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to_vento
Mar 11th, 2005, 08:00 AM
Hey everyone. First time posting a deal...love the site.

Anyhow, I was taking a look through flyers last night, and noticed something a little funny in the Best Buy and Future Shop flyers. If any of you are interested in the Iriver 1 gig portable mp3 player (IFP-799T), Future Shop is advertising it for $250 regular price. No big deal. BUT Best Buy is advertising it for $330 less all kinds of rebates...final price $220. Soooo...walk into Future Shop and ask them to beat the $220 price tag.

I just bought the 512 meg version of this player and I am happy. One main thing I like is that it takes AA batteries, not AAA...it gives me up to 40 hours of play time. Nice.

red_red
Mar 11th, 2005, 08:37 AM
[QUOTE=to_vento]

Anyhow, I was taking a look through flyers last night, and noticed something a little funny in the Best Buy and Future Shop flyers. If any of you are interested in the Iriver 1 gig portable mp3 player (IFP-799T), Future Shop is advertising it for $250 regular price. No big deal. BUT Best Buy is advertising it for $330 less all kinds of rebates...final price $220. Soooo...walk into Future Shop and ask them to beat the $220 price tag.

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Hi, I am not able to see this 1 gig play on the bestbuy website... can you provide the link ??
thanks.

Nicotine
Mar 11th, 2005, 08:37 AM
A few links would be nice.....

tonylau
Mar 11th, 2005, 09:14 AM
Is that in store? Did not see any 1GB iriver 799T on the website!!!

xaveryptak
Mar 11th, 2005, 10:09 AM
It looks like this is B&M only deal. BB has the player on the last page of their flyer for $220 (330-80 price drop- 30 MIR), FS p20 $250.
after PM $217?
Staples online shows only 256MB player

ak47num1
Mar 11th, 2005, 10:48 AM
Welcome to RFD, to_vento! :)

kqc
Mar 11th, 2005, 01:52 PM
In Canada Computers it is $228 without MIR.
But of course, BB is a bigger company ... it's ur call

However, I've seen MPIO 1GB for almost the same price (not the mini one. FY400). The biggest selling point to me is that it can be used as a USB drive without carrying additional cables and no sacrifice on recording quality like IRiver. It also uses Philips chip. I am thinking maybe I should get a MPIO instead of IRiver...

what do u guys think?

jetgrind
Mar 11th, 2005, 03:31 PM
hm...u're pretty lucky to get that, i didn't know that rebates were pm'able

aku
Mar 11th, 2005, 03:52 PM
I'm gonna go pickup the 512mb from best buy today,I don't see the 1gb version @ bestbuy.ca but i'll check the price and see if its PMable with Fshop and then use the rebates.

BD006
Mar 11th, 2005, 05:07 PM
It's not on their website, as someone already said, so it's probably B&M. I saw it in the online flyer as well. It really has me intrigued now after all that talk about the 512mb last week. After all, I've wanted a 1gb flash player with all the bells and whistles for a while now... anyone else thinking about picking it up, or does anyone else have this already?

to_vento
Mar 11th, 2005, 09:54 PM
It definitely isn't the smallest player out there. If size is an absolute, then yeah, the player might not be for you. I didn't mind the size much, but I already have AA rechargables at home. That and the 40 hour play time (the batteries just last and last) were the big selling points. Keep in mind the smaller players tend to use AAA batt, and have something like 8 hour play time.

PPPP
Mar 12th, 2005, 04:25 AM
In Canada Computers it is $228 without MIR.
But of course, BB is a bigger company ... it's ur call

However, I've seen MPIO 1GB for almost the same price (not the mini one. FY400). The biggest selling point to me is that it can be used as a USB drive without carrying additional cables and no sacrifice on recording quality like IRiver. It also uses Philips chip. I am thinking maybe I should get a MPIO instead of IRiver...

what do u guys think?


where'd you get it? how much was it?

kqc
Mar 12th, 2005, 11:59 AM
where'd you get it? how much was it?
http://www.canadacomputers.com/mp3players.html#fla

iRiVER iFP-799T 1GB w/ FM Tuner & Recorder $228
MPIO FY400 1GB MP3 Player w/ FM tuner, voice recorder $239

WiZZLa
Mar 12th, 2005, 02:17 PM
FS probably won't beat it because it's a rebate. They will lie & say "same company so we can't match them."

