcopolo85]

Developers are now gonna think twice when they want to make an exclusive game for the ps3. :|

[rdtx2002]

Developers are now gonna think twice when they want to make an exclusive game for the ps3. :|

what makes you think that?

only about 5% of the whole userbase are hardcore enough to pirate games... there will still be buyers for their games.

[JayPatel]

http://www.mixq8.com/uploads/uploads9/gthd-3.jpg

http://www.mixq8.com/uploads/uploads9/gthd-2.jpg

http://www.mixq8.com/uploads/uploads9/gthd-1.jpg

http://www.mixq8.com/uploads/uploads9/gthd-4.jpg

http://www.mixq8.com/uploads/uploads9/gthd-5.jpg

http://www.mixq8.com/uploads/uploads9/gthd-6.jpg

[marcopolo85]

HOLY ****! :cheesygri :cheesygri :cheesygri :cheesygri :cheesygri :cheesygri :cheesygri

[Tyrant]

Aside from the fact that this thread is no longer 56k and <1650x1080 res friendly, those shots are pretty jaggy.

[rdtx2002]

Aside from the fact that this thread is no longer 56k and <1650x1080 res friendly, those shots are pretty jaggy.

are people still throwing the jaggy issue around?

wake up all people.. all games have jaggy edges

[Tyrant]

are people still throwing the jaggy issue around?

wake up all people.. all games have jaggy edges

All games do, but some more than others...like say, most PS2 and many PS3 games. Said jaggies can become a bit of an eyesore, especially in motion.

Along with that, there's some rather low resolution textures used in those screenshots too, like the decals on the car door and the seatbelts for instance.

[Ryan]

Win a PS3 from RFD!

http://www.redflagdeals.com/deals/main.php/6thanniversary/ps3contest/

[infamous_seller]

holy sh*t i thought that was real life woooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwww

[kevin01]

holy sh*t i thought that was real life woooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwww

so did i... when i was scrolling down, i was wondering why someone posted a pic of a subaru...

[Truemana]

holy sh*t i thought that was real life woooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Too bad the PS3 has only half the experience. Too much time spent obsessing about graphics, not enough on how you interact with those graphics. Although, a failed stab in the dark was attempted at motion sensitivity.

[rilhouse]

jaggies! ohhh noes! :-0

[belfour]

that's incredible...epecially first pic.. :-0 :-0

[Emancipated]

Forza2 may not match it's eye candy factor, but it will still take a big steamng dump on that with the gameplay physics.

Sure looks purrrrty tho :o

[JeiJei]

Forza2 may not match it's eye candy factor, but it will still take a big steamng dump on that with the gameplay physics.

Sure looks purrrrty tho :o

You serious about the physics? I have played both GT3/4 and Forza... and IMHO in term of real-world physics (that's what simulator supposed to do).. nothing comes close to GT.. I moto-xed a few times and in term of driving experience, GT is the closest thing I've seen

The only cons GT series is that the car won't break even you crash it hard, but not really sth that would stop me playing GT.

Also, if you happen to try the 900" Logitech wheel.. you don't want anything less than 900... the wireless wheel that M$ came up is a joke comparing the the original Logitech pro... and much worse comparing to the new G25.

[Ch28]

Damn those pics of GTHD look awesome

[kingsley]

The first picture is real but the other ones are screenshots. You can tell because the guy in the other picture looks CG.

[bmaz]

The first picture is real but the other ones are screenshots. You can tell because the guy in the other picture looks CG.
Maybe u didn't have a good look, but the guy is in every one of those pics (including the first one) he looks the same throughout, as does the car.

[Jaytee]

Anyone get a bluetooth headset working with their PS3? If so, what kind is it? Doesnt seem to recognize my Motorola headset.

[coeternity]

the picture using the included s-video looks so suck on costco $999 viewsonic

[coeternity]

http://www.mixq8.com/uploads/uploads9/gthd-3.jpg

http://www.mixq8.com/uploads/uploads9/gthd-2.jpg

http://www.mixq8.com/uploads/uploads9/gthd-1.jpg

http://www.mixq8.com/uploads/uploads9/gthd-4.jpg

http://www.mixq8.com/uploads/uploads9/gthd-5.jpg

http://www.mixq8.com/uploads/uploads9/gthd-6.jpg

when this coming out? they should have this at launch :|

[mark_in_2k]

when this coming out? they should have this at launch :|Ahhh!! There's no need to quote with the screenshots!

[eightyeight]

http://www.mixq8.com/uploads/uploads9/gthd-1.jpg

LOL I use those same gloves for kart racing. Exact same fabric + grip colour.

[spyd4r]

anyone know when the next set of shipments will be showing up at futureshop and bestbuys in Ontario?

[BaconMunch]

anyone know when the next set of shipments will be showing up at futureshop and bestbuys in Ontario?

I got an email from bestbuy saying next stock release is december 8, so does that mean they are going to hold stock for 1.5 weeks?..that is teh gay

[Emancipated]

[IM G]http://www.mixq8.com/uploads/uploads9/gthd-1.jpg[/IMG]

LOL I use those same gloves for kart racing. Exact same fabric + grip colour.

They look like gardening gloves. :lol:

[sfu_lifer]

I'm sure Sony put in some decent protection to prevent this type of illegal homebew. Their engineers must've learned from the PSP.

We'll see where this leads in a month or two.

[ShadowVlican]

those GTHD shots looks good..... except for those *****ty low res textures...

[Yesdear]

What is the warranty period with the PS3? Does Sony offer extended protection like Microsoft does?

[rdtx2002]

GT:HD cancelled... offerred as free download on Boxing Day for Japan only atm. Polyphony Digitial refocusing their efforts on GT5

Work on controversial PlayStation 3 title Gran Turismo HD has been stopped, according to an announcement on the Japanese website of developer Polyphony Digital, with the content so far produced to be given away as a free download in Japan.

The game, demonstrated at long length at Sony’s pre-E3 2006 media briefing, courted controversy after reports suggested that the game would not ship with any cars or tracks, but that each one would have to be bought separately via microtransactions.

The game itself was a high resolution port of Gran Turismo 4 for the PlayStation 2 (referred to as Gran Turismo HD: Classic), combined with a playable demo of work-in-progress for Gran Turismo 5 on the PlayStation 3 (referred to as Gran Turismo HD: Premium) – which was to have included cars and tracks as standard.

The package was due to be released this year in Japan, but the online message from designer Kazunori Yamauchi indicates that instead the Gran Turismo HD: Classic element of the game will be made available free for download, for a limited time, from December 24. The offer has not been announced for any region other than Japan. The game will include ten cars and one track, with no mention of additional microtransaction content.

Although Yamauchi indicated that further Concept special editions of the game may be released in the interim, all current work is now being refocused on Gran Turismo 5, with a tentative release date of 2008. No mention was made of the much delayed PSP title Gran Turismo 4: Mobile.

POSTED: 05.56AM PST, 12/01/06 - David Jenkins - LINK

Source: Gamasutra

[sfu_lifer]

They'd better do the same for NA.
Is there any way to trick the the playstation online system into creating a PS3 account for Japan (like how you can trick the Xbox Live system for downloading "exclusive" region based content)?

Smart move by Polyphony. Also shows how far behind they really were with the port.

[johnwayne]

Anyone have the PS3 connected to a Dell 2007fpw and have the bluray player working at 720p?

[jessejericho]

http://www.jesseglen.com/misc/gundam_pwned.jpg

+Thousands of dollars in advertising
+Gamespot review
+?????
-------------
= pwned

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3

[Yesdear]

What is the warranty period with the PS3? Does Sony offer extended protection like Microsoft does?


Anyone?

[FooNdaR]

Played Motorstorm yesterday, and the graphics are amazing.

[Tyrant]

The warranty period for the PS3 is one year, but I don't know if there's any extended warranty option directly from Sony. There's always the warranty extension provided by various credit cards though.

[Paranoidandroid]

I only hear bad things about Mobile Suit Gundam, but from the gameplay videos I think it looks amazing! Seeing that it's a launch title, I guess it's just a chance to show off PS3's graphics potential.

[kevin01]

The warranty period for the PS3 is one year, but I don't know if there's any extended warranty option directly from Sony. There's always the warranty extension provided by various credit cards though.

as far as i know, sony does not offer extended warranty.

[Yesdear]

The warranty period for the PS3 is one year, but I don't know if there's any extended warranty option directly from Sony. There's always the warranty extension provided by various credit cards though.


Thanks.

[Yesdear]

Anyone using HDMI on a TV that does not support 1080p? My TV has a HDMI input (MY Rogers HD PVR is currently plugged into it) but my TV has a maximum resultion of 1080i. When reading the differences between the 20GB ps3 and 60gb I found two things surprising.

1) The 20GB model does not have a HDMI output.

2) On more than one site it defended the missing HDMI by making a common statement that unless you have a TV that supports 1080p the HDMI output would be useless.

I am hoping this does not mean the HDMI output would not work with 1080i and less. Even though my TV does not display 1080p I still prefer the 1080i output from my PVR using HDMI over component.

[Skidz]

I think the 20g does have hdmi(no wi-fi or card reader)My tv supports 720p/1080i games are played in 720p and the BD movie was 1080i.I'm using a hdmi to DVI cable and toslink for sound

[kevin01]

Anyone using HDMI on a TV that does not support 1080p? My TV has a HDMI input (MY Rogers HD PVR is currently plugged into it) but my TV has a maximum resultion of 1080i. When reading the differences between the 20GB ps3 and 60gb I found two things surprising.

1) The 20GB model does not have a HDMI output.

2) On more than one site it defended the missing HDMI by making a common statement that unless you have a TV that supports 1080p the HDMI output would be useless.

I am hoping this does not mean the HDMI output would not work with 1080i and less. Even though my TV does not display 1080p I still prefer the 1080i output from my PVR using HDMI over component.

20gb does have hdmi, im using it right now. It supports 1080i, but I had to manually do it. The ps3 had automatically set it to 720p.

[Skidz]

kevin01 - if your tv doesnt support 720p it will play games @ 480p

[Yesdear]

20gb does have hdmi, im using it right now. It supports 1080i, but I had to manually do it. The ps3 had automatically set it to 720p.

That's good to hear. I am thinking about picking one up and was trying to decide if I really needed the 60GB model. I found this site and a number like it that said the HDMI was only with the 60GB. Perhaps they made a last minute change in the the design.

http://www.ps3.eu/en-GB/ask/doc/20-vs-60/go.ps3

So you have control in what the res the games run in? That's good to hear as well. I would want to have everything in 1080i

[rdtx2002]

That's good to hear. I am thinking about picking one up and was trying to decide if I really needed the 60GB model. I found this site and a number like it that said the HDMI was only with the 60GB. Perhaps they made a last minute change in the the design.

http://www.ps3.eu/en-GB/ask/doc/20-vs-60/go.ps3

So you have control in what the res the games run in? That's good to hear as well. I would want to have everything in 1080i


if you have a PSP.. it would be recommended that you get teh 60GB to use the connectivity between PSP/Ps3

[marcopolo85]

I just gotta say that my experience with ps3 compared to the 360 has been amazing. Other then the fact that there are not many games out for it at the moment, the ps3 is amazing. Resistance fall of man is awesome, i was playing till 4 in the morning online last night after comming home from a bar.

The graphics are incredible. Im really excited to get my hands on the full version of motorstorm and formula 1. Blu-ray movies look incredible.

I installed yellow dog linux and it runs extremly good from what i can tell(first time using linux) Now i just gotta find out how to run divx movies, anyone know where to find the codecs for linux and what program i can use to play movies?

Overall, i am one satisfied customer with sony's product. Only thing it needs now is better games but that will come with time.

[jessejericho]

That's good to hear. I am thinking about picking one up and was trying to decide if I really needed the 60GB model. I found this site and a number like it that said the HDMI was only with the 60GB. Perhaps they made a last minute change in the the design.

I read the same thing, but wehn I opened my 20gb, there it was. I'm happy with the $100+ I saved, plus I got one at retail price and didn't have to deal with all the PS3 Grinches ;) I can upgrade my HD to anything I want, ise external storage, and I could care less about PSP support and the card reader.

[Skidz]

So you have control in what the res the games run in? That's good to hear as well. I would want to have everything in 1080i

yes you have control of what games are played in 720/480p/480i but as I previously stated if you set the res to 1080i games are played at 480p, I dont think kevin01 realizes this but I hope you do :)

[Yesdear]

yes you have control of what games are played in 720/480p/480i but as I previously stated if you set the res to 1080i games are played at 480p, I dont think kevin01 realizes this but I hope you do :)


So 720p is the maximum games are played in? Is this a bug?

[Neovingian]

So 720p is the maximum games are played in? Is this a bug?...Yesdear, from waht i've found the maximum res PS3 games are played in is 1080P, but the odd this is the resolution its specific to each game. I'v also is found that on the back of each PS3 game it tells you what supported the output is, but like someone else said if your TV doesn't support HD 1080p or 720p you are stuck with crummy 480p. As of now there's way to get around this.

[bmaz]

...Yesdear, from waht i've found the maximum res PS3 games are played in is 1080P, but the odd this is the resolution its specific to each game. I'v also is found that on the back of each PS3 game it tells you what supported the output is, but like someone else said if your TV doesn't support HD 1080p or 720p you are stuck with crummy 480p. As of now there's way to get around this.
The fix is to purchase a new Sony HDTV that does support those resolutions.

[Yesdear]

...Yesdear, from waht i've found the maximum res PS3 games are played in is 1080P, but the odd this is the resolution its specific to each game. I'v also is found that on the back of each PS3 game it tells you what supported the output is, but like someone else said if your TV doesn't support HD 1080p or 720p you are stuck with crummy 480p. As of now there's way to get around this.

Thanks. My TV is a 34" Sony Wega that supports 720p and 1080i.

[Canadianpsycho]

The fix is to purchase a new Sony HDTV that does support those resolutions.

Haha, nice "fix"

[eightyeight]

Thanks. My TV is a 34" Sony Wega that supports 720p and 1080i.

Just to let you know, I have a 50" Samsung DLP that as well supports 720p and 1080i.

Using HDMI to DVI convertor cables, I am having huge trouble getting my PS3 to play at 1080i. Call of Duty 3 says right on the back of the box that it is 720p and 1080i compatible, but when I try to play at 1080i, the screen boundaries go all screwy, and I just get a 720p display with black bars around the screen.

So basically my 1080i = a 44" 720p display :confused: ... Disappointing, but nonetheless 720p still looks amazing, so I just play at that.

[.EE.]

Who's running YDL 5.0 (Yellow Dog Linux) on their PS3?

Very easy to do. Looks promising. You can even run Windows XP through YDL (but it'll be very slow).

[Yesdear]

Just to let you know, I have a 50" Samsung DLP that as well supports 720p and 1080i.

Using HDMI to DVI convertor cables, I am having huge trouble getting my PS3 to play at 1080i. Call of Duty 3 says right on the back of the box that it is 720p and 1080i compatible, but when I try to play at 1080i, the screen boundaries go all screwy, and I just get a 720p display with black bars around the screen.

So basically my 1080i = a 44" 720p display :confused: ... Disappointing, but nonetheless 720p still looks amazing, so I just play at that.

I am hoping this is something that get's fixed. The 360 played everything fine in 1080i.

[Tsuius]

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[Tsuius]

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[Majinvegeta]

Dunno if this is of any help, ima PS3 geek! :O:OO:


The PS3's HDMI output REQUIRES that you have a HDCP capable display, otherwise you will NOT be able to use the HDMI output. So if you are going to use a display that only has dvi, thats fine, as long as its DVI-D and has HDCP capability.

This is why I sold my LCD Panel and am buying a new one, cuz the one im getting supports HDCP.

Its the Samsung 940BW, I believe there is a LG lcd monitor as well that supports HDCP.

Component is different, if you plug in via component, then no worries, theres no hdcp to worry about and you will get a excellent 1080p/720p/1080i picture.

However, recently it was discovered that there is a glitch / bug in the system. Some displays only support 1080i, but what happens is the PS3 doesnt take the 1080i input, it reverts to 720p. So yea, I dont know too much about the glitch cuz it doesnt even affect me but thats what I have heard. So far, no response by Sony regarding it. They havent talked about any fix for it yet.

[kevin01]

kevin01 - if your tv doesnt support 720p it will play games @ 480p

it supports 720p, and 1080i i read the manual.

[twboy1999]

do u have a link for instruction to install?
also,, where do u get the boot loader or whatever it is call to boot the linux disk?

thanks



I just gotta say that my experience with ps3 compared to the 360 has been amazing. Other then the fact that there are not many games out for it at the moment, the ps3 is amazing. Resistance fall of man is awesome, i was playing till 4 in the morning online last night after comming home from a bar.

The graphics are incredible. Im really excited to get my hands on the full version of motorstorm and formula 1. Blu-ray movies look incredible.

I installed yellow dog linux and it runs extremly good from what i can tell(first time using linux) Now i just gotta find out how to run divx movies, anyone know where to find the codecs for linux and what program i can use to play movies?

Overall, i am one satisfied customer with sony's product. Only thing it needs now is better games but that will come with time.

[Canadianpsycho]

In my opinion 720P is better than 1080i. 720P is 720 lines displayed all at the same time (P = progressive) and 1080i is 540 lines alternating (I = interlaced) both are HD. I don't have a PS3 but you should not have black bars around the screen at 720P resolution.

I agree also. Progressive>interlaced. But this argument rages on and on.

Not to mention most sets that "support" 1080i usually just convert it to their native rez, typically 720p.

[Skidz]

it supports 720p, and 1080i i read the manual.

depends on the game (http://ps3.ign.com/articles/746/746282p1.html) both games i have are 720p(NFS:carbon, resistance)

[bmaz]

depends on the game (http://ps3.ign.com/articles/746/746282p1.html) both games i have are 720p(NFS:carbon, resistance)
He is talking about his TV.

[Ch28]

Not sure if this is a repost but here it is

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/748/748610p1.html

Sony drops GT-HD

[Majinvegeta]

Not sure if this is a repost but here it is

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/748/748610p1.html

Sony drops GT-HD

So that they can work on GT-5, they arent dropping GT completely. Its just they dont want to go ahead with such a project, considering there was a lot of negativity towards micropayments or w/e they call it.

So its not really negative news, its just that Poly is going to work on the complete HD experience with GT5, and hopefully micropayments wont be required.

[rdtx2002]

Hopefully this will stop all the PS3 can't scale upwards threads:

The PS3 Firmware Update v1.30 is now available via Network Update, and according to discussion thus far in our PS3 Update 1.30 Released! Forum thread it appears to include security enhancement, sound feature changes, a 1080i scaling issue fix, ability to register the Bluetooth BD Remote, and a back-up utility to preserve HDD data to other drives or MemoryCards and restore them as well.

[ [ With the Bluetooth equipment register ]®of peripheral device setting ], it reached the point where the BD remote controller can be registered. >>You can now go to accessories/bluetooth device and register the remote control for movies (once it comes out...).

[ [ The BD/DVD image output format(HDMI) ] it added toBD/DVD setting ]. >>You can now manually select how you want your BluRay/DVD's displayed via the HDMI... Automatic, RGB, or Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr. Personally don't know what the difference is.

[ [ The backup utility ]was added tosubstance setting ]. >>You can now use an external hard drive to back up your PS3's hard drive in case you need to restore the system later. Guessing you can connect via the USB.

[ [ With the format utility ] of substance setting ] and [™the initialization of PS3 ],it reached the point where formatmethod of the hard disk can be chosen. >>You can now totally reformat your PS3's hard drive (or maybe a new harddrive your installing, or do a "quick format" that leaves important data alone.

[ [ With image output setting of display setting ] "selective method of outputresolution became modification. >>The PS3 now selects the HIGHEST output possible for your TV and displays in that right off the bat. For example, when I selected auto, it would only set my TV to 720p instead of its max 1080i.

[mark_in_2k]

Hopefully this will stop all the PS3 can't scale upwards threads:

The PS3 Firmware Update v1.30 is now available via Network Update, and according to discussion thus far in our PS3 Update 1.30 Released! Forum thread it appears to include security enhancement, sound feature changes, a 1080i scaling issue fix, ability to register the Bluetooth BD Remote, and a back-up utility to preserve HDD data to other drives or MemoryCards and restore them as well. Hmmm, according to Engadget (http://feeds.engadget.com/~r/weblogsinc/engadget/~3/57787324/), the problem of 1080i scaling hasn't been solved.

[bembol]

I also read at engadget that this Scaling problem CAN'T be fixed with a Firmware upgrade.

[rdtx2002]

at least you are able to play a 720 res game in it's 720p/i good ness ;)

it's a step

[Tyrant]

at least you are able to play a 720 res game in it's 720p/i good ness ;)

it's a step

A step? Wow, I don't have to switch from 1080i to 720p before playing a game anymore if I want the image to be in HD. Yeah, that's a big freakin' step.

[rdtx2002]

A step? Wow, I don't have to switch from 1080i to 720p before playing a game anymore if I want the image to be in HD. Yeah, that's a big freakin' step.

still better than manually having to do it.

[Yesdear]

What is the heat output like from the PS3? I didn't dare put my 360 in my stereo cabinet because of the heat build-up. Is the PS3 going to be the same?

[Ch28]

What is the heat output like from the PS3? I didn't dare put my 360 in my stereo cabinet because of the heat build-up. Is the PS3 going to be the same?

They had a huge fan behind the PS3 blowing at it during the Tokyo Game Show ;)

[kevin01]

What is the heat output like from the PS3? I didn't dare put my 360 in my stereo cabinet because of the heat build-up. Is the PS3 going to be the same?

It does tend to heat up from one side. I have it in a good area, but one side gets hot a lot. No noise tho, just heat. Goes away after around 5 minutes of it being off.

[sfu_lifer]

Hopefully this will stop all the PS3 can't scale upwards threads:

The PS3 Firmware Update v1.30 is now available via Network Update, and according to discussion thus far in our PS3 Update 1.30 Released! Forum thread it appears to include security enhancement, sound feature changes, a 1080i scaling issue fix, ability to register the Bluetooth BD Remote, and a back-up utility to preserve HDD data to other drives or MemoryCards and restore them as well.

[ [ With the Bluetooth equipment register ]®of peripheral device setting ], it reached the point where the BD remote controller can be registered. >>You can now go to accessories/bluetooth device and register the remote control for movies (once it comes out...).

[ [ The BD/DVD image output format(HDMI) ] it added toBD/DVD setting ]. >>You can now manually select how you want your BluRay/DVD's displayed via the HDMI... Automatic, RGB, or Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr. Personally don't know what the difference is.

[ [ The backup utility ]was added tosubstance setting ]. >>You can now use an external hard drive to back up your PS3's hard drive in case you need to restore the system later. Guessing you can connect via the USB.

[ [ With the format utility ] of substance setting ] and [™the initialization of PS3 ],it reached the point where formatmethod of the hard disk can be chosen. >>You can now totally reformat your PS3's hard drive (or maybe a new harddrive your installing, or do a "quick format" that leaves important data alone.

[ [ With image output setting of display setting ] "selective method of outputresolution became modification. >>The PS3 now selects the HIGHEST output possible for your TV and displays in that right off the bat. For example, when I selected auto, it would only set my TV to 720p instead of its max 1080i.
It still doesn't answer the question on whether the PS3 has a scaler or not. From this slight algorithm change, it speaks volumes and it looks like the PS3 does not have a scaler. Read up on the avsforums and why their PS3 members are pissed by this shuffle as opposed to a real fix.

[Yesdear]

I hooked up the PS3 tonight and so far so good. The HDMI cable connection seems to work fine. Prior to the 1.30 update the PS3 set my resolution to 720p. After the update it changed it to 1080i. Since my TV does not tell me what resolution is currently being displayed, I have no idea what resolution was displayed when I poped in the included Blue-Ray DVD.

I was hoping there would be some sort of network running now like XBOX Live to download content such as game demos. I spent 10 minutes filling out the registration information for the underground account and when I finally finished it said it could not connect to the server :mad: .

I have no PS3 games yet to try out but perhaps I will rent a few on the weekend (need to rob a bank to afford the rental costs @ BlockBuster :cheesygri ).

It's too bad there is not a banner of some sort to list what the current screen resolution is when you are watching movies, playing games etc.

I love how quiet it is but I think I read you need to leave the system powered on to charge the PS3 controller battery. That could get old quick.

[Waiwai]

I hooked up the PS3 tonight and so far so good. The HDMI cable connection seems to work fine. Prior to the 1.30 update the PS3 set my resolution to 720p. After the update it changed it to 1080i. Since my TV does not tell me what resolution is currently being displayed, I have no idea what resolution was displayed when I poped in the included Blue-Ray DVD.

I was hoping there would be some sort of network running now like XBOX Live to download content such as game demos. I spent 10 minutes filling out the registration information for the underground account and when I finally finished it said it could not connect to the server :mad: .

I have no PS3 games yet to try out but perhaps I will rent a few on the weekend (need to rob a bank to afford the rental costs @ BlockBuster :cheesygri ).

It's too bad there is not a banner of some sort to list what the current screen resolution is when you are watching movies, playing games etc.

I love how quiet it is but I think I read you need to leave the system powered on to charge the PS3 controller battery. That could get old quick.
There is a network for them to download demos, trailers, full games online. Under the Playstation Store. I had no problems browsing through it yesterday, so maybe something was wrong when you tried it?

I hope they fix the display issue soon, I hear it's annoying a lot of people. If you watch Blu-Ray and play 720p games, right now, it's a mess.

[FooNdaR]

There is a network for them to download demos, trailers, full games online. Under the Playstation Store. I had no problems browsing through it yesterday, so maybe something was wrong when you tried it?

I hope they fix the display issue soon, I hear it's annoying a lot of people. If you watch Blu-Ray and play 720p games, right now, it's a mess.

I am confused.

My TV does 720p Max, not 1080i. (which is almost same thing anyway)
So, is it messed up for me? Or will the movies and games look alright at 720p?

Is anyone running their PS3 on a 1680*1050 monitor?
How does it look?

[Spongebobnopants]

Whoohoo! Just got a call from Toys r Us. My 60 gig PS3 is in.

[goldenegg]

I am confused.

My TV does 720p Max, not 1080i. (which is almost same thing anyway)
So, is it messed up for me? Or will the movies and games look alright at 720p?

Is anyone running their PS3 on a 1680*1050 monitor?
How does it look?

Will your TV accept a 1080i signal and downconvert to 720P? If not, you're screwed at the moment. While games in 720P will display fine, Blu-Ray will be downscaled to 480P on your set.

[FooNdaR]

Will your TV accept a 1080i signal and downconvert to 720P? If not, you're screwed at the moment. While games in 720P will display fine, Blu-Ray will be downscaled to 480P on your set.


I believe so, as I can set my rogers PVR to 1080i and it still works no problem, and the picture is still excellent.

However, I think you are incorrect.

It seems this affects older TV's, of which I have one.
The older TV's only supported 1080i and 480P, no 720P. Those are the ones that are affected. At least that is how I have read it.
http://www.playstatic.com/news/198

SO, has anyone here tried there PS3 on a 21" widescreen monitor that only supports 1680x1050?
If so, how is the picture?

[johnwayne]

I believe so, as I can set my rogers PVR to 1080i and it still works no problem, and the picture is still excellent.

However, I think you are incorrect.

It seems this affects older TV's, of which I have one.
The older TV's only supported 1080i and 480P, no 720P. Those are the ones that are affected. At least that is how I have read it.
http://www.playstatic.com/news/198

SO, has anyone here tried there PS3 on a 21" widescreen monitor that only supports 1680x1050?
If so, how is the picture?

Games look great at 720p
Movies look like regular dvd's at 480p. It won't scale to 720p

[tonychau]

CG Trailer

Final Fantasy versus XIII Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSYawSLHH-M)
Fabula Nova Crystallis: Final Fantasy XIII, Versus,and Agito (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBHfFtbZAfk)

[Yesdear]

There is a network for them to download demos, trailers, full games online. Under the Playstation Store. I had no problems browsing through it yesterday, so maybe something was wrong when you tried it?

I hope they fix the display issue soon, I hear it's annoying a lot of people. If you watch Blu-Ray and play 720p games, right now, it's a mess.

I got it working tonight. I think the network is still a little buggy. It would be nice if they set up a download queue so you don't have to stare at the very (VERY) slow download.

[Yesdear]

Games look great at 720p
Movies look like regular dvd's at 480p. It won't scale to 720p

Right now I leave mine set at 1080i for blu-ray and it plays at 1080i. When I want to play a game I change my maximum to 720p and then the games play at 720p. Not really a pain for me because I only have one blue-ray movie.

I finally rented a few games and will experiment playing games at 1080i and playing games at 720p. I can see people with large screens seeing a difference between 720p and 1080i but mine is only 34" so I am wondering if I could just leave my set at 1080i all the time.

[jessejericho]

I got it working tonight. I think the network is still a little buggy. It would be nice if they set up a download queue so you don't have to stare at the very (VERY) slow download.

Speaking of downloads, anyone else disappointed that you can't play a game and download (demos/trailers etc) at the same time? Hopefully they fix that at some point...

[goldenegg]

I believe so, as I can set my rogers PVR to 1080i and it still works no problem, and the picture is still excellent.

However, I think you are incorrect.

It seems this affects older TV's, of which I have one.
The older TV's only supported 1080i and 480P, no 720P. Those are the ones that are affected. At least that is how I have read it.
http://www.playstatic.com/news/198


Nope, I'm not wrong.

The issue you mention is the one surround games. The scaling problem also affects Blu-Ray playback, but in a different way.

The PS3 doesn't scale 720P -> 1080 (i or P) or 1080 (i or P) -> 720P. Blu-Ray content is 1080, not 720. The PS3 will currently display Blu-Ray titles in 480P if your TV doesn't support 1080.

It doesn't seem a hardware scaler is included in the PS3; however, I'd bet they'll eventually have a software fix. Either way, it sounds like your set will accept 1080i input, so it's not a problem for you.

[rdtx2002]

PS1 does not support Component output.

The highest output is S-Video.

[Kurtz7834]

PS1 does not support Component output.

The highest output is S-Video.

Thanks, yeah, I found the answer myself and deleted my posting.

[rdtx2002]

Thanks, yeah, I found the answer myself and deleted my posting.


i was wondering why when i clicked "Quote" nothing show up. :lol:

[Spongebobnopants]

I got it working tonight. I think the network is still a little buggy. It would be nice if they set up a download queue so you don't have to stare at the very (VERY) slow download.

That's strange. The store works perfectly for me. Are you using a wireless router? I was using a wireless router g at 54 mbps and it was crap! It took forever to download stuff. I went back to futureshop and returned it for the same brand, but got one that ran at 108 mbps. What was strange was that guy said it wouldn't make a difference because download speed would always be 54 mbps. I was sceptical so I bought it anyways, and guess what? The speed was WAY better!

[goldenegg]

That's strange. The store works perfectly for me. Are you using a wireless router? I was using a wireless router g at 54 mbps and it was crap! It took forever to download stuff. I went back to futureshop and returned it for the same brand, but got one that ran at 108 mbps. What was strange was that guy said it wouldn't make a difference because download speed would always be 54 mbps. I was sceptical so I bought it anyways, and guess what? The speed was WAY better!

I guarantee it has nothing to do with the fact it has 108mbps support. The wireless NIC in the PS3 doesn't support that. The difference would have to be the newer model router performing better in general.

[Spongebobnopants]

I guarantee it has nothing to do with the fact it has 108mbps support. The wireless NIC in the PS3 doesn't support that. The difference would have to be the newer model router performing better in general.

This might be true! I'm not a tech person. All I know is that it works way better. Thanks for clearing that up. Currently, my router is the Airplus Xtreme G router. It works great! So if anyone was interested, this is a good router.

[Psygineer]

Throughout gameplay and FMA's, when the user’s character walks up or down on screen and the camera pans up or down to follow the movement, four transparent horizontal lines appear across the screen.


Has anyone tried (can anyone try for me) Final Fantasy IX in the PS3? I am curious what the 4 transparent bars on the screen is like, and how badly does it affect gameplay. The reason I need to know is that I have never owned a PS before, and I would like to play all Final Fantasy games I can find (I do not want to open the new sealed FFIX and find out it is unplayable.) (If this has already been answered, sorry for the repost, I have not finished reading all the pages to this yet.)

I asked in another form, however have yet to get a reply.
How is the PS3's ability to use adapters. More specifically, I am considering buying a PS/2 to USB adapter that would allow me to plug in both a PS/2 mouse and a PS/2 keyboard into one of the PS3's USB ports (I have a many PS/2 keyboards, most of them are new, so I do not want to waste money on a USB keyboard when I can just buy a $7 adapter)

[Yesdear]

That's strange. The store works perfectly for me. Are you using a wireless router? I was using a wireless router g at 54 mbps and it was crap! It took forever to download stuff. I went back to futureshop and returned it for the same brand, but got one that ran at 108 mbps. What was strange was that guy said it wouldn't make a difference because download speed would always be 54 mbps. I was sceptical so I bought it anyways, and guess what? The speed was WAY better!

It is a wireless router. I will try a wired connection to see if it makes a difference but I think it is on Sony's side. I used the same wireless router with my XBOX360 and I could download a 700MB+ demo in 20 minutes or less. The 1.30 update took almost an hour and I gave up on downloading the 130MB Lemmings demo when it was only at 20% at the 15min mark.

This has been talked about on the Sony site forum as well.

[Waiwai]

It is a wireless router. I will try a wired connection to see if it makes a difference but I think it is on Sony's side. I used the same wireless router with my XBOX360 and I could download a 700MB+ demo in 20 minutes or less. The 1.30 update took almost an hour and I gave up on downloading the 130MB Lemmings demo when it was only at 20% at the 15min mark.

This has been talked about on the Sony site forum as well.
There does seem to be an issue with the speed of their servers. Sometimes it's fast, sometimes it's really slow. When it works, it works nicely though. I don't think it took me that long to get the Motorstorm demo, but maybe that's because there weren't a lot of people on the network before.

[Spongebobnopants]

It is a wireless router. I will try a wired connection to see if it makes a difference but I think it is on Sony's side. I used the same wireless router with my XBOX360 and I could download a 700MB+ demo in 20 minutes or less. The 1.30 update took almost an hour and I gave up on downloading the 130MB Lemmings demo when it was only at 20% at the 15min mark.

This has been talked about on the Sony site forum as well.

That's really strange. I've never encountered any slow down. The only time was at the beginning when I was updating, and when I was downloading Genji. That was before I went out and changed my router. Every since then it's been great. I don't know what it might be. Maybe you are downloading at peak time. You have to wonder, since there is so little you can download from the store, Everyone must be downloading the same things. I'm totally not a tech guy so I wouldn't even know if that would make a difference.

[Anonymous7000]

Futureshop in Barrie, ON has two 20GB systems left as of 20 minutes ago.

[Emancipated]

Can someone outline the major differences between the 20 and 60GB versions? I recently bought a Premium Xbox360 for myself and partly because I wanted wireless control. I now have an opportunity to get a PS3 for retail but I'm not at all knowledgable about the difference with this system.

Also I read somehwere on this site that F1 Champion Edition is available for download and the Japanese version will be released before Christmas. Does the NTSC PS3 play Japanese titles without modding?

EDIT: One last thing. Will I require an accessory adapter to get it to work on my Dell 2407 like I did with my Xbox? Namely, I do not want to hook it up through component. I prefer VGA or DVI.

Thanks

[rdtx2002]

Can someone outline the major differences between the 20 and 60GB versions? I recently bought a Premium Xbox360 for myself and partly because I wanted wireless control. I now have an opportunity to get a PS3 for retail but I'm not at all knowledgable about the difference with this system.

the 20GB lacks the Wifi, the card reader and of course the 40GBs ;) RUmor has that PSP only will support the 60GB at the moment due to Wifi.

Also I read somehwere on this site that F1 Champion Edition is available for download and the Japanese version will be released before Christmas. Does the NTSC PS3 play Japanese titles without modding?

No, I beileve it's Japan only. i'm not sure if it's F! Champion Edition, but there is Gran Turismo HD available to download for Japanese users starting Boxing day, whether someone will try to hack it for the American owners to play it, we shall see.


EDIT: One last thing. Will I require an accessory adapter to get it to work on my Dell 2407 like I did with my Xbox? Namely, I do not want to hook it up through component. I prefer VGA or DVI.

Thanks

there are 5 ways to hook up the PS3:

1. Composite, SVideo, Component to TV
2. HDMI to TV/Monitor
3. Compsite, SVideo, Component, HDMI with receiver or pre/processor
4. HDMI 1.3
5. HDMI/DVI cable (should be what you are looking for)

TigerDirect has 6.5ft HDMI -> DVI cables for 25 dollars
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1435556

[Emancipated]

the 20GB lacks the Wifi, the card reader and of course the 40GBs ;) RUmor has that PSP only will support the 60GB at the moment due to Wifi.



No, I beileve it's Japan only. i'm not sure if it's F! Champion Edition, but there is Gran Turismo HD available to download for Japanese users starting Boxing day, whether someone will try to hack it for the American owners to play it, we shall see.




there are 5 ways to hook up the PS3:

1. Composite, SVideo, Component to TV
2. HDMI to TV/Monitor
3. Compsite, SVideo, Component, HDMI with receiver or pre/processor
4. HDMI 1.3
5. HDMI/DVI cable (should be what you are looking for)

TigerDirect has 6.5ft HDMI -> DVI cables for 25 dollars
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1435556


Does Sony not offer an HDMI/DVI adapter? I'd like to get the system and playing ASAP.


Thanks for the info.

[rdtx2002]

Does Sony not offer an HDMI/DVI adapter? I'd like to get the system and playing ASAP.


Thanks for the info.

doesn't come 'out of the box', you need to buy one elsewhere.

[bembol]

If you need it now the Sony Store in Mississauga (where Costco is) has the HDMI-to-DVI...Monster Cable and Belkin, which is obviously cheaper...I think the 6' goes for $79.99 (not sure).

If not, monoprice.

[BaconMunch]

doesn't come 'out of the box', you need to buy one elsewhere.

I also read that when you do your initial set up you MUST do it with composite first, then after you can choose to use HDMI, not sure if the other users can confirm this. I heard that those that plugged HDMI cable out of the box booted up to nothing showing on the tv.

[nate1280]

I also read that when you do your initial set up you MUST do it with composite first, then after you can choose to use HDMI, not sure if the other users can confirm this. I heard that those that plugged HDMI cable out of the box booted up to nothing showing on the tv.

Mine is plugged in using HDMI right from the start, auto-detected supported resoultions and such and I was off to the races. Until I found out my BD drive is broke, it won't feed in discs :cry: (Everything else works fine, was playin demos and such) time to call sony...

[jamgyu]

If you need it now the Sony Store in Mississauga (where Costco is) has the HDMI-to-DVI...Monster Cable and Belkin, which is obviously cheaper...I think the 6' goes for $79.99 (not sure).

If not, monoprice.



i bought a 10ft cable from canadacomputers for $40 + tax

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i bought a 10ft cable from canadacomputers for $40 + tax

Link?

I might as well get one while it's still available so I'll have stuff to play over the cHristmas Holidays.

[InFeXiOn]

www.monoprice.com

I got my cable from there for like $25 shipped and it's much higher quality than anything sold in stores for $100+. Monoprice has incredible deals on cables, but you just have to wait a few extra days for it to come unless you pay for faster shipping of course.

[Yesdear]

www.monoprice.com

I got my cable from there for like $25 shipped and it's much higher quality than anything sold in stores for $100+. Monoprice has incredible deals on cables, but you just have to wait a few extra days for it to come unless you pay for faster shipping of course.

Great site, thanks. I am going to order a HDMI switch and a couple more HDMI cables. I just wish they had stock.

[Skidz]

I also read that when you do your initial set up you MUST do it with composite first, then after you can choose to use HDMI, not sure if the other users can confirm this. I heard that those that plugged HDMI cable out of the box booted up to nothing showing on the tv.

If you use hdmi, hold down the power button for a few seconds it will beep and you wont need to start with the composite cable :cheesygri

[Yesdear]

If you use hdmi, hold down the power button for a few seconds it will beep and you wont need to start with the composite cable :cheesygri

I only have HDMI and I didn't do anything but plug it in and turn it on.

[Marlek]

Yeah, you can start with hdmi with no problems. The video reset option (hold the power for 5s after power up) is only for situations when the currently configured resolution is set to something your tv doesn't support.

For example, I went over to my buddies place who had a brand new 1080p set. So I changed the max resolution to 1080p, but when I got home to my lcd (720p max) I got nothing but a blank screen. Using the above method I was able to reset and autodetect the supported resolutions.

