*Italians Only* Do you consider yourself "White"?

[bidwell]

I think this question is pritty self explanitory and one that has yet to be debated. Im italian, and I don't think Italians should fall under the "white" category. What do you guys think?

[Zathras]

Which category would you prefer then?

[deep]

All I can think of is "Me Myself & Irene" when he explains away his sons' obvious blackness with "Oh yeah their grandmother ia 1/16th Italian".

I think Italians sgould list themselves not as "white" from now on, but as "ecru". Good enough?

[v00d00]

Is "White" the same as caucasian in your mind?

What about actual WHITE people who just tan a lot.. are they still "white"??

[Montague]

Do we really need these type of threads?

What next an Aryan race thread? ;)

[Ojam]

These threads are so stupid and silly. Listen, all you purple people eaters, do you consider yourself human, or what? I think the next person to start a stupid thread like this needs a swift kick in the arse! We are all humans, does it really matter what the colour of our skin is?

[SergesPlace]

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Holy crappy threads batman!! oh and pritty is spelled pretty and explanitory is spelled explanatory just in case you use these words when you come out with another stupid thread :)

[remmuh]

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for sure.

[Montecore]

I consider Italians as southern european .

[skuntbehavior]

post a pic of yourself and i will tell you which colour category you fall under.

[SergesPlace]

for sure.
and for the record,i'm a first generation Italian :rolleyes:
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[MizTEcK]

I think this question is pritty self explanitory and one that has yet to be debated. Im italian, and I don't think Italians should fall under the "white" category. What do you guys think?
hey look at me i'm a newbie who just wants to post crap to get my post count up.

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[SergesPlace]

hey look at me i'm a newbie who just wants to post crap to get my post count up.

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[WiZZLa]

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agreed.

[Jazzhound]

This isn't really taxanomic. Asians, or "Yellow" people for example can be Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, and even Russians and Ukrainians since they have Mongolian roots. It's obfuscating when it comes to assigning class and category in this way. We're all descendents from Ghengis Khan, so try to make sense of that one.

[gh05t]

All caucasians of European origins are considered white despite the varying skin tone as one moves further south towards the sunny areas.

Why even bother to ponder if you are white or not though?

If you are seen as white in a white privileged society all the better for you.

Just enjoy the privileges, reap the benefits and use your skin color to get you as much mileage and as far as you can in life.

End of Story.

[remmuh]

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for sure!

[me!]

an italian friend of mine is darker than most asian friends of mine. in fact the italian friend is as dark as some fairer skinned indo canadians, or as dark as some persians

[CSR]

I don't care if italians are white or not, but italian women and italian ass, now that's tappable..

[Wildfire]

an italian friend of mine is darker than most asian friends of mine. in fact the italian friend is as dark as some fairer skinned indo canadians, or as dark as some persians
I'm Italian and I'm white, it really depends, if they are first generation and been living back home, they get exposed to the sun alot more on the beach and get tans like that.

[Montecore]

All caucasians of European origins are considered white despite the varying skin tone as one moves further south towards the sunny areas.

Why even bother to ponder if you are white or not though?

If you are seen as white in a white privileged society all the better for you.

Just enjoy the privileges, reap the benefits and use your skin color to get you as much mileage and as far as you can in life.

End of Story.
you sound bitter , are you not one of the " privileged" ?

[gh05t]

you sound bitter , are you not one of the " privileged" ?

Nothing to be bitter about Montecore. Just unusal for someone from a background traditionally seen as white posing the question, as skin color is often a topic spoken about by minorities and it's always something negative to it.

If an Italian has to question whether he is white then maybe something similarly experienced by minorities must have brought this on?

Maybe some kind of discrimination where he was not seen as or noticeably white.

Just finished a paper on healthcare workers in Canada that touched on Canada being a white privileged society.

Guess it was inappropriate to use the analogy of white privilege in this thread without first getting to why someone from a background traditionally seen as white would question whether they fit the profile.

[sureLoss]

sigh can we stop the racial/ethnic segregation of threads?

somebody please think of the children

[SergesPlace]

the media and hollywood glamourizes the privelage of being "white" ... hell I wish I was white caucasian .
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[hyperion]

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[→ElectroLux←]

I think this question is pritty self explanitory and one that has yet to be debated. Im italian, and I don't think Italians should fall under the "white" category. What do you guys think?

