What do I get my 17 year old daughter?

[daisyville]

My eldest is turning 17 next Friday. Whoa, does that make me feel old.

Anyway, lets stay on topic shall we?

She doesn't need anything material really. She has a cool room with all the trappings, lots of clothes. She has concert tickets for most of the upcoming shows she wants to see.

I would like to get her something that's more of an 'adventure' for her birthday, although affordable. Last year I took her and a girlfriend to Toronto for an overnight adventure. We saw a ballet, went to dinner, shopped, etc. It was fun.

She'd like to go to New York City. That just ain't gonna happen. I'd love to go too, but it's not in the budget I'm afraid. Ofcourse, if we go somewhere, she'd like to have a friend to explore with, besides her Ma.

Any tips?
I was wondering about Montreal. Exploring there for a weekend, we could drive (save money that way) do two nights in a hotel and see the sights?

We've done Ottawa as a family, so I'd prefer not to do that one for her 'birthday' adventure. Ideas?

[Feneant]

Parachuting lessons. Nothing says happy birthday like sending your kids jumping from planes.

[spm24]

17 year old daughter.
sending her and a friend to montreal might be fun but as a side trip why not go to niagra cross the boarder and go shopping in the states with her for the day . find good deals on a show or something and then bring her there .

other ideas is u can ask her friends what she plans on doing and support the whole thing ( ie dinner, movies with friends shopping ahead of time all prepaid care of a loving ma ")

that way she will be with her friends and also know u contributed to make her bday special ;

[manho]

i was gonna say a car and insurance... but u said even nyc is outta budget.. so...

(p.s. tats wht i got for my 17th.. a 8 yr old accord sedan ) :cheesygri

[spm24]

Parachuting lessons. Nothing says happy birthday like sending your kids jumping from planes.
sorry bout the 2 posts in a row but parachuting is 18+ last time i checked.

but since i have recently gone skydiving
here is the link parachute school of toronto. (http://www.parachuteschool.com/jumpprices.html)

[coolpc]

sorry bout the 2 posts in a row but parachuting is 18+ last time i checked.

but since i have recently gone skydiving
here is the link parachute school of toronto. (http://www.parachuteschool.com/jumpprices.html)

lets have a RFD group jumping event!!!

[robattoronto]

I think driving to Montreal is a great idea. Rent a nice car, priceline a 4-5 star hotel and see if there's any show happening. Or you can get a bundle pass for the Olympic stadium/insectarium/Bio-dome. Seafood dinner. Casino nite. That should be a birthday present to remember. Nothing like a mother-daughter bonding during a roadtrip. You can make a pitstop at Kingston/Napanee/ Big apple (not NY)

[devious9191]

lets have a RFD group jumping event!!!

How about you jump first? ;p jk

[devious9191]

Montreal's a beautiful city, though it can make for a long day of trying to find your way around if you haven't been there before. My first time there when I was 18, I spent over an hour driving over bridges.

What about old quebec city? It's also very nice, though I don't know if a 17y/o would be into it. Something else you may want to consider would be a 'dinner/cruise' thing that they do all over the place. I've heard good things about one that's run out of Kingston, though the name escapes me.

[NDman]

Seems like you are looking for something to do together (bonding trip kinda thing, like robattoronto mentioned) instead of something materistic. A short get-away would be perfect.

Another one that I think would be fun to do is some of those short cooking work-shops. It'd be great for bonding, and yummy food to follow (previous exchanges suggested that you are pretty good at cooking so it can't be that bad. :D). But that depends on how much you and your daughter like about cooking.

[confused]

Scores at NYC

[wanted]

A trip to a place like Vancouver/Toronto/Calgary/Montreal sounds nice...
When you mentioned NYC, these places could be an alternative.


Otherwise, get her membership to RFD :lol:

[tkl]

1. Membership at the exclusive "RFD" club. :D

2. Body guard to beat up all suitors. She's not allowed to date until she's 25.

[PrinceMS]

I have heared of rumors that up north of Brampton there is some plane museum and you can fly one of those old dog fight planes for a quite cheap price. Two can sit in one (maybe 1 seat is only for pro pilot?). Regardless - sorry can't be much more help, but you might wanna check into that.

If price is your concern - consider sega city / wonder land etc.

[confused]

go skydiving together.. that'll make you feel young and satisfy your daughter























pics of daughter? :lol:

[akito925]

just give her a blank check, and tell her she can write any amount she wants. lol.