[Spongebobnopants]

Costco's got a great home system cable kit. It's got every kind of connection you need from components to HDMI. I believe there are 8 types of cables in all. You might not have any use for all of them now, but for about $110 taxes included, it's an amazing buy. I just hooked my PS3 up and it looks amazing!

[rfdghost]

is it worth it to buy an extended warranty for my ps3? and are there any problems with the system so far?

[acidbaby]

the sony systems have been horrible for thier lasers in the past

remember my lauchday psx after a few months the machine had to be fliped over to play and laser was gone after a year

ps2 laser went after a year on lauchday unit also had a unit from 2 years ago go in 6 months and also had a slimline ps2 laser cook in under a year.

and sony reps keep saying to me theres no problem
lol. after resheching found i had 3 of the worst ver ps2. ver 1-3, v12 and v9. all have laser issues but sony denies this.

from what ive seen so far the ps3 drive is able to play scrached discs very well but longevity is up in the air.

[joshmxpx]

is it worth it to buy an extended warranty for my ps3? and are there any problems with the system so far?

Its always a good idea to buy an extended warranty with a first gen console these days, even a year after they come out (like the 360 :evil: ). The small amount compared to the price you paid for the system is worth the extra piece of mind, especially if something goes wrong outside of the warranty window.

[Beradon]

Its always a good idea to buy an extended warranty with a first gen console these days, even a year after they come out (like the 360 :evil: ). The small amount compared to the price you paid for the system is worth the extra piece of mind, especially if something goes wrong outside of the warranty window.Just to add: Instead of paying for the extra warranty, just use a credit card that will double the 1 year warranty. Owners should also looking into the hack that will allow them to play their games off the hd. Should be less wear and tear on the laser.

[Emancipated]

Just to add: Instead of paying for the extra warranty, just use a credit card that will double the 1 year warranty. Owners should also looking into the hack that will allow them to play their games off the hd. Should be less wear and tear on the laser.

Link to said hack? Will this be a detriment to the PS3 experience in any way like the online component?

[Beradon]

Link to said hack? Will this be a detriment to the PS3 experience in any way like the online component?Depends on how much complaing the game publishers will direct at Sony. Microsoft are just pure bungholes and will plug any and every hack.


EDIT: the link to the hack was mentioned several pages back. just search within this thread. It came out only a few days after the ps3 was released.

[bmaz]

Link to said hack? Will this be a detriment to the PS3 experience in any way like the online component?
The 'Hack' isn't complete all they have been able to do is dump the contents of the Game BD disc onto the hard drive.
They haven't made a loader yet.

[BigBadBoo]

Depends on how much complaing the game publishers will direct at Sony. Microsoft are just pure bungholes and will plug any and every hack.



So where do you work? I want to come and steal whatever product you work on, and then call you a bunghole when you try to stop me. Can I come live at your house and eat your food too?

If Sony/MS/Nintendo do not provide a good security mechanism and do not stop piracy on their respective consoles, then publishers and developers will try to steer clear of that console. I hate it when people think its ok to steal video games, music, and movies, just because its entertainment.

[Beradon]

So where do you work? I want to come and steal whatever product you work on, and then call you a bunghole when you try to stop me. Can I come live at your house and eat your food too?1400 Pensylvania ave. If you can get in and take my stuff, then by all means, do so. I'm pretty sure you won't get pass my dogs.

If Sony/MS/Nintendo do not provide a good security mechanism and do not stop piracy on their respective consoles, then publishers and developers will try to steer clear of that console. I hate it when people think its ok to steal video games, music, and movies, just because its entertainment.Who said anything about stealing? What about playing backups to preserve the original disc? Will publishisers send me a new disc if they wear out from all the physical handling? What about playing off the HD if I own the disc? I don't want to wear out the console's laser reader and I enjoy faster load times off the HD. Why does MS insist on shutting down the legitimate features? I hate it when people jump to conclusions. If MS keeps their BS up, I will be more than happy to help spread these hacks on 360 consoles. :twisted:

[Truemana]

1400 Pensylvania ave. If you can get in and take my stuff, then by all means, do so. I'm pretty sure you won't get pass my dogs.

Who said anything about stealing? What about playing backups to preserve the original disc? Will publishisers send me a new disc if they wear out from all the physical handling? What about playing off the HD if I own the disc? I don't want to wear out the console's laser reader and I enjoy faster load times off the HD. Why does MS insist on shutting down the legitimate features? I hate it when people jump to conclusions. If MS keeps their BS up, I will be more than happy to help spread these hacks on 360 consoles. :twisted:

Damn. It must suck to have to go to those measures to make sure you don't where out the laser. Your argument makes no sense to Sony. If you gave them the options of allowing you to backup games on the HD to prevent wear on the laser or simply building a tougher product... I'm sure they would choose to put in a better quality laser diode.

I never understood their laser diode problems. MS and Nintendo haven't had any problems with them, why did the PSX and PS2 both have it?

[BigBadBoo]

1400 Pensylvania ave. If you can get in and take my stuff, then by all means, do so. I'm pretty sure you won't get pass my dogs.

Who said anything about stealing? What about playing backups to preserve the original disc? Will publishisers send me a new disc if they wear out from all the physical handling? What about playing off the HD if I own the disc? I don't want to wear out the console's laser reader and I enjoy faster load times off the HD. Why does MS insist on shutting down the legitimate features? I hate it when people jump to conclusions. If MS keeps their BS up, I will be more than happy to help spread these hacks on 360 consoles. :twisted:

Oh please, what weak argument. I am very sure majority of people, if given the chance, would rather not pay for a game. Yes the legitimate users get screwed, but how many legitimate users are out there? Its so easy to skip out on paying for entertainment because most people don't take it seriously. If they allowed playing off the HD, thats just too easy of a way out to pay for games. Most games don't even make that much money, so be prepared for publishers and developers only making games that will sell millions of copies (ie. sports titles, and rehashes)

And please dont start about games being expensive. Last gen games are dirt cheap, and you can have just as much fun.

[FooNdaR]

Here we go.

I was wondering how long it would take for this thread to break from it's main objective.

Bunch of kids..

[Beradon]

Your argument makes no sense to Sony. If you gave them the options of allowing you to backup games on the HD to prevent wear on the laser or simply building a tougher product... I'm sure they would choose to put in a better quality laser diode.Your knowledge of corporate economic greed fails you. Here's a lesson: if a company can buy a laser diode for $1/ch with a projected lifespan of 2 years or $2/ch with a lifespan of 5, which part would they settle on? The majority of high volume electronics is about cost savings and maximizing profit.


Oh please, what weak argument. I am very sure majority of people, if given the chance, would rather not pay for a game. Yes the legitimate users get screwed, but how many legitimate users are out there? Its so easy to skip out on paying for entertainment because most people don't take it seriously. If they allowed playing off the HD, thats just too easy of a way out to pay for games.There you go with these assumptions. How about the ones that have owned several library of games but would rather not deal with pulling and swapping discs out of the console every time they needed to switch games? I've been there and done that. Don't want to and don't feel the need to do that anymore.

Most games don't even make that much money, so be prepared for publishers and developers only making games that will sell millions of copies (ie. sports titles, and rehashes)

And please dont start about games being expensive. Last gen games are dirt cheap, and you can have just as much fun.*Yawn* you just don't have any more convincing arguments. Please stop. You lost this one long ago. ;)

[uddinf]

I just picked up a 60GB PS3 and there was no bluray movie packed inside the box...Is the system supposed to come with the blu ray movie (Talledega Nights)? or was that only for the launch consoles?

thanks

[nate1280]

I just picked up a 60GB PS3 and there was no bluray movie packed inside the box...Is the system supposed to come with the blu ray movie (Talledega Nights)? or was that only for the launch consoles?

thanks

that was only the first 400 or 500k units (launch), so any new shipments now won't have the movie.

[Mike71]

Is it possible to purchase extended warranty for the Playstation 3 directly from Sony like you can with Microsoft and the Xbox 360? I bought the unit from costco.ca but I would like to extend the warranty on it. Any ideas?

[Mike71]

Do you have mommy and daddy wiping your ass for you too? This wasn't an argument to begin with. The universe does not revolve around you. If you dont like it, dont buy it, simple.

Time to drop this stupid topic and answer my question!:D

[rfdghost]

Is it possible to purchase extended warranty for the Playstation 3 directly from Sony like you can with Microsoft and the Xbox 360? I bought the unit from costco.ca but I would like to extend the warranty on it. Any ideas?

1 word answer no. but if you paid with a credit card, isn't there an extended warranty from that?

[tonychau]

Here is a game video of PS2 games in PS3. What do u think about the PS3's backwards compatibility??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoCD9TwLrVs

[Emancipated]

Here is a game video of PS2 games in PS3. What do u think about the PS3's backwards compatibility??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoCD9TwLrVs

The loyalists will still defend Sony til the end. Personally, I'm glad I don't care all too much about backward compatibility since my PS2 library is slim to none. For those that do care and I suspect many do, this is another nail in their coffin. What can you say? Sony really does have an uphill battle against the Xbox360.

Microsoft some what stunned people by putting out a half decent machine and Sony fans, die hards or otherwise may have had much too high hopes for the PS3.

[bembol]

Not surprised.

[bembol]

1 word answer no. but if you paid with a credit card, isn't there an extended warranty from that?

Which means only 180 Days!

Try walking into Future Shop/Best Buy a week after Christmas and see if you can buy the Warranty? I know, it's right! LOL

This is the only time you won't get hassled.

[rdtx2002]

PS2 HDD Now Supported on PS3! - Dec 16, 2006 - 4:36 PM - by PS3News
To quote from IGN.com:
Quote:
December 15, 2006 - Sony Computer Entertainment today released a small update for the PlayStation 3 that allows PlayStation 2 games to store cache data on the hard disc drive, like Final Fantasy XI or the SOCOM map pack. Rather than a regular system update that would up your firmware version number, the update is a standalone package available on the PlayStation Store.

The update runs nearly 7MB in size and basically looks to create a virtual space for PS2 hard drive support. PS2 games that can use, or in the case of Final Fantasy XI, require the hard drive will simply prompt you to save the data as per normal. On the PlayStation 3, this data chunk is listed under the Game Data Utility like any other cache information would be, though it's all stored in a single piece of data.

So for those of you who want to try out FFXI on the PlayStation 3, now's your chance.

[Yesdear]

I just picked up a 60GB PS3 and there was no bluray movie packed inside the box...Is the system supposed to come with the blu ray movie (Talledega Nights)? or was that only for the launch consoles?

thanks


Check the box. It will list the contents and there is also a sticker of the movie on the outside of the PS3 box.

[importpsycho]

is there 2nd gen PS3?
i'm seeing some people selling their PS3 and saying they have 2nd gen/version PS3... wtf is that?

[Waiwai]

Which means only 180 Days!

Try walking into Future Shop/Best Buy a week after Christmas and see if you can buy the Warranty? I know, it's right! LOL

This is the only time you won't get hassled.

The warranty on the PS3 is 1 year. So it would be an additional 1 year. Only 360 has a 3 month warranty.

[Truemana]

1 word answer no. but if you paid with a credit card, isn't there an extended warranty from that?

Yeah, my understanding is MOST Visa cards double the manufacturer's warranty up to 1 year. I just called Visa and found out my Visa Classic II (Student) does this. I'm assuming so does the regular Classic II and I've read on this forum that the Classic Gold does the same thing. Best thing to do is call Visa/your bank and ask. They will tell you.

Honestly, I think that's one of the best unknown, free services offered by credit cards. I bought a Kona bike in May, and I just found out it now has a 2 year warranty. Sweet.

[Tyrant]

is there 2nd gen PS3?
i'm seeing some people selling their PS3 and saying they have 2nd gen/version PS3... wtf is that?

No. It's probably just their way of saying "it doesn't come with the free Blu-Ray movie".

[Mike71]

Anyone know where I can order or buy th e BD remote for the PS3? I can't seem to find it anywhere in Canada or the US. I need one cause my harmony won't control the PS3 cause it is bluetooth.

[bmaz]

Anyone know where I can order or buy th e BD remote for the PS3? I can't seem to find it anywhere in Canada or the US. I need one cause my harmony won't control the PS3 cause it is bluetooth.
I don't think it's released in NA yet, not sure about Japan.

[kevin01]

Anyone know where I can order or buy th e BD remote for the PS3? I can't seem to find it anywhere in Canada or the US. I need one cause my harmony won't control the PS3 cause it is bluetooth.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/SONY-PLAYSTATION-3-PS3-BD-REMOTE-CONTROL-UPS-EXPRESS_W0QQitemZ320063671336QQihZ011QQcategoryZ12 2516QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem


Yeah i know its from hong kong but:

Feedback Score: 1707
Positive Feedback: 99.7%
Members who left a positive: 1713
Members who left a negative: 6
All positive feedback received: 1901

lol and the last time i bought from hong kong, the item came from the US.

[rfdghost]

http://cgi.ebay.ca/SONY-PLAYSTATION-3-PS3-BD-REMOTE-CONTROL-UPS-EXPRESS_W0QQitemZ320063671336QQihZ011QQcategoryZ12 2516QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem


Yeah i know its from hong kong but:

Feedback Score: 1707
Positive Feedback: 99.7%
Members who left a positive: 1713
Members who left a negative: 6
All positive feedback received: 1901

lol and the last time i bought from hong kong, the item came from the US.

at that price you're better off waiting for it to come here.

[rfdghost]

http://www.kotaku.com/assets/resources/2006/12/wiirocksps3.jpg

[twboy1999]

thats alot of 20gb ps3

[Truemana]

thats alot of 20gb ps3

I guess there's just that many extra laying around to do that...

[Morten]

Anyone know where I can order or buy th e BD remote for the PS3? I can't seem to find it anywhere in Canada or the US. I need one cause my harmony won't control the PS3 cause it is bluetooth.


They have been released in the States ($24.99 US) from reading other forums. People were able to get them in store at Gamestop. Should be here soon, I hope.

[kevin01]

They have been released in the States ($24.99 US) from reading other forums. People were able to get them in store at Gamestop. Should be here soon, I hope.

anywhere to buy online?

[play_b3yond]

is there 2nd gen PS3?
i'm seeing some people selling their PS3 and saying they have 2nd gen/version PS3... wtf is that?

ps1 and ps2 had a slim versions, wouldn't be surprised if ps3 has one in 3 years.

[Anessa]

Play-Asia sells them...

[kevin01]

ps1 and ps2 had a slim versions, wouldn't be surprised if ps3 has one in 3 years.

I dont think theyll be able to make the ps3 slim. But you never know...

[jerryhussain]

http://i11.tinypic.com/4i6lvyu.jpg

http://i11.tinypic.com/2el8703.jpg

[kevin01]

isnt the download only in japan?

[Waiwai]

isnt the download only in japan?

Nope, announced by SCEA.

http://www.gaming-age.com/news/2006/12/22-50

Things are slowly but surely moving along.

[Jordan Lee]

WOW, I cant wait. Good thing they released it in North America.

[Anessa]

Upconverting movies and older games would have been nice...

[Jaytee]

GT:HD is available for download now.

[JayPatel]

Upconverting movies and older games would have been nice...

Im sure its coming.....in a future fw update

[Morten]

GT:HD is available for download now.

It is so slow at downloading, typical of other games downloaded from their site. Something they should really address in the future.

[kingsley]

http://i11.tinypic.com/2el8703.jpg

man...I have a Wii but this picture makes me want to get a PS3

[Morten]

man...I have a Wii but this picture makes me want to get a PS3

Waiting to finish downloading game, we will see if the graphics look that good. I hope so.

[jhardy]

It is so slow at downloading, typical of other games downloaded from their site. Something they should really address in the future.

They need a download resume feature. I'm on my 4th download attempt. The last one crashed at 96%. I can't believe they didn't anticipate the demand for this demo.

[Waiwai]

Waiting to finish downloading game, we will see if the graphics look that good. I hope so.

It does look really nice. The problem is the track isn't upgraded (the grass is pretty bad, spectators aren't very good either). The lighting is pretty crazy. Seems like you only get one track, but being able to have a ranking worldwide (I believe) is pretty cool. You can also see the replays of the top 5.

I don't know why it's taking some people so long to download. I think it took about 20 minutes for mine to download/install which I think is acceptable all things considered.

[Morten]

Finished downloading. I think it looks pretty darn good in full 1080p.

[bembol]

I downloaded 1.32 and now NBA 2K7 DOWNCONVERTS to 720p

I want my 1080p back! What do I do?

Thanks!

[uddinf]

I can't even connect to the store...I guess I'll wait until tomorrow

[uddinf]

I downloaded 1.32 and now NBA 2K7 DOWNCONVERTS to 720p

I want my 1080p back! What do I do?

Thanks!

Did you mean NBA '07? I haven't been able to connect to the store but I don't think NBA2K7 was released as a demo and if it was it isn't 1080p. NBA '07 is supposed to be capable of 1080p.

[bembol]

What?

Nothing to do with Store/Downloading...the game itself, 2K Sports' NBA 2K7

I don't wan to do any System Restore/Format until I have too! Any ideas what's going on with the System Update/Firmware?

[uddinf]

What?

Nothing to do with Store/Downloading...the game itself, 2K Sports' NBA 2K7

I don't wan to do any System Restore/Format until I have too! Any ideas what's going on with the System Update/Firmware?

ohh ok i thought you were referring to something else. I dont know why its downscaling to 720p. Did you try selecting the 1080p resolution in your display settings? maybe the setting reset to default after the update.

[kingsley]

Finished downloading. I think it looks pretty darn good in full 1080p.

does it look like the pictures?

[Morten]

The attention to detail is amazing, yes the pictures are acurate. 1080p and some good programing = amazing looking.

Could use a couple of more tracks.....

[kevin01]

I cant sign in either... will we be allowed to download tomorrow?

[Majinvegeta]

wow this thread still lives eh? :)

Yep, GT HD is a very awesome game. The cars are very realistic, and people thought Xbox360's Gears was the best in terms of gfx? pffft, the cars are so realistic, you could probably fool someone!

And this is obviously just a demo, PD arent going to be releasing this game for quite a while, probably 2008 sometime. So im sure it will look even better by then.

[bembol]

^ Downloaded it last night...unbelievable @ 1080p!

[Majinvegeta]

^ Downloaded it last night...unbelievable @ 1080p!

Yea, it reassures me that what was shown at E3 for FF13 will be in game as they suggested (parts of it that is). So im glad.

Theres lots of great upcomming titles man, and they all look great. Next year is going to be GREAT for Sony.

[Grand Master B]

What?

Nothing to do with Store/Downloading...the game itself, 2K Sports' NBA 2K7

I don't wan to do any System Restore/Format until I have too! Any ideas what's going on with the System Update/Firmware?


So it is true. Games are scaled down?

[uddinf]

So it is true. Games are scaled down?

no, that is a different issue. The poster you quoted has a 1080p television and can't get his 1080p game to play at the proper resolution.

The scaling down issue is different from that issue but is true. If a tv supports only 480i/p and 1080i then 720p games will be downscaled.

[Grand Master B]

no, that is a different issue. The poster you quoted has a 1080p television and can't get his 1080p game to play at the proper resolution.

The scaling down issue is different from that issue but is true. If a tv supports only 480i/p and 1080i then 720p games will be downscaled.


Thanks. We're thinking about picking one up (60GB) sometime in the New Year!


Too bad bembol is having this problem. This is what I like about XBOX 360, you select your resolution and it takes care of it, no worries!

[bembol]

^ True. One thing I missed about my 360.

I have to remind myself BD first (no issues, *knock-on-wood*), Gaming second.

[rdtx2002]

Thanks. We're thinking about picking one up (60GB) sometime in the New Year!


Too bad bembol is having this problem. This is what I like about XBOX 360, you select your resolution and it takes care of it, no worries!

no, that is a different issue. The poster you quoted has a 1080p television and can't get his 1080p game to play at the proper resolution.

The scaling down issue is different from that issue but is true. If a tv supports only 480i/p and 1080i then 720p games will be downscaled.


err... the latest Firmware fixed the 720p issue...

[bembol]

err... the latest Firmware fixed the 720p issue...

But now it also affected 1080p!

[Tyrant]

err... the latest Firmware fixed the 720p issue...

Really? Because if so, I find it rather odd that it wouldn't be mentioned in their changelog:


The main function which is renewed with system software version 1.32

* Network performance of system software was strengthened.


There's also a topic on the Playstation forums stating that the issue wasn't fixed.

[joshmxpx]

wow this thread still lives eh? :)

Yep, GT HD is a very awesome game. The cars are very realistic, and people thought Xbox360's Gears was the best in terms of gfx? pffft, the cars are so realistic, you could probably fool someone!

And this is obviously just a demo, PD arent going to be releasing this game for quite a while, probably 2008 sometime. So im sure it will look even better by then.

It's actually not a demo, they cancelled the game. They just let people download what they made so far. They are working on GT5 now, so this is all you'll get till then.

[HUH]

just wondering, does the PS3 do 1080i?

[rfdghost]

just wondering, does the PS3 do 1080i?

yes it does

btw, has anyone else had their ps3 freeze yet?

[goldenegg]

But now it also affected 1080p!

1080P works fine with the latest firmware. Games are properly displayed at either 720P or 1080P and Blu-Ray is output at 1080P. Not sure where you've heard otherwise.

[rdtx2002]

Really? Because if so, I find it rather odd that it wouldn't be mentioned in their changelog:



There's also a topic on the Playstation forums stating that the issue wasn't fixed.

1.31 is was 'fixed'

[rdtx2002]

Some Japan news.

Sony has released Gran Turismo HD Concept for PS3 in US on December 24, a playable demo of the next generation Gran Turismo, which is available in the PlayStation Store for free.

- Sony has released a multiplayer patch for Resistance: Fall of Man for PS3, which improved the game balance, voice chat capabilities and corrected a number of minor flaws.

Bandai Namco and Koei jointly announced a new PlayStation 3 strategic action game called Gundam Musou, this game combines popular Gundam characters with Sangoku Musou (Dynasty Warriors) style action and strategic gameplay elements in massive battlefields. The game will be released in 2007.

PlayStation 3
# Armored Core 4 (From Software): 9, 7, 7, 8 - (31/40)

Here are over 40 new high-res images of Tecmo's Ninja Gaiden Sigma for PlayStation 3, in the game Rachel is a new second playable character.

http://www.the-magicbox.com/0612/ninjaga27.jpg

- Sega announced the PS3 version of Virtua Tennis 3 will be released in Japan on March 8, 2007, for 7329 yen.

[rdtx2002]

Here are the latest Japanese console hardware sales for the week of Dec 11 - 17:
Platform Sales Total
DS Lite- 319,708 6,761,521
Wii- 108,237 544,034
PlayStation 3- 70,942 308,909
PSP- 48,962 1,641,910
PlayStation 2- 37,730 1,366,557
Xbox 360- 17,168 163,014
GBA SP- 1,867 219,003
GB Micro- 1,491 139,765
GameCube- 1,152 73,781
Nintendo DS- 158 957,672
GBA- 42 3,351
Xbox- 3 1,725

[bembol]

Just finished watching the Trailer @ GameSpot...sweet!

I thought Tecmo was Exclusive to Microsoft/XBOX 360?


Either way, I'm very happy to see my All-Time Favorite makes it's way to Sony PlaySatation 3...can't wait!

[rdtx2002]

Ninja Gaiden was only exclusive to Xbox

[Tyrant]

1.31 is was 'fixed'

No. Here's the 1.31 changelog:


* Settings
o You can now register the BD remote control in [Register Bluetooth Device] under [Accessory Settings].
o [BD/DVD Video Output Format (HDMI)] has been added as an option under [BD/DVD Settings].
o [Backup Utility] has been added as a feature under [System Settings].
o You can now select the hard disk format method in [Format Utility] and [Restore PS3 System] under [System Settings].
o The method of selecting output resolution has been changed in [Video Output Settings] under [Display Settings].
* Game
o New for 1.31: You can now play PlayStation 2 format software titles that must be installed on the hard disk.
* Other
o The compatibility of USB devices with PlayStation 2 format software titles has changed. For details on USB devices that can be used with system software version 1.30.
o New for 1.31: Playability status with the PS3 system has changed for some PlayStation and PlayStation 2 format titles. To check on the latest status, visit the search site for compatible titles.


Before you say it, it wasn't fixed in 1.30 either. At least with regards to televisions that don't support 720p.

[rdtx2002]

No. Here's the 1.31 changelog:



Before you say it, it wasn't fixed in 1.30 either. At least with regards to televisions that don't support 720p.

what makes you think i was going to say 1.30?.. you a psychic?

iirc.. it was in the 1.31 Japanese.. so...........

does not matter anyways

[goldenegg]

what makes you think i was going to say 1.30?.. you a psychic?

iirc.. it was in the 1.31 Japanese.. so...........

does not matter anyways

Tyrant is correct. People don't seem to understand what the 720P problem really is.

There were two resolution problems that affect the PS3 out-of-box.

1) The PS3 considered 720P > 1080i. If you told the PS3 your TV supports 480P, 720P and 1080i it would automatically use 720P for games and the system menu. Because of this, users with TVs with a maximum resolution of 1080i couldn't take full advantage of the higher resolution.

2) The PS3 has no hardware scaler to upconvert 720P -> 1080 (i or P). Most launch titles are 720P. This means if your TV only supports 480P and 1080i, games would be rendered at 480P.

Problem #1 has been fixed with the firmware updates, having the PS3 choose 1080i over 720P. Problem #2 hasn't been addressed.

[rdtx2002]

hmm.. interesting...

over on ps3news, some people reported that issue #2 was kinda fixed.

[joshmxpx]

Anybody see this? Doesn't bode well for the backwards combatibility issues that already exist (no sound in some games, etc.)

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/12/13/ps2-graphics-on-ps3-look-like-crap/

Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoCD9TwLrVs

[rdtx2002]

Anybody see this? Doesn't bode well for the backwards combatibility issues that already exist (no sound in some games, etc.)

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/12/13/ps2-graphics-on-ps3-look-like-crap/

Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoCD9TwLrVs

this had been posted... many many many many times.

[rdtx2002]

Japan Console sales for the week of Dec 18-24

DS - 485,584 units - 7,247,105 YTD :-0
Wii - 279,777 units - 823,311 units YTD
PS3 - 76,882 units - 385,791 units YTD
Xbox360 - 17,213 units - 180,227 units YTD :confused:
PSP - 138,588 units - 1,780,498 units YTD
PS2 - 46,209 units - 1,412,766 units YTD

[rdtx2002]

Tony Blair imports a PS3

http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/politics/prime-minister-tony-blairs-ps3-scandal-224812.php

kinda ironic seeing that Sony shut down Lik-Sang due to illegal importing to Europe ;)

but being the Prime Minister has it's perks.

[bembol]

Anyone here in the GTA found the PS3/Blu-ray Remote?

http://www.kotaku.com/assets/resources/2006/12/blurayremote.jpg

[kevin01]

Anyone here in the GTA found the PS3/Blu-ray Remote?

http://www.kotaku.com/assets/resources/2006/12/blurayremote.jpg

i dont think they released it in canada yet. The only place i can find it is on ebay, and i would rather wait then buy it for those prices.

[Emancipated]

Anyone here discovering their PS3 is as scratch prone as an iPod? I just opened it up and carefully set it ontop of my desk but there were some dust specs which I promptly used a micro fibre cloth to clean with and voila -- scratches. Hairline scratches already and barely 10 minutes old.


On another note; the registration is tediously long and bothersome. I signed less forms becoming a naturalized citizen than this crap. The heat being output from this rivals the mini heater I have under my desk.

One last thing. How do I extend the warranty? It was bought at T'RUS.

[sfu_lifer]

Anyone here discovering their PS3 is as scratch prone as an iPod? I just opened it up and carefully set it ontop of my desk but there were some dust specs which I promptly used a micro fibre cloth to clean with and voila -- scratches. Hairline scratches already and barely 10 minutes old.


On another note; the registration is tediously long and bothersome. I signed less forms becoming a naturalized citizen than this crap. The heat being output from this rivals the mini heater I have under my desk.

One last thing. How do I extend the warranty? It was bought at T'RUS.
Well the PSU is rated at 300+W peak and the Cell is not exactly known for power conservation. Just be thankful its not as loud as the 360 ;)
The PSP is the same, so scratch prone. Nice and sleek though.

[FooNdaR]

Anyone here discovering their PS3 is as scratch prone as an iPod? I just opened it up and carefully set it ontop of my desk but there were some dust specs which I promptly used a micro fibre cloth to clean with and voila -- scratches. Hairline scratches already and barely 10 minutes old.


On another note; the registration is tediously long and bothersome. I signed less forms becoming a naturalized citizen than this crap. The heat being output from this rivals the mini heater I have under my desk.

One last thing. How do I extend the warranty? It was bought at T'RUS.

Wow, you got problems.
You should take it back.

[rdtx2002]

Anyone here discovering their PS3 is as scratch prone as an iPod? I just opened it up and carefully set it ontop of my desk but there were some dust specs which I promptly used a micro fibre cloth to clean with and voila -- scratches. Hairline scratches already and barely 10 minutes old.


On another note; the registration is tediously long and bothersome. I signed less forms becoming a naturalized citizen than this crap. The heat being output from this rivals the mini heater I have under my desk.

One last thing. How do I extend the warranty? It was bought at T'RUS.

if you broke the warranty sticker.. it's over

[Emancipated]

if you broke the warranty sticker.. it's over

I played Resistance for all of 10 minutes and haven't touched it since. Need to wait for some quality games to be released now.

What games are you playing on it right now?

[rdtx2002]

Gt:hd

[kevin01]

MY PS3 IS MELTING lol. The side panel melted in a bit, but it was my fault. I had stood it up, on a shelf with a pot light right over it. Someone in the house left the light on when we went somewhere, and when i came back it was the middle part was melting in. Should i get a new one or just keep it? It doesnt make a difference when i play.

[jeffyjaixx]

Is there a master reset button on the PS3?

Because I put the display to Components and then switched to HDMI but forgot to put the settings @ HDMI. Now there's no screen.

How do I switch it without using the Components.

[marcopolo85]

I found a really cool mod that was done for a ps3 controller which i wanna try to do with mine.
http://myacc.net/~euphoriclab/pix/ps3/cont1.JPG
http://myacc.net/~euphoriclab/pix/ps3/cont3.JPG
http://myacc.net/~euphoriclab/pix/ps3/cont5.JPG


I just wanted to know if there is a good canadian online store i can buy these led's from. I found a couple of american sites like www.uniqueleds.com but they are pretty pricey with shipping.

[marcopolo85]

Is there a master reset button on the PS3?

Because I put the display to Components and then switched to HDMI but forgot to put the settings @ HDMI. Now there's no screen.

How do I switch it without using the Components.

When the ps3 is off hold the power button on the ps3 for 5 seconds till you hear a beep and it will auto configure the settings for the display.

[ATLien69]

Is there a list somewhere online that shows all the currently available ps3 demos???

[Emancipated]

^ the Sony Store only shows about 7 or 8. What the crap? Pathetic.

BTW, has anyone tried the F1 demo? I thought it would be much more immersive. I think I got burned by going on the Youtube videos to make my decision. The F1 game is the killer app for me but the demo leaves a lot to be desired. The mods F1 mods for rFactor play much better.

On a related note, my car randomly feels sluggish after a while. The RPM would hover around 12k and be stuck in a higher gear even though I should be in 2nd or 1st. Weird bug may be.

[Tyrant]

Is there a master reset button on the PS3?

Because I put the display to Components and then switched to HDMI but forgot to put the settings @ HDMI. Now there's no screen.

How do I switch it without using the Components.


I believe you can reset the current video output by holding down the power button for a few seconds until you hear two beeps.

[rdtx2002]

P L A Y S T A T I O N 3

- Sony published a new TVCM video for PlayStation 3, which contains a brief footage of Final Fantasy XIII.

* PlayStation 3 TVCM Video (ASX) (http://www.jp.playstation.com/movie/cm/asx/cm_ps3_jidai.asx)

- Business analyst firm Research & Markets from Ireland said that they forecast PlayStation 3 will capture the largest market share with 75 million units sold worldwide by 2010, but they don't expect PS3 to dominate the market the same way PS2 did, due to late launch in Europe and head start of Xbox 360.

[Emancipated]

What qualifies a product as having a dominant foothold? 75mil is fantastic, any way you slice it. Will the Xbox360 still be in circulation in 2010? I would imagine a new system will be prepped and ready to be launched by then from Microsoft, if not already penetrated already.

I'm hedging my bets on X360 be the system to beat especially if the rumours of PS3 exclusives coming over.

On a unrelated note. I ordered F1 Champion Edition last night from Play-Asia; does anyone know how long regular parcel (5-10 days) will take to get herefrom Hong Kong? I've been wearing out the sixaxis with the demo. Makes me miss the rumble so much.

[aturk99]

If i bought the ps3 and had it on regular components and the same day switched it for the high definition components. Is it going to be showing me the high def or do i have to re set it like the other users mentioned

[rdtx2002]

I'm hedging my bets on X360 be the system to beat especially if the rumours of PS3 exclusives coming over.

well... rumours are just that.... Sony has not lost many exclusives since GTA.

On a unrelated note. I ordered F1 Champion Edition last night from Play-Asia; does anyone know how long regular parcel (5-10 days) will take to get herefrom Hong Kong? I've been wearing out the sixaxis with the demo. Makes me miss the rumble so much.

2 weeks

[FooNdaR]

If i bought the ps3 and had it on regular components and the same day switched it for the high definition components. Is it going to be showing me the high def or do i have to re set it like the other users mentioned

Why not just try it?
Man, this site has become the lazy man's answer guide.

[bmaz]

Why not just try it?
Man, this site has become the lazy man's answer guide.
QFT.

[joshmxpx]

well... rumours are just that.... Sony has not lost many exclusives since GTA.

Virtua Fighter 5, and Assassin's Creed was supposed to be an exclusive.

And although Kojima keeps denying we'll just have to wait and see about MG.

[jeffyjaixx]

Can the NBA 2k7 game really support 1080p?

I have a Acer 32" 3220A LCD TV and I was able to set the video output to 1080p in the display settings with a HDMI cable.

When I tried to play NBA 2k7, the TV tells me that it switched back to 720P.

Does it make sense that only the menu screen can do 1080p while the game is supposed to be able to do 1080p but wouldn't?

[bmaz]

Can the NBA 2k7 game really support 1080p?

I have a Acer 32" 3220A LCD TV and I was able to set the video output to 1080p in the display settings with a HDMI cable.

When I tried to play NBA 2k7, the TV tells me that it switched back to 720P.

Does it make sense that only the menu screen can do 1080p while the game is supposed to be able to do 1080p but wouldn't?
Geez, your Acer does not support 1080P.

[jeffyjaixx]

My system says otherwise...

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/2496/1080pkm9.jpg

[bmaz]

My system says otherwise...

Acer 3220A - Resolution - 1366 x 768 (http://global.acer.com/products/lcd_tv/spec_at3220a.htm)

[jeffyjaixx]

Acer 3220A - Resolution - 1366 x 768 (http://global.acer.com/products/lcd_tv/spec_at3220a.htm)

Yes, I know it does not support 1080p, but someone in the Acer thread said it could with a HDMI cable and so I tried it out and it does work for the menu but just not in the NBA 2K7 game.

Is it possible that the TV can only support the menu and not the game? Or is this some glitch?

[awestruck]

Yes, I know it does not support 1080p, but someone in the Acer thread said it could with a HDMI cable and so I tried it out and it does work for the menu but just not in the NBA 2K7 game.

Is it possible that the TV can only support the menu and not the game? Or is this some glitch?

It's because NBA 2K7 is not a 1080p game even if it says on the box. It's a misprint. It's really a 720p game and there's no scaler in the PS3 (unlike the 360) to upscale it and make it run at 1080p. Your TV has to have 1920x1080 resolution to do true 1080p. I don't know why you are getting 1080p with the HDMI cable. Even if you are, it's not a true 1080p signal your TV is outputting. Play Ridge Racer 7, which is a 1080p game and you won't see your TV go to 720p when you load the game.

[jeffyjaixx]

It's because NBA 2K7 is not a 1080p game even if it says on the box. It's a misprint. It's really a 720p game and there's no scaler in the PS3 (unlike the 360) to upscale it and make it run at 1080p. Your TV has to have 1920x1080 resolution to do true 1080p. I don't know why you are getting 1080p with the HDMI cable. Even if you are, it's not a true 1080p signal your TV is outputting. Play Ridge Racer 7, which is a 1080p game and you won't see your TV go to 720p when you load the game.

Okay,

Thanks, do you think I will see a big difference between the true 1080p and the one my tv is outputting atm?

[awestruck]

Okay,

Thanks, do you think I will see a big difference between the true 1080p and the one my tv is outputting atm?


I don't know. If you see one, then there is. If you don't, then there isn't.

[jhardy]

Anyone know what's happening with the remote control? As in for BDs.

[Yesdear]

Not sure if it was a pricing error or not but I picked up the PS3 version of Tiger Woods 07 in Walmart today for $44.99.

[jhardy]

I saw that too. The question is, was it worth the $45?

[jhardy]

Did anyone get the movie coupons? They're supposed to have been bundled with the PS3.
http://www.blu-raymovierebate.com/

[Yesdear]

I saw that too. The question is, was it worth the $45?


Have not had the chance yet to try it out. I liked the demo on the 360 though.

[rfdghost]

My system says otherwise...

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/2496/1080pkm9.jpg

your tv just scaled the 1080p signal down to the tv's native resoultion. it is'nt running at 1080p, just using the signal.

[jeffyjaixx]

your tv just scaled the 1080p signal down to the tv's native resoultion. it is'nt running at 1080p, just using the signal.

Oh, I see.

Thanks.

Btw, does anyone know what kind of video formats the PS3 supports? Because I just put some wmv's in my USB drive and tried to upload to PS3 but it says file corrupt. So I was just wondering, what kind of video formats does it support atm?

[JayPatel]

Oh, I see.

Thanks.

Btw, does anyone know what kind of video formats the PS3 supports? Because I just put some wmv's in my USB drive and tried to upload to PS3 but it says file corrupt. So I was just wondering, what kind of video formats does it support atm?

Only MPEG-4 Based video natively...however if you install Linux you can pretty much get any format to play from what Ive been hearing

[numb555]

Motorstorm Demo ...


http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/748/748488/vids_1.html (http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/748/748488/vids_1.html)

I've heard it has 16 player multiplayer in the demo, if this is true (anyone can confirm?) ... I'm picking up 2 PS3 this weekend. Man this game looks amazing. *drool*

[GunnerX]

Motorstorm Demo ...


http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/748/748488/vids_1.html (http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/748/748488/vids_1.html)

I've heard it has 16 player multiplayer in the demo, if this is true (anyone can confirm?) ... I'm picking up 2 PS3 this weekend. Man this game looks amazing. *drool*

Ummm.. there's no multiplayer in the demo.. Nor was there multiplayer in the final version released in Japan. Multiplayer will be added to the NA release which is why it was delayed.

The demo only contains 1 track and choice of motorcycle or truck.

[numb555]

Ummm.. there's no multiplayer in the demo.. Nor was there multiplayer in the final version released in Japan. Multiplayer will be added to the NA release which is why it was delayed.

The demo only contains 1 track and choice of motorcycle or truck.

I see, I'll wait till this game is released before i purchase the system, from the picture below it looks like 15 players online. (can't wait)

Online Picture:
http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/753/753264/motorstorm-20070105044441927.jpg

[Emancipated]

I see, I'll wait till this game is released before i purchase the system, from the picture below it looks like 15 players online. (can't wait)

Online Picture:
http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/753/753264/motorstorm-20070105044441927.jpg

What the fark is going on with Japanese versions not having online? I was greatly disappointed to learn after the fact when I ordered F1 from Play-Asia. I hope they release a patch when the NA version is released. Sony Bastards.

[jeffyjaixx]

Ummm.. there's no multiplayer in the demo.. Nor was there multiplayer in the final version released in Japan. Multiplayer will be added to the NA release which is why it was delayed.

The demo only contains 1 track and choice of motorcycle or truck.

Yup, no MP in the demo.

Motor Storm does look amazing, but GT:HD is better :)

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/2873/silverhondaintegra4on3.jpg

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/7181/yellowmitsubishi2hi8.jpg

[numb555]

Yup, no MP in the demo.

Motor Storm does look amazing, but GT:HD is better :)

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/2873/silverhondaintegra4on3.jpg


Pre-Rendered??? I thought that was my car for a moment ... Only its not call Honda type R over in N.A.

[jeffyjaixx]

Pre-Rendered??? I thought that was my car for a moment ... Only its not call Honda type R over in N.A.

Not sure, is yours the Integra?

[numb555]

NO, its an RSX Type S. (DC12)

They don't use the Acura brand in Japan ... Only Honda.