What kind of silly question is this? Do ugandans consider themselves black? Italians are white (caucasian) in every sense of the word, either be location, race or country. Even arabs are caucasian, so they are "white" technically.

[webdoctors]

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plzzz stop these threads, they lost their charm..

[SergesPlace]

What kind of silly question is this? Do ugandans consider themselves black? Italians are white (caucasian) in every sense of the word, either be location, race or country. Even arabs are caucasian, so they are "white" technically.
Dang!!! that ranks right up there for the worst avatar i've ever seen :lol: :lol: You bring up a very interesting point which i'd like to respond to but DANG :eek: the cock of yours is freaking me out :lol:

[doc_ock]

What kind of silly question is this? Do ugandans consider themselves black? Italians are white (caucasian) in every sense of the word, either be location, race or country. Even arabs are caucasian, so they are "white" technically.
The term "caucasian" is broad and subjective.
The term Caucasian race is used almost exclusively in North America to mean "white", especially in government and census forms (see Caucasian type). In the United States, it is currently used primarily as a distinction based solely on skin color; however, anthropologically speaking, it was once considered a useful taxonomical categorization of human racial groups based on a presumed common geographic, linguistic, and/or genetic origin.
Historically the term has been used to refer to people of European, Semitic, Finno-Ugrian, and North African descent, as well as various peoples of the Indian Subcontinent.
Here's the link. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race)

Not everyone equates "caucasian" with "white". Using the term caucasian to mean white in the United States, has even caused confusion in their supreme court.
The question of a difference between the "Caucasian race" and "white" as a racial category in the United States has led to at least one set of major legal contradictions in the United States Supreme Court. In the case of Ozawa v. United States (1922), the court ruled that a law which extended U.S. citizenship only to "whites" did not apply to fair-skinned people from Japan, because:

The term "white person," as used in [the law], and in all the earlier naturalization laws, beginning in 1790, applies to such persons as were known in this country as "white," in the racial sense, when it was first adopted, and is confined to persons of the Caucasian Race... A Japanese, born in Japan, being clearly not a Caucasian, cannot be made a citizen of the United States.

However a year later, the same court was faced with the trial of United States v. Bhagat Singh Thind (1923), where they ruled that someone from the Indian subcontinent could not become a naturalized United States citizen, because they were not "white". The Court conceded that anthropologists had classified Indians as "Caucasians", and thus the same race as "whites" as defined in Ozawa, but concluded that "the average man knows perfectly well that there are unmistakable and profound differences", and denied citizenship.
The same link as above. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race)

This isn't really taxanomic. Asians, or "Yellow" people for example can be Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, and even Russians and Ukrainians since they have Mongolian roots. It's obfuscating when it comes to assigning class and category in this way. We're all descendents from Ghengis Khan, so try to make sense of that one.
Good point.

[MizTEcK]

Just Stop These Kind Of Threads! They Are Even More Annoying Than Me Typing In Caps K? Jebus Go Find Something More Interesting To F*king Share With Others Instead Of Rip Off Something That Was Originally MILDLY Entertaining And Abuse It Till Its Dull And Annoying.

[aquariaguy]

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[nfnx]

im asian, but this topic is really funny.

[Siefer999]

Am i the only one who has european friends (greek and italian) that consider themselves not "white" but "olive?" Apparently that is what they (and many other people) consider their "colour classification."

euro=olive??

Weird

[Thimble]

"olive"???

um... i guess there are some historic roots as there was a strong olive trade economy back in the hellenistic age... i'm not sure about describing it as a skin tone since skin colour has little to do with geography these days...

i think its fairer to describe greeks as "mediterranean". this would include southern italy, spain, france, northern egypt, morocco, etc... there are a lot of food & wine, cultural and social commonalities to warrant a group classification...

[SergesPlace]

Am i the only one who has european friends (greek and italian) that consider themselves not "white" but "olive?" Apparently that is what they (and many other people) consider their "colour classification."

euro=olive??

Weird
mmmmmmmmm, greek olives