[steve.m]

ask her friends. they would know.

[CSK'sMom]

I think the weekend getaway is a great idea. If your daughter is a "girly-girl" a spa weekend might be a great idea. There are plenty of great hotels in Niagara that now have spas and offer spa weekends...

[champ91]

how about a nice camping trip? or is that too old school? perhaps you can send her off by herself with her frds; i mean 17 is the age that teens tend to depart from their parents anyways.

[CSR]

You can bring her to meet me.. =)

j/k.. how about watchign the Blue Jays play tonight, opening day

[Bzji]

Since she likes to go to concerts, I assume she'll like music. So why not an Ipod mini? Nothing says "I'm still a cool up-to-date dad" like an iPod. :D

[diewlasing]

pics of daughter? :lol:
Better yet pics of Daisyville too. I'm getting the gut feeling that she's a hot milf :cheesygri

[NDman]

Better yet pics of Daisyville too. I'm getting the gut feeling that she's a hot **** :cheesygri
Show some respect

[ainsane]

Better yet pics of Daisyville too. I'm getting the gut feeling that she's a hot milf :cheesygri

This is why more females don't join these forums. She asked a regular question and some some perv has to make stupid comments.

[guest10586]

This is why more females don't join these forums. She asked a regular question and some some perv has to make stupid comments.

Probably...

[TechGuyMTL]

Dasyville, you've got my vote for Montreal!

I think you and your daughter will have a blast here. We have some great hotels you can stay at downtown. The city life is great, just ask any Torontonian. ;)

If you come here, a visit to the Old Port is a must.

The Casino is fun too, but after a while I get tired of the ringing of the slot machines and the smoke. If you go there, you'll want to play the slots, but bring no more than $10 each -- entertainment cash. Who knows, you might get lucky, but don't count on it. The casino might have some shows or other events happening that might be worth checking out.

You'll also want to check out Montreal's very intricate underground shopping network. Totally awesome. Tons of fancy stores, shops, boutiques and restaurants, all connected to each other at subway level. About 13 kilometers of tunnels. You girls will be in shopping paradise!

For additional shopping enjoyment, be sure to take a nice long stroll along St. Catherine street, downtown. Great ambiance on that street.

You'll also enjoy taking a tour of the McGill University campus. It's located in the heart of downtown, and I had a blast studying there. Some of the older McGill edifices like the Arts Building have a beautiful architecture, which is strikingly similar to the general architecture that you'll see at the Old Port.

Hungry? No problem. Lots of restaurants and eateries to choose from. Schwartz's and Ben's -- Montreal's favourite smoked meat joints. If any of you are vegetarian, a good place is "Le Commensal". Also, don't forget to sink your teeth in our Montreal bagels. They're among the best in the world. Personally, I eat the kosher bagels, which are incredible. My personal favourite is the black seed (poppyseed) kosher bagel.

There's lots more to do here. By visiting Montreal you'll have the feeling that you're in a european city. Lots of cool sites, friendly (bilingual) people, and a happening night life that you don't want to miss!

Highly recommended. :)

[chellemi]

This is why more females don't join these forums. She asked a regular question and some some perv has to make stupid comments.

true.

[gnunn]

I'll second the suggestion for Quebec City, it's a much prettier city then Montreal. Another good city that is close by and often gets overlooked is Ottawa. Great downtown shopping area and loads of cheap national museums to visit. Finally, Kingston is another favorite of mine for overnight trips, it also has a very nice downtown area with lot's of unique shops though it's considerably smaller then Ottawa or Quebec City.

If you do go to Kingston, I highly recommend the Grizzly Grill on Princess Street for dinner, my wife and I always make a point of stopping there for dinner when in town.

[NDman]

Another good city that is close by and often gets overlooked is Ottawa.

If the gift can be "held out" for a little bit, then wait a few weeks until the Tulip Festival starts. That'd be a great choice too if you don't mind another Ottawa trip

[asim99]

i like montreal, but i love quebec city...quebec city definitely gets my vote

[daisyville]

Better yet pics of Daisyville too. I'm getting the gut feeling that she's a hot milf :cheesygri

What's 'hot' is subjective.

But you can forget the milf part - because you're being rude, and it wouldn't take any smarts at all to find a picture of me. Both features unbecoming.

[manixc]

instead of travelling, what about first year tuition at an university of her choice?