[TechRock]

WOW at the GT:HD pics =O

[GunnerX]

WOW at the GT:HD pics =O

Yeah, wow indeed. Nice to see the super powerful PS3 render everything to look realistic just like the ground. Oh wait, everything is flat and bland. The road, the grass, the sand, all flat with zero bump mapping. Also glad to see that you can still bounce off the walls at full speed without any damage and keep going barely losing any speed. Definitely something you can do in real life. Best sim ever!

[numb555]

Yeah, wow indeed. Nice to see the super powerful PS3 render everything to look realistic just like the ground. Oh wait, everything is flat and bland. The road, the grass, the sand, all flat with zero bump mapping. Also glad to see that you can still bounce off the walls at full speed without any damage and keep going barely losing any speed. Definitely something you can do in real life. Best sim ever!

WOW! the PS3 pissed in some fanboi's coffee today ... I love it! :cheesygri

[GunnerX]

WOW! the PS3 pissed in some fanboi's coffee today ... I love it! :cheesygri

fanboi? The PS Online ID is GunnerX. Add it to your PS Online list. More like someone who paid $660 + tax for a system that has not delivered all the crap that was promised.

I got it as a Blu Ray player. At least it's good in that department. I guess I gotta lower my expectations to own a PS3. It's nice to know that SONY supporters have much lower standards.

[jeffyjaixx]

Yeah, wow indeed. Nice to see the super powerful PS3 render everything to look realistic just like the ground. Oh wait, everything is flat and bland. The road, the grass, the sand, all flat with zero bump mapping. Also glad to see that you can still bounce off the walls at full speed without any damage and keep going barely losing any speed. Definitely something you can do in real life. Best sim ever!

Don't know about you but I think GT:HD is one of the best looking car games I have ever seen.

Also, the car is moving at high speed, therefore since the camera is focused on the car, everything else is supposed to be a bit blurry.

Lastly, this is a demo, I think this fairs pretty good as one.

[GunnerX]

Don't know about you but I think GT:HD is one of the best looking car games I have ever seen.

Also, the car is moving at high speed, therefore since the camera is focused on the car, everything else is supposed to be a bit blurry.

Lastly, this is a demo, I think this fairs pretty good as one.

If you base it all on the pretty pictures then sure. But if you break the demo down into actual game play, you notice a lot of things missing. The sand doesn't look like sand and the grass is just green textured surface that can be clearly seen in those pictures. Everything is flat. This game could have also used rumble to add to the experience when going on different surfaces. Also, there will be no force feedback support to any games played on the PS3. There's only 1 track with no other cars on the road and also, when you drive through the tunnel the sound does not change.

[bembol]

Just played the best game IMO for the PS3...downloaded MotorStorm!

Sure I suck LOL but it was a blast...I love the use of Nirvana's "Breed" track during the game, it fits/pumps you up!

[SLee]

If you base it all on the pretty pictures then sure. But if you break the demo down into actual game play, you notice a lot of things missing. The sand doesn't look like sand and the grass is just green textured surface that can be clearly seen in those pictures. Everything is flat. This game could have also used rumble to add to the experience when going on different surfaces. Also, there will be no force feedback support to any games played on the PS3. There's only 1 track with no other cars on the road and also, when you drive through the tunnel the sound does not change.

It also already has FF support, and other PS3 games also support FF:

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=ridgeracer&message.id=427

[jeffyjaixx]

Some F1 Championship Edition Pics from someone else from another forum:

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/217/dsc01928rb4.jpg

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/3882/dsc01932dg4.jpg

Wow, the rain looks amazing!

Some more GT:HD pics from a guy called TAPOUT over at www.teamxbox.com who has a better camera/tv and can take better pics than me:

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/3839/dsc01873uh1.jpg

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/2818/dsc01887dr2.jpg

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/4034/dsc01899rz9.jpg

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/4152/dsc01900yc5.jpg

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/2103/dsc01901ct2.jpg

Enjoy!

[rollen]

wow, those shots look sick! i can't wait! i just got myself a ps3 recently. :cheesygri

[jeffyjaixx]

Hey,

Does anyone know how to reduce the jagginess of the PS2 games on PS3?

I tried Composite but it's still jaggy and not as good as the PS2.

Will it always be jaggy?

Anyone know how to fix it?

[Yesdear]

Hey,

Does anyone know how to reduce the jagginess of the PS2 games on PS3?

I tried Composite but it's still jaggy and not as good as the PS2.

Will it always be jaggy?

Anyone know how to fix it?

Known issue. Just not made public by Sony yet.

Read this:

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=ps3&thread.id=808212&view=by_date_ascending&page=1

[rfdghost]

just a quick post, i spoted the playstation 3 bluray remote control at futureshop today so they finally made it here to canada. not sure what price though as they didn't have a pricetag anywhere and it isn't on their site yet.

and for those people who want to know the location where i saw them, it's at the futureshop at north york centre. 4 of them hanging there.

[jeffyjaixx]

just a quick post, i spoted the playstation 3 bluray remote control at futureshop today so they finally made it here to canada. not sure what price though as they didn't have a pricetag anywhere and it isn't on their site yet.

and for those people who want to know the location where i saw them, it's at the futureshop at north york centre. 4 of them hanging there.

Oh, that would be cool.

Does anyone know how to check how many hours:minutes into the movie you are when using the PS3 as a blu-ray or DVD player?

[Waiwai]

Oh, that would be cool.

Does anyone know how to check how many hours:minutes into the movie you are when using the PS3 as a blu-ray or DVD player?

I think it's the triangle button.

[bmaz]

New Nyko PS3 Controller, and cooler (http://kotaku.com/gaming/clips/clip-wii-charge-stations-new-ps3-controller-228327.php), the controller is near near the end of the clip.

[jeffyjaixx]

Anyone that has downloaded GT:HD before... Version 1.1 is now out for download at the PS Store. Looks like they fixed some stuff :D.

------------------------------------------------------------------------ GRAN TURISMO HD CONCEPT------------------------------------------------------------------------ Our records indicate that you downloaded Gran Turismo HD Concept from the PLAYSTATION(R)Store. Version 1.1 is now available for download, which refines the gameplay experience in Time Trial mode and the accuracy of lap times within the online rankings. Since online ranking results recorded by version 1.1 players will be given priority, it is highly recommended that you download and install it if you are playing the earlier version. Please note that version 1.1 is compatible with existing game save data, allowing you to race your previously unlocked cars. We apologize for the inconvenience this has caused and hope you enjoy Gran Turismo HD Concept. Sincerely, The PlayStation Underground

[bembol]

just a quick post, i spoted the playstation 3 bluray remote control at futureshop today so they finally made it here to canada. not sure what price though as they didn't have a pricetag anywhere and it isn't on their site yet.

and for those people who want to know the location where i saw them, it's at the futureshop at north york centre. 4 of them hanging there.

EB Games said early February and Best Buy had no clue. LOL

Found this out on DigitalHome earlier tonight, I'll see if Brampton has it tomorrow.

[bembol]

Got it!

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c251/LouDiamonds/HPIM0806.jpg

Literally took 5 seconds to set up. Definitely worth it for ease of use compared to SIXAXIS.

[jeffyjaixx]

Got it!

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c251/LouDiamonds/HPIM0806.jpg

Literally took 5 seconds to set up. Definitely worth it for ease of use compared to SIXAXIS.

Where did you get it from? 39.99?

[bembol]

Future Shop, $39.99...I think they're the only store that has it in Canada too.

[veejam]

just got a ps3, any good modding sites out such as the xboxscene out there?

[AlphaTwo]

just got a ps3, any good modding sites out such as the xboxscene out there?I hope you are kidding right? It's so new, even if there are dedicated modders, it will be a while until there are actual mods, or even a "scene".

[AnthraX]

just got a ps3, any good modding sites out such as the xboxscene out there?

http://ps3scene.com/

"Xbox-Scene launches www.PS3Scene.com" at the top of xbox-scene.

[HUH]

I hope you are kidding right? It's so new, even if there are dedicated modders, it will be a while until there are actual mods, or even a "scene".

there has been a HDD addon and controller LED mod already i think

[jeffyjaixx]

there has been a HDD addon and controller LED mod already i think

Yes, the controller LED mod looks good.

[AlphaTwo]

there has been a HDD addon and controller LED mod already i thinkThose aren't exactly the kind of modding people are thinking off, I think.

The HDD addon is just removing the built in one and replacing it with a bigger one (which Sony allows anyways), and changling lights on the controller? Big woop..

[GunnerX]

People have already installed Linux and have full access to all the Hardware of the PS3. This is how they are able to rip the Blu Ray movies. Shouldn't take long for the scene to grow since it's a PC anyways. :)

[kevin01]

Posted this in HD-DVD vs BluRay forum... they said to post here:


a user says on the ps3scene (forums), that a driver for the hd-dvd player for the 360 will be soon or is already made, and youll be able to use the hddvd player. There are already drives for the 360 wired remote. This would all work if you have linux on ur ps3.

[jeffyjaixx]

Posted this in HD-DVD vs BluRay forum... they said to post here:


a user says on the ps3scene (forums), that a driver for the hd-dvd player for the 360 will be soon or is already made, and youll be able to use the hddvd player. There are already drives for the 360 wired remote. This would all work if you have linux on ur ps3.

What do you mean a driver for the HD-DVD player? Doesn't the HD-DVD add-on already play HD-DVDs normally?

[bmaz]

What do you mean a driver for the HD-DVD player? Doesn't the HD-DVD add-on already play HD-DVDs normally?
When you connect it to a Xbox 360 it does, but if you look closely this thread is the PS3 thread.
Therefore kevin01 is referring to drivers for the PS3 so you can use the HD-DVD add-on.

[alysomji]

I have already seen one legitimate HD-DVD rip on the net. I guess the ripper used the Xbox 360 or PS3 to do it?

[jeffyjaixx]

When you connect it to a Xbox 360 it does, but if you look closely this thread is the PS3 thread.
Therefore kevin01 is referring to drivers for the PS3 so you can use the HD-DVD add-on.

OH I see. Thanks for clearing it up.

That would be pretty cool.

[GunnerX]

Sweet!! A true HD DVD/BR dual player! That would definitely be cool.

[Badman]

Just got a ps3 20gb:D
So far so good.

I got a question though. does the ps3 have to be on to charge the controller? Also I set the screen saver to come on after 5 mins. but I've yet to see it.
Oh and When your downloading a game can you do anything else with it in the meantime?

[jeffyjaixx]

Just got a ps3 20gb:D
So far so good.

I got a question though. does the ps3 have to be on to charge the controller? Also I set the screen saver to come on after 5 mins. but I've yet to see it.
Oh and When your downloading a game can you do anything else with it in the meantime?

I think the PS3 has to be on for it to charge the controller (I wish you could charge it when it's off too :\)

No, you can't do anything when you're downloading a game unfortunately. Hope they release an update that can fix that in the near future.

[uddinf]

I think the PS3 has to be on for it to charge the controller (I wish you could charge it when it's off too :\)

No, you can't do anything when you're downloading a game unfortunately. Hope they release an update that can fix that in the near future.

the system doesn't have to be on to charge the controller. that would be really stupid. as long as its in standby mode (red light is on) then you can plug in the controller and charge it

[jeffyjaixx]

the system doesn't have to be on to charge the controller. that would be really stupid. as long as its in standby mode (red light is on) then you can plug in the controller and charge it

Oh really? I thought it couldn't because nothing lights up when I plug it in.

[uddinf]

actually you were right. the system does have to be on to charge controllers.

[Badman]

I was reading up and you can charge the controller though the computer. Nice idea as I always have a usb cable out cuz my mp3 player uses it as well;)

[jeffyjaixx]

I was reading up and you can charge the controller though the computer. Nice idea as I always have a usb cable out cuz my mp3 player uses it as well;)

Nice! I can charge it via my laptop in front of me then when I'm playing heh.

Thanks for the info.

[GunnerX]

That's another problem I have with the PS3 Controller. The battery cannot be replaced easily. You need to have a PC that's always on or have the PS3 running which generates a lot of heat.

[numb555]

You need to have a PC that's always on or have the PS3 running which generates a lot of heat.

PS3 generates that much heat?

I've had mine on 14 hours straight, and heat level was surprisingly acceptable ... Than again, I'm running everything off the Hard drive. Yellow Dog Linux and the Demos.

[GunnerX]

It's power consumption is 380W so yes it generates quite a bit of heat inside my entertainment unit. I keep the door open but it gets quite hot in there even though all I am doing is downloading a demo.

I don't have any games for the PS3 but I find it rather surprising at how much loading and how long it takes for demos that are on the HD.

[numb555]

IC, my entertainment shelf is open so heat is not an issue.

And yes the demos' loading time could be better, I hope the loading time is not an issue in the full version. Blue Ray potentially should have faster transfer speed than DVDs.

[GunnerX]

IC, my entertainment shelf is open so heat is not an issue.

And yes the demos' loading time could be better, I hope the loading time is not an issue in the full version. Blue Ray potentially should have faster transfer speed than DVDs.

Unfortunately, the 2x BD drive is only equivalent to 8x DVD. The 360 has a 12x DVD drive but that generates the noise.

[Emancipated]

I'm still on my first charge. I didn't charge it that much except having it tethered going through the setup as required. Then again, what the hell is there to play on it? :D Seriously, how long does the battery go on one charge? Hours for a full charge?

Haven't played more than 5 hours since I got it but I expect to rack a lot of mileage with F1 this week.

[Yesdear]

I'm running everything off the Hard drive. Yellow Dog Linux

So what can you do with Linux on the PS3?

[numb555]

So what can you do with Linux on the PS3?

Everything! Chat, Home theatre through VLC, can run Snes emulator (havn't done that yet as i got the system last Thurs), surf, stream network contents through samba ... So basically its a full fledge working PC!

Since my main O/S at work is Ubuntu Edgy Eft w/ Beryl, YDL on the PS3 is prolly the best thing since slice bread. Before Beryl, my main windows manager on Linux was E17 ... So i'm quite familiar with it ... Its one of the prettier Windows manager out there.

edit: for all the flak that Sony gets for lying and what not, I'm prolly 1 of the few that feel that the system delivered (on the hardware end, software yet to be seen LOL). All the hardware worked seamlessly with my existing hardware, from my wireless keyboard/mouse, bluetooth devices, wireless ethernet, usb key, etc.

[jeffyjaixx]

Does anyone sometimes get dropped from their wireless connection? Like it says, you are signed out or network connection error?

I have a WRT54G v5 or 6 I forgot.

[otaque]

Does anyone sometimes get dropped from their wireless connection? Like it says, you are signed out or network connection error?

I have a WRT54G v5 or 6 I forgot.

Yea, like every 30 mins or so. Haven't gotten around to trying a different AP yet, but the xbox360 wireless connection is stable.

[Badman]

Could this be used on the ps3?
http://accessories.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=ca&l=en&s=dhs&cs=CADHS1&sku=310-7990

Seems like a good deal for bluetooth but would the ps3 recognize it?

Also if i was to use my wireless mouse and keyboard combo would the ps3 recognize it?

[FooNdaR]

Could this be used on the ps3?
http://accessories.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=ca&l=en&s=dhs&cs=CADHS1&sku=310-7990

Seems like a good deal for bluetooth but would the ps3 recognize it?

Also if i was to use my wireless mouse and keyboard combo would the ps3 recognize it?

Do you have a PS3?
If so...try it.

[kevin01]

Could this be used on the ps3?
http://accessories.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=ca&l=en&s=dhs&cs=CADHS1&sku=310-7990

Seems like a good deal for bluetooth but would the ps3 recognize it?

Also if i was to use my wireless mouse and keyboard combo would the ps3 recognize it?

you could use a usb one, and it should work with a wireless one that has a usb adapter with it

[CFRTim]

No, you can't do anything when you're downloading a game unfortunately. Hope they release an update that can fix that in the near future.

Or buy a 360, you can download while playing games or watching a movie

[bmaz]

Or buy a 360, you can download while playing games or watching a movie
Good idea, only the 360 doesn't play PS3 games or have a Blu-Ray player.

[Yesdear]

Or buy a 360, you can download while playing games or watching a movie


Actually, the download pauses when you start playing a game. You can at least queue up a number of downloads. I am not sure what happens when with downloads when listening to music or watching a movie.

[Skidz]

Actually, the download pauses when you start playing an online game.

fixed :)

[jeffyjaixx]

Or buy a 360, you can download while playing games or watching a movie

Get out, troll.

[rdtx2002]

Tecmo's Ninja Gaiden Sigma director Yosuke Hayashi revealed new details for the game:

The game is currently 35% completed, user can run around all levels
The developers studied beyond the PS3 hardware, now they understand how everything functioned and how to use each desired characteristic
In order to use the hardware fully, one has to program the 7 SPUs (Synergistic Processing Units) in the cell chip.
It's important to find out how to use SPUs for graphics completely, they are seeing daily graphic improvements
The build from today looks noticeably better than the TGS version
Currently 50% of their new ideas are put into the game, and the other 50% are things that were not realized in the predecessors
For example there is a scene where helicopters circle in the sky and throwing bombs toward the city, it was not realized in the Xbox version due to hardware restriction
It is possible to use projectile weapons like bow and arrows in mid-air
All textures used in the PS3 version are completely new
Some existing puzzles are revised to be more intuitive and natural
You play about 20% of time with Rachel
The game is a completely new generation and no extra games like the NES Ninja Gaiden Trilogy were added
The game will support 720p, this is the most optimal resolution, because there are too much borders in 1080p.

[rdtx2002]

Konami clarified that the following next-gen game titles were not canceled, as reported by Famitsu and Dengeki, instead the release date of these games were undetermined. However, Code Arms: Assault for PS3 was indeed canceled. Famitsu already posted a correction.

Gradius series (PS3)
Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball (PS3)
New Action Game (PS3)
New RPG (PS3)
New Action Adventure Game 2 (Wii)
New RPG (Wii)

[rdtx2002]

- UNCONFIRMED: Square Enix revealed further details on Final Fantasy XIII, Final Fantasy Versus XIII for PS3 and Final Fantasy Agitos XIII for mobile phone.

Final Fantasy XIII:
The new male character's name is related to weather, but not related to the female lead character Lightning
The summon beasts are vastly changed, for example Shiva can now transform into a motor bike, and she can use more than one element, not limited to blizzard
It is possible to transform the summon beasts into other forms like motor bike during the battle
The crystal will give user the power to invent/compose certain things
There is a city inside a floating Cocoon, which is formed by the crystal and protected by a machine
There are some mysterious changes in the crystal, causing the cocoon "awakened", people fear those who live inside the cocoon become invaders and begin to hate them
To stabilize the cocoon, people performed emergency treatment to it, banished residents inside the cocoon and move them back to the ground
The Crystal chose Lightning (the female protagonists), give her fate to lead the world. People believed she's an enemy to the human race, she will lead the world into ruin.


Final Fantasy Versus XIII:
The gameplay will be similar to the Kingdom Hearts series, with more action elements than the FF series
The male protagonist is capable of teleporting to where his weapons are thrown.
He has some sort of limits to his power.
Originally there was no good or evil, but soon it will be divided between the two, in the last Kingdom where the crystal was held
The Kingdom is very advanced in technologies, and isolated from the outside world.
The Kingdom is protected by Magic Order, but a group of invaders from outside began to invade the city for the crystal


Final Fantasy Agito XIII:
The game will be in full 3D
The protagonist is supposed to protect the crystal
The game will be available on mobile phone by the end of 2007

[rdtx2002]

- Sega announced they will have 4 launch titles for PS3 in Europe in March 2007: Sonic the Hedgehog, Full Auto 2: Battlelines, World Snooker Championship 2007 and Virtua Fighter 5.

[GunnerX]

In order to use the hardware fully, one has to program the 7 SPUs (Synergistic Processing Units) in the cell chip.

They actually said this?? The cell has 8 SPUs with one turned off. Out of the 7 that's left, the OS takes 1 so games will only have 6 SPUs to use, MAX. The OS can also take another SPU from the game at any time and the game has to give it up. So in effect, the games have to be optimized for 5 SPUs as they cannot assume that 6 will be available all the time.

[rdtx2002]

They actually said this?? The cell has 8 SPUs with one turned off. Out of the 7 that's left, the OS takes 1 so games will only have 6 SPUs to use, MAX. The OS can also take another SPU from the game at any time and the game has to give it up. So in effect, the games have to be optimized for 5 SPUs as they cannot assume that 6 will be available all the time.

well.... I ain't going to debate on the merits of what you have just posted.. but if Temco says that you need to program all 7... then i'll take their word for it, they are the developers anyhow

There are always different ways and tweaks that can be had for the PS3.. maybe Temco has found a way to program all 7 while having the OS and the SPUs at the same time.

we shall see what improvements they have made when the screens actually get 'leaked'

[rdtx2002]

January 16, 2007

PS3 Shipments Hit 2 Million Worldwide
According to officials from Sony Japan, total hardware shipments for the PlayStation 3 console have now reached 2 million units worldwide, with news of a total of 1 million consoles shipped in Japan.

The official announcement confirms that Sony missed its target of 2 million units shipped before the end of the last year, but nevertheless, the company claims that the console has been the fastest ever to reach the 2 million unit milestone.

According to a Kyodo News report translating the comments, Sony still intends to meet its target of six million units shipped by the end of March – which will encompass the European launch of the console by current plans.

At the same time, Sony indicated that software sales in Japan and the U.S. had exceeded 5 million units by the end of 2006. Meanwhile, the number of registered users for the console’s online features reached 500,000 worldwide according to the company – representing a 25 percent adoption rate for the free online service. The number of downloads for free game Gran Turismo HD Concept in Japan were put at 300,000 in just twenty days.

Sony’s announcement comes after a report yesterday by analyst group Nomura Securities which suggested that the company had achieved only 75 percent of its fiscal years sales target, following lower-than-expected results in the U.S. The group cut its own estimates for PlayStation 3 sales by the end of March from 6 million to 4.5 million.

POSTED: 05.15AM PST, 01/16/07 - David Jenkins

[Yesdear]

Just received a little box that will make my life a lot easier. I only have one HDMI input on my TV but now have two HDMI devices (PS3 & HDPVR). Up until today I was swapping cables when I wanted to switch between the two but I just received a HDMI AV switch (HDS-201) from Monoprice.

For under $60 US you can pickup a switch and a couple of cables. Some chain stores charge that just for a single HDMI cable. Shipping was quick and now I don't have to squish behind my TV everytime I want to use the PS3.

[jhardy]

...
The game is a completely new generation and no extra games like the NES Ninja Gaiden Trilogy were added...

Boooooo!

[Yesdear]

No more 20GB model? Bestbuy and Future Shop do not even have a link for it anymore, only the 60GB.

[CFRTim]

No more 20GB model? Bestbuy and Future Shop do not even have a link for it anymore, only the 60GB.

I think SONY stoped mfg. the 20GB model since it was loosing more money on it than the 60GB model ($300 vs. $230 or something like that).

[rfdghost]

new firmware 1.50 update, apparently it fixes the backwards compatibility problems with graphical ugliness of non progressive scan games. will post an update once it's done.

and it's more like BB/FS was losing more money selling the 20gb model the reason from them cutting it, wish i originally bought the 20gb....................... looks so much better without the chrome imo.

[jeffyjaixx]

Yup, I'm still downloading mine, but here's some ss of RE 4.

PS2:

http://dot50cal.the-horror.com/shcomp/re4ps2.jpg

PS3:

http://dot50cal.the-horror.com/shcomp/re4ps3.jpg

[rfdghost]

yup, the new firmware fixed the graphical problems bigtime. a must firmware download if you plan to play any backwards compatible game.

[rdtx2002]

DMC4:

http://www.the-magicbox.com/0701/dmc42.jpg
http://www.the-magicbox.com/0701/dmc413.jpg

Ninja Gaiden Sigma:

http://www.the-magicbox.com/0701/ng10.jpg
http://www.the-magicbox.com/0701/ng2.jpg

Lair:

http://www.the-magicbox.com/0701/lair2.jpg
http://www.the-magicbox.com/0701/lair5.jpg

[rdtx2002]

Here are the latest Japanese console hardware sales for the week of Jan 8 - 14:

Platform Sales Total
Wii - 93,708 - 289,039
DS Lite - 89,287 - 434,165
PSP - 48,804 - 166,990
PlayStation 3 - 25,531 - 95,475
PlayStation 2 - 22,663 - 74,700
Xbox 360 - 9,035 - 27,270
GB Micro - 1,959 - 5,270
GBA SP - 1,547 - 3,911
GameCube - 611 - 1,869
GBA - 79 - 136
Nintendo DS - 41 - 116

[jeffyjaixx]

I was just playing FF XII, what an improvement seriously!

It's like playing on the PS2 now :)

[CFRTim]

I was just playing FF XII, what an improvement seriously!

It's like playing on the PS2 now :)

I am not even going to say anything, but next time I'll sell you my old PS2

[sfu_lifer]

I am not even going to say anything, but next time I'll sell you my old PS2

It's true :D
Actually I still have my PS2 hooked up. Why should i wear down that precious laser for a PS2 game.

[jeffyjaixx]

It's true :D
Actually I still have my PS2 hooked up. Why should i wear down that precious laser for a PS2 game.

EBGames PRP :)

[Vertigo]

EBGames PRP :)
Or Costco membership. ;)

[joshmxpx]

I was just playing FF XII, what an improvement seriously!

It's like playing on the PS2 now :)

Wow, I wish I got a ps3 so the games would look as good as my ps2!!!

Does anyone else feel the heartrate of this thread totally slowing down?

[jeffyjaixx]

Wow, I wish I got a ps3 so the games would look as good as my ps2!!!

Does anyone else feel the heartrate of this thread totally slowing down?

What?

There have been issues, now it's fixed. I bet many are happy to hear that.

You're not helping any.

[Badman]

Heres some interesting news.
http://www.businessweek.com/investor/content/jan2007/pi20070122_415523.htm

They got the numbers on who won the Launch Wars:

1st: Wii 1.1million (November, 2006, to yearend 2006)
2nd: PS3 687,000 (November, 2006, to yearend 2006)
3rd: Xbox360 607,000 (November, 2005, to yearend 2005)

[Emancipated]

Heres some interesting news.
http://www.businessweek.com/investor/content/jan2007/pi20070122_415523.htm

They got the numbers on who won the Launch Wars:

1st: Wii 1.1million (November, 2006, to yearend 2006)
2nd: PS3 687,000 (November, 2006, to yearend 2006)
3rd: Xbox360 607,000 (November, 2005, to yearend 2005)

Hmm... does this mean all the Xbox fan boys can shut up now?

They didn't exactly trounce the Xbox, but a beating nonetheless. May be they can now start working on releasing some good titles and improving their terrible UI.

[sfu_lifer]

Heres some interesting news.
http://www.businessweek.com/investor/content/jan2007/pi20070122_415523.htm

They got the numbers on who won the Launch Wars:

1st: Wii 1.1million (November, 2006, to yearend 2006)
2nd: PS3 687,000 (November, 2006, to yearend 2006)
3rd: Xbox360 607,000 (November, 2005, to yearend 2005)

360 got trashed despite having Gears of War which kicks the crap out of that Half Life 2 wannabe Resistance. What more does MS have to do to get some consumer respect :lol: ?
Between this and the craptacular Zune, that's not good.

[Emancipated]

360 got trashed despite having Gears of War which kicks the crap out of that Half Life 2 wannabe Resistance. What more does MS have to do to get some consumer respect :lol: ?
Between this and the craptacular Zune, that's not good.

Gears was not a launch title. The PS3 as yet have no console defining title released. I bet if Gears was released on launch day, it would have achieved 1million units easily.

Resistance is crap. Don't even mention Half-Life2 in the same sentence as that.

[sfu_lifer]

Gears was not a launch title. The PS3 as yet have no console defining title released. I bet if Gears was released on launch day, it would have achieved 1million units easily.

Resistance is crap. Don't even mention Half-Life2 in the same sentence as that.
I thought it played kind of nicely. Looked pretty decent (still NOWHERE NEAR GoW). And 40 player multiplayer which can get kind of old after a while since some of the maps are big and hunting for others gets boring.

[veejam]

Gears was not a launch title. The PS3 as yet have no console defining title released. I bet if Gears was released on launch day, it would have achieved 1million units easily.

Resistance is crap. Don't even mention Half-Life2 in the same sentence as that.

i bet if MGS4 was released on launch day, it would have achieved 1 million units easily too. im pretty sure 360 would have sold more if there was more units available at that time though since it sold out quickly while ps3 is selling out but at a slower pace. anyways i love both my 360 and ps3, 360 more at the moment though.

[Emancipated]

i bet if MGS4 was released on launch day, it would have achieved 1 million units easily too. im pretty sure 360 would have sold more if there was more units available at that time though since it sold out quickly while ps3 is selling out but at a slower pace. anyways i love both my 360 and ps3, 360 more at the moment though.

Me too. But obviously because the PS3 has nothing interesting to play on. Again, Resistance is crap. I wish I bought something else. Man, this game is garbage. Just terrible.

I bought F1 Champion Edition, but Sony decided to rip out the online component for the Japanese version. What a bunch of retards. No online, no fun. :mad:

[sfu_lifer]

Me too. But obviously because the PS3 has nothing interesting to play on. Again, Resistance is crap. I wish I bought something else. Man, this game is garbage. Just terrible.

I bought F1 Champion Edition, but Sony decided to rip out the online component for the Japanese version. What a bunch of retards. No online, no fun. :mad:
Yea, we're gonna be hurting for a while gameswise on the PS3. I'd rather play it on my 360 if it's multiplatform (360 version is almost always better plus I prefer the controller with the rumble :D ).
And what is it with the load times on the PS3? It's worse than the 360 and they're supposed to be the ones caching files to the HD.

[Badman]

i like resistance......it doesn't do anything defining but it doesnt do anything bad. Its still a great game both single player and multilayer and for a first fps on a brand new console it does the job well. (some other fps that other consoles had during launch were crap)

[joshmxpx]

Wheres this price increase as mentioned in the updated thread title?

[jeffyjaixx]

Wheres this price increase as mentioned in the updated thread title?

FS and BB are selling them @ 699.99 now.

[al3x89]

FS and BB are selling them @ 699.99 now.

It's because the demand isn't high anymore... no body wants the PS3, its all about the Wii and the 360. PS3 is ****.

[Brownbear]

2 months out of the gate and you fanboys instantly come to a conclusion. Give Sony some time to gather their thoughts. I have a strong feeling that ps3 will be where they want in 2 years.

Till whenever, i am impartial, and not going to hate on sony just cuz they are having some trouble.
lets see YOU [not just you] launch a console.

[jeffyjaixx]

It's because the demand isn't high anymore... no body wants the PS3, its all about the Wii and the 360. PS3 is ****.

That doesn't explain why it's @ 699.99. I like how you 360 fanboys come in and try to swing a hit or two @ Sony every now and then.

[jerryhussain]

It's because the demand isn't high anymore... no body wants the PS3, its all about the Wii and the 360. PS3 is ****.
lol no.

PS3 Price announcement (May '06): $599USD/$659 (1USD ~ 1.108CAD)
Now: $599/$699 (1USD ~ 1.183CAD)

[Anessa]

They had better get some good games ASAP because a price increase in the console wars is like using wooden sticks vs. machine guns.

[Badman]

i still don't think it's a price adjustment. Even the Sony store still has it for $660. Also there would be at least one article about this(you know how much people just wanna post bad news about the ps3)

[joshmxpx]

It's because the demand isn't high anymore... no body wants the PS3, its all about the Wii and the 360. PS3 is ****.

That statement makes no sense. High demand = higher price, lower demand = lower price. Just look at the price of gas.

If they want to increase sales, the last thing they should do is raise the price.

[CFRTim]

According to Xbox 360 magazine, the Sony-owned PSP Connect site has a large banner add promising a Gran Turismo HD video preview.
The only problem is that the banner uses a screenshot from Microsoft's Project Gotham Racing 3. It is not an accidental banner being placed in the wrong place either, someone has scrawled PS3 promotional guff all over the image.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/758/758402p1.html

[sfu_lifer]

They had better get some good games ASAP because a price increase in the console wars is like using wooden sticks vs. machine guns.
With the PS3 so difficult to develop for, that ain't happening.

It's gonna be a trickle for the next little while. I hope it gets better since I do have one now :)

[gmc]

Devil May Cry 4 is rumoured to be heading to Xbox360 according to Playstation Magazine.

SquareEnix has licensed the Unreal Engine 3.0 (Gears of War) to produce some future games.

Software sales in Japan for the Playstation 3 didn't even hit the top30 charts last week. Not saying the 360 did any better (although Gears of War placed 7th place) because the Japanese have too much pride to support Microsoft's product...however weaker than expected sales and lack of interest surrounding the PS3 in Japan is concerning. The Nintendo Wii is the king right now.

[Canadianpsycho]

According to Xbox 360 magazine, the Sony-owned PSP Connect site has a large banner add promising a Gran Turismo HD video preview.
The only problem is that the banner uses a screenshot from Microsoft's Project Gotham Racing 3. It is not an accidental banner being placed in the wrong place either, someone has scrawled PS3 promotional guff all over the image.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/758/758402p1.html

Haha, awesome!

[jeffyjaixx]

According to Xbox 360 magazine, the Sony-owned PSP Connect site has a large banner add promising a Gran Turismo HD video preview.
The only problem is that the banner uses a screenshot from Microsoft's Project Gotham Racing 3. It is not an accidental banner being placed in the wrong place either, someone has scrawled PS3 promotional guff all over the image.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/758/758402p1.html

It seems a non-gaming lackey was told to get a picture for GT-HD, ran a google search for it and this is what she or he found.

It was actually the "gamers" @ Gamespot that blew this one :lol:.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://i.i.com.com/cnet.g2/images/2005/257/927245_20050915_screen002.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/driving/granturismo5/show_msgs.html%3Ftopic_id%3Dm-1-28122896&h=576&w=1024&sz=225&hl=en&sig2=aIHQB46L9bZfry0DBV1ufg&start=49&tbnid=VNP6lR_vWxDpuM:&tbnh=84&tbnw=150&ei=IBm6RfTLK6e6yALbsNm0CA&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dgran%2Bturismo%2Bhd%26start%3D42%26nd sp%3D21%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26channel%3Ds%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:eek:fficial%26sa%3DN



"The GT HD content this banner links to is actually by the marketing service MediaSpigot and not packaged by SCE or Sony Corp"

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/758/758402p1.html

[sfu_lifer]

Awesome news. It seems Sony's found a good workaround for those future titles to hopefully solve the lack of a scaler issue.
Won't help the current titles but it should help with future ones (still dumb having a supposedly HD system with no scaler):
http://www.beyond3d.com/articles/ps3scaler/

[jeffyjaixx]

Awesome news. It seems Sony's found a good workaround for those future titles to hopefully solve the lack of a scaler issue.
Won't help the current titles but it should help with future ones (still dumb having a supposedly HD system with no scaler):
http://www.beyond3d.com/articles/ps3scaler/

There IS a scaler.

As stated in the third paragraph of the article.

"(SCEI) has finally exposed part of the built-in hardware scaler to developers."

[rdtx2002]

Reports from ps3news.org and 'pirate' people that the ISO loader for Ps3 is in BETA TESTING stage!!!!!!

[sfu_lifer]

There IS a scaler.

As stated in the third paragraph of the article.

"(SCEI) has finally exposed part of the built-in hardware scaler to developers."

In the strict sense of the word, yes. However, it is not an entirely free out of the box very easy solution like the 360's dedicated Anna chip. I know a PS3 developer working on the actual hardware level so not quite true.

[jeffyjaixx]

In the strict sense of the word, yes. However, it is not an entirely free out of the box very easy solution like the 360's dedicated Anna chip. I know a PS3 developer working on the actual hardware level so not quite true.

Yes, that I agree. Dev's are still working with it.

[sfu_lifer]

Yes, that I agree. Dev's are still working with it.

It's really a hacked job of a scaler but hey, as long as it works I'm a happy camper.
On another note, is it really proven that Sony raised the MSRP of the PS3???
Yes I know BB and FS have raised it but has anyone else?

[acb82]

On another note, is it really proven that Sony raised the MSRP of the PS3???
Yes I know BB and FS have raised it but has anyone else?Don't know yet, but as mentioned above SonyStyle.ca still lists the 60GB system for $659.99. You would think that would probably be the best way to tell if it's official or not.

Here's the link: http://www.sonystyle.ca/commerce/servlet/CategoryDisplays?storeId=10001&langId=-1&catalogId=10001&categoryId=100345&navigationPath=n100152

[BoxsterS]

It's really a hacked job of a scaler but hey, as long as it works I'm a happy camper.
On another note, is it really proven that Sony raised the MSRP of the PS3???
Yes I know BB and FS have raised it but has anyone else?

I disagree that the scaler is a hack job - it isn't. It's an actual hardware scaler as opposed to a Cell/RSX hack that the uninformed have tried to promote. Besides, it's existence has already been proven by the PS3 development community. The developers have known about the hardware scaler of the PS3 for some time, but have not been allowed to use it because the game would have automatically failed authorization from Sony. It may not be as transparent as ANA, but at least it's there for all of the developers to start using as of now. There are a number of reasons why the hardware scalar was shrouded in secrecy, but the actual reason hasn't been leaked as of yet.

[Toronto]

Devil May Cry 4 is rumoured to be heading to Xbox360 according to Playstation Magazine.


DMC is not going to the 360
http://www.xbox365.com/news.cgi?id=GGPiruPHdd01160700

Neither is final fantasy 13 or MGS. Dont believe all the rumours

[joshmxpx]

Devil May Cry 4 is rumoured to be heading to Xbox360 according to Playstation Magazine.

SquareEnix has licensed the Unreal Engine 3.0 (Gears of War) to produce some future games.

Software sales in Japan for the Playstation 3 didn't even hit the top30 charts last week. Not saying the 360 did any better (although Gears of War placed 7th place) because the Japanese have too much pride to support Microsoft's product...however weaker than expected sales and lack of interest surrounding the PS3 in Japan is concerning. The Nintendo Wii is the king right now.

Gears of War placing 7th is actually quite significant for a few reasons:

There is not a very large 360 install base in Japan, so a title achieving seventh place is pretty good. Also, Japanese are traditionally not fans of first/third person shooters. Also, they are not the biggest Microsoft fans.

All in all, this speaks pretty good for Gears and the 360 together in Japan, especially after all the attention Blue Dragon captured recently.

[jeffyjaixx]

DMC is not going to the 360
http://www.xbox365.com/news.cgi?id=GGPiruPHdd01160700

Neither is final fantasy 13 or MGS. Dont believe all the rumours

Btw, that article was like from a year ago. Is there a later version of the confirmation?

[jerryhussain]

DMC is not going to the 360
http://www.xbox365.com/news.cgi?id=GGPiruPHdd01160700

Neither is final fantasy 13 or MGS. Dont believe all the rumours
Any comment about exclusivity from a 3rd party should be taken with a grain of salt. ;)

[pennywize]

DMC is not going to the 360
http://www.xbox365.com/news.cgi?id=GGPiruPHdd01160700

Neither is final fantasy 13 or MGS. Dont believe all the rumours

That article was from January 2006. In a year, things do change. Take a look at Virtua Fighter 5, Fatal Inertia, Blade Storm, and Assassin's Creed. Those were said to be PS3 exclusives but now look what happened.

[Fantaz]

Oh yeah right, so they think that a higher price will make the PS3 more attractive? Well I don't think soNy

[Ixidor]

They aren't selling copies as fast as they wanted, and having invetory that's not selling is costing them money. They probably know that if you're decided to buy a ~700$ game system after tax, another 40$ isn't going to put you off. They might as well gnab another 40$ from you to make up for all the other people not buying it.

That's why I think they raised the price, anyways.

[joshmxpx]

Any comment about exclusivity from a 3rd party should be taken with a grain of salt. ;)

Duly noted. With the high price of game development these days, 3rd party exclusivity is soon to be a thing of the past, unless the console pays the developer a large sum of money to keep exclusivity.

See Dead Rising 2 for an example, or GTA for that matter.

[VenomZeus]

"Toronto" There is a very good chance we will see MGS on the xbox 360. I read an article on IGN about a month ago saying Konami wants this to happen and will probably happen when some contract agreement with Sony ends.

[sfu_lifer]

"Toronto" There is a very good chance we will see MGS on the xbox 360. I read an article on IGN about a month ago saying Konami wants this to happen and will probably happen when some contract agreement with Sony ends.
It happened with MGS2. I'm not holding my breath that it won't happen with MGS4. 360 version will come out later with more extra features that are near useless.