PPPP
Mar 12th, 2005, 03:49 PM
http://www.canadacomputers.com/mp3players.html#fla

iRiVER iFP-799T 1GB w/ FM Tuner & Recorder $228
MPIO FY400 1GB MP3 Player w/ FM tuner, voice recorder $239

damn if i had known, i would've gotten the MPIO instead of 512mb MuVo Nomad. I wanted one with USB plug-n-play. where's the USB Plug anyway? it says it doesn't need a USB cable but i don't see any plug sticking out.

kqc
Mar 12th, 2005, 08:31 PM
damn if i had known, i would've gotten the MPIO instead of 512mb MuVo Nomad. I wanted one with USB plug-n-play. where's the USB Plug anyway? it says it doesn't need a USB cable but i don't see any plug sticking out.

it's a retractable USB plug...

http://www.futureshop.ca/multimedia/products/regular/10050692.gif

http://www.mobilemag.com/reviews/mpio/battery.jpg

Talamasca
Mar 12th, 2005, 10:07 PM
I'm surprised none of you could find the link on the BB website. It's here (http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&dept=0&sku_id=0926INGFS10051001&catid=&newdeptid=20004)

It says "online only" which is odd as it's in the flyer on the last page. Unfortunately, it is sold out online.

kqc
Mar 12th, 2005, 11:31 PM
I'm surprised none of you could find the link on the BB website. It's here (http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&dept=0&sku_id=0926INGFS10051001&catid=&newdeptid=20004)

It says "online only" which is odd as it's in the flyer on the last page. Unfortunately, it is sold out online.
This link was not there yesterday... at least not there before 6pm yesterday, 'coz I searched... Today afternoon I searched again and this link all of sudden comes up.. but with quantity zero :(

RuffRida
Mar 13th, 2005, 12:15 AM
FS probably won't beat it because it's a rebate. They will lie & say "same company so we can't match them."

I picked up the 1GIG today. I got it for about 216 plus taxes. I price matched with BB. . . I am enjoying it so far. Is there any reason I should get something else instead of this player, base on the price i've payed?

nightwalker
Mar 13th, 2005, 08:53 AM
wouldnt you much rahter add like 43 bucks and get a ipod mini though...cause like....it's much trendier and has 3 more gigs

to_vento
Mar 13th, 2005, 09:35 AM
wouldnt you much rahter add like 43 bucks and get a ipod mini though...cause like....it's much trendier and has 3 more gigs

I dunno why everyone is so hooked on the Ipods. Yes, they are a trendy MP3 player, but they have their issues. Like low batt life, proprietary batt which technically you aren't supposed to be able to change yourself, poor randomization code for the shuffle play mode (which is why the ipod shuffle isn't THAT fantastic either). What do I mean by poor randomization? It isn't unheard of that the same song plays twice or three times in a row. Now, I am not saying the Iriver unit is the greatest, either, but I don't think the IPOD is worth the price one pays for it.

BD006
Mar 13th, 2005, 01:19 PM
wouldnt you much rahter add like 43 bucks and get a ipod mini though...cause like....it's much trendier and has 3 more gigs

Actually, this is exactly what I've been rattling my brain about.
iRiver $220 + taxes (and after rebate) at BB (or $228 at CC)
iPod mini $225 + taxes for the 2G 4GB after student discount.
But they both have their pros and cons, mini mainly being storage space, iRiver has better battery life, and I would actually prefer FM and voice recording (for lectures).
Plus, I hate that apple has left out the regular wall charger in the new minis. That was such a cheap way of reducing the price...

fordtaurus
Mar 13th, 2005, 01:26 PM
Actually, this is exactly what I've been rattling my brain about.
iRiver $220 + taxes (and after rebate) at BB (or $228 at CC)
iPod mini $225 + taxes for the 2G 4GB after student discount.
But they both have their pros and cons, mini mainly being storage space, iRiver has better battery life, and I would actually prefer FM and voice recording (for lectures).
Plus, I hate that apple has left out the regular wall charger in the new minis. That was such a cheap way of reducing the price...

Most important thing is iPod could be pooched anytime cause it's harddrive based.

WannaBeDealMaster
Mar 13th, 2005, 01:27 PM
Not bad.

But I've got a question.

How come at some Best Buy's they don't offer the 110% guarantee. I know they own Future Shop, and that's what they tell me.

So are other BB's more forgiving of that or what?