[TechGuyMTL]

Quebec City is nice, but I can tell you that it's not the most fun place for a 17-year-old. The venues are pretty, but that's about it. Daisyville, your daughter might get really bored there.

Montreal's Old Port area is very similar to the general "look and feel" of Quebec City. And the advantage of being in Montreal is that there's tons more to do.

You can forget about shopping or the night life in Quebec City -- really not much of either. Also, please keep in mind that in Quebec city many of the people only speak FRENCH!

Again, Quebec City is a nice place, but in my opinion it's quite limited.

[daisyville]

Some great feedback so far - thanks everyone (well mostly everyone!).

The ipod idea is something I didn't entertain. Something to ponder. She is totally addicted to her Sony CDwalkman (whatever they call those!)

I'm leaning toward Montreal though. I've been on business a few times, and loved it. Because she's her mother's daughter, she'd be totally into the Gallery scene and some of the cultural events (occupational hazzard for me).

Maybe we can go during the Comedy Festival or something?

NDman, you're right on the defferal thing - I'm totally not expecting to execute the trip next week, but give her a promisary note outlining what we'll do, where we'll stay, etc. (I should have mentioned that in my first post!)

Last time I was in Montreal, they buried "The Rocket". Quite a time to be in the city. Hmmmm, also makes me think it's been too long.

TechGuyMTL I appreciate your "on site" suggestions and feedback. To be honest, I think her and a bud and myself would have a really nice time. We could find a way to make it as inexpensive as possible, and the gals are old enough they seem to have their own 'mad money'.

I think I'll go searching and see when different arts festivals are on. Thanks gang...I'm leaning toward Montreal big time. Geesh, I think I'm starting to look forward to it!!

Truthfully, I need Montreal to redeem itself. I was abducted, temporarily, by a cab driver last time I was in town. Petrified me. First time in my life I felt out of control of a situation until I had to just pause and get my wits about me. I couldn't get out of the city fast enough. It's time to go back and remember what makes it so great.

Thanks everybody - keep the suggestions coming though if you have thoughts!

Tracy

[rai_dei]

I'll second the suggestion for Quebec City, it's a much prettier city then Montreal. Another good city that is close by and often gets overlooked is Ottawa. Great downtown shopping area and loads of cheap national museums to visit. Finally, Kingston is another favorite of mine for overnight trips, it also has a very nice downtown area with lot's of unique shops though it's considerably smaller then Ottawa or Quebec City.

If you do go to Kingston, I highly recommend the Grizzly Grill on Princess Street for dinner, my wife and I always make a point of stopping there for dinner when in town.
I third Quebec City, check out the Montmorency waterfall and the old city.
Kingston is fun too, but not all that much to see...

[robattoronto]

Maybe we can go during the Comedy Festival or something?

Tracy

Exactly what I was thinking. I go there every year for that fest. Always a blast.

Here's the site. http://www.hahaha.com

[lmno]

Maybe plan to go whitewater rafting down the Ottawa River?

[guest10586]

instead of travelling, what about first year tuition at an university of her choice?

Ugh...you know how to wreck a perfectly good bday.

I'd probably go with the traveling idea and get her a digital camera (cause you should have your own eventually and she is nearly 18).

[NDman]

Truthfully, I need Montreal to redeem itself. I was abducted, temporarily, by a cab driver last time I was in town. Petrified me.

Say WHAT!? Wow. Montreal is a great place. TechGuyMT nailed it. Yes, I'm kind of Torontonian. :cheesygri

[VivaLaRaza]

if u dont mind me asking..what happend to u in montreal?

[gon9925]

How about....birth control? j/k

Seriously though,

a) cell phone if she doesn't have one alreadly
b) Jazz festival coming to Montreal I hear if she's into that (think in may,could be june i'm not sure)
c) Indy race as well in montreal i think around the same time (i've never been one for car races but some ppl do like them)
d) Or save any trip to Quebec till she turns 18 :cheesygri
e) Drive out to the country for horseback riding lessons for the day?
f) Night out and perhaps see a theater production
g) iBook laptop? Girls seem to love those

Well there's a quick list, hope that helps

[daisyville]

if u dont mind me asking..what happend to u in montreal?

Well to make a long story short....I went out for a walk on a beautiful summer afternoon. I like to walk.

I tried to go in a reasonably straight line from my hotel, and walked and walked and walked. Eventually I thought I should turn around and head back to the hotel. Did that...walked and realized I had gotten turned around somehow (I'm famous for it, no orientation skills what so ever!).