[AlphaTwo]

Duly noted. With the high price of game development these days, 3rd party exclusivity is soon to be a thing of the past, unless the console pays the developer a large sum of money to keep exclusivity.

See Dead Rising 2 for an example, or GTA for that matter.GTA4 is on both PS3 and 360.

[joshmxpx]

GTA4 is on both PS3 and 360.

Exactly my point. GTA used to be Sony exclusive, at least for the first few months, then Microsoft paid a lot of money so that it comes out on both systems simultaneously.

[rdtx2002]

- Sony announced they have begun to produce Cell processors in 65nm. Currently PlayStation 3 console still uses the 90nm Cell processors, 65nm processor will be used in future to reduce production costs.

[rdtx2002]

- Sony announced the worldwide shipment of console hardware and software for Q3 2006:

Hardware

* PlayStation 2 - 4.11 million units (-23%)
* PSP - 1.76 million units (-72%)
* PlayStation 3 - 1.84 million units

Software

* PlayStation 2 - 78 million units (-16%)
* PSP - 21.2 million units (+22%)
* PlayStation 3 - 5.2 million units

- Here are Sony's accumulated worldwide shipment of all console systems by the end of 2006 (Dec 31, 2006):

PlayStation 3 - 1.84 million units

* Japan - 0.81 million
* US - 1.03 million

PlayStation 2 - 115.36 million units

* Japan - 24.76 millions
* US - 46.53 millions
* Europe - 44.07 millions

PSone - 102.49 million units

* Japan - 21.59 millions
* US - 40.78 millions
* Europe - 40.12 millions

PSP - 24.70 million units

* Japan - 6.23 millions
* US - 9.58 millions
* Europe - 8.89 millions

- Sony posted a 178.9 billion yen operating profile in Q3 2006, which dropped by 15% due to losses to the start-up costs for PlayStation 3. Net profile dropped by 5% to 159.9 billion yen; but revenue surged by 10% to 2.61 trillion yen, thanks to strong sales of its Bravia LCD TVs and digital cameras.

- Square Enix has registered Makai Toushi SaGa for patent protection in Japan, it is the name of the first SaGa RPG [aka Final Fantasy Adventure] for GameBoy. It is unclear whether the company is planning to remake the series.

- Square Enix revealed its worldwide shipment of games released between April 1, 2006 and December 31, 2006:

Final Fantasy XII (PS2)
- US - 1.66 million units

Kingdom Hearts II (PS2)
- Europe - 690,000 units

Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria (PS2)
- Japan - 420,000 units
- US - 160,000 units

Dirge of Cerberus: Final Fantasy VII (PS2)
- US - 450,000 units
- Europe - 250,000 units

Dragon Quest VIII: The Journey of the Cursed King (PS2)
- Europe - 450,000 units

Final Fantasy III (NDS)
- Japan - 950,000 units
- US - 340,000 units

Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker (NDS)
- Japan - 910,000 units

Final Fantasy XI (PC/PS2/X360)
- 500,000 paying subscribers worldwide

[jvangilst]

Newest rumours on DMC4 and Dead Rising 2:

http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2007/1/31/6826

[rdtx2002]

Newest rumours on DMC4 and Dead Rising 2:

http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2007/1/31/6826


Capcom totally shot down that DMC4 on Xbox360 rumor.. but doesn't necessarily shoot down the Dead Rising 2 on Ps3...

me thinks Sony has thrown capcom some moneybags

[jeffyjaixx]

- Sony announced they have begun to produce Cell processors in 65nm. Currently PlayStation 3 console still uses the 90nm Cell processors, 65nm processor will be used in future to reduce production costs.

Do you know when these 65nm processors will be in the new shipments?

[GunnerX]

Firmware update v1.51 is now available.

[kevin01]

Firmware update v1.51 is now available.

whats new with it?

[jhardy]

To "make better" ps3 game compatibility, whatever that means. Some report the BD movie freezing issues have stopped. (Yes, ps3,not ps2)

[sfu_lifer]

Hm, i wonder if i should sell my PS3 at a loss and just wait these 65nm ps3's out.
Likely they'll use up less juice and put out less heat.

[GunnerX]

I have a feeling these firmware updates are gonna be a frequent thing. What's even more annoying is the entire process of updating is rather tedious. I guess I will have to leave the USB cable plugged in and the controller connected.

[joshmxpx]

Capcom totally shot down that DMC4 on Xbox360 rumor.. but doesn't necessarily shoot down the Dead Rising 2 on Ps3...

me thinks Sony has thrown capcom some moneybags

I thought the original plan was always Dead Rising 1 - 360, Dead Rising 2 - PS3.

And then MS threw capcom a crap load of money to keep it on 360. That's the way joystiq's been telling the story, at least.

[Leshita]

Damn, I really want to play VF5 (ordered 2 Arcade sticks for the PS3 already).
But I think I will hold out for the first price drop or when a white console comes out (hopefully one does come out in the summer or something). :/

[rdtx2002]

Damn, I really want to play VF5 (ordered 2 Arcade sticks for the PS3 already).
But I think I will hold out for the first price drop or when a white console comes out (hopefully one does come out in the summer or something). :/

wait a bit.. the PS3 is going to the 60nm process which will make the PS3 more cheaper to produce.

[joshmxpx]

wait a bit.. the PS3 is going to the 60nm process which will make the PS3 more cheaper to produce.

Doesn't necessarily mean a price drop at all.

[jeffyjaixx]

Hm, i wonder if i should sell my PS3 at a loss and just wait these 65nm ps3's out.
Likely they'll use up less juice and put out less heat.

The point of these 65nm processors is just that it's cheaper to make and less heat produced. It's not like there's known heat issues with PS3 ... yet *crosses fingers*. Everything else is technically the same. So if you have no known issues, I would rather stick with the one you bought already.

To "make better" ps3 game compatibility, whatever that means. Some report the BD movie freezing issues have stopped. (Yes, ps3,not ps2)

System Update 1.51 addede 2/2/07

Users
You can now select an image to use as the User icon from [Photo].
Settings
[Key Tone] has been added as an option under [Sound Settings].
[Delete Backup Data] has been added as an option under [System Settings] > [Backup Utility].
WEP 128, WPA-PSK (TKIP) and WPA-PSK (AES) have been added as security methods that can be used with [AOSS™] under [Automatic].*
* If you have already set up for AOSS using an earlier version of the system software, you must perform AOSS setup again to use the security methods listed above.
* When [Automatic] is selected, the security method to be used is automatically set.
* AOSS is a trademark of Buffalo, Inc.
Game
New for 1.51: Support for PLAYSTATION®3 format software titles has been expanded.
Friends
The method for saving your password / signing in automatically under PLAYSTATION®Network has been changed. There are now two separate options.
Other
You can now enter text in Korean using the on-screen keyboard

"Support for PLAYSTATION®3 format software titles has been expanded."

I found out what that does, you can now select up to 7 controller ports. Try starting any game, hold the PS button and scroll through the # of controller ports.

[Sgt_Strider]

Doesn't necessarily mean a price drop at all.

True.

The 65nm manufacturing process will save Sony money though.

[rdtx2002]

True.

The 65nm manufacturing process will save Sony money though.

which will 'eventually' mean a price cut

[Yesdear]

Hm, i wonder if i should sell my PS3 at a loss and just wait these 65nm ps3's out.
Likely they'll use up less juice and put out less heat.


I am in the same boat but for the simple reason I am board with the system. I am only playing PS2 games and the odd PS3 demo. I'm not saying it's a poor system, just that I should have waited until the library was built up. As for Blueray, I am not investing any cash in either format. Having movie titles on just one format or the other is completely ridicules.

[ledorky]

I am in the same boat but for the simple reason I am board with the system. I am only playing PS2 games and the odd PS3 demo. I'm not saying it's a poor system, just that I should have waited until the library was built up. As for Blueray, I am not investing any cash in either format. Having movie titles on just one format or the other is completely ridicules.

Yea same here. Basically I paid for "potential." Currently, no ifs and or buts about it, the system's software SUCKS. Only the die-hard SDFs will say different. If it could upscale the PS2 games or filter it a bit more to reduce jaggies maybe I'd turn it on more and play the PS2 games on it instead but the games look the same (used to look worse till the 1.5 update) and lack the rumble feature. Slow built-in browser and I can run Linux faster on my ancient xp 2500+ machine. Time to put this large monstrosity up on Craigslist.

[Sgt_Strider]

which will 'eventually' mean a price cut


There is certainly the possibility that there will eventually be a price drop, but it will definitely have more to do with market conditions than the shrinking in manufacturing process.

[GunnerX]

The only time SONY will drop the price on the PS3 is when:

a. Blu Ray wins
b. They will make money on each system sold

As of now, they don't want to lose even more sales on stand alone BR players and they're losing too much on each system sold right now. The system just came out, I doubt there will be a price decrease within the first year.

[ledorky]

The only time SONY will drop the price on the PS3 is when:

a. Blu Ray wins
b. They will make money on each system sold

As of now, they don't want to lose even more sales on stand alone BR players and they're losing too much on each system sold right now. The system just came out, I doubt there will be a price decrease within the first year.

You forgot option C: It's not selling.

This is currently happening in Japan right now. Wii and DS Lite selling out while the PSP and PS3 sit on the shelves. Last week, 20K sales. Not good. It's definitely selling in Canada still and some parts of the US as well despite the lack of decent software. So no, I doubt our region will se a pricedrop at all for a looooong while. We have enough die-hard Sony fanboys as well as enough HD freaks that want a cheap Blu-Ray player. Japan is another story.

BTW, London Drugs also now has it at $699 so if you're interested in a PS3, you'd better hunt in places that still sell it at $659. It looks like prices ARE going up despite what Sony claims is the MSRP.

[Sgt_Strider]

So is it possible that the 20GB version is now being phased out?

You know, to be honest I'm not really that concerned about the price increase in Canada. I can always buy it in the U.S and bring it back over the border.

[jeffyjaixx]

So is it possible that the 20GB version is now being phased out?

You know, to be honest I'm not really that concerned about the price increase in Canada. I can always buy it in the U.S and bring it back over the border.

Definitely seeing fewer and fewer of these 20gb units...

[The Digital Dolphin]

So is it possible that the 20GB version is now being phased out?

You know, to be honest I'm not really that concerned about the price increase in Canada. I can always buy it in the U.S and bring it back over the border.

Umm, last I checked $600 USD -> ~$714-$720 CAD. Are you *SURE* you want to import it from the USA?

[sfu_lifer]

Woot! Kotaku is reporting there will be a Killzone 2 beta right when the Halo 3 beta rolls around.
Can't wait. IMO, Halo 3 looks like total ass compared to GOW. I hope KZ2 matches GOW graphically. That would keep my PS3 busy, that's for sure.

[GunnerX]

Yay! Another Halo Killer app!! Killzone was most definitely THE Halo Killer App. Nice to see they are releasing the sequel just in time to squash Halo 3.

[Driftwood]

Yay! Another Halo Killer app!! Killzone was most definitely THE Halo Killer App. Nice to see they are releasing the sequel just in time to squash Halo 3.

Killzone was hardly a Halo Killer app...

http://ps2.ign.com/articles/561/561669p1.html

[sfu_lifer]

Yay! Another Halo Killer app!! Killzone was most definitely THE Halo Killer App. Nice to see they are releasing the sequel just in time to squash Halo 3.

As a PS3 owner, we'll take any scraps at the moment :cheesygri

[jerryhussain]

Woot! Kotaku is reporting there will be a Killzone 2 beta right when the Halo 3 beta rolls around.
Can't wait. IMO, Halo 3 looks like total ass compared to GOW. I hope KZ2 matches GOW graphically. That would keep my PS3 busy, that's for sure.
Its a KillZone 2 Demo. ;) Luke Smith from 1Up thinks thats the case though no one else is betting on it. Would be a pretty big surprise if it happens.

It'd be pretty interesting since so far we've heard from Sony is that it has already exceed that CG trailer :cheesygri

[jeffyjaixx]

Its a KillZone 2 Demo. ;) Luke Smith from 1Up thinks thats the case though no one else is betting on it. Would be a pretty big surprise if it happens.

It'd be pretty interesting since so far we've heard from Sony is that it has already exceed that CG trailer :cheesygri

I'd be satisfied knowing that it will have 90% of the trailer quality.

[jerryhussain]

http://i7.tinypic.com/2qjm99f.png (http://www.us.playstation.com/flOw/)

[kingsley]

You forgot option C: It's not selling.

This is currently happening in Japan right now. Wii and DS Lite selling out while the PSP and PS3 sit on the shelves. Last week, 20K sales. Not good. It's definitely selling in Canada still and some parts of the US as well despite the lack of decent software. So no, I doubt our region will se a pricedrop at all for a looooong while. We have enough die-hard Sony fanboys as well as enough HD freaks that want a cheap Blu-Ray player. Japan is another story.

BTW, London Drugs also now has it at $699 so if you're interested in a PS3, you'd better hunt in places that still sell it at $659. It looks like prices ARE going up despite what Sony claims is the MSRP.

Is it true? The PS3 *isn't* selling out in Japan? Japan, being the country that had $199 XBox 360s because no one was buying it because everybody was waiting for the PS3? That Japan? That's sucks for Sony.

[jerryhussain]

Is it true? The PS3 *isn't* selling out in Japan? Japan, being the country that had $199 XBox 360s because no one was buying it because everybody was waiting for the PS3? That Japan? That's sucks for Sony.
Four Wii units sold for every PlayStation 3 in Japan (http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=22595)

[Driftwood]

Four Wii units sold for every PlayStation 3 in Japan (http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=22595)

I love Sony's response to the Wii outselling the PS3...

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=22506

[ShadowVlican]

I love Sony's response to the Wii outselling the PS3...

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=22506
lemme guess.... the impulse buy?

i see nothing wrong with being an impulse buy... in fact i'd prefer all corporations that sell products follow suit..

[Sgt_Strider]

Umm, last I checked $600 USD -> ~$714-$720 CAD. Are you *SURE* you want to import it from the USA?

I still have US currencies that I bought when it was at a high of 90 cents. Yes it would be expensive now if I were to buy US currency now, but I bought more than I needed then and I'm glad that I did.

[kevin01]

Four Wii units sold for every PlayStation 3 in Japan (http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=22595)

yeah becuase theres 4 more wiis being manufactured for every ps3

[rahzel]

this seems to be kinda like the official ps3 thread, so ill post this here.

apparently, Oblivion runs and looks better on the ps3. also, the load times are actually faster (probably because they had to duplicate data).

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/762/762108p1.html

[Driftwood]

this seems to be kinda like the official ps3 thread, so ill post this here.

apparently, Oblivion runs and looks better on the ps3. also, the load times are actually faster (probably because they had to duplicate data).

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/762/762108p1.html

Oblivion came out almost a year ago for the 360, it better look nicer.

[numb555]

Oblivion came out almost a year ago for the 360, it better look nicer.

But there are ports that look better on the 360 that are a year old.

Its just how the developers are utilizing each system's power. I dont' think there's anything conclusive until we reach the 2nd or 3rd gen of games.

[rahzel]

Oblivion came out almost a year ago for the 360, it better look nicer.
oblivion is a pretty demanding game, graphically (probably one of the most demanding PC games to date). people were doubting the ps3, and this IS a port. ports usually automatically look worse.

the ps3 did get some extra dev time, but this was probably needed simply because the complexity of the ps3's hardware. games will be easier to develop for the ps3 once the dev tools mature, though.

this is good news for ps3 owners nonetheless.

[jeffyjaixx]

Some new screens of Oblivion for PS3:

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n95/Kninjaman/the-elder-scrolls-iv-oblivion-20-5.jpg

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n95/Kninjaman/the-elder-scrolls-iv-oblivion-20-4.jpg

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n95/Kninjaman/the-elder-scrolls-iv-oblivion-20-3.jpg

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n95/Kninjaman/the-elder-scrolls-iv-oblivion-20-2.jpg

[jerryhussain]

this seems to be kinda like the official ps3 thread, so ill post this here.

apparently, Oblivion runs and looks better on the ps3. also, the load times are actually faster (probably because they had to duplicate data).

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/762/762108p1.html
They are using a new renderer which will be used for 360 in the expansion pack Shivering Isles. On the same note, the PS3 version (Oblivion) has a technical limitation (lesser memory) to load items.

This was reported on the latest 1UP show (#63).

[sfu_lifer]

Old game. Don't care for Oblivion at all.
I didn't think it looked that hot on the 360, PS3 doesn't look any better to me.
Bring on MGS4 and Lair :D

As for the Wii, what an impulse buy. They're manufacturing more than the PS3 AND they're still selling out while the PS3 sits on shelves in Japan (and the US). Canada still seems to be PS3-starved based on my conversations with various EB Games and Superstore staff (not quite the Wii 30-minute-frenzy-once-stock-comes-in but it still does sell out thru the day, prolly the $659 price has something to do with it ;)).

[Beradon]

lemme guess.... the impulse buy?

i see nothing wrong with being an impulse buy... in fact i'd prefer all corporations that sell products follow suit..I also think that if Sony wanted to, they can easily come out with their own 'Wii' like features. People are forgetting that the Eye toy first came out for the PS2. Sony could release a special accessory kit that includes a camera plus a couple of interactive controllers and Nintendo will now have some serious problems.

[BigBadBoo]

Old game. Don't care for Oblivion at all.
I didn't think it looked that hot on the 360, PS3 doesn't look any better to me.
Bring on MGS4 and Lair :D


Oblivion looks amazing on my PC, and looked pretty good on the 360. I think its a technological feat to have so much stuff drawn (like in the forest areas) and still look fantastic.

[joshmxpx]

yeah becuase theres 4 more wiis being manufactured for every ps3

it doesn't matter how many are being manufactured when ps3s are sitting on store shelves and no ones buying them. You can't use the stock excuse anymore for this, because anyone can now get a ps3 from a store if they choose to.

They are using a new renderer which will be used for 360 in the expansion pack Shivering Isles. On the same note, the PS3 version (Oblivion) has a technical limitation (lesser memory) to load items.

This also means that many of the extras that will be included in the 360 expansion pack (horse armour, extra quests, spells, etc) that were downloadable content before will not work on the ps3 and as such will not be included in the ps3 version of the shivering isles.

Also, it was noted that a patch has been created for the 360 version that upgrades the rendering engine and makes the draw distance a little nicer, much like the ps3 version.

[Tanith]

Well, my ps3 officially died today>:( Im gonna have to contact Sony to know their procedure in this case. Anyone got a bad ps3 like i did? (i used my ps3 for a total of 30hours since nov 17)

Hope their service is good...

[Badman]

Well, my ps3 officially died today>:( Im gonna have to contact Sony to know their procedure in this case. Anyone got a bad ps3 like i did? (i used my ps3 for a total of 30hours since nov 17)

Hope their service is good...

Woah sucks for you.....How did it happen?

[jeffyjaixx]

Well, my ps3 officially died today>:( Im gonna have to contact Sony to know their procedure in this case. Anyone got a bad ps3 like i did? (i used my ps3 for a total of 30hours since nov 17)

Hope their service is good...

wow, sorry to hear. How did it happen?

[Tanith]

wow, sorry to hear. How did it happen?

after 2 hours of playing Resistance, i shut down my ps3... came back one hour later and i tried to turn it on, only to receive a flashing red light :|

[sfu_lifer]

after 2 hours of playing Resistance, i shut down my ps3... came back one hour later and i tried to turn it on, only to receive a flashing red light :|
Was your PS3 enclosed? Like my 360, mine is in the open air. The PS3 heats up like a SOB in the back (pretty fast too, much faster than the 360).

[BigBadBoo]

after 2 hours of playing Resistance, i shut down my ps3... came back one hour later and i tried to turn it on, only to receive a flashing red light :|

Try disconnecting everything and reconnecting. It worked on the 360 for me.

[preelude]

anyone know how to identify a jap/usa ps3 from the box?

[kcjchan]

anyone know how to identify a jap/usa ps3 from the box?

The region code?

[Tanith]

Try disconnecting everything and reconnecting. It worked on the 360 for me.

i tried that the first time, didnt work, thank though

Now i know that my ps3 wont be back from the dead, i just tried to boot it again, no more red flashing, it doesnt boot anymore (no light came on) lol

[preelude]

The region code?

what does the region code look like for US and JAP models

[kcjchan]

what does the region code look like for US and JAP models

Sorry I was wrong, the region code in Japan and North America is the same for Blue Ray. You can check the side of the box. The Japan one would most definitely have Japanese writing on it.

[sfu_lifer]

Sorry I was wrong, the region code in Japan and North America is the same for Blue Ray. You can check the side of the box. The Japan one would most definitely have Japanese writing on it.

Ya my US model doesn't have any J writing on it AFAIK. Ask them to open it and pop in a US PS2 disc or a US movie :D

[jeffyjaixx]

i tried that the first time, didnt work, thank though

Now i know that my ps3 wont be back from the dead, i just tried to boot it again, no more red flashing, it doesnt boot anymore (no light came on) lol

Let us know how it goes with the Sony exchanging thing. Good luck.

[sfu_lifer]

Let us know how it goes with the Sony exchanging thing. Good luck.
Yea for sure. I had problems with my ps2 and psp before and they always claim no wrongdoing (even though many others had the same problems). I eventually gave up and went to the store and browbeat them into a replacement :mad:
I wanna know if they've improved since then (also this is a $600 piece of machinery, there better be some decent warranty/service).

[redflagdeals4u]

works great. Nice to surf with a real web browser and send email. Using the logitech bluetooth keyboard and mouse. Haven't tried any media like Divx yet but plan too very soon.

[Jaytee]

Toys R Us has PS3 remotes for $35 regular price. Save $5 over other places.

Just bought one today.

[Tanith]

Yea for sure. I had problems with my ps2 and psp before and they always claim no wrongdoing (even though many others had the same problems). I eventually gave up and went to the store and browbeat them into a replacement :mad:
I wanna know if they've improved since then (also this is a $600 piece of machinery, there better be some decent warranty/service).

I finally called Sony, to my surprise, it did go very well! After some questions (did you try another plug on your ps3, did your ps3 fall in a liquid substance? WTF??? ...) The guy told me that they'll send me a purolator box that i should receive in one or two days. I have to return all that was in the box except promotional dvd or marchandise (they probably dont want Talladega night either). Total time from shipping my box to receive another one should be 5 to 7 days.

[sfu_lifer]

I finally called Sony, to my surprise, it did go very well! After some questions (did you try another plug on your ps3, did your ps3 fall in a liquid substance? WTF??? ...) The guy told me that they'll send me a purolator box that i should receive in one or two days. I have to return all that was in the box except promotional dvd or marchandise (they probably dont want Talladega night either). Total time from shipping my box to receive another one should be 5 to 7 days.
Cool that's good to know in case I ever have problems I hope i get the same service. Let us know if it goes according to what they promised.

[mapleflag]

I finally called Sony, to my surprise, it did go very well! After some questions (did you try another plug on your ps3, did your ps3 fall in a liquid substance? WTF??? ...) The guy told me that they'll send me a purolator box that i should receive in one or two days. I have to return all that was in the box except promotional dvd or marchandise (they probably dont want Talladega night either). Total time from shipping my box to receive another one should be 5 to 7 days.
Hi Tanith, happy to know you are getting a replacement. (Maybe we should play with ours more often to make sure it's a keeper).

[jeffyjaixx]

I finally called Sony, to my surprise, it did go very well! After some questions (did you try another plug on your ps3, did your ps3 fall in a liquid substance? WTF??? ...) The guy told me that they'll send me a purolator box that i should receive in one or two days. I have to return all that was in the box except promotional dvd or marchandise (they probably dont want Talladega night either). Total time from shipping my box to receive another one should be 5 to 7 days.

Nice. Hopefully you don't have to wait that long to play again. hehe.

[kevin01]

has anyone used the $10 of a bd movie that you get with the ps3? Theres a link to the website, but forgot it. I think its in the manual or in one of the other pages you get too, just too lazy too look.

[jeffyjaixx]

has anyone used the $10 of a bd movie that you get with the ps3? Theres a link to the website, but forgot it. I think its in the manual or in one of the other pages you get too, just too lazy too look.

No I haven't, is it in any retail store that sells bd's?

[kevin01]

No I haven't, is it in any retail store that sells bd's?

here found the link:

http://www.blu-raymovierebate.com/ps_movies.html

[GunnerX]

here found the link:

http://www.blu-raymovierebate.com/ps_movies.html

I think that's only available in the US. The coupon is supposed to come in the PS3 box. Wasn't in mine. :(

[sfu_lifer]

I think that's only available in the US. The coupon is supposed to come in the PS3 box. Wasn't in mine. :(
Ya mine had no coupons as well. Did I get gypped?

[rdtx2002]

P L A Y S T A T I O N 3

- Sony Pictures' Yair Landau confirmed that Sony Online Entertainment is working on a new MMORPG for PlayStation 3, the game will have a theme of espionage.<----- Syphon Filter anyone?

- EGM reported that Wipeout for PS3 will utilize the MotorStorm engine, the game will appear in 2007.

- Insomniac Games announced that a new installment of Ratchet & Clank for PS3 will be revealed next month.

- Bandai Namco has postponed the release date of the PS3 fighting game Tekken 6 in US in 2008, which means the game may hit Japan by the end of this year the earliest.

[kevin01]

MLB 2k7 on march 5th. Ill probably be getting it. Sixaxis is used, for batting only though.

[onyx]

i heard that playstation 3 gives problems like sometimes the a doesn't read the cd cuz it's 2 fast our sumthing watever Xbox360 is the best

[VivaLaDave]

i heard that playstation 3 gives problems like sometimes the a doesn't read the cd cuz it's 2 fast our sumthing watever Xbox360 is the best

Say what??

I did not understand a word of that. Can anyone make it out? :confused:

[jeffyjaixx]

i heard that playstation 3 gives problems like sometimes the a doesn't read the cd cuz it's 2 fast our sumthing watever Xbox360 is the best

LOL. First, write your messages properly.

Second, no such problem.

Actually, in terms of problems, Xbox 360 has way more than PS3 ie. scratching of discs, three red lights of death, disc drive sounds like a lawnmower, overheating problems to name a few.

[rdtx2002]

i heard that playstation 3 gives problems like sometimes the a doesn't read the cd cuz it's 2 fast our sumthing watever Xbox360 is the best

and the Xbox360 overheats.. big whoopie do....

go back to where you came from newb..

[Vertigo]

i heard that playstation 3 gives problems like sometimes the a doesn't read the cd cuz it's 2 fast our sumthing watever Xbox360 is the best
This is obviously a post made in jest or as flamebait...

I hope - for your sake, that is.

[kcjchan]

i heard that playstation 3 gives problems like sometimes the a doesn't read the cd cuz it's 2 fast our sumthing watever Xbox360 is the best

Say what??

I did not understand a word of that. Can anyone make it out? :confused:

He said he heard that weed gives problems like sometimes his messages can't be read properly (by others) because he's typing too fast or something however weed is the best.

[AnthraX]

LOL. First, write your messages properly.

Second, no such problem.

Actually, in terms of problems, Xbox 360 has way more than PS3 ie. scratching of discs, three red lights of death, disc drive sounds like a lawnmower, overheating problems to name a few.

Both have problems, btw this is the sound of a lawnmower (http://youtube.com/watch?v=_gUOE48UVeU).

[jeffyjaixx]

Both have problems, btw this is the sound of a lawnmower (http://youtube.com/watch?v=_gUOE48UVeU).

dude, one word: bootleg.

This is actually the first time I've heard of this since the launch of ps3 lol, Heavens knows what that guy did with his ps3.

Besides every 1 in a million PS3 mess ups, what other problems are there?

[VivaLaDave]

He said he heard that weed gives problems like sometimes his messages can't be read properly (by others) because he's typing too fast or something however weed is the best.

Sounds like he's a prime candidate for Biovail testing. LOL

[jerryhussain]

dude, one word: bootleg.

This is actually the first time I've heard of this since the launch of ps3 lol, Heavens knows what that guy did with his ps3.

Besides every 1 in a million PS3 mess ups, what other problems are there?
360 has been out for longer, so there are more number of reported problems.

Anthrax's right, both have problems.

[jeffyjaixx]

360 has been out for longer, so there are more number of reported problems.

Anthrax's right, both have problems.

I seriously have not encountered any serious PS3 problems when I'm surfing.

Only one worthy of mentioning is the controller's bluetooth wireless connection being dropped for 1-2 seconds.

Anthrax's youtube video was the first one for me.

[sfu_lifer]

360 has been out for longer, so there are more number of reported problems.
I don't think that's quite true in terms of %s. This is the first Sony console launch in memory with actual quality units. Back when the 360 first launched, I knew about 15 360 owners and within 3 months, 5 have had units replaced. So far out of 10 PS3 acquaintances, no problems reported thus far other than that idiotic bluetooth controller of theirs losing connection Sixaxis is so poorly designed. I hate having to plug that thing in every gaming session (I don't game too much on the PS3) since it either loses connection or Sony has yet released another update. Lame.

[AnthraX]

dude, one word: bootleg.

This is actually the first time I've heard of this since the launch of ps3 lol, Heavens knows what that guy did with his ps3.

Besides every 1 in a million PS3 mess ups, what other problems are there?

http://youtube.com/results?search_query=ps3+problem&search=Search

[jeffyjaixx]

http://youtube.com/results?search_query=ps3+problem&search=Search

Most of those are TV problems. The BC issue has been fixed. The only one I would acknowledge is the one where the guy's resistance had green blobs as fire lol. But those are mainly present on the 20GB model.

Seriously, the only real problems from PS3 were on the first page (and a few on the second).

The rest are just normal ps3 tribute videos etc.

You can't deny the fact that MS 360's had way more problems than PS3 this time around. Consoles freezing in games, 3 red rings of death, over heating problems, basically breaking down and having to do an exchange.

PS3 problems are rare, if it's one thing Sony did right, that's the hardware quality.

[kevin01]

http://youtube.com/results?search_query=ps3+problem&search=Search

you might want to post this along with it

http://youtube.com/results?search_query=xbox+360+problem&search=Search


and about the modding. I dont think that the 360 had a chip 4 months in either. And plus the PS3 wont need a chip or anything... ISO LOADER!! thats the best part of getting linux or something else.

And those of you with linux, you can now copy the BD to your hard drive. I dont know when this was able to be done, but i just found out how to do it today. Ur gonna need a bigger hard drive if u want a few.

[Emancipated]

you might want to post this along with it

http://youtube.com/results?search_query=xbox+360+problem&search=Search

and about the modding. I dont think that the 360 had a chip 4 months in either. And plus the PS3 wont need a chip or anything... ISO LOADER!! thats the best part of getting linux or something else.

And those of you with linux, you can now copy the BD to your hard drive. I dont know when this was able to be done, but i just found out how to do it today. Ur gonna need a bigger hard drive if u want a few.

Does this mean ISO Loader will be able to load up games from the HD? I missed the PS2 modding revolution but heard this and that about ISOLoader being great in preserving the optical life of PS2s.

If that's the case, then the PS3 has just got new life breath into it. :D

Anyone playing F1 Champion Edition yet? Wanna compare some lap times? Monza- 126.xx so far
Cataluna -120.xx

Both with Ferrari w/ Schumacher.

[sfu_lifer]

Does this mean ISO Loader will be able to load up games from the HD? I missed the PS2 modding revolution but heard this and that about ISOLoader being great in preserving the optical life of PS2s.

If that's the case, then the PS3 has just got new life breath into it. :D

Anyone playing F1 Champion Edition yet? Wanna compare some lap times? Monza- 126.xx so far
Cataluna -120.xx

Both with Ferrari w/ Schumacher.
The PS2 HDLoader is great. Only some games have problems (see FFXII) but most worked fine and loaded a helluva lot faster. Be prepared to buy a new HD if you're gonna go this route. Hopefully they will release the loader. I'm gonna unhook my PS3 from the Internet in the meantime now that I'm bored playing Resistance.
That F1 game disappointed me so much. Graphically, it's very meh. I'm glad I rented it.

[Emancipated]

The PS2 HDLoader is great. Only some games have problems (see FFXII) but most worked fine and loaded a helluva lot faster. Be prepared to buy a new HD if you're gonna go this route. Hopefully they will release the loader. I'm gonna unhook my PS3 from the Internet in the meantime now that I'm bored playing Resistance.
That F1 game disappointed me so much. Graphically, it's very meh. I'm glad I rented it.

How did you rent it? I got the import from HK, but this version does not have online play which half the fun, imo.

I agree with the graphics. It looked bomb in previews but even titles on the PC look close to the almighty PS3's graphical prowess. One word: rFactor.

[kevin01]

if you guys want to use the ISO loader when it comes out, i hope you didnt update past v1.32. if you did you might be out of luck when the first one comes out

[Ben31]

if you guys want to use the ISO loader when it comes out, i hope you didnt update past v1.32. if you did you might be out of luck when the first one comes out

A little birdy...:D ....has told me that there are some testing to be done with the PS3 v1.50 and v1.51 Firmware with the PDX ISO loader very soon...and the birdy will tell me of the results.

[FooNdaR]

A little birdy...:D ....has told me that there are some testing to be done with the PS3 v1.50 and v1.51 Firmware with the PDX ISO loader very soon...and the birdy will tell me of the results.

That birdy has a big mouth...http://www.ps3news.com/forums/site-news/weekend-news-pdx-ps3-tests-psp-files-54303.html

[Badman]

Just got the BD remote for the ps3. Payed $25US and i think its worth every penny. It really looks nice and so far no problems. I just don't like how its so long but most controllers are long anyways. Really worth it for $25US and its even worth it for $40CAN, just that your paying so much more over here.

I'd advise anyone who uses a ps3 for more than just games to get one. it navigates through all your music/Hard drive movies and the menus so well.

Hope this helps your purchase:)

[Ben31]

That birdy has a big mouth...http://www.ps3news.com/forums/site-news/weekend-news-pdx-ps3-tests-psp-files-54303.html

Actually word is from Team Xecuter(I think you know them :D)...since they will be releasing the PS3 hyperdrive and an adapter to work with the PDX ISO loader...they already know that it does work with firmwares 1.32 and below...but again...more testing needs to be done with higher firmwares(v1.50 and v1.51 Firmware)...the PS3 PDX ISO loader is rumored to be released around the same time if not..a little bit after the release of the PS3 in Europe.

[Emancipated]

Actually word is from Team Xecuter(I think you know them :D)...since they will be releasing the PS3 hyperdrive and an adapter to work with the PDX ISO loader...they already know that it does work with firmwares 1.32 and below...but again...more testing needs to be done with higher firmwares(v1.50 and v1.51 Firmware)...the PS3 PDX ISO loader is rumored to be released around the same time if not..a little bit after the release of the PS3 in Europe.


What's the point of pursuing this futile game if Sony plans on releasing updates that cause incompatibilities with the mod chip? Reminds me of Counter-Strike:Source. I was too cheap to buy the game and vALVE was relentless in "countering" the hacking scene. After update 13 or so, I was fed up and gave up on it.

[bmaz]

People need to remember the demise of the Sega Dreamcast.
It was ahead of it's time, but eventually lack of support was it's downfall.
if someone has already spent over $700 for this system, you might as well purchase some games to encourage the game developers to make more.

[sfu_lifer]

People need to remember the demise of the Sega Dreamcast.
It was ahead of it's time, but eventually lack of support was it's downfall.
if someone has already spent over $700 for this system, you might as well purchase some games to encourage the game developers to make more.

Cos some people will never pay for anything if they can avoid it. I missed the days of expensive cart copiers so that a very tiny usually Asian crowd could afford it (or knew about it). People either rented or saved money to buy games.

[BigBadBoo]

If the game is worth it, then show your support and buy it. Or wait till it gets cheaper, or buy it, play it, and sell it to someone else.

[Sgt_Strider]

I got some questions regarding the 20GB version of the PS3. Since it doesn't have wifi, is it possible for me to connect it to the computer and get wifi like that?

For those that are wondering, I'm planning to place the PS3 near my computer and I figure I'll just take a short LAN cable and plug it into my computer and maybe get wifi like that, but I'm not sure if it'll work.

Also, can I get sound by connect the audio connection to a soundcard?

[jeffyjaixx]

I got some questions regarding the 20GB version of the PS3. Since it doesn't have wifi, is it possible for me to connect it to the computer and get wifi like that?

For those that are wondering, I'm planning to place the PS3 near my computer and I figure I'll just take a short LAN cable and plug it into my computer and maybe get wifi like that, but I'm not sure if it'll work.

Also, can I get sound by connect the audio connection to a soundcard?

Is your computer connected via wifi or ethernet cable?

If ethernet cable, you can just switch from the computer to the PS3 when you play online or something :lol:.

Yes you can get sound by plugging into a soundcard if it has an optical input.

[Sgt_Strider]

Is your computer connected via wifi or ethernet cable?

If ethernet cable, you can just switch from the computer to the PS3 when you play online or something :lol:.

Yes you can get sound by plugging into a soundcard if it has an optical input.

Currently my desktop is connected via ethernet, but I'm planning to migrate to wifi once my midterms are over.

My soundcard is currently connected to some Logitech analog speakers. Will it have any sound output even if the PS3 is connected to my computer via the Optical input?

[hyperion]

Do you guys ever talk about actual games and stuff in this thread? Every time I open it to the last page to see if you are discussing a cool new game, its always some hardware issue/discussion. More technology = more problems? No I am not a xbox fanboy, I am a Sony fanboy and love the Gran Turismo series.

[rdtx2002]

Do you guys ever talk about actual games and stuff in this thread? Every time I open it to the last page to see if you are discussing a cool new game, its always some hardware issue/discussion. More technology = more problems? No I am not a xbox fanboy, I am a Sony fanboy and love the Gran Turismo series.

considering the lack of games.......... ;)

it'll pick up in March

[AlphaTwo]

considering the lack of games.......... ;)

it'll pick up in MarchWhat's out by march? Don't say motorstorm, cause I'm not impressed by it at all.

[CFRTim]

Do you guys ever talk about actual games and stuff in this thread? Every time I open it to the last page to see if you are discussing a cool new game, its always some hardware issue/discussion. More technology = more problems? No I am not a xbox fanboy, I am a Sony fanboy and love the Gran Turismo series.
Mmmmmm.... Gran Turismo...... when it comes out, it will be the day I will buy my PS3. Of course, by then it will be a lot cheaper and less problematic
And NO, some don't care about games, here is an example:


I'm having loads of fun with my PS3 and I don't even have any games for it yet.

[Beradon]

What's the point of pursuing this futile game if Sony plans on releasing updates that cause incompatibilities with the mod chip? There are several reasons really. If you had the choice of running your games completely from the HD or the disc drive, the majority would choose the former. Not only will it save tremendously on loading times but it will protect the disc itself from potential scratches.
Also many PS2 users were none too please with their disc drives failing not long after their warranty expired and often resulted in expensive repairs or console replacement.
The advantages is these mod chips can open up the system for other uses. The xbox had the ability to load other OS' and essentially be turned into a fully functioning computer.
If these game companies would only offer these capabilities out of the box and extensive warranties for their consoles and discs, we wouldn't have a secondary market for these mod chips. ;)

[rdtx2002]

What's out by march? Don't say motorstorm, cause I'm not impressed by it at all.


If you don't like it, that is your problem ;)

Motorstorm
F1 Championship
VF5
Tekken5
Flow
College Hoops
Baseball
NBA Street
Def Jam
F.E.A.R
Virtua Tennis 3
Spinter Cell: Double Agent
All Star Yakyuken Battle ;)
Gundam Mosou
Winning Post 7
Armoured Core 4

[jeffyjaixx]

If you don't like it, that is your problem ;)

Motorstorm
F1 Championship
VF5
Tekken5
Flow
College Hoops
Baseball
NBA Street
Def Jam
F.E.A.R
Virtua Tennis 3
Spinter Cell: Double Agent
All Star Yakyuken Battle ;)
Gundam Mosou
Winning Post 7
Armoured Core 4

You forgot Calling All Cars :lol:

[jeffyjaixx]

Currently my desktop is connected via ethernet, but I'm planning to migrate to wifi once my midterms are over.

My soundcard is currently connected to some Logitech analog speakers. Will it have any sound output even if the PS3 is connected to my computer via the Optical input?

Oh that's great, you can use the ethernet cable for the PS3 then and the wifi for your computer.

Hmm, not really sure about the sound part. If you have an optical input for the sound card, it should work.

[sfu_lifer]

I got some questions regarding the 20GB version of the PS3. Since it doesn't have wifi, is it possible for me to connect it to the computer and get wifi like that?

For those that are wondering, I'm planning to place the PS3 near my computer and I figure I'll just take a short LAN cable and plug it into my computer and maybe get wifi like that, but I'm not sure if it'll work.