Riflem@n
Mar 13th, 2005, 02:11 PM
I dunno why everyone is so hooked on the Ipods. Yes, they are a trendy MP3 player, but they have their issues. Like low batt life, proprietary batt which technically you aren't supposed to be able to change yourself, poor randomization code for the shuffle play mode (which is why the ipod shuffle isn't THAT fantastic either). What do I mean by poor randomization? It isn't unheard of that the same song plays twice or three times in a row. Now, I am not saying the Iriver unit is the greatest, either, but I don't think the IPOD is worth the price one pays for it.

low batt life isn't really a problem anymore, the older generation iPods had that problem. You can easily change the battery if you wanted to.

Actually, this is exactly what I've been rattling my brain about.
iRiver $220 + taxes (and after rebate) at BB (or $228 at CC)
iPod mini $225 + taxes for the 2G 4GB after student discount.
But they both have their pros and cons, mini mainly being storage space, iRiver has better battery life, and I would actually prefer FM and voice recording (for lectures).
Plus, I hate that apple has left out the regular wall charger in the new minis. That was such a cheap way of reducing the price...

If I were you I would buy the mini, it's kinda hard to compare the two since they're two different types of players but look at the price/ gb ratio

220/1 gig iRiver = 220 dollars/gig

225/4 gig iPod mini = 56.25 dollars/ gig

kinda of a weak comparison, but for that price you might as well get something that is the best value for your money. If you're the kinda guy that leaves the computer on all the time, USB charging shouldn't be a problem for you. A lot of people have reported that the mini actually lasts something like 26 hours because of the new efficient hardware. If you wanna be cool, buy an iPod :lol:

WiZZLa
Mar 13th, 2005, 03:46 PM
Not bad.

But I've got a question.

How come at some Best Buy's they don't offer the 110% guarantee. I know they own Future Shop, and that's what they tell me.

So are other BB's more forgiving of that or what?

They should. If a sales person doesn't want to PB, complain to a manager. If that doesn't work, call the 800# & complain; I guarantee you they will PB & give you back something for your trouble.


kinda of a weak comparison, but for that price you might as well get something that is the best value for your money.

Apples & oranges. 1 is flash based, the other is hard drive based. Obviously the flash one will cost more. You might as well compare a mini to a 60gb iPod Photo because it's less than $9.50/gb.

Slimfast
Mar 13th, 2005, 06:25 PM
can ipod be used as a usb drive?

Riflem@n
Mar 13th, 2005, 07:14 PM
Apples & oranges. 1 is flash based, the other is hard drive based. Obviously the flash one will cost more. You might as well compare a mini to a 60gb iPod Photo because it's less than $9.50/gb.

Well aren't apples and oranges fruits? In this case they're both mp3 players, they do basicially the same thing.

Like I said it's a weak comparison, but if I were you I would still get the 4 gig mini. Otherwise if you'll be using the player for the gym, then go with flash based.

WiZZLa
Mar 13th, 2005, 08:02 PM
can ipod be used as a usb drive?

Yes.

Well aren't apples and oranges fruits? In this case they're both mp3 players, they do basicially the same thing.

Yes they are, but you won't find many people that substitute oranges in their apple pie or apple sauce or candied apples & say "they are both fruits, so basically the same thing." I'd actually like to see a restaurant use apples for duck a l'orange, cod with orange sauce, snapper boca chica, etc and see how the critics love it.

I wonder why my laptop costed more than my desktop? They are both computers, they do basicially the same thing. :rolleyes:

Riflem@n
Mar 13th, 2005, 08:18 PM
Like I said, the mini will give you more value for your hard earned money.

I understand you don't like the iPods but that's your opinion.

Evil Techie
Mar 13th, 2005, 08:30 PM
Like I said, the mini will give you more value for your hard earned money.

I understand you don't like the iPods but that's your opinion.

1. moving parts arent as reliable as flash based memory
microdrives arent as completely shockproof while flash memory is almost completely shockproof

2. microdrives uses up more battery, iriver's battery life is crazy long and uses AAs which you can replace easily
ipod mini's batteries are costly to replace

3. ipod mini is still buggy and not well designed with soft aluminum shell that can create sound distortions

4. iriver's sound quality is superior than Apple's

5. iriver has UMS (universal mass storage) firmware which lets winxp sees it as an UMS device and allows you to drag and drop any files via windows explorer

6. get your facts straight

its like comparing a mini van with an Audi S4

mp3 players isnt all about friggin storage space
are you one of those people that thinks that a 5MP samsung digital camera is better than a 3MP Canon SD200?