Knowing this about myself, I had money tucked in my pocket. Hailed a cab. Told cabbie to take me to whatever hotel I was at. He chatted me up. Thought I looked like a 'nice girl' or whatever. Another cabbie pulls up alongside him and gives him the thumbs up. I'm wondering what that's about.

Cabbie I'm with decides to 'show me around'. We pass my hotel. I say "hey, there's my hotel, you can let me off here please", he does not stop the car. Keeps going. Drives around, tells me he's going to give me a 'special tour' of the city.

I quietly panic. Ponder jumping out. Start thinking.

Tell him I have an appointment with a group of people and if I don't show up they'll worry about where I am, but if he gives me his card, I'll be sure to call him when I need to go to the airport. He agrees that sounds like 'fun'.

He lets me off near enough to the hotel I know where I am. Doesn't charge me.

I trashed his card.

Should have called the police - but I was just glad to be outta there.

That's it. Scary really. Think of the number of people who get in a cab and trust that's a safe thing to do. I think of it every time I get in a cab alone now.

[MrDisco]

it's a few months away but i would highly suggest seeing Corteo, the newest performance by Cirque de Soleil in Quebec. June 30 - July 17 (toronto show is in August-September)

[TechGuyMTL]

Summer is a very hot time to be in montreal. If you plan the timing of your trip right, you can get a taste of the La Ronde amusement park (http://www.laronde.com), the Just For Laughs Festival (http://www.hahaha.com) and the Montreal International Jazz Festival (http://www.montrealjazzfest.com).

I highly recommend all 3 attractions, if you can work it out in your schedule.

Here are the dates of the festivals and La Ronde:

Jazz Fest: June 30 - July 10, 2005
Just For Laughs: July 6 - July 31, 2005
La Ronde: amusement park opens mid May 'til end of October

For more ideas of fun things to do in Montreal, check out these sites:

http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide-2803733-montreal_things_to_do-i
http://www.wcities.com/en/city/88/city.html

Let me know if you have any questions.

[guest10586]

Well to make a long story short....I went out for a walk on a beautiful summer afternoon. I like to walk.

I tried to go in a reasonably straight line from my hotel, and walked and walked and walked. Eventually I thought I should turn around and head back to the hotel. Did that...walked and realized I had gotten turned around somehow (I'm famous for it, no orientation skills what so ever!).

Knowing this about myself, I had money tucked in my pocket. Hailed a cab. Told cabbie to take me to whatever hotel I was at. He chatted me up. Thought I looked like a 'nice girl' or whatever. Another cabbie pulls up alongside him and gives him the thumbs up. I'm wondering what that's about.

Cabbie I'm with decides to 'show me around'. We pass my hotel. I say "hey, there's my hotel, you can let me off here please", he does not stop the car. Keeps going. Drives around, tells me he's going to give me a 'special tour' of the city.

I quietly panic. Ponder jumping out. Start thinking.

Tell him I have an appointment with a group of people and if I don't show up they'll worry about where I am, but if he gives me his card, I'll be sure to call him when I need to go to the airport. He agrees that sounds like 'fun'.

He lets me off near enough to the hotel I know where I am. Doesn't charge me.

I trashed his card.

Should have called the police - but I was just glad to be outta there.

That's it. Scary really. Think of the number of people who get in a cab and trust that's a safe thing to do. I think of it every time I get in a cab alone now.

Weird...

[asim99]

now that i see u r going to montreal...where would u stay?
i personally like doing the bed and breakfast thing...and montreal has plenty to offer

[spm24]

alot of places are good to look at in montreal i would suggest u go a long weekend or during a festival .

comedy festivals are usally good. casinos would be out of the question due to the age issue..( unless your a supercool mom who is the one who gives there kids the fake ids and lets them gamble +other)

old montreal has alot of events . downtown montreal is cool . mountroyal is something that is good in summer you can hike look at the skyline picnic paddleboat so many things to do .

montreal is tourist friendly and a good transit system since you said you dont like to cab it .

[thelefteyeguy]

a digital camera is also an idea....

[9mmCensor]

contraceptives. and the DVD of the film Kids.

[akwok]

I highly suggest an iPod; you say she uses her walkman all the time! It's outdated! And what teenager wouldn't want an iPod?! :D

[ainsane]

Yeah Montreal is pretty nice in the summer. You can probably catch a decent rate on the VIA train or drive down. And even stay in McGill residence to save some cash.


contraceptives. and the DVD of the film Kids.

you're an idiot.