Also, can I get sound by connect the audio connection to a soundcard?
Sure, just use a crossover cable and the built-in Windows Internet Connection sharing. I do this with my 360 all the time (hooked up to my laptop).
As for why the technical side keeps popping up? Because Sony said this would be 2x the 360 and right now, it's not even matching the 360's best. Gamers are having a pretty go at Sony right now (and deservedly so after all the crap FUD campaign plus arrogance they've been running since they've had little substance to show).

[sfu_lifer]

Sweet! Sony throws us a bone with God of War 2.
720p upscaling support. Some folks said the textures were reworked but I sure don't see that in the 720p screenshots.

[JayPatel]

Sweet! Sony throws us a bone with God of War 2.
720p upscaling support. Some folks said the textures were reworked but I sure don't see that in the 720p screenshots.

Finally, the PS3 gets its system seller :)

[veejam]

but its really a ps2 game! its going to be a really crazy game though.

i have a ps3 and i have no ps3 games at all right now, i've been playing ff12 for the past month with it...i will probably get virtua fighter 5 and motorstorm just so i can finally say that i have some ps3 games.

[Marlek]

Sweet! Sony throws us a bone with God of War 2.
720p upscaling support. Some folks said the textures were reworked but I sure don't see that in the 720p screenshots.

That's great news, if true. Do you have a link to support this?

edit: Never mind... found it. It's mentioned in the IGN Review

http://ps2.ign.com/articles/763/763624p3.html

[Vertigo]

All Star Yakyuken Battle

This has system seller written all over it. :lol:

[sfu_lifer]

but its really a ps2 game! its going to be a really crazy game though.

i have a ps3 and i have no ps3 games at all right now, i've been playing ff12 for the past month with it...i will probably get virtua fighter 5 and motorstorm just so i can finally say that i have some ps3 games.

How can you not have Resistance FoM? And at least download the demos :D

[jeffyjaixx]

How can you not have Resistance FoM? And at least download the demos :D

Yeah, go get Resistance:FOM to tide you over for now :lol:

[rdtx2002]

Register Your Euro PS3 and get Casino Royale
Stakes are high for first 500,000 to register on PlayStation Network.
by Rob Burman, IGN UK
UK, February 12, 2007 - Bond's gone all Blu-ray for the European launch of PS3. The first half a million console owners that register for the PlayStation Network will be rewarded with a Blu-ray version of his latest martini-swigging gun shooting flick Casino Royale.

While it might have missed out on Best Picture award at last night's BAFTAs, Casino Royale is still the most successful Bond film of all time - grossing more than $560 million at the box office.

For the Blu-ray release you get a "ground breaking collection of added-value features in 1080p high definition visual quality, and with uncompressed audio features for the best possible audio experience". Plus, if you're so inclined, you can keep looking at that bit where Daniel Craig goes topless.

Darren Carter, VP brand and consumer marketing said: "We are offering the phenomenal incentive of Casino Royale, on Blu-ray disc, to PS3 owners who register on the PlayStation Network. Casino Royale not only makes the most of the features and capabilities of the Blu-ray format, but is one of the most exciting and entertaining movies to debut on Blu-ray this year." Yeah, if you don't count 50 First Dates!


















Comment: well.. at least we know for sure there will be 500,000 new Ps3 owners

[BigBadBoo]

For the Blu-ray release you get a "ground breaking collection of added-value features in 1080p...



For some reason, my mind read that as "ground breaking collection of dust..." I should stop before the wrath of the PS3 fanboys attack me.

[FooNdaR]

For some reason, my mind read that as "ground breaking collection of dust..." I should stop before the wrath of the PS3 fanboys attack me.

That is inevitable.

I have giving up on the PS3. I had one since launch, and tried to hold out, hoping it would improve, but it promises nothing.

I am going back to the 360.

[jerryhussain]

Editor's Correction: After posting the review, we've gotten word from an SCEA representative that the game will support 480p on the PlayStation 3 but not 720p. Our error was due to crossed information and we're sorry for the confusion. We will report back once we have the final copy in our hands.
:|

[BigBadBoo]

They couldn't set the resolution to 1280x720 by checking if its being run on PS3? Actually, its probably because they never developed it to that specification. They would need higher res textures and models to make it look good in higher res. Its either that, or their 'dvd' cannot hold any more data. :lol: Sony fanboys would pick the latter no?

[sfu_lifer]

That is inevitable.

I have giving up on the PS3. I had one since launch, and tried to hold out, hoping it would improve, but it promises nothing.

I am going back to the 360.

I'm using it mainly as Blu-Ray player for now. PS2 is still hooked up to the TV since I don't want unnecessary wear and tear on the Blu-Ray drive. Once you're bored of Resistance, there's not much left. I've played thru all the available demos. It's really no wonder why the attach rate is so low currently. I've only bought 3 games (sold the other two a week later) and don't foresee buying any new titles till at least Lair comes out.
The 360 definitely spoils you with the Achievement points adding some extra motivation to play thru games esp for the xbox live arcade stuff not to mention all the voice chat stuff in-game.
The PS3 has a loooong way to go to establish an online gaming community which is one of the great things about Xbox Live.
But hey, we knew what we were getting into when we bought this shiny beast. The 360 also had a drought but the online play kind of sated most of the complaining.

[FooNdaR]

I'm using it mainly as Blu-Ray player for now. PS2 is still hooked up to the TV since I don't want unnecessary wear and tear on the Blu-Ray drive. Once you're bored of Resistance, there's not much left. I've played thru all the available demos. It's really no wonder why the attach rate is so low currently. I've only bought 3 games (sold the other two a week later) and don't foresee buying any new titles till at least Lair comes out.
The 360 definitely spoils you with the Achievement points adding some extra motivation to play thru games esp for the xbox live arcade stuff not to mention all the voice chat stuff in-game.
The PS3 has a loooong way to go to establish an online gaming community which is one of the great things about Xbox Live.
But hey, we knew what we were getting into when we bought this shiny beast. The 360 also had a drought but the online play kind of sated most of the complaining.


That is how I was using mine too, as a Blu-Ray player, but I have an upconerting DIVX playing DVD player, and only in Ice Age 2 could I see a difference.
All other movies looked the same to me.

It is gone now...

[Emancipated]

They couldn't set the resolution to 1280x720 by checking if its being run on PS3? Actually, its probably because they never developed it to that specification. They would need higher res textures and models to make it look good in higher res. Its either that, or their 'dvd' cannot hold any more data. :lol: Sony fanboys would pick the latter no?

That would go against one of the tenent of having superior storage capability. Argh, they just can't buy a win.

[rdtx2002]

M U L T I

- id Software and Activision announced the first person shooter Enemy Territory: Quake Wars will be coming to PS3 and Xbox 360. The 360 version will be produced by Nerve Software, while Z-Axis will handle the PS3 versio. Both games will support online duel for up to 16 players.

P L A Y S T A T I O N 3

- Sony announced they will reduce investments on semiconductors for the next 3 years from 500 billion yen to 300 billion yen, the company plans to outsource Cell chip manufacturing to major chipmakers to help lower production costs. Sony also plans to produce Cell chips using 45 nanometer technology.

- SCEE announced they will release a cost-free download of Gran Turismo HD in Europe on March 23, which will have 10 vehicles and one course. In Autumn SCEE will release Gran Turismo 5 Prologue, which will have more vehicles and courses, and for the first time an online duel mode. The full version of Gran Turismo 5 is scheduled for a Spring 2008 release.

- SCEE confirmed that 30 games will be available for the launch of PlayStation 3 in Europe on March 23, 2007.

[Badman]

I really hope what they say about gran tourismo 5 is true. Cant wait till it comes out.

Also i'm really glad to see that enemy territory: quake wars will be multi platform. I'm hoping to upgrade my computer in time but just in case i can always get the game for ps3 instead:D

[sfu_lifer]

I really hope what they say about gran tourismo 5 is true. Cant wait till it comes out.

Also i'm really glad to see that enemy territory: quake wars will be multi platform. I'm hoping to upgrade my computer in time but just in case i can always get the game for ps3 instead:D
It'll probably run faster with the PS3 (versus 360). Nvidia's pretty good with OpenGL support. We'll see I suppose.

[Emancipated]

M U L T I

- id Software and Activision announced the first person shooter Enemy Territory: Quake Wars will be coming to PS3 and Xbox 360. The 360 version will be produced by Nerve Software, while Z-Axis will handle the PS3 versio. Both games will support online duel for up to 16 players.



Who is exactly is responsible for making the game itself? Here I thought iD Software was a production house, the actual party responsible for design/making the game. Are they making the PC version and letting these other companies do a port using the textures, maps, etc ?

So confusing.

[BigBadBoo]

Who is exactly is responsible for making the game itself? Here I thought iD Software was a production house, the actual party responsible for design/making the game. Are they making the PC version and letting these other companies do a port using the textures, maps, etc ?

So confusing.

My understanding is that the two other companies are using the Doom 3 engine for the game, and are under contract with iD (subsidiaries?). It could also be that the iD is working on the code, and the other two companies working on the content. This is really just a taste of the future direction of the industry. Companies will have to specialize in different aspects of game development in order to cope with the rising development costs.

In the future, one company will work on the engine, another will work on the game-specific code on multiple projects using that engine, another company will focus on design and story, another company on testing, another company on marketing and hype, etc.

[BigBadBoo]

It'll probably run faster with the PS3 (versus 360). Nvidia's pretty good with OpenGL support. We'll see I suppose.

I would believe that. Carmack is a big OpenGL fan.

[Driftwood]

I would believe that. Carmack is a big OpenGL fan.

http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=93630

Commenting on the internal architecture of the PS3, Carmack says, "I think the decision to use an asymmetric CPU by Sony was a wrong one. There are aspects that could make it a winning decision," Carmack continues, "but they're not helpful to the developers."

Carmack adds, "I've been pulling for Microsoft, because I think they've done a better job for development support, and I think they have made somewhat smarter decisions on the platform. It's not like the PlayStation 3 is a piece of junk or anything ... they just took a design decision that wasn't the best from a development standpoint."

[rdtx2002]

http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=93630

Commenting on the internal architecture of the PS3, Carmack says, "I think the decision to use an asymmetric CPU by Sony was a wrong one. There are aspects that could make it a winning decision," Carmack continues, "but they're not helpful to the developers."

Carmack adds, "I've been pulling for Microsoft, because I think they've done a better job for development support, and I think they have made somewhat smarter decisions on the platform. It's not like the PlayStation 3 is a piece of junk or anything ... they just took a design decision that wasn't the best from a development standpoint."

it's no use quoting John Carmack.. he has been a Microsoft xbox fanboy since the beginning and couldn't program a PS2 or PS3 to save his life.

he talks a lot of smack about PS2 programming.. but what happens.. other developers blow him out of the water and he shuts up.. now he is doing the same. He talks about how PS2 architecture sucks and the graphics will blow.. but games like MGS, and Sony firsty party games all outshine anything ID puts out on consoles in terms of technicalities and objects put in screen.

Carmack is incapable to developing on a 'new' architecture.. he only knows OpenGL and that is all. If Carmack took the time to research instead of bash. he would have found out, like hot Tecmo found out, that you can program the PS3 quite easily.

Carmack should just stick to PC gaming.. that is the only thing he knows anyways. The gaming industry has caught up and surpassed Carmack.. he is just like an old man that just likes to complain about anything except PCs

[sfu_lifer]

it's no use quoting John Carmack.. he has been a Microsoft xbox fanboy since the beginning and couldn't program a PS2 or PS3 to save his life.

he talks a lot of smack about PS2 programming.. but what happens.. other developers blow him out of the water and he shuts up.. now he is doing the same. He talks about how PS2 architecture sucks and the graphics will blow.. but games like MGS, and Sony firsty party games all outshine anything ID puts out on consoles in terms of technicalities and objects put in screen.

Carmack is incapable to developing on a 'new' architecture.. he only knows OpenGL and that is all. If Carmack took the time to research instead of bash. he would have found out, like hot Tecmo found out, that you can program the PS3 quite easily.

Carmack should just stick to PC gaming.. that is the only thing he knows anyways. The gaming industry has caught up and surpassed Carmack.. he is just like an old man that just likes to complain about anything except PCs
Bull. PS3 is tough to program for. Ask any PS3 developer out there (no please don't talk to producers and designers and artists and quote them). Sony+IBM+nvidia have not made things any easier for them either with craptastic tools. If the PS3 was truly easy to program for, PS3 dev teams would match the smaller size of the 360 teams and PS3 games would outshine 360 games already. So please, unless you have direct contact/experience, don't go slamming folks who've done great work and are considered pillars in the programming community.
In many cases, it's a time/money issue, not a matter of talent.

[jeffyjaixx]

Bull. PS3 is tough to program for. Ask any PS3 developer out there (no please don't talk to producers and designers and artists and quote them). Sony+IBM+nvidia have not made things any easier for them either with craptastic tools. If the PS3 was truly easy to program for, PS3 dev teams would match the smaller size of the 360 teams and PS3 games would outshine 360 games already. So please, unless you have direct contact/experience, don't go slamming folks who've done great work and are considered pillars in the programming community.
In many cases, it's a time/money issue, not a matter of talent.

I'm just waiting on the Naughty Dog game. It looks like it will be on the "ICE" engine. It looks sick.

[rdtx2002]

Bull. PS3 is tough to program for. Ask any PS3 developer out there (no please don't talk to producers and designers and artists and quote them). Sony+IBM+nvidia have not made things any easier for them either with craptastic tools. If the PS3 was truly easy to program for, PS3 dev teams would match the smaller size of the 360 teams and PS3 games would outshine 360 games already. So please, unless you have direct contact/experience, don't go slamming folks who've done great work and are considered pillars in the programming community.
In many cases, it's a time/money issue, not a matter of talent.

John Carmack is a known fanboy of PC architecture.. he hasn't liked the Ps2, and i'm not surprised that he is bashing the PS3.. I understand he is one of the 'pillars' of gaming but ever since the Ps2 came out, he has had nothing good to say about it.. always slamming the architecture and being made a fool by more 'talented' dev houses like Temco, Konami, Capcom, and SCEA (Naughty Dog, Team Ico).

If he is such a 'pillar' why doesn't he be the innovator that he once was and dive into Ps2/Ps3 programming instead of sitting on his laurels.?

and i'm entitled to my opinion. I don't need the likes of you to tell me otherwise. Just because Carmack has done good before doesn't mean i can't criticize him.

[BigBadBoo]

John Carmack is a known fanboy of PC architecture.. he hasn't liked the Ps2, and i'm not surprised that he is bashing the PS3.. I understand he is one of the 'pillars' of gaming but ever since the Ps2 came out, he has had nothing good to say about it.. always slamming the architecture and being made a fool by more 'talented' dev houses like Temco, Konami, Capcom, and SCEA (Naughty Dog, Team Ico).

If he is such a 'pillar' why doesn't he be the innovator that he once was and dive into Ps2/Ps3 programming instead of sitting on his laurels.?

and i'm entitled to my opinion. I don't need the likes of you to tell me otherwise. Just because Carmack has done good before doesn't mean i can't criticize him.

Its quotes like this that makes a fanboys a fool. If Carmack started saying good things about PS3, you would be bending over backwards posting his quotes.
What do you know about PS2 or PS3 development? Wait, do you even know anything about game development? As some one who is experienced with 3D engines and graphics, Carmack certainly has the right to say what he says. Its his opinion based on his experience and knowledge. You have NOTHING to back your claims hence making you an ignorant fanboy who is trying to defend his precious PS3. You have no experience, you probably have never seen a Sony devkit, much less worked on it to know if Carmack is full of it or not. (for example, have you ever seen a Sony devkit? if so, what is the one remarkable thing about it? answer that question and I might have some respect about your opinion)

[GunnerX]

Yeah, Carmack has no clue what he's talking about! The PS3 is very easy to program hence the never ending release of great games with non stop releases coming up! I can't keep up with all the announcements of new games!

[joshmxpx]

Yeah, Carmack has no clue what he's talking about! The PS3 is very easy to program hence the never ending release of great games with non stop releases coming up! I can't keep up with all the announcements of new games!

+1

[rdtx2002]

Its quotes like this that makes a fanboys a fool. If Carmack started saying good things about PS3, you would be bending over backwards posting his quotes.

You just demonstrated the common respone from Carmack fanboys

What do you know about PS2 or PS3 development? Wait, do you even know anything about game development?

i know that Carmack thinks he is the 'end and and be all' and has some phobia against 'new technology'

As some one who is experienced with 3D engines and graphics, Carmack certainly has the right to say what he says.

and I have the right to slam him if I want.

Its his opinion based on his experience and knowledge. You have NOTHING to back your claims hence making you an ignorant fanboy who is trying to defend his precious PS3.

what has Carmack done for consoles compared to the likes of Sony first party, Konami, Square Enix.. these development houses are not complaining about the architecture.. they embrace it and find it as a challenge and the results show.. why can't Carmack do the same?

You have no experience, you probably have never seen a Sony devkit, much less worked on it to know if Carmack is full of it or not. (for example, have you ever seen a Sony devkit? if so, what is the one remarkable thing about it? answer that question and I might have some respect about your opinion)

funny how you Carmack junkies get all bent out of shape when anyone tries to slam him.

I don't get why you need to question me about development and whether or not I have access to a devkit.. just sounds like you want to pick a fight or something. One thing about the 'newer' devkits is that it allows for developers to easily map from 720p to 1080p (i.e. hardware scaler.. before it use to be a software scaler)

I don't like John Carmack.. he is an egomaniac that cannot embrace new technologies.. if he was such a pioneer.. show the folks what you can do OTHER than OpenGL.. other people like Kojima, et al do it.. Carmack should not have a problem because he is a 'god' to you folks.

[rdtx2002]

Part of the reason for the underwhelming array of games, gamemakers say, is that PS2 is hard to program for. "The PS2 is definitely more powerful than Dreamcast," says John Carmack, the multimillionaire, ponytailed master gamer behind legendary shooters like Doom and Quake. "But it's less convenient to extract performance from it."
"The PlayStation2 doesn't live up to Sony's hype," says Carmack. "It's just a next-generation machine, and they were acting like they'd invented the steam engine."


development houses have not 'really' complained about Ps2 programming.. they may be frustrated with it.. but the results have shown that the PS2 when programmed properly can get great results (something Carmack can't and won't do)

so.. can he explain why God of War 2 looks fantastic?.. Gran Turismo 4?..

wait.. where is ID Software in terms of PS2 gaming? I like id as much as the next guy and Carmack is a great coder. But when I hear statements like this it reminds me of other visionaries such as James Watt or Thomas Edison slamming other people's innovations and ultimately becoming irrelevent in their industries because they couldn't see beyond their own work.

Carmack is a revolutionary, although he has never been right about consoles.
I remember when he championed the Atari Jaguar; you don't know what that is? Obviously it didn't do so well. Then there was the time he said he would NEVER develop for a Nintendo console again after they made him change Wolfenstein's German Shepards into giant rats. The guy is a genius; but he knows more about launching rockets than he does about consoles.

[Beradon]

Its quotes like this that makes a fanboys a fool. If Carmack started saying good things about PS3, you would be bending over backwards posting his quotes.
Carmack certainly has the right to say what he says. Its his opinion based on his experience and knowledge. I don't mind Carmack's hard work, as long as I don't have to pay for it. :) He keeps the warez scene stock full of titles. :lol:

[CFRTim]

This is just too funny:
With the PS3 not on sale in Australia yet, a Bondi store owner decided to fake the Sony experience using an Xbox 360 and a lump of cardboard.

pics: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mn8/

More here: http://theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37692

[Marlek]

Oh, right right... Carmack clearly doesn't know what he's talking about. I mean he's a guru in the industry and all, but obviously way off base. But what about Josh Robinson? He was fired from Sony for making these comments:

"To hear people talk, you’d thing that a processor revolution was about to happen. So I’ve been pretty excited to say the least. Now in my opinion it doesn’t matter how good the PS3 is. If the XBOX 360 is better, then it doesn’t really matter how the cell processors work or how good they say it is. Realistically one of them will be better over all. Now I’ve spoken with people who are on the technical side of the PS3.

I’ve also talked with people on the technical side of the XBOX 360. The consistent comment I am hearing from people on my end is, “The XBOX 360 is better”. They are saying that it is capable of just doing more. (shrugs) Now take that for what its worth. If you watch all the videos on the PS3 they will say how much more powerful it is than the XBOX and vice versa. Im just telling you what I am hearing."

http://weblogs.asp.net/jezell/archive/2006/03/03/439526.aspx

[JayPatel]

http://www.tekken-official.jp/tk6ac/img/tk6_aou_01.jpg
http://www.tekken-official.jp/tk6ac/img/tk6_aou_02.jpg
http://www.tekken-official.jp/tk6ac/img/tk6_aou_03.jpg
http://www.tekken-official.jp/tk6ac/img/tk6_aou_04.jpg
http://www.tekken-official.jp/tk6ac/img/tk6_aou_05.jpg
http://www.tekken-official.jp/tk6ac/img/tk6_aou_06.jpg
http://www.tekken-official.jp/tk6ac/img/tk6_aou_07.jpg

[JayPatel]

http://www.tekken-official.jp/tk6ac/img/tk6_aou_08.jpg
http://www.tekken-official.jp/tk6ac/img/tk6_aou_09.jpg
http://www.tekken-official.jp/tk6ac/img/tk6_aou_10.jpg
http://www.tekken-official.jp/tk6ac/img/tk6_aou_11.jpg

streaming trailer

mms://wmt9-od.stream.ne.jp/vod11/bngi/tk6ac_pv1.wmv

[jeffyjaixx]

http://www.tekken-official.jp/tk6ac/img/tk6_aou_01.jpg
http://www.tekken-official.jp/tk6ac/img/tk6_aou_02.jpg
http://www.tekken-official.jp/tk6ac/img/tk6_aou_03.jpg
http://www.tekken-official.jp/tk6ac/img/tk6_aou_04.jpg
http://www.tekken-official.jp/tk6ac/img/tk6_aou_05.jpg
http://www.tekken-official.jp/tk6ac/img/tk6_aou_06.jpg
http://www.tekken-official.jp/tk6ac/img/tk6_aou_07.jpg

Sick pics.

[numb555]

WoW, that is 1000% better than the crap they were showing at E3 2006.

[sfu_lifer]

WoW, that is 1000% better than the crap they were showing at E3 2006.

Tekken looks awful. Remember that trailer E3 2005? That looks NOWHERE near that. At least Motorstorm made an effort (also still nowhere near the trailer E3 2005), this one barely looks better than Tekken 5 HD.

[JayPatel]

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20070216/aou_bn18.jpg
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20070216/aou_bn19.jpg
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20070216/aou_bn20.jpg
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20070216/aou_bn21.jpg
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20070216/aou_bn22.jpg
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20070216/aou_bn23.jpg
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20070216/aou_bn24.jpg

[sfu_lifer]

Did they ever say which board is being used for Tekken?
Doesn't look like PS3 or 360 level.

[JayPatel]

Did they ever say which board is being used for Tekken?
Doesn't look like PS3 or 360 level.

its a new arcade board that is based on the PS3 architecture

[JayPatel]

Need Quicktime

Naughty Dogs - Uncharted Drakes Fortune 3D Screenshot

http://media.gameinformer.com/downloads/downloads2014/movies/2006/drake/gameinformer.mov

Pretty sure these were already posted in here but in case not..here they are.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/Wollan/Un1.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/Wollan/Un2.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/Wollan/Un3.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/Wollan/Un4.jpg

[sfu_lifer]

That Naughty Dog game looks pretty sweet. It's no Crysis but not too shabby graphically.

[rdtx2002]

Here are the latest Japanese console hardware sales for the week of Feb 5 - 11, 2007:

NDS Lite - 201,177 [1,103,588] units
Wii - 78,550 [603,378] units
PSP - 32,175 [303,113] units
PlayStation 3 - 23,431 [178,734] units
PlayStation 2 - 16,033 [149,437] units
Xbox 360 - 4,811 [52,617] units
GBA SP - 980 [8,136] units
GB Micro - 884 [10,245] units
GameCube - 383 [3,459] units
NDS - 121 [561] units
GBA - 36 [328] units

[rdtx2002]

P L A Y S T A T I O N 3

- Hideo Kojima revealed that he is working on a new online multiplayer zombie game. Kojima said his zombie idea is a bit different, in this game zombies cannot turn people into living dead by biting them. The game will take place in a large town where half the inhabitants are zombies.

- Sony Online Entertainment will release a PS3 online game Q*bert on PlayStation Store on February 22, 2007, for US$4.99 (600 yen). The game will have worldwide online rankings.

- In a recent interview with Guy Wilday from Segas Racing Studio, new details are revealed for Sega's next-gen racing game Sega Rally Revo, the game will have over 30 vehicles, a Championship mode for single player and a 16-player online duel mode. There is also a multiplayer split screen mode for offline play. The game will have downloadable contents and Sixaxis movement sensing support.

- Sony announced a playable demo of Full Auto 2: Battlelines has been published in PlayStation Network, and the classic game Destruction Derby has been added for PSP.

- Phil Harrison mentioned that Sony will make an exclusive announcement at the GDC, which takes place in San Francisco on March 5 - 9, 2007.

I wonder what this exclusive announement can be?

[jeffyjaixx]

Need Quicktime

Naughty Dogs - Uncharted Drakes Fortune 3D Screenshot

http://media.gameinformer.com/downloads/downloads2014/movies/2006/drake/gameinformer.mov

Pretty sure these were already posted in here but in case not..here they are.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/Wollan/Un1.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/Wollan/Un2.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/Wollan/Un3.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/Wollan/Un4.jpg

That Naughty Dog game looks pretty sweet. It's no Crysis but not too shabby graphically.

I'm waiting for this game, I heard it's built on the "ICE" Engine that Sony is working on.

P L A Y S T A T I O N 3

- Hideo Kojima revealed that he is working on a new online multiplayer zombie game. Kojima said his zombie idea is a bit different, in this game zombies cannot turn people into living dead by biting them. The game will take place in a large town where half the inhabitants are zombies.

- Sony Online Entertainment will release a PS3 online game Q*bert on PlayStation Store on February 22, 2007, for US$4.99 (600 yen). The game will have worldwide online rankings.

- In a recent interview with Guy Wilday from Segas Racing Studio, new details are revealed for Sega's next-gen racing game Sega Rally Revo, the game will have over 30 vehicles, a Championship mode for single player and a 16-player online duel mode. There is also a multiplayer split screen mode for offline play. The game will have downloadable contents and Sixaxis movement sensing support.

- Sony announced a playable demo of Full Auto 2: Battlelines has been published in PlayStation Network, and the classic game Destruction Derby has been added for PSP.

- Phil Harrison mentioned that Sony will make an exclusive announcement at the GDC, which takes place in San Francisco on March 5 - 9, 2007.

I wonder what this exclusive announement can be?

Damn, this sounds good. :lol:

[jeffyjaixx]

Need Quicktime

Naughty Dogs - Uncharted Drakes Fortune 3D Screenshot

http://media.gameinformer.com/downloads/downloads2014/movies/2006/drake/gameinformer.mov

Pretty sure these were already posted in here but in case not..here they are.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/Wollan/Un1.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/Wollan/Un2.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/Wollan/Un3.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/Wollan/Un4.jpg

I forgot to ask, are these in game screenshots?

[jerryhussain]

Here are the latest Japanese console hardware sales for the week of Feb 5 - 11, 2007:

NDS Lite - 201,177 [1,103,588] units
Wii - 78,550 [603,378] units
PSP - 32,175 [303,113] units
PlayStation 3 - 23,431 [178,734] units
PlayStation 2 - 16,033 [149,437] units
Xbox 360 - 4,811 [52,617] units
GBA SP - 980 [8,136] units
GB Micro - 884 [10,245] units
GameCube - 383 [3,459] units
NDS - 121 [561] units
GBA - 36 [328] units
Wii continues to outsell PS3 by 3:1. These numbers are only interesting when there is a deviation. :razz:

[Badman]

yay downloading full auto 2 demo right now.
Always wanted to try this at least...might even buy it if i like it.:razz:

[sfu_lifer]

yay downloading full auto 2 demo right now.
Always wanted to try this at least...might even buy it if i like it.:razz:

I hated the first one on the 360. I'm downloading it to see if they've fixed it a little bit. People were saying this is Full Auto 1.25 not Full Auto 2 :lol:

Support your local Toronto developers !

[rdtx2002]

Wii continues to outsell PS3 by 3:1. These numbers are only interesting when there is a deviation. :razz:

yeah.. what is more interesting is the DS Lite.. and considering the Wii has about 3x the units produced.. i ain't surprised at the numbers.

[bmaz]

...and considering the Wii has about 3x the units produced.. i ain't surprised at the numbers.
The chicken came before the egg.
Nintendo had to produce 3x more units because they had that much more demand, Wiis and their accessories are still scarce. While the PS3 is becoming more visible.
It's not that Sony can't keep up with demand, it's more like the demand for the PS3 has plateaued.

[rdtx2002]

The chicken came before the egg.
Nintendo had to produce 3x more units because they had that much more demand, Wiis and their accessories are still scarce. While the PS3 is becoming more visible.
It's not that Sony can't keep up with demand, it's more like the demand for the PS3 has plateaued.

i don't think the demand has plateaued for Sony quite honeslty, the week along saw an upward shift of 5000 units... if you see in Japan, it has been constantly outselling the Ps2 for the most part.. and as more units become readily available, the trend is upwards.. and this is with a system with no Killer App whatsoever.. just like the Ps2 and DVD.. the Japanese folks are buying the PS3 to be their BluRay player.

same story but maybe different circumstances in North America.. but Ps3 has taken over the Xbox360 in terms of monthly sales

[jhardy]

yay downloading full auto 2 demo right now.
Always wanted to try this at least...might even buy it if i like it.:razz:

I like it. Too bad they took so long to post the demo.:mad: It was cheap during boxing week at walmart.

[rdtx2002]

Devil May Cry 4 releasing this autumn

Added on 16/02/2007.

In an interview with GamesIndustry.biz, Mark Beaumont, executive VP Capcom and newly appointed head of consumer software in Europe, revealed that Devil May Cry 4 will be released on the PlayStation 3 this "autumn".

Devil May Cry 4 will be, as Mark Beaumont said, Capcom's next triple-A title.

In the last few months there have been a lot of rumours about the PlayStation 3 losing its exclusive of Devil May Cry 4. Capcom finally put a rest on those rumours and reconfirmed it was PlayStation 3 exclusive and that they didn't have plans for releasing it on other platforms.

Hopefully the public can get its first Devil May Cry 4 touch this summer through a PSN demo.

Keep checking PSU.com for the latest Devil May Cry 4 news.

[ledorky]

The chicken came before the egg.
Nintendo had to produce 3x more units because they had that much more demand, Wiis and their accessories are still scarce. While the PS3 is becoming more visible.
It's not that Sony can't keep up with demand, it's more like the demand for the PS3 has plateaued.
Not just more visible, extremely visible. A friend of mine just got back from his Japan vacation and PS3 was EVERYWHERE. And just like here, almost impossible to find both the DS Lite and the Wii.
For a high priced system, the PS3 isn't doing that badly but compared to the competition (360 exempted of course, cz that'll never take off there). You'll likely see the PS3 drop again in hardware sales for next week since Valentine's day is over and the increased demand for VF5 goes down. Meanwhile Nintendo will keep outdistancing themselves from the rest. Hell, just add up all the PSP+PS3+PS2 sales and the Wii still outsold them all. That's just crazy adoption.

[GunnerX]

http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/videogames/ref=pd_ts_c_th_more/002-6388042-9440866

Amazon's top sellers in videogames. #11 is the Super NES and the PS3 is #36. :D

[sfu_lifer]

http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/videogames/ref=pd_ts_c_th_more/002-6388042-9440866

Amazon's top sellers in videogames. #11 is the Super NES and the PS3 is #36. :D

How the hell did the snes end up there?? What's next, the genesis?
Oh does anyone know if the PS3 supports download resumes (the 360 had this "feature" from the very beginning)? I was downloading a trailer and got an error, I had to redownload from the very beginning :mad: :evil: >:(

[BoxsterS]

How the hell did the snes end up there?? What's next, the genesis?
Oh does anyone know if the PS3 supports download resumes (the 360 had this "feature" from the very beginning)? I was downloading a trailer and got an error, I had to redownload from the very beginning :mad: :evil: >:(

The Amazon sales rank is obviously in need of scheduled maintenance. As for background downloads on the PS3, this is slated for the March firmware release.

[sfu_lifer]

The Amazon sales rank is obviously in need of scheduled maintenance. As for background downloads on the PS3, this is slated for the March firmware release.
Yep I knew about the background downloads for the future but I would think an essential feature as resuming incomplete/interrupted downloads (fairly standard even on the Wii) would be present on day 1.

[BoxsterS]

Yep I knew about the background downloads for the future but I would think an essential feature as resuming incomplete/interrupted downloads (fairly standard even on the Wii) would be present on day 1.

Well, it wasn't exactly a day one feature for the 360 either if that's any consolation.

[gengis]

only two stars!?
I guess there is too many silly fanboy around here.

Guys I have a question I already have preordered 2 PS3 games (VF5, F1) at EBgames and now I'm debating on the third one they won't let me preorder Motostorm :/
So here my options, what do you think?:

Def Jam Icon Ships 3/6/2007
NBA Street Homecourt Ships 3/06/07
Elder Scrolls 4 Ships 3/13/07
R6 Vegas Ships 3/20/07

[sfu_lifer]

Well, it wasn't exactly a day one feature for the 360 either if that's any consolation.

I'm pretty sure I was able to resume downloads from the beginning with the 360.
What people were bitching about back then was the background downloading which came with the Spring update.

What's 2 stars? The thread? Combination of fanboys and the reality of the games on the PS3 right now. March is the start of hopefully decent games that steadily come.
Oh I'd avoid the EA games. If PC-style RPGs are your boat, Oblivion is the way to go. I'm not sure about F1 either. I'd rent that first.
Say for the PS3 owners out there, what do you use to convert your HD media to something the PS3 can natively play but at 720p? I wanna convert some of my xvid/divx for playback on the PS3.

[BigBadBoo]

I don't get why you need to question me about development and whether or not I have access to a devkit.. just sounds like you want to pick a fight or something. One thing about the 'newer' devkits is that it allows for developers to easily map from 720p to 1080p (i.e. hardware scaler.. before it use to be a software scaler)


Oh, I just wanted to confirm that you have no idea what you are talking about (I really didnt need to ask you, I can easily figure it out from your posts). Anyone who has worked with the devkit (or atleast seen it) would easily answer that question. You are just spouting ignorant fanboy BS, just cause Carmack picked on your favourite toy. I wouldn't consider Japanese programmers exceptional. I think they are just worked like animals and do not get the recognition or the spotlight like Carmack, Tim Sweeney, and other engine programmers from the West get. Instead, its the designers in Japan that get the very small spotlight thats given to them. Therefore, you don't hear their views/opinions on the hardware.

If you know anything about software development, you will know that the path of least resistance is the best path, and a hardware that demands resources/time like the PS3 is definetly not the best path. If you spend years working on a hardware, then you are bound to get better and better at it. Team Ninja made the best looking game on the Xbox, Ninja Gaiden, and the closest thing to it is God of War 2, which is coming out after 3 years later. I am pretty sure that if Team Ninja spent another 3 years, they can make a game on the original Xbox thats better looking than Ninja Gaiden. There are ways to make a game look good without needing better hardware.

[gengis]

What's 2 stars? The thread? Combination of fanboys and the reality of the games on the PS3 right now. March is the start of hopefully decent games that steadily come.
Oh I'd avoid the EA games. If PC-style RPGs are your boat, Oblivion is the way to go. I'm not sure about F1 either. I'd rent that first.
Say for the PS3 owners out there, what do you use to convert your HD media to something the PS3 can natively play but at 720p? I wanna convert some of my xvid/divx for playback on the PS3.

yeah I never bought a game from EA or Ubisoft maybe I should try to get Motostorm instead.
F1 is great I read a discussion about PSM3 bad review on neogaf and I think the review is full of crap I won't change my preorder.

[rdtx2002]

Oh, I just wanted to confirm that you have no idea what you are talking about (I really didnt need to ask you, I can easily figure it out from your posts). Anyone who has worked with the devkit (or atleast seen it) would easily answer that question. You are just spouting ignorant fanboy BS, just cause Carmack picked on your favourite toy. I wouldn't consider Japanese programmers exceptional. I think they are just worked like animals and do not get the recognition or the spotlight like Carmack, Tim Sweeney, and other engine programmers from the West get. Instead, its the designers in Japan that get the very small spotlight thats given to them. Therefore, you don't hear their views/opinions on the hardware.

so if I dislike Carmack.. makes everything fanboy BS?.. come on.. you are just a fanboy yourself if you think that... just because Carmack 'was' a piller of gaming.. doesn't mean that i need to respect him as long as I live. I don't think he has done anything 'recently' worth mentioning about, yet you have other talented programmers that don't get enough recognition. If you like Carmack, that is fine by me. But there are people with different opinions than yourself. I'm not the only person that feels this way about Carmack.

You rave fanboyism on my part.. look in the mirror.

If you know anything about software development, you will know that the path of least resistance is the best path, and a hardware that demands resources/time like the PS3 is definetly not the best path. If you spend years working on a hardware, then you are bound to get better and better at it. Team Ninja made the best looking game on the Xbox, Ninja Gaiden, and the closest thing to it is God of War 2, which is coming out after 3 years later. I am pretty sure that if Team Ninja spent another 3 years, they can make a game on the original Xbox thats better looking than Ninja Gaiden. There are ways to make a game look good without needing better hardware.

I prefer innovations rather than settling for 'the easy way out'. Programmers need to adapt and continually innovate. Just look at current application developers.. they are also thrown new programming languages such as the upcoming AJAX.. you need to adapt.

If you think God of War 2 is the only game that 'matches' Ninja Gaiden... i'm sorry.. you are wearing rose colour glasses.. but it's all subjective anyways.

and in Regards of Team Ninja.. they already made a new Ninja Gaiden.. on the PS3.. so why did they choose the hard not easy route?

[BigBadBoo]

No point in arguing with a Sony fanboy. What do they pay you?

The truth of this matter is that your obsession with PS3 is clouding your judgement.

[joshmxpx]

so if I dislike Carmack.. makes everything fanboy BS?.. come on.. you are just a fanboy yourself if you think that... just because Carmack 'was' a piller of gaming.. doesn't mean that i need to respect him as long as I live. I don't think he has done anything 'recently' worth mentioning about, yet you have other talented programmers that don't get enough recognition. If you like Carmack, that is fine by me. But there are people with different opinions than yourself. I'm not the only person that feels this way about Carmack.

He actually spends most of his time developing rocket powered moon landers currently, which I think is worth mentioning and a whole lot more exciting than making video games.

Check it out:

http://www.armadilloaerospace.com/n.x/Armadillo/Home

[GunnerX]

and in Regards of Team Ninja.. they already made a new Ninja Gaiden.. on the PS3.. so why did they choose the hard not easy route?

If you have to ask this, then your judgment is truly clouded.

[sfu_lifer]

He actually spends most of his time developing rocket powered moon landers currently, which I think is worth mentioning and a whole lot more exciting than making video games.

Check it out:

http://www.armadilloaerospace.com/n.x/Armadillo/Home
He was already doing that yet was able to majorly help in putting out the Doom 3 engine. Look at the Japanese developers now, they're using the Western based Unreal Engine 3 now in quite a few fo their games. That is the way forward. Rewriting everything from scratch will add just too much to the dev costs nowadays as was the Japanese way before.
As for why Ninja Gaiden is coming out for the PS3, it's a way for Tecmo to get their hands dirty with the PS3 yet be able to put out a game in near record time and make inroads with the PS3 crowd. Itagaki was against it from the beginning (it's a different team doing it). Supposedly Ninja Gaiden 2 is coming with a time exclusive for the 360. I know folks from about 2 different large publishers that have shifted their target platform from the PS3 to the 360 (and just porting as many titles as feasible from 360 to PS3). They're no longer betting the farm on the PS3 so you folks may want to open yourself up to multi-platform gaming and not be a diehard defender of one console.

[BigBadBoo]

so you folks may want to open yourself up to multi-platform gaming and not be a diehard defender of one console.

Hey, I like the PS3. I just dont think its the greatest thing since sliced bread like these guys make it out to be. I do see the PS3 kicking ass, but thats much later. I'll enjoy all 3 consoles when I have the time for them. :D

[Tanith]

I finally called Sony, to my surprise, it did go very well! After some questions (did you try another plug on your ps3, did your ps3 fall in a liquid substance? WTF??? ...) The guy told me that they'll send me a purolator box that i should receive in one or two days. I have to return all that was in the box except promotional dvd or marchandise (they probably dont want Talladega night either). Total time from shipping my box to receive another one should be 5 to 7 days.
Got my ps3 back! and its a new one (sealed box, different serial)
It took 8 business days from the moment i called to
the day i received a new one, i think its pretty good!