LMAO

MethodMan
Mar 13th, 2005, 09:03 PM
low batt life isn't really a problem anymore, the older generation iPods had that problem. You can easily change the battery if you wanted to.


If I were you I would buy the mini, it's kinda hard to compare the two since they're two different types of players but look at the price/ gb ratio

220/1 gig iRiver = 220 dollars/gig

225/4 gig iPod mini = 56.25 dollars/ gig

kinda of a weak comparison, but for that price you might as well get something that is the best value for your money. If you're the kinda guy that leaves the computer on all the time, USB charging shouldn't be a problem for you. A lot of people have reported that the mini actually lasts something like 26 hours because of the new efficient hardware. If you wanna be cool, buy an iPod :lol:

I'd take an iriver flash player over the mini anyday. Honestly dude, know what your talking about before you express an opinion.

MM

Riflem@n
Mar 13th, 2005, 10:19 PM
I'd take an iriver flash player over the mini anyday. Honestly dude, know what your talking about before you express an opinion.

MM

I thought an opinion was how people view things? so why am I being bashing for expressing an opinion? I do know what I'm talking about, you can read this review here.

http://www.ipodlounge.com/reviews_more.php?id=6524_0_6_0_C

They did the exact comparison, so I guess I'm not the only one that doesn't know what they're talking about.

1. moving parts arent as reliable as flash based memory
microdrives arent as completely shockproof while flash memory is almost completely shockproof

2. microdrives uses up more battery, iriver's battery life is crazy long and uses AAs which you can replace easily
ipod mini's batteries are costly to replace

3. ipod mini is still buggy and not well designed with soft aluminum shell that can create sound distortions

4. iriver's sound quality is superior than Apple's

5. iriver has UMS (universal mass storage) firmware which lets winxp sees it as an UMS device and allows you to drag and drop any files via windows explorer

6. get your facts straight

its like comparing a mini van with an Audi S4

mp3 players isnt all about friggin storage space
are you one of those people that thinks that a 5MP samsung digital camera is better than a 3MP Canon SD200?

LMAO

get my facts straight? I don't think I've said anything wrong.

I agree with some of what you've said above but you just compared the two devices so aren't you just contradicting yourself? If you're saying the mini is the Audi S4 then I agree completely.

I don't know where you got number 3 from, can you at least prove that?

sure mp3 players aren't all about storage, but for about the same price, wouldn't you want the bigger capacity one? so you can store more songs?

WiZZLa
Mar 13th, 2005, 10:44 PM
Like I said, the mini will give you more value for your hard earned money.

I understand you don't like the iPods but that's your opinion.

It has nothing to do with my distaste (and rightfully so) of iPods, as if 2 other brands were used, neither being an iPod, I'd have the same opinion on comparing prices per gigabyte of a flash based mp3 player vs a hard drive based mp3 player. Like I said, the iPod Photo 60gb will give even MORE value for money if that's what we are basing it on.

edit: I'm in no way promoting the iPod Photo over anything else. I'm merely using it as an example.

kqc
Mar 14th, 2005, 07:47 PM
now Bestbuy.ca has 19 IRiver 1GB in stock...

Alexo
Mar 20th, 2005, 10:01 AM
How do the Creative Muvo TX FM compare to the MPIO FY400?

Are there other good MP3 players out there that can be used as a USB key as well?

cf18
Mar 20th, 2005, 11:11 AM
3. ipod mini is still buggy and not well designed with soft aluminum shell that can create sound distortions

LMAO

LMAO indeed. Sound distortions from the shell? You know I really hate people who make things up just because something is popular.

If I am picking a long battery life flash player I would pick the Samsong YP-MT6X or YP-MT6Z instead:
http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&dept=19&sku_id=0665000FS10056790&catid=10205&newdeptid=19

Also use AA for 40+hrs battery, but smaller than iRiver in all 3 dimensions.

aku
Mar 20th, 2005, 11:53 AM
I have the 512 iriver and the 4gb ipod mini which I picked up from chapters.. I prefer the iriver, but thats just me

cf18
Mar 20th, 2005, 01:12 PM
I have the 512 iriver and the 4gb ipod mini which I picked up from chapters.. I prefer the iriver, but thats just me

Can you explain that preference? I am buying a MP3 player and the mini is currently my top pick, but would love to read some real reason against buying that thief magnet.