[TechGuyMTL]

The maturity level here never ceases to amaze me. Keep up the good work...

[GateGuardian]

IPOD is a good idea, but what if she doesn't use mp3s??????

[daisyville]

Montreal is it. I'll take her and a bud there this summer.

The Ipod IS a great idea, but I think she would treasure the experience more than the 'thing'. She has her own money (more than me some days!) and if she truly wanted one of these gadgets, I think she'd buy it.

She told me the other day "I'm not really that materialistic" and I chuckled and said "it's because you need for nothing really!" She has a TV in her room, with a VCR/DVD, a good little stereo system, a little bench seat to curl up and read on, lots of cool storage lockers (thank you IKEA), an electric guitar, amp...a t-shirt collection that is starting to rival retail. I guess teens collect t's these days.

She complains that she never goes anywhere or has never been anywhere. While that's not exactly true, I know she'd like to travel. She likes experiences and talking about places she's been or seen. Enjoyes diversity, and different cultural experiences. I think Montreal is truly the right spot for right now. Maybe another year we can do NY.

Many thanks to TechGuy for his outstanding salesmanship of a great Canadian city and helpful, useful tips. Now, if I could only find an itinerary for this year's comedy fest ;)

Cheers,
Tracy

[9mmCensor]

you're an idiot.
Have you ever seen the film?

If not go watch it, then you will know why I said that.

[asim99]

Have you ever seen the film?

If not go watch it, then you will know why I said that.

actually the film is a real eye opener, and i'd recommend it to parents (they can decide if they want their children to watch it)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113540/

[NLI10D]

i think the skydiving thing would be great but yea it would be costly (tandem jumping with instructor) but at the same time its one of those things that will really stick in your mind and your daughter (crazy mother with equally crazy daughter caught on film) it'll be great to show other family members. of course this if you're heart can take jumping off hehehe. but the ipod is 2nd choice.

[spm24]

i think the skydiving thing would be great but yea it would be costly (tandem jumping with instructor) but at the same time its one of those things that will really stick in your mind and your daughter (crazy mother with equally crazy daughter caught on film) it'll be great to show other family members. of course this if you're heart can take jumping off hehehe. but the ipod is 2nd choice.


i'm pretty sure you have to be 18 or older to go skydiving . i went a couple times last year its a great experience and i would love to go up as many times as i can .l

first time rate is 260 $ (jumping without instructor )
but every jump after that is 60$ so its more then worth it if you ask me

but i am almost 100 % the age limit is 18 .

[blackhawk]

How about a balloon flight?

[eelfliw]

How do you get a 17 year old teenager not asking you for her own car (or borrow yours) so she can drive to Mtl with her friends is beyond me.

When my friend turned 18, we drove to a bar in Mtl so he can drink legally (we parked the car @ the hotel and walked to the bar, of course).

[ainsane]

Have you ever seen the film?

If not go watch it, then you will know why I said that.

Yeah I have seen the movie. Its... interesting. But contraceptives? Gimme a break.

[peterbrowne]

How do you get a 17 year old teenager not asking you for her own car (or borrow yours) so she can drive to Mtl with her friends is beyond me.

When my friend turned 18, we drove to a bar in Mtl so he can drink legally (we parked the car @ the hotel and walked to the bar, of course).you friend bought a car and drove to another city so he can drink beer "legally". you're friend has problems.
and they went OOP (Out of Province)

[7jai]

Definetely a road trip would be nice, and maybe you can hit some of Canada's outlet malls around those areas, i heard they are splendid.

I had a friend who drove his gf up to halifax for her bday, they spent a week or so there. Saw the pics, i was dazzled by the scenery. There was also this big bridge @ new brunswick and halifax, can't remember what it's called though. Federation bridge? or something like that?

[simms]

and they went OOP (Out of Province)

Nothing wrong with that. When you're 18 kids will now be in first year university, and the only way to get aside from strict RA's/dons will be to jump the 'border' into PQ and drink in Hull.


Which is probably most 1st years want to go to Ottawa, Carlton, Mcgill, etc. Right near (or in) PQ.

[UrbanPoet]

get her a stripper. He'll come over dressed up as a cop and say "Hey... I heard there was a disurbance here.