One thing that worry me tough, on the paper that i received it say "90 day warranty"... I dont know for the rest of Canada, but in Quebec when you exchange your defective productive for a new one, the warranty start over so i should have another full year... I just hope it doesnt fail again!

[rdtx2002]

If you have to ask this, then your judgment is truly clouded.

well.. BBB is saying that developers should take the easy route ;)

[rdtx2002]

No point in arguing with a Sony fanboy. What do they pay you?

The truth of this matter is that your obsession with PS3 is clouding your judgement.

oh.. i get it now... talking smack about John Carmack = Sony fanboy..

talking anything negative in regards to John Carmack = and idiot or a hater

whatever BBB... i'm sure you pray by your John Carmack statues before you sleep............. :rollseyes:

[rdtx2002]

He actually spends most of his time developing rocket powered moon landers currently, which I think is worth mentioning and a whole lot more exciting than making video games.

Check it out:

http://www.armadilloaerospace.com/n.x/Armadillo/Home


that is fine.. but don't go around telling me that Carmack is currently still a god programmer in terms of games.

[BigBadBoo]

that is fine.. but don't go around telling me that Carmack is currently still a god programmer in terms of games.

No one said that. You really need to re-read exactly whats been said. It basically all comes down to your comments. Btw, shouldn't you be busy playing your PS3?

[Badman]

Got my ps3 back! and its a new one (sealed box, different serial)
It took 8 business days from the moment i called to
the day i received a new one, i think its pretty good!

One thing that worry me tough, on the paper that i received it say "90 day warranty"... I dont know for the rest of Canada, but in Quebec when you exchange your defective productive for a new one, the warranty start over so i should have another full year... I just hope it doesnt fail again!

Hey thats some really good news to hear. Their service is really good then. The only thing is though is whats up with that 90day warranty. It should be 1 year from when you receive it. Hopefully you don't get any more problems!:)

[jeffyjaixx]

No one said that. You really need to re-read exactly whats been said. It basically all comes down to your comments. Btw, shouldn't you be busy playing your PS3?

Looks like you're starting to run out of things to say.

[BigBadBoo]

Looks like you're starting to run out of things to say.

There's nothing more to be said.

[ATLien69]

Moving on to actual constructive PS3 talk, anyone interested in the F1 game at all???? (I got it preordered) The reviews of the JAP version weren't all that great, but I just love playing the demo and can't get enough....and apparently the retail game runs much better and smoother then the demo (which is my only complaint really)....I'm actally a big rally nut (can't wait for CMR!), but F1 is next on the list...and sorry dead last would have to be Nascar (round and round we go....lol) and Motorstorm is finally coming!!! (as close as I'll get to rally for now!)

[kevin01]

There's nothing more to be said.

ok so the PS3 wins...


WHO CARES?!?!?!

Xbox 360 --> Great System
PS3 --> Great System

Can we just not leave it at that. They are both good with their own pros and cons. You guys are acting as if you have to defend your system, like you made it. If it fails, then you wasted money, if it doesnt then have fun. I have both and i think they are both amazing

[jeffyjaixx]

Moving on to actual constructive PS3 talk, anyone interested in the F1 game at all???? (I got it preordered) The reviews of the JAP version weren't all that great, but I just love playing the demo and can't get enough....and apparently the retail game runs much better and smoother then the demo (which is my only complaint really)....I'm actally a big rally nut (can't wait for CMR!), but F1 is next on the list...and sorry dead last would have to be Nascar (round and round we go....lol) and Motorstorm is finally coming!!! (as close as I'll get to rally for now!)

I had F1 preordered, but then I thought, sure it's all nice looking but I think I will be bored because I'm not into that kind of game. So I changed it to Virtua fighter 5. Picking that up tomorrow :lol:

[jerryhussain]

There's nothing more to be said.
I find people who are so anti-Carmack funny, maybe they are jealous of his ferrari. :lol: I found HL2 >>>> Doom 3, even from a game engine point-in-view. Still I dont "hate" on him so much. Heck even Gabe Newell critcized new console architectures and was more harsh on PS3.

Moving on to actual constructive PS3 talk, anyone interested in the F1 game at all???? (I got it preordered) The reviews of the JAP version weren't all that great, but I just love playing the demo and can't get enough....and apparently the retail game runs much better and smoother then the demo (which is my only complaint really)....I'm actally a big rally nut (can't wait for CMR!), but F1 is next on the list...and sorry dead last would have to be Nascar (round and round we go....lol) and Motorstorm is finally coming!!! (as close as I'll get to rally for now!)
The PS3 Magazine reviewed it and gave it a really bad score. 4.8/10 (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=158292) :|

The demo felt alright to me, not as bad as the reports.

[BigBadBoo]

I find people who are so anti-Carmack funny, maybe they are jealous of his ferrari. :lol: I found HL2 >>>> Doom 3, even from a game engine point-in-view. Still I dont "hate" on him so much. Heck even Gabe Newell critcized new console architectures and was more harsh on PS3.



Oh ya, Carmack is just a code monkey, IMO. I don't care for his games at all, and in fairness, he only deals with the tech. But he does know his **** when it comes to graphics development. I just like to have fun picking on the Sony fanboys. I find that MS and Nintendo fanboys are atleast tolerant of others, while Sony fanboys just hate MS, hate the 360, and are so obsessed with Japan or something.

[rdtx2002]

No point continuing the John Carmack talk.. it's only going to be rebutted by fanboy BS from BBB anyways..

it's become apparent that anything negative said about Carmack = being a Sony fanboy or having no clue whatsoever. Like I said before.. not everyone worships John Carmack.. think about it.

[GunnerX]

No point continuing the John Carmack talk.. it's only going to be rebutted by fanboy BS from BBB anyways..

it's become apparent that anything negative said about Carmack = being a Sony fanboy or having no clue whatsoever. Like I said before.. not everyone worships John Carmack.. think about it.

You certainly like to twist things to your advantage. Your initial point was that Carmack has no clue what he's talking about when he said the PS3 was hard to program. So you obviously know much more than Carmack does about the PS3.

[sfu_lifer]

I find people who are so anti-Carmack funny, maybe they are jealous of his ferrari. :lol: I found HL2 >>>> Doom 3, even from a game engine point-in-view. Still I dont "hate" on him so much. Heck even Gabe Newell critcized new console architectures and was more harsh on PS3.


The PS3 Magazine reviewed it and gave it a really bad score. 4.8/10 (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=158292) :|

The demo felt alright to me, not as bad as the reports.
Hated the demo. Barely felt next gen. I think Motorstorm is more my way but the lack of tracks will relegate that to a rental for me. From all reports, it doesn't sound very deep at all (typical of 1st gen games). They do have a nice base to build from though.
Next purchase for me will be fl0w, then Lair (will avoid VF5 since no online play). I won't buy another title till DMC4 :). Let's not bag on the PS3 (it's automatic Sony's foot-in-mouth is doing a nice job of that lately). Don't you 360 fanboys have better things to do (i.e. like playing the many good titles on the 360 or Wii ;)?

[jerryhussain]

Hated the demo. Barely felt next gen. I think Motorstorm is more my way but the lack of tracks will relegate that to a rental for me. From all reports, it doesn't sound very deep at all (typical of 1st gen games). They do have a nice base to build from though.
Next purchase for me will be fl0w, then Lair (will avoid VF5 since no online play). I won't buy another title till DMC4 :). Let's not bag on the PS3 (it's automatic Sony's foot-in-mouth is doing a nice job of that lately). Don't you 360 fanboys have better things to do (i.e. like playing the many good titles on the 360 or Wii ;)?
You cant compare it to MotorStorm, Sony is positioning it as their system seller.

I'm going to get MotorStorm then switch to my PC for gaming. Meantime I'll get some Blu-ray movies. I dont think there are many real compelling games in the next 2-3 months. :|

[rdtx2002]

You certainly like to twist things to your advantage. Your initial point was that Carmack has no clue what he's talking about when he said the PS3 was hard to program. So you obviously know much more than Carmack does about the PS3.

it's my opinion that Carmack has 'no clue' because he has repeated this offense before with the Ps2 and also concluded that 'I don't like it'.. but at the end of the day, there were good games that were developed... not many by iD though.

[rdtx2002]

You cant compare it to MotorStorm, Sony is positioning it as their system seller.

I'm going to get MotorStorm then switch to my PC for gaming. Meantime I'll get some Blu-ray movies. I dont think there are many real compelling games in the next 2-3 months. :|

you could get F1 Championship if you are an F1 fan

[ATLien69]

I just can't figure out why F1 is getting such bad scores...it's not that bad...I actually like it quite a bit...gotta wait for the scores from IGN and Gamespot...I'm hoping for a 7/10 atleast. I think the 4.8/10 review is the jap version....I saw another review with a 7/10 jap version again though....i hope online mode is good! Until then off to play Crackdown. :) Enjoying the best of both worlds. :D

[rdtx2002]

BREAKiNG NEWS: PS3 Firmware Version Check Bypassed!

# Confirmed: You can now play PS3 games on-line, without updating your current PS3 Firmware!
# Confirmed: You can now access the official PS3 store without updating your current PS3 Firmware version!
# Although not tested yet, you may be able to downgrade the PS3's Firmware through this circumvention technique.
# Although not tested yet, you may be able to 'install' your own desired PS3 store items using this method

[kevin01]

BREAKiNG NEWS: PS3 Firmware Version Check Bypassed!

# Confirmed: You can now play PS3 games on-line, without updating your current PS3 Firmware!
# Confirmed: You can now access the official PS3 store without updating your current PS3 Firmware version!
# Although not tested yet, you may be able to downgrade the PS3's Firmware through this circumvention technique.
# Although not tested yet, you may be able to 'install' your own desired PS3 store items using this method

yess now i dont have to wait for paradox to let me know if 1.51 will work, becasue i can stay at 1.32

[sfu_lifer]

BREAKiNG NEWS: PS3 Firmware Version Check Bypassed!

# Confirmed: You can now play PS3 games on-line, without updating your current PS3 Firmware!
# Confirmed: You can now access the official PS3 store without updating your current PS3 Firmware version!
# Although not tested yet, you may be able to downgrade the PS3's Firmware through this circumvention technique.
# Although not tested yet, you may be able to 'install' your own desired PS3 store items using this method

Sorry but that's way oversensationalized (nothing more than a DNS redirect):
http://ps3.qj.net/The-PS3-Firmware-update-bypass-hack-Nothing-more-than-uneducated-sensationalism/pg/49/aid/83584

[rdtx2002]

Sorry but that's way oversensationalized (nothing more than a DNS redirect):
http://ps3.qj.net/The-PS3-Firmware-update-bypass-hack-Nothing-more-than-uneducated-sensationalism/pg/49/aid/83584

possible.. but it will be blocked anyways in the future imo

[Emancipated]

I just can't figure out why F1 is getting such bad scores...it's not that bad...I actually like it quite a bit...gotta wait for the scores from IGN and Gamespot...I'm hoping for a 7/10 atleast. I think the 4.8/10 review is the jap version....I saw another review with a 7/10 jap version again though....i hope online mode is good! Until then off to play Crackdown. :) Enjoying the best of both worlds. :D

What do you care if it's a 6/10 or 9/10? If you're an F1 fan, it's a must buy. I have the Japanese version and have had it for since January, but it's woefully dull without online support.

sidenote Does anyone know if GT4 can be set to 1080i/p or 720p through HDMI to DVI? I can't get it to run outside of 480 which is farking crap. It's also showing letterbox for some reason. I have the latest firmware as well. It looks so much worse than Forza through the Xbox360.

[Emancipated]

sidenote Does anyone know if GT4 can be set to 1080i/p or 720p through HDMI to DVI? I can't get it to run outside of 480 which is farking crap. It's also showing letterbox for some reason. I have the latest firmware as well. It looks so much worse than Forza through the Xbox360.

Anyone? It's a vexing problem I would love to get resolved. GT4 looking like GT1 just isn't same.

[sfu_lifer]

Anyone? It's a vexing problem I would love to get resolved. GT4 looking like GT1 just isn't same.

This is something you'd have to contact Sony for. I think it's a bug with their emulator.

[Emancipated]

This is something you'd have to contact Sony for. I think it's a bug with their emulator.

I thought that was fixed with the latest firmware? Unfortunately due to my setup, only HD games will look good. I don't have a CRT television to see the difference.

Screw it.

EDIT: Fl0w is in stores today? Game looks more like a pretty interactive screen saver than a game.

[jerryhussain]

WarHawk is multiplayer ONLY now, will be available as a download on the PSN.

http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=7894167&publicUserId=4561231

[sfu_lifer]

WarHawk is multiplayer ONLY now, will be available as a download on the PSN.

http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=7894167&publicUserId=4561231
Ouch. I didn't think it was anything worth crowing about from the beginning (it looked quite crappy). Well at least Sony's current downloadable's are affordable compared to the VC and the ripoff Live arcade.

Oh and all the current firmware fixed was mostly for the PS3 HD cables to output the same way as the PS2 composite wise (progr fixes are coming from what I hear but other things take priority).

[Emancipated]

WarHawk is multiplayer ONLY now, will be available as a download on the PSN.

http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=7894167&publicUserId=4561231

For us to purchase or are you referring to the demo? In either case, when is it available?

Is this the same game which had an armada of airplanes blackening the sky during those PS3 showcases we've seen in the past few years? There is a similar game (or possibly this same game) which had the same type of post-apocolyptic aura pitting man against some alien beings duking it out with modern war machines with chases in and around mountainous enclaves. Really disappointed to learn it will only be multiplayer. That is one thing I dreaded about Battlefiend2. Looks to me a budget/time issue.

[jeffyjaixx]

Playstation Network just added Ridge Racer 7 Demo to the store.

My brother is playing it right now, the graphics are pretty good. Handling's a bit weird at first.

[jeffyjaixx]

WarHawk is multiplayer ONLY now, will be available as a download on the PSN.

http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=7894167&publicUserId=4561231

Warhawk can also be played from a disc.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/warhawk/rumor-smash-warhawk-download-only-239025.php

For the second time in about as many months Sony is smashing the rumor that Warhawk is going to be downloadable only.

In fact, Sam Kennedy, who floated the rumor as apparent fact, spent the day playing the game on a disc. Whoops.

When contacted for comment today, Sony reps said:

At this time that's simply not true. We have not made any decision with regards to distribution for Warhawk, which is due out this fall.
DId they leave a little wiggle room? Sure, but I hear that's more about leaving room for any eventuality than because they think the game is going that route. The fact is that right now the early version of the game is playable on a disc. Brian Crecente

[jeffyjaixx]

I just downloaded Flow... it's a very relaxing and fun game, you can play with a friend, really cool!

[sfu_lifer]

Playstation Network just added Ridge Racer 7 Demo to the store.

My brother is playing it right now, the graphics are pretty good. Handling's a bit weird at first.

I guess you haven't seen RR6 on the 360? It's basically the same game except the 360 had more background objects and better AA and online play :cheesygri

[GunnerX]

I just downloaded Flow... it's a very relaxing and fun game, you can play with a friend, really cool!

Is it worth the price?

[rdtx2002]

Is it worth the price?

well..$7.99USD ain't exactly going to break your bank ;)

IGN Ratings for flOw (PS3)
8.5 Presentation
With practically no menus to get in the way, this is as fluid an experience as you'll find anywhere.
7.0 Graphics
Artistic design is fantastic, but there's not a whole lot going on. Surprisingly though, there is some slow-down from time to time.
7.0 Sound
Eerily beautiful, it fits the "barely there" theme of the rest of the game.
7.5 Gameplay
Seeing what's next has never been so intriguing. Sadly though, all you do is eat and evolve.
4.0 Lasting Appeal
Playing through all six forms will only take two hours, max, and once you're done there's not much left to do.
7.6
Good OVERALL
(out of 10 / not an average)

[rdtx2002]

P L A Y S T A T I O N 3

- Insomniac announced the next Ratchet & Clank title Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction will be coming to PlayStation 3.

- Sony will release the PS3 online golf title Minna no Golf 5 [Hotshot Golf 5] in Japan in July 2007, a playable demo of the game will be available for download between March 21 - May 7.

- Sony has released 7 new PlayStation classic titles in the PlayStation Store, which can be downloaded and play on PSP for 525 yen each:

R-Type Delta (Irem)
Yaku: Yuujou Dangi (Idea Factory)
Shanghai Dynasty (Success)
Ore no Shikabane o Koete Yuke (Sony)
Ganbare Morikawa-kun 2nd Pet in TV (Sony)
The Drugstore (Hamster)
Puzzle Mania (Hamster)

[sfu_lifer]

Wow we sure got lucky for buying the PS3 early:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/23/AR2007022300227.html

Aussies and Euro people are getting screwed over with worse backwards compabitility (and paying higher for the privilege). They must be getting the cheaper version of the PS3 with chips reduced/removed. It's now software emulation :eek:

[GunnerX]

Playing through all six forms will only take two hours, max, and once you're done there's not much left to do.

For $8USD, I think I will save my money and put it towards VF5.

[jeffyjaixx]

Is it worth the price?

I paid only $1.60 USD :lol:.

I shared it with 4 other people.

[rdtx2002]

For $8USD, I think I will save my money and put it towards VF5.

do like Jeffy and 'share' it ;)

[CFRTim]

Wow we sure got lucky for buying the PS3 early:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/23/AR2007022300227.html

Aussies and Euro people are getting screwed over with worse backwards compabitility (and paying higher for the privilege). They must be getting the cheaper version of the PS3 with chips reduced/removed. It's now software emulation :eek:
Man, this is just getting ludicrous.
Not only are European PS3 buyers getting gouged in pricing terms - paying as much as 40% more for the console than our brethren overseas - but it turns out that European consoles are actually going to have less functionality, too.
So why is Sony being so nasty to its EU client base? There is the small matter of European consumer law which requires gizmos to last nearly twice as long than the US and Japan. In US if a PS3 explodes after a year, the punter has not got a leg to stand on. In Blighty however Sony would have to repair or replace the thing for two years after it was sold.
Sony loses money at first on each PS3 sale due to high production costs and Nobuyuki Oneda, Sony's chief financial officer is determined to make the negative PS3 margin to break even toward the second half of the next business year.
Most people probably wouldn't mind about not having backwards compatibility, but the fact that US and Japan get it and Europe don't is, frankly, galling
Let's face it - Sony's deal is getting worse by the day.
Sources:
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/02/23/european_ps3_has_less_functionality_than_us_japan/
http://theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37825

[GunnerX]

Actually, I believe SONY's original specs for the PS3 was to use Software Emulation. However, as they wanted to rush the system out, they temporarily put in the PS2 chip for BC. So I won't be surprised that new systems coming out within the next few months around the world will not have the PS2 chip.

However, there are pluses and minuses to both. Software emulation's advantage is that the devs can enhance games improving graphics among other things but of course, it won't support all PS2 games. The PS2 chip plays all games but are not enhanced. I personally prefer the built in chip.

[sfu_lifer]

Actually, I believe SONY's original specs for the PS3 was to use Software Emulation. However, as they wanted to rush the system out, they temporarily put in the PS2 chip for BC. So I won't be surprised that new systems coming out within the next few months around the world will not have the PS2 chip.

However, there are pluses and minuses to both. Software emulation's advantage is that the devs can enhance games improving graphics among other things but of course, it won't support all PS2 games. The PS2 chip plays all games but are not enhanced. I personally prefer the built in chip.
The enhanced part is not confirmed. Hopefully that'll be the case (at least throw them a bone for the loss). The good news is, us original adopters should be able to take advantage of that as well (unless Sony decides to screw us).
The future NA units will be screwed out of the PS2 board as well.

[GunnerX]

Picked up my very first PS3 game. VF5! Downtown FS only had 2 left when I got there.

[jhardy]

Wow we sure got lucky for buying the PS3 early:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/23/AR2007022300227.html

Aussies and Euro people are getting screwed over with worse backwards compabitility (and paying higher for the privilege). They must be getting the cheaper version of the PS3 with chips reduced/removed. It's now software emulation :eek:

Actually, they'll be getting the PS3 in 2006 as well:
Keep checking back for regular updates as we build up to the most anticipated product launch of 2006.
(http://eu.playstation.com/ps3/index.html?locale=en_GB)

As for RR7, it's been available through the asian stores for some time now. And "Rtype Delta"? They haven't even brought over Rtypes yet. And when will these things be playable directly on the PS3?

[rdtx2002]

The enhanced part is not confirmed. Hopefully that'll be the case (at least throw them a bone for the loss). The good news is, us original adopters should be able to take advantage of that as well (unless Sony decides to screw us).
The future NA units will be screwed out of the PS2 board as well.

oh well.. guess when i get my ps3, i won't expect good Ps2 compatibility.. then again.. i won't need it since i have a chipped PS2 anyways ;)

[ATLien69]

woot, F1 got a 7.2 from IGN.... :razz: better then the 3 and 4/10's we saw for the jap version.....

[jeffyjaixx]

woot, F1 got a 7.2 from IGN.... :razz: better then the 3 and 4/10's we saw for the jap version.....

F1's not really my type of game :\.

I'm waiting for Tekken 5: DR that's coming out on Monday (hopefully), Motorstorm (March 6) and Calling all Cars (March 12).

I might also get Virtua Tennis 3 that's coming out on March 20th.

[sfu_lifer]

F1's not really my type of game :\.

I'm waiting for Tekken 5: DR that's coming out on Monday (hopefully), Motorstorm (March 6) and Calling all Cars (March 12).

I might also get Virtua Tennis 3 that's coming out on March 20th.

If you also have a 360, I suggest waiting for that version of VT3. Online play makes all the difference replayability wise. I'm hoping MS can break AM2's habit of not allowing online play for VF5 as well. Might have slightly inferior graphics though since the PS3 is the lead platform this time and both games utilize the nvidia GPU in the arcade machines but online is a good trade-off for me.
Otherwise, it's a dry spell for me until Lair comes out. Here's hoping they don't delay that title.

[jeffyjaixx]

If you also have a 360, I suggest waiting for that version of VT3. Online play makes all the difference replayability wise. I'm hoping MS can break AM2's habit of not allowing online play for VF5 as well. Might have slightly inferior graphics though since the PS3 is the lead platform this time and both games utilize the nvidia GPU in the arcade machines but online is a good trade-off for me.
Otherwise, it's a dry spell for me until Lair comes out. Here's hoping they don't delay that title.

I heard that the 360 version is still leaning on not having online play for VF5. But yeah... online play would be sweet.

[GunnerX]

I heard that the 360 version is still leaning on not having online play for VF5. But yeah... online play would be sweet.

SEGA will not be releasing any online play for any version of VF5 and has stated that several times. The 360 version will only have the standard leader boards and maybe replays but definitely no online play.

[jeffyjaixx]

SEGA will not be releasing any online play for any version of VF5 and has stated that several times. The 360 version will only have the standard leader boards and maybe replays but definitely no online play.

Yup, which really sucks imo haha.

The replay value would soar if there was online sigh.

[Sgt_Strider]

Man, this is just getting ludicrous.
Not only are European PS3 buyers getting gouged in pricing terms - paying as much as 40% more for the console than our brethren overseas - but it turns out that European consoles are actually going to have less functionality, too.
So why is Sony being so nasty to its EU client base? There is the small matter of European consumer law which requires gizmos to last nearly twice as long than the US and Japan. In US if a PS3 explodes after a year, the punter has not got a leg to stand on. In Blighty however Sony would have to repair or replace the thing for two years after it was sold.
Sony loses money at first on each PS3 sale due to high production costs and Nobuyuki Oneda, Sony's chief financial officer is determined to make the negative PS3 margin to break even toward the second half of the next business year.
Most people probably wouldn't mind about not having backwards compatibility, but the fact that US and Japan get it and Europe don't is, frankly, galling
Let's face it - Sony's deal is getting worse by the day.
Sources:
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/02/23/european_ps3_has_less_functionality_than_us_japan/
http://theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37825

I don't think this will be a big issue over time. I doubt Sony will continue to support the PS3s with the hardware emulation. What I mean by this is that I doubt they will continue to make updates for the hardware emulation. If it's true that they're going the software emulation route, I can see them putting updates out for that because the install base for the new PS3s will be bigger over time. It makes more sense financially and time wise to dedicate their resources to things that would matter more.

Let's be real here, who is really going to still play PS1 games on their PS3s? For the people that have HDTVs, I can't imagine anyone would want to go past the PS2 era games. If anyone still wants to play PS1 games, then I think they should just get a PSP and play it from there.

What would be a tragedy is if Sony doesn't allow a sufficient amount of PS2 games to run on the PS3.

[jhardy]

...
Let's be real here, who is really going to still play PS1 games on their PS3s? For the people that have HDTVs, I can't imagine anyone would want to go past the PS2 era games. If anyone still wants to play PS1 games, then I think they should just get a PSP and play it from there. ...
I would. Some of them might be hard to play on a tiny psp screen.

[mapleflag]

...

What would be a tragedy is if Sony doesn't allow a sufficient amount of PS2 games to run on the PS3.

So far, we've been able to play all our PS2 games on the PS3.
I bought Call of Duty 3 but haven't opened it yet - hoping to download a demo first. What games can you suggest (for not serious gamers) that will be good for 2 players? Thanks.

[Sgt_Strider]

So far, we've been able to play all our PS2 games on the PS3.
I bought Call of Duty 3 but haven't opened it yet - hoping to download a demo first. What games can you suggest (for not serious gamers) that will be good for 2 players? Thanks.

Oh? I thought there was compatibility reasons with PS2 games. Maybe I'm wrong then cuz I don't have a PS3 yet.

[jhardy]

Not anymore. The euro version, and maybe future NA ones will be a different story. I hope they don't skip the arcade compilations like M$, in favour of reselling them as downloads.

(There are a few games that still don't work, like Guitar heroes.)

[jeffyjaixx]

So far, we've been able to play all our PS2 games on the PS3.
I bought Call of Duty 3 but haven't opened it yet - hoping to download a demo first. What games can you suggest (for not serious gamers) that will be good for 2 players? Thanks.

You might want to look into Marvel:UA, NBA 2K7, Resistance:FOM and Virtua Fighter 5.

[jeffyjaixx]

Oh? I thought there was compatibility reasons with PS2 games. Maybe I'm wrong then cuz I don't have a PS3 yet.

Nope, they fixed it with the 1.50 update near the end of January.

[GunnerX]

oh well.. guess when i get my ps3, i won't expect good Ps2 compatibility.. then again.. i won't need it since i have a chipped PS2 anyways ;)

I thought you already had a PS3? :confused:

[Sgt_Strider]

Nope, they fixed it with the 1.50 update near the end of January.

So all PS2 games work for the PS3 now?

[JayPatel]

http://www.ultimagame.com/play_station_3/foto_f154252.jpg

http://www.ultimagame.com/play_station_3/foto_f154251.jpg

http://www.ultimagame.com/play_station_3/foto_f154250.jpg

http://www.ultimagame.com/play_station_3/foto_f154249.jpg

http://www.ultimagame.com/play_station_3/foto_f154248.jpg

http://www.ultimagame.com/play_station_3/foto_f154247.jpg

[JayPatel]

http://www.ultimagame.com/play_station_3/foto_f154253.jpg

http://www.ultimagame.com/play_station_3/foto_f154244.jpg

http://www.ultimagame.com/play_station_3/foto_f154242.jpg

http://www.ultimagame.com/play_station_3/foto_f154241.jpg

http://www.ultimagame.com/play_station_3/foto_f154240.jpg

http://www.ultimagame.com/play_station_3/foto_f154243.jpg

[numb555]

^^ Sony and CG propagandas ...

Lies!!! :D

[sfu_lifer]

^^ Sony and CG propagandas ...

Lies!!! :D

Those are in-game (although cleaned up a little). I've seen a demo and it's lacking AA. Best ocean water shaders I've seen thus far.
This game is the first AAA title for the PS3 IMO. But the 360 can do Lair. Shame MS didn't get to that team before Sony did ;).

[rdtx2002]

I thought you already had a PS3? :confused:

had one .. sold it.. made a few bucks.. waiting for Xmas ;)

[rdtx2002]

^^ Sony and CG propagandas ...

Lies!!! :D

sounds like you don't know the difference between CG and realtime :D

[Badman]

thats some of the best water in a game ever. That game really looks good.
Anybody know when its coming out?

[Fatman]

what game is that?

[earthman]

what game is that?

it's called, Lair.

[sfu_lifer]

After 2 months with the PS3, I'm ready to post something positive (though I'm still very much disappointed in the state of the console games-wise so far).
Pros:
- Blu-Ray (this can also be a con if all you care about is gaming)
- silent (until it's reading from the disc then it starts to reach 360 levels since the motor starts making the typical optical drive seek noise at that point)
- great picture quality; nicer than the 360 thanks IMO to the digital connection. I compared games off the 360's VGA vs the PS3 and the colors are better on the PS3 and a sharper image to boot. Once the 360's HDMI model comes out, I'm sure it'll be a wash (or the 360 better since most PS3 games are lacking in AA).
- better sound support but as I only have 5.1's anyways with no plans to upgrade, I won't hear the difference
- potentially better racers and the better potential for racing/flight games on the PS3 thanks to the sixaxis. It's not for everyone but it does offer a different and more intuitive control scheme.
- better video support than the 360 (mp4 vs wmv)
- upgradable hard drive (while 360 is stuck in the stone ages with a 13GB usable HD)
- built in Wifi (since it seems the 20GB model is becoming rare/impossible to find hence people saying sony discontiued that model since they're losing more money on it)
- ps2 hardware on board (for now in North America and japan at least); due to this lame game drought, I love being able to pop in most of my games and have it work (save for Guitar Hero 2, boo!)
- force feedback support for the wheel (playing NFS Carbon on my MOMO is pretty cool); supposedly GT4 supports it too but for shame GTHD doesn't
- singstar mic works, as does the karaoke revolution usb mics
- ability to install linux
- built in web browser (i always have a laptop nearby but for those times when I'm lazy or bored or just want to watch youtube on a larger screen, the browser is agreat thing)

Some cons:
- ps2 game save corruption, I've had this happen twice and it sucks having to start over; lame
- no rumble (never thought i'd miss it but you do feel like one of your senses have been taken away)
- bulk, other than the shiny veneer the PS3 is UGLY and is large, not to mention heavy. I think the 360 is heavier (if you include the AC monster brick)
- runs extremely hot even when idle, my room really warms up when the ps3 is on
- sever lack of games
- The foot in mouth disease of its game division heads. Cocky arrogant liars. The PS3 is not a well put together system architecturally games-wise but it is and (and can be) a very very good all in one entertainment machine for your living room. Sony needs to get its act together and pony up the $ to include the Blu-Ray remote and a cheap HDMI cable. At $699 it's criminal to not include one if you seriously want it to be considered a serious (and not cheap) alternative to the dedicated Blu-Ray players out there.

[rdtx2002]

- Here are the latest Japanese console hardware sales for the week of Feb 12 - 18:

NDS Lite - 136,846 [1,240,434] units
Wii - 63,618 [666,996] units
PSP - 34,505 [337,618] units
PlayStation 3 - 20,676 [199,410] units
PlayStation 2 - 16,192 [165,629] units
Xbox 360 - 5,210 [57,827] units
GB Micro - 953 [11,198] units
GBA SP - 843 [8,979] units
GameCube - 347 [3,806] units
NDS - 153 [714] units
GBA - 40 [368] units

[jeffyjaixx]

So all PS2 games work for the PS3 now?

Yes.

Lair looks really great and that's in-game btw. Like someone said, just brushed up a little but in-game :).

[joshmxpx]

Those are in-game (although cleaned up a little). I've seen a demo and it's lacking AA. Best ocean water shaders I've seen thus far.
This game is the first AAA title for the PS3 IMO. But the 360 can do Lair. Shame MS didn't get to that team before Sony did ;).

Not to mention this was supposed to be a launch title. With almost 6 months of extra development, you can make a game look real pretty.

[sfu_lifer]

Well the BC brouhaha with the European units may not be as bad as people have speculated. Since they kept the PS2's crappy GPU, there are way less things to emulate (just the CPU and other innards). The BC *SHOULD* be much better than what the Xbox 360 BC is. It probably won't be as good and I'm sure Sony's testing won't be as good as MS's before certifying a game as 100% BC but at least hopefully our European friends'll be able to play more titles.

[mapleflag]

You might want to look into Marvel:UA, NBA 2K7, Resistance:FOM and Virtua Fighter 5.

Thanks jeffyjaizz. A friend has the NBA game and expectedly, it's much better than our PS 2's NBA Street. Do you know if the demos for the other games you mentioned are available?
I bought and played 'Need for Speed Carbon' and obviously can't return or exchange this now. This is why I want to play the demo for the 'Call of Duty 3' before playing with the one I bought. I don't intend to buy many PS 3 games so I have to be selective in what I buy. Those who have tried and tested games that they can recommend (taking into consideration that I'm not a serious gamer) please post. Thanks.

[sfu_lifer]

Thanks jeffyjaizz. A friend has the NBA game and expectedly, it's much better than our PS 2's NBA Street. Do you know if the demos for the other games you mentioned are available?
I bought and played 'Need for Speed Carbon' and obviously can't return or exchange this now. This is why I want to play the demo for the 'Call of Duty 3' before playing with the one I bought. I don't intend to buy many PS 3 games so I have to be selective in what I buy. Those who have tried and tested games that they can recommend (taking into consideration that I'm not a serious gamer) please post. Thanks.
Buy nothing at the moment for the PS3. The PS3 selection is slim and crappy. Save your money for the summer -> Fall season when the release picks up.

[aturk99]

Just picked up mlb 2k7 for the ps3 it has got me back into playing the system have not put it down since just now from this afternoon

[jeffyjaixx]

Thanks jeffyjaizz. A friend has the NBA game and expectedly, it's much better than our PS 2's NBA Street. Do you know if the demos for the other games you mentioned are available?
I bought and played 'Need for Speed Carbon' and obviously can't return or exchange this now. This is why I want to play the demo for the 'Call of Duty 3' before playing with the one I bought. I don't intend to buy many PS 3 games so I have to be selective in what I buy. Those who have tried and tested games that they can recommend (taking into consideration that I'm not a serious gamer) please post. Thanks.

I know they have Resistance:FOM demo out.

If you haven't gotten this game yet, get it.

[HUH]

anyone know where I can get Gundam Musou locally in GTA?>:(

[nfnx]

Just picked up mlb 2k7 for the ps3 it has got me back into playing the system have not put it down since just now from this afternoon

i love mlb console games. hows this one?

[sfu_lifer]

i love mlb console games. hows this one?

Looks and plays fantastic (picked up the 360 version due to online). I love next-gen graphics. Shame it doesn't have the Wii remote sensor :(

[ATLien69]

MLB 2k7 is out? I thought it wasn't due until sometime mid/late spring?!?!?

I wasn't really liking the 360 demo though...so I think I'll pass...


Just picked up mlb 2k7 for the ps3 it has got me back into playing the system have not put it down since just now from this afternoon

[rdtx2002]

anyone know where I can get Gundam Musou locally in GTA?>:(

Pacific Mall..

Japanese review gave it 8,8,8,9

[rdtx2002]

P L A Y S T A T I O N 3

- Here are some new images of Bandai Namco's Gundam Musou [Gundam Warriors] for PlayStation 3, developed by Omega Force. The game will be available on March 1, 2007.

http://www.the-magicbox.com/0702/gm09.jpg

http://www.the-magicbox.com/0702/gm11.jpg

[Vertigo]

P L A Y S T A T I O N 3

- Here are some new images of Bandai Namco's Gundam Musou [Gundam Warriors] for PlayStation 3, developed by Omega Force. The game will be available on March 1, 2007.

http://www.the-magicbox.com/0702/gm09.jpg

http://www.the-magicbox.com/0702/gm11.jpg

At the time of my post, I'm seeing red x's - anyone else?

[jeffyjaixx]

At the time of my post, I'm seeing red x's - anyone else?

I see nothing at all.

[kevin01]

Just picked up mlb 2k7 for the ps3 it has got me back into playing the system have not put it down since just now from this afternoon

WHAT?!?!?!?! I thought it came out March 5th. Ive been dying for this game to release.

[jhardy]

Here are some new images of Bandai Namco's Gundam Musou [Gundam Warriors] for PlayStation 3, developed by Omega Force. The game will be available on March 1, 2007.
http://www.the-magicbox.com/0702/game070219a.shtml

[CFRTim]

http://www.the-magicbox.com/0702/game070219a.shtml

booooring!!!!! need a better reason to get a PS3

[rdtx2002]

booooring!!!!! need a better reason to get a PS3

well.. that game is not a game for everyone. It'll cater more to Asian people since they actually have an interest in Gundam..

but to say booooring is stupid..

[BigBadBoo]

but to say booooring is stupid..

Its an opinion, just like your opinions on everything other than PS3. :twisted:

[rdtx2002]

Its an opinion, just like your opinions on everything other than PS3. :twisted:

i just find it facinating a person can call a game boring before they play it.. oh well ;)

[GunnerX]

Yay, another Gundam game for the PS3. They need more since the first one was a huge success. We all know that North Americans love Gundam. With quality titles like this, the PS3 will be outselling the Wii and 360 combined in no time.

[sfu_lifer]

Yay, another Gundam game for the PS3. They need more since the first one was a huge success. We all know that North Americans love Gundam. With quality titles like this, the PS3 will be outselling the Wii and 360 combined in no time.

I hope that was sarcasm. As for rdtx, you do know that this is basically Gundam and Dynasty Warriors combined and we all know how boring Dynasty Warriors can get :twisted:

[rdtx2002]

I hope that was sarcasm. As for rdtx, you do know that this is basically Gundam and Dynasty Warriors combined and we all know how boring Dynasty Warriors can get :twisted:

Yes I do know that.. but I actually think this is Gundam game that is done right.. it's is about mass massacre of robots anyways ;)

Not knowing what features there are in moves and such.. hopefully it'll have more options of attack than previous DW games.

[aturk99]

F1 comes out at eb games this afternoon i called cause i have a pre order they said should arrive by 4 :)

[sfu_lifer]

Yes I do know that.. but I actually think this is Gundam game that is done right.. it's is about mass massacre of robots anyways ;)

Not knowing what features there are in moves and such.. hopefully it'll have more options of attack than previous DW games.
Nothing in the Dynasty Warriors can be improved for longevity IMO. I do know Asians eat up that series but I'll have to take a pass. It was good for the first 2 times but after a while, snore. Koei really knows how to run a series to the ground.
So no, it's not stupid at all to dismiss a game before trying it just because you're very much familiar with the maker and the tried and true formula and have at least checked out the gameplay and read the featureset. I do think it will be the first smash game on the PS3 though.

[ATLien69]

YES! I just picked mine up! Awesome game...more or less like the demo...which I thought was wicked...haven't tried online yet and I am dissappointed not to see Kubica there...still VILLANuve.... oh well, maybe next year....


F1 comes out at eb games this afternoon i called cause i have a pre order they said should arrive by 4 :)

[jeffyjaixx]

YES! I just picked mine up! Awesome game...more or less like the demo...which I thought was wicked...haven't tried online yet and I am dissappointed not to see Kubica there...still VILLANuve.... oh well, maybe next year....

Pics please :).

[ATLien69]

sorry pics of what???

Oh and btw the game is acutally getting really good scores...7 and 8 and some 9's... link: http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/928392.asp

gotta play online now, but system telling me there is an update....i hope this doesnt mess with the iso loader coming out soon! :cheesygri

Pics please :).

[sfu_lifer]

sorry pics of what???

Oh and btw the game is acutally getting really good scores...7 and 8 and some 9's... link: http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/928392.asp

gotta play online now, but system telling me there is an update....i hope this doesnt mess with the iso loader coming out soon! :cheesygri
This update is lame. I'm gonna unhook my PS3 from the Net until the Euro launch.
The only way I'm gonna update is if they have the Blu-ray update (currently it will NOT play at 720p :( ).
I don't want to endanger future possibilities :cheesygri

[ATLien69]

Is there a 720P blu-ray movie update on the way??? Cuz my tv downgrades to 480p with moviees and it looks like crap...games are perfectly fine at 720p, but movies are horrid...and 1080i on my tv looks like crap with the ps3 (most noticeable scan lines) , yet 360 is wicked with 1080i (no scan lines, looks like 720p), go figure...