Riflem@n
Mar 20th, 2005, 01:57 PM
Can you explain that preference? I am buying a MP3 player and the mini is currently my top pick, but would love to read some real reason against buying that thief magnet.

There isn't, the iPod mini is awesome.

CSR
Mar 20th, 2005, 02:06 PM
low batt life isn't really a problem anymore, the older generation iPods had that problem. You can easily change the battery if you wanted to.



If I were you I would buy the mini, it's kinda hard to compare the two since they're two different types of players but look at the price/ gb ratio

220/1 gig iRiver = 220 dollars/gig

225/4 gig iPod mini = 56.25 dollars/ gig

kinda of a weak comparison, but for that price you might as well get something that is the best value for your money. If you're the kinda guy that leaves the computer on all the time, USB charging shouldn't be a problem for you. A lot of people have reported that the mini actually lasts something like 26 hours because of the new efficient hardware. If you wanna be cool, buy an iPod :lol:

I love how apple fanboys think its so cool to own an ipod.

Riflem@n
Mar 20th, 2005, 02:25 PM
I love how apple fanboys think its so cool to own an ipod.

take it easy, I just was kidding about being cool and getting iPod. But I have to say the aluminum finish and the scroll wheel is extremely sexy.

It's 220 for the 1 gig iRiver and 225 for the 4 gig iPod mini, you can get it for 205 if you do a group buy and use the 40 off coupon.

I'll let you decide what you wanna get, but my choice is the iPod which I already own and am using.

CSR
Mar 20th, 2005, 02:30 PM
take it easy, I just was kidding about being cool and getting iPod. But I have to say the aluminum finish and the scroll wheel is extremely sexy.

It's 220 for the 1 gig iRiver and 225 for the 4 gig iPod mini, you can get it for 205 if you do a group buy and use the 40 off coupon.

I'll let you decide what you wanna get, but my choice is the iPod which I already own and am using.

Some people actually buy becuz it's "cool" ....

Sony stuff looks cool too, too bad they break down so easily...

Riflem@n
Mar 20th, 2005, 02:33 PM
Some people actually buy becuz it's "cool" ....

Sony stuff looks cool too, too bad they break down so easily...

yeah I know what you mean, I've heard that some people only had 20 songs on it, what a waste :(

I'm not much of a fanboy, this is the first apple product I've owned.

How are sony's products easily breakable?

CSR
Mar 20th, 2005, 02:40 PM
yeah I know what you mean, I've heard that some people only had 20 songs on it, what a waste :(

I'm not much of a fanboy, this is the first apple product I've owned.

How are sony's products easily breakable?

just google

"
mzn1+blankdisc"

CSR
Mar 20th, 2005, 02:40 PM
yeah I know what you mean, I've heard that some people only had 20 songs on it, what a waste :(

I'm not much of a fanboy, this is the first apple product I've owned.

How are sony's products easily breakable?

just google

"mzn1+blankdisc"
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=mzn1%2Bblankdisc&btnG=Search&meta=

btw, did u still want that fido card.. PM me

Riflem@n
Mar 20th, 2005, 03:55 PM
Btw look into the sony ones

512 for 119.99

1 gig for 179.99

using the 20 off 50 coupon from sonystyle.ca

Alexo
Mar 20th, 2005, 07:27 PM
If I am picking a long battery life flash player I would pick the Samsong YP-MT6X or YP-MT6Z instead
Can they be used as a USB key or do they need a USB cable?

cf18
Mar 20th, 2005, 08:31 PM
Can they be used as a USB key or do they need a USB cable?

No it needs cable, like iRiver.

As for the new Sony players, they have excellent battery life and looks OK from the front, but before ordering let's see why they are 2cm thick:
http://www.sonystyle.ca/common/images/slideshow/NWE105S_fl_2.jpg

Riflem@n
Mar 20th, 2005, 08:38 PM
you really need to goto the store and see it, sometimes measurements mean nothing.

Alexo
Mar 20th, 2005, 08:57 PM
No it needs cable, like iRiver.Frell!

Does it mean that the only remaining option is the MPIO FY-400?
(The Muvo TX FM has short battery life)

RuffRida
Mar 20th, 2005, 10:20 PM
I've had the iriver 1gig for a week now, and it's awesome. I currently have 220 songs on it and the battery lasted me the entire week. about 34 hrs. of play. the only thing i don't like about it is the program that it comes with seem to freeze abit when loading files. Not sure if i'm doing something wrong, maybe you guys know how to fix this.