Of sExy LADIES! whoop" *rips pants off*

Oh wait.... its your daughter. D=

[eelfliw]

you friend bought a car and drove to another city so he can drink beer "legally". you're friend has problems.
Hmmm..... I think the bigger problem is English comprehension. He didn't buy a car to drive to another city.

Ohhh... you'll understand when you reach 18.

[Blazin_Sunfire]

me? lol jks. maybe an ipod which was suggested before is a good idea, or even some clothes... i dunno.

[bmwguy]

I think Montreal would be a great idea. If you are looking to save a little on hotel and still want something nice, check out: http://www.annemasoeuranne.com/

I stayed there last summer and loved the place. Prices are very low (always important), people are friendly (gave us lots of coupons for nightclubs in the city to go to), small and quiet. I will go back next time I go to Montreal.

Also, for a 17 year old girl there is lots of shopping there (if that is what she likes). The old city is nice. Also there are lots of great restaurants. I usually go to L'Academie. It is very cheap, they allow you to bring your own wine, and the food is great. It is always really busy though so you will wait in line, but it is worth it! It is about 10 doors down from that hotel I reccommended.

I can't wait till my next trip to Montreal. I love that city!

[nuropa]

cash always works. :)

[TechGuyMTL]

Many thanks to TechGuy for his outstanding salesmanship of a great Canadian city and helpful, useful tips.
The pleasure is all mine. No doubt you're all going to have a blast in Montreal!

[kingsley]

I want to go to Montreal and practice my français. :D

[MTL-TechY]

Summer is a very hot time to be in montreal. If you plan the timing of your trip right, you can get a taste of the La Ronde amusement park (http://www.laronde.com), the Just For Laughs Festival (http://www.hahaha.com) and the Montreal International Jazz Festival (http://www.montrealjazzfest.com).

I highly recommend all 3 attractions, if you can work it out in your schedule.

Here are the dates of the festivals and La Ronde:

Jazz Fest: June 30 - July 10, 2005
Just For Laughs: July 6 - July 31, 2005
La Ronde: amusement park opens mid May 'til end of October

For more ideas of fun things to do in Montreal, check out these sites:

http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide-2803733-montreal_things_to_do-i
http://www.wcities.com/en/city/88/city.html

Let me know if you have any questions.


The Old Port, Downtown have many attractions and the Grand PRIX weekend is always a blast

[bluetroll]

a box of condoms.... u gotta teach her about safe sex.

[StarStrike]

a box of condoms.... u gotta teach her about safe sex.

that's really inappropriate bluetroll.

[kingsley]

that's really inappropriate bluetroll.

:lol: :lol:

[Nhiem]

A few weeks/months ago there was a post about a guy who would let you do ANYTHING to him for a certain cost. He'd even let you kick him in the balls...but you have to be a girl. I think that's just about perfect for a 17-year old girl ;). If you can't find that post, try asking one of her ex-boyfriends if any lol. Tie him up and blindfold him...she'd probably be extremely happy and it won't cost you anything other than ducktape and fabric.

[gh05t]

http://www.cirquedusoleil.com/CirqueDuSoleil/en/tickets/touring/cirque2005/montreal.htm

I was going to suggest the Hotel and Tour from VIPpro but it all seems sold out. Not sure if tickets available still for Corteo.

http://vipprotours.com/home.asp

Kids love clowns and the circus and adults like cultural and exotic stuff.

A great mix of both as your daughter transcends the boundary from childhood to adulthood plus it's expensive but not something material.

As a guy though I would just settle for an iPod.:)

[daisyville]

a box of condoms.... u gotta teach her about safe sex.

I teach my daughter about safe sex as a parent. That's not a birthday gift, it's a responsibility.

[daisyville]

[url]Kids love clowns and the circus and adults like cultural and exotic stuff.


Actually, both she and I think clowns are in the top 5 list of scary things. I just loathe them. They may be on my top 3 list of petrifying things! ;)

[gh05t]

Actually, both she and I think clowns are in the top 5 list of scary things. I just loathe them. They may be on my top 3 list of petrifying things! ;)

Yep I understand.Stephen King's Book and movie IT says it all. And we have all had our share of clown dreams too,mostly on the scary side. :lol:

iPod If she doesn't already have one.

[mrmoe]

IT in dvd is an option.



"For me, clowns aren't funny. In fact, they're kind of scary. I've wondered where this started, and I think it goes back to the time I went to the circus and a clown killed my dad."
— Jack Handy

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