This update is lame. I'm gonna unhook my PS3 from the Net until the Euro launch.
The only way I'm gonna update is if they have the Blu-ray update (currently it will NOT play at 720p :( ).
I don't want to endanger future possibilities :cheesygri

[sfu_lifer]

Is there a 720P blu-ray movie update on the way??? Cuz my tv downgrades to 480p with moviees and it looks like crap...games are perfectly fine at 720p, but movies are horrid...and 1080i on my tv looks like crap with the ps3 (most noticeable scan lines) , yet 360 is wicked with 1080i (no scan lines, looks like 720p), go figure...
I know I'm in the same boat :(
It's the PS3's not having a proper scaler that's causing this issue so it's software at this point and with the Euro launch coming up, it's just not that high a priority for Sony. It's on the way supposedly. Not everything is known for the spring update so I'm crossing my fingers this would be one of the upcoming fixes. It's lame because all the standalone BD players can output at 720p just fine.

[ATLien69]

hey stu_lifer do you get these crazy-ass scan lines on 1080i with the ps3 but ok with 1080i the 360???


I know I'm in the same boat :(
It's the PS3's not having a proper scaler that's causing this issue so it's software at this point and with the Euro launch coming up, it's just not that high a priority for Sony. It's on the way supposedly. Not everything is known for the spring update so I'm crossing my fingers this would be one of the upcoming fixes. It's lame because all the standalone BD players can output at 720p just fine.

[jeffyjaixx]

sorry pics of what???

Oh and btw the game is acutally getting really good scores...7 and 8 and some 9's... link: http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/928392.asp

gotta play online now, but system telling me there is an update....i hope this doesnt mess with the iso loader coming out soon! :cheesygri

Pics of F1:CE :).

[sfu_lifer]

hey stu_lifer do you get these crazy-ass scan lines on 1080i with the ps3 but ok with 1080i the 360???

Yup. Pretty weak for a supposed HD-ready system. I suppose Sony will just laugh in our faces and tell us to get a 1080p Bravia from them to get "TrueHD"

[jeffyjaixx]

hey stu_lifer do you get these crazy-ass scan lines on 1080i with the ps3 but ok with 1080i the 360???

Are you talking about lines when playing Blu-ray movies?

I haven't seen any of these with my Acer 32" LCD TV.

I'm getting a Sony Wega over the weekend, I will let you know if I see any lines in 1080i.

[sfu_lifer]

Motorstorm review is up on IGN, 8.9:
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/768/768820p1.html

Lack of tracks make this a rental to me. Can't wait for the next iteration next year.

[GunnerX]

Motorstorm review is up on IGN, 8.9:
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/768/768820p1.html

Lack of tracks make this a rental to me. Can't wait for the next iteration next year.

wow. Less than 10 tracks???

[sfu_lifer]

wow. Less than 10 tracks???
To be fair, the tracks in Motorstorm are HUGE. I'm willing to say they're larger than any other racing game tracks I've tried (and far more varied terrain too and multiple ins/outs). Still 10 tracks is definitely a downer after a good week of racing and you become familiar. At least the limited online play sounds like a blast but once again, 10 tracks is a bummer.

[jeffyjaixx]

To be fair, the tracks in Motorstorm are HUGE. I'm willing to say they're larger than any other racing game tracks I've tried (and far more varied terrain too and multiple ins/outs). Still 10 tracks is definitely a downer after a good week of racing and you become familiar. At least the limited online play sounds like a blast but once again, 10 tracks is a bummer.

Only 10 tracks? And they also took out offline split screen... wow.

[Grand Master B]

Is this 1080p?

[Waiwai]

Only 10 tracks? And they also took out offline split screen... wow.

I don't believe there was ever offline split screen. It wasn't in the Japanese version. Online was addition to the North American release.

[jeffyjaixx]

I don't believe there was ever offline split screen. It wasn't in the Japanese version. Online was addition to the North American release.

Yeah, I meant why would the devs take out offline split screen with a friend though... it has always been required.

[sfu_lifer]

Is this 1080p?

Of course not. 720p internal but at least they locked it at 30fps.

[rahzel]

there will probably be more tracks later on the PSN.

i played the demo so many times, so having only 8 tracks doesn't bother me TOO much.

[GunnerX]

I got bored after going around the track in the demo a few times. Nothing special. Have much better games to play with on my 360. :D

[jeffyjaixx]

hey stu_lifer do you get these crazy-ass scan lines on 1080i with the ps3 but ok with 1080i the 360???

I actually remember now.

Before I got the Acer 32" LCD TV, I was testing the PS3 out on my old 47" Panny DLP that only supported 480i/p and 1080i.

When I used 1080i... there were distinct lines (1 or 2) on the screen that kept moving down... then goes back up top and then down again at a very slow rate...

They disappeared when I used it on my Acer LCD TV.

[rdtx2002]

M U L T I

- Here are the Top 10 best selling Japanese console games for the week of Feb 19 - 25:

Monster Hunter Portable 2nd (PSP, Capcom) - 705,281 units
Higurashi no Naku Koroni Matsuri (PS2, Alchemist) - 80,002 units
Fire Emblem: Akatsuki no Megami (Wii, Nintendo) - 75,359 units
Sim City DS (NDS, EA) - 50,826 units
Layton Kyouju no Fushigi na Machi (NDS, Level 5) - 49,979 [186,716] units
Wii Sports (Wii, Nintendo) - 47,053 [1,090,736] units
Naruto Shippuuden: Gekitou Ninja Taisen EX (Wii, Takara Tomy) - 45,792 units
Dragon Quest Monsters Joker (NDS, Square Enix) - 40,507 [1,174,576] units
Hajimete no Wii [Wii Play] (Wii, Nintendo) - 35,811 [944,586] units
Picross DS (NDS, Nintendo) - 26,693 [183,357] units

P L A Y S T A T I O N 2

- Sony announced its PS2 action game God of War II has scored one million pre-orders in US, the game will be available on March 31, 2007.

OTHER

- Capcom announced they have licensed Epic Game's Unreal Engine 3.

- During an interview with BBC, SCEE's Jonathan Fragher mentioned that the company is planning to add a new function in the PSP, to allow PSP wirelessly access access pictures, videos and audio contents from PlayStation 3. Users can connect the PSP with their PS3 anywhere over a Hotspot. If a MP3 walkman or digital camera is connected with the PS3, users can also access these devices via the PS3.

P L A Y S T A T I O N 3

- Sony has released the PS3 firmware 1.54, which added USB video camera support for chat and other things.

- Square Enix mentioned that the Final Fantasy XIII battle system will be directed by Toshiro Tsuchida. Tsuchida was the battle system director of Final Fantasy X and Front Mission series. The battle system in FFXIII is said to be resemble the system used in Kingdom Hearts, and have an influence from third person shooters.

[sfu_lifer]

Phil says over 1000 PS3 euro games compat at launch.
That's great news but when you consider how many thousands of titles were relesaed on the PS3, that's not so good (1000/8000 is not a very good %) compared to our 98% here.

[ATLien69]

WHAT! There are 8000 titles available for the PS3!?!?!? ;)
Phil says over 1000 PS3 euro games compat at launch.
That's great news but when you consider how many thousands of titles were relesaed on the PS3, that's not so good (1000/8000 is not a very good %) compared to our 98% here.

[jerryhussain]

http://i9.tinypic.com/4fwxs80.jpg
COMING SOON

[rdtx2002]

http://i9.tinypic.com/4fwxs80.jpg
COMING SOON

huh? :confused:

[ATLien69]

Anyone else having problems d/l'ing the new 1.54 update??? Mine gets to 3% (takes like 1 min.) and then I get a "Cannot establish connection to server" type error; which is funny b/c it does "establish" a connection because it reaches 3%, but then loses it I guess (hard wired here)...tried last night and today...each time stops at 3%....(error code: 80710723) I'm able to browse the net just find with the ps3 browser so it's not my connection...no news of this on the forums... somethings wierd....I wanna update cuz I wanna try F1 online and Motorstorm soon!

[jerryhussain]

Anyone else having problems d/l'ing the new 1.54 update??? Mine gets to 3% (takes like 1 min.) and then I get a "Cannot find connection to server" type error...tried last night and today...each time stops at 3%....(error code: 80710723) I'm able to browse the net just find with the ps3 browser so it's not my connection...no news of this on the forums... somethings wierd....I wanna update cuz I wanna try F1 online and Motorstorm soon!
Mine updated to 1.54 without any problems. :|

huh? :confused:
It will be virtual place where every one has their own gamer profile, achievements, trophies etc. you can also have videos/music/pictures in your 'Home'. Now when you are online (and at your 'Home') people can visit you, look at your trophies, listen to your music, watch your videos and much more. Apparently this is in beta and slated for a fall release.

Ofcourse all will be explained in a few days (hopefully) .. Phil Harrison at GDC. ;)

[rdtx2002]

Mine updated to 1.54 without any problems. :|


It will be virtual place where every one has their own gamer profile, achievements, trophies etc. you can also have videos/music/pictures in your 'Home'. Now when you are online (and at your 'Home') people can visit you, look at your trophies, listen to your music, watch your videos and much more. Apparently this is in beta and slated for a fall release.

Ofcourse all will be explained in a few days (hopefully) .. Phil Harrison at GDC. ;)

interesting...

[jerryhussain]

Immersion and Sony Computer Entertainment Conclude Litigation and Enter Into Business Agreement (http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/03-01-2007/0004537940&EDATE=) :cheesygri

[rahzel]

there are not 10,000 ps2 games, there were only ~2300 PS2 games released in Europe as of Sep 2006 (and even less in N/A).

Immersion and Sony Computer Entertainment Conclude Litigation and Enter Into Business Agreement (http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/03-01-2007/0004537940&EDATE=) :cheesygri
good news.

also, take this with a grain of salt (rumor), but:
http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/index.php?fn=view_thread&t=846685

[sfu_lifer]

Immersion and Sony Computer Entertainment Conclude Litigation and Enter Into Business Agreement (http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/03-01-2007/0004537940&EDATE=) :cheesygri

Ah so that's phil's big announcement next GDC. A new version of the SixAxis w/ rumble and I'm glad I haven't bought any controllers yet :)
As for the number of european games, remember this is not just the UK versions. I read at IGN there were nearly 8000 titles released in the entire Europe.

[Emancipated]

Sony is unveiling to be a liar like President Bush. They said they didn't want or need rumble for their so-called next gen experience and now I bet they will tuck their tail in and come up with some great spin how they will reinvent rumble technology.

WHERE"S MY TANG!? I WANT MY TANG!

[jerryhussain]

http://i1.tinypic.com/2e52hl2.png (http://www.rockstargames.com/IV/)

[numb555]

Playstation™ Lifestyle sounds like a cool concept for a console. Through all the lies, and lack of games at launch ... could the PS3 finally deliver in 2007??

[jeffyjaixx]

Anyone else having problems d/l'ing the new 1.54 update??? Mine gets to 3% (takes like 1 min.) and then I get a "Cannot establish connection to server" type error; which is funny b/c it does "establish" a connection because it reaches 3%, but then loses it I guess (hard wired here)...tried last night and today...each time stops at 3%....(error code: 80710723) I'm able to browse the net just find with the ps3 browser so it's not my connection...no news of this on the forums... somethings wierd....I wanna update cuz I wanna try F1 online and Motorstorm soon!

I'm updating right now.

[Badman]

also, take this with a grain of salt (rumor), but:
http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/index.php?fn=view_thread&t=846685

Even if half these things are real then i would be happy:)
Hopefully this month can really prove what the ps3 has.

Also i cant wait to see even just the trailer of GTA:4

[sfu_lifer]

Sony is unveiling to be a liar like President Bush. They said they didn't want or need rumble for their so-called next gen experience and now I bet they will tuck their tail in and come up with some great spin how they will reinvent rumble technology.

WHERE"S MY TANG!? I WANT MY TANG!

Sony execs have been lying to us for years. This is nothing new. They know they rule the block and can do and say whatever they want. They tried to bully Immersion and that didn't work and the courts protected Immersion.
They slandered rumble and oh look, suddenly it's technology that does actually work with the Suxasses and it's a fantastic piece of work. But they're Sony. It's to be expected nowadays.
I can't believe they bullied the Kotaku folks over a RUMOR about Sony's plan to steal from Microsoft Media Center and Nintendo's Mii channel.

[gengis]

Phil says over 1000 PS3 euro games compat at launch.
That's great news but when you consider how many thousands of titles were relesaed on the PS3, that's not so good (1000/8000 is not a very good %) compared to our 98% here.

BS around 1300 ps2 games have been released in Europe

[sfu_lifer]

BS around 1300 ps2 games have been released in Europe

Source? Seems my IGN number was worldwide. NA alone has 1400+ games and from all accounts, Europe received more than we have thanks to some specific games in specific countries.

And I like that rumor that Sony is ripping off both the LIve achievements and the Mii channel and integrating them. You get a blank room for your avatar and you earn stuff to populate the room with as you earn achievements in games. That would so rock and I'd easily forgive Sony for the theft if they announce that next week :D

[jeffyjaixx]

I'm downloading Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection right now, will post back in few. :D

[sfu_lifer]

I'm downloading Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection right now, will post back in few. :D

Mine was stuck at 1% for so long I gave up. Pricey but I can't complain as it's 1080p :)

[gengis]

Source? Seems my IGN number was worldwide. NA alone has 1400+ games and from all accounts, Europe received more than we have thanks to some specific games in specific countries.

And I like that rumor that Sony is ripping off both the LIve achievements and the Mii channel and integrating them. You get a blank room for your avatar and you earn stuff to populate the room with as you earn achievements in games. That would so rock and I'd easily forgive Sony for the theft if they announce that next week :D
I was wrong too, 2451 games have been released in Europe
http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/data/bizdatatitle_e.html

[jeffyjaixx]

Mine was stuck at 1% for so long I gave up. Pricey but I can't complain as it's 1080p :)

I got mine for $3.99 :D

[sfu_lifer]

I got mine for $3.99 :D

Wha? How?!! Pls share your secret (and don't say you're sharing this between 4 other people) ...

[jeffyjaixx]

Wha? How?!! Pls share your secret (and don't say you're sharing this between 4 other people) ...

You took the words right out of my mouth. :lol:

[rahzel]

how come i don't see T5DR in the PSN? :confused:

[rdtx2002]

Sony is unveiling to be a liar like President Bush. They said they didn't want or need rumble for their so-called next gen experience and now I bet they will tuck their tail in and come up with some great spin how they will reinvent rumble technology.

WHERE"S MY TANG!? I WANT MY TANG!

Sony execs have been lying to us for years. This is nothing new. They know they rule the block and can do and say whatever they want. They tried to bully Immersion and that didn't work and the courts protected Immersion.
They slandered rumble and oh look, suddenly it's technology that does actually work with the Suxasses and it's a fantastic piece of work. But they're Sony. It's to be expected nowadays.
I can't believe they bullied the Kotaku folks over a RUMOR about Sony's plan to steal from Microsoft Media Center and Nintendo's Mii channel.

what Sony has done is no different from what any other company would do :)

[BigBadBoo]

what Sony has done is no different from what any other company would do :)

Spoken like a true fanboy. So its OK as long as other companies do it as well? Or what are you trying to say? :confused:

[rdtx2002]

Spoken like a true fanboy. So its OK as long as other companies do it as well? Or what are you trying to say? :confused:

Spare the fanboy BS.. what I wrote is a 'fact of life'

It's a fact of life that humans are screwed over by big time corporations. That is why i'm trying to say.

what Sony did by bullying Immersion is no different than what any corporation would do to 'get ahead' (though it failed for Sony)

[BigBadBoo]

Spare the fanboy BS.. what I wrote is a 'fact of life'

It's a fact of life that humans are screwed over by big time corporations. That is why i'm trying to say.

what Sony did by bullying Immersion is no different than what any corporation would do to 'get ahead' (though it failed for Sony)

Err...both MS and Nintendo settled the lawsuit as normal companies would. Arrogant Sony tried to hide in the corner hoping it would just go away. Hahaha

You are a fanboy when you have to pull out the 'ya everybody does' BS to defend your company. I call it as I see it. MS fuked up on their console quality, Nintendo fuked up on not estimating shipping enough consoles to meet demand, and Sony fuked up on everything else. :D

[Emancipated]

Spoken like a true fanboy. So its OK as long as other companies do it as well? Or what are you trying to say? :confused:


He's right. It's not ok, but it is the norm in business these days. Spinning/damage control is what corporations do best.

My only consolation is that Sony's lies isn't going to get innocent civilians killed, and I"ll stop there.

[rdtx2002]

Err...both MS and Nintendo settled the lawsuit as normal companies would. Arrogant Sony tried to hide in the corner hoping it would just go away. Hahaha

You are a fanboy when you have to pull out the 'ya everybody does' BS to defend your company. I call it as I see it. MS fuked up on their console quality, Nintendo fuked up on not estimating shipping enough consoles to meet demand, and Sony fuked up on everything else. :D

unfortunaly you have you no idea what you are talking about because fanboyism is the first thing that comes to your mind when you come into this thread.

you are incapable to having a decent convo without resorting to calling people fanboys. Was evident in the Carmack discussion.. evident here. Maybe if you realize that people have different opinions that yourself.

As you said: I'm calling it as I see it.

:D :cheesygri

[rdtx2002]

He's right. It's not ok, but it is the norm in business these days. Spinning/damage control is what corporations do best.

My only consolation is that Sony's lies isn't going to get innocent civilians killed, and I"ll stop there.

ignore BigBadBoo.. he only knows how to call people fanboys and doesn't see past his 'thoughts'. This is a prime example here.

Major Corporations will find any way possible to screw over their customer based without them knowing. Immersion unfortunately was one that Sony could not bully through so they worked things out. Lik-Sang was another one that Sony 'killed' but they had every reason to do so, even though there was some public backlash.

[BaconMunch]

Anyways this might seem off topic but lately Sony seems like they are trying to get their act together, although their public messages suck, actions speak louder than words and let's see if they can deliver any of these.

-Playstation Home
-possible Rumble with the settling with immersion
-DVD upscaling

Still waiting for the games to pick up though...

[GunnerX]

Anyways this might seem off topic but lately Sony seems like they are trying to get their act together, although their public messages suck, actions speak louder than words and let's see if they can deliver any of these.

-Playstation Home
-possible Rumble with the settling with immersion
-DVD upscaling

Still waiting for the games to pick up though...

Those were ALL supposed to be there from the start. But yes, nothing but hot air. PSN is supposed to be equal to or greater than Live from the start. The PS3 was touted to be the second coming of christ being able to generate realistic giant crabs. Yet with all their broken promises and lies, people still defend them. But I guess that's because a lot of them don't even own the system and those that do a lot of complaining are the ones that coughed up the cash for broken promises.

[jamgyu]

Those were ALL supposed to be there from the start. But yes, nothing but hot air. PSN is supposed to be equal to or greater than Live from the start. The PS3 was touted to be the second coming of christ being able to generate realistic giant crabs. Yet with all their broken promises and lies, people still defend them. But I guess that's because a lot of them don't even own the system and those that do a lot of complaining are the ones that coughed up the cash for broken promises.


everyone who bought the ps3 and is now complaining shouldn't be surprised... prior to purchasing your system you should of done your homework... all of the problems with ps3 were well documented straight from the beginning by the numerous reviews out on the internet...

we all knew the games lineup would suck for a while...
we all knew that game developers were having trouble progamming for the ps3...
we all knew the controller didn't have rumble...
we all knew there were compatibility issues with ps2 etc...
we all knew that there would be problems with a first gen of a new console that needed to be worked out.... blah blah blah...

so really to everyone who bought a ps3 and is now dissapointed... realistically what did you expect???

i bought a ps3 on launch and i knew from the beginning it would be sitting there not getting much use till better games and firmware came out because i did my research... in the meantime i got a relatively cheap blu ray player to watch some movies on.

so i'm not complaining because everyone knows that the potential of this machine will eventually be realized sometime this year... the next few months there seems to be some worthwhile, good looking games coming out...

so just sit tight everyone and know that as soon as the good stuff comes you'll be ready for it

[numb555]

^^ Excellent points, to everyone who was an early adopter ... They should have realized that all these problem exists.

Too much hate from fanboys on all side, enjoy what you enjoy ... And stop telling others what is better!

[mapleflag]

...in the meantime i got a relatively cheap blu ray player to watch some movies on.......so i'm not complaining because everyone knows that the potential of this machine will eventually be realized sometime this year... the next few months there seems to be some worthwhile, good looking games coming out...so just sit tight everyone and know that as soon as the good stuff comes you'll be ready for it

I agree :)

[sfu_lifer]

We can bash Sony all we want for arrogance but I do applaud some of the things they've done.
1. They're far more open than Microsoft who tried to lock down the 360 way too much. - more open wireless implementation; more consumer friendly video formats, more consumer friendly audio formats, usb devices that work (i.e. logitech racing wheels), any ol' usb mic, upgradeable HD using whatever 2.5" SATA drive of your choosing, linux support
2. Web browser standard
3. Cheaper offerings off PSN and I think better value too esp when compared to way overpriced VC offerings in the Nintendo store and esp compared to Live arcade.
So Sony isn't as consumer unfriendly as other fanboys claim. They've had their share of missteps but by no means are they all evil.

[firehawk12]

Ignore if this has been posted:
http://immr.client.shareholder.com/ReleaseDetail.cfm?ReleaseID=232152

Sony settles with Immersion. So... looks like rumble's back. :p

[sfu_lifer]

Ignore if this has been posted:
http://immr.client.shareholder.com/ReleaseDetail.cfm?ReleaseID=232152

Sony settles with Immersion. So... looks like rumble's back. :p

You're a day late. jerry posted that already. I'm so glad rumble's back. One more thing out of the PS3 hate list.

[sfu_lifer]

So funny because it's true:
http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2007/20070302.jpg
That is truly how bad the PS store is.

[jerryhussain]

^ :lol:

They'll fix it soon though.

[coeternity]

lol. quite true..took many steps to dwl flow last week :lol:

[jerryhussain]

http://media.1up.com/images/Ratings/1up-75.gif (http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3157687)

[CFRTim]

That little cartoon is too funny :lol:

[GunnerX]

Wow, for a system that's supposed to be the be all and end all for next gen systems, all people can say now is "Shut up and wait!!"? When I bought the system no one ever told me that most of the games will be 720p. No one told me that the system does not scale. No, it wasn't until later that people found this out. So I should just shut up and take it up the rear?

I'm supposed to shell out $700 for a system and keep my mouth shut and wait for a year before I can actually enjoy the system? Is that what being a Playstation owner is about? No wonder why SONY is very arrogant and just keeps spewing lies. Everyone just takes it all in and nods their head.

First they claim that Rumble is not next generation and is not needed. All the fanboys nodded their heads in unison. Then they announce that they made a deal with Immersion and that Rumble is next generation again. All the fanboys nodded their heads in unison and clapped their hands.

SONY announced that the PS Network would be equal to or BETTER than Live when the PS3 is released. All the fanboys nodded their heads and pointed their fingers at the 360 owners telling them that they are doomed. When the poor excuse of a SONY store was revealed SONY said that this is just temporary and expect good things to come! All the SONY fanboys nodded their heads in unison and clapped their hands. Now there's a rumour of the SONY HOME in the future and all the SONY fanboys nodded their heads in unison and jumped up and down.

Do you see a trend here? I definitely do. So if I don't nod my head along with others I don't belong here? I'm just supposed to suck it in and shut up? Man, people need to wake up and smell the BS. No wonder why one of SONY's games on the Store is Lemmings. It fits in perfectly.

[Vertigo]

Wow, for a system that's supposed to be the be all and end all for next gen systems, all people can say now is "Shut up and wait!!"? When I bought the system no one ever told me that most of the games will be 720p. No one told me that the system does not scale. No, it wasn't until later that people found this out. So I should just shut up and take it up the rear?

I'm supposed to shell out $700 for a system and keep my mouth shut and wait for a year before I can actually enjoy the system? Is that what being a Playstation owner is about? No wonder why SONY is very arrogant and just keeps spewing lies. Everyone just takes it all in and nods their head.

First they claim that Rumble is not next generation and is not needed. All the fanboys nodded their heads in unison. Then they announce that they made a deal with Immersion and that Rumble is next generation again. All the fanboys nodded their heads in unison and clapped their hands.

SONY announced that the PS Network would be equal to or BETTER than Live when the PS3 is released. All the fanboys nodded their heads and pointed their fingers at the 360 owners telling them that they are doomed. When the poor excuse of a SONY store was revealed SONY said that this is just temporary and expect good things to come! All the SONY fanboys nodded their heads in unison and clapped their hands. Now there's a rumour of the SONY HOME in the future and all the SONY fanboys nodded their heads in unison and jumped up and down.

Do you see a trend here? I definitely do. So if I don't nod my head along with others I don't belong here? I'm just supposed to suck it in and shut up? Man, people need to wake up and smell the BS. No wonder why one of SONY's games on the Store is Lemmings. It fits in perfectly.

This is one of the very few rants on this board against Sony and their PS3 that's actually backed up with some solid points. As a PS3 owner myself, you've struck a chord with me.

That being said, I'm not quite as pessimistic as you are. ;)

Although I agree that Sony has come much shorter of their promises than expected, the future does still look bright. I picked up the console knowing that as an early adopter, it'd be rough getting off the ground. It is a reality that the best of the PS3 is yet come. As PS3 owners, I'm not suggesting that we just sit here and take everything Sony shoves down our throats. But they do seem to be making some headway in rectifying some of the problems that came with launch (Home, the Immersion settlement, frequent patches, etc.).

Honestly, there's so much BS spewed by both fans and naysayers on these boards that I've pretty much avoided participating in the "discussion," if you can call it that. I'm sure that just by virtue of simply owning a PS3, I'll be labelled a "fanboy" by some ignorant half-wit.

/shrug

[jamgyu]

Wow, for a system that's supposed to be the be all and end all for next gen systems, all people can say now is "Shut up and wait!!"? When I bought the system no one ever told me that most of the games will be 720p. No one told me that the system does not scale. No, it wasn't until later that people found this out. So I should just shut up and take it up the rear?

I'm supposed to shell out $700 for a system and keep my mouth shut and wait for a year before I can actually enjoy the system? Is that what being a Playstation owner is about? No wonder why SONY is very arrogant and just keeps spewing lies. Everyone just takes it all in and nods their head.

First they claim that Rumble is not next generation and is not needed. All the fanboys nodded their heads in unison. Then they announce that they made a deal with Immersion and that Rumble is next generation again. All the fanboys nodded their heads in unison and clapped their hands.

SONY announced that the PS Network would be equal to or BETTER than Live when the PS3 is released. All the fanboys nodded their heads and pointed their fingers at the 360 owners telling them that they are doomed. When the poor excuse of a SONY store was revealed SONY said that this is just temporary and expect good things to come! All the SONY fanboys nodded their heads in unison and clapped their hands. Now there's a rumour of the SONY HOME in the future and all the SONY fanboys nodded their heads in unison and jumped up and down.

Do you see a trend here? I definitely do. So if I don't nod my head along with others I don't belong here? I'm just supposed to suck it in and shut up? Man, people need to wake up and smell the BS. No wonder why one of SONY's games on the Store is Lemmings. It fits in perfectly.


you're right that not all was well for the ps3 from the start... and i agree with you that yes thing's haven't been so great at the beginning...

it's just that it was highly reported from independent reviewers (not from sony) that there would be problems at launch... 1-2 weeks prior to launch most review sites got their test consoles in for review... and then as soon as the first week of sales there were numerous reported issues with such things as the psn... when making ANY big purchase, especially with electronics, its just common sense to wait till you've had a good sense of what the known issues are for the product you buy.

i'm not saying it's right that sony released a product that wasn't FULLY ready at launch time, i'm just saying that some people are overreacting as if all these issues came out of left field and hit them in the back of the head.

[sfu_lifer]

No see, the issue is with Sony's execs. They hyped the PS3 as the second coming of Christ. Turns out it's no better than a 360 just with a Blu-Ray player and an ability to install Linux built in. People have been taking them to task for this. The smart consumer would've done their research in terms of seeing all the PS3 backlash prior to launch (most people saw how crappy the playable ps3 games were at the TGS) that there was absolutely no way for Sony to deliver on the hype. The Cell is not the revolution that Sony/IBM/Toshiba was hyping and the nvidia chip actually is worse than the 360's. It's absolutely true. I and many PS3 owners bought this on potential. Not already realized potential.
It sucks but what can you do? Hate on them forever? I'm a jaded consumer and no way a sony fanboy. I don't agree with their business ethics and their personality as a company-whole truly does suck. But I do see them delivering on some of their promises and there will be good games over the next few months (though I don't see them catching up to the 360 library anytime over the next year in terms of fun and technically great games).
Microsoft especially was pretty good and honest in saying that the PSN has a long road ahead of it to matching Live (and may never get there since it's a free service and there's not much of an incentive to improve a money losing aspect of your strategy). You should've listened to them ;). Sony's online track record isn't exactly stellar and the PSN definitely shows this. It's very much a WIP.
The 360 wouldn't have been all that great at launch last year as well if they weren't the only HD gaming console. So if you do have the ps3, take joy in its secondary use as a blu-ray player :D

[rdtx2002]

to be fair GunnerX.. most people (casual gamers).. don't really see or care about those issues in your post.. because they are either misinformed or just plain sheep ;)

[Emancipated]

Wow, for a system that's supposed to be the be all and end all for next gen systems, all people can say now is "Shut up and wait!!"? When I bought the system no one ever told me that most of the games will be 720p. No one told me that the system does not scale. No, it wasn't until later that people found this out. So I should just shut up and take it up the rear?

I'm supposed to shell out $700 for a system and keep my mouth shut and wait for a year before I can actually enjoy the system? Is that what being a Playstation owner is about? No wonder why SONY is very arrogant and just keeps spewing lies. Everyone just takes it all in and nods their head.

First they claim that Rumble is not next generation and is not needed. All the fanboys nodded their heads in unison. Then they announce that they made a deal with Immersion and that Rumble is next generation again. All the fanboys nodded their heads in unison and clapped their hands.

SONY announced that the PS Network would be equal to or BETTER than Live when the PS3 is released. All the fanboys nodded their heads and pointed their fingers at the 360 owners telling them that they are doomed. When the poor excuse of a SONY store was revealed SONY said that this is just temporary and expect good things to come! All the SONY fanboys nodded their heads in unison and clapped their hands. Now there's a rumour of the SONY HOME in the future and all the SONY fanboys nodded their heads in unison and jumped up and down.

Do you see a trend here? I definitely do. So if I don't nod my head along with others I don't belong here? I'm just supposed to suck it in and shut up? Man, people need to wake up and smell the BS. No wonder why one of SONY's games on the Store is Lemmings. It fits in perfectly.


Shut up. Now, would you prefer lube or straight?

Actually, the whole Sony camp have adopted this supine stance because of their track record. The PSX and PS2 were run away successes, they think the same will happen with the PS3. Microsoft has stolen their thunder and thus far what ever Sony has thrown at them as been countered. For me, I bought the PS3 for the F1 game. Was it worth it? I'm enjoying it enough to say that it is. Sony has the exclusive rights to F1 franchise so for me it's a no brainer. I bought it fully anticipating that I would be sharing time between the two systems. Still there is a pang of regret that Sony didn't or hasn't blown the Xbox out of the water and sent it crying to mommy like so many had predicted. People simply expected more for a $700 system.

[HUH]

not sure if this been posted:

Devil May Cry 4 game demo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9tDL1izErc

[ATLien69]

YES! The F1 game is fantastic! I'm on like the 12th race now in championship mode... finally playing the PS3 way more then my 360!



For me, I bought the PS3 for the F1 game. Was it worth it? I'm enjoying it enough to say that it is. Sony has the exclusive rights to F1 franchise so for me it's a no brainer.

[bembol]

Wow, for a system that's supposed to be the be all and end all for next gen systems, all people can say now is "Shut up and wait!!"? When I bought the system no one ever told me that most of the games will be 720p. No one told me that the system does not scale. No, it wasn't until later that people found this out. So I should just shut up and take it up the rear?

I'm supposed to shell out $700 for a system and keep my mouth shut and wait for a year before I can actually enjoy the system? Is that what being a Playstation owner is about? No wonder why SONY is very arrogant and just keeps spewing lies. Everyone just takes it all in and nods their head...

Never knew about this too...we were looking forward to MotorStorm, the DEMO was a blast...I rarely play ON-LINE but now I find out there's two players SplitScreen...the 720p surprised me too...I thought this was the reason why they delayed a number of games including this, 3-4 months so they could get it right.

Sony did get one thing right and why I still have my PS3...Blu-ray Disc Movies.

[bembol]

So funny because it's true:
http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2007/20070302.jpg
That is truly how bad the PS store is.


LOL

"Okay. Don't move for half an hour."

[jhardy]

Anyone seen F1 for $60? I'm interested, but not at $70.

[Aj23]

So funny because it's true:
http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2007/20070302.jpg
That is truly how bad the PS store is.

THAt pretty funny and true

LOL

[Aj23]

ALl the stuff for Ps3 will be updated and there will be new games and things. In a few months or so the ps3 will be the ultimate gaming machine out not that it isnt rigt now but it will have many more games updates accessories and other things just watch.

[Emancipated]

Anyone seen F1 for $60? I'm interested, but not at $70.

I'll sell you my copy for $60 no tax. It's imported so unless you can read Japanese, you might want to pony up the extra $10.

[Waiwai]

Don't know if this was posted or not, Warhawk is now multiplayer only. 32 players, land/air lots of customization and stats. For info, check the ign weekly video.

[phejy]

Wow, for a system that's supposed to be the be all and end all for next gen systems, all people can say now is "Shut up and wait!!"? When I bought the system no one ever told me that most of the games will be 720p. No one told me that the system does not scale. No, it wasn't until later that people found this out. So I should just shut up and take it up the rear?

I'm supposed to shell out $700 for a system and keep my mouth shut and wait for a year before I can actually enjoy the system? Is that what being a Playstation owner is about? No wonder why SONY is very arrogant and just keeps spewing lies. Everyone just takes it all in and nods their head.

First they claim that Rumble is not next generation and is not needed. All the fanboys nodded their heads in unison. Then they announce that they made a deal with Immersion and that Rumble is next generation again. All the fanboys nodded their heads in unison and clapped their hands.

SONY announced that the PS Network would be equal to or BETTER than Live when the PS3 is released. All the fanboys nodded their heads and pointed their fingers at the 360 owners telling them that they are doomed. When the poor excuse of a SONY store was revealed SONY said that this is just temporary and expect good things to come! All the SONY fanboys nodded their heads in unison and clapped their hands. Now there's a rumour of the SONY HOME in the future and all the SONY fanboys nodded their heads in unison and jumped up and down.

Do you see a trend here? I definitely do. So if I don't nod my head along with others I don't belong here? I'm just supposed to suck it in and shut up? Man, people need to wake up and smell the BS. No wonder why one of SONY's games on the Store is Lemmings. It fits in perfectly.

What you're describe is very typical to in the business world. Companies will not tell you to "Don't buy our product yet, we're still working on it". Did Microsoft not make bogus claims about XBOX and Vista? Microsoft claimed the 360 was the greatest thing in gaming when it first came out, but the first games weren't much better than the latest last gen games. New products always has growing pains, it's expected. It depends on whether you believe the company is there to support it and make it better or just throw something out there and make a quick buck.

XBOX 360 and especially Vista are important enough to Microsoft so you can count on them to fully support both. PS3 is one of Sony's most important products so you can count on them to be fully behind it so things will improve. Online will get better and good games are already starting to come out. Vista sales are slow because of driver and other issues, but I'm sure it will be great because Microsoft is not going to let it fail.

So singling Sony out is not right, it's the way the world works right now. I don't like it either, but it is the way it is.

[jhardy]

I'll sell you my copy for $60 no tax. It's imported so unless you can read Japanese, you might want to pony up the extra $10.
No online in that version?

[Emancipated]

No online in that version?

Did I neglect to mention that part?:o

[jeffyjaixx]

Heavenly Sword for the PS3 was shown on NBC's show "HEROES":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRPaYJAJI-g

Wow, it looks like the next gen version of God of War! Sick!

[rahzel]

not sure if this been posted:

Devil May Cry 4 game demo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9tDL1izErc
new to me. nice to see someone good playing the demo. can't wait for DMC4.

thanks for sharing.

[sfu_lifer]

Heavenly Sword for the PS3 was shown on NBC's show "HEROES":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRPaYJAJI-g

Wow, it looks like the next gen version of God of War! Sick!

Don't let that mislead you thinking the whole game is like that. There are some not-so-hot looking/mundane stages that don't require the quicktime events. This way you won't set yourself up for disappointment later in the fall ;)

[sfu_lifer]

THAt pretty funny and true

LOL
They forgot a step at the very end, another disclaimer then an installation part :evil:
They really should ape the 360 when it comes to online. Put your points, add it to your Q, come back later and play it. Nothing else to do.

[jeffyjaixx]

Don't let that mislead you thinking the whole game is like that. There are some not-so-hot looking/mundane stages that don't require the quicktime events. This way you won't set yourself up for disappointment later in the fall ;)

Well, if it's anything like God of War but with next gen graphics and a female protagonist... count me in!

I heard it's coming out June 1, 2007?

[BigBadBoo]

Don't let that mislead you thinking the whole game is like that. There are some not-so-hot looking/mundane stages that don't require the quicktime events. This way you won't set yourself up for disappointment later in the fall ;)

Inside info I see. It looks cool but its almost always the same footage over and over again, so I'm not holding my breath. The style is neat though.

[sfu_lifer]

Well, if it's anything like God of War but with next gen graphics and a female protagonist... count me in!

I heard it's coming out June 1, 2007?
I heard it's been pushed back to Fall. Makes sense considering we haven't seen much since TGS and even in that Heroes product placement, it's a similar demo we've seen before. I'd love for it to be in June.

[Sprite_TM]

does F1 work on only firmware 1.32 and up?

[rahzel]

I heard it's been pushed back to Fall. Makes sense considering we haven't seen much since TGS and even in that Heroes product placement, it's a similar demo we've seen before. I'd love for it to be in June.
the footage on Heroes was completely new.

[Jaytee]

Has anyone seen Motorstorm for sale anywhere yet?

[jamgyu]

here's an updated list of PS3 games release dates:

http://ps3.ign.com/index/release.html

[Mike71]

Anyone seen Motorstorm anywhere today? Its supposed to be released on the 6th.

[sfu_lifer]

the footage on Heroes was completely new.

I know it was "new", it's similar to what we've seen before (i.e. art assets).
Oh BTW, in case you don't monitor the hot deals, Blu-Ray 50% off sale at Amazon. Some nice deals there (only select titles but many are good enough to keep).

As for Motorstorm, I haven't seen it. Give it one or two days :)

[Lando]

I phoned two local WalMarts and a gaming specialty store and nobody has MotorStorm yet .. said to phone back tomorrow.

[Jaytee]

I phoned two local WalMarts and a gaming specialty store and nobody has MotorStorm yet .. said to phone back tomorrow.

EB told me tomorrow also.

[jeffyjaixx]

I know it was "new", it's similar to what we've seen before (i.e. art assets).
Oh BTW, in case you don't monitor the hot deals, Blu-Ray 50% off sale at Amazon. Some nice deals there (only select titles but many are good enough to keep).

As for Motorstorm, I haven't seen it. Give it one or two days :)

Is this amazon.ca or amazon.com? :)

[bembol]

.com


50 First Dates
A Knight's Tale
Alien vs. Predator
Behind Enemy Lines
Black Hawk Down
Bubble
District B13
Enron - The Smartest Guys in the Room
Entrapment
Fantastic Four
HDNet World Report - Shuttle Discovery's Historic Mission
Hitch
House of Flying Daggers
Into the Blue
Kiss of the Dragon
Kung Fu Hustle
Memento
One Last Thing...
Planet of the Apes
Resident Evil Apocalypse
S.W.A.T.
Speed
Stealth
Tears of the Sun
The Big Hit
The Fifth Element
The Marine
The Sentinel
The War Within
The World's Fastest Indian
Transporter
Transporter 2
xXx

[rahzel]

new Heavenly Sword video (HD).
http://www.playsyde.com/news_4070_en.html

this game looks amazing.

[jeffyjaixx]

new Heavenly Sword video (HD).
http://www.playsyde.com/news_4070_en.html

this game looks amazing.

Yup, just watched that.

Hope it's coming out sometime in early summer :).

[Mike71]

.com


50 First Dates
A Knight's Tale
Alien vs. Predator
Behind Enemy Lines
Black Hawk Down
Bubble
District B13
Enron - The Smartest Guys in the Room
Entrapment
Fantastic Four
HDNet World Report - Shuttle Discovery's Historic Mission
Hitch
House of Flying Daggers
Into the Blue
Kiss of the Dragon
Kung Fu Hustle
Memento
One Last Thing...
Planet of the Apes
Resident Evil Apocalypse
S.W.A.T.
Speed
Stealth
Tears of the Sun
The Big Hit
The Fifth Element
The Marine
The Sentinel
The War Within
The World's Fastest Indian
Transporter
Transporter 2
xXx


Thanks for the tips on the Blu-Ray. I'm ordering some now and I hope I don't get dinged too much with customs and duties.

[jerryhussain]

2 DAYS 2 VEGAS

http://media.psu.com/albums/2_days_to_vegas/city_09.jpg

http://media.psu.com/albums/2_days_to_vegas/city_02.jpg

http://media.psu.com/albums/2_days_to_vegas/city_04.jpg

http://media.psu.com/albums/2_days_to_vegas/city_06.jpg

http://media.psu.com/albums/2_days_to_vegas/city_05.jpg

http://media.psu.com/albums/2_days_to_vegas/city_07.jpg

http://media.psu.com/albums/2_days_to_vegas/city_01.jpg http://media.psu.com/albums/2_days_to_vegas/city_03.jpg http://media.psu.com/albums/2_days_to_vegas/city_08.jpg

[jeffyjaixx]

[CENTER]2 DAYS 2 VEGAS



Nice screenshots, is that from the PS3?

I've never heard of this game.

[jerryhussain]

Nice screenshots, is that from the PS3?

I've never heard of this game.
Yes. The screens are supposedly in-game. :eek:

P.S. Can you edit the images out from your post, its making the page too long to browse. ;)

[jeffyjaixx]

Yes. The screens are supposedly in-game. :eek:

P.S. Can you edit the images out from your post, its making the page too long to browse. ;)

Done. :)

Wow, it looks amazing for an in-game.

[Lando]

Thanks for the tips on the Blu-Ray. I'm ordering some now and I hope I don't get dinged too much with customs and duties.

Blu-Ray orders on Amazon.com, strangely enough, don't get charged any duties or taxes! Makes the deal even hotter ..

[jeffyjaixx]

Blu-Ray orders on Amazon.com, strangely enough, don't get charged any duties or taxes! Makes the deal even hotter ..

Do we get free shipping over $25 or not?

I couldn't find the free shipping option...

[GunnerX]

Do we get free shipping over $25 or not?

I couldn't find the free shipping option...

No free shipping to Canada. My last order was stopped by customs and dinged on tax and customs bs charge. So YMMV.

[jeffyjaixx]

No free shipping to Canada. My last order was stopped by customs and dinged on tax and customs bs charge. So YMMV.

How many did you order and what was the total?

I have a feeling it has something to do with how much your order costs...

[Badman]

Those screens look amazing.
I think this will be my expectations for GTA4

[GunnerX]

How many did you order and what was the total?

I have a feeling it has something to do with how much your order costs...

Ordered 4 with a total of $90 USD.

[Emancipated]

http://boards.ign.com/2_days_to_vegas/b8353/124345731/p1/

[rahzel]

http://boards.ign.com/2_days_to_vegas/b8353/124345731/p1/
seems like its still on for the PS3. they even talk about how blu-ray was an asset.

http://www.psu.com/node/8467

[CFRTim]

WOW, I am confused; on the PSU site you get:" The studio, Steel Monkey Limited, is based in Canada" http://www.psu.com/node/8467
However, steelmonkey.com , the makers of the game, claims to be from Belarus & UK, WTF? not even close. Where does PlayStation Universe get their facts from??? And btw according to steelmonkey.com the game is for PC. http://www.steelmonkeys.com/

[Firestorm]

PlayStation Home is coming this Fall. NYTimes reported it early, just like they did with the Wii pricing/release date =P

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/07/arts/design/07game.html?_r=1&ref=technology&oref=slogin

[jerryhussain]

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/770/770561/warhawk-20070306032214903.jpg

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/770/770791/warhawk-20070306032752522.jpg

Online only
25 Maps in 5 different environments
September release
Could be available on PSN only, disc or both

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/770/770561p1.html

[Emancipated]

One word: disappointing.

[jerryhussain]

One word: disappointing.
Depends on the pricing.

[sfu_lifer]

Depends on the pricing.
Nah this game held no promise from the start. Still looks like crap and probably controls like one too. If anything, the suxasses motion control is a gimmick. Pretty inaccurate and I've heard from devs and they all hate it esp when compared to the Wii's implementation. I hope the Lair team proves me wrong but I'm certainly not holding my breath. I'd also rather move the stuff in fl0w using the analog stick.
That 2days2vegas game makes crackdown and Saints Row look like cartoons.

[Lando]

Somebody from another forum (digitalhome) just got a copy of MotorStorm at EBG in Pointe Claire (near Montreal ?), so they do exist in Canada now!

[Jaytee]

Somebody from another forum (digitalhome) just got a copy of MotorStorm at EBG in Pointe Claire (near Montreal ?), so they do exist in Canada now!

According to online, Markham East Futureshop has stock now.

[ATLien69]

Yup just got a call from EBG, my preorder for Motorstorm is in! whoop!

[JayPatel]

Playstation HOME

Looks cool

http://download.gametrailers.com/gt_vault/t_home_gdc07_h264.wmv

[jerryhussain]

HOME

http://xs413.xs.to/xs413/07103/1.jpeg

http://xs413.xs.to/xs413/07103/3.jpeg

http://xs413.xs.to/xs413/07103/4.jpeg

VIDEO (http://download.gametrailers.com/gt_vault/t_home_gdc07_h264.wmv)

[JayPatel]

Little BigPLanet

Uhh Wow

http://download.gametrailers.com/gt_vault/t_littlebigplanet_gdc07_h264.wmv


Live blog of the Phil Harrison Conference

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=73821

[jerryhussain]

LITTLE BIG PLANET
(New Game)

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s276/kurowasan/t_littlebigplanet_gdc07_h264_1.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s276/kurowasan/t_littlebigplanet_gdc07_h264_5.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s276/kurowasan/t_littlebigplanet_gdc07_h264_4.jpg

VIDEO (http://download.gametrailers.com/gt_vault/t_littlebigplanet_gdc07_h264.wmv)

[jerryhussain]

Explaining that this was a work-in-progress and it wouldn't be a part of his GDC Keynote the following morning, Sony Computer Entertainment Worldwide Studios President Phil Harrison wanted a way to point at the power that the PlayStation 3 could unlock. At the conclusion of a presentation that unveiled 'Home' and the irrefutably smart LittleBigPlanet, Sony showed us Killzone.

It wasn't called 'Killzone 2,' it was just called 'Killzone' and the video footage appeared to be artifacted somehow. It wasn't the clear, crisp HD footage Harrison's presentation had been populated with -- it was almost like an afterthought. It didn't look as good as the fake-footage we saw at E3 2005, but it didn't look bad, either. It was just a half-hearted show of particle effects, bullets ripping through warehouses, tearing apart kitchens and showcasing the rag doll physics in the Killzone engine. If the footage ever surfaces, it'll likely be treated as an 'engine' demonstration, but the first-person perspective, gunplay and action clearly show gameplay in some state.
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3157798

[ATLien69]

That Little Big Planet seems pretty cool....but more like a tech demo then a game....

[Chandler]

think the idea of little big planet is for you to play around with the tools and upload your creations on a youtube-like service

sounds interesting

[Jaytee]

All the Futureshops seems to have Motorstorm now. I just got my copy.

[Emancipated]

Yup just got a call from EBG, my preorder for Motorstorm is in! whoop!

Visual confirmation from Dufferin Mall's EBG. They also had GRAW2 but @ $69.99.

[bembol]

Picked up MotorStorm @ Best Buy (PM FutureShop's $59.99)

[Emancipated]

Picked up MotorStorm @ Best Buy (PM FutureShop's $59.99)

Did you have to bring in a print out? I dont' have a working printer. Damnit.

[bembol]

Nope just told the cashier...lately they don't look it up, PM on the spot/10% difference.

[sfu_lifer]

Not too impressed with Little Big Planet/Pikmi- looking game. The PSHome seems kind of neat but it all depends on what you can do between games. That's what the hardcore want (cross-communication, game invites without having to enter the xmb). Kind of neat though to have the virtual life type atmosphere and it's great that it's for free. Let's see them deliver. Sony's track record on hyperbole vs delivery has been quite spotty. Great news but my expectations are tempered since Sony's great at hyping. But hey, good news out of Sony for once.
Heh, I found this posted in an xbox forum:
Amazing concept, except for the micro-transactions. As one poster said:

For the launch, you get to be homeless and living in the park.

After we get everything coded, you can pay us for clothes, an apartment, and maybe then people will actually care about talking to you.

If you choose not to pay, you will remain homeless and the more affluent Home users will have an emote that will allow them to urinate on you as you helplessly watch them pass.

Dont forget to use the Sixaxis to shake off the last few drops! :lol:

[ShadowVlican]

Playstation HOME

Looks cool

http://download.gametrailers.com/gt_vault/t_home_gdc07_h264.wmv
Little BigPLanet

Uhh Wow

http://download.gametrailers.com/gt_vault/t_littlebigplanet_gdc07_h264.wmv


Live blog of the Phil Harrison Conference

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=73821
all of a sudden, i want a PS3.

[jeffyjaixx]

Damn... Home looks really innovative.

I can't wait for Big Little Planet :lol:

[Brownbear]

all of a sudden, i want a PS3.
Thats exactly what im thinking.

when is little big planet getting released?

[thecharlie]

all of a sudden, i want a PS3.

That "Home" walkthrough sealed the deal for me. I'm getting my hands on one as soon as it comes out.

[jeffyjaixx]

Thats exactly what im thinking.

when is little big planet getting released?

around early 2008.

[Emancipated]

I see myself spending more time in "Home" than I do gaming. It would be cool if they could some how integrate the content you're playing through the "home" display. That is, your avatar's home where he has flatscreen. In the preview, they said you can customize your "home" and add accessories and we even got a glimpse of the display showing games. It would probably be too process intensive.

Cool idea though. Would be nice if we could truly customize our avatar by importing faces like in RainbowSix:Vegas.

[sfu_lifer]

I see myself spending more time in "Home" than I do gaming. It would be cool if they could some how integrate the content you're playing through the "home" display. That is, your avatar's home where he has flatscreen. In the preview, they said you can customize your "home" and add accessories and we even got a glimpse of the display showing games. It would probably be too process intensive.

Cool idea though. Would be nice if we could truly customize our avatar by importing faces like in RainbowSix:Vegas.
I'm sure that's coming at some point. Let's see them deliver the "Home" first. I doubt it's something that's launchable from within the game instantly (i.e. no loads). I also think I'll spend lots of time in the Home areas. I just hope there will be more co-op games coming from the PS3. I seem to play that lots on Live.
Now all we need is a more full-fledged online experience, more quality games, rumble and lower pricing and the PS3 will really take off.

[rdtx2002]

it's understandable for people not to be impressed by LittleBigPlanet.. but I think we can all agree that the concept of the game is at least interesting and warrants a 'try'

[jimbojones]

If Playstation delivers on this it will force Microsoft to reconsider charging for Xbox Live. I think it's a mistake to charge people on Windows for Live. They get away with it on Xbox because it's the only choice, but on PC it's always been free to play online. It's especially ridiculous when you consider MS doesn't even provide any dedicated game servers.
Any way you look at it I think it's great that Sony is improving the online experience without any charge for it. This will only force MS to improve and maybe even make Live free. I'm guessing it will be funded in the future through ads, just like other online services.
P.S. I only own Xbox and Xbox 360, but I'm very happy to see what Sony is doing.

[sfu_lifer]

If Playstation delivers on this it will force Microsoft to reconsider charging for Xbox Live. I think it's a mistake to charge people on Windows for Live. They get away with it on Xbox because it's the only choice, but on PC it's always been free to play online. It's especially ridiculous when you consider MS doesn't even provide any dedicated game servers.
Any way you look at it I think it's great that Sony is improving the online experience without any charge for it. This will only force MS to improve and maybe even make Live free. I'm guessing it will be funded in the future through ads, just like other online services.
P.S. I only own Xbox and Xbox 360, but I'm very happy to see what Sony is doing.

Oh I hear ya. The only reason I have Live is that I got them for "free" when I bought Ghost Recon and Splinter Cell. It's a much better experience than the Playstation Network so far but I hope this forces MS's hands to innovate. If a "free" service is better than their paid one, what's the point. They were the only game in town before but if/when Sony matches their reliability and featureset, they'll have to prove themselves once more.

[ShadowVlican]

it's understandable for people not to be impressed by LittleBigPlanet.. but I think we can all agree that the concept of the game is at least interesting and warrants a 'try'
actually i'm quite impressed (i've watched every single trailer of it at http://www.gametrailers.com/)

i love how cooperative gameplay is actually cooperative..... i was smiling as i watched all the trailers :-0

creating game levels is a GREAT feature.... one because now the game is OURS and two because there are some really creative people out there just waiting for this

not to mention the sony rep making the little game character do the "rock and roll" just sealed the deal :lol:

[Fantaz]

Well it looks like PlayStation HOME will become the de facto standard for all upcoming PlayStation consoles. Xbox Live costs money while this is way cooler and is absolutely free! I think we see who's the clear winner here.

Just imagine the time when PlayStation 5 gets released and we'll be older playing mature mystery thriller games made for our generation!

[jeffyjaixx]

Some pics of Motorstorm from a friend:

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/5600/dsc05826pk4.jpg

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/9989/dsc05834qe5.jpg

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/4503/dsc05813qc3.jpg

http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/741/dsc05814vd3.jpg

http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/6339/dsc05821ne4.jpg

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/6133/dsc05817go5.jpg

Looks good :)

[bembol]

Just saw the Trailer for LBP...interesting!!

[jhardy]

...not to mention the sony rep making the little game character do the "rock and roll" just sealed the deal :lol:

I thought that was a jab at "monkey boy". Was he on drugs when he did that "Developers, developers" thing?

[hightechfan]

Well it looks like PlayStation HOME will become the de facto standard for all upcoming PlayStation consoles. Xbox Live costs money while this is way cooler and is absolutely free! I think we see who's the clear winner here.

Just imagine the time when PlayStation 5 gets released and we'll be older playing mature mystery thriller games made for our generation!

I would not go as far as to say this make the ps3 the clear winner.They need to get alot of games out asap this is where there in some trouble.They aslo need to get more demos on there vc.People are not going to spend $600 just to get the home feature.People want the over all package.

[ShadowVlican]

I thought that was a jab at "monkey boy". Was he on drugs when he did that "Developers, developers" thing?
i'm not too great at picking up references (i have no idea what "monkey boy" is)

but man that was cool when he did that :lol: finally a game character that i can control limb movements! :twisted:

[jhardy]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dance_Monkeyboy

[joshmxpx]

'Home' looks pretty cool, but how long before it just turns into another Second
Life, and all people use it for is sex and making money?

If people thought hot coffee was bad, wait until someone figures out a hack to have sex in home!

[jerryhussain]

Not too impressed with Little Big Planet/Pikmi- looking game. The PSHome seems kind of neat but it all depends on what you can do between games. That's what the hardcore want (cross-communication, game invites without having to enter the xmb). Kind of neat though to have the virtual life type atmosphere and it's great that it's for free. Let's see them deliver. Sony's track record on hyperbole vs delivery has been quite spotty. Great news but my expectations are tempered since Sony's great at hyping. But hey, good news out of Sony for once.
For me Home was very bland and their achievement room didnt look hot at all.

Little Big Planet on the other hand was more impressive, it also got more applause at the keynote and also all the online media has equally appreciated it.

[Mike71]

Anyone played Motorstorm yet? I just picked it up and I loved the demo so hopefully its alot of fun. Will give my impressions later once I get some "play time" in.

[jeffyjaixx]

Anyone played Motorstorm yet? I just picked it up and I loved the demo so hopefully its alot of fun. Will give my impressions later once I get some "play time" in.

Nope... amazon hasn't shipped mine out yet >:(

Some pics of Motorstorm from a friend:

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/5600/dsc05826pk4.jpg

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/9989/dsc05834qe5.jpg

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/4503/dsc05813qc3.jpg

http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/741/dsc05814vd3.jpg

http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/6339/dsc05821ne4.jpg

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/6133/dsc05817go5.jpg

[numb555]

How is the ONLINE for Motorstorm?

A couple of friends and I are planning to pick this up on the weekend. And thanks for the screenshot..game looks sweet!

[Marlek]

How is the ONLINE for Motorstorm?

A couple of friends and I are planning to pick this up on the weekend. And thanks for the screenshot..game looks sweet!

Not too many frills, but the gameplay is smooth and lag free. Definitely a blast to play.

[Dangard Ace]

How is the ONLINE for Motorstorm?

A couple of friends and I are planning to pick this up on the weekend. And thanks for the screenshot..game looks sweet!

Really fast, furious, and tough. Zero lag here and I'm running the thing off wireless. Some of these online gamers must've spent 48hrs since it came out playing it. How they've managed to memorize all the shortcuts/nooks/crannies is beyond me. Then again my fame ranking is:Zero. :razz: :lol:

[sfu_lifer]

Well it looks like PlayStation HOME will become the de facto standard for all upcoming PlayStation consoles. Xbox Live costs money while this is way cooler and is absolutely free! I think we see who's the clear winner here.

Just imagine the time when PlayStation 5 gets released and we'll be older playing mature mystery thriller games made for our generation!
While PSHome does look neat, they still haven't caught up to Xbox Live yet in terms of integration and ease of use. Let's wait till Fall before we crown them. Xbox Live costs money for a reason. PSHome is basically Sony's version of Second Life with a dose of Wii and Xbox Live thrown in. Let's see cross-game chats w/o going thru XMB, game invites, etc. Those are what makes Xbox Live what it is. Once/if Sony has been able to copy them, then we'll talk :)
Motorstorm got boring quite fast. I dunno, something feels missing. I can't quite put my finger on it. Looks nice though I've had more fun playing Sega Rally. Say is there a list of PS3 tags that someone's compiling? So we can all get some Resistance/Motorstorm action going?

[HUH]

Heavenly Sword game play demo:

http://ruliweb2.empas.com/ruliboard/read.htm?num=23936&table=game_ps04&main=ps

[CFRTim]

Not very impressed with this whole Playstation Home thing; looks like nothing more than a Sims game to me; this is not what I want from a console. I have a feeling by the time this comes out, the hype will be all gone, and we are stuck with a pointless sim game. I am still waiting on Gran Turismo for the PSP, that was the reason & hype why I got the PSP in the first place, but now I don't even care anymore.

[rdtx2002]

Not very impressed with this whole Playstation Home thing; looks like nothing more than a Sims game to me; this is not what I want from a console. I have a feeling by the time this comes out, the hype will be all gone, and we are stuck with a pointless sim game. I am still waiting on Gran Turismo for the PSP, that was the reason & hype why I got the PSP in the first place, but now I don't even care anymore.

urr... Home is not a game... it's a VR Meeting place..

you have it all wrong

[TechRock]

oh man little big planet seriously making me considering gettting a ps3

[BaconMunch]

oh man little big planet seriously making me considering gettting a ps3

Let's keep this in perspective and watch how LBP develops, from the 1up interview with Phil Harisson:

1UP: You mentioned that you would have it available on PlayStation network first and then later on -- perhaps a half year or year later -- available on Blu-ray. That made me think that you're going to use the best user submitted levels and actually put that stuff in the retail version. Is that the case?
Phil: Very perceptive, yeah.

[Ed's note: This means your levels/games could potentially be featured in the retail version of LittleBigPlanet! Freaking sweet!]

So my take is you're going to by the game on PSN, and then when the final version comes out, you buy the game? Best case scenario is you're given a demo with a level editor with 100% functionality for free, worst case is you buy a game that's 20% done, then you buy the game on blu-ray when it's completed.

[CFRTim]

urr... Home is not a game... it's a VR Meeting place..

you have it all wrong

All I said is that it looks like a sim game, you and SONY can call it whatever you want; for all I know it could be a PR Marketing place.....

[rdtx2002]

Best case scenario is you're given a demo with a level editor with 100% functionality for free, worst case is you buy a game that's 20% done, then you buy the game on blu-ray when it's completed.


Or you get a coupon when you buy the online version so you can receive the retail version for free thru Playstation.com or something.

Thinking is.. even when the game comes out of Bluray.. it still won't be 'complete' because there should still be more levels being made every single day

[rdtx2002]

All I said is that it looks like a sim game, you and SONY can call it whatever you want; for all I know it could be a PR Marketing place.....

it looks like a sim game.. but your final comment was that it will end up as a pointless sim game. and the point of Home is not to be a pointless sim game.. it's a VR world

[ShadowVlican]

1UP: You mentioned that you would have it available on PlayStation network first and then later on -- perhaps a half year or year later -- available on Blu-ray. That made me think that you're going to use the best user submitted levels and actually put that stuff in the retail version. Is that the case?
Phil: Very perceptive, yeah.

[Ed's note: This means your levels/games could potentially be featured in the retail version of LittleBigPlanet! Freaking sweet!]
impressive :twisted:

[sfu_lifer]

impressive :twisted:
IMO, not really. It's smart marketing that's for sure. Use your users to create content you'll put out in the future and line your pockets, not theirs (after they've paid their admittance for the level editor and base levels). Genius idea in the console world. I'm surprised MS hasn't thought of this first knowing how great they are at proposing nickel and diming us to death.

[hightechfan]

IMO, not really. It's smart marketing that's for sure. Use your users to create content you'll put out in the future and line your pockets, not theirs (after they've paid their admittance for the level editor and base levels). Genius idea in the console world. I'm surprised MS hasn't thought of this first knowing how great they are at proposing nickel and diming us to death.

MS has been more interested in getting games out then this type of thing.

[joshmxpx]

Not very impressed with this whole Playstation Home thing; looks like nothing more than a Sims game to me; this is not what I want from a console. I have a feeling by the time this comes out, the hype will be all gone, and we are stuck with a pointless sim game. I am still waiting on Gran Turismo for the PSP, that was the reason & hype why I got the PSP in the first place, but now I don't even care anymore.

Gran Turismo 1 and 2 have been available for the psp for a few months now, thanks to Dark Angel.

Home is like Second Life for the PS3, not a game with objectives and points, more like an online community where you can interact with other avatars and meet other gamers.

As for a new GT game for the psp, there are no plans for that.

[CFRTim]

As for a new GT game for the psp, there are no plans for that.

Well that wasn't the case when the PSP came out, I thought there is even a release date, that keeps on getting pushed back (very normal for SONY)

[Badman]

I never knew Motorstorm looked so good and i have the demo:confused:

I guess thats what its like when missing HD. After seeing those pics i think i might pick it up now.

[Emancipated]

it looks like a sim game.. but your final comment was that it will end up as a pointless sim game. and the point of Home is not to be a pointless sim game.. it's a VR world

Couldn't it technically be called a game? What makes a game, a game? I know it's mostly semantics, but please indulge me. You are a character within a virtual world much like any other so-called game, and you are enjoying your interactions. You could argue the objectives in "home" are on a smaller scale than The Sims, but that doesn't negate the fact that it's pretty much cut from the same cloth. I think so.

P.S I read the same developers or engine used in Motorstorm will also be used for DIRT (Colin McCrae forthcoming title)

[rdtx2002]

MS has been more interested in getting games out then this type of thing.

well.... not to be an ass.. but it ain't really doing a good job of that either ;)

[rdtx2002]

Couldn't it technically be called a game? What makes a game, a game? I know it's mostly semantics, but please indulge me. You are a character within a virtual world much like any other so-called game, and you are enjoying your interactions. You could argue the objectives in "home" are on a smaller scale than The Sims, but that doesn't negate the fact that it's pretty much cut from the same cloth. I think so.

P.S I read the same developers or engine used in Motorstorm will also be used for DIRT (Colin McCrae forthcoming title)

a game has a purpose, and has a goal that you need to achieve and there are restrictions to your goal (HP, MP, gil, gold, whatever). When you reach a goal, it's game over and there is nothing more for you to do

a VR meeting place like HOME is what it is.. a meeting place to make friends and interact with people. there are infinite amount of things you can do. you can play games together, watch movie trailers together. there is no 'goal', there are no 'restrictions'.

think of it this way.. imagine yourself in HOME doing your daily routines (for example).. now.. would you call your daily interactions with people a 'game'?

you can say HOME is game-like in the way you make avatars.. but you can't say that HOME is purely a 'game'

[GunnerX]

a game has a purpose, and has a goal that you need to achieve and there are restrictions to your goal (HP, MP, gil, gold, whatever). When you reach a goal, it's game over and there is nothing more for you to do

a VR meeting place like HOME is what it is.. a meeting place to make friends and interact with people. there are infinite amount of things you can do. you can play games together, watch movie trailers together. there is no 'goal', there are no 'restrictions'.

think of it this way.. imagine yourself in HOME doing your daily routines (for example).. now.. would you call your daily interactions with people a 'game'?

you can say HOME is game-like in the way you make avatars.. but you can't say that HOME is purely a 'game'

You should apply to SONY for a job in marketing. You're quite good at regurgitating what they say. PSU already does a lot of these things and it is a game.

[GunnerX]

Here's the FAQ for HOME.

http://www.scedev.net/home/Third%20Party%20Relations%20Q%26A.pdf

[rdtx2002]

You should apply to SONY for a job in marketing. You're quite good at regurgitating what they say. PSU already does a lot of these things and it is a game.

PSU, FFXI and .hack are all MMORPG games that have role playing elements, there is a set goal to achieve... last that I know, HOME isn't an MMORPG.. it's an MMO.. but it doesn't have typical game elements.

if you can't understand this.. there is no use talking to you anymore.. since all that ever spews out is indirect fanboyish remarks anyways.

the guy wanted an explanation.. and I gave him my opinion.. i don't need people like you being an ass and claiming that I should work at SONY.. if you can't add to the conversation.. don't ****ing say anything.

geez... give an explanation.. and you are labelled again..

[kevin01]

PDX released more ISOs today, and now everyone is waiting for the 3rd one. The 3rd one is supposed to have info on the release of the ISO LOADER i believe in the NFO file. You can go on PS3NEWS' iRC Chat (http://www.ps3news.com/index.php?page=chat) to be there if they release it.

[CFRTim]

geez... give an explanation.. and you are labelled again..
It's how you explain it, that gives you the label. Look, I really don't care what you have to say(explain), but to me Home is not what I want from my console, to you it's the best thing since slice bread.

[bmaz]

It's how you explain it, that gives you the label. Look, I really don't care what you have to say(explain), but to me Home is not what I want from my console, to you it's the best thing since slice bread.
If its not what you want then you don't have to participate, it's that simply.
It's not something that you will be required to pay for.

[joshmxpx]

there is no use talking to you anymore.. since all that ever spews out is indirect fanboyish remarks anyways.

well isn't that the kettle calling the pot black...

[sfu_lifer]

well isn't that the kettle calling the pot black...

That may be true but @Home is still free. That's the big draw. Or at least it's "free" although of course to get the most out of it and decorate your pad, you'll have to earn it either thru sony-style achievements or by purchasing items. Though Sony is behind in terms of getting their users online, I think it may be a decent revenue source for them down the pipe.
It still doesn't address the lack of cross-game chat/game invites but it does introduce people to a decent chat hall interface if they want to make friends. The fact that it's free makes it easier for everyone. It's still a WIP so we'll see whether the experience is decent and relatively lag-free. Sony online is not bad especially considering the cost but of course their servers aren't exactly being stress tested like Live. Sony is making some excellent moves lately and is showing they are waking up. I still feel they are way behind the others in terms of carving out an identity for the PS3. Wii = simple and innovative; 360 = more of the same, just better; and PS3 = ? (something other than being the premium console but so far failed to deliver a premium gameplay experience).

[Mike71]

Well, back to something that I am interested in.:D MOTORSTORM KICKS ASS!!!!!:eek: The graphics are totally next-gen and the gameplay is really sweet and the races are never the same twice. The crashes are absolutely spectacular, and dare I say better than Burnout. This is the kind of racing game I really like. I'm not into sim racing where you can adjust and add and tweak every part of your car so this game is perfect for me. I'm just getting started on it but I definately like what I see. Ok, back to @home and whatever else y'all have been discussing.;)

[sfu_lifer]

Well, back to something that I am interested in.:D MOTORSTORM KICKS ASS!!!!!:eek: The graphics are totally next-gen and the gameplay is really sweet and the races are never the same twice. The crashes are absolutely spectacular, and dare I say better than Burnout. This is the kind of racing game I really like. I'm not into sim racing where you can adjust and add and tweak every part of your car so this game is perfect for me. I'm just getting started on it but I definately like what I see. Ok, back to @home and whatever else y'all have been discussing.;)

Let us know of your progress after a few days. I've been playing it and got bored quite quickly since once you memorize the very very limited number of courses, that's pretty much it both offline and online :(
I expect a more fully fledged out racing experience next year since obviously they ran out of time in order to get this out asap.

[bembol]

Do doubt it's THE GAME to get for the PS3!

But the single player killed the mood here tonight/party. :( :mad:


Rented Virtua Fighter 5. Very weak overall, not even worth renting.

[sfu_lifer]

Do doubt it's THE GAME to get for the PS3!

But the single player killed the mood here tonight/party. :( :mad:


Rented Virtua Fighter 5. Very weak overall, not even worth renting.

No way, VF5 rocks. If you're a Tekken/Soul Calibur fan, you probably won't dig the slower more methodical gameplay but for people who like technical fighters, this fits the bill quite nicely. Looks pretty good too (not as good as Motorstorm but I think it gives DOA a run for its money).

[Emancipated]

Log on to your PS3 today and you'll notice the boot screen has gone from black to green reflecting the time change.

Pretty nice surprise.

[kevin01]

| sPECIAL nOTE: |
| |
| Hmzzz i think we have news to give do we? Ever wondered why the PS3 |
| is such a better machine than a xbox360? simply because they |
| implement too much stuff in one time! "SCEI" dont do that, you |
| need to learn a bit more from Microsoft on this part even when |
| they have forgotten a hypervision hack on kernel 4532 and 4548 |
| they fixed it very fast! And what do we see on the PS3? Up until |
| firmware 1.51 we still see holes! Why? You guys dont have the |

| right persons to work with or is it just the pressure from |
| the big boss? So for now dont update higher than |
| 1.51 since 1.54 hasnt yet been tested, and 1.51 had a few tiny |
| things fixed, but it didnt stop us much :-D Ohhh btw ever |
| wondered if those updates are required on a disc? Actually all |
| games up to now work without any update At least work fine on |
| 1.32 :-) Thats all for now! So seeya tiff tiff and bye bye |


So in summary, PS3 Devs should focus on finding that TIFF Exploit so that unsigned code can be ran, a PS3 iSO Loader, and just about anything else on v1.32 and lower... also, those who wish to play online can now update to v1.51 (since it still contains exploitable holes, obviously lower Firmware has even more though) without worry... very useful news indeed!

That is from the NFO file that was in the new Motorstorm ISO released by paradox. Its saying that if you are still at 1.32 or 1.51 the ISO loader will work for you, and there is an ISO loader for sure. They have exploited some holes in the firmware, and it should release in the coming weeks or months.

[joshmxpx]

Well, back to something that I am interested in.:D MOTORSTORM KICKS ASS!!!!!:eek: The graphics are totally next-gen and the gameplay is really sweet and the races are never the same twice. The crashes are absolutely spectacular, and dare I say better than Burnout. This is the kind of racing game I really like. I'm not into sim racing where you can adjust and add and tweak every part of your car so this game is perfect for me. I'm just getting started on it but I definately like what I see. Ok, back to @home and whatever else y'all have been discussing.;)

Does the single player get as hard and repetive as many review sites have been saying? The game definately looks fun, but with only a limited number of tracks and increasingly difficult AI, seems like it would be more fun online.

[GunnerX]

That may be true but @Home is still free. That's the big draw. Or at least it's "free" although of course to get the most out of it and decorate your pad, you'll have to earn it either thru sony-style achievements or by purchasing items. Though Sony is behind in terms of getting their users online, I think it may be a decent revenue source for them down the pipe.


It's free for people to use but it definitely does not mean SONY is giving up money. If you read the FAQ, the main point of HOME is advertising. I'm sure the entire place will be filled with ads and the "free" stuff you will get will most likely be sponsored by some other company. And yes, as you mentioned, everything you want to use to decorate your pad will most likely cost you in the end through micro transactions.

[sfu_lifer]

It's free for people to use but it definitely does not mean SONY is giving up money. If you read the FAQ, the main point of HOME is advertising. I'm sure the entire place will be filled with ads and the "free" stuff you will get will most likely be sponsored by some other company. And yes, as you mentioned, everything you want to use to decorate your pad will most likely cost you in the end through micro transactions.

It's not like Live doesn't promote either. I've seen quite a few advertising banners there for movies/shows/trailers when you log in.

[rdtx2002]

- Here are the Japanese console hardware sales for the week of Feb 26 - Mar 4, 2007:

Nintendo DS - 111,926 [1,489,334] units
PSP - 66,156 [503,984] units
Wii - 57,972 [803,574] units
PlayStation 3 - 44,000 [262,725] units
PlayStation 2 - 15,364 [196,047] units
Xbox 360 - 3,379 [65,389] units
GBASP/GBM/GBA - 1,568 [24,144] units
GameCube - 303 [4,432] units

- Square Enix programming supervisor Taku Murata revealed that Final Fantasy XIII will not use Unreal Engine 3, the game will run on the White Engine as previously announced. The company is experimenting White Engine with Final Fantasy XII and use the experience on FFXIII.

- Phil Harrison revealed some tidbits on PlayStation Home at GDC:

PlayStation Home was original developed for PS2, and the project was moved over to PlayStation 3 because PS2 lacks of key components like HDD and Cell processor
It is not a replacement of XMB (Cross Media Bar). XMB is still the fastest way to view media on PS3
Download and using Home will be free, the company is researching in offering premium services with in Home, such as special content offered by 3rd parties.
In future users can create their own contents, social networks and other creative things on Home

[hightechfan]

It's not like Live doesn't promote either. I've seen quite a few advertising banners there for movies/shows/trailers when you log in.

There is a difference between showing ads for movies and so on.Then you have what sony will have is true ads such as nike/coke etc.

[Vertigo]

There is a difference between showing ads for movies and so on.Then you have what sony will have is true ads such as nike/coke etc.

Oh, I get it. So the movie/tv ads don't generate any revenue for Microsoft, right? I mean, they're not "true ads", after all.

:rolleyes:

[joshmxpx]

Its not like there's never been a non TV/movie ad on Xbox live. There has been Cadillac ads that I can think of as a specific example.

[thecharlie]

There is a difference between showing ads for movies and so on.Then you have what sony will have is true ads such as nike/coke etc.

You don't make any sense. Define "true" ads. From what I can tell, there is no difference between the ads you speak of. They both are used to spark user interest, which in turn, generates revenue for the respective company. What's the difference between advertising "Nike" and "South Park HD"? Do you think the latter is put there just to be informative to you? Of course not.

[GunnerX]

The difference between the "ads" they have on Xbox Live is that they are used to inform users what is available for download. While what will be on Home are actual ads that serve no purpose other than to promote a product. All you can do is stare at them.

Here's another interesting article about PS Home: http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=23435

Another element that will take time is the environment's persistence. "Currently Home is not a persistent world, so when you leave Home, all of your possessions go with you. For instance, it is not currently possible for other users to visit your apartment while you're not there," Sony said.

"We are working on the persistent aspect of Home, and expect to implement it in the long term."

Advertising will apparently be kept to "palatable" levels, but will be prevalent, while content auctions, downloadable content sales, premium events and other initiatives are on the way.

[rahzel]

indication that the ps3 is getting rumble back. also, GoW3 confirmed, unofficially.

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3157965

[sfu_lifer]

indication that the ps3 is getting rumble back. also, GoW3 confirmed, unofficially.

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3157965

SixAxis pro. I'm looking forward to it. I'm sooo glad I waited and I only have the one sixaxis so far. GoW3 is obviously coming out for the PS3. Hope their sales pick up in Japan. Gundam Musou supposedly sold 170K software units and 30K hardware sales on the first day. If they still get beat by the Wii in next week's charts (and with the Wii being so supply constrained), that's a very bleak sign.

[rahzel]

SixAxis pro. I'm looking forward to it. I'm sooo glad I waited and I only have the one sixaxis so far. GoW3 is obviously coming out for the PS3. Hope their sales pick up in Japan. Gundam Musou supposedly sold 170K software units and 30K hardware sales on the first day. If they still get beat by the Wii in next week's charts (and with the Wii being so supply constrained), that's a very bleak sign.
well, unfortunately, the Wii still outsold the PS3 for the week of Feb 26th - March 4th. rdtx2002 posted the numbers a few posts up. i don't think the PS3 will outsell the Wii until later on when games like FF, MGS or GT come out. Gundam is obviously big in Japan, but not FF big. also, it is still quite difficult to compete with the Wii considering it costs half the price.

[rdtx2002]

well, unfortunately, the Wii still outsold the PS3 for the week of Feb 26th - March 4th. rdtx2002 posted the numbers a few posts up. i don't think the PS3 will outsell the Wii until later on when games like FF, MGS or GT come out. Gundam is obviously big in Japan, but not FF big. also, it is still quite difficult to compete with the Wii considering it costs half the price.

yup.. the PS3 won't top the Wii sales until titles like FF and MGS come out or if there is a price cut. If Gundam Musou can bump the sales higher for a few weeks, that is fine for Sony I guess.

it's too bad Japanese gamers won't embrace the Xbox360.... MS should just pull the plug over there.

[CFRTim]

A report from German site Cynamite has given us our first glimpse of the new backwards compatibility software emulation within the European Playstation 3.
Sony announced over a week ago that the European version of the PS3 would not feature hardware-based backwards compatibility in the form of the PS2's Emotion Engine.

This is despite both the Japanese and American versions of the console featuring the chip. These therefore offer a significantly high degree of backwards compatibility.

Cynamite has managed to get its hands on a European PAL PS3 prior to the official launch date, and has begun performing backwards compatibility testing.

The list of games tested are claimed by Cynamite to be the top-twelve PS2 software titles, and are listed as followed:


God of War
MGS 2: Sons of Liberty
MGS 3: Snake Eater
Shadow of the Colossus
Guitar Hero 2
Prince of Persia: The Two Thrones
Okami
GTA: Liberty City Stories
Eragon
Final Fantasy X-2
Ratchet & Clank 3
Lumines Plus

Its reported that only ONE of these twelve games operates properly - Eragon. All other titles refused to run, and referred the user to future software updates and the Sony Website to read the downward compatibility list.

It's possible that this console hasn't received the latest firmware patch destined for European consoles on release (it was reported to be running 1.50), but if it is the case that the PS3 backwards compatibility will be performing as badly as this, then European gamers will be in uproar

source : http://theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=38191

[Kurtz7834]

No way, VF5 rocks. If you're a Tekken/Soul Calibur fan, you probably won't dig the slower more methodical gameplay but for people who like technical fighters, this fits the bill quite nicely. Looks pretty good too (not as good as Motorstorm but I think it gives DOA a run for its money).

Fair enough. But I don't see how a fighting game can be released in 2007 without online support. I'm aware of the excuses... that lag could affect the 'purity of the gameplay' or whatever BS. But to me, that's just laziness. All fighting games should now be made with online play, period. If DOA4 could do it, they can too.

[sfu_lifer]

A report from German site Cynamite has given us our first glimpse of the new backwards compatibility software emulation within the European Playstation 3.
Sony announced over a week ago that the European version of the PS3 would not feature hardware-based backwards compatibility in the form of the PS2's Emotion Engine.

This is despite both the Japanese and American versions of the console featuring the chip. These therefore offer a significantly high degree of backwards compatibility.

Cynamite has managed to get its hands on a European PAL PS3 prior to the official launch date, and has begun performing backwards compatibility testing.

The list of games tested are claimed by Cynamite to be the top-twelve PS2 software titles, and are listed as followed:


God of War
MGS 2: Sons of Liberty
MGS 3: Snake Eater
Shadow of the Colossus
Guitar Hero 2
Prince of Persia: The Two Thrones
Okami
GTA: Liberty City Stories
Eragon
Final Fantasy X-2
Ratchet & Clank 3
Lumines Plus

Its reported that only ONE of these twelve games operates properly - Eragon. All other titles refused to run, and referred the user to future software updates and the Sony Website to read the downward compatibility list.

It's possible that this console hasn't received the latest firmware patch destined for European consoles on release (it was reported to be running 1.50), but if it is the case that the PS3 backwards compatibility will be performing as badly as this, then European gamers will be in uproar

source : http://theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=38191
Wow those are some top titles in there (other than Eragon). There's still almost a week till the 23rd so hopefully that can be improved. What I want to know is if Eragon was able to upscale :cheesygri